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Title: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on April 07, 2015, 06:19:38 AM
Opening day has come and gone, and the media seems to think that the Braves would save everyone the time and trouble if we just went out and shot ourselves. Me, I'm for wasting sportswriters' time. So I figured we ought to hang around for a while and see if we can give 'em all a nice big shitburger to eat!

Crazy Predictions for the Divisions:

NL West - Rockies
NL East - Braves
NL Central - Brewers
NL WCs - Cardinals, Dodgers

AL West - Oakland
AL Central - Chicago White Sox
AL East - Baltimore
AL WCs - Detroit, Toronto


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on April 07, 2015, 10:01:51 AM
I watched about half of the Cubs-Cards opener. I can't for the life of me see how the sports media is picking the Cubs to contend. Just... no. Sure we have a shitload of great prospects but when we can't score even 1 against a top pitcher despite getting like 13 runners in scoring position, I'm thinking... not. Of course, it's just one game, and we decided to fuck Kris Bryant out of a year of free agency by having him dick around in the minors for 12 fucking days but WHO NEEDS 12 WINS, AMIRITE?

Seriously, it really ought to be against the rules for clubs to jerk a guy around like that simply so they can save themselves a year of free agency. That kind of rules lawyering bullshit really pisses me off.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Malakili on April 07, 2015, 10:03:43 AM
Man, I remember when I was a kid opening day was a huge deal.  Nowadays I forget it's even coming.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on April 07, 2015, 11:04:06 AM
NL West- Dodgers
NL Central- Cardinals
NL East- Nationals

WCs- Cubs, Padres

AL West- Mariners
AL Central- Tigers
AL East- Blue Jays

WCs- Angels, Indians

Should be an interesting season. A lot of long dormant (shitty) teams have at least partially unfucked themselves. Hope we see a bunch of unfamiliar faces in October/November.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ingmar on April 07, 2015, 12:04:55 PM
Predicting the Rockies is indeed crazy.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on April 07, 2015, 12:08:54 PM
Predicting the Rockies is indeed crazy.

I just get tired of everyone predicting the Dodgers and went rogue.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ingmar on April 07, 2015, 12:24:43 PM
Yeah but the Rockies will be fighting with Arizona for 4th place, IMO. (Probably the Giants odd year spiral their way down there too.) The Padres look like the team to pick if you're bored with LA to me.

(I gave you a pass on the Braves pick.)

Mine:

NL West: LA (sigh)
NL Central: St. Louis
NL East: Washington
WC: Pittsburgh, Miami

AL West: LA (sigh)
AL Central: Cleveland
AL East: Toronto
WC: Seattle, Boston

NL Cy Young: Kershaw (sigh)
AL Cy Young: Hernandez (finally gets to be on a pretty good team)

NL MVP: Stanton (spin that stupid fish statue)
AL MVP: Trout (he's going to win like 7 of these)

NL RotY: Kris Bryant
AL RotY: Aaron Sanchez

The AL is *much* harder to pick than the NL this year. Should be some really good races in all 3 divisions.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Phildo on April 07, 2015, 12:34:24 PM
Those are indeed some crazy predictions, Paelos.  I'm maybe onboard with the White Sox in the AL Central, but I think you're likely to go 0/6 on division champs this year.

NL West: LA
NL Central: St. Louis
NL East: Washington
WC: Pittsburgh, San Diego (though I'm torn on Miami, it will be close)

AL West: Seattle
AL Central: Cleveland
AL East: Boston
WC: LA, Oakland

I agree with Ingmar about the AL being much harder to predict.  Bet there's much more separation between the wild card teams and the bottom dwellers in the NL.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on April 07, 2015, 01:16:30 PM
Almost everyone is picking Nationals, Dodgers, Cardinals. They can't be right two years in a row. Just can't. I refuse to believe all three will win again.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on April 07, 2015, 02:39:06 PM
Unfortunately, I don't see any of the NL East making any kind of push on the Nats without a lot of injuries to the Nats. Same goes for the Cards. Dodgers I'm not entirely sure about but I'd certainly put them ahead of the Rockies, Padres and Dbacks.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on April 09, 2015, 12:14:33 PM
Braves sweep, confuse everyone!


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: 01101010 on April 09, 2015, 02:09:54 PM
Customary Go Tribe! before they are out of the race. (in about 4 weeks)


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ingmar on April 09, 2015, 02:20:05 PM
Customary Go Tribe! before they are out of the race. (in about 4 weeks)

Hey, two of us picked Cleveland to win the Central so far.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ingmar on April 09, 2015, 03:04:14 PM
If you're by a TV, turn Cleveland-Houston on now if you can.

EDIT:

I jinxed it


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on April 10, 2015, 06:22:09 AM
Braves home opener is today against the Mets. I really want this month of April to go well for the Braves so we get over the rebuilding hump, and the Nationals can basically tank if they are so inclined. Washington is just unlikable from every aspect to me. Bryce Harper being tops on that list, but Strasburg isn't far behind.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Phildo on April 10, 2015, 07:55:32 AM
Maybe, but the Nats are pretty fun to go see live.  Looking forward to a few games next week.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Teleku on April 12, 2015, 09:54:49 AM
Braves home opener is today against the Mets. I really want this month of April to go well for the Braves so we get over the rebuilding hump, and the Nationals can basically tank if they are so inclined. Washington is just unlikable from every aspect to me. Bryce Harper being tops on that list, but Strasburg isn't far behind.
I've been out of touch with baseball since I started living abroad.  What's wrong with Strasburg?


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on April 12, 2015, 12:48:02 PM
The national media wants Strasburg to be one of the best pitchers in the game sooooooooooooooooooooo badly. They cover his starts and talk about him a good bit.

But in reality? He's a good frontline starter right now, and I don't even believe he's the best pitcher on the Nationals. Yet he gets so much talk. It's annoying.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Teleku on April 12, 2015, 08:58:49 PM
But he makes the ball do crazy things!


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on April 12, 2015, 11:27:19 PM
I hate Fernando Rodney. That is all.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on April 13, 2015, 06:16:54 AM
Bartolo Colon got his first RBI in 10 years off the Braves to help the Mets win by a run.

I can't help but love the man regardless of his team. He's a treasure slathered in cheese dip.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on April 14, 2015, 06:03:58 AM
Tried to get to the game last night, made it 10 minutes in the seats when we had a 30m rain delay. Watched 3 innings of baseball, another rain delay. By then it was 9:30 and the game wasn't going to even get started until at least 10. I left. Braves won.

6-1 now, keep it rolling!

Plus the Nats lost


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Phildo on April 14, 2015, 11:23:37 AM
I was lucky enough to see Bartolo Colon strike out bunting twice last year.  Love that man.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ingmar on April 15, 2015, 12:28:44 PM
Giants are living down to my expectations thus far.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Teleku on April 15, 2015, 12:32:31 PM
It would ruin our winning strategy if we did good this year!  All hail having a shitty season on odd number years!


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on April 15, 2015, 01:25:48 PM
I hate Fernando Rodney. That is all.
:oh_i_see:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on April 15, 2015, 01:45:27 PM
Braves are proving their 4-5 starters wouldn't be starting anywhere else. Roger McDowell better have a ton of magic dust in that bag of his.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: 01101010 on April 15, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
Customary Go Tribe! before they are out of the race. (in about 4 weeks)

3 more weeks to go and well on our way...   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on April 20, 2015, 07:44:43 PM
I may have overestimated the Brewers.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on May 17, 2015, 10:31:01 AM
So apparently the Cubs are competitive this season. They might even be a playoff contender, if they can ever find anyone worth a shit in their bullpen.

Also, Kris Bryant is the real deal, and Anthony Rizzo's contract is STILL insanely club-friendly. I mean, the Cubs have him for a total of 9 years with options for a total of like $72 million or some ridiculously low number. For a guy who'll likely settle in at .280 with 20-30 HR's and 100+ RBI's a season, plays decent defense and bats left-handed. HOW THE FUCK DID THAT HAPPEN?


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on June 02, 2015, 05:16:34 PM
Watching the Cubs play the Marlins in Miami. Holy shit, that is one expensive empty ass stadium.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on June 02, 2015, 06:36:19 PM
Watching the Cubs play the Marlins in Miami. Holy shit, that is one expensive empty ass stadium.

I haven't wished anyone dead yet, but the Marlins owner will be in the top 10 if I ever do.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on June 02, 2015, 08:14:35 PM
Lloyd McClendon finally lost his fucking mind and got ejected. Hopefully that will wake his goddamned club up.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on June 03, 2015, 05:24:29 AM
Seattle shouldn't be as shitty as they are. I mean FFS the Astros are leading that division. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Phildo on June 03, 2015, 06:44:07 AM
Stop using Fernando Rodney as a closer and that'll help.

Last week, I tried to talk my family into going to a baseball game while we were visiting San Francisco and we couldn't make it work.  So instead, I was sitting in a hotel lobbey when Madison Bumgarner hit a home run off Clayton Kershaw.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on June 03, 2015, 06:45:00 AM
Lloyd McClendon finally lost his fucking mind and got ejected. Hopefully that will wake his goddamned club up.

Reminds me that nothing beats telling the ump he's fucking wrong, grabbing first base, and taking it with you to the dugout. McClendon has one of the best ejection moments of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhnoCkp2QUo


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on June 03, 2015, 09:39:47 AM
I have a soft spot in my heart for Lloyd McClendon because of how instrumental he was in getting the Cubs to the playoffs in '89, the first season I really paid attention to baseball since I'd been in elementary school. That was the season that cemented my love for the Cubs. He played like EVERYWHERE that year - infield, outfield, even catching. The only thing he didn't do was pitch.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on June 03, 2015, 09:45:51 AM
Stop using Fernando Rodney as a closer and that'll help.

Last week, I tried to talk my family into going to a baseball game while we were visiting San Francisco and we couldn't make it work.  So instead, I was sitting in a hotel lobbey when Madison Bumgarner hit a home run off Clayton Kershaw.

My buddy happened to be in town working and his client took him to that game! Pretty serendipitous.

And yes, Rodney needs to relegated to mop up duty. In a jerk off booth.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Phildo on June 04, 2015, 10:38:00 AM
Bartolo Colon is apparently working very hard to improve his hitting. (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/bartolo-colon-is-not-here-to-amuse-you--wants-to-continue-to-improve-hitting-152527489.html)


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on June 04, 2015, 11:30:22 AM
He's a national treasure.

Also the Braves blew two games in a row in the pen. It's the worst in the league. We'd literally be leading the division of the pen would stop fucking up. I'm looking at you too Seattle.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on June 04, 2015, 12:35:13 PM
Hey, it can't be much worse than the Cubs pen, can it?


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on June 04, 2015, 12:39:23 PM
He's a national treasure.

Also the Braves blew two games in a row in the pen. It's the worst in the league. We'd literally be leading the division of the pen would stop fucking up. I'm looking at you too Seattle.

Seattle can't hit, and when they manage to push a couple of runs across, the bullpen shits its pants. Same as it ever was.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on June 04, 2015, 12:46:48 PM
Putting together an effective bullpen is the real GM voodoo magic of modern baseball. It is almost entirely pure fucking luck.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on June 04, 2015, 01:34:15 PM
Hey, it can't be much worse than the Cubs pen, can it?

It's about a run worse in ERA. So yeah.

Seattle can't hit, and when they manage to push a couple of runs across, the bullpen shits its pants. Same as it ever was.

Yeah I looked up Seattle's hitting. WTF?


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on June 04, 2015, 01:43:36 PM
Robby Cano is hitting about 80 points below his career average, and literally everyone else besides Nelson Cruz (who has been AMAZING)  and Kyle Seager has been about the same as Cano. It is a shitshow. Trumbo will hit a few home runs, but he won't help the real problem- they don't get anyone on base. Go see how many of their HRs as a team are solo shots. It is nauseating. They never have base runners, and when they do, they try to steal and get thrown out. So much talent just doing nothing. A lot of people are getting fired in October if this doesn't turn around like right now.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on June 04, 2015, 05:49:08 PM
That's the exact problem of the Braves last year. Tons of strikeouts, no runners, and the only time they scored was on homers. Complete bang or bust team. Mostly bust.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Sir T on June 16, 2015, 11:12:43 AM
Sooo, baseball needed a deflategate and its HEEEERRREEEE! Except its a little more serious than that, if possible...


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Breaking: The FBI is investigating the Cardinals for hacking into the Astros’ computer system

Craig Calcaterra

Jun 16, 2015, 11:18 AM EDT
167 Comments

You’ll recall that last year someone hacked into the Astros’ “Ground Control” database, which is the internal communication and evaluation system. Among the stolen data — which was subsequently posted online — were internal discussions about a possible trade for Giancarlo Stanton last year, the leadup to the Bud Norris trade and discussions between the Astros and Yankees in which the Yankees offered Ichiro Suzuki to Houston for cash. Not the sort of stuff a team wants public.

Now, according to an exclusive report in the New York Times, the FBI has a suspect. The Best Suspect in Baseball:

    Investigators have uncovered evidence that Cardinals officials broke into a network of the Houston Astros that housed special databases the team had built, according to law enforcement officials . . . The officials did not say which employees were the focus of the investigation or whether the team’s highest-ranking officials were aware of the hacking or authorized it. The investigation is being led by the F.B.I.’s Houston field office and has progressed to the point that subpoenas have been served on the Cardinals and Major League Baseball for electronic correspondence.

The Times reports that the impetus for this was both (a) concern that former Cards executive Jeff Luhnow took proprietary information with him when he left for Houston to become the Astros’ GM; and (b) lingering resentment over Lunhow’s tenure with the Cardinals, where he was reported to have been a polarizing figure. It was not a sophisticated hack, the Times reports. Rather, Cards employees referred to a master password list Luhnow used when with St. Louis, which used a similar computer system.

Teams scout each other. Teams hire former members of other organizations. Intelligence is probably a pretty underreported part of what goes on inside baseball. But hacking someone else’s computer system is illegal and way, way beyond anything we’ve seen in baseball before. Maybe beyond anything we’ve seen in professional sports. As the Times report says, this is nothing short of corporate espionage for which people may be arrested and prosecuted.

If this was some rogue in the lower level of the analytics department it may be one relatively small thing. If this went higher than that and was something people in Cardinals management knew about, it could be one of the biggest scandals baseball has ever seen.

UPDATE: Major League Baseball has issued a statement:

    “Major League Baseball has been aware of and has fully cooperated with the federal investigation into the illegal breach of the Astros’ baseball operations database.  Once the investigative process has been completed by federal law enforcement officials, we will evaluate the next steps and will make decisions promptly.”

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/16/breaking-the-fbi-is-investigating-the-cardinals-for-hacking-into-the-astros-computer-system/?cid=Yahoo


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ingmar on June 16, 2015, 01:42:40 PM
I can't wait to hear what the Best Fans in Baseball have to say about their team, which always Wins the Right Way.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Phildo on June 16, 2015, 02:25:04 PM
Well, let's ask Twitter! (https://twitter.com/bestfansstlouis)

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If the Cards did do something still fuck the FBI and Astros we are a honest and fair organization


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ingmar on June 16, 2015, 03:52:25 PM
Yeah I have a couple Cards fan friends on Facebook who are already grasping for excuses.

So far my favorite is the one speculating that Luhnow took proprietary stuff with him when he went to the Astros and so they were probably just trying to get it back.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on June 16, 2015, 04:02:32 PM
I hope somebody goes to jail for that if true.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on June 16, 2015, 08:27:42 PM
Man, fuck the Cardinals.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on June 17, 2015, 05:17:48 AM
Like you needed more of an excuse to hate them as a Cubbies fan.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on June 18, 2015, 09:56:52 AM
Well sure. But still... fuck the Cardinals.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ingmar on June 18, 2015, 02:51:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxszN_1k6fQ


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ginaz on July 30, 2015, 12:00:20 AM
The most surprising thing about the Toronto/Colorado trade for me was that LaTroy Hawkins is still alive and pitching. :headscratch:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on July 30, 2015, 05:09:57 AM
Braves/Dodgers/Marlins are trying to fuck around with something that would send probably our best pitcher outside of Shelby Miller away.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Phildo on July 30, 2015, 06:01:39 AM
Teheran could always bounce back.  Unless they're trading him, too?


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on July 30, 2015, 08:06:44 AM
Really looking forward to the bloodletting that better fucking occur in the Mariners front office come October. The GM is a fucking disaster, and the manager has found a way to use a terrible roster in about the worst way possible. It is like he searches out ways to lose games. Fucking clownshoes all round.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ginaz on July 30, 2015, 10:53:43 AM
And the Jays land David Price for a package that includes some of Toronto's best pitching prospects.  Looks like they're going all in this year.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/david-price-all-star-pitcher-acquired-by-blue-jays-1.3174169


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Bunk on July 30, 2015, 11:04:50 AM
I wondered why I had heard they assigned their number five starter to the minors last night.

Guess its the right year to try, its the most mediocre the AL East has looked in years.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on July 30, 2015, 11:31:29 AM
They've made some pretty big statement trades, so yeah, I'd say they are all in for the playoffs. 7 games back at .500 though is a pretty shitty position to be making such huge trades. Yeah, they are only 2 games off the wild card, but that only guarantees you a one-game playoff. Price being a free agent at the end of the season means you better damn well at least get past that playoff.

I'm kind of annoyed that the Cubs haven't been buyers on ANY of these big trades. I don't think they are one pitcher or one bat away from making a run but their starting pitching is dicey and the back end of their bullpen is suspect. I would have rather they moved Castro for Tulo or a pitcher but only if they think Russell can be a good every day 2B/SS and Javier Baez can stop swinging at everything.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Fordel on July 30, 2015, 01:27:11 PM
So the Jays are good this year?

I've been lied to before!


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on July 30, 2015, 01:41:51 PM
Having Price for a 1 game wildcard is helpful.

Also could be getting another bullpen arm maybe in another month if Stroman can make it back from his knee injury.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on July 30, 2015, 01:42:40 PM
Braves trade away Alex Wood, Jim Johnson, Jose Peraza, and Bronson Arroyo. Oh and Luis Avilan.

We got back basically Hector Olivera, a Cuban phenom supposedly, and a lefty reliever along with a top round compensation pick. I have no idea how the fuck this was balanced, but whatever.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Bunk on July 31, 2015, 08:07:06 AM
Having Price for a 1 game wildcard is helpful.

Also could be getting another bullpen arm maybe in another month if Stroman can make it back from his knee injury.


They are 7 games back of the Yanks right now, but they play them 14 more times, so who knows - they may make it in outright.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Goumindong on July 31, 2015, 06:24:51 PM
Really looking forward to the bloodletting that better fucking occur in the Mariners front office come October. The GM is a fucking disaster, and the manager has found a way to use a terrible roster in about the worst way possible. It is like he searches out ways to lose games. Fucking clownshoes all round.
McClendon had been wonderful. What are you talking about?


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 01, 2015, 12:29:22 PM
I disagree. He makes mistakes nearly every game, and his handling of Rodney has been especially terrible. He is not the biggest problem by far, but he could be a lot better.

The entire organization should be embarrassed that the Blue Jays had to tell them that Rodney was tipping pitches. Scouts, coaches, manager, front office- no one bothered to look? And then an amateur baseball writer goes back and looks at publicly available game footage and figures it out in like 2 minutes. People need to lose their jobs for that.

In case you don't know what I am babbling about (http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2015/7/29/9066027/is-fernando-rodney-tipping-his-pitches).



Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Goumindong on August 07, 2015, 12:01:07 PM
Rodney is on the pitching coaches. His handling of him has otherwise been fine. Playing him commensurate with his performance.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 07, 2015, 12:44:59 PM
He has been a fucking disaster the entire season, and still gets used in high leverage situations. That is on Lloyd. He should be pitching long relief and mop up duty until he unfucks himself. He has cost them 6 or 7 wins at least.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on August 07, 2015, 01:05:40 PM
Braves are trading Chris Johnson for Michael Bourn and useless sack of shit Nick Swisher.

THE CYCLE IS COMPLETE


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Goumindong on August 09, 2015, 04:17:26 PM
He has been a fucking disaster the entire season, and still gets used in high leverage situations. That is on Lloyd. He should be pitching long relief and mop up duty until he unfucks himself. He has cost them 6 or 7 wins at least.

He hasn't been pitching high leverage situation. We put him in when we're either losing or winning by a lot. We put him in when we're tied only if we have no one else and/or are thinking we're going to be going into extra innings anyway. There is no good way to handle our relievers. We had to motherfucking put a starter in for relief at one point its so bad. If you think this is on Lloyd you don't have a clue about either how to manage pitchers or how bad shit is out there.

We can't put him in for long relief because his arm doesn't last that long. Two innings tops does not make a long reliever.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 09, 2015, 05:36:10 PM
Do you even watch the games? His last 3 appearances have been in tie or close games.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ginaz on August 13, 2015, 02:38:16 PM
Is it safe to take a seat on the Jays band wagon now?


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Fordel on August 13, 2015, 04:37:31 PM
Sure! There's plenty of room!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qag6w_Tp50A

 :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Phildo on August 14, 2015, 10:53:42 AM
Oh Pedro, never change! (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/pedro-alvarez-makes-fantastic-diving-stop--drops-ball-while-running-to-first-035555941.html)


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: murdoc on August 14, 2015, 04:52:18 PM
Is it safe to take a seat on the Jays band wagon now?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMPz0l-VAAA-UId.png)


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ginaz on August 16, 2015, 01:34:25 AM
Is it safe to take a seat on the Jays band wagon now?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMPz0l-VAAA-UId.png)

As long as I get play a flaming guitar then its all good.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on August 16, 2015, 12:40:03 PM
I'll be on the Jays bandwagon. Since my Cubs are actually competitive this year, I'll have to root for them first but after that, I'm good with the Jays or the Royals making some headway. The rest of the NL can go fuck itself, except for the Pirates, who have to be my fallback NL team.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 18, 2015, 09:32:56 AM
Another Rodney appearance in a tied game, another loss. Still not Lloyd's fault?


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Rasix on August 25, 2015, 04:16:23 PM
Curt Schilling can't stop fucking up: http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/us/curt-schilling-insensitive-tweet/index.html


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 25, 2015, 05:53:00 PM
Someone should have sent him a meme that said 99% of libertarians are selfish manchildren. God he is a such a fucking douche.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: ynotgolf on August 28, 2015, 12:49:27 PM
About freaking time the M's fired Jack Z!

Holding my breath they hire someone who understands or at least appreciates sabermetrics.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 28, 2015, 04:21:15 PM
About freaking time the M's fired Jack Z!

Holding my breath they hire someone who understands or at least appreciates sabermetrics.

No chance. The same dolts are doing the hiring, so they will fuck this up too. The Mariners are doomed until they get a real owner who actually wants to win.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ingmar on September 02, 2015, 04:54:16 PM
The rumor that should horrify you is Kevin Towers.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ginaz on September 27, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
So...the Blue Jays are back in the playoffs and looking like they may even end up1st overall in the AL.  Not that you would know that from all the "coverage" they're getting from the US sports media. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Phildo on September 27, 2015, 08:38:24 PM
Who cares about the Blue Jays when Jonathan Papelbon is trying to choke out his MVP-candidate teammate?  http://deadspin.com/jonathan-papelbon-and-bryce-harper-brawl-in-nationals-d-1733270056


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ginaz on September 28, 2015, 01:17:06 AM
Who cares about the Blue Jays when Jonathan Papelbon is trying to choke out his MVP-candidate teammate?  http://deadspin.com/jonathan-papelbon-and-bryce-harper-brawl-in-nationals-d-1733270056

OMG.  It's like you read my mind.  I was thinking about all the attention Papelbon has received lately compared to the almost zero mention of anything about the Jays not more than 2 mins ago and was going to post something to that effect.  Didn't know he choked out Harper today, though.  You know you're a douche bag when you make Bryce Harper into a sympathetic character.  I saw the play and it wasn't anything almost all major league players have done at some point, and a double "who gives a fuck?" because it was a completely meaningless game against the Phillies.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on September 28, 2015, 06:30:10 AM
As tempting as it is to cry American bias, the Jays aren't a standout story. Both them and the Cubs have impressive playoff stories.  Then there's still a lot of race talk, like the Astros collapse, and the overall AL wild card situation.

There will be more focus on playoff teams once it starts.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Shannow on September 28, 2015, 06:56:22 AM
The playoffs this year are easy.

Anyone but the Cardinals or the Yankees. Cubs/Royals WS? Fuck yeah.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on September 28, 2015, 07:25:41 AM
The only objectionable team for me in the AL is the Yankees

The only team I don't find objectionable in the NL is the Cubs. Maybe the Pirates but let's get real they'll flub it.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on September 28, 2015, 08:39:17 AM
Johnathan Papelbon needs to sit down and shut the fuck up. He gets a trade to a contender and makes almost no real impression other than to piss off the closer that they already had to the point where said closer busts his fist on a locker door. Oh and then he attacks the best player on their team for what amounts to fucking nothing. I'm not one to say Harper shouldn't leg out a fly ball but I'm not about to start talking shit to the dude who is obviously not happy about it when he comes back to the dugout. Especially when I then go out and throw a 2-run tater to a guy in a tie ballgame the very next fucking inning. Fuck Papelbon. I'm glad the Cubs didn't trade for him even though they could have used a closer. Too bad Harper didn't break his jaw - must not be a New York Jets fan.

As for the Blue Jays, if you watch MLB Network, they are getting a LOT of love there. It's just that their playoff return was a foregone conclusion after the trading deadline and there's other stories that have come up. The Rangers coming back from the dead to lead the AL West as the Astros collapse - also the Angels coming back to challenge for the wild card spot. The Twins charging for that AL Wild Card spot. The Mets finding an offense and winning a division. The utter failure of the Nats to live up to their potential and the ensuing soap opera.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on September 28, 2015, 09:31:35 AM
The utter failure of the Nats to live up to their potential and the ensuing soap opera.

This is my favorite part of a Braves fan with a shitty rebuilding team. Watching the Nats implode in real time while douchnozzle Bryce Harper has to stew on his "Where's my Ring" comment from the beginning of the season. Because that will live forever until he gets one. Just like Lebron's NOT ONE...


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on September 28, 2015, 01:56:51 PM
Papel-douche done for the season. (http://deadspin.com/nationals-suspend-jonathan-papelbon-for-choking-out-the-1733394249)

Since he was already facing a 3-game suspension for popping Manny Machado, the Nats suspended Papeldon for the other 4 games of the season because of the incident with Harper.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: naum on September 28, 2015, 03:19:57 PM
The only team I don't find objectionable in the NL is the Cubs. Maybe the Pirates but let's get real they'll flub it.

Story of their season might be encapsulated by last 10 days -- win 8 in a row, then lose to the hot ace (Arietta) who they're most likely going to face in the one-and-done wildcard game.

Unless they can catch the Cardinals - 3 games out, but starting a 3 game series tonight.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Shannow on September 29, 2015, 08:48:46 AM
Papelbon's act was tired even on the Red Sox. As for people saying Harper should've hustled....Fuuuuuuuuckkkk offffffff. If that was the case Papelbon and David Ortiz would've fought ever night.

The whole 'respect the game', 'oh you pimped that home run/flipped your bat/stood in the batter's box exactly .1 seconds too long' shit is fucking bullshit. I'm especially looking at you Cardinals and Yankees (with a particular kick in the nuts for Brian McCann). Just fuck off and don't give up home runs if you don't like it.

How come no one gets pissed a pitcher for fist pumping when he gets an out?  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on September 29, 2015, 08:54:15 AM
The Orioles are a sensitive bunch too. Expect some drama from Buck Showtalker and the gang if the Jays clinch tonight and get exuberant.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: 01101010 on September 29, 2015, 09:39:12 AM
How come no one gets pissed a pitcher for fist pumping when he gets an out?  :oh_i_see:

You have a point. And I concur. Hit a home run, fuck it...you get to do whatever the hell you want, stand in the box till it bounces, watch it on the big screen, skip around the bases. Fuck prima donna pitchers getting their feelings hurt because a batter took them yard. Want to make a statement about it, strike his ass out next at bat, or intentionally walk him.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on September 29, 2015, 09:43:14 AM
So I suppose Way has not commented on the new GM for the Mariners (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13764205/seattle-mariners-hire-jerry-dipoto-new-general-manager) due to being drunk off his ass in celebration? Not sure if this is a good signing or not, with Dipoto's troubles with Mike Scioscia causing him to lose his job. But surely Lloyd McClendon is easy to work with?  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 29, 2015, 09:49:29 AM
See my comments above- the same shitheads that hired the last two GMs are still running the show, and still retarded, so anyone they pick I will take with a truckload of salt. I am optimistic because DiPoto was at odds with the cretinous Scioscia, so that is a good mark in his column. See Jonah Keri's column on Grantland about it from last summer for details.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ginaz on September 29, 2015, 10:54:39 AM

How come no one gets pissed a pitcher for fist pumping when he gets an out?  :oh_i_see:

The Jays in the 1992 ALCS didn't like the way Dennis Eckersley fist pumped towards the Toronto dugout after striking out Ed Sprague to end the 8th.  So when Roberto Alomar hit his home run off Eckersley to tie the game, the whole Blue Jay bench came out onto the field to celebrate and throw shit back at Eckersley.  It was beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhCePSe2Tac



Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on October 08, 2015, 07:37:55 AM
CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!!!

Ok so it was one game, but it was a damn good game. And now we get the Cardinals, who are vulnerable IMO despite having won 100 games.

Also, Jake Arrieta is pitching pretty goddamn good.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: 01101010 on October 08, 2015, 08:13:59 AM
CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!!!

Ok so it was one game, but it was a damn good game. And now we get the Cardinals, who are vulnerable IMO despite having won 100 games.

Also, Jake Arrieta is pitching pretty goddamn good.

Yeah he is... that isn't in question. The rest of that bullpen, however, is.

I am kinda thankful the Pirates lost. Given my chosen sports teams, I have no sympathy for these river people and their wailing and gnashing of teeth because the Pirates got bounced, AGAIN - but I do understand. That said, at least I won't have to deal with the baseball fans and everyone can turn back into Steeler/Pens loonies.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on October 08, 2015, 08:30:01 AM
Yeah, the biggest weakness on the team is the bullpen. I have no faith in anyone in the Cubs pen. I still wish they hadn't pushed Arrieta to 9 innings last night though. We are going to need him in St. Louis.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on October 08, 2015, 09:40:12 AM
I don't like the Cubs or the Astros. I hate clubs that as an attempt to win, purposefully tank for years to try and bounce back loaded with young talent. It's so disrespectful to fans, players, and abuses the good faith foundation of the modern (North American) sports concept of an entry draft where top picks go to bad teams to help them get competitive again. May as well go back to the pre-draft academy style systems if the draft is going to be abused like this.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ingmar on October 08, 2015, 09:55:08 AM
That's not what happens in baseball. Teams for the most part don't tank to hoard up draft picks; they trade for prospects who have already been drafted.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Fordel on October 08, 2015, 11:22:50 PM
I also don't think the Cubs were purposefully tanking anything, they were just awful.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on October 09, 2015, 08:56:29 AM
I also don't think the Cubs were purposefully tanking anything, they were just awful.  :why_so_serious:

That.

The closest most teams can get to "tanking" is by fielding nothing but youngsters from the minors (like the Marlins did a few times in their history, usually right after a World Series win) or signing a bunch of middling vets to fill out positions that they don't have minor leaguers for. Most teams don't "tank" at anything below the general manager level. The guys on the field are usually trying to win, they just may lack all ability to do so.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 09, 2015, 09:05:00 AM
Sounds like McLendon is out in Seattle. Can't say I am not happy about that. His handling of the bullpen and his seeming indifference to the appalling baserunning mistakes that pervaded the entire season are reason enough to dump him.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on October 09, 2015, 11:04:47 AM
I also don't think the Cubs were purposefully tanking anything, they were just awful.  :why_so_serious:

That.

The closest most teams can get to "tanking" is by fielding nothing but youngsters from the minors (like the Marlins did a few times in their history, usually right after a World Series win) or signing a bunch of middling vets to fill out positions that they don't have minor leaguers for. Most teams don't "tank" at anything below the general manager level. The guys on the field are usually trying to win, they just may lack all ability to do so.

The Braves tanked this year. Traded away the team for magic beans at the All-Star break.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on October 09, 2015, 11:30:25 AM
Again, that's the GM - not the players. That's about as close to tanking as you are going to see in professional sports. And I don't consider that tanking so much as "rebuilding" or "restructuring." It's like bankruptcy for sports teams.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ingmar on October 10, 2015, 08:39:14 PM
You do see actual tanking in the NBA.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on October 10, 2015, 09:20:18 PM
Yeah but the NBA blows.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on October 13, 2015, 05:43:37 PM
CUBS WIN! CUBS WIN!


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Shannow on October 13, 2015, 08:05:32 PM
And just as importantly cardinals lose!  Is there room on that bandwagon?


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on October 13, 2015, 08:09:53 PM
Plenty!

I'm also rooting for the Mets because I think the Cubs have a better chance against them than against the 2-headed hydra of Kershaw and Greinke.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ingmar on October 13, 2015, 11:24:29 PM
We're really close to a final four consisting of all the blue teams I was disappointed to see when I opened a pack of baseball cards at age 8.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ginaz on October 14, 2015, 05:36:56 PM
JAYS WIN!  JAYS WIN!

Wow, what a game. :yahoo:  We're edging closer and closer to Back to the Future 2.  I, of course, would want the Jays to win if they played the Cubs but I'd be OK if they didn't.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Bunk on October 14, 2015, 06:39:29 PM
Craziest inning of Baseball I've ever watched. (7th Jays/Rangers). Took about 50 minutes to play.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: murdoc on October 14, 2015, 06:41:10 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRUC-LEWUAEAWbY.jpg)


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on October 14, 2015, 07:25:48 PM
Such disrespect.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ginaz on October 14, 2015, 07:27:52 PM
Such disrespect.  :why_so_serious:

Where's Brian McCann when you need him? :grin:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Fordel on October 15, 2015, 04:03:58 AM
"That's what I THOUGHT!"


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Shannow on October 15, 2015, 05:04:20 AM
Such disrespect.  :why_so_serious:

Where's Brian McCann when you need him? :grin:

On the golf course, WHERE HE BELONGS.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Special J on October 15, 2015, 08:49:34 AM
I can watch that over and over.

 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Shannow on October 16, 2015, 06:11:56 AM
A rather hilarious  oral history of that 7th inning  (http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-playoffs-blue-jays-rangers-alds-game-5-seventh-inning-oral-history/)


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: 01101010 on October 22, 2015, 03:10:37 AM
So much for the Cubs...  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on October 22, 2015, 05:59:18 AM
So much for the Cubs...  :oh_i_see:

But it was their density.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on October 22, 2015, 07:20:10 AM
We are after all... the fucking Cubs.

I tried to watch all 4 games but after we got down 4-0 in the first fucking inning, I just couldn't do it. You have to give the Cubs credit - they know how to consistently break their fans hearts.

They looked goddamn awful in the series. The Mets outplayed them in every fucking way. The one area I was really concerned about (bullpen) didn't do that bad. Starting pitching was mediocre at best while the Mets' starting pitching was fucking lights out. The Cubs offense just didn't bother to show up at all. Kris Bryant looked like he should have been swinging a fucking tennis racket for as many bad pitches as he went after and I still don't think he'd have hit the ball. Our 3-4-5 hitters all hit less than .250. I know through at least game 4, we did not get ONE SINGLE LEADOFF HITTER on base in any inning. NONE. We started every single fucking game down by at least 1 run. And instead of being able to feast on a shaky middle inning bullpen of the Mets, the Cubs just got sawed off by that starting pitching. And our defense was weak especially in the last two games.

The future is bright, obviously. The team has a really good corp of young hitters. It just needs some good young pitchers to go with it. IMO, we WAY OVERPAID for Jon Lester based on the fact that he won a World Series. He was nothing more than serviceable in the big games (i.e. he was good when he needed to be great). Arrieta came crashing to earth after that wild card play-in game performance and I really think Maddon made a mistake taking him the distance in that game. He didn't look the same in the 2 starts after that.

But hey, at least I had a reason to care about baseball past May 1st! It's been a long time since I could say that.

GO ROYALS (or Blue Jays if they manage to come back and win that series)! What I'm really saying is FUCK THE METS.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: 01101010 on October 22, 2015, 08:52:29 AM
What I'm really saying is FUCK THE METS.

Gold Jerry!
(http://i.imgur.com/miyiMiZ.jpg)


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on October 23, 2015, 09:25:52 PM
Man, only one who could land a clutch hit was Bautista. Donaldson does sfa


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Fordel on October 24, 2015, 02:32:27 PM
Yea I was saying the other night I hope we are paying him lots of money, since he always seems to hit the ball when it counts.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on October 24, 2015, 03:48:43 PM
Annoying to see whining about the umps, the bottom line was 0 for 12 RISP.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on October 24, 2015, 07:55:56 PM
The umps were just as inconsistent with their strike zones in the Cubs/Mets series. I was real disappointed in the umping, but that's not why the Cubs or the Jays lost.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Phildo on October 28, 2015, 07:23:13 AM
Edison Volquez pitched game 1 not knowing that his father had just died. (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/the-royals-didn-t-tell-edinson-volquez-his-dad-died--at-his-family-s-request-071228580.html)


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: 01101010 on November 02, 2015, 06:48:04 AM
And the Royals win the WS and no one cared...  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on November 02, 2015, 06:50:34 AM
I cared. Not enough to watch, since my Packers were getting their shit pushed in by Denver, but I'm glad they beat the Mets. Fuck the Mets.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Phildo on November 02, 2015, 07:37:33 AM
I cared, too.  Nice to see Volquez pitch well in this one, considering the circumstances of his last start.  Shame he didn't get the W.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on November 02, 2015, 11:11:54 AM
And the Royals win the WS and no one cared...  :why_so_serious:

People need to just give up on the idea that MLB is a national appeal sport. It's not. There's too many games for it to be a national appeal sport. Football does well because one game decides the playoffs. Not 7. Series don't do well on TV numbers because fans thinks meh I'll watch later on, and they don't.

If your team is in the MLB playoffs, you care. If you're a casual fan, the chances you watch are next to nil. I watched one game all series, and that was with a group.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: 01101010 on November 02, 2015, 01:14:15 PM
And the Royals win the WS and no one cared...  :why_so_serious:

People need to just give up on the idea that MLB is a national appeal sport. It's not. There's too many games for it to be a national appeal sport. Football does well because one game decides the playoffs. Not 7. Series don't do well on TV numbers because fans thinks meh I'll watch later on, and they don't.

If your team is in the MLB playoffs, you care. If you're a casual fan, the chances you watch are next to nil. I watched one game all series, and that was with a group.

True that save for the series part. You need a series format in baseball given the pitching situation - ask any Pirates fan...  :why_so_serious:

If one of the big market teams are not in the playoffs/world series, it is like no one cares. Hell, there are more NFL stories on the front page and for longer than the KC story was this morning. America's pastime is passed its time so to speak. I do still enjoy going to PNC Park for a game a year - nothing like that lazy feeling sitting in the stands watching a game with a $10 hotdog.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on November 02, 2015, 01:21:57 PM
The thing is baseball does just fine. It's still one of the most popular sports in the USA. It's just not the NFL, which is a freakshow by comparison.

And the MLB shouldn't be held to that standard. It's different. It does well locally in a lot of markets, and it produces massive TV revenues and attendance because of how many games they play. It's the background noise of the summer, while NFL is the sound and fury of the Fall/Winter.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with baseball not being a national sport, or the World Series not drawing like an NFL game. Baseball is starting to join the 20th century, and maybe in 50 years they'll join the 21st. Long after the NFL has already imploded under a pile of flags, CBAs, scandals, and terrible QB play.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on November 12, 2015, 06:01:03 PM
Braves just traded Simmons to the Angels for Aybar and some pitching prospects.

Fans are...salty.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on November 12, 2015, 09:32:10 PM
I like Aybar, he's a hella SS. Real clutch


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on November 13, 2015, 06:03:13 AM
To be fair, I love the move. Simmons was one of the most frustrating hitters with the best glove I've ever seen. He was Picasso in the field, and Andy Warhol at the plate.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on December 11, 2015, 12:51:38 PM
Cubs are signing Jason Heyward. Enjoy all that. You'll love hearing how baseball stat-heads tell you he's the most amazing outfielder ever because of his defense while he hits 15 home runs a year and you're paying him $180M+


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on December 11, 2015, 12:58:26 PM
Yeah, I just heard about that. Thing is, he can hit 15 homers and have great defense on this team. It's not like they NEED power - everybody in their lineup hits for 10+ homers.  :grin: The projected lineup with him in center and hitting 2nd is pretty scary - I'd have taken his 23 stolen bases and .293 average in that spot, because right after him you'd have Rizzo (31 HR), Bryant (26 HR) and Schwarber (16 HR in only 69 games). With Zobrist at the top of the order, his .279 batting average is a HUGE upgrade over Fowler in the leadoff spot, setting the table for all that beef behind him.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Ginaz on December 11, 2015, 01:06:56 PM
Cubs are signing Jason Heyward. Enjoy all that. You'll love hearing how baseball stat-heads tell you he's the most amazing outfielder ever because of his defense while he hits 15 home runs a year and you're paying him $180M+

I'll stick with Kevin Pillar.  Decent OBP (.314), 12 HR, WAR of 5.2 and a salary of $512K.  The WAR numbers are mostly related to his defence, which is excellent.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Paelos on December 11, 2015, 01:14:22 PM
Yeah, I just heard about that. Thing is, he can hit 15 homers and have great defense on this team. It's not like they NEED power - everybody in their lineup hits for 10+ homers.  :grin: The projected lineup with him in center and hitting 2nd is pretty scary - I'd have taken his 23 stolen bases and .293 average in that spot, because right after him you'd have Rizzo (31 HR), Bryant (26 HR) and Schwarber (16 HR in only 69 games). With Zobrist at the top of the order, his .279 batting average is a HUGE upgrade over Fowler in the leadoff spot, setting the table for all that beef behind him.

Yeah you don't need the dingers. You need hitters, and Heyward can do that assuming that hitch in his swing doesn't get ice cold at the wrong time, or if pitchers realize you can pitch him inside and he's got no answers.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on December 11, 2015, 01:25:45 PM
I'm actually a shitton more worried that the best pitcher we've signed was Jon Lackey. Our rotation is on the old side and Lackey really choked in the playoffs against the Cubs. I'd feel much better if we had some young arms like the Mets do.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: HaemishM on December 11, 2015, 02:29:17 PM
Also, Cardinals fans are absolutely LOSING THEIR SHIT on Twitter over this, so even if he hits .200, it'll still be worth it.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Bunk on December 11, 2015, 02:57:35 PM
Cubs are signing Jason Heyward. Enjoy all that. You'll love hearing how baseball stat-heads tell you he's the most amazing outfielder ever because of his defense while he hits 15 home runs a year and you're paying him $180M+

I'll stick with Kevin Pillar.  Decent OBP (.314), 12 HR, WAR of 5.2 and a salary of $512K.  The WAR numbers are mostly related to his defence, which is excellent.

The Jays totally stumbled in to Pillar. He was penciled in as the number four outfielder at the start of the year.


Title: Re: MLB 2015
Post by: Shannow on December 11, 2015, 04:49:51 PM
Also, Cardinals fans are absolutely LOSING THEIR SHIT on Twitter over this, so even if he hits .200, it'll still be worth it.  :why_so_serious:

 :Love_Letters:
But they're so classy!