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Title: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Khaldun on October 02, 2018, 04:32:50 PM
This looks like the Spider-Man equivalent of Batman: Mask of the Phantasm in terms of being good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg52up16eq0


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Shannow on October 05, 2018, 01:46:43 PM
Got around to watching the trailer and well, that actually looks pretty good.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Trippy on October 07, 2018, 10:40:06 PM
Trailer #2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg52up16eq0


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Velorath on December 13, 2018, 11:55:15 PM
Shockingly the reviews are right. This is in fact the best Spider-man movie that's been made so far, and up there with the top-tier Marvel movies. It's got the balance of humor and heart that the Guardians of the Galaxy movies and Thor: Ragnarok have and it was clearly made by people who understand and love the character in all his/her iterations. Plus it's good all ages stuff as well.

I was a little concerned about the art style going into it, but it works really well and there's some stuff over the first part of the end credit's that's mind-blowingly good. I think a lot of folks here will find it completely worth watching.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Khaldun on December 16, 2018, 07:51:17 PM
Best Spider-Man movie ever, definitely. Maybe the best comic-book movie ever. The visual work is mind-bogglingly smart and good--it's both cinematic AND invokes the storytelling style of comics in some really thorough, unique ways. Plus great character work, a smart story that even people who haven't read comics can follow. Just a great love poem to Spider-Man specifically but comics generally.

P.S. stay to the very end--the first post-credits scene is moving; the last is hilarious.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Wasted on December 21, 2018, 09:52:21 PM
I loved this, as good as anything Marvel has done.  Looks beautiful too.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Setanta on December 23, 2018, 12:56:46 PM
Well worth the money, I took my 10yo daughter and 8yo step daughter to this and we all walked out happy. It worked on so many levels.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Surlyboi on December 23, 2018, 09:25:17 PM
This was so very good.

The douchebags behind me bitching about the mid credit sequence, not so much.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Ruvaldt on December 26, 2018, 07:08:05 PM
This was excellent.  Not only is it clear that the people behind it love Spider-Man, but comic books in general.  It's not uncommon to watch comic book adaptations and feel like the film makers are ignoring, if not running away from, their source material.  But that's not the case with this movie at all and it improves every aspect of the film.

This is also getting a sequel and a spin-off so we're in for more.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Ironwood on December 28, 2018, 09:21:24 AM
Yeah, this was pretty great, start to finish.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: MediumHigh on December 28, 2018, 09:38:35 AM
The Positives
This movie was perfect
The Negatives
This movie is perfect. Makes me wonder why it wasn't made sooner

Oh and this movie officially fixes miles morales. Will comic books take note? No because he is too busy being a b-character in a ms.marvel-khan book. But whoever wrote this movie basically rubbed their nutsack all over the last 10 years of comic book writing for miles.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Khaldun on December 28, 2018, 07:28:35 PM
Though hilariously Bendis is on Miles' frequent caller list early in the movie.

It's really pretty much almost the best comic-book movie ever.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Abagadro on December 29, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Instant top-tier superhero movie.  The final post-credits scene was hilarious.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: lamaros on January 04, 2019, 03:37:21 PM
This movie was good, and really well made.

Not being a comics fan myself I think I missed a lot of what makes it great for some of you, though.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Threash on January 08, 2019, 07:04:37 PM
I can't think of a single complaint to give about this movie. Not even a minor nitpick.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Ironwood on January 09, 2019, 02:31:27 AM
I can only think of one, but as usual it's the story ;  I think the plot suffered very much from 'Oh Noes, We've Got In The Way Of Ourselves on the Way to this Easy Solution'.  Also, Kirk Spiderman went out like a Bitch.

(But these are as minor nitpicks as you can possibly get.  Also, see Bumblebee right after this movie.  Or before.)


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: TheWalrus on January 09, 2019, 12:25:47 PM
My minor nitpick was I saw it in 3d. Which is great for most of the movie, but the shots of the city when the collider was going off were fucking near seizure inducing. Lots of flashing and graphic effects that were apparently amplified by the 3d part. Lots of folks who saw it in 2d said it wasn't bad at all. So yeah. Pretty minor.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Threash on January 10, 2019, 05:24:34 PM
Any chance anyone knows who did the awesome "the choice is yours" mashup that played during the graffiti scene? the official soundtrack just has the original song.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Morat20 on January 14, 2019, 08:31:13 AM
Just saw this yesterday with my niece and nephew. It was absolutely fantastic, the animation style was fabulous. As noted early, it really made Miles work as a character.

My six year old niece was very enthralled with Spider-Gwen, although found Kingpin "Scary". :)

Pretty much every take on every character was fantastic, including the villains. I loved how they varied everyone's animation style yet made it fit together seamlessly -- like say the way they handled Kingpin versus Green Goblin.

The Liv character was very, very well done. :)


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Rishathra on January 14, 2019, 09:10:20 AM
As someone not familiar with the Miles Morales universe, I was legitimately surprised by the  and she became one of my favorite characters after that point.   The character design and aesthetic by itself made me love her.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Khaldun on January 14, 2019, 10:04:19 AM
I didn't follow the Ultimate Universe that closely, but I don't think she's actually a previously introduced version of Doctor Octopus--I think she was created entirely for the movie. There was a female Doctor Octopus in the comics for a little while, during one of those periods where Doctor Octopus was "dead" (but I don't think his more recent "death" that led to him being Spider-Man for a while) but I don't think she's the template for the movie one. The movie character was in fact great--I also really liked her look and role in the story.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Ironwood on January 14, 2019, 10:47:37 AM
Yup.  Also, Spoilers.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Khaldun on January 14, 2019, 04:05:52 PM
Not saying WHICH character she is, after all. :)


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Ironwood on January 15, 2019, 01:21:13 AM
True, but what I will say is that I am rarely surprised at any movie anymore and that was one I didn't see coming, so I was like 'Hmm, cool'.  Meanwhile, wife and daughter on either side were like 'HOLY FUCKBALLS, WHAT THE SHIT'.

So it IS kind of a moment.  Or maybe I just wasn't paying attention earlier. I am old.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Khaldun on January 15, 2019, 05:54:30 AM
It surprised the hell out of me, and I know comic books backwards and forwards.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Morat20 on January 18, 2019, 05:57:26 PM
It surprised the hell out of me, and I know comic books backwards and forwards.

The did a real good job of keeping that quiet, and so did most people who watched the movie.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Severian on February 25, 2019, 11:08:11 AM
Just won Best Animated Film at the Oscars, the first time Disney has lost in the category since 2006*

*when Rango won in 2011 Disney didn't have one nominated


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: schild on February 25, 2019, 11:29:46 AM
Just won Best Animated Film at the Oscars, the first time Disney has lost in the category since 2006*

*when Rango won in 2011 Disney didn't have one nominated

disney owns marvel tho

the hmouse always wins


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Threash on February 25, 2019, 03:43:17 PM
They don't own spider-man yet though, right?


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Trippy on February 25, 2019, 04:29:16 PM
Nope, though Marvel was involved with the production.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Velorath on February 25, 2019, 05:20:07 PM
They don't own spider-man yet though, right?

They own Spider-man, the character is just licensed to Sony for movies (and video games I guess). Obviously I'm sure we all understood this already, but point being that it is in a lot of ways still at least a partial win for Disney. And while I love the MCU stuff this is absolutely the kind of movie that wouldn't have been made under Disney/Marvel under their current business model (much like they wouldn't have made Logan or Deadpool). It's a good example of why I'm not anxious for all the properties to end up back with Disney.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Bunk on April 01, 2019, 05:41:38 PM
This just came up in On Demand here, and I have to say you are all correct, possibly the best comic book movie to date. It was well enough crafted that I was actually enjoying the "pre spiderman" story of Miles to the point that I was kinda disappointed when it had to end to get on to the "real" story. Loved all the drastic shifts in style. They managed to make a trans-dimensional story make sense and easy to follow, and they actually made Peter Porker work within the whole thing. Hoping to see a sequel.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Ruvaldt on April 01, 2019, 10:22:55 PM
A sequel and a spin-off for Spider-Gwen are happening.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Polysorbate80 on April 05, 2019, 10:22:15 PM
My daughter—who is 15 and of course hates everything just because—sat and watched through this a second time tonight.  Swearing she didn’t like it but she didn’t budge during the whole thing, and I watched her giggling thru the whole show.  Not that she would ever admit it.

Particularly Spider-Ham, she loves John Mulaney. (She does admit that—barely)


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Ironwood on April 06, 2019, 03:21:31 PM
This got an early release, so we bought it and watched it again.

Goddamn.



Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Surlyboi on April 06, 2019, 09:15:43 PM
If you own it, watch the alternate universe version. It adds about a half hour of material, most of it storyboard but some fully rendered and with a lot of the dialogue recorded. It flashes out the narrative and adds a few twists.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Riggswolfe on April 08, 2019, 06:53:34 AM
I finally watched this On Demand last night. It was excellent. Spider Gwen was easily my favorite part of the movie and was the only reveal I guessed long before it happened. I've heard she is a great character and if she is like that in the comics I can see why. I'm not buying her and Miles as a romance but only because he looks a lot younger than her due to the animation style I think. Like she looks 18 and he looks 14 to my eyes.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Surlyboi on April 08, 2019, 10:24:21 AM
In the comics, she's 21 and he's 16-17, so it's kinda weird.

They brought their ages closer together for the movie though and they could probably hand wave a lot of it away by coming up with some "time moves differently in the alternate universes", or some such time-wimey jiggery-pokery. 


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Riggswolfe on April 09, 2019, 08:57:30 AM
In the comics, she's 21 and he's 16-17, so it's kinda weird.

They brought their ages closer together for the movie though and they could probably hand wave a lot of it away by coming up with some "time moves differently in the alternate universes", or some such time-wimey jiggery-pokery. 

They don't really give ages in the movie but I honestly thought he was in middle school when the movie started. I think it's just my misreading of his age that made it odd for me in the movie. They're probably intended to be within a year or two of each other in the movie.

This movie did make me consider hunting down graphic novels that collected some of the Spider Gwen comics to see if she is as fun in comic form as she was in the movie.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Velorath on April 09, 2019, 10:03:48 AM
Gwen specifically mentions being 15 months older than Miles right before she heads back to her dimension.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: HaemishM on April 09, 2019, 12:59:08 PM
The Spider-Gwen comics are generally pretty good, if you dig the art style - it's highly stylized.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Phildo on April 09, 2019, 03:26:51 PM
A woman I know just posted some pics on Facebook of her daughter requesting Spider Gwen's haircut and it's adorable.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Sky on July 15, 2019, 08:26:40 AM
I was surprised to see this pop up on Netflix and immediately watched half of it...despite it being 2am when I noticed it.

Phenomenal comics movie, they just nailed it.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Soln on August 05, 2019, 10:11:07 PM
This is superb. Just as a film, it’s great. I really hope it reaps awards. Super impressed.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Trippy on August 05, 2019, 10:14:05 PM
It already has:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4633694/awards


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: schild on August 06, 2019, 10:56:06 AM
was gonna say, basically won every award that matters


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Teleku on August 06, 2019, 12:22:32 PM
Yeah, the animation and art direction on this was super impressive.  The way they blended the different art styles and the random use of comic thought bubbles/boxes though out....  Just a lot of fun to watch.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: SurfD on August 06, 2019, 07:04:08 PM
Haven't been able to confirm it, but a co-worker mentioned that apparently they played even more subtle tricks with the visual effects than most people think.   Supposedly for the first half or so of the move, Miles is actually animated at a slightly slower frame rate than everyone/thing around him, and he is eventually "sped up" to a matching framerate with the rest of the cast to highlight his development as a person / fully coming into his role as the new spiderperson of his universe.


Title: Re: Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Post by: Goumindong on August 08, 2019, 11:50:41 AM
He is indeed animated on 2's immediately from the point he gets his super powers to the point he makes his leap of faith