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6 part event series with Chris Carter, David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson starts production this Summer.

http://www.fox.com/the-x-files/thexfiles

FUCK. YES.

Was just going to post this. Can't wait.

After the last movie, I could give zero fucks.

I am cautiously curious. Hopefully this will be X-Files seasons 1-4 and not post-season 4.

This can't be successful. It's tied to a time and place. Anything trying to capture X-Files spirit can't go back there. PoI is probably a better X-FIles for today than making new X-FIles today.

I know, I know!  I'm shivering with anticipation already!  Or maybe that's just prickly heat.  Anyway, I can't wait either!  I'm nearly finished watching the old ones now just to be ready.

I really hope it doesn't suck.  I will cry real tears if it does.

I wish they'd "rebooted" Millennium instead of X-Files (and I'm sure they would have gotten Lance Henriksen alot cheaper/easier than the David Duchovny / Gillian Anderson -duo... considering Lance has been doing Asylum movies lately).

Yeah.  I mean, I'll be watching this anyway, but mostly out of morbid curiosity.  No expectation of it being a tenth as good as the old show.

Duchovny and Anderson have done what, exactly, recently?  I think this is budget friendly.

I'd really like it if they started it with Mulder waking up and realizing everything since he left the series (and, honestly, everything for about a season or so prior to that) was a coma based dream.  Maybe even set the series in the 90s.

Californication. Which was spectacular up until the last season, which is par for nearly all television (including say, Rome).  Gillian Anderson is in the hottest show currently on television and stars in the upcoming season (Hannibal).

Budget has nothing to fucking do with it. They could get any amount of money they want.

I think I have seen one or both of the movies, but never watched the show. Really need to go back and binge it.

I tried getting through the whole show a few years back, but the shitty monster of the week episodes really turned me off. If they were all aliens/conspiracy focused I might have been able to get through it.

I thought Californication ended a ways back.  My mistake.  Looks like Duchovny was making $200K per episode and Anderson $100K per episode for Hannibal - not the cheapest.

I kind of liked the "Monster of the Week/Twilight Zone/Alien Conspiracy" rotation, It kept things entertaining without having it bog down in "How are we going to come up with 20+ episodes of Alien Conspiracy stuff this season" wheel-spinning. The "Twilight Zone" episodes were the best in a lot of ways, it let them bring in a lot of Science Fiction authors with weird and interesting ideas, the MotW episodes were more filler than anything else, but some of them were still really fun (like the "COPS Crossover" episode).

Without X-Files, I don't think we ever would have seen the Whedonverse, or any of the other "Spiritual Successors" like Supernatural. Prime time science fiction was deader than dogshit until the X-Files Friday Night Miracle.

--Dave

EDIT: Here's the semi-official "Mythology" episode list (http://x-files.wikia.com/wiki/Mythology), and here is a fan-created list (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/175270-the-x-files-conspiracy-episode-list-discussion/) that includes a few episodes the "Mythology" set doesn't, mostly because they introduce or explore characters that were important in that arc (Kryzek and Smoking Man, mostly).

EDIT2: I guess I should say "Non Space Opera" sci-fi was dead, and people were getting burned out on that.

I generally preferred the MOTW/TZ episodes, myself. The mythology stuff kind of got up its own ass after a while.

Ditto.  I think that's part of why the movies sucked -- they focused on the least fun part of the series.

Movies? Only one of them had anythimg to do with the conspiracy.

Both the monster and storyline episodes were fine, for the first three seasons or so. Show totally took a nosedive after that.

This. It really fell off after that episode where they found the alien ship in the desert for a cliffhanger. This was one of those shows that needed a definite ending date so someone could say "FINISH IT, YOU FUCK!" because despite the show having ended, the story has still not been given anything like an ending. To me, the alien stuff was the most interesting, and the first movie was a good continuation of that, but it did seriously disappear up its own ass after season 3. The monster of the week shows were filler but some of them were really well done. I mean, the hair fetish serial killer guy Donnie was an episode that STILL creeps me out, and the actor that played Donnie should have gotten a lot bigger roles than he did afterwards.

The Unnatural is one of my very favorite hours of television ever.

Which was interestingly a MotW and Conspiracy episode... and just well done.

And written and directed by David Duchovny.

That was the baseball black man Alien ?

Yeah.

The most memorable episode to me is still Home. I don't think I ever want to see it again, but man.

The episode that stuck with me more than the others on my fav list is "Detour." Shit freaked me out.

Other honorable mentions on my llst:

Ice
Paperclip
Zero Sum

Jose Chung's From Outer Space

My personal favorite. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGGWzB11P30)

https://twitter.com/davidduchovny/status/580509096878743554

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I just fucking squeed.

X-Files is one of the things I just geek over, apparently.

Yeah that was one of the shows I watched religiously until Duchovny left. And every Tuesday I would eat sushi and discuss Sunday's episode with the head chef there.

Hell, even after Duchovny left, I still enjoyed the show and thought Robert Patrick did a real nice job.

So now that this has been greenlighted can we get Firefly back for a 6 episode revival? Please?

TAKE MY MONEY.

X-Files and Twin Peaks coming back to TV?  Engage retro-thrusters for the 1990's!   :drill:

https://twitter.com/thexfilesfox/status/608660418949578754

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I just started a rewatch in preparation.  As this summer's TV is horrible, I might actually get through to the point where I want to stop watching before the end of the summer...

Every time they post something else to twitter or facebook about this I giggle like a school girl.

Yeah, X-Files is one of the few things I can't hide my fanboyness of.

The super bright flashlights are back in action! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoIRNja8pMc)

Oh and Mulder and Scullly too.

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Oh my!

Watched the pilot last night since its all on Netflix.

Holds up if you view it as "set in 1993".

In the before time, in the long long ago...

...when shoulder pads were still considered sexy....

Whedon Confirms: Firefly Getting Reboot With Original Cast (http://www.shareonfb.com/pfqq04/Whedon_Confirms_Firefly_Getting_Reboot_With_Original_Cast)

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Even though the question was asked, that doesn't belong in this thread.

See, X-Files was legitimately good.

Wait, someone's actually worried about topic purity on F13?   :uhrr: Like topics around here don't wander like drunken frat boys as it is.

Have you read The Black Honeycrisp ?

X-Files is special.

Heh, well, I guess so.  Did your wife burn all of your Gillian Anderson posters?

The Truth is On The Wall.

Gillian Anderson is on both of our lists.  Wife would gie it a go.

A man can dream.

 :awesome_for_real:

Okay, that make me legit laugh out loud here at my desk.  Well played, good sir.

I haven't seen Anderson in quite some time. I think she looks even sexier now.

Interesting coincidence: Friday evening, we were set to introduce the boy to some more classic movies.  This time it would be Terminator (Netflix).  He was taking his time and so I was poking around Netflix; I quickly found the original X-Files and so my wife and I started watching the pilot.  Fast-forward, my son is the world's newest X-Files fan.

Just re-signed up for FLix too. I think I'll start binge watching it.

I am so excited for XF to return!  Can't wait to see how M&S have changed and what they are up to.  Can you imagine Mulder's twitter?  Scully even twittering at all?  All sorts of things have changed in twenty years, plenty of new story ideas to go around.  I bet Mulder's FB is filled with crop circles and blurry UFO pics.

That's actually an interesting comment.  Watch the second episode and ask yourself what things would be like if they had smartphones, or if Scully had internet access in the motel.  She would have uploaded everything to the cloud before the place was torched.  Also, no caller ID.

Considering I watched the last episode of the X-Files and it was all about that Mulder had found the truth and he could do fuck all about it (there was an alien invasion coming in 2012) And smoking man died as a hippie in a cave, I think what M&S have been doing is "getting off the drugs and explaining why they were fucking wrong about everything.

The last episode of the X-files was utter shit, by the way. So not enthusiastic about a new series.

Heathen!

So I'm now on S02E22 on Netflix. The show really holds up well except the technology stuff. It could almost be a modern day show.

I had watched this show religiously until around when the first movie came out, then I went off to college. I never really finished the series. Looking forward to getting back in to it.

I don't think its particularly heretical to say that the end of the ex-files was really bad.  Last few seasons had stretched the show longer than it should have gone.  They had no real arcs left to cover, and the main actors left the show.  It went the exact same route as Lost, where it should have ended several seasons sooner.  The end was better than the last few seasons had been, but it still felt like a rushed let down after all the build up and superb storytelling of the majority of the series.  I looooooved the X-files, but it was a victim of American TV's standard modus operandi of forcing a show to run as long as it still makes money.  Up until it eventually turns to total shit and everybody stops watching it because you can't tell a narrative story forever with no end in sight.  Then cancel it when its at its very worst.

Mind you, that still doesn't stop it from being one of the best TV series ever made.

Ach, it's hard to blame them when you remember how fucking Huuuuuuge it was.   It was even Huuuuuge over here.

Sure, but when that's how every single show is run in America, it gets old.  I've always been envious of the UK (and Japan) for making so many shows that are just one season.  It was a huge hit!  Great, think of something else now!

Setting a definitive time limit just results in a better overall story.  Open ended is fine when you are just making a totally episodic TV series that only randomly references past episodes like Cheers or Friends.  It falls apart when trying to tell a big coherent story.  BSG probably would have been one of the most perfect series ever if it had just been three seasons (and by that I mean with them knowing they only had one seasons left, they would have done something totally different than they did for season 3  :awesome_for_real:).  Lost being set at 3 seasons also probably would have been good.

The heathen part was for not being excited about the new show. I mentioned earlier that I stopped watching religiously after David left so I don't have issues with people complaining about the how the series ended.

I'm not excited about the new show mainly because 1) I watched the end of the series and it SUCKED and 2) I watched the last movie and it SUCKED EVEN HARDER.

Personally, I just pretend everything after Duchovny left never happened.

A decent amount of the show holds up.. but everything after that part is (and was) horrendous, imo.

I am looking forward to the new episodes, however. Duchovny and Anderson? Yes please.

I liked Doggett and the woman agent but I knew the show was on its last legs.  Loved the first movie, disappointed in the second.  That trainwreck makes me nervous for the new series.  What a terrible X-File.

It was a no-brainer; make another UFO movie and have M&S hook up.  But no, Chris Carter was too coked up to figure out even that simple plot.  Surprise!  M&S are in bed together!  Wha?  We wanted the courtship and seduction, not skipping past that.  At least that's what I wanted.

Well, you also have shit taste in general, sooooooooo.

I'm confused. Are you trying to argue that the last movie was anything but total shit? Or that the ending wasn't terrible?

No, I'm saying the last movie isn't at all indicative of what the new series should be considered. The last movie was just an X-files episode that could have been filler in any random season. There was nothing wrong with it, it was just one of those "barely an X-File" episodes and people wanted something more... grand.

To be honest the best entertainment I got out of the post Second season X files (I think the rot started after the second season) was watching an episode with a Girl who was still a major fan of the show, and the Smoking man had just kidnapped Mulder who was in trouble for some reason. and she said "oh well at least he wont say something stupid like "I am your Father." And then 30 seconds later Smoking man turns to Mulder and says "of course I care. I am your Father." And she literally screamed "NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"  :drill:

Latest trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1SmJUBT5q0

God damn it...  :ye_gods:

I get that same sickly sweet feeling I get when I walk around my undergraduate campus these days. The fond memories come flooding back only to be met with the stark reality that everything is different - same streets and mostly same landmarks, but everything else is askew, just to make everything a bit uncomfortable and foreign.

Now I have to watch while I cry into my blanket wondering where the years have gone.

oh fuck yes

Did this get posted yet?

Ask Yourself (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R1WiuzIQbM)

PREMIERE TONIGHT !!!!

I KNOW RIGHT. OH GOD MORE MULDER AND SCULLY.

Oh please be good so we can get more.

Enjoy your optimism while you can...

100% chance of it being awesome. Not even remotely concerned.

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So hype.

Interesting turn to the story, making it about more modern concerns than the old series. I'm enjoying it despite myself so far.

YES!!!!!  X-Files re-opened!!
Loved it.  


edit: And oh god, Gillian looked good.

Nice. I'm glad it looks like they are going to have some regular x-files cases and not just do a miniseries about the alien tech conspiracy thing.

I don't think these will be "regular" x-files cases.  Every epi. will feed into the larger conspiracy, hopefully. I'd rather not the random weirdness like in the original series.  They have plenty of material the way they laid it out in the premiere, so why waste it on filler?

Also, on a personal note, I got kinda choked up watching this (unexpectedly).  When the original x-files was running, I was just a nerd (high-school then college) with dreams of building "spaceships" doing epic science, and finding the truth, etc.  After ST:TNG and so forth, there was the X-Files.  Most every other IP couldn't touch them.  Now?  I'm watching this reboot not far away from where the premiere was located (northwestern, NM) and working at LANL for the Space Division.  It's given me an odd full circle feeling.

I've already got watch parties in the works that I will hold in the Fuller Lodge (where Manhattan Project folk would gather and eat, etc.) next to Oppenheimer's house.  Maybe we'll get some old timers to speak.  Should be kinda creepy, but exhilarating at the same time.

Nope, the next two are traditional standalone episodes.

But, how do you know?  How do you really, really know?  :awesome_for_real:

As a negative, the choice of digital HD over film, in this case, was a particularly bad one.  If any sci-fi TV series needed to be shot on film, it's the x-files.  Departing from that was a mistake.  It was like watching "As the World Turns," but aliens.

Pros:
Gillian Anderson, killing it as Agent Scully. This one thing might make it worth sticking around for the rest of the series.
Flying saucers!
Alien technology, in the hands of our evil government!
Abductions! Alien DNA! Memory wiping!
Walter Skinner  :drill:
Smoking man, smoking through a hole in his neck  :drill:

Cons:
Duchovny looked like he was asleep. This might be a consequence of trying to play a young man's game at age 55. Or maybe he's portraying Mulder as a complex soup of paranoia, exhaustion, depression, and world-weariness. In which case, bravo!
The conspiracy talk was un-subtle at best, and cringe-worthy at worst. I've watched episodes of the X-Files in which they did a much better job of selling this stuff. I wonder what ...
... happened.

Wife forces me to watch Aquarius because of Mulder.  He's like he's asleep in that too.  I think it's just what he does these days.

The initial ratings are saying 13.5 million viewers. That sounds good to me.

So, I loved this.

I'm not sure why people are complaining about Mulder - he's exactly the same as before. I think there's some viewer memory games at play here.

It feels like a 6 episode pitch to turn it into an actual series again, which is interesting. Six episodes won't even scratch the surface.

Football damn near ruined it.

It's a good start, but the question is now, "How many will come back at it's normal night/ time?"

Everyone who's interested watches a premiere. The following weeks are more critical.

I agree that Mulder is the same as ever. I wanted to slap him just as hard as before when he was going on about the Key to it all.

IMO The saddest part of this is we'll get no Lone Gunmen.

Huh? They're in it.

I think in the intervening years I've lost my tolerance for stupid conspiracy bullshit because this was sooo bad. So bad.

My favorite part was the underlying idea that the American government was going to take over America. Which it, em, currently governs?

The only plausible thing in the entire show was that 'free energy' was being withheld for fossil fuel profiteering. No other reason was given to back up any of the nonsensical claims.

How? They're dead. That whole virus trapping thing that killed them after their show ended.

Death faked, and one of the actors confirmed that they are indeed in the revival series.

 :facepalm:

Happy but this goes hand in hand with the "death is meaningless" nonsense from the SSq thread.

I got the impression that they established Tad as a whack job who happened to be right about this one particular thing. The conspiracy theory was over the top, because lots of it was just mashups with other stuff Tad was peddling.  I thought it was meant to undermine the credibility of the theory so we don't know what parts of it are real.  They've established there is a government agency of some kind that knows about and is developing alien technology. But we don't actually know why or what their end game is.


Also, yes, regarding football, what the hell.  The game was OVER by 10. They cut 20 minutes into the X-Files slot to air a fucking trophy ceremony?

That must be one hell of a faked death as their ghosts were appearing to Mulder in the final episodes of the last season.  :grin: Yes I watched them. No you dont want to.

Fact is the Smoking man also was decorated with a Helicopter missile to the face in the final episode, so the fact that he is there alive and well is another no no (as well as the fact he was a long haired, half crazy, dying hippy living in a cave at the time as it was one of the few places safe from the Aliens). And Skully was a true believer in the fact that the Aliens were invading at the end of the Mayan Calander.

Wonder how that worked out.

So if you want continuity errors there are WAY lots of them aside from the fact that the boys are still alive.

lol.  Thread synchronicity.

You all have 3 options:

1: The last 3 seasons of X-Files never happened.
2: Fuck you, this is a mix tape.
3. Fuck you, you don't deserve more X-Files.

I *so* wanted the silhouette in a labcoat right before they revealed the ARV to turn out to be Frohike.

--Dave

I have lost the thread part of this thread.  :(

Well, so far... no, no they're not.  Things are tying together ala Fringe.

Well, I mean, they're tying them together the same way X-Files episodes were lightly tied together. They have a lot more to pack into 6 episodes if they want to tie it up in a bow or have a shot at a full season/seasons. That said, Fringe was a GOOD DEAL like X-Files. Closest show to it, really.

This. I was kind of ok with the whole thing until that big long drawn out back and forth speech with Joel McHale that laid out the conspiracy and I was like

BUUHHH WUUUUUTTTT?

It sounded like it was written by goddamn Alex Jones and that is a terrible terrible thing. That it was nonsensical even by the standards of the X-Files and Chris Carter's usual shitty exposition didn't help. I kept expecting the DNA test to say that Svetlana was their daughter and cringed at the whole implication that Mulder was sleeping with her (maybe that was just me). It felt off. There were some good bits though, enough for me to keep watching. I mean, shit... it's X-Files. I watched both movies and that horrible finale, this was at least better than that last movie.

Pretty sure the conspiracy crazy talk was supposed to be taken exactly like that, crazy talk.

I think McHale's shtick was supposed to be hiding in plain sight, he was hooked into real things (like the ARV research team) and he was hiding that behind his P. T. Barnum meets Bill O'Reilly act.

It could have been worse, could have been better. Duchovny's glassy stare doesn't work nearly as well as it used to.

--Dave

Ya'll jaded and/or don't remember X-Files. This is literally as if they kept writing the 15 missing years and we just didn't get to see the footage. The show hasn't missed a beat. While there's an argument that they should've missed 3-4 beats and jumped a bit forward in a different way, I'm just not seeing these complaints.

Also, Mulder spent full story arcs explaining fucking conspiracies in the original series.

That said, I watched the whole series again last year, so it's all fresh. Maybe you all should also.

Edit: I guess, most importantly, they needed to write this in such a way that these 6 episodes were the true end to the X-files and I suspect they have 2 endings for episode 6 in the bag on the offchance they order a full season+.

I also re-watched the old series a few months ago in anticipation of the new series and I'm good with everything so far although Mulder needs to trim his eyebrows.

FWIW I'm with you on this. The tone and story sense was exactly the same as the originals.

This is X-Files all right!  :heart:

And yes, Mulder is just as Mulder as he always was. If anything, Scully's changed a bit. More accepting maybe, I dunno.

Full disclosure, I've tuned out everything after Doggett's appearance, so continuity seems just fine.

 

This is great so far.

So what I'm taking away from this thread is I should probably watch the original series sometime?  :oh_i_see:

Yes.

You don't have to watch it all. Here's a list (https://www.reddit.com/r/XFiles/comments/33zhcr/the_essential_xfiles_episode_list/) of episodes that are part of the actual story and/or really good episodes. Ofc that's just one person's opinion, there's plenty of other similar lists on the interwebs.

The "actual story" of X-Files was the worst part of the show. It was dull, repetitive and never went anywhere. In many ways it was like the Lost-era tease-with-no-payoff plotting style, before Lost.

The second episode felt really disjointed, like none of the scenes connected together well at all. Lots of "go here because plot demands it" transitions that didn't really make a whole lot of sense. LOL at Scully and Mulder just "happening" to be there when girl shows her tk powers, thus confirming the whole alien DNA thing. Felt like a lot of really lazy writing.

This is not the X-Files I remember.

I... laughed out loud at

As did I. Hell, I laughed through the whole ep.

Perfect casting with Rhys Darby.  So much fan service in this one too.

Did they reboot this series so hard that they shot it in Vancouver? I'm seeing lots of woods and fields and grass, and not so much desert.

The stoners in the cold open are reboots, too. The same actors played essentially the same roles in the original run of the series.

That's because you don't remember the X-Files.

Yeah, that's likely it as much as anything. A lot of time has passed and most of these episodes are feeling really a little too meta. It feels more like the series itself is a person who's having a mid-life existential angst crisis.

The episode with Murray from Flight of the Conchords was really funny though.

I can't get behind the whole Agent Einstein thing.  I don't mind Lauren Ambrose, but the every time they say Agent Einstein, it's like nails on a chalkboard.  What a dumb name to use for a one off quip.

The last half of this mini-series was awful. "Babylon" was one of the worst X-File episodes I can remember. Terrible way to go out as well, whole thing felt terribly rushed with everyone jumping from one odd conclusion to another.

Ohh well, I liked the first 3 episodes.

That last episode was just terrible.

Chris Carter and Ron Moore are from the same school of how to end things.

It felt like they crammed a whole (25 episode) season's worth of overall story arc and "character moments" into the 6 episodes at the cost of the individual episodes (and overall arcs were never really the strong point of x-files in my opinion).  :oh_i_see:

Jesus Christ, that was a colossal, epic failure on every level. That was an entire season's arc in one hour long episode, just randomly flailing from one ridiculous wild ass guess to the next without rhyme or reason. I didn't think Chris Carter could get worse than the first series finale yet he did.

The cabal is apparently run by Jeff Bezos and those libertarian shitheads who want to retreat to Rand Island.

New York Comic-Con Trailer for Season 11 (2018): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRdrt8nPyy8

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