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Title: Black Mirror
Post by: Shannow on December 10, 2014, 07:45:44 PM
Pardon if this is a duplicate thread

Series from the UK. Now available on Netflix, not even sure how to describe it.
Short stories from the near future? Half funny, sad , obscene. Watch it.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Hawkbit on December 10, 2014, 07:47:45 PM
Yeah, I watched the first few the other night and really liked it, if a bit bleak.

It was described as an updated Twilight Zone.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Rendakor on December 10, 2014, 09:00:05 PM
Reading Netflix reviews:
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They have quality actors and are clearly well budgeted--but the storyline was offensive, obscene and a little ridiculous.
Sign me the fuck up!

Edit: Just watched the first episode; the above review is accurate and I am entertained. For those on the fence, the premise of episode 1 is:


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Azazel on December 11, 2014, 04:55:29 AM
It's a great show. Almost all of them are written by Charlie Brooker, who you might know from Screen/News/Games wipe. Also How TV Ruined Your Life - which is a kind of revisit of themes from the earlier shows. And the annual reviews that Brooker does.

If not, I suggest that you track them down, if you like cynical/sarcastic/smart commentary on things.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: DraconianOne on December 11, 2014, 06:22:11 AM
Black Mirror is all sorts of fucked up - I love it.  For UK viewers, there's a Christmas Special  next week which starring Jon Hamm and Rafe Spall.  Black Mirror: White Christmas (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDFcTmdQqIc)

Brooker also wrote and directed a short series called "Dead Set" which is a satire of the Big Brother show. The premise is that the contestants in the Big Brother house are the only survivors of a zombie apocalypse. I thought it was really well done.

Dead Set Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQjq639WPiU)



Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Signe on December 11, 2014, 10:48:41 AM
I love this show.  I started watching it right after I finished Utopia.  OMG, I think I might turn weird!  The episode "Fifteen Million Merits" was brilliant and made me very uncomfortable.  For some reason many of the stories made me feel like I did when I read Lanark: A Life In Four Books, which is probably my favourite ever.  I love when stories make me feel uncomfortable.  I'm sure I'm not the only person who likes that feeling... right?  Please say yes.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: DraconianOne on December 11, 2014, 11:20:41 AM
I love this show.  I started watching it right after I finished Utopia.  OMG, I think I might turn weird!  The episode "Fifteen Million Merits" was brilliant and made me very uncomfortable.  For some reason many of the stories made me feel like I did when I read Lanark: A Life In Four Books, which is probably my favourite ever.  I love when stories make me feel uncomfortable.  I'm sure I'm not the only person who likes that feeling... right?  Please say yes.

Say yes, you are the only person who likes that feeling or yes, there are others like you out there?  :grin:


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Pennilenko on December 11, 2014, 03:44:16 PM
Well, being a person who also likes that feeling, I would say there are more people like that out there. However, there is nobody quite like Signe.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Signe on December 11, 2014, 10:33:28 PM
However, there is nobody quite like Signe.

Except for me.  And you, too.  Well, I mean for you.  You know.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Surlyboi on December 11, 2014, 11:33:31 PM
This is really good. And I'll second the recommendation of Dead Set too.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Azazel on December 16, 2014, 05:34:42 AM
Yep. Dead Set is all kinds of fucked up awesome.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Ironwood on December 16, 2014, 06:38:19 AM
TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Ruvaldt on December 16, 2014, 11:50:59 PM
Just started watching this.

Fifteen Million Merits was stunningly good.  Really magnificent.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Pennilenko on December 17, 2014, 04:50:50 PM
Fifteen Million Merits was stunningly good.  Really magnificent.
Yeah, that one was my favorite so far.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Threash on December 23, 2014, 09:11:16 PM
So depressing though.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Azazel on December 28, 2014, 04:34:08 AM
They're all pretty bleak. Kind of the point in a way.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Threash on December 30, 2014, 12:08:00 PM
At the end of "the entire history of you" we are supposed to assume  right?


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Ironwood on December 30, 2014, 01:28:46 PM
Yes.

Because that's more bleak and depressing.

It's like some of you don't get Brooker.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: dd0029 on December 30, 2014, 04:11:55 PM
Because that's more bleak and depressing.

I didn't really like the second episode of the second series, but that's a more than apt description for things at the end.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Rendakor on December 31, 2014, 12:39:29 PM
White Bear? I didn't really care for that one either.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Ironwood on December 31, 2014, 04:23:04 PM
Bear in mind that most of these are making points about UK Culture.

White Bear resonated over here like you wouldn't fucking believe....


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Rishathra on January 02, 2015, 08:46:43 AM
Would you mind elaborating on that?  I'm genuinely curious.  I don't recall anything about that episode that was particularly UK'ey.  At least, not in a way that a Yank would have trouble relating to.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Xanthippe on January 03, 2015, 02:09:45 PM
Yes, please elaborate.

We just discovered this series on Netflix. Spouse loved Fifteen Million Merits, I loved the Entire History of You.

"Loved" isn't quite the adjective. Found fascinating. Bleak and wow, wtf.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Ironwood on January 03, 2015, 05:27:27 PM
Well, long story short (because I hate paragraphs), Brooker has views about the pedo menace as a matter of public record due to his work with Brass Eye, particularly the media overreaction.  He also has had some things to say about the Bulger stuff, which was thrown into further sharp relief over here when the anniversary of the killers came out and one of them was found to be 'back in the public' and so the media dragged it all out over and over again and, frankly, it was just a shitshow.  Much like the episode tried to portray.

See, over there, the two who did the crime in this Black Mirror episode would probably just get shot and that'd be the end of it.  But not us Brits.  Oh No.  We have to make it a thing.  A big thing.  A big recurring thing that's actually fairly ludicrous because we (lack the spine/are civilised) delete as appropriate to actually do something PERMENANT about it.

Which is pretty much the sum up of the episode here.  After all, it wasn't really HER that was getting punished all the time.  She was only EVER getting punished ONCE because she couldn't remember it.  So, what the 'public' was doing was ENTIRELY for the benefit of the public.  It was just fucking ridicule and shame and a public display, almost like a goddamn bleak Disney theme park because he sees us as unable to do anything else.

It was a witch burning and a media shitshow all caught on the latest fucking smart phones.  It was Camera Justice, which is a particularly hot topic over here, since, er, we don't really have any other type....

Anyway.  Some of that.  More of the other.  I'm a bit pished, so typing's hard, but I'll gladly expound when you're over my house and I'm beating you to death with a camera phone.  Or summat.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Signe on January 03, 2015, 09:24:55 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/qaYZhFS.jpg)


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Ironwood on January 04, 2015, 05:19:36 AM
Yeah;  "Challenge Myra."

Also, Fred and Rosie West.

Actually, the list is endless.



Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: dd0029 on January 04, 2015, 10:41:24 AM
Well, long story short (because I hate paragraphs), Brooker has views about the pedo menace as a matter of public record due to his work with Brass Eye, particularly the media overreaction.  He also has had some things to say about the Bulger stuff, which was thrown into further sharp relief over here when the anniversary of the killers came out and one of them was found to be 'back in the public' and so the media dragged it all out over and over again and, frankly, it was just a shitshow.  Much like the episode tried to portray.

See, over there, the two who did the crime in this Black Mirror episode would probably just get shot and that'd be the end of it.  But not us Brits.  Oh No.  We have to make it a thing.  A big thing.  A big recurring thing that's actually fairly ludicrous because we (lack the spine/are civilised) delete as appropriate to actually do something PERMENANT about it.

Which is pretty much the sum up of the episode here.  After all, it wasn't really HER that was getting punished all the time.  She was only EVER getting punished ONCE because she couldn't remember it.  So, what the 'public' was doing was ENTIRELY for the benefit of the public.  It was just fucking ridicule and shame and a public display, almost like a goddamn bleak Disney theme park because he sees us as unable to do anything else.

It was a witch burning and a media shitshow all caught on the latest fucking smart phones.  It was Camera Justice, which is a particularly hot topic over here, since, er, we don't really have any other type....

Anyway.  Some of that.  More of the other.  I'm a bit pished, so typing's hard, but I'll gladly expound when you're over my house and I'm beating you to death with a camera phone.  Or summat.


That gives the episode a whole lot more context. Thanks. At the end, I could see something weird like that happening here, but it would be for an entirely different more prosaic and less interesting reason.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Xanthippe on January 04, 2015, 01:56:56 PM
Well, that was a harrowing trip down Google lane. I was unaware of these things - and how differently they are handled in the UK. Yikes.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Azazel on January 04, 2015, 08:17:46 PM
Hadn't heard of Brass Eye. I'll track it down.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Ironwood on January 05, 2015, 04:12:14 AM
 :ye_gods:

Brass Eye is fantastic.

Edit :  Actually, I should say 'Was'.  You really ought to take a gander.  Or possibly a goose.



Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: DraconianOne on January 05, 2015, 04:30:57 AM
Brass Eye is fantastic.

Edit :  Actually, I should say 'Was'.  You really ought to take a gander.  Or possibly a goose.

Seconded. Brass Eye is well worth your time. Prior to that, "The Day Today" which wasn't quite as controversial in content but as a satire on contemporary global news shows, was fantastic (which Brooker wasn't involved in iirc but was the brain child of Chris Morris who works with Brooker a lot).


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Azazel on January 05, 2015, 05:25:33 AM
I've, erm, "found" it. Will watch it in the next few days. I'll probably watch some Big Fat Quizzes first to wash the taste of Mel B out of my eyes.

Speaking of Brooker, for the non-UK people, check out A Touch of Cloth as well. My boss gavce me a copy of it, and while I haven't watched that either yet, it's Brooker and as such near the top of my list.

Anyone else find 2014 Wipe a little disappointing? The song was awful, but aside from that it just seemed a little less than usual.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Ironwood on January 05, 2015, 05:35:15 AM
ATOC is hilarious.  British Police Squad.

Again, some things may get lost in translation, especially the Todd Carty stuff.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: 01101010 on January 25, 2015, 05:09:09 PM
Decided to take a leap and watch a few episodes. First one really turned me off with some of the overreaching... but the underlying currents stuck with me. 2nd episode was pretty poignant as well as the third. I like the show well enough to keep going though.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: jgsugden on January 25, 2015, 05:59:05 PM
I've seen everything available on Netflix and found them to be entertaining.  The one that stuck with me most was '"Be Right Back," but "The Entire History of You" is the one that seems to be the most practical warning tale.  People do enough idiotic shit that gets recorded on technology they could avoid - when it becomes harder to turn off...


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: jgsugden on September 08, 2015, 08:52:41 PM
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-09-07/charlie-brookers-black-mirror-to-become-a-netflix-show (http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-09-07/charlie-brookers-black-mirror-to-become-a-netflix-show) Good news.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Signe on September 09, 2015, 09:00:17 AM
Hooray!


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Threash on October 21, 2016, 08:46:41 PM
And the new season just dropped, first episode was great.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: MediumHigh on October 23, 2016, 08:21:46 AM
And the new season just dropped, first episode was great.

I wish they stuck the landing instead of giving us "we're all happy people past societies bullshit" ending.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Samwise on October 23, 2016, 11:28:05 AM
I liked it, because ten minutes into the episode I was thinking "okay so what happens if you just say fuck it to all of this?" and they eventually answered that question for me.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: MahrinSkel on October 23, 2016, 02:18:06 PM
Brief note for anyone starting the series: Power past the first episode of the first season, it is easily the weakest. Doesn't translate from British to American. It gets a lot better later.

--Dave


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Threash on October 23, 2016, 07:59:25 PM
Jesus fucking christ, S3E3.  I need a brain scrub.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Threash on October 25, 2016, 06:14:12 PM
San Junipero is one of the best love stories ever told.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Viin on October 25, 2016, 10:13:52 PM
AMA on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/59cppq/were_charlie_brooker_and_annabel_jones_the/). I haven't seen this series, but the AMA has me interested.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Shannow on October 26, 2016, 09:03:57 AM
Brief note for anyone starting the series: Power past the first episode of the first season, it is easily the weakest. Doesn't translate from British to American. It gets a lot better later.

--Dave

Don't skip it though. I always enjoy seeing new viewers reactions to what has to be one of the most ridicolous premises I've ever seen put on a tv screen.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Rendakor on October 27, 2016, 08:00:17 PM
Yea, I thought the first episode was great.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: jgsugden on October 28, 2016, 12:55:58 AM
The first two episodes of season 3 are two of the three worst of the series, but I would not avoid them. However, there is nothing wrong with watching 3.3 before them.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Ironwood on November 10, 2016, 03:52:18 PM
Watching 3.5

Given the ... ahem ... recently political upheaval, it's not much fun.



Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: jgsugden on November 10, 2016, 04:30:01 PM
My three favorite episodes of the series:

1.) "Be Right Back" - Atwell was out of the world here.  Not the most realistic of these tales, but she gut punched me in this one.
2.) "The Entire History of You" - The most realistic cautionary tale. 
3.) "Shut Up and Dance" - I enjoyed the story, despite the clichés.

"San Junipero" could have been there, but the acting was just weak in some places.  I didn't buy the attachment either of the main characters had to each other.  I also didn't like the unearned twist.

I don't think I've seen White Christmas, yet, but they're all great. 


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: luckton on June 18, 2017, 08:29:22 AM
Netflix Submits Episodes as Movies in Sneaky Emmys Strategy

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/06/black-mirror-netflix-category-tv-movie-emmy-emmys-1201842522/

I actually hope this works for them. Most episodes are 10x better than most feature length films.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Slayerik on June 29, 2017, 10:50:09 AM
Just crushed this show in like a day. Really enjoyed it. I like that I'm still thinking about it, just enough mindfuck for me!


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: luckton on July 14, 2017, 02:53:57 AM
Netflix Submits Episodes as Movies in Sneaky Emmys Strategy

http://www.indiewire.com/2017/06/black-mirror-netflix-category-tv-movie-emmy-emmys-1201842522/

I actually hope this works for them. Most episodes are 10x better than most feature length films.

Follow-up: it worked! San Junipero picked up two noms, one for creator Charlie Brooker, for Outstanding Writing for a Limited Series, Movie or Dramatic Special. The other for Outstanding TV Movie!


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: luckton on November 25, 2017, 08:02:58 PM
PREPARE FOR MIND FUCK SEASON 4!  :drill: :drill: :drill:

https://youtu.be/yef_HfQoBd8


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Threash on November 27, 2017, 11:13:21 AM
With zero context that is still terrifying.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: luckton on November 28, 2017, 09:12:58 PM
Casual dropping of "I'm 2000 years old..."  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: luckton on November 29, 2017, 06:50:12 PM
THE SEASON 4 MIND FUCKERY TEASING CONTINUES IN "ROLLO HAYENS' BLACK MUSEUM"

https://youtu.be/CV0J3Bq3BIc

 :why_so_serious: :why_so_serious: :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: jgsugden on December 06, 2017, 02:04:12 PM
6 More episodes/mini movies: Friday, Dec. 29.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: luckton on December 07, 2017, 05:22:26 AM
https://youtu.be/5ELQ6u_5YYM

FUCKING BE THERE!

Quote from: Accolade Hype
"At least we're going to be entertained while the world's going to hell."

 :why_so_serious: :why_so_serious: :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Ironwood on December 29, 2017, 03:38:29 AM
Well, this first episode got dark after 25 mins.  You've got to admire the restraint.



Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Goldenmean on December 29, 2017, 01:56:38 PM
I liked the subtle Neuromancer nod in that first episode (when he's booting up, the OS is listed as Ono-Sendai)

Pretty good season thus far. Two left to go.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Ironwood on December 29, 2017, 03:10:30 PM
Wasn't a fan of Arkangel. It had too little to say.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Spiff on December 30, 2017, 01:47:15 AM
Arkangel seemed afraid to really explore the tech, I mean you implant that kind of tech into hundreds if not thousands of people and
Starfleet was a lot of fun, but  That might be the most unbelievable thing Black Mirror's ever done. Felt like a cop out honestly.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Samwise on December 30, 2017, 01:58:13 PM
My biggest problem with Spacefleet was


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Ironwood on December 30, 2017, 02:53:18 PM
Hang the DJ was great.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: MediumHigh on December 30, 2017, 03:52:28 PM
Arkangel

I keep thinking "that BITCH" the entire time and i'm only 20 minutes through.

 Spacefleet



Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Spiff on January 01, 2018, 07:56:03 AM
They saved the best for last; The black museum was a hoot (Rolo Haynes  :heart:), loved all the little nods to previous episodes.
Overall a very mixed season, "had too little to say" applies to half of it, but Hang the dj and Black museum where on par with some of Brooker's best.
Metalhead though left me wondering why it's even a Black Mirror episode.

Oddly the episodes with the happy (-ish) endings are the ones I enjoyed most, coincidence or is Charlie Brooker going soft? (or am I?)


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Samwise on January 02, 2018, 06:37:15 PM
Looking forward to Black Museum then; only one I've got left.  I think Hang the DJ was my favorite so far and it was also IMO the most Black-Mirror-ish in that I was kind of craning forward in my seat the whole time wanting to see more of the world and figure out what was behind the curtain.

I did really enjoy Metalhead as a piece of straight up survival horror, though.  It seems like in general this season has been about changing up the formula and dabbling in other genres.


Title: Re: Black Mirror
Post by: Shannow on January 04, 2018, 04:46:12 PM
Using a snow day to binge watch this. First episides I've watched since Season 1. Enjoyed Black Museum thoroughly. Others were solid to good.