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Title: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Sir T on August 19, 2015, 10:01:43 AM
From http://gizmodo.com/the-ashley-madison-hackers-just-released-all-of-their-s-1724920693

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Well, this should be interesting. Hackers who claim to have stolen data from Ashley Madison, the dating site for cheaters, recently posted nearly 10-gigabytes of said stolen data. That includes member email addresses, credit card transactions, and even profiles. This should be very interesting.

The data can be found on the dark web, and those who’ve already downloaded it say they’re finding all kinds of juicy gossip. (One person searched for British government emails, for instance.) The hackers themselves, however, don’t seem at all miffed about this massive release of purportedly private and possibly damaging information. Because Ashley Madison’s parent company, Avid Life Media, refused the hackers’ demand to take down the site, they don’t think the users deserve privacy.

The Ashley Madison Hackers Just Released a Ton of Stolen Data

Calling themselves the Impact Team, the hackers said:

    We have explained the fraud, deceit, and stupidity of ALM and their members. Now everyone gets to see their data … Keep in mind the site is a scam with thousands of fake female profiles. See ashley madison fake profile lawsuit; 90-95% of actual users are male. Chances are your man signed up on the world’s biggest affair site, but never had one. He just tried to. If that distinction matters. …

    Too bad for those men, they’re cheating dirtbags and deserve no such discretion. Too bad for ALM, you promised secrecy but didn’t deliver.…

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--OoE-xuta--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1391620928117849381.png)

Well at least they seem honest?

Here’s a screenshot of the full statement included with the release:

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--RERfgadU--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1391620928171645221.png)

The Ashley Madison Hackers Just Released a Ton of Stolen Data

[Wired, Ars Technica]

Lots of links to the data and statements and stuff at the link.

Once again we are forced to call both sides assholes.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: jgsugden on August 19, 2015, 12:35:09 PM
I'm just waiting to see what the media does with the information - and the circus that will follow.  So many divorces, law suits, political careers changed, etc....


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Paelos on August 19, 2015, 12:52:03 PM
Karma, and all that. Sneak around and lie, have your lies exposed by other dirty people.

Or if you prefer,

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Now no one after lighting a lamp covers it over with a container, or puts it under a bed; but he puts it on a lampstand, so that those who come in may see the light. For nothing is hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come to light.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Khaldun on August 19, 2015, 02:03:40 PM
Please, let's not feed the people behind this justifications for doing it. They're not defending marriage, they're motivated like the Joker in The Dark Knight: it's for the lulz.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on August 19, 2015, 02:15:34 PM
Yeah the high level moralizing is kind of nauseating. That said, having some lulz at the expense of hypocrites and liars has been part of the human tradition for time immemorial.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Miasma on August 19, 2015, 02:27:48 PM
Not exactly high moral ground but if they had just demanded a couple million dollars they probably would have got it, instead they wanted the site shut down.  Insert shitty hero we deserve meme.

Edit: Clarifying.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Threash on August 19, 2015, 02:42:11 PM
Please, let's not feed the people behind this justifications for doing it. They're not defending marriage, they're motivated like the Joker in The Dark Knight: it's for the lulz.

Well it is very lulzy.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: taolurker on August 19, 2015, 02:43:02 PM
I have not seen a single news organization discuss the rampant fraud of having 90-95% male members, and mostly fake female profiles... Which to me is the larger and more "newsworthy" part of the release. CNN has spent 15 mins of every hour on this, and not a single mention of the site being fraud, but instead focusing on how the site was claiming "SEKRET" and instead had their complete anonymity destroyed.. I'd say it was literally impossible to cheat using that site if the only female profiles were fraudulent ones. Way to focus on the real story, dumbass news people.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: HaemishM on August 19, 2015, 03:01:09 PM
Way to focus on the real story, dumbass news people.

So business as usual then.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Velorath on August 19, 2015, 03:06:16 PM
I have not seen a single news organization discuss the rampant fraud of having 90-95% male members, and mostly fake female profiles... Which to me is the larger and more "newsworthy" part of the release. CNN has spent 15 mins of every hour on this, and not a single mention of the site being fraud, but instead focusing on how the site was claiming "SEKRET" and instead had their complete anonymity destroyed.. I'd say it was literally impossible to cheat using that site if the only female profiles were fraudulent ones. Way to focus on the real story, dumbass news people.

"Hot women online dying to have sex with you turn out to actually be men" isn't exactly newsworthy either.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Miasma on August 19, 2015, 03:12:43 PM
I think that's old news.  Didn't one of the latest fad sites have to admit to sending "winks" from made up women as soon as a guy's membership lapsed/terminated?


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: jgsugden on August 19, 2015, 03:15:08 PM
Come on now.  95% men just means that the women need to be 2000% as slutty.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Cadaverine on August 19, 2015, 03:35:57 PM
So, apparently, Josh Duggar, child afficienado and family values advocate, had a paid AM account.  Color me shocked.

http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-1725132091 (http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-1725132091)


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: jgsugden on August 19, 2015, 03:45:33 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_x6QmuJdms (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_x6QmuJdms)


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Paelos on August 19, 2015, 04:40:22 PM
So, apparently, Josh Duggar, child afficienado and family values advocate, had a paid AM account.  Color me shocked.

http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-1725132091 (http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-1725132091)

See, THIS is going to be the fun part.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Chimpy on August 19, 2015, 04:46:48 PM
The concept of this site always just seemed to me to be a way for someone to make a "legitimate" site for "escorts" to search for/advertise to clients.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Engels on August 19, 2015, 05:00:08 PM
With all these 'family values' pundits, I suspect adultery will be the least scuzzy thing about them. My assumptions start at airport restroom stall foot tapping and work down from there.

Edit: I should clarify that I don't consider adultery 'better' than being gay; I'm just measuring things on their own scandal-o-meter.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Paelos on August 19, 2015, 05:01:41 PM
I mean Subway just got tapped for supporting a child pornographer for a a couple decades, what's a few public people trying to get some snizz on the side?


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: sickrubik on August 19, 2015, 06:20:03 PM
The problems with moralizing this and putting people on the cross:

  • "Identities" are commonly spoofed for sites like this, if only to maintain some anonymity.
  • People could be using sites as avenues to find consensually open sexual encounters.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Rendakor on August 19, 2015, 08:46:29 PM
Anyone in an open relationship using a site like this shouldn't be shamed by their name getting leaked; it's the cheating assholes who have something to be ashamed of.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Evildrider on August 19, 2015, 08:56:13 PM
https://ashley.cynic.al/

In case any of you needed to check to see if you were compromised.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Margalis on August 19, 2015, 10:18:18 PM
I wonder how many people using it aren't married but pretend to be for various reasons.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: MahrinSkel on August 19, 2015, 11:49:59 PM
I am in there (or my email address is, anyway). But I don't remember signing up for it. Oh, and I'm divorced (for reasons having nothing to do with infidelity).

fakeedit: Apparently I have a bunch of crap from them in my Spam folder. Probably one of the many people I...annoyed, over the years, thought that was funny.

--Dave


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Ironwood on August 20, 2015, 12:38:39 AM
I'm not even on the fence on this one :  The hack was utterly wrong and has no justification.  The site and business itself I care not one jot for nor have any moral problems with.  It's literally None of My Fucking Business.  I've been married for... er.... about 14 years or so and while I've never even touched another woman romantically in that time I can well understand that this type of thing actually might be fine and healthy for different people.  And, even if it isn't, please see the 'None of My Fucking Business' I suggested a moment ago.

Any publicity, shaming or negative shit that comes of this I am totally annoyed by, in the same way as the Fappening, but I will agree that having this as a business model and not having security to avoid this shit suggests that the business should fold.  Immediately.

Beyond that, I think we enter politics, where this should NOT go, since it's hardly worth it.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Tebonas on August 20, 2015, 12:57:03 AM
Im with Ironwood on that one. That is private business. And only the fact that the public makes that an issue gives those hypocritic advocates any political power. If everybody wouldn't care, these things couldn't be used as ammunition.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: schild on August 20, 2015, 02:03:14 AM
Fuck that, this is third person generated schadenfreude.

I'm only alive for 80 years. I demand extreme emotions in both directions from the rest of the population - which in this case, we will label as: My entertainment.

You can't take morals to your grave, dudes.

Edit: That said, I don't actually care about the politics side of this. I just like people's infidelities exposed based on the hilariously prude societal structure that was founded on unsound Christian ideals. Yea yea, I'm big on monogamy, but that's because two women would be too much work and I married "up" as they say.

Edit 2: Yea, I might be alive longer than 80 years. If the nicotine and caffeine doesn't get me, something else certainly will.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Ironwood on August 20, 2015, 02:14:39 AM
You can't take ANYTHING to your grave though.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: schild on August 20, 2015, 02:18:22 AM
No, you can't.

As such:
Bravo to the boys that signed up for Ashley Madison.
Bravo to the girls that didn't and made it the world's largest sausage fest.
Bravo to the marriages that will be ruined while dudes were looking for strange that wasn't there.
Bravo to the Admins who don't know how to internet.
Bravo to the hackers who released this list.
Bravo to that Josh Dugger whoeverthefuckguy who is deeply religious white trash imploding in the national spotlight.
Bravo.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Polysorbate80 on August 20, 2015, 06:37:50 AM
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You can't take ANYTHING to your grave though.   :why_so_serious:

How about your corpse?

(Barring tragic and/or hilarious accidents that don't leave one)


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: jgsugden on August 20, 2015, 07:26:48 AM
There are apparently many US military email address in there. Adultery can be punished by the military, including jail time.

There were profiles in there with credit card connecting information (for identity purposes) for homosexual relationships... in countries where that is punishable by death.

There are going to be a lot of divorce lawyers using this to drum up business. That means harassing calls to the spouses, whether that spouse forgave, or start a divorce already.

Many people cheat, in part, because they fear leaving their spouse. Some of them fear losing money or seeing their kids... but some fear that if their spouse found out they wanted out, they fear they'd be killed.

I work for a bank. My bank had more of their email addresses in there than any other US bank.

I'm curious how much worse a well filtered release of Facebook data would be.






Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Merusk on August 20, 2015, 07:52:43 AM
My spam-mail address is on there. I signed up almost 6 years ago when they first appeared to see what was up. Amusingly I checked my spam folder on the spam email today and saw i was still getting them and the "meet these matches" are so pitifully fake I don't get how guys paid for it."

I wonder if anyone's going to contact the wife since it's trivially easy to connect me to the spam address after 17 years of signups.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Shannow on August 20, 2015, 08:01:00 AM
Ask any woman about their experience with online dating and you'll understand just how pitiful guys are.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Miasma on August 20, 2015, 08:30:40 AM
I imagine they had some sort of free trial period?  You could probably only make a solid accusation once that email gives up a real, correct home address for the credit card validation.  Even then it could still be someone else, but they would have to know you.  If they have your email, home address and last four credit card digits though...

I wonder how they charged credit cards, did they use a made up business name?


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: KallDrexx on August 20, 2015, 12:47:49 PM
New dump released today which includes source code and email for their site (http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/08/2nd-dump-from-ashley-madison-hack-is-2x-includes-ceo-e-mail/)

So, apparently, Josh Duggar, child afficienado and family values advocate, had a paid AM account.  Color me shocked.

http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-1725132091 (http://gawker.com/family-values-activist-josh-duggar-had-a-paid-ashley-ma-1725132091)

This made my day


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Merusk on August 20, 2015, 12:57:48 PM
I imagine they had some sort of free trial period?  You could probably only make a solid accusation once that email gives up a real, correct home address for the credit card validation.  Even then it could still be someone else, but they would have to know you.  If they have your email, home address and last four credit card digits though...

I wonder how they charged credit cards, did they use a made up business name?

From what I recall it's like any other dating site. Searches were free, viewing profiles beyond name/ age/ headshot and sending messages cost money.

Cheaters come up with brilliant ways of not getting caught. One of my former co-workers' sister was cheated on for years before she caught him. (insert typical, 'I came home early one day' story)  He was charging tools on the credit cards, returning them to Home Depot for cash and then using the cash to finance the affair. After hearing about something like that devised, coming up with a PO or having a separate CC bill sent to your office is a trivial matter.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Paelos on August 20, 2015, 01:33:51 PM
The tools thing seems easy to notice if you're paying attention, because at some point there's thousands of dollars of no tools not lying around. But anyway.

Were I doing something similar, I'd simply just use a card on an account that provides cash back at certain normal looking locations like gas stations or grocery stores to mask the money.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Ironwood on August 20, 2015, 01:45:17 PM
This is starting to sound like an OJ book, my little monkey.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: HaemishM on August 20, 2015, 01:49:28 PM
See, all that work to get around the wife finding out about affairs? Even if I were ever so inclined to cheat, that much work just to get my rocks off with some strange is simply way more effort than the resulting orgasms are worth.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Paelos on August 20, 2015, 02:16:04 PM
This is starting to sound like an OJ book, my little monkey.

You probably don't want to know what we have to learn about hiding money in order to pass a forensic audit class.

Think like Defense Against the Dark Arts, and we're learning the dark arts.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Ironwood on August 20, 2015, 03:23:10 PM
I'm very much aware.  You keep forgetting that the reason I have contempt for accountants is my 21 years working with them way back.  Also, marrying one. 

But I couldn't resist a good OJ joke.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 20, 2015, 03:32:24 PM
This (http://www.hulu.com/watch/285264) is still my favorite OJ joke. And also pretty much everything Norm McDonald said about him on Weekend Update for about 2 straight years  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Samprimary on August 20, 2015, 03:52:20 PM
Diddler Duggar has now owned up to being unfaithful. But he made sure to throw in wordage that suggests that he's mostly just sad that he got caught


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Trippy on August 20, 2015, 04:57:38 PM
And it was also the Devil's fault.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Merusk on August 20, 2015, 05:46:18 PM
The tools thing seems easy to notice if you're paying attention, because at some point there's thousands of dollars of no tools not lying around. But anyway.

That's the part I never understood about the story either.  I didn't want to call her out on her sister being an idiot or so disconnected from her husband that she didn't notice.  I suppose once a couple is at the affair stage the second is a given anyway?

See, all that work to get around the wife finding out about affairs? Even if I were ever so inclined to cheat, that much work just to get my rocks off with some strange is simply way more effort than the resulting orgasms are worth.

Your mistake is assuming affairs are typically about getting your rocks off.   They're about unhappiness, dissatisfaction and trying to fill a void of some sort. I've spoken with and read enough from people over the tears to really pity most of them more than despise them.  Sure there's some scumbags who just want to sleep around - male and female.

However most just seem rooted in an inability to talk to the other party. Either because they won't talk back, the offender is too scared or simply nobody wants to admit to the unhappiness.

Also I can't say I'll ever think harshly of someone who has an affair when they're in a dead bedroom situation. However I realize part of that is my own need for physical not just proximal intimacy.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Signe on August 21, 2015, 07:49:45 AM
If you cheat, you're a dick.  You do something with what you have, whether that's finishing your marriage/relationship for good or trying to fix it, but you do that first.  If you ever loved your partner at all, you wouldn't do that to them.  Being cheated on is horrible.  And it has nothing to do with sex except to the shallow prick who cheats. 

 


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Lantyssa on August 21, 2015, 07:55:46 AM
/micdrop


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Paelos on August 21, 2015, 12:38:08 PM
If you cheat, you're a dick.  You do something with what you have, whether that's finishing your marriage/relationship for good or trying to fix it, but you do that first.  If you ever loved your partner at all, you wouldn't do that to them.  Being cheated on is horrible.  And it has nothing to do with sex except to the shallow prick who cheats. 

Truth. Have the balls to just end it on decent terms if the pull of cheating is so strong you're going to act on it. But people don't want to do that. They want the security of their fallback in addition to having their fun, because they are selfish assholes.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Margalis on August 22, 2015, 02:06:56 AM
Why would anyone sign up for this using a work email address?

If I were to sign up for a site like this I would be sure to use a non-work account.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Ironwood on August 22, 2015, 02:18:20 AM
Because your wife will never see your work e-mail.

Sure, it's stupid thinking, but the danger with this is not the workplace fury, it's the spouse fury.



Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Sir T on August 22, 2015, 03:14:41 AM
People conduct affairs in via work Email all the time, to the amusement of network managers.

In any case its turning more serious as blackmail attempts have started.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-blackmail-of-ashley-madison-users-has-already-begun/ar-BBlXLTH

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On Tuesday, a huge trove of data stolen from the extra-marital affairs website's servers was leaked online. As well as confidential internal documents, this included user data on the site's 32 million users. The info ranges from email addresses and financial details to physical descriptions and detailed sexual preferences.

According to multiple media reports on Friday, blackmailers have started trawling the database, widely available online, in an attempt to extort the users on it.

Bitcoin news outlet CoinDesk was sent an email from a reader who apparently had an account on Ashley Madison. The reader had received an email from a would-be blackmailer called "Team GrayFlay" threatening to expose them unless they sent the extorter some bitcoins.

Here's the part of the message they received:

U.S. dollars are counted out by a banker at a bank in Westminster, Colorado November 3, 2009. REUTERS/Rick Wilking© Provided by Business Insider Inc U.S. dollars are counted out by a banker at a bank in Westminster, Colorado November 3, 2009. REUTERS/Rick Wilking Unfortunately your data was leaked in the recent hacking of Ashley Madison and I now have your information. If you would like to prevent me from finding and sharing this information with your significant other send exactly 2.00000054 bitcoins (approx. value $450 USD) to the following address…

Meanwhile, New Zealand publication Stuff.co.nz is reporting that an Auckland man has also received a blackmail demand from Team GrayFlay. "Consider how expensive a divorce lawyer is," the blackmailer wrote. "If you are no longer in a committed relationship then think about how this will affect your social standing amongst family and friends."

These may be the first blackmail attempts, but they are highly unlikely to be the only ones. The user info dump is fairly easy to find online, meaning that countless amoral opportunists are bound to try and take advantage of it in the weeks and months ahead.

After all: If Team GrayFlay (or any other blackmailer, for that matter) emailed all 32 million account holders, and just 0.01% of them agreed to pay up the $450 (£288) ransom, it would still earn them $1.4 million dollars (£0.9 million).

As unpleasant as this financial blackmail may be, it's not the worst aspect of the hack. The dump also contains around 15,000 US military and governmental email addresses. Many are definitely fake (users are not required to verify their email address upon signing up), but it's clear there are thousands of users with sensitive jobs that have been compromised by the leak.

Intelligence agencies are probably already "digging" through the data and considering how it can be used to leverage the individuals named within it, one cybersecurity executive told The Hill.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Ironwood on August 22, 2015, 04:04:46 AM
I don't get it, the information is out there.  What's the incentive to pay ??


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Sir T on August 22, 2015, 04:43:40 AM
Yes its out there in a huge data dump. Shame if someone were to point out to your spouse that your name is among the millions of users of the site, along with all your paymend info and how long you used it and when. Its not like your spouse would trawl through the database themselves


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Ironwood on August 22, 2015, 07:51:23 AM
You guys clearly have trusting wives.  Mine was through that website in seconds.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Pennilenko on August 22, 2015, 08:00:06 AM
I already have one woman in my life that I can barely handle, even the idea of cheating wears me out.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Ghambit on August 22, 2015, 08:52:51 AM
If you cheat, you're a dick.  You do something with what you have, whether that's finishing your marriage/relationship for good or trying to fix it, but you do that first.  If you ever loved your partner at all, you wouldn't do that to them.  Being cheated on is horrible.  And it has nothing to do with sex except to the shallow prick who cheats. 

 

You are assuming one is even able to finish a marriage/relationship.  Many times people aren't in the position of ending anything short of just leaving everything behind and running for the hills.  It takes two to end a relationship.  If one refuses to comply in any way (especially if it's the woman), then the relationship pretty much isn't ended.

Then there's the fact a great many relationships are completely co-dependent (see:  America).   The dependent person could feel trapped, and cheat to break out emotionally while maintaining their support.  The provider may cheat because he genuinely cares for the dependent's well-being and won't end things outright due to some sense of twisted chivalry - he after-all, is her "everything" but he still needs an emotional release from the rollercoaster.

If you're in a toxic marriage with children and both refuse to end things because marriage with children...  very rarely do people actually "talk it out" and go polyamorous.   They will cheat if they're able.  If they're not able, that generally means they're already a dick/bitch, have a social disorder, and/or they look like Quasimodo on a bad hair day.  It's rarely because "I'm just above all that." 



Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Lantyssa on August 22, 2015, 09:53:37 AM
Here's a hand grenade with the pin pulled.  Hold on to it just in case the minefield doesn't get you.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Ghambit on August 22, 2015, 12:25:39 PM
Toss grenade into minefield.
I play the percentages and the percentages are in my favor.  Not sayin it doesn't suck, it does, but human nature is sucky.

What are we at now, near 70% divorce rate?  The vast majority of those involve some sort of infidelity if not simply at the tail end of an already ending relationship.
And even before considering marriage, most people who end relationships rarely do-so without at least having some kind of fallback.  Even if they haven't slept with them. 


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: apocrypha on August 22, 2015, 12:40:20 PM
We can't choose who we fall in love with. Being in love with one person doesn't mean you can't fall in love with someone else at the same time. Poly-amorous relationships are real, but they're not easy and rely on openness and honesty.

Signing up to Ashley Madison to specifically look for an illicit, anonymous affair is the direct opposite of openness and honesty. As is Ashley Madison faking female profiles to better attract male clients.

I suppose my view on the whole thing is pretty much ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Khaldun on August 22, 2015, 01:10:02 PM
Actually the divorce rate is falling, along with the fact that substantial numbers of folks are never getting married at all. Especially true for college-educated folks in the middle-class and above--their divorce rate is now much lower than it was twenty years ago.

I don't really have much interest in judging people abstractly. I've seen folks cheat where it was enormously damaging and awful, where the cheater was essentially consciously trying to hurt their partner. And I've seen people cheat where it was the kind of thing where all the parties involved sort of knew and sort of were ok with it and simply didn't want to talk about it too much. I think it's the kind of thing that doesn't make any sense to judge independently of the circumstances.



Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Lantyssa on August 23, 2015, 10:32:47 AM
What are we at now, near 70% divorce rate?  The vast majority of those involve some sort of infidelity if not simply at the tail end of an already ending relationship.
And those people are dicks.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Ghambit on August 23, 2015, 10:39:14 AM
What are we at now, near 70% divorce rate?  The vast majority of those involve some sort of infidelity if not simply at the tail end of an already ending relationship.
And those people are dicks.

I guess that's why we hate people then.   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Fraeg on September 07, 2015, 10:52:38 PM
Given all the high profile cases of businesses getting hacked like, oh I don't know Sony comes to mind.  The idea of putting your info into a site with the sole purpose of cheating on your significant other is just mind blowing.   


was it a fucked thing to do? sure, yes absolutely... is that business model absolute slime, yes. 

at the end of the day:  I laughed my ass off


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: stray on September 17, 2015, 07:30:31 AM
Some Captain/cop from my city killed himself from this list. I heard a preacher in Lousiana did too.


There's gotta be more stories like this.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: jgsugden on September 17, 2015, 10:36:49 AM
Some Captain/cop from my city killed himself from this list. I heard a preacher in Lousiana did too.

There's gotta be more stories like this.
There are.  I'm more interested in the stories that will come out where someone is killed by another because they appeared on this list.  I have not heard any stories of that, yet, but there are people in countries that can be executed for trying to engage in the behavior they are listed as wanting in their profiles...


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: ajax34i on September 17, 2015, 02:21:24 PM
So there is absolute trust that the list has been published with no modifications whatsoever.  If you're on the list you really did have a profile, and the hackers haven't added or changed anything.  It's on the internet so it must be true, and all that.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: HaemishM on September 18, 2015, 08:46:13 AM
Strangely enough, I believe the hackers more than the company which seems to have up and created fembots to lure male customers into spending more money.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: jgsugden on September 18, 2015, 08:57:15 AM
While it remains possible that a hacker might have inserted a single acquaintances name (or deleted one), I doubt the majority of the list is faked in any way.  Why go through the trouble to manipulate a list of strangers and give the company a means to discredit the list?  If there were a lot of fake names and people could prove they were fake, the entire exercise would be discredited. 

This was an extortion game.  The hackers need potential victims to know that the threats of revealing information are real.  Their best interests are served by screwing unpaying victims with evidence that people will believe, especially when there is massive media coverage.  So, yes, ajax34i, we do trust that it was you on Ashley Madison seeking the affection of goats.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: stray on September 18, 2015, 09:10:07 AM
Strangely enough, I believe the hackers more than the company which seems to have up and created fembots to lure male customers into spending more money.

The site runners were also in the process of creating some lame Gambling app as well.. and it was leaked in emails on how overt the scam was. Sounded like Bernie Madoff shit..

They're not to be trusted.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: jgsugden on September 18, 2015, 09:34:42 AM
...
The site runners were also in the process of creating some lame Gambling app as well.. and it was leaked in emails on how overt the scam was. Sounded like Bernie Madoff shit..

They're not to be trusted.
Again - why would they go through the trouble of putting real people into their systems that were not really customers?  And stealing their financial info to add to their systems?  And if they did, wouldn't some of those people noticed they were being billed?  It makes no sense.  Anyone that was on the list as a registered user with financial info that is/was a real person was a customer. 


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: stray on September 18, 2015, 09:36:35 AM
...
The site runners were also in the process of creating some lame Gambling app as well.. and it was leaked in emails on how overt the scam was. Sounded like Bernie Madoff shit..

They're not to be trusted.
Again - why would they go through the trouble of putting real people into their systems that were not really customers?  And stealing their financial info to add to their systems?  And if they did, wouldn't some of those people noticed they were being billed?  It makes no sense.  Anyone that was on the list as a registered user with financial info that is/was a real person was a customer. 

Wait.. I'm in agreement with you. Did I come off like I wasn't?

I'm just saying the owners as sleazy (to point out the obvious).


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: jgsugden on September 18, 2015, 10:25:20 AM
I saw it that you thought because the owners were sleazy people capable of lying for profit, we shouldn't trust the lists.  I get that isn't what you meant, now.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: MahrinSkel on October 10, 2015, 05:06:48 PM
Just to follow up on this: I currently have 14 emails in my spam folder trying to blackmail me, all claim to have my contact information from Facebook (not possible, my permissions there have been locked down since certain trolling events last year) and say they will tell everyone about my cheating ways if I don't send bitcoin to an address supposedly created specifically for me (but most of these mails have several explicit recipients, and don't give my name so presumably we're all targets).  Most are asking for 1 bitcoin, which is around $240.

Since I'm divorced and never actually signed up for Ashley Madison (I assume somebody did it to hassle me over something I did that pissed them off), I don't give a rat fuck. But I imagine that some people are actually biting, since they keep coming. This one is typical:

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Unfortunately your data was leaked in the recent hacking of Ashley Madison and I know have your information. I have also used your user profile to find your Facebook page, using this I can now message all of your friends and family members.

If you would like to prevent me from sharing this dirt info with all of your friends and family members (and perhaps even your employers too?) then you need to send 1 bitcoin to the following BTC address.

Bitcoin Address:
[...]

You may be wondering why should you and what will prevent other people from doing the same, in short you now know to change your privacy settings in Facebook so no one can view your friends/family list. So go ahead and update that now (I have a copy if you dont pay) to stop any future emails like this.

You can buy bitcoin using online exchanges easily. If the bitcoin is not paid within 3 days then my system will automatically message all of your friends and family members. The bitcoin address is unique to you.

Consider how expensive a divorce lawyer is. If you are no longer in a committed relationship then think about how this will affect your social standing amongst family and friends. What will your friends and family think about you?

Sincerely,
Laura


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: Samwise on October 10, 2015, 05:48:17 PM
I'd bet money that "Laura" is a 23 year old Romanian dude.


Title: Re: Hackers release all Data from Ashley Madison Dating site. Verdict: Juicy
Post by: schild on October 13, 2015, 01:35:21 AM
I'd bet money that "Laura" is a 23 year old Romanian dude.

Nah, just actual Russia.