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Title: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on April 29, 2016, 11:37:51 AM
New season starts tonight. Lots of new cosmetics to hunt, and a few new goblin types. Most sets got a bump in power again as well, so we will be seeing a lot of solo builds hitting GR 80 and above. I am thinking about a WD this go around, so soulflame has to babysit me through that  :grin:


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Segoris on April 29, 2016, 03:32:54 PM
Yeah, definitely going HC WD.

tl;d of the patch notes - health globes, twisters, GR70+, gilded barons nerfed, all set bonus damage increased.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Nebu on April 29, 2016, 04:47:25 PM
Yeah, definitely going HC WD.

tl;d of the patch notes - health globes, twisters, GR70+, gilded barons nerfed, all set bonus damage increased.

That's ALL good news.  It may actually change the meta a bit.

Going to try a DH this season after playing a Crusader last season.  Ranged damage will be a welcome change.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Hutch on May 02, 2016, 03:12:23 PM
The cosmetic items that I've found (two so far) were white drops.
They can't be salvaged.
As far as I can tell, they're immediately transmog-able.

I got a scythe (transmog for a staff), and a helmet that looks like some flavor of space trooper  :drill:


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Merusk on May 02, 2016, 03:59:35 PM
So who's up for me hopping in and leeching XP? I tried asking in clan chat yesterday and got a wall of silence.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Pennilenko on May 02, 2016, 05:17:42 PM
So who's up for me hopping in and leeching XP? I tried asking in clan chat yesterday and got a wall of silence.

If you catch me while I am on, I am always willing to power level.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Rasix on May 02, 2016, 05:27:04 PM
Yep, same.  I'm a shitter still, so it'll take longer.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on May 02, 2016, 06:27:06 PM
I can run mans around for xps.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Rasix on May 05, 2016, 01:56:54 PM
I was skeptical at first, but Raekor's set is pretty decent actually.  Plus it clears fast.  It's also humorous just headbutting everything into kibble.  May have some durability issues at higher levels, but that can probably be mitigated.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 05, 2016, 04:24:51 PM
My first WD has been interesting.  See mob,  cast AoE ,  watch pets kick the shit out of everything.  Even I can't fuck that up too often.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Azuredream on May 05, 2016, 05:39:06 PM
The Delsere set they give you for Wizard is pretty good for pushing Greater Rifts but is kinda underwhelming for speed clearing. I'm thinking I probably should've started with another class. It's just so annoying having to have a Slow Time field up to do any damage. Fortunately, I'm just an In-Geom away from the Tal's/Firebird flashfire build and I have high expectations for that.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Xanthippe on May 08, 2016, 09:34:12 AM
So who's up for me hopping in and leeching XP? I tried asking in clan chat yesterday and got a wall of silence.

I'm happy to PL. I sometimes get tunnel vision, though, when I'm playing, and don't pay attention to chat.



Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: EWSpider on May 08, 2016, 05:57:19 PM
If you get a random invite from Drevik just join in and soak up the xp/lootz.  No expectations.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Rasix on May 09, 2016, 12:08:10 PM
I was skeptical at first, but Raekor's set is pretty decent actually.  Plus it clears fast.  It's also humorous just headbutting everything into kibble.  May have some durability issues at higher levels, but that can probably be mitigated.

Well, leap barb is just about 100% better.  Squishier and less potential for future durability, but the damage isn't even close.  With Raekor, you're pretty much dependent on boulder toss for damage, here it's just a refresh mechanic and some added damage.

What do barbs run at higher grifts?  Spin to win?


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Merusk on May 09, 2016, 12:57:23 PM
Thanks much for the invite yesterday, Drevik. Went from fresh 70 with only 2 bits and 22 points to my full set, a great bow-upgrade, some Cubed gear and almost 200 PP. Awesome!

Now to research what to do to tweak my DH as I'm always running out of hatred.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: EWSpider on May 09, 2016, 02:51:57 PM
Thanks much for the invite yesterday, Drevik. Went from fresh 70 with only 2 bits and 22 points to my full set, a great bow-upgrade, some Cubed gear and almost 200 PP. Awesome!

Now to research what to do to tweak my DH as I'm always running out of hatred.

Work on perma-Vengeance.  With Dawn in the cube and enough CDR on your gear you can keep it up permanently.  After that you just need a Manticore if you're running Cluster Arrow or a Yang's if you're running Multishot and you should be good to go.  You can use Reaper's Wraps as a stopgap solution.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Merusk on May 09, 2016, 03:26:50 PM
Ah there's the missing component then, the Dawn. I'll have to hunt one down. Someone was kind enough to dump a Yang's so I've got one of those already (thus my lack of hatred. Multishot is SO FAST...)


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on May 09, 2016, 03:46:25 PM
I was skeptical at first, but Raekor's set is pretty decent actually.  Plus it clears fast.  It's also humorous just headbutting everything into kibble.  May have some durability issues at higher levels, but that can probably be mitigated.

Well, leap barb is just about 100% better.  Squishier and less potential for future durability, but the damage isn't even close.  With Raekor, you're pretty much dependent on boulder toss for damage, here it's just a refresh mechanic and some added damage.

What do barbs run at higher grifts?  Spin to win?
6 piece Raekors + 4 piece IK, with a RoRG.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Segoris on May 09, 2016, 11:20:42 PM
I went DH on HC this season, and it feels pretty similar to last season. Do whatever you can to get the UE set and melt everything in existence. Still fun though


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on May 09, 2016, 11:35:45 PM
I keep seeing people being removed from the leaderboards.  There was a barb at 90 or 91 last night; not there anymore.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Setanta on May 10, 2016, 03:46:00 AM
I was skeptical at first, but Raekor's set is pretty decent actually.  Plus it clears fast.  It's also humorous just headbutting everything into kibble.  May have some durability issues at higher levels, but that can probably be mitigated.

This is what I'm running http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Setanta-1696/hero/67545436

It just smashes things with with 100% up time on Wrath of the beserker and call of the ancients. Yes my Templar does have more ancients than me :D All I'm waiting for is restraint to drop but damn this spec is fun.

The trick is to either furious charge into a pack of 4 or more - or to hit 1 mob only to keep furious charge running as the fury generator.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on May 23, 2016, 12:33:18 PM
Anyone interested in trying to complete the Curses! conquest? Kill 350 mobs before timer expires on a cursed chest event.

I can get to about 280 mobs solo before the timer expires.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Rasix on May 23, 2016, 12:37:12 PM
Pretty sure the leap barb would do a decent job of that.  Just so much AE and residual AE that's left just doing its thing.

edit: Watched a vid and it looks like the UE multishot build just slays that conquest.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Merusk on May 23, 2016, 03:50:53 PM
Yeah, Multishot seemed like it'd do great. Drop 3-4 turrets and you don't have to worry about mobs that spawn out of melee or other classes cone of fire.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on May 23, 2016, 04:12:16 PM
Now you know why I was leveling a demon hunter, Rasix.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Rasix on May 23, 2016, 04:18:48 PM
I'm nearing that.  I don't really think I can go much farther on my barb or crusader.  Barb might be able to eek out GR 70 if I get lucky and the crusader seems to have problems with 65.  Shit just starts hitting too hard.  The barb is too squishy and the crusader just kills too slow.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on May 23, 2016, 04:29:55 PM
My WD stalled out at GR 72.  I could level a bunch of gems to apply to gear, but that sounds so grindy.  I've spent an ungodly amount of blood shards trying to just upgrade my shoulders, and nothing.  The one ancient piece I did get had such terrible rolls, even enchanting didn't make it better than what I was already wearing.

I think that particular Conquest is the easiest one I have left (I hit 3 level 65 gems yesterday) in order to get the tab.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 23, 2016, 05:09:47 PM
My DH is ready for TX shenanigans, so we can try the chest whenever you want.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: EWSpider on May 23, 2016, 09:07:57 PM
Some shrines are better than others for the Curses! conquest.  The Cursed Peat bounty for example makes it much easier to achieve.

For those stalled in the lows 70s GRs, have you made multiple attempts?  The rift map you get and the mobs on the map can make a HUGE difference.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Xanthippe on May 23, 2016, 09:45:07 PM
I don't think I can do another Conquest solo on my WD. I'd love to help with the chest one, if anyone wants to invite me.

I have heard the best chest is Act V Blood Swamp.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on May 24, 2016, 01:44:02 AM
I have made multiple attempts.

GR 72 - doable.  One time, with 5s to spare!  That was exciting.
GR 73 - not doable.  Probably 3-4 attempts so far.  Seeing yellow mobs with one trillion health (not an exaggeration) is enough to make me weep.  Of course I often see very narrow maps when I'm trying the high level rifts, which is awesomely terrible for pet WD.

Just finding the damned chest event in Paths of the Drowned is hilariously difficult.  I think I ran that area at least 5 or 6 times tonight, didn't show up once.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Hawkbit on May 24, 2016, 10:13:32 AM
I've got a Sunwoku Monk I started a few weeks ago and is pushing GR higher than I've ever been before, even with my Invoker Crusader last season. However, I'm missing a torch to cube and it's really slowing me down without. Does anyone know the best way to farm for one? I'm guessing cube upgrade rare is probably the best option, but if there's a faster way I'd love to know.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 24, 2016, 11:43:01 AM
Check to see when it first appears on the loot table- you might be able to upgrade from rare on a lower level alt (since at level 70 you are rolling against the entirety of the loot table).

Finished my first GR50 last night with 0 minutes and 0 seconds left. Stats screen on turn in showed I had .27777 seconds left  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Segoris on May 24, 2016, 12:06:00 PM
For the torch, there are three ways I usually go about this. Upgrade from rare or loot trade runs where you group with monks and just trade whatever each other need.

As for conquests, if there's a group for the Cursed conquest I'm in. Otherwise, if there's any group for running low/mid GR70s to get 3x rank 65 gems I'd be down for that too. Just shoot me a message


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: EWSpider on May 25, 2016, 10:38:20 AM
If you want to hit GR75 it pretty much does come down to grinding.  On my DH I've got 400 Dex from Paragons and 975 Dex from Caldesann's Despair.  That's a good chunk of DPS leaving me sitting at just over 2m paper DPS.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on May 25, 2016, 02:34:54 PM
I'm at 2m paper DPS.  That took a few gear and stats on gear changes.  I did clear 73, can probably clear 74.  2-3 more gems and probably 75.   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 25, 2016, 03:04:16 PM
I really need to grind GRs. I have been very lax on that aspect this season. I think my highest leveled gem is like 38 or something hilariously low like that.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 25, 2016, 05:17:49 PM
Cursed Peat was one of the bounties today. Did it with Swankster and a goon. On  screen counter was lagging behind at under 200 when we finished, but we actually got 352  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: SurfD on May 27, 2016, 12:32:02 AM
So, if you had to chose two Toons to play with this Season, which class would you go with?  What is the currently broken flavour of the season?


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on May 27, 2016, 12:40:17 AM
Wizard, wizard, wizard, DH, or wizard.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on May 27, 2016, 12:31:42 PM
Saw a Cursed Peat, Swankster jumped in (thanks again!) and we killed 399 before the timer expired.

Yay new stash tab.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Xanthippe on May 28, 2016, 03:25:24 PM
Nice!

Would a monk be able to get Cursed Peat, do you think? I know I can't get it on WD.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on May 28, 2016, 05:33:27 PM
I think with an AE build, probably a monk could do it.

If I'm around I can help with the Curses! event.  I can kill a lot of stuff, I just can't possibly kill 350 in the timer.  :|  It might be a zuni or arachyr build could kill 350 solo, but I'm skeptical.  Helltooth, almost certainly not.

I did manage to kill Diablo in 45s or less.  That achievement is kind of ridiculous, apparently the timer starts the moment you enter the crystal arch zone.  Go with the fastest movement build you have!  Took me 4 tries, the last one I gave up and went with angry chicken + manjumas to run me to Diablo ASAP.

Now to get to 70 HC, and one more conquest.  I can run GR 74... sometimes.  So just two or three more Caldesann's!  I can almost feel the excitement.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Azuredream on May 30, 2016, 05:17:42 AM
Blizzard came out and said (http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/62450-the-future-of-firebirds-finery) you can use this build without getting banned, so I used it to get the 75 GR conquest easily. If you have a wizard the gear requirements are very, very low. This (http://www.diablofans.com/builds/80795-firebug-wizard-gr100-solo) is the build. It relies on some weird bug in the Firebird/Archon set interaction to pump up your DoT damage to insane levels. I don't really get it, but the key point is that you have 0 Area Damage and 0 Critical Hit/Critical Damage on your gear/paragon points. If you have too much damage the spec doesn't work because it relies on the mobs burning without being ignited. You also take advantage of a bug where if you ignite just one blue mob and run away, you keep the 50 Firebird's stacks permanently.

It's weird as hell and you'll have to watch a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfh9jq6xhtQ) to see how it's supposed to work but it wiped the floor with GRifts up to 75 and it can go past 100 if you really feel like it.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on May 30, 2016, 12:52:56 PM
I see.  I might have to try that.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on May 30, 2016, 03:07:02 PM
This is bananas and looks not fun to play at all :/


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on June 01, 2016, 12:55:04 AM
Finally hit GR 75 with the WD.  With something like 5s to spare.  And I got outstandingly lucky on the boss, I was able to run the Traveler's Pledge 100% damage bonus almost the entire fight.

I might have to set the WD on fire now. Onward to a level 70 HC char.

Getting to that point was outstandingly unpleasant.  I'll probably play the DH unless I need some gems leveled for the rest of the season.

Anyone interested in hunting for cosmetics?  Who doesn't want some pretty wings.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on June 01, 2016, 01:24:32 AM
I am down for whatever when I am on...hit me up. We could grind up HC or hunt or whatever.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Xanthippe on June 02, 2016, 09:21:30 AM
I love my WD, especially the T10 speedy Helltooth chicken build. It's great for checking for menagerist goblins, farming rifts for DBs, and doing bounties. I haven't progressed much past 65, though, as it becomes painful despite being almost all decked out in ancients.

I started a monk and have tried Inna's pet build - I think I'm at T8 with that - and the one punch Sunwuko (T8), which seems better but I'm not quite geared completely for it. Missing a couple of pieces still, it seems ok but not OP.

I started a wizard with some Firebird Archon build and wow - it seems effortless even with crappy rolls on gear. I'll have to see how I can spend more time as an Archon because that just seems invulnerable.

How long will this season last?



Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on June 02, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
The season runs until about July 23, I believe.  Plus/Minus a week or so.

I do run angry chicken helltooth for speed running, that does work well. 


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on July 10, 2016, 03:46:42 PM
Season 6 will end on July 22 @ 5:00 PM PDT/CEST/KST.

Season 7 will start August 5 @ 5 PM PDT/CEST/KST.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on July 10, 2016, 04:38:04 PM
Well I better get 70 before August 9th I guess.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Paelos on July 11, 2016, 12:56:09 PM
Gives me time to get this going on the laptop. I'd like to get back into D3 for season 7.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on July 19, 2016, 11:07:35 PM
Patch notes. (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/20149714/patch-242-ptr-patch-notes-7-12-2016)

I'm no expert, but this looks like a pile of nerfs, no new content, and a couple of QoL improvements.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on July 20, 2016, 01:59:44 AM
I hope this isn't a season patch.

It's terrible. Though really it's biggest crime is being fucking boring.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Yegolev on July 20, 2016, 10:37:13 AM
Quote
Socketing a Topaz into your helm will now provide Resource Cost Reduction rather than Magic Find.

Harumph.  Is this nerf rampage a precursor to something that will be more fun?


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on July 20, 2016, 10:39:57 AM
Magic find never meant anything or worked anyway as far as I can tell.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Yegolev on July 20, 2016, 10:40:44 AM
Huh, well, my bad for not reading reddit or something.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on July 20, 2016, 10:42:58 AM
I never looked it up, I just casually played with it for hundreds of hours. Maybe it works, I don't know. I think the original intention was to increase the quality of drops, not the quantity.

But with an increased quantity comes an increase over all quality just due to the nature of randomization. I'm more likely to find something good if I have mounds of garbage to sort through.

Anyway, I question whether Blizzard folks know what's good considering shit gets broken by players at every turn in games like this.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Yegolev on July 20, 2016, 11:00:31 AM
I never got good at D3 math.  So, whatever.

What is the relation between these patches and the PS4 game?  I should probably go looking for PS4ish information since the game itself is pretty mute when it comes to math in the first place.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on July 20, 2016, 01:40:34 PM
The resource reduction is a good change, but keep in mind that every level of difficulty modifies your magic find, and as I recall, in a far more significant manner than whatever a socketed topaz was doing.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Yegolev on July 20, 2016, 02:17:09 PM
Discussion with nerds confirms that item quantity and difficulty trump MF.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on July 20, 2016, 02:22:54 PM
Another thing - a lot of builds utilize a cooldown reduction gem in the helm, where they aren't socketing for more % life.  No doubt there are builds that will gladly take a resource reduction gem, but I don't think it's really that large of a buff for most players.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Paelos on July 21, 2016, 07:46:21 AM
OK maybe I'm not so excited about coming back for this season then.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Rasix on July 21, 2016, 12:32:29 PM
I haven't rolled a monk in a while or really committed to a Wizard from the start, although I'm not sure where Wizards will be given the amount of nerfs they've absorbed.

So, I'll probably give this a shot. Not really psyched about a new torment levels.  It's not really something I've ever wanted.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Yegolev on July 21, 2016, 01:27:17 PM
None of this is exciting in any way.  Am I missing something?  I'm still working on completing sets & builds (PS4 restart yo) so I might be missing something.

OK, so guaranteed keys and machines is good.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on July 21, 2016, 02:31:03 PM
I finally got my goddamned tab a few days ago, so I can relax until the new season starts. Probably rolling monk this time.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Draegan on July 21, 2016, 02:58:53 PM
I skipped season six. Not sure if I want to do 7. Nothing is pulling me in.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Merusk on July 21, 2016, 03:23:18 PM
I haven't even been arsed enough to get the cosmetic award this time around. I think Demon Hunter was a poor choice for me. I just don't find them very fun.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on July 21, 2016, 05:14:46 PM
I don't like being railroaded into builds. Every season it's "get to TX or whatever with this exact build" yay you did it

Blizzard has decreased player discovery and creativity to fucking zero in 2 patches.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Paelos on July 22, 2016, 08:05:13 AM
I don't like being railroaded into builds.

That was my problem with the barb when I was playing it at the beginning. The most effective build was really unfun to me.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Draegan on July 22, 2016, 09:38:08 AM
Pretty much.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Merusk on July 22, 2016, 11:32:19 AM
Agreed.

Also, tried to login and run thorugh the last achieve needed for my WH last night. Didn't even get past the character select screen. I fucking hate the Set Dungeon for WH. The "don't get hit by anything" requirement combined with, "OH LOL HERE'S RANDOM EARTHWORMS" is complete bullshit.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Paelos on July 27, 2016, 12:23:53 PM
So when is S7 coming? I am getting my non-season barb back into things and get him to lvl 70. He was originally made when the vanilla version came out and I quit.

Also, can someone answer me a barb question? I see these builds where the barb has two action spenders? But no generator? How the hell do you play that way and spend all your fury? Where is the fury coming from?

I realize how many jokes that last sentence can spawn so don't be that guy please.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on July 27, 2016, 03:16:42 PM
Season 7 will start August 5 @ 5 PM PDT/CEST/KST.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Paelos on July 27, 2016, 03:20:29 PM
OK so next week. That's good thanks.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: EWSpider on July 27, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
So when is S7 coming? I am getting my non-season barb back into things and get him to lvl 70. He was originally made when the vanilla version came out and I quit.

Also, can someone answer me a barb question? I see these builds where the barb has two action spenders? But no generator? How the hell do you play that way and spend all your fury? Where is the fury coming from?

I realize how many jokes that last sentence can spawn so don't be that guy please.

Check the items in the build.  For example the popular Hammer of the Ancients build uses the Gavel of Judgement:  "Hammer of the Ancients returns 20-25 Fury if it hits 3 or fewer enemies".  So you use War Cry to generate just enough Fury to use Hammer of the Ancients and then quickly spam HotA to get max Fury before diving into a group of mobs.  Any time you get low on Fury you can spam it again at nothing to quickly get max Fury.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Paelos on July 27, 2016, 03:24:30 PM
Ah that's helpful, I will look. The barb always has the strangest builds to me of them all.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Setanta on July 30, 2016, 05:59:30 AM
Ah that's helpful, I will look. The barb always has the strangest builds to me of them all.

I loved the S6 headbutt build... once I got used to its weirdness.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 01, 2016, 01:22:57 AM
Leapquake barb was a blast in S5.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Draegan on August 01, 2016, 08:23:46 AM
Whata going to be fun this season? Skipped last season and played crusader the season before.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Paelos on August 01, 2016, 10:26:13 AM
I'm probably doing a monk since that's one of the classes I've never played.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Draegan on August 01, 2016, 01:16:34 PM
I was think barb or monk based on no data other than might be cool.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Rasix on August 01, 2016, 01:29:58 PM
Barb builds are frustrating past GR60, at least Raekor's and the Leap barb are.  Raekor's damage goes in the toilet, and you're completely dependent on Ancient Spear damage.  Leap barb is like ringing a dinner bell for everything to kick the shit out of you as it's even more fragile than Raekor's.  I found the Leap barb to be fun, however, and less prone to having to just sit there and wait for charges or cooldowns to reset.  I think Raekor's has a much higher GR ceiling, but I just found it frustrating and slow outside of a Torment X speedrunning setup.

I'm probably going monk.  I did UE DH last season after barb and found that to be fun and effective. I haven't played a monk for a few seasons now.  I've done enough WD and Crusader (once is enough). 


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on August 01, 2016, 02:30:11 PM
My experience with WD is you are utterly dependent on one source of damage (Gargantuans) or stay around T8 or so.

 :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: MrHat on August 01, 2016, 04:05:28 PM
I'll probably rock a DH this time around since I haven't played one since like season 3.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: TheWalrus on August 01, 2016, 05:33:57 PM
Demon hunter and Monk reward sets look promising.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 02, 2016, 06:30:42 PM
Monk. Had a blast with Uliana's in S5.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Nebu on August 05, 2016, 02:12:12 AM
Everything I've read points to WD being easy and op again this season.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Draegan on August 05, 2016, 07:43:12 AM
They nerfed the ring that buffs pet damage.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on August 05, 2016, 09:52:25 AM
Are you fucking kidding me.

That's literally the only thing that kept WDs even competitive.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Yegolev on August 05, 2016, 11:36:33 AM
I enjoy the contrast in recent posts.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Rasix on August 05, 2016, 12:27:21 PM
So this season started then?  I never knew that ring applied to pet damage.  Is it newish? I never had that ring in pet builds before, but I haven't done a WD in a couple seasons now.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on August 05, 2016, 12:41:39 PM
I assumed he meant the Short Man's Finger, but I'm not seeing any references to it.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Nebu on August 05, 2016, 12:49:33 PM
They nerfed the ring that buffs pet damage.

The forums I've been browsing for this season stated that people on the PTR are moving away from pet WD's since they're too slow for speed runs.  I know almost nothing about WD's, but thought about playing one this season.  That's why I've been trying to see what's going on.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Rasix on August 05, 2016, 12:56:29 PM
I assumed he meant the Short Man's Finger, but I'm not seeing any references to it.

They're referring to: http://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/22264-major-witch-doctor-nerf-mere-hours-before-season-7-begins/

Ring of emptiness + Garg.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on August 05, 2016, 01:20:54 PM
There is no build diversity for WDs.  If you want to progress reliably past about GR 50, you are going to run helltooth, with gargs + short man's finger.  Because Gargs are literally the only source of damage that is effective past that point.

Edit:  Apparently Jade Harvester is improved by the Ring of Emptiness, but the problem is that with Helltooth you can run Sacred Harvester + bracer to allow it to stack to 10, which is a huge damage reduction setup. Damage reduction is pretty critical for higher GRs.
- 3% int per stack (Soul Harvest)
- 6% damage reduction per stack (bracer)

http://www.icy-veins.com/d3/witch-doctor-gargantuan-build-with-helltooth-patch-2-4-2-season-7

Literally the same boring non-interactive build from last season.  Great job, Blizzard!


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Nebu on August 05, 2016, 01:29:37 PM
Seems they buffed Ring of Emptyness.  It's worked in with helltooth and garg.  

What Rasix said.

I've decided to play a Crusader again this season.  It's the best combination of damage + forgiveness for my play style.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Merusk on August 05, 2016, 01:35:36 PM
I had a lot of fun with the sader it was just slow.   Monk is fas and durable I might do that again.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Nebu on August 05, 2016, 01:39:11 PM
I had a lot of fun with the sader it was just slow.   Monk is fas and durable I might do that again.

Monk seems very strong this season, particularly solo.  I think it's a solid choice.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on August 05, 2016, 02:43:47 PM
I was planning on playing a DH or Wizard this season, mostly because WD has been my primary the past 2 or 3 seasons.

Getting UE for free is pretty much a deciding factor on that.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Paelos on August 05, 2016, 03:48:47 PM
I had a lot of fun with the sader it was just slow.   Monk is fas and durable I might do that again.

Monk seems very strong this season, particularly solo.  I think it's a solid choice.

That's what I'm going with, never made one.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Draegan on August 06, 2016, 06:06:47 PM
Leveling my barb via massacre bonuses. He's like 60 now. Kind of a fun challenge to hit 300 kills.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on August 07, 2016, 01:41:15 PM
I'm probably not playing this season. :/


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Yegolev on August 07, 2016, 01:43:10 PM
Leveling my barb via massacre bonuses. He's like 60 now. Kind of a fun challenge to hit 300 kills.

I accidentally did this with a monk:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85916/d3-2359-kills-small.png)


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on August 07, 2016, 01:57:38 PM
wut


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Merusk on August 07, 2016, 02:02:46 PM
How the hell did you do that?


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Setanta on August 08, 2016, 03:47:52 AM
I spent a couple of hours solo-leveling a WD and hitting 6 piece/rewards. It's been 12 months since I last played one and the cookie cutter build is terribly boring :(

I used to play the Jade set that was always doing something ... and miss it.

I have my pet etc and may go play something else - I just wanted a break from barb/monk/'sader



Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Yegolev on August 08, 2016, 03:43:04 PM
The dude in the picture is Jebb.  He had a mod which caused him to spawn bats.  A lot of bats.  My monk laughed because of Uliana's and EP shenanigans.  Then the bats didn't stop.  I actually gave up and left with 2400+ kills.  This gives you a 4x multiplier.  Then I came back and Jebb was still there.  I tried to pick up some loot but bats, EP, 2400 kills.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on October 01, 2016, 01:33:56 AM
Season 7 to end Oct 14 at 5 PM PST.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on October 02, 2016, 05:34:53 PM
Possibly of interest.

The forums are saying the season is ending a month early.  There's no talk of a 2.x.x patch.  There is only a one week gap between Season 7 and Season 8.

It appears to be a progression reset without content.

The forums are only slightly up in arms.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Ragnoros on October 02, 2016, 07:23:03 PM
I'm not surprised to see the game in maintenance mode. Blizz games tend to run on cycles. New thing comes out, then they work on updates and new content which they release as it finishes for about a year, then they go dark for a good while working on major patches, expansions, or new games.  It's fairly obvious the Diablo devs have gone dark and are into development of either another expansion, Diablo 4, or some other random project.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Malakili on October 02, 2016, 07:37:57 PM
Blizzcon is coming up, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Diablo related announcement.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on October 03, 2016, 12:19:46 AM
Given their diablo Twitter account said there's shit at blizzcon... Yes


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Malakili on October 03, 2016, 10:29:30 AM
You'll have to forgive me for not following Blizzard's twitter accounts.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on October 03, 2016, 11:36:44 AM
I don't either. It was linked on Reddit.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on October 03, 2016, 03:26:32 PM
Who the hell reads Reddit.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: rattran on October 03, 2016, 03:48:37 PM
The kind of people who follow Blizzard's twitter accounts.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 21, 2016, 09:32:36 AM
Can't argue with that logic.

Here's to hoping for Diablo 4 in 5 years.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Nebu on October 21, 2016, 11:01:43 AM
Is the new season starting tonight?  Any significant changes or more of the WD, Monk, Wiz thing?


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: March on October 21, 2016, 12:14:32 PM
Yes, hotfix, er, Season 8 is live.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/20324406


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Merusk on October 21, 2016, 04:27:04 PM
It is?  Just started it up and it said no season was available.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Nebu on October 21, 2016, 06:28:01 PM
It is?  Just started it up and it said no season was available.

They usually start at 5pm PST.  Maybe it's opening then.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on October 22, 2016, 10:27:08 AM
I started a wizard, but give about a 95% chance I will roll a DH at some point.

 :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Draegan on October 22, 2016, 12:14:30 PM
Nothing new this season. Meeeeeeeh.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Setanta on October 22, 2016, 02:40:09 PM
Thought about it... don't care. It's just more of the same.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Merusk on October 23, 2016, 07:20:45 PM
Yeah, It seems most people don't care. Hard to find games to level up in, even Friday night. Those who ARE playing bitch at people looking for games to hop in to and leech.

I'm just going for the wings and the border then I'll drop like I did last season.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Paelos on October 24, 2016, 11:43:40 AM
They've moved on to another expansion or another game it seems.

Frankly I'd be happy if they brought out D4 and redid a ton of the mistakes they created with this one from the ground up.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Rasix on October 24, 2016, 11:50:43 AM
Yah, I think I'm going to sit this one out.  Who knows, I may get bored enough.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on January 01, 2017, 02:29:50 PM
When does the next season start? Getting a bit of an itch.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Xanthippe on January 01, 2017, 06:51:43 PM
Season 9 begins Friday, January 6 at 5:00 p.m. PST in North America, 5:00 p.m. CEST in Europe, and 5:00 p.m. KST in Asia.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/20407576/first-look-season-9-12-23-2016 (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/20407576/first-look-season-9-12-23-2016)


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on January 01, 2017, 07:16:02 PM
Season Nothingburger, Volume 3


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on January 03, 2017, 09:10:43 PM
Barbs get the Leapquake set. That makes it sorta tempting, since that is fun to play.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Xanthippe on January 08, 2017, 11:47:36 AM
I wouldn't say it's a Nothingburger.

The Labyrinth is awesome. (Special event for 20 year Diablo anniversary). Worth playing just for that alone.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Malakili on January 08, 2017, 12:10:26 PM
I played through it once. It took something like 20 minutes and was kind of cute, but I wouldn't call it a reason to play this patch unless you REALLY have a hankering to play Diablo 3 with a pixelated filter, some wonky animations, and a few gimmicky pieces of loot that you won't use.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Xanthippe on January 09, 2017, 08:33:19 AM
The cow pet makes it all very worthwhile. The Butcher pet, too, although I have yet to get that one, which requires starting through the portal with a level 1 character.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Yegolev on January 09, 2017, 09:57:22 AM
I like gimmicks.  Otherwise I think I'd hate everything.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Morat20 on January 09, 2017, 07:20:27 PM
The cow pet makes it all very worthwhile. The Butcher pet, too, although I have yet to get that one, which requires starting through the portal with a level 1 character.
The level 1 run was easy, as long as you go straight for the portal. I think you have to have 0 XP when you enter, so you can't kill anyone on the way. I didn't even grab a follower or assign paragon points. I just ran into the portal, then town portaled out and did all that.

The whole thing is built on a level 1 run -- I noticed that all the loot (on later runs, trying to get all the bosses) might say "level 70" but a lot of the stats don't scale right. Kinda weird to get a 4.4 DPS sword at level 70.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Xanthippe on January 12, 2017, 09:01:18 AM
You can have a follower, and you can assign paragon points, but don't kill anything until you enter the portal. I did it as a level 1 and ended up at level 30 (I think), on hard, and crafted Born's and Cain's but didn't have a gem of ease.



Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: March on February 03, 2017, 06:43:55 PM
Patch 2.5 has a couple of nice QoL new features...
http://us.battle.net//d3/en/blog/20529333 (http://us.battle.net//d3/en/blog/20529333)

Is 2.5 going to be Season 9 or a mid-season patch?

Not sure there's enough to compel me to login either way, but just curious... there that'll teach them to keep ignoring my $0 subscription.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Pagz on February 03, 2017, 07:32:53 PM
Primal Ancients?

Ugh.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Nebu on February 03, 2017, 07:52:32 PM
Primal Ancients?

Ugh.

One year later... Ancient Primal Ancients. 

Gotta love power creep. 

Glad to see the Armory and crafting tab though...


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on February 03, 2017, 08:27:29 PM
That will probably be Season 10.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on February 03, 2017, 10:54:24 PM
Primal ancients isnt even power creep, power creep is the rejiggering of sets and handing them to players to crush through the lack of content.

Primal ancients is them admitting theyre a creatively bankrupt design team.

Time for D4. Rehire Bnorth.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on February 08, 2017, 05:16:46 PM
Between the Armory saving builds and the abolishing of bonus bounties, that is a pretty solid QoL patch.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Merusk on February 08, 2017, 08:32:27 PM
Yeah, I agree.

Aside from the bitching about Primal Ancients it's a good patch.  I don't get *some* of the bitching there, either. Yeah it's creatively devoid, but the people complaining "i can't get a group without an Ancient legendary weapon as is, now you're going to make it worse?"  What the fuck game are they playing said groups are mandatory at all?


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Nebu on February 08, 2017, 09:34:06 PM
Are Necros coming this patch?


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Reg on February 09, 2017, 11:43:58 AM
I think Necros are coming with a paid expansion.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: schild on February 09, 2017, 11:44:29 AM
Necros ARE the paid expansion.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Soulflame on February 09, 2017, 01:51:21 PM
Which is not that enthralling.  Even for $10.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: WayAbvPar on February 13, 2017, 09:53:20 AM
Is there really an expansion coming? I was hoping for D4 sooner rather than later.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Reg on February 13, 2017, 09:57:36 AM
D4 is years away sadly.


Title: Re: Patch 2.4.1 and Season 6- goblins ahoy!
Post by: Merusk on February 13, 2017, 10:16:57 AM
At least 6. Probably more.