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Title: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Merusk on July 11, 2015, 01:59:28 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWYIpULVJDc

Series starts October 31 on Starz. Already see the comedy and gore of the previous movies in the trailer. This looks like it'll be great, here's hoping..


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: satael on July 11, 2015, 02:24:13 PM
Bruce Campbell + Lucy Lawless + campy horror, what more could you ask for?  :drill:


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on July 11, 2015, 02:39:38 PM
Jane Levy?


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Evildrider on July 11, 2015, 03:39:34 PM
No, they don't need to have anything to do with the Evil Dead reboot.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Samwise on July 11, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
Fucking Be There.

I was worried it was going to go the way of My Name is Bruce (i.e. terribad with not enough action to make up for the cringe-inducing writing) but they have spurting blood and monster makeup, so I'm sold.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: MediumHigh on July 11, 2015, 04:46:25 PM
Its on starz I'll watch.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: HaemishM on July 11, 2015, 08:37:16 PM
That looks fucking fantastic. That has everything the shitty Evil Dead reboot forgot about the originals.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Evildrider on July 11, 2015, 08:46:15 PM
Yeah, this is the only thing I am looking forward to more than Star Wars this year.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on September 08, 2015, 03:00:17 PM
Come Get Some.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3360309/ash-vs-evil-dead-titles-synopses-nearly-entire-season/ (http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3360309/ash-vs-evil-dead-titles-synopses-nearly-entire-season/)

It looks like we'll be seeing some nice tributes to Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2, and Army of Darkness/Captain Supermarket - especially Army of Darkness.


Title: Ash vs Evil Dead
Post by: Shannow on October 28, 2015, 06:37:06 AM
This premieres Saturday night on  Starz (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unnLg1TPCYM)

edit: (failboat on my part, just throw this in the other thread)


Title: Re: Ash vs Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on October 28, 2015, 09:37:15 AM
http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=24925.0 (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=24925.0)


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Evildrider on October 28, 2015, 12:33:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMBKu9qCU7g
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMBKu9qCU7g)
First 4 minutes up online.  Looks fuckin awesome.


Also this has already been picked up for a second season.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Merusk on October 28, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
Nice, a 2nd season already.

Nice to see it's on at 9pm, too. I can get out to trick or treat with the kid then come home to watch this.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Evildrider on October 31, 2015, 11:45:37 AM
First episode leaked early, it's great so far.   :drill:


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: satael on October 31, 2015, 12:07:32 PM
The first episode was great. I'm a bit hesitant since alot of the Evil Dead tropes were already done in the first episode and it's the only one that is directed by Raimi but hopefully it will keep up steam as the story progresses.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Mac on October 31, 2015, 02:40:35 PM
 
The first episode was great. I'm a bit hesitant since alot of the Evil Dead tropes were already done in the first episode and it's the only one that is directed by Raimi but hopefully it will keep up steam as the story progresses.

I liked it, but I don't know if I would have without the nostalgia. I hope they dial it up to eleven though and give it a good run.

Also:


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Merusk on October 31, 2015, 06:56:51 PM
It was great but didn't feel campy enough to me. Campbell has learned to act better and wasn't mugging enough and Rami had learned to direct and avoid some of the worse b-movie director foibles. It was, however, great once the deadites began showing up in earnest.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Khaldun on November 01, 2015, 04:05:26 AM
I might be the only person in the world who likes Army of Darkness way more than Evil Dead 2? So yeah, I want campy Ash--I don't want a hint of seriousness to drag it down.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Rendakor on November 01, 2015, 05:19:50 AM
I thought that was the universally held opinion.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Khaldun on November 01, 2015, 08:08:30 AM
Really? I always got the impression that Evil Dead 2 was the big favorite.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Merusk on November 01, 2015, 08:14:44 AM
ED2 is great but AoD was what propelled it into awesomeness, IMO.

I think it's a minority position because Horror fans like ED2 and they're a larger group than campy b-movie lovers. Not that ED2 didn't have its camp but it AOD turned it up to 13.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Velorath on November 01, 2015, 09:03:36 AM
Yeah ED2 is still "horror" whereas AoD is pretty much just straight up comedy. I'm guessing more people have seen AoD as it used to get a lot of play on basic cable. You lose much less editing down to PG-13 than you would with ED2.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: satael on November 01, 2015, 10:27:59 AM
I think that ED2 is probably the better movie but AoD just has so many more memorable one-liners and scenes that it wins in the end when it's more than 2 decades since they (or nearly 3 in case of ED2) were originally released.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Surlyboi on November 01, 2015, 06:28:03 PM
"It's a trick, get an axe..."


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on November 01, 2015, 08:31:51 PM
They don't quite have the feel right, yet, but I'm hoping it'll come with time. It has room to grow, but it is already Groovy.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Margalis on November 01, 2015, 09:56:42 PM
Really? I always got the impression that Evil Dead 2 was the big favorite.

That was my impression as well. ED2 is pretty clearly the better movie - I would also say that the funniest parts of ED2 are funnier than the funniest parts of AoD, even though AoD is much more of a comedy.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Evildrider on November 01, 2015, 10:06:48 PM
The continuity for this show does not recognize Army of Darkness.  Campbell said that it was because of the rights over it.  They would have had to give someone else a part and partial control of the project, so they went on without it.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on November 02, 2015, 09:21:00 AM
More an the lack of AoD rights: http://screenrant.com/ash-vs-evil-dead-bruce-campbell-fake-blood/ (http://screenrant.com/ash-vs-evil-dead-bruce-campbell-fake-blood/)

I didn't know this - but it clearly isn't stopping them.  The difference between dolls and little reflections isn't all that great, after all..  Same "small foe" gags.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Teleku on November 02, 2015, 09:48:37 AM
Really? I always got the impression that Evil Dead 2 was the big favorite.

That was my impression as well. ED2 is pretty clearly the better movie - I would also say that the funniest parts of ED2 are funnier than the funniest parts of AoD, even though AoD is much more of a comedy.
I agree with all this, though that's not to say AoD isn't also a very enjoyable movie.  It's only 'lesser' when compared to ED2.  ED2 just had the perfect ratio of horror, comedy, and camp that I've never seen reproduced. 


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on November 02, 2015, 12:40:00 PM
I've seen a couple (2) reviews calling this the best pilot ever.

Errrrr....

I enjoyed it, but it had room to improve.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: MahrinSkel on November 02, 2015, 12:44:07 PM
It was fun, but a little rough in spots that weren't just camp that didn't come off. It really should have been two episodes, one with Ash being a jerk and trying to run away towards the end, then a second where that doesn't work and he has to suit up.

--Dave


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Margalis on November 03, 2015, 08:58:10 PM
I thought it was decent. Ash was a little too much of a loser / dumbass for my taste - in particular the part where he picks up the box of light bulbs struck me as trying too hard.

The whole "you are the chosen one according to my uncle" or whatever the fuck that was struck me as very silly.

My favorite part was actually when the detectives confronted the girl who screwed her head around backwards. The way she moved her arms and body was both creepy and silly, whereas the old woman at the end was just all silly.

That was also the part that was the least callback / referential / fan servicey. The danger in a series like this is that the writers write a little too much like fans and just do the obvious thing that people want. Of course you want to do some of that, but not to the point where it's just "hey, remember when this similar scene happened in this other movie?"

Overall I thought it was pretty good though, would happily watch more.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Merusk on November 04, 2015, 06:04:57 AM
I'm willing to overlook a lot of fanservice in the first episode of a series. If it continues and doesn't go anywhere new, then we've got an issue.

I agree on the loser/ dumbass part. I don't know if that's meant to separate him further from the AoD Ash or just a new vision of the character. The ED2 Ash certainly wasn't this big of a loser, just unlucky.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Bunk on November 04, 2015, 07:20:20 AM
I took it as this is a guy that had bad shit happen and he ran away from it, becoming the epitome of a loser, middle aged trailer park man-whore. They emphasized it so that you could have the transformation towards the end of the episode, and the revelation that despite being a loser, a little bit of him still remembered the responsibility (thus still having the chainsaw hidden away). In the end, it was to make it more special when he got his groovy back.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on November 04, 2015, 09:13:42 AM
If I had to pick which Ash we saw, I'd say that was AoD Ash, not ED I or ED II Ash. 

Sam Raimi did the pilot, plotted episode 2 and participated in the plotting for episode 3 (before heading off for features).  I want to see what the series looks like after his influence is gone - does it retain the ED feel, or is it going to feel more like Hercules/Xena? 


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Wasted on November 04, 2015, 11:46:05 AM
It was definitely AoD Ash, he was a giant douche in that movie.

I loved this.  I thought the scene with the cop was good genuine horror.  Ash was pretty much just how I expected him to be.  The sidekicks need some time to flesh themselves out but other than that it was great.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: HaemishM on November 04, 2015, 06:12:46 PM
This was SO much fun, and SO much better than that shitty Evil Dead remake they did a year or two ago. It remembered that this thing is supposed to be fun, not just gory for the sake of gory.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: rattran on November 05, 2015, 04:14:23 AM
As Campbell has said many times, the first one wasn't supposed to be funny, they just weren't very good at what they did.

The wife and I enjoyed this quite a bit, not enough to subscribe to Stars though.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on November 06, 2015, 09:05:41 AM
This was SO much fun, and SO much better than that shitty Evil Dead remake they did a year or two ago. It remembered that this thing is supposed to be fun, not just gory for the sake of gory.
I felt like that movie was a fair Update of Evil Dead I - which doesn't make it a worthy continuation of the franchise.  However, I would not mind seeing them bring her into the series during season 2...


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Velorath on November 06, 2015, 02:37:50 PM
This was SO much fun, and SO much better than that shitty Evil Dead remake they did a year or two ago. It remembered that this thing is supposed to be fun, not just gory for the sake of gory.

I liked the remake a bit. I don't think it was gory for the sake of gory (I hate torture porn stuff), it was gory for the love of the craft of practical special effects in horror movies. In that respect I thought it was pretty well done.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Threash on November 07, 2015, 02:11:32 PM
The remake was fine, it just isn't FUN like this.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Triax on November 08, 2015, 09:29:38 PM
"You did know they were Jewish, right?"   :awesome_for_real: :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Yegolev on November 12, 2015, 05:34:46 AM
Watched first two episodes and enjoyed them very much.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: HaemishM on November 12, 2015, 09:32:25 AM
The line about the crosses on the graves had me giggling for a while after the episode. Just perfect.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Margalis on November 16, 2015, 10:30:35 PM
Still liking it. I like the characterization of Ash better now - maybe because he's in his element he seems more competent. Still an idiot in some ways, but more competent.

I love when they were summoning the demon and he was like "perfect - sounds like a nerd."


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on November 17, 2015, 03:03:00 PM
I can't tell - is the horrible dye job on Campbell's hair intentionally bad?


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: pxib on November 18, 2015, 09:05:28 AM
I can't tell - is the horrible dye job on Campbell's hair intentionally bad?
I would guess that it was whatever he regularly does to dye his hair, not particularly suited to high fidelity TV and lighting. There may have been some conversation at some point about how they have people who could do that better, and then someone or some combination of someones said

"Eh, leave it. Suits the character and the genre. We couldn't have been more authentic if we'd tried... and it would have cost a thousand times more."

"What if it needs to be redone and it doesn't match?"

"Then our audience will appreciate the inconsistency. Hell, in two years we'll be able to identify which season the fans at cons are dressing up as."


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: MahrinSkel on November 18, 2015, 09:50:49 AM
I've seen Bruce Campbell with salt and pepper hair that looked natural in a couple of things fairly recently (as Reagan in Fargo, for example), so I don't think that's the explanation.

--Dave


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Merusk on November 18, 2015, 11:06:59 AM
It's very much meant to be in-character. He didn't dye for Burn Notice and there's several publicity photos of him with his natural salt-and-pepper out there.

Bruce Campbell can age gracefully, Ash 'J' Williams never will.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on November 18, 2015, 11:11:50 AM
It is black as night except for little bits where the dye is missing.... yeah, it has to be intentional.  My bad for even asking.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Yegolev on November 18, 2015, 12:14:52 PM
It might be your bad for even noticing a man's dye job.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on November 18, 2015, 12:24:12 PM
It might be your bad for even noticing a man's dye job.
If he were just a man....


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Margalis on November 21, 2015, 09:07:32 PM
Most recent ep was the first one I wasn't into. Drug trip sequences just strike me as so lazy - all almost exactly the same.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on January 03, 2016, 05:44:25 PM
I can't tell - is the horrible dye job on Campbell's hair intentionally bad?
Answered in the finale... which I <3.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Threash on January 03, 2016, 07:53:07 PM
I was REALLY hoping mr Smith's niece would make it, she's nice to have around.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: HaemishM on January 22, 2016, 08:26:54 AM
Finally caught up to the end of the season and loved the finale. Very Ash.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Wasted on January 22, 2016, 08:38:47 PM
Loved the finale, loved the series.  Can't wait for season 2 now.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: apocrypha on March 11, 2016, 01:24:41 AM
I am halfway through binge-watching this. It's fucking excellent. I've always been a bit meh about the Evil Dead films. This is everything they should have been IMO.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Evildrider on July 22, 2016, 01:09:48 PM
Ash vs The Evil Dead Season 2 trailer. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzeJTAwqEJ4)

Apparently banned from being shown at Comic-Con.  lol


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Samwise on July 04, 2017, 01:45:46 AM
Necro!  (heh)

Binging this now since I bought STARZ streaming for American Gods.  If anyone's on the fence about it, I recommend checking it out.  My fears that it'd turn out like "My Name is Bruce" were completely unfounded.

 :popcorn:


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on April 20, 2018, 12:46:13 PM
RIP:

http://tvline.com/2018/04/20/ash-vs-evil-dead-cancelled-starz-no-season-4-bruce-campbell/ (http://tvline.com/2018/04/20/ash-vs-evil-dead-cancelled-starz-no-season-4-bruce-campbell/)

It was not as good as I'd hoped, but I'm glad we had a chance to revisit Ash.

Note that Campbell has said that this is it for Ash - when the series ends, the character ends.  I hope they get a way to wrap up everything neatly in some form, but it doesn't
sound like it will be movie/tv.  In theory, the series finale wraps up most of it.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2018, 02:13:23 PM
The current season has been feeling like it's winding up to some sort of big conclusion (much like a D&D campaign, once the characters gain the ability to transcend death you gotta start thinking about how to wrap it up or it's just gonna get boring) so I'm glad they're planning for the end and aren't going to have either a long drawn out decline or an abrupt unsatisfying demise.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Samwise on April 23, 2018, 11:26:20 PM
Knew as soon as Brandy was alone in the house holding a shotgun that we were setting her up for a passing of the torch.  Loved it.


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: Wasted on April 30, 2018, 04:32:13 AM
R.I.P. Ash Williams

The horror in this show puts most modern movies to shame, mixed with inventive slapstick and joyful over the top gore, I loved every moment.  I wish the show could go on forever, that this show couldn't rate well is a fucking tragedy


Title: Re: Ash vs The Evil Dead
Post by: jgsugden on April 30, 2018, 07:22:07 AM
Bruce has said "done" before.  You never know....  I would like to have seen where they went in Season 4 given that the finale was planned out before they knew they were not coming back.  I'm betting, however, all we get is a comic continuation.