f13.net

\o/

Edit: Google is still caching the old IP addresses so things will be a bit weird for a while. You may also need to log in again even you can get here cause things are configured by IP rather than name until Google updates itself.

Is this the room for an argument?

--Dave

tanks
SWG
red pill
something else I've blocked

Corp por

But does it have twitch?

fethers

It doesn't seem to remember the "stay logged in" setting. It's made me log in three times tonight since the changeover.

I had that at first, and Chrome warned me that the login was not secure.

After a hard refresh, I was already logged in and have stayed logged in on several visits since.

Is this where the glass of water got dropped?

Yeah it's from the awkward DNS switch. Once that stabilizes it should go away if you are on 'forums.f13.net'. 'f13.net' also will work to reach the forums but that may mess up the cookie.

What the ever-loving fuck happened to my index view?! 

These changes shall not stand!  Think of the children!  :grin:

(Seriously though, some of the buttons seem to be missing in the white/blue theme).

I'll fix up the other themes shortly.

No, this is abuse.

You runny-nosed git.

 :Love_Letters:

Shadowbane.exe

*atoyot*

lyft to victory

Sorry about blinding people, was trying to fix the broken images and other weird styling issues.

This is doing weird shit for me, but I'll wait until I can be sure it's not ME to moan.

(DNS seems to be still a little wonky and it don't even work on my phone anymore.)

reaching f13 is still very wonky.

On my phone: impossible. I only get DNS resolution errors "Server not found"
On PC 80% of the time it works all the time
Using f13.net works on my phone (although forum landing page shows up) but all links direct to forums.f13.net which doesn't work. So no f13.net on the loogo.

The hex forum is at the top and not the bottom what is this I don't even

lol, yeah that weirded me out too, but I kinda like it.

Change is good.

Yeah it looks like the order in which rows are retrieved without an explicit sort order on this server's version of MySQL is different than the previous server's.

I haven't noticed any differences and have had 0 problems. I'm starting to worry I'm super unobservant.

Yeah, I'm also not seeing a single change?

Can you guys add 'forums.f13.net' to your SSL cert?

It starts like this and before you know it people are voting leave.

I don't think we have moved to the new version yet, just switched servers.

bingo

We will be once all the little wiggles are worked out.

A-ha so that was the reason behind the disturbance. Good job getting back up again (Thumbs up).

We don't have an SSL cert yet. That browser warning is more about the page having mixed hostname content*. If 'forums.f13.net' is working for your DNS use that one instead of 'f13.net'.

* Some combination of 'http://f13.net/', 'http://forums.f13.net/' and 'http://192.169.250.157/' content

I still can't access the site from my mobile devices. Have already deleted all caches and settings but still get "server not found" errors. Curiously enough PC seems fine.

Opposite problem here.  I can't access the site from my home network.  My phone can reach it normally, but only when I'm not home / using my wifi.

Yeah there's still some DNS wonkiness going on. Wednesday I was no longer able to access the site from home but Thursday it was fine again. I blame Google.

The best change is clicking the top banner now takes me to the forum root and not to the home page.

We have a home page?

Don't know what's changed but now it works again. Back to my regular walls of text I guess. :why_so_serious:

I didnt even notice that there was a change \O/

By the way, this forum is black with white text, I dunno what are these newfangled themes that you all are complaining about.

Well now it's back to "server not found" again.

Could you please kick your ISP. They obviously don't know how to DNS. Also f13.net is not reachable via IPv6 (tracert -6) which is something that should not happen in 2017. Kick your ISP for that too.

GoDaddy :awesome_for_real:

The only issue I've had has been that embedded YouTube links don't work now, but it doesn't bother me because I always watch them in a separate Firefox tab anyway.

Then kick them again for good measure  :why_so_serious:

Yeah my hacked in YouTube link pop up thingy is messed up at the moment.

After about two weeks access to f13 is still very flaky. I can now access the site from all of my devices and both from my home internet and mobile internet. The site is inaccessible for hours each day though because of dns errors or server unreachable errors. Drop outs range from a few minutes to several hours and then everything seems to work again.

Sometimes access drops out literally in the middle of browsing or posting.

I get the "server not found" error on my iPhone when using cell data but not at home using wifi.  Rebooting the iPhone usually clears it up, but not always.

Same issue as Jeff. F13 randomly blanks out, after working fine fine just a minute before.

I get this too, exactly this.

Yeah still haven't figured out why it's happening yet. When can get back on my regular comp I'll try increasing the DNS TTL which may make the problem occur less frequently.

If it helps:

- It's definitely a DNS issue, as http://192.169.250.157/ always works
- It seems provider depended, the outages only happen my desktop connection, not with the mobile phone.

Which Is confusing  as DNS is served from the same server as the site. My best guess at the moment is Google or similar DNS service still has a few DNS servers with the wrong IP cached that refuse expire.

Is there any caching at the hosting ISP? GoDaddy's "website accelerator" that may need to be kicked or reset manually?

Is there any unusually large TTL set for the current DNS record, or was there in the past?

Is the apparent absence of an Start of Authority record (https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=a%3awww.f13.net&run=toolpage#) causing problems?

For people who are having problems, what DNS server is being used? Things look OK when I use Comcast's (75.75.75.75) or Google's (8.8.8.8) DNS servers.

I'm with T-Mobile Germany and Telekom Germany (same company) for mobile and landline internet. They use their own DNS servers but are rock solid and reliable most of the time. Didn't have any problems with them for over a decade.

My filthy Irish Internet is having zero problems. I did about a month ago but its eased out fine.

I had a minor problem here is aus yesterday from my mobile, never noticed before.

I haven't been visiting all the time though.

I get exactly the opposite. WiFi won't find it, cellular will. Very weird.

I'm using AT&T cellular but don't know how you can tell the DNS server when using the cell.

I've not had DNS issues from my desktop. I had a case yesterday when using it from my phone, where forums.f3.net did not resolve briefly.

But it still refuses to remember me being logged in, even with the "forever" option set.

Might try deleting all f13.net and/or forums.f13.net cookies and making sure you are on forums.f13.net when signing in.

I love that Friday the 13th has a website called f13game dot com.

What was the origin of the f13 moniker, anyway?

--Dave

It was the shortest domain name I owned at the time.

I changed some stuff in our DNS that may have been causing the issue. The changes, if they do fix the problem, should take effect for most people within 24 hours but some DNS resolvers, especially those used by cellular devices, don't honor TTLs so those may take longer.

Looks like its working. I can waste time (I mean read quality content) from work again.

Seems to work now

Any plans to switch to HTTPS?  It's helped on private forums I've run to prevent spambots and other man-in-the-middle shenanigans.

Well, I turned on admin required approval for all registration sooooo

Also, yes.

This is nothing serious like DNS problems, but something which has changed is that opening a page on f13 using Firefox now creates a blank white page "flash" briefly before loading the new page. Maybe I'm getting more light-sensitive in my dotage, but repeated darkmode-blindme-darkmode has bugged me enough that I now open everything here in new tabs. I get it on both home & work PCs, Windows 7 & 10. Looks like it doesn't happen in Chrome.

I'm not seeing that issue - do you have any addons installed? I do notice a brief white flash during the login process, but not on page load.

I had that exact same problem a few weeks ago. I asked Trippy if anything had changed and he said it must be a problem on my side. It went away on its own after a few days. Maybe there was a Firefox update.

I do have addons installed, but I just restarted in safe mode with them all disabled and the behavior was unchanged. I do have the latest version of 32-bit Firefox (now 53.03) on both machines.

edit: the main ones being Adblock Plus, Flashblock, and Greasemonkey with Anti-Adblock Killer script
edit 2: I manually disabled all three plugins as well as all add-ons and no change

Which version of Firefox?

We haven't changed any of the HTML but the Web server setup is slightly different now.

Occurs on Ubuntu as well, with Firefox 53.0.3 but not 49.0. No plugins or wacky settings since FF isn't my usual browser. It's like it's clearing the whole display before rendering the new page.

TIL that there is an Anti-Adblock Killer script for Greasemonkey....

As for my machines, I have one that is stubbornly requiring a login every visit -- but it's honestly not enough of a hassle for me to even try to troubleshoot yet.

I kinda figured out the white flash on Firefox.  One of the javascripts on the site is loading about:blank for some reason prior to loading the rest of the page.  I want to say its the jquery-1.7.0.min.js file, but I know jack about javascript and can't puzzle out how it is loading about:blank.


This was tested by changing my about:blank background color to bright green and reloading this site.  The white flash became bright green.

Thanks for figuring that part out.