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Title: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Strazos on October 04, 2015, 11:47:28 PM
Sooooo...who's excited?

I'll still watch every game of theirs that I can, but...the Flyers should probably suck this year still, especially with 8 defensemen on 1-way contracts blocking exciting rookies from spots. Six of which are probably bottom-6 quality. :oh_i_see:

Honestly, if they're not going to win it all, I'd rather they just really suck and hope for draft position. As long as they continue to wreck the Penguins.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ceryse on October 05, 2015, 12:15:48 AM
I'm interested (as always) for the start of hockey. A lot of interesting things could happen this year. The off-season drama was.. interesting and brought to mind the NFL or NBA, but, oh well.

Oilers this year should be an interesting story. One of the best forward groups in the league.. and by and large they'll have a defensive core worthy of the Oakland Seals. Goaltending could be a massive issue as well (waiving Scrivens means the Oilers will have the least experienced starter/backup in the league... after two years straight of goalies absolutely shitting the bed). Be nice if they could find a way to move (or retire) Ference, but at least we now have a GM/Coach combo that will get shit done and things moving the right direction. We'll have more than 10 million in salary in the minors or pressbox! And that's a good thing! At least Schultz looks like he's turning things around (so far this pre-season he looks like a completely different player.. he actually looks like he gives a shit!). Eberle hurt sucks, though, especially with our first 20 games coming against playoff bound teams, or teams that were in the playoffs last year, and the Oilers having to learn how to be a team in the National Hockey League from an actual NHL Head Coach. Coiuld be a rough start, but I have the Oilers getting around 81 points this season. Not great, but much improved.

Most importantly, I can supplement my income with betting again, although I'm going to have a much smaller budget for it this year due to real life expenses.

And I'm still pissed about the Marincin trade.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Fordel on October 05, 2015, 05:54:26 AM
I'm ready!

(http://i.imgur.com/BFsI6C4.jpg)




Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Shannow on October 05, 2015, 07:53:19 AM
Thats gold Fordel.

Who knows what the Bruins will do, we have some of the core left but our D Line could be fucking terrible if Chara and Seidenberg continue to regress.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 05, 2015, 10:09:59 AM
I could not be less excited. Jim "Tommy Boy" Benning has utterly destroyed the present and future hopes of the Canucks. They were going to need to rebuild, but starting the rebuilding off by signing Dorsett, Sbisa, and now Sutter to multiyear deals is just beyond idiotic. My only hope now is that the Sedins get traded somewhere else, and that Seattle unfucks itself and gets a team. Because the Canucks are set to have a decade of darkness just like the Oilers did after their SCF appearance.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on October 05, 2015, 10:49:59 AM
Things are already spinning out in Philly...
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=781257
Hextall puts MacDonald (5 years, 25$ million remaining on contract) on waivers... No takers so far. Flyers will save 1$ million cap if he is sent to AHL, but that's 4$ million dead space each year next 5 years.

My Habs haven't made any significant changes, hoping to stick with what worked for them last year. Price between the pipes being a top 3 goalie, and an excellent D in front of him, mostly vets with some offensive skill. They were slightly below average offensively last season, and no big splashes were made, but hoping to get decent seasons out of vet reclamation projects (Semin, Fleischman), along with upping their bottom 10 power play with some coaching changes, could lead to marginal overall offensive improvement.

And yeah, the Canucks seem boned...Even if they trade the Sedins for young/prospect talent, it's just a start. No guarantee of a quick rebound. Young talent can flop out, or a dumb GM can screw it up.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 05, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
I don't care what they get for them. I just want them to end their careers on a team that has a hope of winning a Cup. This one doesn't.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on October 05, 2015, 11:24:58 AM
Would be tough to swing the trade with 14$ million, especially to a contender which are usually tight to cap already from their core players (who are usually pretty good, being contenders).

Montreal could swing it actually, would have to do something like Plekanec, Eller and Emelin going back, just for salary. Then I guess throw in pick/prospects (or Gallagher could be part of deal, but he's pretty valuable).


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ginaz on October 05, 2015, 02:02:10 PM
Bo Horvat and Jake Virtanen have both looked really good in the pre-season for Vancouver.  Sven Baertschi was actually pretty decent as well, but who knows if that will last.  They did put two other young players,Frank Corrado and Linden Vey, on waivers so all is not rosey for the Canucks.  I see Vancouver either as a team that barely makes it into the playoffs and goes nowhere, like last year, or bombs out hard and gets a high lottery pick like they did the year before.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Strazos on October 06, 2015, 12:14:54 AM
Things are already spinning out in Philly...
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=781257
Hextall puts MacDonald (5 years, 25$ million remaining on contract) on waivers... No takers so far. Flyers will save 1$ million cap if he is sent to AHL, but that's 4$ million dead space each year next 5 years.

Spinning out? That's actually a fantastic move - MacDonald is pure garbage and has no role on the team. He's easily the worst defenseman they have, and the defense is horrendous.

At least this way he's not sucking up a roster spot. The dead cap space sucks, but that'll be less problematic if the cap continues to rise and as more of these bad contracts come off the books. I'm looking at you, Vinny and RJ...

And hey, maybe when expansion happens, they can make some kind of trade for future considerations, which includes taking MacDonald in the expansion draft.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Bunk on October 07, 2015, 01:46:45 PM
Corrado on waivers was an unfortunate left over of the previous regime. Someone decided it would be brilliant to play Corrado in a playoff game against the Sharks in a series that was already a foregone conclusion. Had he not played that one meaningless game, he wouldn't have had to go on waivers this year.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Fordel on October 07, 2015, 10:59:47 PM
It's going to be a long ass season here.

Long, Loooooong Season.  :psyduck:


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ceryse on October 25, 2015, 11:38:32 PM
Whelp; Oilers got robbed of at least one point tonight by shoddy reffing and Toronto head offices. Goal dis-allowed with a clear replay showing it across the line. Nice to see the tradition of the NHL having the worst officiating continuing.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on October 26, 2015, 09:08:33 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qETBucb0KZQ

This is not clear at all... Quick's glove gets over it as it gets to line. I sure can't tell if it crossed or not.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Shannow on October 26, 2015, 10:23:02 AM
Agree with Speedy, it's not clear and even if it does cross the line (which it might not of) you can't see the puck so there's no way for the referee to overturn the on ice decision.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ceryse on October 26, 2015, 04:12:54 PM
I disagree, because of the movement of the puck (its in the air a bit, hits the glove, then hits the ice -- behind the line) we can tell it is actually behind the line; https://vine.co/v/eYaHt7LvF9O

Now, the Oilers got robbed of a point. As an Oiler fan I am pissed about it. That said, I understand why the no-goal was called. In today's age, however, there should be no doubt when a puck crosses the line, but the NHL doesn't seem to have the interest in using high end equipment to remove that issue. I mean, in the end it doesn't matter that the Oilers lost a point or two last night. But for playoffs? It should be sorted.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ginaz on December 14, 2015, 09:47:50 PM
The NHL all star voting has been going for a few weeks now and leading everyone in the voting is...John Scott. :awesome_for_real:

https://allstarvote.nhl.com/en-us/LeaderBoard


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on December 15, 2015, 10:33:35 AM
Still not as big a joke as a bunch of sub .500 Western teams sitting in playoff positions. NHL needs to hurry up and balance the conference #s.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Shannow on December 15, 2015, 10:38:56 AM
The Jagr in second place!


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ceryse on December 16, 2015, 01:02:32 AM
Still not as big a joke as a bunch of sub .500 Western teams sitting in playoff positions. NHL needs to hurry up and balance the conference #s.

Yes, because the East has never had a problem with that, even when the conferences had an equal number of teams, right? Do you not remember the South-East Division at all? At least wait until closer to the end of the season to start up such idiotic mumblings; as these things, especially out in the West, tend to get sorted out the closer to the end you get.

It is actually tougher to make the playoffs in the West, despite the fewer teams, because there are more quality teams.

This season you're seeing the standings oddity creep up because of a couple reasons, but primarily because there are no real bottom feeders emerging in the West (i.e.; the Oilers and Coyotes aren't complete shit-fests for once), which means fewer points for the other teams (a couple teams tried to emerge as a bottom feeder, like the Canucks, but they've gone all Eastern Conference with their Bettman points). But also because you have a lot more Bettman points out East (15+ more loser points), which inflates the number of points in the East compared to the West, because not all games are equal in terms of points awarded (which is retarded, but hey.. we call it the Bettman point for a reason).

There's a reason that as bad as teams like the Oilers have been the past few years, they still managed to get a decent amount of points; the Eastern conference (the Oilers, a team that was able to win only one game against their own division last year, were above 0.500 against the East; because the East is a cakewalk comparatively).

Personally, I wish every team played the other conference 41 times, and we could go back to the top 16 make the playoffs, with zero protected slots like you get now (and that helped a number of South-East division teams in the past..) but that'll never happen because the league is focused on forcing in-division rivalries.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on December 16, 2015, 10:02:33 AM
Youe continued insistence that the eastern conference is some kind of sub-NHL level hockey is just bordering on bizarre at this point, especially to forward the argument that it's somehow harder to make the playoffs in the west despite the fact that just due to straight up #s it's 15% easier because of spot availability per team.  You're argument that there are less bottom feeders also doesn't conform to actual facts since the west has 5/14 teams below W/L .500, while the east has 4/16 teams. If you want to go by true Bettman points .500 (which is on a pace for 92 pts), the west has 8/14 teams below .500, while the east has 7/16.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ginaz on December 16, 2015, 01:09:47 PM
Youe continued insistence that the eastern conference is some kind of sub-NHL level hockey is just bordering on bizarre at this point, especially to forward the argument that it's somehow harder to make the playoffs in the west despite the fact that just due to straight up #s it's 15% easier because of spot availability per team.  You're argument that there are less bottom feeders also doesn't conform to actual facts since the west has 5/14 teams below W/L .500, while the east has 4/16 teams. If you want to go by true Bettman points .500 (which is on a pace for 92 pts), the west has 8/14 teams below .500, while the east has 7/16.

Apart from a couple of teams, the entire eastern conference has been a giant shit show for the past 10 years.  Seven of the last ten Cups have been won by a western team (Detroit was in the west when they won in 2008) and apart from a fluke win by Carolina in 2006, the only teams from the east to win were Boston and Pittsburgh.  When you factor in how much lighter the travel schedule is for eastern teams in general, it makes their lack of success even more glaring.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Shannow on December 17, 2015, 06:27:24 AM
Meh, randomness and cycles. 7 out of 10 of those Cups were won by 2 teams. Is this really an arguement?

BTW Pittsburgh looks woeful this year. Couldn't happen to a bunch of nicer guys.. :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Phildo on December 17, 2015, 09:29:45 AM
To quote one of my favorite hockey scholars, shut your yap.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on January 01, 2016, 12:49:27 PM
Really liking this Winter Classic camera work. Gets you more involved in the speed/movement of the play and also even manages to show a bit more ice.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ginaz on January 02, 2016, 02:46:37 PM
Ok, so...not only does John Scott make it into the all star game but he was named captain of the Pacific division. :awesome_for_real: :ye_gods: :grin:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/john-scott-all-star-game-captain-1.3387236


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on January 03, 2016, 06:50:46 PM
Really liking this Winter Classic camera work. Gets you more involved in the speed/movement of the play and also even manages to show a bit more ice.

Habs sweaters were on point too.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Belasco on January 16, 2016, 12:16:21 AM
Ok, so...not only does John Scott make it into the all star game but he was named captain of the Pacific division. :awesome_for_real: :ye_gods: :grin:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/john-scott-all-star-game-captain-1.3387236

John Scott will not only no longer be captaining the Pacific, but he will not be in the ASG at all.  Traded to Montreal as a throw-in in a weird three way deal (he literally has no trade value) and promptly sent to the AHL.

Depending on your belief in conspiracy theories, the NHL may have orchestrated this trade to get this exact result.  Too bad for Scott, he seemed to embrace the whole thing and be a good sport about it.

Oh and Go Hawks  :-P




Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ginaz on January 17, 2016, 04:40:21 PM
Ok, so...not only does John Scott make it into the all star game but he was named captain of the Pacific division. :awesome_for_real: :ye_gods: :grin:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/john-scott-all-star-game-captain-1.3387236

John Scott will not only no longer be captaining the Pacific, but he will not be in the ASG at all.  Traded to Montreal as a throw-in in a weird three way deal (he literally has no trade value) and promptly sent to the AHL.

Depending on your belief in conspiracy theories, the NHL may have orchestrated this trade to get this exact result.  Too bad for Scott, he seemed to embrace the whole thing and be a good sport about it.

Oh and Go Hawks  :-P




If thats the case (and it seems like it is) then he should get the union to file a grievance on his behalf.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on January 18, 2016, 03:07:06 PM
The NHLPA is already threatening the NHL.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ginaz on February 01, 2016, 01:44:53 AM
And John Scott is your NHL All Star Game MVP! :awesome_for_real: :heart:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-all-star-game-recap-1.3427978


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ceryse on February 01, 2016, 05:07:17 AM
Didn't watch the game (because, well, it's a pointless game), but I was thrilled to see Scott not only get the MVP, but that he actually earned it. Was also nice to see how the players/fans there thoroughly supported him and even a number of people in the media who bitched about him going admitted they were wrong.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: murdoc on February 09, 2016, 11:56:16 AM
Leafs and Sens make a 9 player trade that includes Phaneuf.

http://www.tsn.ca/maple-leafs-deal-d-phaneuf-to-senators-in-nine-player-trade-1.435458


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on February 09, 2016, 01:48:11 PM
He is so bad. I get Ottawa is desperate for D-men but they will regret this.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Fordel on February 10, 2016, 12:19:26 AM
He is so bad. I get Ottawa is desperate for D-men but they will regret this.

Total agreement.

I remember when we (Toronto) made that big trade with Calgary and I thought 'man how did we manage this great deal!' not really grasping how big of a pylon Phaneuf actually was. He's a name that comes across as a solid player if you only have a vague idea of his play. Once you actually see it day in and day out though...  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on February 10, 2016, 11:20:34 AM
I love seeing that shithead exposed for the grossly overrated pile of garbage that he is.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ginaz on February 14, 2016, 09:24:20 PM
And Ottawa is now 0 and Phaneuf since the trade. :awesome_for_real:  Not only that but he has looked like absolute garbage for all of about 10 mins of those games.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on February 15, 2016, 01:27:30 PM
0 and Phaneuf
:awesome_for_real:

That made me legitimately LOL.

About the only thing about this season that is making me smile. God the Canucks are a dumpster fire. Like anyone outside of the Canucks front office could have predicted.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on February 29, 2016, 02:55:18 PM
Really keen to see Eric Staal on the Rangers. Pretty sick player to have on your 3rd line. I think they have been forgotten with all the Washington hype and after they got knocked down in the east standings with a brutal month of December. They have been playing great hockey since then, very tight.



Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Fordel on February 29, 2016, 04:15:26 PM
I'm kinda bummed we traded Reimer away, he's good people. :(


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on February 29, 2016, 04:42:13 PM
Poor Brooks Laich. Going from the Caps to the Leafs is just fucking wrong. Wish he would gone to the Islanders, which is gathering a collection of former Seattle Thunderbirds.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ginaz on March 01, 2016, 09:32:31 AM
What an anti-climactic trade deadline yesterday was.  When Kris Russell (who is a good D man and a shot blocking machine but is only a 3-4 pairing guy) is the most high profile player dealt, you know it's a slow day.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Strazos on March 17, 2016, 01:27:14 AM
So apparently, the Flyers cannot manage to beat a horrendous EDM team...but sweeps CHI, allowing them to creep back into the #8 slot in the east?

I'm a bit torn, because I was expecting them to pick up one last high first-round pick before really getting their rebuild going.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Strazos on April 12, 2016, 11:38:11 PM
So, loooooool Boston.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on April 13, 2016, 10:23:58 AM
Good offence but they had no business in the playoffs anyway with that D

I think the Rangers win the East, and the West is whatever team comes out of that California deathmatch.

I'm just not sold on the Capitals ability to play defence, although maybe Holtby can carry them.

Stars vs Wild - Wild in 7 ( stars another team that doesn't have D)
Blues vs Hawks - Blues in 6 (Blues year to go to WCF, but then again we have overestimated them before)
Ducks vs Predators - Ducks in 5 (I like the Preds, but inconsistent while Ducks are excellent)
Kings vs Sharks - Kings in 7 (basically a toss up)

Islanders vs Panthers - Panthers in 5 (too many injuries for Islanders)
Lightning vs Red Wings - Red Wings in 7 (too many injuries for Bolts)
Capitals vs Flyers - Capitals in 6 (Should be intense & entertaining, but Flyers aren't there yet)
Penguins vs Rangers - Rangers in 5 (too many injuries for Pens)


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Strazos on April 13, 2016, 07:50:36 PM
Rangers have injuries as well, and the is past its prime - I picked Washington to take it all over the Stars.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on April 13, 2016, 08:44:02 PM
Any team that has Eric Staal as their 3rd line center is pretty deep. Although Henrik getting a stick in his eye in the 1st period is an auspicious start...

What's up with those yellow t-shirts they gave out in Pittsburgh? Painful to look at. They're not even the right colour.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on April 13, 2016, 11:54:49 PM
Good offence but they had no business in the playoffs anyway with that D

I think the Rangers win the East, and the West is whatever team comes out of that California deathmatch.

I'm just not sold on the Capitals ability to play defence, although maybe Holtby can carry them.

Stars vs Wild - Wild in 7 ( stars another team that doesn't have D)
Blues vs Hawks - Blues in 6 (Blues year to go to WCF, but then again we have overestimated them before)
Ducks vs Predators - Ducks in 5 (I like the Preds, but inconsistent while Ducks are excellent)
Kings vs Sharks - Kings in 7 (basically a toss up)

Islanders vs Panthers - Panthers in 5 (too many injuries for Islanders)
Lightning vs Red Wings - Red Wings in 7 (too many injuries for Bolts)
Capitals vs Flyers - Capitals in 6 (Should be intense & entertaining, but Flyers aren't there yet)
Penguins vs Rangers - Rangers in 5 (too many injuries for Pens)


Stars v Wild- Dallas in 6
Blues v Blackhawks- Chicago in 7
Ducks v Preds- Anaheim in 5
Kings v Sharks- LA  in 7

Islanders v Panthers- Florida in 7
Lightning v Red Wings- Detroit in 6
Caps v Flyers- Caps Washington in 5
Penguins v Rangers- NY in 6


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on April 15, 2016, 01:20:40 PM
I see Roberto Luongo is right back in playoff shape. I love the guy, but he is shaky as hell in the postseason.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on April 28, 2016, 11:02:16 AM
Went to maybe the most exciting hockey game I have ever attended last night. Seattle Thunderbirds v Kelowna Rockets. Seattle up 3-0 in the WHL WCF, Kelowna takes a 4-2 lead into the last 2 minutes of the 3rd period. Seattle scores with 1:15 left to get within 1, then scores again with 2.7 seconds left to take it to OT. 2nd OT a rookie who didn't play a minute of the first OT gets a semi-breakaway and beats the goalie for the win and sweep.

Kelowna goaltender was amazing- 71 saves on 76 shots! We were sitting 16 rows up directly behind him on the last shot. Amazing game.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on April 28, 2016, 01:32:48 PM
We did that in my beer league playoffs last year in game 3 of a best of 3 elimination game, although they were so shattered we won 2 mins into OT. Moments like that make sport great.

Oh yeah, like Boston did to the Leafs also haha.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Shannow on May 13, 2016, 05:19:56 AM
So I'm digging the Western Conference this year giving us Sharks / Blues, however fuck the Eastern Conference for giving us the Penguins and a Stamkos less Lightning *snnoooore*. I wanted to see Ovechkin play for a cup.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ceryse on May 13, 2016, 07:42:10 AM
I'm basically done with the playoffs now. I have zero interest in any of the teams remaining. Hell, none of the four remaining teams are ones I'd even like to win the cup, but the team I'd prefer to win it (that's left) is Tampa.. simply because I don't dislike them as much as I do the other three.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on May 13, 2016, 08:18:52 AM
Looks like two great conf finals to me. I don't get the griping. What's wrong with Bolts vs Pens?? Stamkos might be back soon, Kucherov & Hedman are playing great.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Shannow on May 13, 2016, 05:42:46 PM
I usually base things on teams who won the cup last.  So fuck Pitt and the snoring.  You really want to see Crosby and Kessell win a cup? Really?


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on May 13, 2016, 09:13:09 PM
They're playing great hockey, gotta respect that.

Bishop carted off on a stretcher, leg injury, doesn't look good for the bolts.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Strazos on May 14, 2016, 01:46:16 AM
I'd rather see the Blues or Sharks win - neither has won a cup, and neither has really tanked to victory.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Phildo on May 27, 2016, 08:50:26 AM
Couldn't be happier with the cup finals this year.  I'm a Penguins fan, but I like the Sharks as well.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 27, 2016, 04:46:58 PM
Go food chain!


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: 01101010 on May 27, 2016, 05:34:42 PM
Dreading going downtown during this non-sense. Nightmare forthcoming.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on May 29, 2016, 08:20:56 PM
should be a great final, like both of these teams and they both have players who are great with the puck and a treat to watch.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Phildo on May 31, 2016, 08:16:55 AM
Suck it, food chain.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on May 31, 2016, 11:05:12 AM
The worst part about it is it was a former Canuck that scored the GWG. Sigh.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on June 08, 2016, 10:05:16 AM
The Pens are a very bad match up for the Sharks since they play the same game but the Pens are playing marginally better basically at every position. Their star forwards are better, their supporting forwards are better, their #1 D-man has been better, so have the rest of the D, and their goaltending has been better. It's all still very close, but that's the difference in the games. They are outcoaching the Sharks too, they have covered Pavelski and Burns VERY tightly on the powerplay and the Sharks have not adapted at all, just making slow perimeter passes and shooting into shot blockers. Looking like Burns has been seriously overrated, he is the worst offender at not being able to adapt his game, he just keeps shooting into guys shinpads when they are right in front of him.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Strazos on June 08, 2016, 10:08:46 PM
Yeah, it's been pretty depressing to try to watch this. On paper, I would have thought the Sharks would win this in a walk. But the Pens, with their small collection of stars and with a bunch of jobbers filling in the gaps...are making the Sharks look sloppy, slow, and impotent.

Sharks are not making clean breakouts hardly at all, everything they do seems far too deliberate, and they're making defensive mistakes resulting in shit goals. I don't put much of this at all on Jones.

Pens are simply red-hot at the perfect time and over-performing, which is depressing.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on June 09, 2016, 08:41:56 AM
I don't know about over-performing... They have been the best team in hockey since like February. They are very well coached and have a lot of talent and it's not a coincidence both teams look similar, they are both playing high quality hockey. The Pens lucky break (asides from staying healthy, which is a luck pre-requisite for any deep playofff run) was Matt Murray pulling a Patrick Roy cuz I am not sure they get this far with Marc Andre. Fleury.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Phildo on June 12, 2016, 10:07:41 PM
Penguins in six!


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on June 13, 2016, 12:02:40 PM
I may never stop vomiting.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: 01101010 on June 13, 2016, 02:51:30 PM
I am seriously debating on going to the parade just to see one since I am from Cleveland and have no idea how this works. I am not sure how I feel about that... since I actually have been a Pens fan since I was 8.

That said, Crosby gets the Smythe? A bit of a stretch.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Strazos on June 13, 2016, 09:06:23 PM
Pens got some lucky and/or weak goals, but...well, there's a bit of luck involved in winning a cup.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ceryse on June 29, 2016, 02:50:41 PM
Sigh.

Fucking Oilers.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Bunk on June 29, 2016, 03:19:03 PM
And... now no one cares what the Oilers did.  Suban for Weber, holy schnikies.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on June 29, 2016, 04:37:13 PM
Oilers got it hard. A top 10 winger in the league for a guy who has potential but is still a prospect? Every GM in the league must be thinking they would offered more for Hall.

Apparently Subban was heavily disliked by his teammates and coaches, kind of an arrogant loudmouth. I love him as a player though, very special, treat to watch, every little movement he does is so powerful and agile he is almost impossible to check. That said if there is any guy I love as much as him it's weber. Just a fantastic player, top 5 damn in league. His cannon slapper and its reliability helps the dismal PP more than Subbban too. This trade makes Montréal better now but carries more medium term risk.

 Bergevin stated a year ago he wants to make the Habs a tough team to play against. Adding shaw now weber does that. I can see them going very hard for Ladd now too. He is turning Montréal into a west cont team.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ceryse on June 29, 2016, 04:57:04 PM
I don't think a lot of teams were offering better than NJ did for Hall in terms of what Edmonton needed. There was no way Edmonton was going to win a Hall trade (he was basically guaranteed to be the best player in any kind of deal; hell, only two LWers have out-scored him in the last couple years -- and that's if you count Ovi as LW instead of RW). A lot fo teams could have made a better offer on Hall.. but that would have meant bringing in forwards and defense-men who play the left side. Edmonton needed defense-men who played the right side (going into today we actually only had one; Mark Fayne, who were RHD). As such, the Oilers got fucked.. but it may end up improving the team because the best forwards in the league are meaningless if your D is trash (as Edmonton has seen for the past five years). Larsson isn't as bad as Speedy makes him out to be; but he is unproven. There is definite risk there. Chiarelli was under the gun already, but now he is very much hanging with his job on the line.

Still, the Oilers are likely to bring in Lucic on the 1st, and may bring in Demers in addition to that. Further, there is likely a trade that'll happen considering we have 11-13 LHD that are NHL capable.

Still...

Fucking Oilers.

As for the Subban trade.. dumb trade, but only because of the age situation. Weber is a great player, but on the wrong side of the curve. Subban, meanwhile, will likely only improve his game playing the the defense factory that is Nashville.

At least Stamkos stuck his finger in the eye of the Toronto media by staying in Tampa at 8.5 mil per year.


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on June 29, 2016, 05:08:30 PM
I really think I would rather be an Oilers fan than a Canucks fan right now. Jim Benning is just an utter and complete apocalyptic disaster. And you could always go back and watch highlights from the 80s =)


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: Ceryse on June 29, 2016, 06:28:46 PM
It is generally accepted by Oiler fans that the last 6-7 years (the period during which we've been absolutely terrible), and the period from ~'93 to '08 (the period in which we were semi-competitive but not really due to financial reasons only) are all the fault of the '80s and the Hockey Gods punishing us for that team (and unnecessary dismantling thereof).

Thankfully, I was alive to watch and enjoy at least the latter part of the '80s team (and saw the rest growing up on tape -- tapes I still have, actually).


Title: Re: NHL 2015-2016
Post by: WayAbvPar on July 01, 2016, 02:55:17 PM
Those teams are what got me into hockey. 99 remains my favorite sports figure of all time.