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Title: NFL 2017
Post by: WayAbvPar on March 17, 2017, 03:15:55 PM
New league year, new thread. Off season is too long!


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Sky on March 20, 2017, 03:56:11 PM
I'm now being kept in the loop about trades for the first time ever, because my fiancee signed onto her NFL app as a Pats fan.  :drillf:


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Bungee on March 27, 2017, 02:13:09 PM
I'm now being kept in the loop about trades for the first time ever, because my fiancee signed onto her NFL app as a Pats fan.  :drillf:

I seriously don't know why people even keep working on trades with them. It's like handing the winning guy in Monopoly your fields for half of what it cost to acquire them.
And yes, I'm just jealous.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: HaemishM on March 27, 2017, 02:29:42 PM
So the Bears signed Mark Sanchez, just in case Mike Glennon gets injured or sucks. (Hint: he's going to get injured and/or suck). Sanchize will join the list of a guy who was injured all last year, a guy who lost his starting job by default to Jameis Winston and whoever they will draft (who will eventually be considered a bust).


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on March 27, 2017, 02:31:00 PM
And the Raiders are moving to Vegas.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: HaemishM on March 27, 2017, 02:33:59 PM
Oh yeah, that! They'll be moving in 2019, so Raiders' fans who were psyched about the upward trend of their franchise get to watch 2 years of improvements before the Las Vegas team wins the Super Bowl in their inaugural season in Sheldon Adelson's gilded sweaty old man ball sack of a stadium paid for without almost a billion fucking dollars of taxpayer money.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Phildo on March 27, 2017, 04:28:47 PM
Meanwhile, no one wants to go anywhere near Kaepernick.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on March 27, 2017, 06:09:53 PM
True... I just wish it was because he sucks (he does), but I know it's more about the dumb kneeling thing.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Paelos on March 28, 2017, 12:19:08 PM
Meanwhile, no one wants to go anywhere near Kaepernick.

He's a fringe guy that has to play in a certain system, so that already limits who would want him. Couple that with the baggage and there are better options out there that require little distraction.

But I think it's more of the first part than the second part. The second part of his politics is just the final straw.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Shannow on March 28, 2017, 06:30:43 PM
No one would give a shit about his politics if he could throw for 5000 yards.

NFL bans jumping over line to block kicks.

NFL shoots down rule to push touchbacks to 20 yd line if kicker puts it through the uprights..

NFL continues to hate fun.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Paelos on March 29, 2017, 09:42:48 AM
Upside, the NFL is finally starting to look at the commercial breaks after kickoffs. Fans complained enough about the amount of breaks that they may get less breaks but they'll be longer (I'm fine with this actually).

In my mind there should be longer breaks at the ends of quarters, and longer breaks on change of possession. There should be no breaks after a kickoff, shorter breaks on timeouts.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Sir T on March 29, 2017, 10:24:24 AM
I got interested in the NFL due to these threads so I tried watching ESPN a couple of years ago. I found it totally unwatchable due to the constant fucking ads. Seriously guys.

But I read somewhere that ESPN is in big trouble in any case. It's already one of the most expensive channels out there, so that source of revenue is maxed out, but fees to broadcast games just keep rising due to Greedy NFL owners. And it is bleeding subscribers. It is losing 13% ad revenue year by year according to this article

https://www.fool.com/investing/2016/11/21/espn-subscriber-losses-finally-take-their-toll-at.aspx


In short they may be desperate for money.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Paelos on March 29, 2017, 10:45:53 AM
Part of the reason they are losing subs is that people are cutting the cord on cable and getting ESPN through other providers like streamers.

The other reason is that ESPN is trying desperately to pander to the younger people they are losing, so they have really gotten involved in bullshit thinkpieces and items unrelated to actual sports, and that's driving off their older fanbase.

I used to watch Sportscenter all the time. It's unwatchable garbage now with the terrible talent, the bad storylines, and the fact they refuse to cover teams and instead favor historical nonsense or thinkpieces. I mean the top article right now on ESPN's website is a piece on the 2016 Villanova shot over UNC. Why? We're in the middle of the final four and you're wasting time talking about a shot from a year ago? Or the Gonzaga coach's legacy? Or refs getting death threats from UK fans? WTF?

Compare to a site like CBS Sports (a much better sports site imo) that's looking at NFL Mock Drafts, 2018 QBs, Fantasy sleepers in baseball, Vegas odds on the NCAA, the Raiders moving, etc.

That's sports. Sports people love gambling, fantasy, and current shit in the NFL that projects to the season coming. They aren't looking for fluff about semi-political hot take machines.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Shannow on March 29, 2017, 11:31:35 AM
No one watches Sportscenter, or probably any other highlights on TV nowadays. Of your cable bill like $5 is for ESPN (I forget the exact number but it's the most expensive) which worked 10-15 years ago but now is fucking stupid.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: HaemishM on March 29, 2017, 11:45:30 AM
The ad revenue hit that all sports broadcasters took when the daily fantasy sites pulled back was fucking HUGE. They were spending just a fucking obscene amount of money on ads.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Hoax on March 29, 2017, 11:00:13 PM
ESPN is just fucking up. They have obvious terrible biases. They cancelled Grantland. They keep giving more and more time to sports versions of the worst of cable news channel programming, garbage like First Take and Around the Horn. They are trying to pander to both the right wing radio listening crowd and the sjw millennial and just pissing off both. Doubly stupid considering nobody 35 or younger thinks any cable package is a good deal. They should have stuck to the Sportscenter is an homage to old school trusted news but about sports thing they had for awhile.

ESPN dying will be one of the most justified capitalism deaths since tower records and all those places that didn't stock good used, weren't neighborhood, didn't carry vinyl etc.

fuck em couldn't happen to a bigger bunch of shitlords


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Malakili on March 30, 2017, 06:59:15 AM
Part of the reason they are losing subs is that people are cutting the cord on cable and getting ESPN through other providers like streamers.

The other reason is that ESPN is trying desperately to pander to the younger people they are losing, so they have really gotten involved in bullshit thinkpieces and items unrelated to actual sports, and that's driving off their older fanbase.

I used to watch Sportscenter all the time. It's unwatchable garbage now with the terrible talent, the bad storylines, and the fact they refuse to cover teams and instead favor historical nonsense or thinkpieces. I mean the top article right now on ESPN's website is a piece on the 2016 Villanova shot over UNC. Why? We're in the middle of the final four and you're wasting time talking about a shot from a year ago? Or the Gonzaga coach's legacy? Or refs getting death threats from UK fans? WTF?

Compare to a site like CBS Sports (a much better sports site imo) that's looking at NFL Mock Drafts, 2018 QBs, Fantasy sleepers in baseball, Vegas odds on the NCAA, the Raiders moving, etc.

That's sports. Sports people love gambling, fantasy, and current shit in the NFL that projects to the season coming. They aren't looking for fluff about semi-political hot take machines.

Maybe we don't use the word thinkpieces the same, but certainly haven't seen much out of ESPN that makes me think. It's sensational nonsense almost all the time. The actual longform thinkpieces are published on things like The Undefeated, which get almost no play time on ESPN. Their website is an atrocity, the cable channel is mostly unwatchable.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Paelos on March 30, 2017, 08:51:55 AM
Maybe we don't use the word thinkpieces the same, but certainly haven't seen much out of ESPN that makes me think. It's sensational nonsense almost all the time. The actual longform thinkpieces are published on things like The Undefeated, which get almost no play time on ESPN. Their website is an atrocity, the cable channel is mostly unwatchable.

I use thinkpieces meaning the intent was to make you think, but they fail hard at that. Trying to read their retrospective of the UNC/Nova 2016 game is awful.

Deadspin went the same way as ESPN and went from funny/agressive/sports stuff to a full on sensational nonsense political site with some sports on the side.

I honestly don't understand WTF happened to these places, or who let these idiot writers/anchors/producers take over. It will bury them all catering to a small subset of sports fans. The vast majority of sports people I follow want nothing to do with politics and will go out of their way to remove/block/unfollow any writer or analyst who can't remember that they aren't a CNN opinion writer and they are supposed to be covering a sports league.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on March 30, 2017, 10:13:47 AM
Maybe we don't use the word thinkpieces the same, but certainly haven't seen much out of ESPN that makes me think. It's sensational nonsense almost all the time. The actual longform thinkpieces are published on things like The Undefeated, which get almost no play time on ESPN. Their website is an atrocity, the cable channel is mostly unwatchable.

I use thinkpieces meaning the intent was to make you think, but they fail hard at that. Trying to read their retrospective of the UNC/Nova 2016 game is awful.

Deadspin went the same way as ESPN and went from funny/agressive/sports stuff to a full on sensational nonsense political site with some sports on the side.

I honestly don't understand WTF happened to these places, or who let these idiot writers/anchors/producers take over. It will bury them all catering to a small subset of sports fans. The vast majority of sports people I follow want nothing to do with politics and will go out of their way to remove/block/unfollow any writer or analyst who can't remember that they aren't a CNN opinion writer and they are supposed to be covering a sports league.

They are just following the guide laid out by for-profit news - editorials and opinion pieces get clicks. Click here to ask me how.  :why_so_serious:

I loved ESPN in college (mid-90s). Sportcenter on repeat all morning made it easy to catch 15minutes here and there. Then the talking head shows started and I tuned out.

Come to think of it, I loved Mtv in the 80s until they started attempting to be a tv channel by slowly removing the M.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Sir T on March 31, 2017, 05:10:52 AM
At least that gave us Celebrity Death Match!  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: DevilsAdvocate25 on April 03, 2017, 07:01:42 PM
Meanwhile, no one wants to go anywhere near Kaepernick.

He's a fringe guy that has to play in a certain system, so that already limits who would want him. Couple that with the baggage and there are better options out there that require little distraction.

But I think it's more of the first part than the second part. The second part of his politics is just the final straw.

In his 6th year in the league, after coming back from surgery on his non-throwing shoulder that ended his previous season, he had the following stats in 12 games played:

Passing Yds 2,241 (3rd highest of his career)
Passing TDs 16 (3rd highest of his career)
Ints 4 (2nd lowest of his career)
QB RTG 90.7 (3rd highest of his career)

In the two seasons where he exceeded these numbers, he played in 4 more games.

It's not his stats or gameplay that are keeping him from getting a contract.

I wonder if he saw this coming ... (http://www.complex.com/sports/2017/03/colin-kaepernick-saw-this-coming)


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: HaemishM on April 03, 2017, 09:12:38 PM
Yeah, I didn't realize how good his numbers were last year, probably because he was on a shit team with a Mr. Potatohead as a coach. On a team with actual talent and/or coaching, he might be pretty good.

But yeah, it's pretty clear no one is going to touch him because of his politics.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: WayAbvPar on April 03, 2017, 11:49:03 PM
I love how violent shitstains like Ray Lewis and Greg Hardy could find continued employment, but god forbid someone do something LEGAL that offends all the white old conservative fuckheads that run teams in the NFL.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Cyrrex on April 04, 2017, 12:11:35 AM
Yeah, I kind of dislike how I feel compelled to side with Kap (as a Seattle fan) and even hope he finds a job.  Dude was already in a rough spot, and then had the guts to make a stand on something he must have known would make his life even more difficult.  I respect that, whatever his real motives.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Malakili on April 04, 2017, 07:04:20 AM
Quote from: Paelos
The vast majority of sports people I follow want nothing to do with politics and will go out of their way to remove/block/unfollow any writer or analyst who...

I have no problem if people cover sports and politics together in principle. Politics doesn't magically disappear in stadiums and arenas, as much as some people wish it did. You especially can't say it does when the NFL builds nationalism into the pregame show. What i have problem with is shitty political opinions from uninformed idiots who think they know what they are talking about b cause they are a celebrity and with stupid sensationalism. Kaepernick isn't the problem.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Paelos on April 04, 2017, 09:13:20 AM
In his 6th year in the league, after coming back from surgery on his non-throwing shoulder that ended his previous season, he had the following stats in 12 games played:

Passing Yds 2,241 (3rd highest of his career)
Passing TDs 16 (3rd highest of his career)
Ints 4 (2nd lowest of his career)
QB RTG 90.7 (3rd highest of his career)

In the two seasons where he exceeded these numbers, he played in 4 more games.

It's not his stats or gameplay that are keeping him from getting a contract.

I wonder if he saw this coming ... (http://www.complex.com/sports/2017/03/colin-kaepernick-saw-this-coming)

Which sounds good on paper until you remember one facet, his Y/A averages was 24th in the league, and behind guys like Tyrod Taylor and Case Keenum. Even more than that, his yards per game was 30th in the league. His completion percentage was 26th, and he's in an offense where once he goes further than 10 yards down the field, his completion percentage drops into the 30s.

The problem with Kaep is he's got zero down the field threat, and he's not accurate. Period. Numbers aside, anybody with eyeballs can tell you this by watching him play. It ABSOLUTELY is his gameplay that's keeping him on the sidelines, because if he was really a top 20 QB, the NFL has enough desperate teams looking for even half-decent mouthbreather QBs to snap him up.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Bungee on April 04, 2017, 09:14:53 AM
So Romo retiring into broadcasting.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Shannow on April 04, 2017, 09:16:45 AM
I was surprised, and then realised he's 37. Good for him. Get paid to sit in a booth and talk about football? Instead of getting the shit beaten out of your body every Sunday? Good for you sir.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Paelos on April 04, 2017, 09:20:16 AM
Quote from: Paelos
The vast majority of sports people I follow want nothing to do with politics and will go out of their way to remove/block/unfollow any writer or analyst who...

I have no problem if people cover sports and politics together in principle. Politics doesn't magically disappear in stadiums and arenas, as much as some people wish it did. You especially can't say it does when the NFL builds nationalism into the pregame show. What i have problem with is shitty political opinions from uninformed idiots who think they know what they are talking about b cause they are a celebrity and with stupid sensationalism. Kaepernick isn't the problem.

Kaep is a problem only that his opinions come off as uninformed as well. But he's the smaller of the issues, and frankly he has every right just like others to spout uninformed or biased political opinion.

I agree with the sensationalism of the issue by the media being the bigger issue. What I don't like more than anything is that Sports Writers who are hired to specifically cover a league start to play board warrior on twitter and then act like they are doing some great selfless deed.

There's nothing to stop those same writers from creating their own personal accounts and spouting their opinions there, but they know they won't get as much reach doing that, so they force it down the throats of their followers until people like myself grudgingly unfollow. And I'm not talking about one-off stories, I'm talking about making everything in sports a political issue.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on April 04, 2017, 10:03:12 AM
I was surprised, and then realised he's 37. Good for him. Get paid to sit in a booth and talk about football? Instead of getting the shit beaten out of your body every Sunday? Good for you sir.

Seriously. Good choice IMHO. I'm sure he'd love a shot at starting again, but a nice booth seat to sit and talk and get $$$? hell yeah, especially with his third kid due up soon. Now I am just hoping he's better than Simms... which is a low bar to start out with.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: WayAbvPar on April 04, 2017, 10:22:55 AM
Romo is going to be very good in the booth or on set. It may take him some adjustment, but he has the charisma to pull it off. One of the few Cowboys I have liked =P


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: HaemishM on April 04, 2017, 10:40:44 AM
Romo will be a good broadcaster. He's very likable - for someone to have been on the Cowboys that long and me not hate them, he's got to be charming and personable.

His retirement is going to fuck the shit out of the Texans, though. I'm pretty sure they traded Brock Lobster with the sole thought that they'd win the Romo sweepstakes. Now they have to figure out someway to make a combination of Tom Savage, BRANDON WEEDON and a draft pick work on an offense that hasn't seen a good QB since Matt Schaub. I'm sure they thought they were getting the next Peyton Manning. At least Denver didn't trade away the guy who was at least a competent starter.

Of course, Houston could always sign Cutler.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on April 04, 2017, 11:50:44 AM
Well, Cutler is at least serviceable and has a huge arm.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: HaemishM on April 04, 2017, 12:18:33 PM
I guess. I mean if you are going to look at Cutler, you might as well give Kap a try. He's younger and more mobile.

But yeah, Kap would NEVER get a shot in Houston.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: TheWalrus on April 04, 2017, 02:13:47 PM
Yup. Romo threw in the towel.









It was intercepted.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Cyrrex on April 05, 2017, 12:27:10 AM
Good for him.  Like Haemish said, must be a pretty good dude for me not to instinctively hate him.

Cutler to Houston kinda makes sense.

Kap needs to go somewhere with a more liberal fan base, but right now I am struggling to determine if there really is such a thing in the NFL.  Too bad there is no London franchise yet.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Shannow on April 05, 2017, 09:56:35 AM
I'm gonna guess that football is the most right wing of the 4 major sports.  Ain't gonna find a liberal fan base. Maybe he could take up soccer? :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on April 05, 2017, 10:23:53 AM
Yeah I am pretty sure Kaep was already in the most liberal part of the country.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Rasix on April 05, 2017, 10:36:44 AM
He might be best served by going to the CFL for a couple seasons. Keeping his skills sharp in a geographic area that probably doesn't give a fuck.

The sports media and especially ESPN really fucked this up for him. Every game there was so much focus on who was going to stand/sit/kneel for something for an aspect of the game that most of us never think about. Sure, it got the message out, but they also made sure that he was focal point of where it all went back to. And it just kept going, it was like the NFL equivalent of Benghazi.



Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: jgsugden on April 05, 2017, 07:56:06 PM
Kaep's 'stance' on the anthem is the third biggest reason he doesn't have a gig right now.  #1: He wants to be a starter.  #2: Nobody thinks he is talented enough to start for them.  You have to build an offense around a guy like Kaep and nobody wants to build that offense around a guy that flakey.  I think a desperate team could sign Kaep, RG III and Johnny Football - not to try to be successful, but to try to cash in and  have 3 cheap QBs that can run that brutal offense - maybe enough to last the season.  However, I do not see any team that desperate.  You'd need a really bad team with no plan at QB that was trying to make money while tanking so that they could get an early pick for a qb.  You'd need that team to have a coach that was locked in enough that he knew he was not going to be fired for a bad season.  You'd need a fanbase dumb enough to buy the junk and think Kaep, RG III and Johnny Football might have something to offer.   I just don't see it. 


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Paelos on April 06, 2017, 08:17:57 AM
I'm gonna guess that football is the most right wing of the 4 major sports.  Ain't gonna find a liberal fan base. Maybe he could take up soccer? :oh_i_see:

I think it would be a close battle between NFL and MLB. Baseball people are far majority white, older, and absolutely hate changes.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: TheWalrus on April 06, 2017, 02:17:31 PM
Kaep needs to swallow his pride and go for a back position. Dude can run like nobody's business, but can't make a decision under pressure to save his life.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Cyrrex on April 06, 2017, 11:23:41 PM
I dunno, it seems what happens with a lot of these running QBs is that they establish themselves early as pretty good dual threats where their running ability more than makes up for lack of ability in the pocket.  Then the regime decides they have to start protecting their star, and the first thing they do is limit the spontaneous running and even a lot of the designed runs.  Which doesn't usually work for extremely obvious reasons.  Early Russel Wilson would have been another example, except that it turns out he pretty capable in the pocket (it still drives me crazy that they have taken all the designed runs out of the playbook).  RG3 is an even better example, because we all saw how physically and mentally fragile he was one he was no longer able to run past everyone.

Early Kaepernick was dangerous as a QB because he could run like a fucking cheetah.  He has not lost that ability.  Somebody could make use of that, if only they could invest the money and then not worry so much about protecting it.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Sir T on April 14, 2017, 04:52:12 PM
Not sure how much anyone cares but the Jury acquited ex-Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez in his double-murder trial.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19159319/jury-acquits-ex-new-england-patriots-tight-end-aaron-hernandez-double-murder-trial


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Shannow on April 14, 2017, 06:27:48 PM
Thankfully he still will rot in jail for life for his other murder conviction.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Bungee on April 19, 2017, 10:21:57 AM
Thankfully he still will rot in jail for life for his other murder conviction.

He apparently just committed suicide. (http://deadspin.com/aaron-hernandez-commits-suicide-in-prison-cell-1794445345)


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: TheWalrus on April 19, 2017, 10:43:37 AM
No, he's just out with a neck injury.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Cyrrex on April 19, 2017, 11:02:53 PM
Normally that would have been a "too soon" kind of joke, but for this guy...yeah. 


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: HaemishM on April 20, 2017, 09:16:42 AM
Yeah, I am not at all sad for his passing, nor all that bothered by hanging jokes. He was a piece of shit.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: WayAbvPar on April 20, 2017, 12:21:38 PM
He should have had to rot in jail. As is usual for pussies who need a gun to feel like a man, he took the easy way out.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Sir T on April 20, 2017, 03:46:31 PM
It gets better, and we might need a thread for "ridiculous celeb lawsuits," or something.

Aaron Hernandez’s Brain Being Held ‘Illegally’ by Medical Examiner: Lawyer (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/aaron-hernandez/aaron-hernandez-s-brain-being-held-illegally-medical-examiner-lawyer-n749011?cid=eml_nbn_20170420)


Insert joke about Tom Bradys brain here.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on April 27, 2017, 09:01:54 AM
As a Browns fan, this is the most wonderful part of the year!  :ye_gods:

And so help me god if they take Trubisky @ 1. If this happens, I will be forced to go out and buy a Steelers sweatshirt because I can't deal with another wasted 5 years.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: TheWalrus on April 27, 2017, 11:06:31 AM
Happy for Lynch. He's gettin to do what he wants. Good for him.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on April 27, 2017, 07:45:21 PM
Whew... thank god I don't have to do anything drastic.

And WTF Chicago?  :uhrr:


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Azuredream on April 27, 2017, 08:38:57 PM
Chicago  :ye_gods:

The Browns trade down, as is tradition. They at least got a big bounty for it, but I feel like we always stockpile picks and then do nothing with them.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on April 27, 2017, 09:12:28 PM
Chicago  :ye_gods:

The Browns trade down, as is tradition. They at least got a big bounty for it, but I feel like we always stockpile picks and then do nothing with them.

Next draft the Browns have 2 First round picks and 3 second rounders... that is insane to me.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: HaemishM on April 27, 2017, 09:26:25 PM
Yeah, I'm not sure what Chicgao was doing grabbing Trubisky that high. The Texans picked up Watson so we should see a fantastic flameout by the end of the season, as they waste yet another year of great defense on a suspect QB.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on April 28, 2017, 06:50:52 AM
I'm not sure how to feel after that first round. Is this what it feels like to have a good draft? Should I just be a traditional Browns fan and wait for the other shoe to drop?

For now, I'm quite happy with the picks. Hope Peppers turns into the Cleveland version of Polamalu. And moving up for the kid from Miami? Jury is still out given how young he is, but still... second best TE in the draft? I'll take it on behalf of the Cleveland fans.  :grin:


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Cyrrex on April 28, 2017, 08:04:13 AM
Having a great draft doesn't take away from the fact that you're still Cleveland.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Shannow on April 28, 2017, 08:42:18 AM
Are the Bears the new Browns? holy fuck why do teams still do this shit.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on April 28, 2017, 08:48:02 AM
Having a great draft doesn't take away from the fact that you're still Cleveland.

BAD FORM!! Cleveland only has the draft, at least give us this. We can start the melee on them when preseason starts.  :grin:


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: HaemishM on April 28, 2017, 11:37:16 AM
Are the Bears the new Browns? holy fuck why do teams still do this shit.

Yeah, I'm not sure what they were thinking trading 3 picks to move up 1 slot for a QB that everyone agrees is still a developmental prospect. But hey, they have Mike Glennon!


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Trippy on April 28, 2017, 12:12:31 PM
That the Niners weren't even going to take, though obviously the Bears couldn't have known that for sure.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on April 28, 2017, 03:29:20 PM
That the Niners weren't even going to take, though obviously the Bears couldn't have known that for sure.


Think the Bears were worried about the other teams trading up for him rather than SF taking the titty kisser.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Phildo on June 10, 2017, 10:26:54 AM
In other Cleveland news, they cut a safety only a few hours before he threw out the first pitch at an Indians game. (http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19591409/cleveland-browns-cut-tyvis-powell-hours-throwing-first-pitch-cleveland-indians-game)


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Sir T on August 02, 2017, 07:51:57 PM
IT HAS BEGUN!!

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks-2017-san-francisco-49ers-1797328541


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Shannow on August 02, 2017, 08:27:32 PM
In regards to the 49ers lets just say I might've been at a charity event in the Silicon Valley area where the only item that couldn't get a bid was a 49ers tailgate and ticket package. All with York in attendance.
 :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Trippy on August 02, 2017, 08:41:42 PM
In the 17 years that the Yorks have been in control we've had 5 winning seasons. Even those of us who came of age during the glory years are used to the Niners sucking now.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: 01101010 on August 03, 2017, 05:12:15 AM
In the 17 years that the Yorks have been in control we've had 5 winning seasons. Even those of us who came of age during the glory years are used to the Niners sucking now.


Please, tell me more...  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Paelos on August 04, 2017, 09:20:18 AM
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This February, the Falcons played the worst half in American sports history and the 49ers just hired the guy responsible for it.

All true, and they are about to learn the hard way he's a worse asshole than Jim Harbaugh could ever hope to be. Because Harbaugh had some redeeming qualities and his shit-kicking shenanigans could actually be funny at times. Shanny's shenanigans are crude and tragic.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: HaemishM on August 04, 2017, 11:20:44 AM
Plus, Harbaugh had proven he could win (albeit in college) as a head coach, whereas Kyle has been an OC that has bounced around several shitty teams and only has his dad's successes and Atlanta's run to the Super Bowl as evidence of his coaching skills.


Title: Re: NFL 2017
Post by: Paelos on August 04, 2017, 12:35:06 PM
Plus, Harbaugh had proven he could win (albeit in college) as a head coach, whereas Kyle has been an OC that has bounced around several shitty teams and only has his dad's successes and Atlanta's run to the Super Bowl as evidence of his coaching skills.

And Atlanta's run is based on the biggest pile of flukey bullshit ever. They ran it up on teams with shit defenses, and played tight games to the finish with mediocre opponents. The difference in the end? They were healthy completely across the team, where teams like Seattle and Green Bay were shells of their former selves. When they got to Brady, it was only a matter of time until the soft underbelly of their terrible defense was exposed.

The hilarious thing is the entire city believes now they have the best roster in the league and can make it back to the Super Bowl. It's laughable. They are one offensive line injury away from complete disaster. They have ZERO depth, and they are fighting with one of their RBs over a contract. Matt Ryan has the absolute pinnacle best year of his career by a passer rating margin of 18 points. That shit is NOT REPEATABLE.