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Title: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on July 15, 2019, 07:41:26 AM
SEC Media Days kicks off today, which ushers in the beginning of the College Football season for most of us here down south. For those of you that care, this is the time of year where I enjoy Saturdays more than most, and I also love making a few timely wagers. Last year I brought home enough to subsidize a nice February cruise, making it my best gambling year ever.

Here's what we know:

Clemson still has Trevor Lawrence, who would likely have gone first round in the NFL last year if he were allowed to leave, but he's stuck for another 2 years and so are we as opposing fans of Clemson.

Bama is still Bama, and if you're an SEC team all road go through them.

Ohio State looks to recover from a frankly embarrassing ass-kicking in 2018 by Purdue that cost them a title shot. Although they should have lost to Maryland and Penn State as well, yet held on. They'll try to do that with UGA Transfer QB, Justin Fields, who is a problem child I don't think they fully understand yet, but as a UGA fan I'm silently laughing at what's coming since Justin can run, but he sure as hell can't throw the ball well or read a defense.

Georgia is primed to take on the East with ease, a half of the conference which frankly looks like dogshit compare to the other half. If they trip up and lose to Florida, that's the only really tough game on that half of the schedule.. Tennessee is still floundering, Kentucky is decent but will never be a real contender, South Carolina has and always will suck, Vandy's gonna vandy, and nobody takes Mizzou seriously since they screwed up and accused the entire system of civil rights violations that never actually happened.

Will the Pac-12 get off its ass and put a team into the playoff? Magic Eight Ball says all signs point to no, unless Washington can pull off an undefeated season.

Will anybody in the ACC take down Clemson? No, it's hilariously thin. The next best team to Clemson in Vegas odds is Miami at 100-1, and they changed head coaches. It's nobody. The ACC outside of Clemson is such hot garbage it should be called Clemson and friends.

Will Michigan actually get off its ass and beat Ohio State? MAYBE, and if Harbaugh was ever going to do it, now's the time. I don't expect Ohio State to be strong as they figure out their QB issues, and I also don't expect Michigan to tolerate a coach who hasn't ever beaten Ohio State keeping his job much longer.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on July 15, 2019, 10:28:46 AM
This will hopefully be the year of the surprise teams in every conference. Come on Vandy, Virginia, Iowa, Cal.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on July 15, 2019, 10:47:01 PM
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Will the Pac-12 get off its ass and put a team into the playoff? Magic Eight Ball says all signs point to no, unless Washington can pull off an undefeated season.

Utah is a sleeper team this year. Has a lot of talent coming back and may finally have an OC that can use it.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on July 16, 2019, 06:11:20 AM
If you like Utah, might be a good idea to toss $100 on it because I'm seeing 17/1 on them winning the conference. Great odds.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Chimpy on July 16, 2019, 03:16:26 PM
If you like Utah, might be a good idea to toss $100 on it because I'm seeing 17/1 on them winning the conference. Great odds.

"Like Utah" might be a bit under-representing just how much of a fan of the Utes Ab is.  :why_so_serious:

Wondering if Lovie Smith will keep his "$1million+ salary per win" record this season, or if his team will force him to take a per-game paycut.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on July 16, 2019, 08:36:08 PM
If you like Utah, might be a good idea to toss $100 on it because I'm seeing 17/1 on them winning the conference. Great odds.

Where are you seeing that? I've seen them 10-1 to be in the playoffs.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on July 17, 2019, 06:33:13 AM
If you like Utah, might be a good idea to toss $100 on it because I'm seeing 17/1 on them winning the conference. Great odds.

Where are you seeing that? I've seen them 10-1 to be in the playoffs.

You're right, I had found a 2018 list. It's 5-1 to win the conference this year, my bad.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on July 17, 2019, 06:33:55 AM
If you like Utah, might be a good idea to toss $100 on it because I'm seeing 17/1 on them winning the conference. Great odds.

"Like Utah" might be a bit under-representing just how much of a fan of the Utes Ab is.  :why_so_serious:

Wondering if Lovie Smith will keep his "$1million+ salary per win" record this season, or if his team will force him to take a per-game paycut.

When I said "like Utah" I mean to bet them  :why_so_serious: I know he's as much a Utes fan as I am a Dawgs fan.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Draegan on July 18, 2019, 01:39:28 PM
Here's to Rutgers winning 1 Big 10 game this year!


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: WayAbvPar on July 20, 2019, 11:47:06 AM
UW has a new QB who should be more effective than the noodle arm they had last year. They lost some big names of D, but that hasn't seemed to matter in the past few years. Offensive line , TE and RB should be very good. They should be in the running for the conference title, and an outside shot at the playoffs if things break right.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on July 22, 2019, 12:00:18 AM
I wish Peterson didn't have Wittingham's peter in his pocket.

My only consolation is that the championship game last year turned on a fluky bounce so if one breaks the Utes way this year who knows.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on July 24, 2019, 07:53:05 AM
I forgot that two of you are going to have transfer QBs from my school playing for your teams this year  :why_so_serious:

Here's my impressions of both:

Jacob Eason - Kid has a cannon for an arm, but his footwork was terrible and he never seemed to be able to do well on the touch passes. His accuracy as a UGA QB was laughable 55%, and that was in a system where he was only being asked to throw about 28 times a game. Jake Browning was statistically better than him in his freshman year by far, but doesn't have the size or the raw arm talent. The knock on Eason was that he fell in love with the life of being an SEC quarterback, and didn't want to put in the work it required. He's very similar to Stafford in that regard, except Stafford was WAY more talented than Eason ever was. If Eason can fix his work ethic, his footwork, and get some time to set and throw the ball down the field? He'll be a great asset. If he's still a lazy shithead, you're going to be massively disappointed as you watch him overthrow receivers like crazy since he has no touch game.

Justin Fields - Again, the knock on Fields is that he's a shithead from a family of shitheads who believe he's the second coming. His parents were such a pain in the ass about his playing time that Kirby Smart eventually gave them the finger and stopped playing the kid entirely, hoping he would just transfer. At one point there's a video of Fields grumping his way off the field saying essentially, "He didn't do shit but hand off." Nobody knows enough about Fields arm to tell if you if he can hold up in the pocket and actually throw the ball around accurately because the Georgia staff never trusted him enough to do it consistently. Athletically he's enormous listed at 6'3" 225, but looks bigger, and he can run with the best of him. I said he looks like a slightly smaller Cam Newton when I saw him up close. That's where his skills lie, so if Ohio State puts him in a dual-threat RPO setup? He'll thrive. I have no idea what they are doing though at Ohio State now offensively, so I'm in wait and see mode.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: WayAbvPar on July 24, 2019, 09:26:26 PM
I wish Peterson didn't have Wittingham's peter in his pocket.

My only consolation is that the championship game last year turned on a fluky bounce so if one breaks the Utes way this year who knows.

That was one of the strangest football games I have ever watched.

After watching Jake Browning under-throw every deep ball for 4 years, I am looking forward to Eason's arm at least. He has a shitton of talent around him on the offense (his WR are green, but every other spot is stacked), so hopefully he gets inspired to give a shit.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on August 07, 2019, 08:19:38 AM
I've been in a college football pick'em pool for about 10 years now, and we're doing it again this year. It's 50-60 people usually. $110 entry, prizes paid weekly and the top 3 on the season get the big money. You pick 35 games a week against the spread. It will really test your skills as a college football fan when you have to pick Alabama -42.5 against the Citadel.

If anybody is interested I'll post the link here so you can sign up.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on August 07, 2019, 11:33:56 AM
I'm just hoping this season an LSU quarterback throws a game or two over 300y. Of course if that happens then everyone will know the end of the world is truly upon us.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on September 03, 2019, 06:13:48 AM
Rocky Top, you'll always be...
An Orange joke to me.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on September 03, 2019, 03:02:25 PM
Rocky Top, you'll always be...
An Orange joke to me.

If you are going to lose, lose early.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on September 04, 2019, 06:32:46 AM
To be fair, I have a Masters from Georgia State, so I'm threatening to actually find that diploma I never hung and put it up in the office now.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on September 04, 2019, 08:32:48 AM
I'd point and laugh, but losing to Troy still hurts.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 04, 2019, 06:40:02 PM
Eason kid is legit. He threw a 50 yard TD pass that was a thing of beauty....hit the guy in stride right in the numbers. One of the best deep balls I have seen in recent memory.

This week we will find out a lot more about him. Cal's defense is really fucking good.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on September 04, 2019, 11:16:20 PM
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Cal's defense is really fucking good.

I know a better one.  :grin:

Utes beat BYU for the 9th straight time.  It's getting almost boring at this point. We also ran the most vanilla shit imaginable.

Rain delay with 9 minutes left in the game with Utah having the ball on their own 10. BYU never saw the ball again. Kneel down on their 3 yard line. 


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on September 06, 2019, 06:30:16 AM
Utes are good. They'll still have issues with Washington and Oregon, I think.

The PAC-12 is stronger than in recent memory, and I think the committee has Big 12 fatigue with OU. If Oklahoma stumbles at all in a 1-loss race between conferences I think the Pac-12 will finally get the nod.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on September 07, 2019, 11:53:12 PM
Would only play Oregon in the conference championship game as we skip them regular season this year. 

Can't believe Tennessee managed to fuck up a 3 point lead against BYU with them on their own 20, with no timeouts, and 18 seconds.  Like, you almost need to TRY to give up a 64 yard play in that situation.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on September 08, 2019, 03:55:58 AM
I'm just hoping this season an LSU quarterback throws a game or two over 300y. Of course if that happens then everyone will know the end of the world is truly upon us.

The end is nigh.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Chimpy on September 10, 2019, 03:33:26 PM
Illinois won their first road non-conference game in the Lovie Smith era this weekend at UConn.

He might actually earn his fucking giant paycheck finally.

Who am I kidding? They will go 0-everything in the Big10+4


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Rasix on September 17, 2019, 02:01:52 PM
Arizona possibly played its best football game since we had Gronkowski trucking guys as a freshman. We'll still be garbage, but we're going to very likely ruin a few PAC12 team's chances at a good season this year. Team actually has an offense that isn't all dink and dunk passes and gives our defense chances to not be dead tired by the second quarter. Tate might even make a decent pro.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on September 18, 2019, 08:22:39 AM
Georgia plays Notre Dame this weekend, and tickets were going for about $500+ for terrible seats.

We're 14 point favorites, and I have no idea why everybody is so jacked up about this game, but here we are. I'm going, but I'm not expecting this to be that exciting based on what I saw against Louisville. Who knows though?


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on September 18, 2019, 09:23:26 AM
Georgia plays Notre Dame this weekend, and tickets were going for about $500+ for terrible seats.

We're 14 point favorites, and I have no idea why everybody is so jacked up about this game, but here we are. I'm going, but I'm not expecting this to be that exciting based on what I saw against Louisville. Who knows though?

UGA better win because fuck everything about ND


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on September 19, 2019, 07:10:53 AM
We should win. We're bigger on both sides of the ball, and statistically we're a better team than them in almost all facets. Yes we've played Vandy, Murray State, and AK State. They've played Louisville and New Mexico. Throw out the Murray State game, and comparing the two other opponents, Vandy and Louisville are about the same, and Arkansas State is WAY better than New Mexico.

Georgia is better in total offense, essentially the same in scoring, and better by about 60 positions in Total Defense.

The biggest swings are in 3 areas.

Notre Dame is 121st in 3rd down conversions, going up against a top 10 defense. That's 121st against crap defenses too.
Notre Dame is #1 in turnover margin. They've made their living getting the ball, which works against bad teams. It works less against a team that likes to run first and not throw, which Georgia does.
Georgia is 8th in rushing offense in the nation. Notre Dame is 120th in rushing defense.

It should be a ground and pound bloodbath with a bunch of ND 3 and outs, and Georgia hammering the ball at them for 4 quarters.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on September 20, 2019, 09:22:53 PM
Fuck USC you shitgobbling dicklords.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on September 21, 2019, 05:38:44 AM
Sorry Ab, Utah really shit the bed on that one. Four point favorites on the road against a bad USC team, and that will likely effectively eliminate the PAC-12 from the playoffs again since the top 3 teams have all already lost by Week 4.

The story of the game was drive-killing penalties for Utah. I think they played better than USC in most of that game, dominated ball control, and basically won every facet except for special teams and penalties. They had to settle for too many FG tries, and even had one blocked. Also the safety on the penalty was the disaster that killed the game when Utah was still very much in it.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on October 12, 2019, 02:47:22 PM
What a day for Fromm to fall apart.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on October 14, 2019, 06:06:35 AM
Not UGA's finest hour. I'm hoping that's the kick in the ass this bunch of slacker 5-stars needed to remind them you actually have to show up and try against every opponent.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on October 14, 2019, 07:01:38 AM
Not UGA's finest hour. I'm hoping that's the kick in the ass this bunch of slacker 5-stars needed to remind them you actually have to show up and try against every opponent.

Well Saturday is LSU's trap game against a lesser opponent so we'll see what happens on that front. Actually watched a bit of the LSU game up until it got tied up. At that point I flipped it off out of fear of the impending disappointment of losing at home again to fucking Florida. Shocked they pulled it out and still shocked LSU actually has a passing offense in league with big12 standards.

Twas the weekend for upsets though...


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on October 14, 2019, 07:17:31 AM
Missouri is leading the SEC East for the moment  :why_so_serious:

LSU is the real deal, nothing to worry about there. The concern for them is defense, which is odd. That's not normally their issue but in this case their offense goes so fast I think they put more pressure on a decent defensive squad.

Both the games against Auburn and Alabama will be problems because their pass defenses are both light years better than anything you've seen yet. That's the ultimate test.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on October 20, 2019, 12:42:03 AM
I will put up Utah's defense against any in the country. Scary good.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Chimpy on October 20, 2019, 01:59:38 PM
I will put up Utah's defense against any in the country. Scary good.

You say things like this a lot. Sure it isn't just the thin air up in the stands at Rice-Eccels and lots of alcohol clouding your perceptions?  :drillf:


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on October 21, 2019, 11:02:44 PM
They broke ASU's 125 game streak of scoring in double digits.  Other than a super-late garbage time one by OSU against our 3rd stringers, in the last 3 games they have given up 1 TD  and that was to Washington State's air raid offense.

Jayden Daniels, a very talented freshman QB at ASU that put up 38 points the week before, went 4/18 for 25 yards passing and an INT.  ASU was ranked #17. They had 140 yards. Total.  Oh, and we gave them four TOs and had a -2 TO ratio for the game, one of which led to their only score, a FG on a drive that went for -4 yards.

Utes are rated 4th in Total Defense in the county and its rushing D is #2 behind only Wisconsin.

So ya, they good.  Only played one iffy game and that was at USC and a lot of weird things happened there. Otherwise, shut everyone down cold.



Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on October 27, 2019, 12:10:39 AM
Utes just held Cal to 83 yards. For the game. With our 2nd string in most of the 2nd half.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on October 27, 2019, 03:08:59 PM
I have no idea how it all happened, but I'll be wearing all my LSU gear for the next two weeks until we come back down to earth in Tuscaloosa. But right now? wow... just wow


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on November 09, 2019, 05:40:36 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nLAsXfL.jpg)

Holy fuck...  :awesome_for_real: :drill:


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Chimpy on November 09, 2019, 09:32:45 PM
Speaking of holy fucks, apparently Illinois beat Michigan State in East Lansing tonight. Lovie Smith has a 4 game BigTen win streak right now O.o

He might finally be earning at least part of his ridiculous paycheck.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Brolan on November 10, 2019, 07:55:09 AM
Minnesota beat fourth ranked Penn State in Minneapolis yesterday.  Going 9-0 for the first time since 1904. 

Much fan insanity ensued as this was biggest football victory in Minnesota since about 1967.

Trivia question:  what five states were not even in the union in 1904?



Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Brolan on November 10, 2019, 10:09:21 AM


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on November 12, 2019, 10:01:40 AM
It's looking like we're not going to get Bama again unless the committee wants to play footsie with a team that's lost to the only decent team they've played, and beaten literally nobody else. Solid chance Auburn isn't ranked by the time Alabama plays them if Georgia wins, which means that Bama won't have a single quality ranked win on their schedule.

Clemson will get invited because they play in the cupcake league to end all cupcake leagues. The ACC is so shitty this year, it's embarrassing. It's Clemson and uhhhhhh, that's right nobody in the ACC ranked besides Clemson. You're going to have a 3 loss team playing against Clemson in the final, and likely no teams in that crap league with less than 3 losses by the end because Wake will lose to Clemson this week.

I've never seen an ACC this bad in my time alive. Comcast has still rejected carrying their shitty network, and it's the right call. That crap won't be economically viable in 2 years when the rest of the league is still dominated by Clemson and Friends.

Meanwhile the Big 10 has never been stronger. I would LOVE for Minnesota to win out and get a shot at the title instead of Ohio State. That would be so much fun. I can sell PJ Fleck and that boat rowing crew of weirdos all month long.

Georgia wins out, Georgia gets in. They don't and LSU gets in, and I think LSU is light years better than Georgia this year, so I'm not holding out much hope in that game.

Then the final spot is ridiculous. You'll have a 1 loss Big 10 champ loser, a 1 loss Alabama, potentially a 1 loss LSU if they lose, a 1 loss Oklahoma as Big 12 champ, and a 1 loss Pac 12 champ.

My bet right now is it goes Clemson, LSU, Ohio State, and then I think they finally toss a bone to the Pac-12 over Oklahoma because OU has had two shots and couldn't compete. I don't think they tell both 1 loss champs they didn't earn it in favor of Alabama or Minnesota.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on November 12, 2019, 10:27:57 AM
I'm not saying it'll happen, but Baylor winning out should get in.

One thing has always bugged me about the college rankings. You play a ranked team early in the year and it's a huge win. But then that ranked team drops 3-4 games and all the sudden you look back and say that quality win at the time is not currently a quality win. I understand it, but I don't agree with it. The ranking of who you beat at the time should matter more than the ranking later in the season.

Either way... I can still see LSU drop the ARK game because they always seem to fuck that Golden Boot game at the worst times... no matter how bad that Razorbacks team is looking that year.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Brolan on November 12, 2019, 11:44:32 AM
I hope Minnesota misses the playoffs and instead gets the Rose Bowl. 

I think we would be exposed a bit in the playoffs against these traditional powerhouse programs.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Chimpy on November 12, 2019, 12:35:12 PM
The fact that Minnesota is as good as they are makes Illinois look less bad for getting trounced by them last month.

Not that I am willing to go out on a limb and say the Illini are finally a decent team again. But at least they aren't guaranteed to be worst in the Big10 anymore.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on November 13, 2019, 11:42:24 AM
I'm not saying it'll happen, but Baylor winning out should get in.

Everybody forgets about Baylor because their undefeated record has one barely ranked win against Oklahoma State.

That being said they not only have to beat Oklahoma, they have to beat them TWICE to get in.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on November 13, 2019, 12:41:47 PM
I'm not saying it'll happen, but Baylor winning out should get in.

Everybody forgets about Baylor because their undefeated record has one barely ranked win against Oklahoma State.

That being said they not only have to beat Oklahoma, they have to beat them TWICE to get in.

Well I mean tOSU is not beating ranked teams left and right either. Or Clemson...


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on November 13, 2019, 01:41:47 PM
Yes Clemson is a sham team right now, but nobody can say anything because they'll go undefeated and they are the reigning champs. Gotta beat em.

Ohio State is odd. They are obviously running it up on shit teams to make a point, because they know their schedule is garbage. I think they are hoping that if they stumble against Penn State or somebody else, the committee will let it go because they were averaging 50 a game against hot air.

Ohio State is out if they lose to Penn State. They simply don't have enough good wins to warrant being in the playoff over teams who actually beat people, and they won't get to play in the Big 12 Championship.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on November 13, 2019, 01:53:36 PM
Yes Clemson is a sham team right now, but nobody can say anything because they'll go undefeated and they are the reigning champs. Gotta beat em.

Ohio State is odd. They are obviously running it up on shit teams to make a point, because they know their schedule is garbage. I think they are hoping that if they stumble against Penn State or somebody else, the committee will let it go because they were averaging 50 a game against hot air.

Ohio State is out if they lose to Penn State. They simply don't have enough good wins to warrant being in the playoff over teams who actually beat people, and they won't get to play in the Big 12 Championship.

I'm imagining a world where tOSU loses to PSU and PSU loses to Indiana. Then tOSU beats Minn in the B1G (or whatever the fuck it is called) and no one in the Big 10+ gets in.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Chimpy on November 13, 2019, 04:29:06 PM
The name is still the Big Ten, it is just the logo that says B1G.

But fuck if I know, I just work in the same building as all the local people for the BigTen Network  and the Big Ten Academic Alliance :P


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on November 13, 2019, 05:35:24 PM
The name is still the Big Ten, it is just the logo that says B1G.

But fuck if I know, I just work in the same building as all the local people for the BigTen Network  and the Big Ten Academic Alliance :P

I'm sure we all realize that and the fact that it doesn't logically apply to that conference anymore.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on November 17, 2019, 08:23:35 AM
So much for Minn and Baylor..  :uhrr:


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on November 18, 2019, 07:04:52 AM
So much for Minn and Baylor..  :uhrr:

Baylor was the laugher, had it until they didn't.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on November 18, 2019, 07:51:39 AM
I'm a little alarmed at the fact LSU went from "traditional smash mouth, let our defense grind you up" to "BIG12 hang 50 every game" type gameplay.

It is obviously working and we have enough residual defense left over to make it work, but damn they are giving up a lot of points.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on November 18, 2019, 07:56:15 AM
LSU doing what they are doing gives me hope, because they haven't seen a defense like Georgia yet. We may have the best defense in the country right now.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on November 18, 2019, 09:44:13 AM
Well we have exposed other defenses already... hopefully UGA will be solved as well. TBD.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on November 18, 2019, 04:44:56 PM
LSU doing what they are doing gives me hope, because they haven't seen a defense like Georgia yet. We may have the best defense in the country right now.

*cough*


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on November 18, 2019, 05:25:13 PM
LSU doing what they are doing gives me hope, because they haven't seen a defense like Georgia yet. We may have the best defense in the country right now.

*cough*

No U....te.   :awesome_for_real:

But yeah... Bama was no slouch on defense either so I like our chances in the SEC. That said, LSU still has to get passed Arkansas. Laugh all you want but they have fucked things up for us in the past - that damn golden boot trophy is a lot fo pressure.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on November 20, 2019, 02:11:55 PM
LSU doing what they are doing gives me hope, because they haven't seen a defense like Georgia yet. We may have the best defense in the country right now.

*cough*

Yards, yes. Points, we're ahead right now. The only one we're both behind is Ohio State and that's because it's Cupcake U right now.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Rasix on November 23, 2019, 09:17:31 PM
Arizona possibly played its best football game since we had Gronkowski trucking guys as a freshman. We'll still be garbage, but we're going to very likely ruin a few PAC12 team's chances at a good season this year. Team actually has an offense that isn't all dink and dunk passes and gives our defense chances to not be dead tired by the second quarter. Tate might even make a decent pro.

This post has not aged well. Not well at all. Fucking yikes.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on November 24, 2019, 12:55:30 AM
Heh. Its rare to see a team in conference play late in the season on literally "easy mode." Utah looked like a cat with a mouse that entire game. Just batting it around for fucking entertainment value.  :drillf:


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on November 25, 2019, 06:33:12 AM
Assuming Utah wins their championship, I think they have an issue with Oklahoma, and likely need them to lose against to make it to the playoff.

Alabama didn't win their conference and they lost the only game that mattered. The best win they have will be either a 4 loss Aggie team or a 4 loss Auburn team. So I don't think the committee puts in a second SEC team over 2 conference 1 loss champs.

Oklahoma has a signature win against 1 loss Baylor, and they have several wins against better teams than Utah played.

Utah doesn't have a good win. Oregon losing twice now hurts their case further, because that's the only win they will get that matters. Everybody else? Minimum 5 losses, and the PAC-12 as a whole looks like a disaster.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on November 25, 2019, 08:33:00 PM
Utah is looking better down the stretch.  Oklahoma over the last 4 games is 3-1 with an aggregate score of 145-144 and 10 TOs.   In that stretch Utah has blown everyone out of the water by the end of the 3rd quarter and are making PAC-12 offenses, which are typically prolific, give up the will to live.  National people are saying every single graduating or early leaver on the D will either be drafted or at least be in a pro camp. They have 6 players going to the Senior Bowl and the QB is putting up better numbers in some statistical categories than either Burrows or Lawrence.  Utah beat ASU when they were #17 and Washington at home coming off a bye. Its one loss was without their best player and against a team that finished in the top 25.  OKs loss is to a worse team than USC.  The Big 12 sucks across the board every bit as much as the PAC 12. Committee didn't give an undefeated Baylor much love showing that they actually don't think much about the conference.

Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if OSU beat OK this week anyways.

I think if Utah wins out and nothing weird happens in the SEC title game that they are in the playoff unless Bama just destroys Auburn and the committee just can't get past their SEC bias, but even then how do you take a team that only plays 8 conference games and didn't even win its division.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on November 27, 2019, 10:18:48 AM
Ab, I love your enthusiasm for your program, but I think Utah is fighting two things here:

1 - Yes Utah has blown out everyone. There's a reason. The PAC-12 is bad with the vast majority of the conference having 5 losses or more, and only the ACC rivals it for shittiest Power 5 conference this year. And the only game they lost was against is also the only other team that's currently ranked in the poll. Honestly USC would have been their best win if they had done it. As it stands, they have no good wins, and they'll have to beat Oregon to get a shot which is absolutely no guarantee. You can reference the Arizona state win, but they have 5 losses now. That won't hold up. Washington has 5 losses and may take a 6th.

2 - Is your loss better than Oklahoma? Yes. Is it better than Alabama? No. However, it won't matter if there's no signature wins to go along with it. You get credit for going undefeated even against relatively bad competition, but you don't get credit for dropping one game in that same stretch. Also despite your opinion that the committee doesn't like the Big 12 any more than the Pac 12, there's 4 ranked teams in one and 3 in the other. They obviously think the Big 12 warranted better consideration.

If Georgia beats LSU, you're fucked because they aren't leaving LSU out with one loss, but wins over Auburn, Alabama, and Florida all of whom are still ranked currently. If LSU wins, then you have then I think you have to deal with the fact that Oklahoma has better ranked wins. They'll have the Baylor win, the Iowa State win, and the Oklahoma State win (you can also count the Texas win if you want to used ranked at the time logic like Arizona State). And then they'll have another ranked win because they play Baylor again.

Best case scenario? LSU wins, and Oklahoma takes a loss to OK State or Baylor. Then your path is wide open. I don't think they take a 1 loss non-champion Alabama who lost their best weapon at QB (which honestly I think is the main reason, if Tua is healthy I think you'd have a MAJOR stumbling block). Hell I'm not sure Alabama can actually beat Auburn without their offense actually working right, and I'm betting they look bad.

EDIT: And just so you know, I'm not rooting against you here. I WANT Utah in the title shot over the same old shitty OU who can't play defense when it matters or fucking Bama. I'm just voicing my concerns about the committee TV-rating-loving groupthink.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on November 27, 2019, 08:08:50 PM
I don't disagree with anything you wrote, just putting out a different perspective.  The Committee yesterday clearly set up the narrative that if a 11-1 OK and 11-1 Baylor play, that winner is likely going to get into the 4. That's the only reason they stuck Baylor as high as they did this week.  It's the same set-up they established for the PAC-12 until The Oregon Fucks managed to screw it up.

This week I am a very big OSU and Auburn fan as that is the only path right now.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on December 01, 2019, 02:04:57 AM
Heh, Bama losing because of a hinky FG only existing because of a replay and then clanging one off the post PLUS having 12 guys on the field once they force a punt is

(https://media.giphy.com/media/3o8doT9BL7dgtolp7O/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on December 01, 2019, 07:27:04 AM
Just want to go on record and say I'd like to see Utah vs tOSU and LSU vs Clemson. tOSU and Utah - would be interesting to see the defenses.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on December 03, 2019, 05:57:27 AM
Bama losing was good because it removes them entirely. Now it's basically up to UGA to see who gets in and who doesn't.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on December 07, 2019, 06:24:53 AM
Someone better go check on Abagadro. After that loss, I don't know if any Utah fans are not in some kind of self-inflicted stupor.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Chimpy on December 07, 2019, 07:36:44 AM
Someone better go check on Abagadro. After that loss, I don't know if any Utah fans are not in some kind of self-inflicted stupor.

He was alive as of this morning and posting on discord.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Hoax on December 07, 2019, 07:43:32 AM
So Utah out and with it the PAC-12, that sorta sucks from a west coast perspective.

I guess it means Big12 game is a win and in game.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on December 07, 2019, 08:28:33 AM
So Utah out and with it the PAC-12, that sorta sucks from a west coast perspective.

I guess it means Big12 game is a win and in game.

Not if Georgia beats LSU. Hard to keep Georgia out if they win... which means LSU, Clemson, tOSU, and Georgia.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Hoax on December 07, 2019, 09:30:19 AM
LSU will not get in if everyone but them wins esp if its Oaklahoma that wins Big12. Bet it.

It would be The Ohio State University, Clemson, UGA and OU/Baylor.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on December 07, 2019, 09:38:53 PM
I'm alive. I just have a big sad.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on December 09, 2019, 10:12:22 AM
I also have a sad.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on December 09, 2019, 10:31:55 AM
I'm actually fairly excited to see tOSU and Clemson go at it. Tired of Clemson "feeling disrespected" when they haven't played a single great team yet. I'll give them credit once they beat tOSU, but until then, Dabo can go get bent.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Hoax on December 09, 2019, 04:18:48 PM
Man UGA got fucking shit on, non-contest I barely watched because it felt so over so quickly. That was a bit of a surprise. tOSU struggling a bit didn't shock me, coaches are scheming Chase Young more or something and it tends to be quite difficult to beat the same opponent twice also it was such a trap game.

That said I do think both playoff games might be interesting if OU can actually generate scores versus LSU and if tOSU is going to show up big and take it to Clemson like they did to Bama in the first playoff, I believe they have the talent so it'll come down to motivation/coaching/18-23 yr olds being in the right mindstate which is a big who the fuck knows. But its big advantage Clemson right now, they can legit play the "nobody believes in us" bullshit which I do think helps that whole mindstate thing a lot during these big layoff/practice/film stretches. Also they have been there before, they know the schedule/stakes etc.



Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on December 10, 2019, 06:10:44 AM
I can say with all confidence if you can't get to Joe Burrow, you lose. That kid is amazing to watch in person.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on December 14, 2019, 01:59:18 AM
Dude is legit Aaron Rodgers 2.0.  If a GM can get him surrounded by some OL talent and a couple of legit WR/TE outlets, he is super bowl bound in 3 years.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on December 14, 2019, 02:24:25 PM
Also Baylor can beat this version of Georgia. Our offense can't keep up in a shootout, and I expect our best RB not to play in the game.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on December 15, 2019, 05:23:14 AM
I can say with all confidence if you can't get to Joe Burrow, you lose. That kid is amazing to watch in person.

He cleaned up the awards this year and gave a pretty heartfelt Heisman speech. Really hope LSU can finish the year out for him. Be nice to tack on a National Championship to the list.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on December 16, 2019, 08:42:26 AM
They'll be favored. Ohio State is the wild card. I don't think Clemson is playing well enough to catch either team. Oklahoma is a joke this year but Georgia fucked up so they get their nod.

LSU is favored by 13 and rising. Alabama was a -14.5 over OU last year, and that was the biggest spread ever. But here we are. I'd still take LSU. Oklahoma in a shootout would be doomed.

Ohio State and Clemson better known as the "Who the fuck are these guys really?" Bowl. Clemson is favored by 2. That's the sucker play. Clemson hasn't played a ranked team this year, and Ohio State is still putting up better offensive numbers. I'd roll the dice with Ohio State and if Clemson wins, so be it. However, I'd bet on the known versus the unknown.

I expect LSU and Ohio State in the final. I want that final. It's what we all deserve.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on December 31, 2019, 07:34:27 PM
What the hell Utah?


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on December 31, 2019, 09:12:04 PM
No clue. These last two games have baffled me. Not the same team I watched all year.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Brolan on January 01, 2020, 06:19:31 PM
I'm really proud of Minnesota this year.  Their best season in the past 20-30 years and they handled Auburn today in the Outback Bowl.  Hopefully they can build on this.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on January 02, 2020, 06:56:06 AM
I thought Minnesota played very well, and I'm happy they beat Auburn because screw them.

Georgia won against a bad Baylor team, and it looked relatively easy. Hopefully new year and new coaches will help the offense thrive.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on January 02, 2020, 09:28:35 AM
Also Baylor can beat this version of Georgia. Our offense can't keep up in a shootout, and I expect our best RB not to play in the game.

So much for Baylor and that big points offense. SEC was looking good until Auburn decided it no longer wanted to play big boy football. Good on MINN... hope they continue next year and actually win the West.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on January 02, 2020, 10:46:07 AM
Matt Rhule should have taken a job if there was one before the Georgia game.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on January 14, 2020, 02:19:58 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/yTUtFdA.gif)


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Rasix on January 14, 2020, 08:52:45 AM
Scary team. Too much talent on offense and just good enough on defense. That receiving corp would probably perform well as a unit on any NFL team.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: 01101010 on January 14, 2020, 08:57:23 AM
Wish I had the money and time to get down there for the parade on Saturday...


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Abagadro on January 14, 2020, 06:54:59 PM
Easily one of the top college teams of the modern era.  Scary amount of talent.


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Paelos on January 16, 2020, 07:57:47 AM
Great job Tigers, won me $100 in Vegas that weekend.  :grin:


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Khaldun on June 30, 2021, 07:05:29 PM
Re: the Supreme Court decision, did you all know that you would hate college football if the players made money? That's what the NCAA says, after all--nobody would watch if they thought the players were making money alongside everybody else (except the numerous Division I universities that actually lose money on the whole fucking thing).


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: HaemishM on June 30, 2021, 07:48:38 PM
Did anyone really think the NCAA was being an honest actor, ever?


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Sir T on July 04, 2021, 03:53:36 AM
There's a similar story here in Ireland where the GAA (Gaelic Athletic Association) prefers the people who play their sports to do it for the love of the game and pride for their county rather than, you know, get paid for busting their asses 24/7. Because, you know the GAA promotes Irish culture and Irish Pride and don't allow any foreign sports to abuse our national Sports parks... apart from letting Notre Dame have an American football match in our best sports pitch. becasue they call themselves the Fighting Irish. So thats ok. Thanks for the contribution of funds to the GAA and Gaelic Sports!


Title: Re: College Football 2019-20: We're all hoping it's not Clemson and Bama again
Post by: Sky on July 07, 2021, 05:52:41 AM
There was a guy I worked with for years, that for years after would come over and have beers and watch football on my big ol OG hdtv. He kept trying to get me into college ball, and would always say he preferred it for exactly that reason (the 'purity of the game').