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Title: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Daydreamer on May 17, 2005, 06:37:25 AM
So they announced their game schedule in their press confrence (some liberty taken by me to narrow it down):

FF:Advent Children - September
Dragon Quest VIII - November
Kingdom Hearts - Spring 06
FFXII - Fall 06

For those not up to speed on SE bullshit this is the EXACT same schedule give last E3, only +9 months, which was in turn the same exact schedule shown at the preceeding Tokyo Game Show, only +6 months or so.  If you are going to take the time to spit and polish your games (Good) then STOP IT with the wildly optimistic dates (Bad).  And while you are at it, could you replace a badly hackneyed cliche or two with moderately original content?  I mean, topling the evil empire to discover the TRUE evil which somehow assaults gaia/spirits/other post-modern hippy bullshit STOPPED being fun before the name Monica became synonymous with blow job.

Now sho while I drool over wildly optimistic imaginary scenarios for how Mistwalker's two Xbox 360 RPGs will rock hard despite all common sense.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Yegolev on May 17, 2005, 10:12:52 AM
Dragon Quest VIII - November

Pigfuckers.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 17, 2005, 04:47:55 PM
No-motherfucking-vember? Sigh. Fuckcocklesdickdouchebag.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: voodoolily on May 17, 2005, 05:23:30 PM
Ha, ha, ha. Now you all can know how I feel having to wait for Twilight Princess (I know, the name is ghey). It's still being listed as Gates of the Realm in Japan, so I'm not sure why the disparity between names.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 17, 2005, 05:28:56 PM
Ha, ha, ha. Now you all can know how I feel having to wait for Twilight Princess (I know, the name is ghey). It's still being listed as Gates of the Realm in Japan, so I'm not sure why the disparity between names.

We knew how you felt in the mid-90s when Final Fantasy II kept getting delayed. This isn't a new thing for fans of Square. They are true douchebags.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Jain Zar on May 17, 2005, 07:27:50 PM
Think on the positive side.  The Japanese gamers paid 70-90 bucks for the newest Dragpm Warrior game.  We won't!


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 17, 2005, 07:40:07 PM
Btw. They're remaking FFVII. At least according to the EXACT trailer they had on the PS version (new on gametrailers). So uhm. I want it. Now. I want to remember when Square made good games and I wasn't looking forward to Dragon Warrior.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Daydreamer on May 18, 2005, 02:21:52 AM
Sorry to burst your bubble schild, but no they arn't.  The president of SE said at the end of the press conference that it was only a tech demo they made, using simplified versions of the FF7 Advent Children models, for internal use/planning and that Sony convinced them to let them show it with the PS3.  Sony gets a high-profile IP with amazing gfx to sell the PS3 with, and SE gets free Advent Children promotion - win win.

And speaking of SE delays, none rubbed me quite as raw as the year and a half between Chrono Cross' announcement (e3 99 I belive), its initial due date (Fall 99), and when it was released (Fall 00).  And the fact that it wasn't just CT in 3d also stung.

Now why don't they announce Chrono Break damn it!


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Margalis on May 18, 2005, 03:02:40 AM
The real question here is WTF is going on with FF12? Another year until it's out? Something bad must be happening. I know the director of that game is pretty unhappy. (He is the guy who made Ogre Battle and Tactics Ogre then came over to Square and made Vagrant Story and is largely considered the best director they have working there) They keep talking about throwing him a bone and buying the rights to the Ogre Battle series and making one similar to Final Fantasy Tactics, at this point he might just be mailing it in.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Trippy on May 18, 2005, 03:23:40 AM
The real question here is WTF is going on with FF12? Another year until it's out? Something bad must be happening. I know the director of that game is pretty unhappy. (He is the guy who made Ogre Battle and Tactics Ogre then came over to Square and made Vagrant Story and is largely considered the best director they have working there) They keep talking about throwing him a bone and buying the rights to the Ogre Battle series and making one similar to Final Fantasy Tactics, at this point he might just be mailing it in.
Yeah FF XII was originally supposed to be released March 2004 in Japan and the latest I had heard for it pre-E3 was Spring 2006 so this is yet another delay.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Triforcer on May 18, 2005, 08:01:51 AM
Call me when they make a sequel to Final Fantasy III.  Terra could convey more angst with two pixels of motion than all the shitty characters in all the FF games made after that combined.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Yegolev on May 18, 2005, 08:27:18 AM
Ha, ha, ha. Now you all can know how I feel having to wait for Twilight Princess (I know, the name is ghey).

That's the new Zelda, right?  I'm somewhat overloaded with information this week.  I think I prefered Legend of Zelda: Working Title, but whatever.  As long as it doesn't give me nightmares like Majora's Mask.  Whenever I think about how long I have to wait for the next Zelda, I have to slam my fingers in my laptop.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Aenovae on May 18, 2005, 06:02:25 PM
FFXII was a no-show today :(

Radiata Stories and Romancing SaGa are just standard PS2 RPGs, which is fine.  Looks like they're actually on schedule too.

Code Age looks very cool, and very unique.  It's very action-y and may not even be an RPG.

Fullmetal Alchemist 2 is total shit.  It has the some of the shittiest controls, attacks, combat, locomotion, and gameplay of any game I have ever played.  The poor designers working on this game (are there any?) need to be put out of their misery.

There was a huge section dedicated to FFXI, as if anyone cared anymore.

I didn't get a ticket to see whatever they where showing behind closed doors, but I'm pretty sure it was just trailer movies.

Did I mention there was no FFXII? :~(  I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume that Square Enix was driving down the road to Craptown (possibly because of the new realtime combat?), and some intelligent manager decided to hit the brakes.  The next time we see FFXII, it may be a very different game (gameplay-wise) that what we saw at last year's E3.  Metrosexual main character, hot female lead, and bunny women will, of course, remain intact.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Yegolev on May 19, 2005, 10:19:30 AM
Call me when they make a sequel to Final Fantasy III.  Terra could convey more angst with two pixels of motion than all the shitty characters in all the FF games made after that combined.

Since I am forced to assume that FFXII is heading back to the drawing board, probably to have any sort of Vagrant-Story-ness removed, the cure for both of us might be to get the PS1 FFVI (instead of US-FFIII).  Actually I think I have that laying around somewhere since I like to get completely drunk and wander into EB.  The PS1 re-release of FFVI is the full JP version, I think... or maybe I'm thinking of FFIV (US-FFII) which was chopped to hell for the US release.  Personally, my favorite is #4.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 19, 2005, 10:40:52 AM
Cecil > Locke, yes.

But Lock was a Treasure Hunter. And Final Fantasy VI/III was also the best looking game on the SNES in addition to being easily in the top 10 role playing games of all time. That's quite the achievement.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Strazos on May 19, 2005, 10:42:26 AM
I hated the Ending to US FFIII, and refused to touch the game again.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Trippy on May 19, 2005, 11:08:47 AM
The real question here is WTF is going on with FF12? Another year until it's out? Something bad must be happening. I know the director of that game is pretty unhappy. (He is the guy who made Ogre Battle and Tactics Ogre then came over to Square and made Vagrant Story and is largely considered the best director they have working there) They keep talking about throwing him a bone and buying the rights to the Ogre Battle series and making one similar to Final Fantasy Tactics, at this point he might just be mailing it in.
Yeah FF XII was originally supposed to be released March 2004 in Japan and the latest I had heard for it pre-E3 was Spring 2006 so this is yet another delay.
I read somewhere yesterday that Square-Enix announced that FF XII is still on track for release in Japan by March 2006 (end of their fiscal year) so that Fall 2006 date must be for the outside-Japan release. I had to reboot my machine yesterday to downgrade my video drivers so I lost the URL to that reference but I'll try to dig it up later today.

Edit: Here's the press release (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050517/lam161.html?.v=1) I was referring to above.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 19, 2005, 11:09:31 AM
Sigh. Seriously. XII was the first one i was looking forward to since VII.

RAGE.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 11:29:16 AM
You can still pick up a JPN PS2 for about two hundy, if it's that important to you. Then you can also play all the fucked up dating/princess RPGs.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 19, 2005, 11:30:28 AM
You can still pick up a JPN PS2 for about two hundy, if it's that important to you. Then you can also play all the fucked up dating/princess RPGs.

two hundy?

YOUR SLANG MUST DIE.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 11:31:38 AM
Ninja please. It's just an east-side/west-side thang.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: HaemishM on May 19, 2005, 11:32:22 AM
DON'T BE HAT-IN'!


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 19, 2005, 11:32:31 AM
Ninja please. It's just an east-side/west-side thang.

I live 200 miles north of you and I think it is annoying too.  :evil:


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 19, 2005, 11:32:49 AM
But the west side sounds retarded.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Shockeye on May 19, 2005, 11:32:52 AM
Ninja please. It's just an east-side/west-side thang.

It's a speak and type proper english thing.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 11:36:08 AM
Whatevs. You just wait and see. You'll be bitin' off my flavor. The abbreviations thing (we call it "abbreves") has already gone east coast.

As far as speaking and typing proper English goes: those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, eh Shockeye?


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 19, 2005, 02:07:03 PM
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The abbreviations thing (we call it "abbreves") has already gone east coast.

Looks like I have a long day of killing ahead of me.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 02:08:52 PM
What, like Biggie and Tu Pac?

Schild, who the fuck is my avatar?


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Shockeye on May 19, 2005, 02:10:01 PM
What, like Biggie and Tu Pac?

Schild, who the fuck is my avatar?

It's your punishment.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 02:10:54 PM
For what? Why did you guys lock my profile? I've never been able to change my avatar anyway, so why the hate?


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 19, 2005, 02:13:22 PM
For what? Why did you guys lock my profile? I've never been able to change my avatar anyway, so why the hate?

Why the slang?


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Shockeye on May 19, 2005, 02:15:58 PM
For what? Why did you guys lock my profile? I've never been able to change my avatar anyway, so why the hate?

Be happy it wasn't Don LaPre.

(http://www.throwback-jerseys-junction.com/lapre-photo.JPG)


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 02:16:37 PM
Cuz I don't know what the hell rofl and roflcopter mean.

You should just open your heart to my slang. Let me have my profile back, you big bullies!

You guys are mean. :cry: Look, you made me cry.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: stray on May 19, 2005, 02:23:01 PM
You guys are mean. :cry: Look, you made me cry.

The correct way to say that is: Homie don't play dat!  :x

Anyways.....Wtf?


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Shockeye on May 19, 2005, 02:24:00 PM
You guys are mean. :cry: Look, you made me cry.

Your new avatar makes me cry.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: stray on May 19, 2005, 02:25:39 PM
You guys are mean. :cry: Look, you made me cry.

Your new avatar makes me cry.

And...who is it???


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 02:30:39 PM
I still can't change my avatar. This has been a difficulty from the get-go. Can regular douchebags not upload photos? I have a really funny one that's not offensive.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: stray on May 19, 2005, 02:32:32 PM
It says you're a Crotchpheasant, not a Douchebag.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 19, 2005, 02:33:53 PM
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Can regular douchebags not upload photos?

Is there anything NOT funny about that sentence? I <3 RDW. It should be a National Holiday.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 19, 2005, 02:34:27 PM
Voodoo, the avatar and title are because of your slang. It's called a punishment. But since we can't really punish people here without removing them (which we aren't doing to you), we go for the irreverant. You can't change your avatar because we don't want you to.

I can NOT believe i just had to explain that. :cry:


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Shockeye on May 19, 2005, 02:36:00 PM
On a lighter note...


I give you more Serek Dmart.

(http://www.dereksmart.com/pics/08-07-03/slides/dsmart_e3_02.jpg)


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 19, 2005, 02:37:59 PM
die.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Shockeye on May 19, 2005, 02:39:37 PM
die.

It's in green, so I know you don't really mean it.



Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 02:39:59 PM
You've all been so tolerant thus far, that I didn't think it was an issue. But y'know, now I know how to jab you in the ribs!  :lol:

(http://www.roflcopter.com/roflcopter.gif)


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 19, 2005, 02:46:56 PM
(http://www.f13.net/schild/smartshockeye.jpg)


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Yegolev on May 19, 2005, 02:57:54 PM
Oh, dear God.  It says it's a Serek Dmart Simulation.  I suppose a simulated Derek is not as bad as the real thing, but I still don't want to buy something like that.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 19, 2005, 02:59:09 PM
That picture is from 2002 or something. His next game won't be out until the four horseman roam the earth. Or so the old book says...


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Yegolev on May 19, 2005, 03:06:49 PM
That picture is from 2002 or something. His next game won't be out until the four horseman roam the earth. Or so the old book says...

Ah!  Whew!  Good.  Still unwilling to hire a programming team, I guess.  You know, with his millions, or doctoral degree, or sexual heat.

Bad Shockeye!


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Shockeye on May 19, 2005, 03:28:51 PM
That picture is from 2002 or something. His next game won't be out until the four horseman roam the earth. Or so the old book says...

It's from E3 2003.

I can't find anything recent of him.

I hope there's some sightings of him at E3 this year. I'd hate to think he's hiding or avoiding the spotlight.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Strazos on May 19, 2005, 04:28:39 PM
I hope there's some sightings of him at E3 this year. I'd hate to think he's hiding or avoiding the spotlight.

who in the name of Fuck would let him in?


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on May 19, 2005, 06:24:04 PM
I hope there's some sightings of him at E3 this year. I'd hate to think he's hiding or avoiding the spotlight.

who in the name of Fuck would let him in?

The same people who let another handful of guys from some other place in.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: HaemishM on May 20, 2005, 10:33:32 AM
Shit, they are willing to give us PRESS PASSES if we pay. PRESS. As in JOURNALISM.

You think they have entry standards?


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on June 23, 2005, 11:16:20 AM
Just read this month's EGM - They're reporting (in their rumor mill) that there is an updated Final Fantasy VII in the works.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: ahoythematey on June 23, 2005, 11:29:25 AM
I can bet you money the only reason they are saying it is because of that PS3 video of FFVII recreated in realtime, which means it falls in line with EGM's typical run-of-the-mill bullshit.

Still, remake or true sequel to FFVII would sell a console to me, unless they fuck it up gargantuan style like FFX-2.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: schild on June 23, 2005, 11:30:53 AM
Well, if all they did was redo all the graphics, that's a console launcher. It's an entire generation of gamers that were too young to play it the first time around.

Also - every product Square has put out since VII hasn't been 50% of 4, 6, or 7. They've all just been assy. They need a refresher course.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: ahoythematey on June 23, 2005, 11:38:31 AM
I really liked 8 and 9, and haven't played 4 past that first cave though(meh), so I guess my opinions are skewed.  I still haven't beat the final boss in X, though, and refuse to purchase and play X-2.  I'm waiting for XII with bated breathe, since it essentially is being created by the Final Fantasy Tactics team, a series for which I have an unnatural love.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Velorath on June 23, 2005, 08:23:48 PM
Well, if all they did was redo all the graphics, that's a console launcher. It's an entire generation of gamers that were too young to play it the first time around.

Then you can expect Sephiroth to be come the next Legolas of MMO character names.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Murgos on June 24, 2005, 07:09:29 AM
I've seen many Sephiroths and varitations already.


Title: Re: Square-Enix: Slower than a geriatric slug on a salted snowed in street
Post by: Velorath on June 24, 2005, 05:50:44 PM
I've seen many Sephiroths and varitations already.

Right now I see them mostly as names on message boards along with Dragonball Z names (every time I see a screen name that starts with ssj it sends me into a Haemish-style Rage).