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Title: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: schild on July 20, 2017, 07:32:30 PM
ft. GladOS

apparently

I don't fucking know

still too dark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pbwgwllquA


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on July 20, 2017, 08:02:38 PM
Glad0s voice was in the first one too. Also this looks like a better Transformers movie than transformers.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: MediumHigh on July 21, 2017, 01:32:52 AM
Oh this may suck.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Merusk on July 21, 2017, 07:57:24 AM
The only reason it'll suck is it's going to rehash the first movie and not dial it up to 11 with tens to hundreds of Jagers.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: 01101010 on July 21, 2017, 08:13:38 AM
This is getting a sequel. Jesus, I guess I am now officially old as I just don't get it. People need to stop making shitty movies and then turning around and making a sequel(s) to those movies.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Teleku on July 21, 2017, 08:25:38 AM
Ok, lets not reopen the Pacific Rim Good/Bad debate can of worms again..... 


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Merusk on July 21, 2017, 08:43:51 AM
But what about tanks vs mechs


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: 01101010 on July 21, 2017, 08:47:04 AM
More Logan, less Power Rangers.

That pretty much tells you I'm old and bitter.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Sir T on July 21, 2017, 09:06:58 AM
Was Pacific Rim a Dumb awesome movie, or an Awesome Dumb movie?

And the question is - will they forget that Swords exist for most of the movie again?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Bzalthek on July 21, 2017, 09:12:53 AM
And the question is - will they forget that Swords exist for most of the movie again?  :why_so_serious:

You know, because I saw this topic last night, I realized I hadn't seen the first one.  So I rectified that.  Most of the movie I'm thinking, why are they boxing the damn things (and occasionally shooting).  Then he used that ship as a club and I'm thinking "finally!" 

And then the sword comes out and I'm dumbfounded.

But it was an entertaining 2 hours, if cheesy in many places.  I will definitely watch part 2.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Soulflame on July 21, 2017, 09:17:05 AM
Pacific Rim was terrible.

By the law of sequels, this will be worse.

Who the fuck greenlights this shit.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: schild on July 21, 2017, 09:18:01 AM
this is funny because half this board ragged on me for saying Pacific Rim was crap (and you couldn't fucking see anything)


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Rendakor on July 21, 2017, 09:43:47 AM
I thought it was good, dumb fun. I'll watch the sequel, but not in theaters.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Threash on July 21, 2017, 10:55:14 AM
Pacific Rim was great, it is you who sucked!


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Quinton on July 21, 2017, 07:23:30 PM
How can you hate elbow rockets?

I enjoyed the hell out of Pacific Rim.  Dumb but fun.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Ruvaldt on July 21, 2017, 08:33:44 PM
I loved Pacific Rim.  I can't wait to see this.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: schild on July 21, 2017, 09:15:00 PM
How can you hate elbow rockets?

I enjoyed the hell out of Pacific Rim.  Dumb but fun.
I mean, if I was gonna pick favorites in terms of fireable appendages, I'd pick Survive Style 5+. Also, you can see what's happening in that movie.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: HaemishM on July 21, 2017, 09:34:22 PM
Pacific Rim was great, it is you who sucked!

This. Fuck all you haters, I loved Pac Rim.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Cyrrex on July 22, 2017, 01:40:17 AM
Pacific Rim was great, it is you who sucked!

This. Fuck all you haters, I loved Pac Rim.

Signed.  Great popcorn movie.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: MediumHigh on July 22, 2017, 02:17:53 AM
Pacific Rim was good. Not in the well this was a well constructed film way but in a call back to the fuck yeah movies on the 80s and 90s. 20 years from now, after Pacific Rim 2 fails miserably, their going to remake this movie and people will bitch and moan about how unoriginal hollywood is.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Velorath on July 22, 2017, 02:32:20 AM
I liked the first one well enough when I saw it. Just not enough apparently to ever watch it a second time or to look forward to the sequel.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Amarr HM on July 22, 2017, 02:35:24 AM
Pacific rim was top notch, the missus even enjoyed it.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Teleku on July 22, 2017, 02:52:00 AM
God dammit, what did I tell you Mr. Binary!   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: 01101010 on July 22, 2017, 05:11:07 AM
God dammit, what did I tell you Mr. Binary!   :awesome_for_real:

Mission accomplished


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Tale on July 24, 2017, 05:31:01 AM
Pacific Rim was great, it is you who sucked!

This. Fuck all you haters, I loved Pac Rim.

Signed.  Great popcorn movie.


Shockingly fake Australian accents though. Some kind of British American concept of what Australian accents are, but with a British bulldog in tow.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Khaldun on July 24, 2017, 07:01:23 AM
Pacific Rim was a decent kaiju movie. Since kaiju movies are 98.5% shit and only are memorable as a kind of bemused nostalgia for sitting on our collective asses on 70s Saturday afternoons watching UHF channels, a decent kaiju movie is a somewhat dumb overall movie.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: satael on July 24, 2017, 07:46:23 AM
I thought that Pacific Rim was a mediocre movie and mediocre as a kaiju movie. For me it seemed to fall into the same "trap" as many other western kaiju movies by having a "hero" main character instead of making the monster (or the giant robot) be the center of the movie.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Merusk on July 24, 2017, 10:36:31 AM
I thought that Pacific Rim was a mediocre movie and mediocre as a kaiju movie. For me it seemed to fall into the same "trap" as many other western kaiju movies by having a "hero" main character instead of making the monster (or the giant robot) be the center of the movie.

This is a very fair critique and one I don't expect to be resolved in #2, unfortunately. It was disappointing that DelToro was stuck in that box, too. I expected more of him on that front, but since he's not attached to #2 I wonder if a lot of it wasn't studio muddling.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: HaemishM on July 24, 2017, 11:19:33 AM
I'm pretty sure Pac Rim was Del Toro's desire to make a live action anime with giant robots fighting kaiju like Neon Genesis Evangelion instead of a kaiju monster movie like Godzilla.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Hoax on July 24, 2017, 03:38:51 PM
I could see everything in 3d imax during the first one, it was nothing like the older transformers (they seem to have fixed in the last few judging from trailers but I've never watched any but #1) where it was actually fucking impossible to even figure out who was fighting who let alone what was happening.

Imma watch the shit out of Pac Rim 2. I can't promise it'll be any good or make any sense or even not fuck up the things that the first one did right and those things did exist. But if someone offers me giant robots on a bigass screen I'm there. No Power Rangers didn't count on that front just like it never did on Saturday mornings.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Sir T on July 24, 2017, 09:38:32 PM
Well, at the end of the First one all they earthlings really have to be doing is having the mechs standing at the Rift, chopping up the monsters as they walk through, with their fucking SWORDS. So maybe we will get hawt Mech on Mech action as the political alliance due to the threat decays.

I'd bet on the first Mech Sex scene ever on film, except I'm terrified it might actually happen.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: HaemishM on July 25, 2017, 08:30:23 AM
I'd bet on the first Mech Sex scene ever on film, except I'm terrified it might actually happen.

I'm damn sure not going to Google it, but I am willing to bet good money that Japan has already got you covered there.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Sir T on July 25, 2017, 09:25:58 AM
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Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Merusk on July 25, 2017, 11:27:51 AM
Rule 34 covers all things.

I have learned this to my detriment many, many times with much more bizarre things.  Mech on Mech is so tame as to be normal.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Ard on July 25, 2017, 07:37:49 PM
What about mech on tank action though?  That's still forbidden right?


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Sir T on July 25, 2017, 09:16:00 PM
Well, tanks are always male, so...


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: taolurker on July 25, 2017, 11:07:47 PM
For those interested in robot humping

I thought first movie was totally fine, just suffered most from no-name actors (maybe needed a couple who were better actors for some things), and was basically what I'd wanted in a kaiju movie. I was disappointed with how dark the palette was, but other than that it was fine popcorn mech'ing. Excited for #2


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Shannow on July 26, 2017, 07:40:20 AM
(maybe needed a couple who were better actors for some things)

Like actually having Australian characters and then employing non-Australians to play them, terrible accents and all. Not that Hollywood is fucking littered with Australians or anything.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Phildo on July 26, 2017, 08:40:10 AM
Sure it is, the Hemsworths are the new Baldwins.  One of them has to be available.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: luckton on October 06, 2017, 11:34:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EhiLLOhVis&t=0s

Official Trailer #1. Less Mobile Suit Gundam, more Mobile Fighter G Gundam  :drill:


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: MediumHigh on October 06, 2017, 11:49:50 AM
Coming from someone who like the grungy last stand aesthetic of the first film. This going all anime for children and white people may be awesome. Or a bright colorful mess...


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: HaemishM on October 06, 2017, 12:08:52 PM
I'm down.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Ard on October 06, 2017, 07:24:22 PM
I didn't even know that this is what I wanted them to do with this movie.  The trailer had me grinning so hard my face hurts right now.  :woot:


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Teleku on October 07, 2017, 11:31:03 AM
I'm down.

Though I do shed a single perfect tear that they didn't do 'Atlantic Rim' as the sequel.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Father mike on October 07, 2017, 12:24:15 PM
"Atlantic Rim" is a thing already

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2740710/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2740710/)

It was a direct-to-video cash-in with CGI that looks like is was done in a high school animation class.

From the same folks that brought you "Independents Day"   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: TheWalrus on October 07, 2017, 12:36:19 PM
Independents sounds like a Pauly Shore movie where the kids bail on the parents or get kicked out and totally fuck up living on their own.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Threash on October 07, 2017, 03:02:54 PM
There was also a Transmorphers.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Sir T on October 07, 2017, 09:20:46 PM
They also did that glowing example of the cinematic art: Titanic 2.

Other examples that I saw on Syfy are "AVH: Alien vs. Hunter" "The Day the Earth Stopped" "The Terminators" "Paranormal Entity" "Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's Sherlock Holmes" which, to be honest, actually wasn't too bad in a sci-fi Sherlock kinda way.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Abagadro on October 08, 2017, 03:11:06 AM
Boyega gets to use his real accent. The fights are in the daytime.  Lots of giant robot melee weapons. Opening day yo.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Merusk on October 09, 2017, 03:19:43 AM
Fights in the day and amping-up the action made it feel like a Power Rangers movie. There should be a bit of a mix.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Teleku on October 09, 2017, 08:24:56 AM
Eh, no point in redoing the first movie over again.  May as well take the concept and ramp it right into high budget power rangers and have fun with it.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Father mike on March 24, 2018, 09:15:09 AM
So, this is out.  I wouldn't have known if I hadn't seen adds for it when the first one was on TV Thursday night.

Reviews are ... not kind.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: MediumHigh on March 24, 2018, 09:19:57 AM
Well this was shit moving along


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: BobtheSomething on March 24, 2018, 08:17:03 PM
I thought it was fun in a cheesy Godzilla Final Wars kind of way.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Soulflame on March 25, 2018, 08:49:53 AM
The takeaway seems to be that if you want to see robots punching monsters, you're gonna have a decent or better time.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Teleku on March 25, 2018, 09:16:52 AM
It didn’t hit the deep artistic depth of the original?  Man.....  :cry:


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 25, 2018, 09:46:37 AM
I think a fair criticism is that they are less mechwarrior physics and more gundam physics in this one which I dislike in live action.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Rendakor on March 25, 2018, 06:08:21 PM
I really don't mind them going more Gundam, since the first one was basically a live-action anime.

To people who disliked this one, did you like the first one?


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Ginaz on March 25, 2018, 06:35:48 PM
The takeaway seems to be that if you want to see robots punching monsters, you're gonna have a decent or better time.

I wanted to see a movie where giant robots fight giant monsters (and sometimes other giant robots) and that's what I got.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Cyrrex on March 25, 2018, 11:30:37 PM

To people who disliked this one, did you like the first one?

This is my question as well.  My oldest son and I went it to the first one and thought it was an awesome giant robots punching giant monsters movie.  Will this not scratch this same itch?


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: MediumHigh on March 26, 2018, 12:55:42 AM

To people who disliked this one, did you like the first one?

This is my question as well.  My oldest son and I went it to the first one and thought it was an awesome giant robots punching giant monsters movie.  Will this not scratch this same itch?

Depends

Do you like transformers for being mostly giant robots fighting giant robots and giant robot dragons?

OR

Do you like the pacific rim 1 for giving you a setting, atmosphere and a general plot that ties the punching monster plot together?

Those who watch anime there is a big differences in the Giant Robot punches stuff genre. Super Robots vs Real Robots. Generally people in the West think that all giant robots are Super Robots, i.e campy romps about magically giant hunks of machinery being shiny and punching the bad guys in the face. Light hearted, mostly family friendly affairs. Think Power Rangers, Voltron, and Transformers etc. The Real Robots genre focuses on making these giant robots a tool of war. Darker tone, less family friendly themes, and a darker atmosphere. The closest we've gotten to that (in the west) is ironically enough the Transformers Movie in the 80s.

Anime fans are not as divided over super robot vs real robot, but we do have our preferences. So when I think Gundam, I have my preferences in the feel and atmosphere established in the U.C (universal century, check out Mobile Suit Gundam: The 08th MS Team) timeline while most of you may think of Gundam is something like Wing, which is definitely a hybrid between the super robot/real robot dynamic but leans heavily on the real robot tropes to drive plot, verse the later entries like Destiny, Seed, 00, which are clearly super robot shows that desperately want to be real robot shows. Something like the michael bay transformers films while I think at first he really did wanted to make something more in line tone wise with the 80s movie.... he also found its easier and way more profitable to make this into a super robot cash cow.

So for people who generally rating this Pacific Rim 2 lower than Pacific Rim 1, its a matter of a tonal shift and also dip in quality between the two movies. You saw real effort to bring this world, its robots, the way they fight and move and how they fit in this world to life. While in Pacific Rim 2 its go go Power RANGERS YOU MIGHTY MORPHIN POWER RANGES OH!!!  :uhrr: Which would be almost fine..... if it was not Pacific Rim. There are shots in this movie that more in common with a Michael Bay Transformers movie than something in the hands of Del Toro. So basically the people who do like it don't mind it going for the super robot aesthetic while everyone else either thinks giants robots are dumb and didn't watch it, or wanted something in the real robot category of giant mecha media and got the power rangers directed by Bay.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 26, 2018, 05:08:52 AM
The 08th MS team is peak Gundam.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Soulflame on March 26, 2018, 08:07:08 AM
No love for Iron-Blooded Orphans?


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 26, 2018, 08:32:39 AM
No love for Iron-Blooded Orphans?

They dropped the ball with the artstyle chasing the flavor of the month anime look so it puts me off a bit.  Thunderbolt is the sweet spot when it comes to art style.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: satael on March 26, 2018, 09:33:17 AM
No love for Iron-Blooded Orphans?
I enjoyed Orphans for going with a darker story  but I have to agree 8th MS is the best Gundam (even though War in a Pocket is the one that feels the most nostalgic for me)


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: MediumHigh on March 26, 2018, 10:52:59 AM
No love for Iron-Blooded Orphans?

Hit or miss for me. The first season I could sit through but the second season...I just couldn't. The show wants to tell a big political plot and like Wing before it, its not that good at it. And that would be ok if that wasn't 60% of the story. I could ramble on, but this isn't the worst thing to happen to anime but at the time there was better things to watch.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Ard on March 26, 2018, 02:52:22 PM
The takeaway seems to be that if you want to see robots punching monsters, you're gonna have a decent or better time.

I wanted to see a movie where giant robots fight giant monsters (and sometimes other giant robots) and that's what I got.

This.  I enjoyed it more than the first movie.  I got exactly what I was expecting to get.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Sir T on March 27, 2018, 02:42:10 AM
I suppose the difference could be classed is "Do the Giant Robits feel like they have Weight and Mass, or are they like 15 year old Gymnasts tossing balloons around?" Becasue for the most part it was the former in Pacific Rim. Havent see the second yet so dunno, but not feeling the vibe.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Ginaz on March 27, 2018, 04:18:36 PM
I suppose the difference could be classed is "Do the Giant Robits feel like they have Weight and Mass, or are they like 15 year old Gymnasts tossing balloons around?" Becasue for the most part it was the former in Pacific Rim. Havent see the second yet so dunno, but not feeling the vibe.

One of the mechs was more agile than the others but it was pointed out early on that being more agile was it's thing.  The other ones moved pretty much the same way as the mechs form the first movie.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: MediumHigh on March 27, 2018, 06:28:00 PM
I suppose the difference could be classed is "Do the Giant Robits feel like they have Weight and Mass, or are they like 15 year old Gymnasts tossing balloons around?" Becasue for the most part it was the former in Pacific Rim. Havent see the second yet so dunno, but not feeling the vibe.

One of the mechs was more agile than the others but it was pointed out early on that being more agile was it's thing.  The other ones moved pretty much the same way as the mechs form the first movie.

 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Phildo on March 28, 2018, 06:18:34 AM
Remember when all we had to nitpick was a giant robot using a cargo ship as a baseball bat?


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Polysorbate80 on March 28, 2018, 04:08:12 PM
Boyega was entertaining, other actors were meh, but it's not like I went expecting an art film.  I would've like more monsters, fewer children.  Unless you consider children to be monsters  :oh_i_see:

I got my matinee ticket's worth of fun.


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Cyrrex on March 29, 2018, 06:51:26 AM
Boyega was entertaining, other actors were meh, but it's not like I went expecting an art film.  I would've like more monsters, fewer children.  Unless you consider children to be monsters  :oh_i_see:

I got my matinee ticket's worth of fun.

Saw it, and this is a good summary.  Was kinda “meh”, would have been better with more monster time. 


Title: Re: Pacific Rim 2
Post by: Hoax on March 29, 2018, 03:08:34 PM
It was good in 3d imax, I'm pretty sure it would have been bad in 2d, felt like the whole damn thing was shot for 3d scenes.

I liked the first one more but this one wasn't nearly as bad as I expected so I was generally pleased. Complaints that the 2nd just didn't have the gravitas of the 1st both in terms of aesthetic, action and I guess world building are legit but I found that to not matter much at all when watching.