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Can I ask for recommendations in this thread or is that a diff one?

Should we discuss other tabletop games here too, eg. DnD?

Sure make D&D thread.

Yes this thread is for recommendations also.

So I can't get Gloomhaven.

What's the next step down ?

It's tough to make a single suggestion because Gloomhaven does a lot of different things and puts them all into a single package.  I don't feel like there is any one other game that does everything Gloomhaven does, but there are plenty of good games out there that replicate some aspects of it but not others.  So it kind of depends on what aspect of Gloomhaven most appeals to you.

If you're looking for an RPG-in-a-box then Folklore: The Afflicition is good.  It was also just reprinted from a second Kickstarter so copies are relatively easy to find and inexpensive.  It's not quite Gloomhaven though because the RPG elements are stronger, while having less emergent gameplay and more randomness through the use of dice.

If you're looking for card-based gameplay that can be played solo, co-op or competitively there is Mage Knight.  Or if you prefer a sci-fi theme there is a re-skinned Mage Knight named Star Trek Frontiers that I prefer.  There's no campaign mode though as each game is an isolated scenario.  Another great card-based co-op game is Spirit Island, but it again doesn't have a campaign mode and is only similar in terms of the gameplay elements.

If you're looking for a good story Mansions of Madness is a solid choice.  The mechanics are nowhere near as tight as Gloomhaven though and there also isn't any campaign or character progression.

If you're looking for a thematic dungeon crawler then there are tons of choices.  Descent and Imperial Assault both have apps that make them coop now and they're both solid choices as they have campaign modes like Gloomhaven has.  That's where the similarities end though because they rely much more on dice chucking and are far more Ameritrashy than Gloomhaven.

Well, that's an excellent answer and I myself took to a couple of hours research to find out, only for the wife to come home and mention that she has, through her network of social contacts, managed to snag me a remaining copy of the game from a darkened sorcerous shop somewhere.

So there's that.

Didn't know where else to put this, but...

GMT Games is having a 50% off sale for almost every in-stock item on their website that starts at 1:00pm PST.  It lasts from October 18 to 25 and in past sales like this things tend to go out of stock fast so the sooner you act the better.  If you're one of the three or four board game fans that still doesn't have Twilight Struggle this is a good excuse to pick it up.  Or one of the COIN games, though the reprints of A Distant Plain and Fire on the Lake aren't included in the sale, unfortunately, since they're still shipping pre-orders.  Colonial Twilight, Falling Sky, Cuba Libre and Pendragon are good and should be included in the sale though.

Web Address: https://www.gmtgames.com/ (https://www.gmtgames.com/).  When you check out use the code, GMTSale2018 to get the discount.

The website is likely to be slow for the first day of the sale.

i can't even connect fml

Yeah, this is exactly what happened when they threw the few remaining Twilight Struggle collector's editions up on the site.  When it eventually comes back up it'll also be nightmarishly slow.  Unless you're a grognard though you're probably just making a beeline for COIN games or mounted boards so there's not a lot of need to shop around.

to be fair, they've produced nothing else as nice as the TS CE, so that makes sense

got connected, literally anything i had an interest in is sold out

sounds to me like they should just decrease their prices 50%

While you're there Dominant Species: Marine (https://www.gmtgames.com/p-738-dominant-species-marine.aspx) is available for P500 as of today also. Player count dropped from 6 to 4 and they've streamlined some rules as well as tweaking the theme. I think Dominant Species was pretty amazing as is, but I'm more than happy to throw more money in their direction.

Has anyone looked at Shadowrun 6E? Is it overwhelmingly bad like Reddit says, or just regular Shadowrun bad?

Anyone have experience with Nova Aetas?  They're doing a second generation KS and I'm curious.

This isn't a question or answer, but Wave 3 shit launches tomorrow on All Aboard Games for you 18xx fans. I'm grabbing Rolling Stock Stars and 1849. Probably nothing else. Part of me wants 18MS, but ehhh.