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Title: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Khaldun on July 23, 2016, 07:51:59 PM So. I think maybe there will be a trailer for this soon, because they showed one at Comic-Con.
They have revealed who Star-Lord's father is (played by Kurt Russell). Um. Wow. It's hilarious and actually I can see it working. Totally not (to me at least) expected. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: HaemishM on July 23, 2016, 10:04:01 PM That... is... AWESOME.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Lakov_Sanite on July 23, 2016, 11:27:57 PM Never in a million years could I have guessed that and yet it exceeds all expectations.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Strazos on July 24, 2016, 12:09:01 AM I just want to know how the beat the opening of the first movie, which was just perfect.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: WayAbvPar on July 24, 2016, 04:19:46 PM Can't wait!
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Velorath on December 03, 2016, 03:58:37 PM New trailer looks great of course. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW1BIid8Osg)
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Trippy on December 03, 2016, 04:13:02 PM Mantis wasn't quite what I was expecting.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Khaldun on December 03, 2016, 07:20:23 PM This is looking (expectedly) great.
Lightning in a bottle twice. Hooray for James Gunn! Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: HaemishM on December 03, 2016, 07:57:17 PM I couldn't stop smiling while watching the whole thing. :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real:
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Ruvaldt on December 03, 2016, 08:52:52 PM This is what I was looking forward to the most in 2017 and the trailer only confirms my best hopes. :drill:
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Teleku on December 03, 2016, 11:55:39 PM Awesome. I love how they are doubling down on Drax's personality. :awesome_for_real:
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Khaldun on February 06, 2017, 04:03:31 AM Super Bowl spot was fun.
"Look out!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaLNiC-bKHQ&feature=youtu.be Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Speedy Cerviche on February 06, 2017, 09:04:24 AM Kurt Russel better be wearing an eye patch.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Trippy on February 06, 2017, 11:25:53 AM I was expecting them to play Superstar from Jesus Christ Superstar there at the beginning. Also I just realized that Baby Groot rides on Rocket's shoulder the same way Rocket used to ride on Groot's shoulder.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: RhyssaFireheart on February 06, 2017, 02:44:29 PM That was fabulous!
I didn't catch the shoulder riding reversal either, but it's so adorable! Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Father mike on February 28, 2017, 11:21:16 PM New trailer. Getting a bit spoilerish, but still incredibly fun looking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duGqrYw4usE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duGqrYw4usE) Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Merusk on March 17, 2017, 05:44:47 AM Rocket & Groot webseires to be released with all episodes to be available by April 10th. It's full Groot, not baby Groot.
The first episode is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzbhK2KVxls http://www.blastr.com/2017-3-14/marvel-made-rocket-groot-web-series-and-you-can-watch-it-right-here?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=groot_pilot&utm_term=genre_interest&utm_content=link_ad Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Ironwood on April 30, 2017, 12:06:09 PM Yeah, this was great. Go see it.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Velorath on May 04, 2017, 02:28:19 AM Yeah, this was great. Go see it. I agree, I really enjoyed it. I did have one small issue with the movie though in that they felt the need to spell out every single character arc. There are about a dozen monologues in this movie where characters have to detail either their or another character's driving motivation or character flaw that will get worked out through the course of the movie. It's not a huge issue, it just felt like a result of the expanded cast and trying to manage their screen time and giving them all a purpose in the movie. I know GOTG isn't really about "subtle" but a lot of that dialogue is just really on the nose. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Threash on May 04, 2017, 07:48:41 PM So good. They can fuck right the fuck off with their motherfucking six post credit scenes though. Also why was Jeff Goldblum on one of the bubbles of the cast dancing during the credits? not that i mind.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Merusk on May 04, 2017, 08:50:03 PM Probably was around filming for Thor and dropped in to film that.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: schild on May 04, 2017, 08:58:07 PM if you can get jeff goldblum
you use jeff goldblum Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Pennilenko on May 05, 2017, 03:50:14 AM if you can get jeff goldblum you use jeff goldblum Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Velorath on May 05, 2017, 06:12:44 AM So good. They can fuck right the fuck off with their motherfucking six post credit scenes though. Also why was Jeff Goldblum on one of the bubbles of the cast dancing during the credits? not that i mind. Honestly, if I'm going to sit through the credits for a sequence at the end you might as well spread 5 of them in there instead to break the credits up a bit. Between the multiple scenes, the music, and the general look of the credits I think this is the first time I didn't feel like I was suffering through 7 minutes of credits for a 10 second scene. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Lakov_Sanite on May 05, 2017, 07:17:08 AM Great movie and I agree, the credit sequence dance-off was actually entertaining in itself.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: jgsugden on May 05, 2017, 10:28:34 PM My only regret is not being able to see what was cut. They cut some Earth scenes... and not yet knowing if that team in the end Credits will actually get some real screen time.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Merusk on May 06, 2017, 04:52:26 AM While I enjoyed it I felt the first was better and this one was Too busy and frenetic. Like they had two movies that were crammed into this one so it could never pause for the character development/ motivation, it had to come as exposition. My only other critique was a few jokes felt forced to get a callback rather than organic.
Still a good time though. Worth the viewing. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: HaemishM on May 06, 2017, 09:07:27 PM I actually thought it was better than the first. It was visually stunning. Gunn really went for the over saturated colors to differentiate the cosmic movies and it worked (didn't hurt that I saw it in the non-3D XD). You can see from the Thor trailer that this is a conscious choice both on the director's part and the Marvel Studios part. I can see what you mean about the exposition parts - they stuck out a little bit but I didn't mind them. What they were telling was stuff that would have taken a good bit to explain without the exposition and I'm not sure it would have been important enough to waste the time on. The Easter Eggs and post-credits stuff was fantastic, especially Howard the Duck's appearance and teen Groot.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Threash on May 07, 2017, 07:56:31 AM Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Khaldun on May 07, 2017, 02:37:15 PM Re the "Ravagers"
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Brolan on May 07, 2017, 03:48:59 PM I thought it was better than first one as well. The whole tongue-in-check tone of the movie hit me as just right. And I laughed out loud a number of times in the theater, which doesn't happen often with me.
And the thing with Thanos (sp?) that's the link to the Avenger's move, right? Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Mandella on May 07, 2017, 04:20:42 PM So good. They can fuck right the fuck off with their motherfucking six post credit scenes though. Also why was Jeff Goldblum on one of the bubbles of the cast dancing during the credits? not that i mind. Honestly, if I'm going to sit through the credits for a sequence at the end you might as well spread 5 of them in there instead to break the credits up a bit. Between the multiple scenes, the music, and the general look of the credits I think this is the first time I didn't feel like I was suffering through 7 minutes of credits for a 10 second scene. I agree. This was maybe the first credits scroll that I wasn't wishing would hurry up so we could just get to the stinger. Also, damn fine movie. And surprisingly I think Drax was my favorite character this time around. A note to those with younger kids -- this movie has some dark and scary scenes, so be advised. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: jgsugden on May 07, 2017, 04:25:30 PM Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Comstar on May 08, 2017, 03:41:03 AM A good movie. Once again MARVEL shows how bad DC is at what they are doing. I thought the director was pretty good at keeping all the balls juggling and my favourite character was the Ravanger .
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Khaldun on May 08, 2017, 04:20:03 AM He's also played by James Gunn's brother!
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Merusk on May 08, 2017, 07:04:29 AM A good movie. Once again MARVEL shows how bad DC is at what they are doing. When you are nothing but ashamed of your source material you can never, ever make a good movie/ TV series/ Comic. This has been DC's flaw for a long time when it comes to their properties. Not just the corporate bloat of being owned by WB but someone in the chain being embarrassed by 'these damn comics' and making stupid, flawed decisions. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Threash on May 08, 2017, 07:13:22 AM A good movie. Once again MARVEL shows how bad DC is at what they are doing. I thought the director was pretty good at keeping all the balls juggling and my favourite character was the Ravanger . He wasn't just a red shirt though, he's been the funny ravager since the first movie. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Mandella on May 08, 2017, 07:32:24 AM He's also played by James Gunn's brother! And he's also Rocket's on set stand in. Dude was busy in this movie. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: HaemishM on May 08, 2017, 08:43:37 AM He's also played by James Gunn's brother! Yeah I told my buddy that today and he was surprised. Those two really look alike and I'm actually kind of shocked that the guy did such a good job with that role. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Samwise on May 08, 2017, 11:22:47 AM I also endorse this movie. Honestly not sure whether I like 1 or 2 better; I feel like they each had strengths and weaknesses relative to one another. As others have said, my biggest complaint about this one would be the exposition needed to explain all the character arcs, but the fact that every character had an arc was pretty cool since most movies can't seem to manage even one of those.
One of my favorite moments in the movie might have been Yondu zipping up after (implicitly) fucking a sex robot. It was actually kinda heartbreaking and I was surprised to see a scene like that in one of the more kid-oriented Marvel movies. I really liked the Sovereign. They fit a similar role of "nerdy antagonist that is not a serious threat" that the Nova Core did for much of the first movie, but I thought they were way more entertaining and I'm glad it looks like we'll be getting more of them. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: TheWalrus on May 08, 2017, 12:37:03 PM Really great movie, loved every bit of it. But this is F13, so I'm going to bitch about how Kurt shouldn't have melted into sandlike shit at the end since he was composed of actual organic matter. This ruined the whole movie for me.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: jgsugden on May 08, 2017, 01:56:33 PM Really great movie, loved every bit of it. But this is F13, so I'm going to bitch about how Kurt shouldn't have melted into sandlike shit at the end since he was composed of actual organic matter. This ruined the whole movie for me. There we go! Thanks for bringing this thread home.Sean Gunn is a pretty solid character actor. He did great work in shows like Gilmore Girls. I don't think his role in GotG 3 will be bigger than his role was in this movie. He'll be there, he'll have some good moments - some of which he may knock out of the park - but he won't be a Guardian. He'll be a foil and support character. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: SurfD on May 08, 2017, 11:29:46 PM Really great movie, loved every bit of it. But this is F13, so I'm going to bitch about how Kurt shouldn't have melted into sandlike shit at the end since he was composed of actual organic matter. This ruined the whole movie for me. Maybe, maybe not.The final showdown scene occurs after Ego has hastily assembled a new body after Rocket pretty much obliterated his "original" one by landing mining pod on it. Like, literally built a brand new body in about a minute. It may very well be "organic matter" but we have absolutely no idea if it really needs to obey any of our established ideas about how it should behave, since it is basically created and maintained by a gigantic super-telekinetic god-brain-thing. I mean, in all honesty, nitpicking about the body disintegrating in an unusual fashion is about as dumb as asking why the planet had to explode just because we turned off the brain that built it. It's been rock solid matter for eons. Ego made rocks. Why exactly should those rocks explode or disintegrate just because he is no longer around to keep an eye on them? Personally, I loved the movie. If I had to pick any one thing to nitpick about, it would be the fact that nobody bothered to question why Ego looked human. Ego made a body. Ego set off to discover if there was any other intelligent life in the universe. Somehow Ego made a body that looked exactly like a human WAYYYYY before he ever possibly could have seen one? How did none of them manage to pick up on that gigantic gaping flaw in his monologue? The best part is where he doesn't even adjust the display simulation during monologue part 2 when he is depicting himself hooking up with all the other alien races. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Lakov_Sanite on May 09, 2017, 06:04:51 AM It's fun to imagine Kurt Russel banging the entire galaxy.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Rishathra on May 09, 2017, 06:10:28 AM Yeah, I was also wondering how he knew to make himself look human, but the image of Kurt Russell cutting a swath through the galaxy's babes is hilarious.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Bungee on May 09, 2017, 06:26:03 AM Yeah, I was also wondering how he knew to make himself look human, but the image of Kurt Russell cutting a swath through the galaxy's babes is hilarious. He didn't know. He said in his monologue that's what he imagined life to look like. And given that pretty much everything in that Universe looks very humanoid he had a good hunch I guess. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Lakov_Sanite on May 09, 2017, 06:58:04 AM Well to be honest it's obvious ego had Peter last which likely means his very first form was nothing even close to human, the images were all for Peter's benefit and while it doesn't seem like ego explicitly lied it sounded like he was saying things out of order or just omitting large swaths of info, something an egotistical god might do.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Khaldun on May 09, 2017, 07:20:28 AM Yeah, I think at that point in the conversation, he's still very much needing to get Peter set up for his role, so why not flatter and fast-talk him? If Ego had created hundreds of different bodies for banging females, that might immediately be a danger signal to Peter--wait, so my mom is the only one you fell in love with? the only one who had a kid with you? But if he just made one body and set off to encounter life, that's flattering enough to be distracting.
Also on Mantis: Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: NowhereMan on May 09, 2017, 08:24:06 AM re Mantis
And it seemed clear Ego was trying to flatter Peter. It's less clear whether he did actually have some sort of feelings for Peter's mother, more likely he is played as the kind of con-man who half persuades himself his lies are true and gives himself a plausible motivation for doing pretty much the opposite of what he says Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Samwise on May 09, 2017, 11:02:06 AM I go with the "supreme egotist" motive. He had an identity crisis and resolved it by doing that rather than changing his identity.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: NowhereMan on May 09, 2017, 02:46:05 PM Honestly it could be either but I appreciate that, even in a relatively dumb popcorn movie with some seriously on the nose character development moments, the writers left enough room for the actor to leave multiple plausible motivations. It's one little aspect I think WB should take a away and wonder why, with their super serious, gritty and realistic take on Zod, Guardians of the Galaxy II, a movie featuring a baby tree creature, managed a more nuanced and human villain than they did. I mean far more cartoonish and ridiculous but somehow still more complex.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Abagadro on May 09, 2017, 02:56:45 PM On the 'being humanoid' bit it was pretty funny that during his big monologue the little diorama changed and showed the same young Curt Russell figure in the red jacket making out with all manner of non-humanoid aliens.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Samwise on May 09, 2017, 03:08:43 PM I mean, we have established that Star-Lord has banged a lot of alien chicks, so clearly that's not a thing that's unheard of. But yeah I think that was for his benefit.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Abagadro on May 09, 2017, 05:12:56 PM I actually think it was a bit of a joke by the filmmakers.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: HaemishM on May 09, 2017, 07:15:01 PM The filmmakers are geniuses. Not only did they make a talking racoon and a talking mono-lined tree the most endearing characters in the first movie, they somehow made a living planet with a giant face on it work onscreen and not be utterly ridiculous. That's just brilliant work.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Riggswolfe on May 09, 2017, 07:19:42 PM I saw this tonight and enjoyed it. My one major complaint, that most of you share, is that the writing was clumsy with all the exposition.
Character 1: Let me explain your arc character 2 Character 2: Wow...you're right! Thank you character 1! Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Khaldun on May 09, 2017, 07:28:56 PM Yeah. I think they worked a bit hard on giving everyone an arc. It's ok to have some characters be the C-3P0, etc.--background, comic relief, etc. I get that it was all about family though. Raccoon felt to me the most forced of them--he could just be kind of an asshole and they could leave it at that.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Samwise on May 09, 2017, 07:44:29 PM I just now realized that Yondu ended up acting as a father figure to both Star-Lord and Rocket. Which kinda makes them brothers. I think that's awwww.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: SurfD on May 10, 2017, 12:22:47 AM Something else that just popped into my head after catching the second Ego / Peter dialogue again at work: Peter never knew his father, right? As in, from what we know, Ego had never made an appearance in his life after Peter was born, since Peter claims to have absolutely no idea what his father looked like or anything like that. So how did Ego know to taunt Peter with the brief Hasslehoff appearance he made in that scene? That personal quirk of Peter's psyche should have been something that developed well after Ego was presumably long out of the picture.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Khaldun on May 10, 2017, 04:19:42 AM When does Peter tell Gamora about Hasselhoff? (Or have her remind him that she told him about it?) I think Ego can listen in to most conversations if he cares to, since the planet *is* him. He may not be doing it always if his focus is elsewhere, but up to the point where he starts his plan in motion, he's likely listening to or monitoring Peter constantly. Now as for how he knows what Hasselhoff looks like, well. He did go to Earth after Peter was born, I think, if we buy his claims, so...
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: SurfD on May 10, 2017, 04:58:04 AM I thought he had that convo with Gamora on the planet they crashed on, before they decided to split up the team and go with Ego. She was the one who brought it up when Peter was questioning if Ego really was the one. Might be wrong on the timing, but if that is the case, that would make it a decent bit difficult for Ego to have been eavesdropping on them. On the other hand, Peter did have the Hoff picture on him the whole time, so maybe Ego put 2 and 2 together.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Merusk on May 10, 2017, 05:43:15 AM Or Mantis told Ego, or it's a tiny plot-hole created by a pretty funny Hasselhoff cameo and you're looking too deeply into it. :grin:
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Ironwood on May 10, 2017, 06:33:52 AM It was also after Peter was connected to the Universe like Ego. Who fucking knows what they shared in that mess.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: jgsugden on May 10, 2017, 08:37:07 AM All know of the Hoff. It is known.
Watched it again last night. It isn't flawless, but even the flaws work in a Gunn film. I was surprised at how much the scene at the end of the movie choked up EVERYONE in the theater. I'd love to see an nightvision recording of audiences watching that one heartfelt scene... Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Mandella on May 10, 2017, 09:12:11 AM I saw this tonight and enjoyed it. My one major complaint, that most of you share, is that the writing was clumsy with all the exposition. Character 1: Let me explain your arc character 2 Character 2: Wow...you're right! Thank you character 1! I just figure James Gunn wanted to remove any chance of having the read threads on reddit starting with, "I don't understand why..." -- at least as far as the character relationships go. People seem to need stuff spelled out lately... Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: jgsugden on May 10, 2017, 02:22:16 PM ... What do you mean by that?People seem to need stuff spelled out lately... Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Ironwood on May 10, 2017, 02:26:36 PM :grin:
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: eldaec on May 11, 2017, 02:59:32 AM ... What do you mean by that?People seem to need stuff spelled out lately... They jumped into action too quickly and didn't let you grow to care about the characters before they were put in jeopardy. That is why we don't care about them and it feels a bit flat. On a second viewing you care a bit more about the characters because you spent the first viewing with them. They'd have been wise to have spent a few more moments with the characters to make them endearing - an exchange between Jyn Erso and a fellow prisoner that gave us insight into who she had become before we see the 'jail break' could have done a lot to draw us into the film. As long as we connect to Jyn, the film works. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: jgsugden on May 11, 2017, 03:47:03 AM Heh. Although, my comments in the Rogue One thread were more about getting attached to a character than they were about having things spelled out... Had I said people were confused about who Jyn Erso was and didn't follow the story because of that confusion it would more in line with the exposition fest discussion here. Hoowever, everyone got who Jyn was... we just hadn't bonded to her quickly. We didn't get that Starland dancing to the Infinity Stone scene equivalent in Rogue One for Jyn.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Hoax on May 11, 2017, 04:56:21 PM See it. I don't think its as good as 1 as a movie but I do think it was enjoyable throughout visually and story-wise as a feel good thing.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Mandella on May 12, 2017, 10:27:06 AM Two more near random thoughts/observations about the movie:
Hasslehoff must have a great sense of humor, and the Milano family still doesn't. Anybody notice that Starlord's ship wasn't named once? And it doesn't look like that ship is going to make it into the next movie... I suspect the famously IP protective Milano clan threw a fit/wanted a lot of money for the name use. Wonder if they were even asked for the first movie? Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Khaldun on May 13, 2017, 05:00:25 AM What are you talking about? There's an attraction at Disney that's about to open where you get to ride in the Milano, and it's named that in all the promo literature, etc., you can still buy toy models of the Milano from the first movie, etc.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Ironwood on May 13, 2017, 05:55:40 AM Also, they did use the name in the film....
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Mandella on May 13, 2017, 07:26:43 AM Also, they did use the name in the film.... This is why I tagged it "random thoughts observations/observations" and not "insider knowledge." I missed them using the name in the film -- when was it? And @Khaldun: But that is all from the first movie isn't it? But yeah, this is just me idly speculating after only one viewing -- probably total rubbish. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Khaldun on May 13, 2017, 10:13:38 AM If there was any meaningful pressure from an IP holder, they wouldn't be using the name on anything going forward--including merchandise from the first movie. If they didn't get sued for use in the first movie, they have a clear path going forward. Wouldn't be any grounds to sue anyway--there's no sense of an implied endorsement from the naming of a spaceship in an imaginary comic-book movie. Now Hasselhoff, on the other hand, needed to give his blessing for this movie, but that's because he gets a nice little taste of money for it *and* likely brand value for his name going forward.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Mandella on May 13, 2017, 10:50:45 AM If there was any meaningful pressure from an IP holder, they wouldn't be using the name on anything going forward--including merchandise from the first movie. If they didn't get sued for use in the first movie, they have a clear path going forward. Wouldn't be any grounds to sue anyway--there's no sense of an implied endorsement from the naming of a spaceship in an imaginary comic-book movie. Now Hasselhoff, on the other hand, needed to give his blessing for this movie, but that's because he gets a nice little taste of money for it *and* likely brand value for his name going forward. So you're saying I'm just indulging myself in an elaborate and ultimately unlikely fantasy involving Alyssa Milano? :awesome_for_real: Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: HaemishM on May 13, 2017, 12:58:16 PM You wouldn't be the first. :why_so_serious:
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Ironwood on May 13, 2017, 01:19:20 PM I specifically remember them saying that Rocket would stay and fix The Milano. It was named. And not just that once.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: jgsugden on May 13, 2017, 06:56:29 PM Interesting timing note: This story takes place around 4 months after GotG1 or both movies basically took place between Season 1 and 2 of Agents of Shield. There will be a four year gap for the characters between this movie and next year's Avengers flick.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: kaid on May 15, 2017, 07:51:39 AM I specifically remember them saying that Rocket would stay and fix The Milano. It was named. And not just that once. Yup rocket had some kinda nano repair gun and they seemed pretty sure rocket would be able to get it repaired and working again. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Samwise on May 15, 2017, 10:10:30 AM I was actually really happy at them establishing that the Milano is apparently infinitely and easily fixable. I hate the Star Trek thing of destroying the Enterprise in almost every movie so they can design a newer sexier one for the next movie.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Mandella on May 15, 2017, 10:24:17 AM I definitely found the Milano to be prettier than whatever barge they were piloting there at the end. Wouldn't mind seeing it come back at all.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Soulflame on May 15, 2017, 10:29:02 AM You'd think they'd get tired of building a new star cruiser every couple of years. Hell, given how long it probably takes to build one of those things, they probably have two or three in various stages of completion at all times, just to keep up.
Also, even without any sort of economy or what have you, at some point the use of resources to churn out star cruisers would put a dent in their ability to do something more useful. Also, GotG2 is pretty good. We all enjoyed it. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Khaldun on May 15, 2017, 11:23:41 AM As is maybe befitting a comic-book space universe, shit is pretty vague in the MCU and in Marvel Comics about distances, cost, etc.--the Guardians need to work to keep the ship going, we've seen that much, but it's not all that clear how much any of this stuff costs or how difficult it is to get fuel. Also not really clear how powerful or big any of the major empires, etc. are, which is also true in the comics. I think back in the Stan Lee everything-is-huge era, the Kree allegedly controlled an entire galaxy somewhere and the Skrulls controlled another galaxy somewhere, but I think they quietly backed off that because Lee and his early writers had no idea what the fuck they were talking about in terms of scale. (In the first issue of Nova, Marv Wolfman tried to have a ship that was as big as the planet Saturn orbit around Earth and yet not be visible to anyone on Earth or cause any issues with gravity. Um, no, Marv, really not.)
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: jgsugden on May 18, 2017, 07:13:27 AM Gunn just said that as far as he is concerned, Simon Williams being in the MCU and looking like Nathan Fillion is canon. It sounds like there are plans.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Merusk on May 18, 2017, 07:21:09 AM No, it just means that as far as he's concerned that's the case. Fillion has a deleted cameo and shows up in multiple movie posters at a "Simon Williams Film Festival" n the Earth scenes as Williams.
http://imgur.com/a/ZTWeW#yIrl4iY Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: jgsugden on May 18, 2017, 07:33:51 AM Read into it what you will. Not that we'll likely see a homecoming for Quill in the not too distant future.
Quote As many of you know one of my best friends in the world is Nathan Fillion. Along with Michael Rooker and Gregg Henry he's been in every movie I've directed - even as a monstrous, perverted voice in Guardians of the Galaxy. I didn't have a good cameo for him in Vol. 2 - and I wanted to bring him more fully into the MCU at some point, so I didn't want to make him Aakon Guard #2, narrowing his chance of a more substantial role in the future. I really do love the character of Simon Williams/Wonder Man in the comics - a sometimes douchey actor/superhero - and could see Nathan clearly in that role (not because he's a douchebag but because he's great at playing one). But, of course, in a movie set 99.9% in space I didn't really have a place for him. So in a small flash to earth I decided to put a theater playing a "Simon Williams Film Festival," with six Simon Williams movie posters outside. Obviously, from the posters, he's had a run of B movies. Most of them in themselves are Easter eggs of some sort or another. Unfortunately, the small section of the scene where they appeared slowed down the movie and I had to cut the Easter eggs from the film (along with storefronts named after comic book luminaries Starlin, Mantlos, Annett and others). Equally a bummer was that a lot of people took photos of these posters on the day so suddenly every fan site was reporting that Nathan was playing Wonder Man in he movie. He was even the third-billed actor on IMDB! So that's the full story. Nathan's only cameo in the movie ever were these posters. I'll post them all over the next few days. And, yes, I think we can consider them canon for the MCU, and I hold onto hope that Simon Williams will rise again!![/ quote] Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Khaldun on May 18, 2017, 05:24:38 PM I love the news today that they
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: RhyssaFireheart on May 20, 2017, 07:43:04 PM Went to see GOTG2 today on my own and absolutely loved it. I especially loved the opening credits sequence with Baby Groot dancing across that platform while everyone else was fighting. Overall, I really enjoyed the movie a lot and I'm glad I went to see it. All the little Easter eggs or cameos or whatever you want to call them in the ending credits were just great.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: SurfD on May 21, 2017, 03:50:30 PM Marvel really needs to throw bags of money at whoever is responsible for the Guardians soundtracks and get them to do every single Marvel movie coming out from now on. It is absolutely disgusting how awesome the soundtracks for both movies are, and how badly they stomp the shit out of everything else.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Samwise on May 21, 2017, 04:46:11 PM Marvel really needs to throw bags of money at whoever is responsible for the Guardians soundtracks and get them to do every single Marvel movie coming out from now on. It is absolutely disgusting how awesome the soundtracks for both movies are, and how badly they stomp the shit out of everything else. That'd be James Gunn. I was reading a thing a while back about how when he proposed the soundtrack for the first Guardians movie, the studio pushed back initially because they thought a 90s soundtrack would have broader demographic appeal. :awesome_for_real: Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: SurfD on May 21, 2017, 06:18:59 PM sadly, Starlord has a Zune now, so we may end up with more "modern" shit in the next movie.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Surlyboi on May 21, 2017, 06:41:06 PM Marvel really needs to throw bags of money at whoever is responsible for the Guardians soundtracks and get them to do every single Marvel movie coming out from now on. It is absolutely disgusting how awesome the soundtracks for both movies are, and how badly they stomp the shit out of everything else. This one fit even better. The "I'm Not In Love" opening of the first one killed me for various personal reasons, but the "Mr. Blue Sky" Baby Groot romp at the beginning of this one was utterly brilliant. And the use of "Lake Shore Drive" as they head out in the Milano fit perfectly. The only thing in recent memory that worked better for me was "Only Living Boy in New York" with the Sean Spicer montage on SNL a couple of weeks ago. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: SurfD on May 21, 2017, 06:44:29 PM The song they played (name escapes me at the moment) during the mano-a-mano faceoff between Peter and Ego was absolutely brilliant as well.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Samwise on May 22, 2017, 07:18:30 AM The song they played (name escapes me at the moment) during the mano-a-mano faceoff between Peter and Ego was absolutely brilliant as well. "The Chain", Fleetwood Mac. I may have played that album on repeat all the next day. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: jgsugden on May 22, 2017, 03:13:19 PM "Father and Sons" by Cat Stevens hit me. Anyplace else it would not have registered with me, but when they used it there at the end.... like a punch.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Hoax on May 23, 2017, 04:18:19 PM The song they played (name escapes me at the moment) during the mano-a-mano faceoff between Peter and Ego was absolutely brilliant as well. "The Chain", Fleetwood Mac. I may have played that album on repeat all the next day. Any excuse to listen to Rumours is a great excuse. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Soulflame on May 23, 2017, 06:10:02 PM The casting choice for Drax is excellent. He's fantastic in that role.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: kaid on June 07, 2017, 11:59:00 AM I specifically remember them saying that Rocket would stay and fix The Milano. It was named. And not just that once. And with whatever tool rock was using it was rebuilding/growing the damaged parts of the ship. It sounded like they were all sure he could rebuild it but that it would just take some time to do it. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Mandella on June 08, 2017, 02:01:49 PM I specifically remember them saying that Rocket would stay and fix The Milano. It was named. And not just that once. And with whatever tool rock was using it was rebuilding/growing the damaged parts of the ship. It sounded like they were all sure he could rebuild it but that it would just take some time to do it. Jeeze okay okay. I thought I admitted it was idle speculation fueled by bad memory and only one watchthrough. No need for the :mob: Back ontopic: It's still a great movie. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: TheWalrus on June 08, 2017, 02:18:05 PM I thought it was interesting how Groot symbolized the unkillable patriarchy of the world, resurrected after the first show, and leaving root like penises everywhere.
Am I doing this right? Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Lakov_Sanite on June 08, 2017, 03:36:56 PM I thought it was interesting how Groot symbolized the unkillable patriarchy of the world, resurrected after the first show, and leaving root like penises everywhere. Am I doing this right? There's plenty of in depth talk about this movie already if you actually read the above posts. Don't shit up other threads with non-existent SJW's from the WW one. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Merusk on June 08, 2017, 07:43:44 PM I thought it was interesting how Groot symbolized the unkillable patriarchy of the world, resurrected after the first show, and leaving root like penises everywhere. I am Groot.Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: BobtheSomething on June 08, 2017, 08:10:46 PM I thought it was interesting how Groot symbolized the unkillable patriarchy of the world, resurrected after the first show, and leaving root like penises everywhere. Am I doing this right? I think you confused Ego with Groot. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Brennik on August 08, 2017, 12:19:45 PM The Blu-Ray etc. release commercial is... quite something: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MMMe1drnZY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MMMe1drnZY)
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Mandella on August 08, 2017, 12:43:05 PM In case anyone wants to see the "inspiration" for the Guardians promo...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZbsBzDWDis And once again, Hasslehoff is either out of his mind, or has a truly out of this world sense of humor. I guess that isn't mutually exclusive... Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: kaid on August 08, 2017, 12:54:48 PM In case anyone wants to see the "inspiration" for the Guardians promo... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZbsBzDWDis And once again, Hasslehoff is either out of his mind, or has a truly out of this world sense of humor. I guess that isn't mutually exclusive... The hoff seems to have a pretty good sense of humor about himself. He had had some rough patches with drinking in the past and his career has taken a lot of really weird turns but always seems to be able to at least laugh at himself and not get to stuck on his own ego. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Merusk on August 08, 2017, 01:25:17 PM I can't even the thing.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Sir T on August 08, 2017, 01:35:24 PM I have the Hoffs autobiography. He does not sugercoat anything in it about his drinking and other stuff, and he really does have a good sens of humour about himself. Its a short and good read if anyone sees it somewhere.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: schild on August 08, 2017, 05:13:03 PM The Blu-Ray etc. release commercial is... quite something: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MMMe1drnZY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MMMe1drnZY) i uh ok Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Lakov_Sanite on August 09, 2017, 05:43:09 AM I never realized how much I needed Zoe Saldana in a 70's outfit in my life before this.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: slog on August 11, 2017, 06:11:22 AM Watched this last night. Found it to be meh.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: lamaros on August 22, 2017, 07:30:40 AM I also saw it and enjoyed it.
Better than Logan which was good up until the last 5min. Waaaaay better than Deadpool (which is just standard shitty movie + 'mature' one liners). Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Ironwood on August 22, 2017, 09:17:08 AM Something wrong with you mate.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: lamaros on August 23, 2017, 02:44:12 AM Something wrong with you mate. So I've been told. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Mandella on August 27, 2017, 01:47:59 PM All right bitches.
Just snagged the Guardians 2 DVD, couple of observations. 1) It get even better on rewatch, and 2) Nowhere anytime do they reference the Milano as the frikkin Milano. It's "the ship" or "the craft." Never do they refer to it by name. I even downloaded the subtitles file and did a word search -- no Milano. Also, said nameless craft was not just damaged at the end. The battle between Nebula and Gammora left it a puddle of burning slag, which was then consumed completely by the destruction of Ego. I mean, I guess they could build another one, but the first one is vaporized toast. Go ahead, check my work. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: TheWalrus on August 28, 2017, 12:52:34 AM Milano is emblazoned across the port (I believe) wing, as it also is on my sons Lego set. So. There's that.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: jgsugden on August 28, 2017, 07:16:24 AM Quote Go ahead, check my work. I thought the Milano repairs where not completed and it was left behind... never making it to Ego?Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Merusk on August 28, 2017, 08:12:58 AM That was what I thought, too. Rocket et al were taken by the Reavers on their ship, not the Milano.
Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Mandella on August 28, 2017, 10:20:28 AM Quote Go ahead, check my work. I thought the Milano repairs where not completed and it was left behind... never making it to Ego?I'll re-watch the relevant parts later when I have time, but it seemed the Ravengers took the Milano with them when they snagged Rocket. Why would they leave it after all? So it was the ship Nebula took when she left to find Gamora. As always, could be wrong, but at least now I can go check. Also will check for the name on the wing. Wouldn't doubt it, but there was still no verbal reference. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: jgsugden on August 28, 2017, 11:33:25 AM I think they left it behind because the repairs were incomplete.
I also think the name is not on the wing based upon images I look at. I also think all of this stuff doesn't matter at all - whether it was reduced to atoms or fully functional at the end of the film, we would not bat an eye when it pops up in the next Marvel film. Title: Re: Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 Post by: Sir T on August 30, 2017, 04:40:29 PM See - Prof X.
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