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Title: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 14, 2014, 01:59:48 PM So a huge [3 hundred an something au across] wormhole system called Thera with stations and special rules,alongside another hundred or so of new special wormholes, removal of clone costs and skill loss on clone destruction [implants still die], a beta phase of using the wsad keys for manual control, a new ship designed for carrying fitted ships, T3 destroyers , new blackbird model along with the past recent changes including new industrial content, all t1 & t2 combat drones being useful now [not just hobs and warriros anymore etc], overview sharing, new notification system and the all important unlimited skill queue.
Maybe CCP are edging towards redeeming themselves after the Incarna debacle. Looking forward to the sov changes which hopefully will be some time next year. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on November 14, 2014, 02:03:46 PM I heard that they majorly reduced the distance that capital ships can jump, too, in an attempt to reduce certain alliances' ability to control exorbitant amounts of space.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on November 15, 2014, 05:37:51 AM They are making a lot of changes, and pushing them out monthly, that's for sure.
I don't think they care about redeeming themselves. That's a player point of view that they've done something wrong and have to redeem for it; I imagine that they view themselves as the best dev team in the world, and any changes they make are just more awesomeness, on top of the complete awesomeness of the game thus far. They're changing the game because it's dated and they need something new, to keep player interest. They've decided not to do EVE 2.0 as a separate game; they're taking the current game and changing it into its sequel. I'm guessing that they want the current player base transitioned to EVE 2.0 as is, without the major land grab and rush that opening a new server would cause. Though, I wouldn't make the assumption that players will get to keep everything they have; if this is a beta period and a transition to a new EVE, then release day may have a surprise wallet/assets reduction across the board, to curb inflation or "reset the economy" or whatever. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on November 15, 2014, 05:46:01 AM No, the problem is that if they actually made an Eve 2.0 their older players would lose all their skills and have to start from scratch again. That would create the kind of nerd screaming that has not been witnessed since NGE. I mean you have a game where you can splat the majority of players on e on one and is a griefing dream. And you want to suddenly have people on a level playing field again? PEOPLE ARE PAYING YOU GOOD MONEY FOR THE ABILITY TO GRIEF DAMMIT!!
That's one of the big things for people like me who have given away their old account. I can count out in my head the months of shit ("Ooh capacitor capacity! Yum!") skills I would have to do and frankly its not worth it. And its also what keeps long time players playing. I'll be honest its why I kept playing for a long while. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 15, 2014, 11:52:20 AM I heard that they majorly reduced the distance that capital ships can jump, too, in an attempt to reduce certain alliances' ability to control exorbitant amounts of space. Yes and they added jump fatigue too, jump freighters are not as affected by the jump distance changes, jump fatigue accumulates which means no instant galaxy jump, jump bridges also create jump fatigue. All capitals can use stargates now too. I also forgot to mention he warp speed changes which happened recently [in Kronos?], which means that warp speed actually matters, so interceptors can outrun a cruiser to catch it for example. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on November 15, 2014, 03:15:02 PM I started back playing recently, a lot of my contentions have been fixed. I really like where they've taken the game, they're in the midst of a GUI overhaul too. I'm somewhat enjoying the experience again.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Viin on November 15, 2014, 07:45:44 PM I peeked at the UI changes post, looked at the screenshot shown and said 'thats it? new icons and translucent windows?'. Am I missing something?
(Post here (http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/a-new-look-for-eves-ui-feedback-needed)) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on November 15, 2014, 09:53:00 PM What was the drone changes?
It looks like the big 2-3 have contracted a bit, and left some room open in between them for some smaller groups, but the state of the galaxy isn't changing, and there isn't any big wars that are actually going to happen. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on November 16, 2014, 05:01:54 AM I peeked at the UI changes post, looked at the screenshot shown and said 'thats it? new icons and translucent windows?'. Am I missing something? (Post here (http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/a-new-look-for-eves-ui-feedback-needed)) Actually thats only the visual overhaul which will be the icing, they've gradually been making other changes. Things like being able to import/export fits to EFT, the import ability is fairly recent. The moon, directional and system scanner can now be seperated. You can now select jump to gate which means you automatically jump through when you land. Loads of small tweaks which on their own don't sound much I admit but there's a quite a lot of little things you'll notice, if you haven't played in a while. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on November 16, 2014, 05:08:09 AM What was the drone changes? They rebalanced tracking, speed and damage mod so the Amarr and Caldari drones might see more light of day. Sentries got a tracking nerf. If you haven't played in a while, there's now faction drones and Geckos - 50m3 Heavy drones that cost about 30m each. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Polysorbate80 on November 16, 2014, 07:53:31 AM I got back in on the last 10-day reactivation, and enjoyed it enough to blow some ISK on plex for my two-character corp. I don't know that I can keep from getting bored again before the December release, but it's possible.
A lot of little quality-of-life changes, and some more coming. I did have to look at and change loadouts on most of my ships; a lot of them have been tweaked since I last played (several years at this point). I especially like that my golem kills and loots shit like a champ without having to come back with a second ship for cleanup, and my blockade runner can now make the 10-jump run to Jita and back in just a few minutes and sell all that shit without clicking on every goddamn item individually. I hope they do give in to their stated desire to eventually allow capitals into hi-sec--my hangar-queen chimera in Hysera might actually see some more use. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 16, 2014, 10:16:17 AM Geckos - 50m3 Heavy drones that cost about 30m each. To reiterate on the geckos, they were a redeemable item for the 11 years that eve has been around. At the moment ishtars are still a staple, not sure how much of a staple they are however. I still hope that CCP will improve exploration as I used to rake in isk but now I am space poor :( Maybe the sleeper data sites in k-space will see me become rich. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on November 16, 2014, 12:53:12 PM Edit: sorry misunderstood previous post.
Carry on :grin: Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Kitsune on November 16, 2014, 09:08:15 PM Them killing jump travel guaranteed that my character's not logging back in again. My carrier's in the ass end of fuck all nowhereville, and their master plan is to make it impossible for me to get it out of nullsec without a ton of obnoxious delayed jumps? No thanks.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on November 16, 2014, 10:58:53 PM What's the state of Goonswarm Federation and Bat Country? I see vague mentions of a newbee drive on SA, but nothing concrete.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 16, 2014, 11:13:52 PM Them killing jump travel guaranteed that my character's not logging back in again. My carrier's in the ass end of fuck all nowhereville, and their master plan is to make it impossible for me to get it out of nullsec without a ton of obnoxious delayed jumps? No thanks. Jump it through the gates ^-^ If you can afford a cyno alt, you can afford a scout What's the state of Goonswarm Federation and Bat Country? I see vague mentions of a newbee drive on SA, but nothing concrete. Well Goonswarm Federation have voluntarily shrunk their territory to accomodate the jump changes, and have filled it with various allies to act as a shield not sure about Bat County. Onyx warp aniamtion btw coming along nicely (http://i.imgur.com/IxftbAt.gif) Astarte with image based rendering followed by comparison (http://i.imgur.com/FGmh1CE.jpg) (http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66669/1/PBR_AMARR_NL.gif) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 17, 2014, 02:17:14 PM Well Goonswarm Federation have voluntarily shrunk their territory to accomodate the jump changes, and have filled it with various allies to act as a shield not sure about Bat County. Talk about timing, N3 have just invaded Fountain where Fatal Ascension were holding up ^-^ Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on November 17, 2014, 07:54:05 PM Talk about timing, N3 have just invaded Fountain where Fatal Ascension were holding up ^-^ The Mittani Reacts to news NCdot & company are invading Fountain (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1lWEf2rUOk&feature=youtu.be) with special guest Endie! Though I don't know which officer is playing his part in this "Hitler reacts" video. I think he's the one with the moustache. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Draegan on November 18, 2014, 06:41:57 AM People are still doing that Hitler thing? Is that considered funny still?
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on November 18, 2014, 07:26:03 PM It might be more funny in a month or so - The Mittani declares WAR (http://www.themittani.com/news/gsf-ceo-update-vengeance-ours) on Venal and declares that Fountain will be held. Though I think everyone on all sides would prefer to see VFK by May than shooting towers in Venal (Which probably won't be defended) and then jump cloaning down to Y-2An0 the next night. I wouldn't think both could be done at the same time.
Also, corps are being marked with the red pen - I hope Bat Country has enough people not off in Empire space to be counted. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 18, 2014, 08:24:40 PM The Bowhead ship [fitted?] transporter
(http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66669/1/BowheadN.png) The Confessor, T3 destroyer (http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66669/1/Confessor.jpg) Blackbird & variants redesign (http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66669/1/BlackbirdRedesign.jpg) Dreadnought skins (http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66669/1/Sarum.jpg) Roid belt visual updates (http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66669/1/AsteroidBeltN.png) Other stuff like sleeper scouts in k-space, trial account names being freed up, a new opt-in star map that no-one has seen yet, polarized weapons and the incursus and its variants redesign [which is something I DON'T like the look of atm], improvements to multisell among a few other things that will come to rhea. Also in the near future we will be able to see the health of our drones IN THE DRONEBAY! Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Draegan on November 19, 2014, 02:17:21 PM Is the UI still a spreadsheet?
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 19, 2014, 04:53:47 PM Is the UI still a spreadsheet? We got tactical smart spreadsheets, phase-plasma spreadsheets, we got sonic spreadsheets, electronic ball-breaking spreadsheets! Unless you mean spread sheeeeeet as you dampen a load of pirate onerios :drill: Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on November 19, 2014, 06:34:34 PM They're going for a retro look, like old fighter jet radar screens, for the UI. It's still spreadsheets, as they haven't said anything about making the client not-thin. It's just a UI reskin + some convenience improvements.
In their blog they talk about making the UI be less like an operating system, but to me it looks like they're just abandoning the Windows XP taskbar style in favor of the Windows 8 tile world, except monochrome CRT tile world. (http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66657/1/5.png) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 21, 2014, 04:55:40 PM New eve trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfFnTt2UT0
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: KallDrexx on November 21, 2014, 07:11:49 PM That was a pretty epic trailer
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on November 22, 2014, 03:32:43 AM No Boat or barking dog giving orders. 1/10.
Seems to be reaching out to old players, not new ones. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Draegan on November 22, 2014, 07:48:36 AM I haven't tried eve since I met my wife 5?years ago. I want to play that game in the trailer but I could never seen before m to find the download link to that version of eve.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Morat20 on November 22, 2014, 10:03:57 AM No Boat or barking dog giving orders. 1/10. Smart move. Much lower hanging fruit, and quite a large number of potential resubs. Seems to be reaching out to old players, not new ones. trying to get new players into an older game isn't that cost effective compared to trying to get previous players to rejoin. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on November 22, 2014, 06:42:31 PM I want to play that game in the trailer but I could never seem before to find the download link to that version of eve. Yeah, you can find that game if you're in a good corp that's part of a good alliance, and even then it's usually a few hours of waiting / prepping, followed by a few minutes of fun, followed by several days of drudgery and work before you can repeat. Credit to the F13 group, though, they've made available the "good corp and good alliance" part for years, and that's the hardest bit. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on November 22, 2014, 06:53:37 PM Yeah, problem is that if I wanted to join Eve now without my old character its not epicness. Its "ok sit around for months to a year before you can fly anything on that video to 'acceptable' standard". AND IF I could get into a decent corp/alliance. Otherwise I know I could get the ACTUAL eve experience would be taking a semi automatic to my nuts.
Not gonna lie though that trailer is fucking epic and it really makes me want to tell my brain to go to hell just on the off chance I'm wrong. Which I'm not. *sob* And sadly the F13 corp is not an option for me. The second some goon recognized my voice they would be 6 feet up my ass for fun. Pass. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Malakili on November 22, 2014, 07:09:48 PM That's the kind of thing that makes it great. Lovely video.
Unfortunately don't have the time to play and have it actually be like that anymore. It's one of those games where you sort of wish you could just live in that world. But living in another world has um, bad consequences in this one. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Abalieno on November 23, 2014, 09:59:33 AM Any of you know how/when a noob can join the Faction Warfare thing and how it works?
I read a bit but nothing that gives a clear direction. I know you can join at any time, but does it need something to prepare for it? Equipment? Where do I go? What should I do? Who buys me new ships when mine blow up? Otherwise, what are the noob alternative paths? I basically only know mining and running very boring agent missions. When does other stuff happen like science, research probes, complexes and so on? Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on November 24, 2014, 04:34:17 AM Um, my info is old, but, you have two ways of joining: join a player corporation that is itself registered for faction warfare (this will put you in the warfare immediately), or do some missions to get a little bit of standing (0.6?) and join solo, which will put you in the militia NPC corp. associated with whichever empire, and open up the faction warfare missions.
As far as preparing for it, it's full on PVP, you will have red targets on your overview and can shoot each other at any time. YOU are the one who buys you ships when you get destroyed. The game is not really for solo play, so as a completely poor newbie you may be better off joining a player corporation that does FW, because it will give you teammates to back you up during the fights, as well as perhaps a ship replacement program. The hardest part in this game is finding a good corp. In any case, the other stuff happens when you've trained the skills for it and go do it. The grind for ISK is what sucks about the game, and my recommendation is to delay it a little bit by buying a PLEX with real cash and converting it into ISK (you claim the plex at Jita and sell it on the market). Should set you up with plenty of ships for FW for quite some time (you use frigates to start with, and they are cheap). Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on November 25, 2014, 02:55:02 AM And sadly the F13 corp is not an option for me. The second some goon recognized my voice they would be 6 feet up my ass for fun. Pass. Goonswarm has changed. You'd be fine, today. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on November 25, 2014, 04:43:51 AM And sadly the F13 corp is not an option for me. The second some goon recognized my voice they would be 6 feet up my ass for fun. Pass. Didn't everyone love your voice? It was the posting that was the problem ;) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on November 26, 2014, 06:04:32 AM Well, I'm gonna DL the Client and see about getting a 14 day trial in. A little bored with GW2 ata mo and it would be nice to jump around some systems again even if I dont perminently resub. If F13 wants me give me a PM or stuff.
*edit* Hmm, the doenload keeps stalling out. Looks like the copy of the client the eve website has is Corrupt and keeps stoping. ENDIE! SMASH! Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on November 26, 2014, 08:08:58 AM I just joined up with a srs bzns Merc corp who have a Bhaalgoorn doctrine :woot: I think I'm going to like it there. Now to figure out how to fund 2 billion losses :headscratch:
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on November 26, 2014, 08:40:29 AM Always fly Vindicators in Bhaalgorn fleets. Neuting is for pussies.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on November 26, 2014, 08:49:57 AM If I'm going to fly a 2b ship I would rather not be guaranteed primary, that and I don't have Gallente BS trained.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on November 26, 2014, 09:17:48 AM For serious business fleets flying tight, flashy doctrines with terrifying ability we have European Goonion under Mister Vee: very possibly the most effective force in nullsec. They fliy Nightmare fleet though, not Bhaalgorns.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on November 26, 2014, 09:22:23 AM Does Baltec still fly a Megathron on those ops?
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on November 26, 2014, 09:23:52 AM I always found there is no BS like Gallante BS.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on November 26, 2014, 09:26:44 AM Does Baltec still fly a Megathron on those ops? On Baltec fleets he flies a navy mega. Come to that in EG fleets he also flies a navy mega. It tends to be watchlisted on EG fleets since he is the official flagship, but he did lose one a month ago when he forgot to broadcast. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 26, 2014, 10:02:50 AM *edit* Hmm, the doenload keeps stalling out. Looks like the copy of the client the eve website has is Corrupt and keeps stoping. ENDIE! SMASH! Theres a torrent, this might be it - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=338967 Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on November 26, 2014, 10:09:15 AM Thanks. Ill try that.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 26, 2014, 10:33:20 AM Seems CCP have stomped on some aspects of ISBoxer meaning a few people are selling their beloved minions in the Character Bazarr, some lore about Sansha and Sleepers in Oasa also.
Confessor stats and mode animations [from sisi] (http://i.imgur.com/vBtinkH.jpg) (http://giant.gfycat.com/SociableGraveEquine.gif) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on November 27, 2014, 05:19:07 AM Nice hotlinking of a 55mb animated gif there :ye_gods:
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on November 27, 2014, 04:38:50 PM reddit.com/eve is aflame after a SMA Titan pilot was exacuated after making a mistake (or passing fleet info to the enemy) on comms.
Lots of back and forth, but it's given a new image of Goonfleet to the forum now being called by some commentators as the New Kugu. With luck, we might get a new Great War out of it, though it's more Dhrama then fire. It's a pity the guy who may have wanted out of SMA didn't disband the CFC first- it would have given us another Great War perhaps. (Check out the small text at the bottom too) (http://i.imgur.com/Gu54jfW.jpg) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on November 27, 2014, 04:55:28 PM Goddammit. I just bought the EVE: The Second Decade Collector's Edition (http://www.amazon.com/EVE-The-Second-Decade-Collectors-Edition/dp/B00CIGV846). For the USB hub Rifter. JUST that. And the CD. And the book. Not the account. No no no, I'm not coming back. Not today. Not yet. But if TRI TRI AGAIN, NCneversupportouralliesDOT and BLwecanbebought get their act together, and we see the CFC fighting a full on war on 3 fronts...maybe.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on November 27, 2014, 11:56:13 PM SA is reporting (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3609703&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=902#post438245070) (reddit won't load for me) that :
Quote (7:27:33 PM) directorbot: JUSTICE FOR RAYONAR: When we fuck up, we make it good. Within this last hour a new defector has confirmed that Rayonar was, in fact, innocent. While the evidence we had two days ago made him appear unassailably guilty, this new information has completely exonerated him. We have apologized to him as well as SMA leadership and are transferring him a new Avatar, and welcome him back with open arms. We don't like ratfucking one of our own based on bad intel. The metagame is ugly and shit happens; in this case we could have tried to be ~prideful~ and act like he was guilty, cover it over, and hope it went away. But he's an innocent man, a loyal fleet commander, and a good dude, and it's on us to make things right - so: formal apologies, his position restored, and making him whole with a new Titan - even after I just wrote a war update insisting that we'd be proven right, we've now been proven wrong, and it's best to own up cleanly. The real story of the burn was that one of our command-level agents heard a BL leader say "shit, one of our agents burned himself on comms" the moment after Rayonar keyed up mistakenly from his Logi. This had nothing to do with IP data, Digi hiding in bushes, or the like. We now know that there was another BL agent online at the time and that the BL leader mistakenly thought that agent had burned himself when Rayonar keyed up, and now we have the evidence to prove this theory. *** This was a broadcast from the_mittani to all-all at 2014-11-28 03:27:31.143322 EVE, replies are not monitored *** Comedy Gold Jerry. Comedy Gold. With champagne comedy of this level, I really want to come back to be there to witness things like that. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on November 28, 2014, 05:43:40 AM OOOOOkaaaayyyyy....
I Logged on trial in as fresh new Amarr newb yesterday to sample the joy of the true Newb experiance. Pluses - The new tutorial is fantastic. And the carreer agents are even better. I haven't even completed them yet and I have 2 and a a half million in the bank and several ships in the hanger. That mining frig is fantastic. Minuses - Ok CCP. WHAT THE EVERLOVING FUCK. I get lots of skillbooks I cant use because I dont have skills. I get a "civilian salvager." Cool. Bot I try and get a proper salvager? Sorry I cant learn salvaging because I don't have X and Y skill. I cant use the modules I have picked up because I dont have more skills. I cant use this ship. I can't I can't I CAN'T. I listened to this player screaming that he had invested 4 days on exploration skills and then find that every exploration site in High sec is utter shit and is swarmed by everyone else, and the only decent sites are in low sec. Have any of the designers actually started up a game as a newb in forever? It's a total cockblock. I've been given a load of money but that 2 and a half million is tempered by the fact that I have spend well over a mill on skillbooks myself, and even then I still wouldn't be able to use the stuff I'm picking up. "Cool armour plating! Lets use it!! Whats hull upgrades 1? Yey an afterburner 1! Oh great I have to get the afterburner skill now... Yey named Shield Booster!! Sweet! What the fuck, shield upgrades???? AAARGH!!!" In Guild wars 2 and other MMOs you are able to use the loot you get from mobs. Probably not very well, but at least you are not given a wet fish in the face when you get stuff. This is day one of your trial, the days you are supposed to hook your new player so he will pay up his $15 a month, and its an experience of total frustration. And that's coming from a guy that has played before so I KNOW that I need to get a Drone skillbook etc. A true newb would just say fuck this. Eg. "I have to wait 8 hours so I can get Amarr frig 3 so I can try out a Destroyer? FUCK THAT!!" Really CCP, you really hate fucking newbs. Do you have any idea about psychology? The only thing you know how to do is hang onto vets. Sort of. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on November 28, 2014, 08:17:28 AM Reddit thread on DRAMA!!!
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2nmu5a/ivoryrayonar_will_be_fully_restored_and_titan/ Ok. I'm sorry, but that thread is pretty much full of retards. My spock eyebrow was buried in the back of my neck reading most of that shit. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 28, 2014, 01:27:54 PM I listened to this player screaming that he had invested 4 days on exploration skills and then find that every exploration site in High sec is utter shit and is swarmed by everyone else, and the only decent sites are in low sec. I do exploration a lot, and it has certainly had the isk making potential of it reduced [I blame eve: odyssey that allowed very tom, dick and harry to do it]. Actually the best sites are in null-sec camped by stealth bombers and astero[es?], though its easy enough to get to a system [wormholes are your friend] with no-one around [sweet, sweet Intact Armor Plates]. Relic sites good [faction pos modules!], data sites baaad [cept for datacores], combat sites betterer, gas sites, why the hell are their so many gas sites??? I generally just enjoy exploration, leaving bits of carbon in unfinished data sites for the local entity to find. To be fair to CCP, they have talked about making the New Player Experience better recently, some of the CSM in their last summit had a chat to them about it I believe [in the summit minutes somewhere]. Wouldn't be surprised if the NPE got updated sometime in the first quarter of next year. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on November 28, 2014, 03:27:00 PM Minuses - Ok CCP. WHAT THE EVERLOVING FUCK. I get lots of skillbooks I cant use because I dont have skills. I know you know it's skill intensive in the beginning. My reaction has been either "ok I have to buy some skill books as prerequisites to make these work" or "guess I'll sell these or destroy them." I don't know why, I've never had the WTF!1!1 reaction; the skillbooks are gifts, use them or toss them. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on November 28, 2014, 06:44:11 PM You'll be thankful for the infinite skill queue once you have all the basics injected.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Pennilenko on November 28, 2014, 06:46:11 PM I can't even imagine starting new, I never sold my characters and I still would feel way behind if I ever came back.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on November 28, 2014, 07:44:11 PM I think it used to take approx. 1 year to get a couple races' T1 ships (frigate to battleship) with T2 weapons and support skills, 1 more year for T2 ship lines, and 1 more year for the skills to fly a carrier, dread, or whatnot.
But, they've reduced a lot of the prerequisites from 5 to 4, so now it's probably 2 years total. Of course, despite the reduced prereq's, some skills still need to be trained to 5 considering the ships they affect. But they've almost cut the time in half, and T1 hulls have improved performance compared to before. On the other hand, there is no reason to start over now. They're removing medical clone costs, so even if you're at 200m skillpoints, you can jump into frigates and go have fun and die as much as you want, with 0 medical clone cost when podded. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Abalieno on November 29, 2014, 06:43:57 PM Minuses - Ok CCP. WHAT THE EVERLOVING FUCK. I get lots of skillbooks I cant use because I dont have skills. I get a "civilian salvager." Cool. Bot I try and get a proper salvager? Sorry I cant learn salvaging because I don't have X and Y skill. I cant use the modules I have picked up because I dont have more skills. I cant use this ship. I can't I can't I CAN'T. I listened to this player screaming that he had invested 4 days on exploration skills and then find that every exploration site in High sec is utter shit and is swarmed by everyone else, and the only decent sites are in low sec. That's the good part, imo. When the game gives you clear goals to work toward it's fun. You get interesting loot, want to use it, need a number of prerequisites to fill first. Little by little you get more powerful, do more things, learn more, and so on. It's an interesting curve. The problem is when you run short of relatively quick and approachable goals. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on December 02, 2014, 11:43:25 AM Rhea features, new star map!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glWbOZsC5Js (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glWbOZsC5Js) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on December 05, 2014, 01:37:03 AM Everyone else seems to be going crazy over it, but to me it looks horrible. Lots of bright colours and you can't see anything because it's all shown in 3D.
In other news, PL lost a Titan and several Supercarriers to HERO in HED. HERO lost the battle, but got the strategic victory. I think it's a pity the CFC is not activity helping the little guys in frigates destroy the elite Supercapital fleet's. BL took 4.5 hours to arrive, got on grid and then chickend out immediately. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on December 05, 2014, 04:32:25 AM Everyone else seems to be going crazy over it, but to me it looks horrible. Lots of bright colours and you can't see anything because it's all shown in 3D. In other news, PL lost a Titan and several Supercarriers to HERO in HED. Correction, they lost the supercarriers in Querious [I just see ordinary carriers for HED]. The map, well its opt-in at the moment, plenty of time for feedback. Plus it can be windowed, WINDOWED! Its supposed to replace the local solar map for probes and whatnot too, though that functionality isn't there yet. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on December 05, 2014, 05:42:19 AM Comstar is conflating two different fights:
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 05, 2014, 05:49:32 AM There is nothing wrong with the present map. Its very simple and gives you all the information you want without cluttering things up.
The new one just looks like its filled with Icelandic wank. Not very good to see through. ANYWAY, done the SOE arc, which was a lot of running about. I got someone to help with the final fight and he said he was surprised to see me running a cruiser and drones as a 3 day old character. :P I've started playing around with exploration and I really enjoy it. I also have been doing... Courier missions. Yes they don't pay out as much as security missions as you don't get bounties, but bloody hell they complete fast, and you load up on loyalty points AND faction standing. I'm already doing level 3 agents and bought a load of Sisters probes with LP. Problem is that the only 3 sisters level 4 distribution agents is either in a 0.9 for crappy rewards, or deep in low sec for extra gankage. Guess I'm running for a blockade runner. I've pretty much decided to resub to try out exploration and probing stuff. I remember when I started eve in the beginning I wanted to be an industrialist but I was just forced into fighting all the time. Might be nice to actually play around with stuff like that this time. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on December 05, 2014, 01:38:12 PM Apparently CCP will be removing teams from the game for the moment [unless they change their minds, should be near the end of December], seems like not many people were using them though while the teams ui isn't very navigable it at least is used. There were some interesting applications to them a la http://www.themittani.com/news/crius-factories-and-racketeering. Lets hope CCP make them better. CCP removing a less than complete feature less than half a year after its release! Should have done this with Incarna.
There is nothing wrong with the present map. Its very simple and gives you all the information you want without cluttering things up. I like the old map too, the new one does look a little colourful. Lets hope they clean it up before its released. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: MahrinSkel on December 06, 2014, 10:46:31 AM Correction, they lost the supercarriers in Querious [I just see ordinary carriers for HED]. The map, well its opt-in at the moment, plenty of time for feedback. Plus it can be windowed, WINDOWED! Does this mean that it can be dragged over onto your second monitor? One thing I have never understood is why so few games have allowed people with second monitors to use them for more than keeping a game-relevant website up. So much UI clutter could be relieved if you just allowed players to tear them off the main screen. For MMO's, which almost universally suffer from feature bloat and UI overload, it seems like a no-brainer.(http://i42.tinypic.com/mb5p93.jpg) --Dave Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: KallDrexx on December 06, 2014, 12:22:01 PM Sounds like it just means you can make it smaller and move it around so it's side by side to your otherwindows, instead of your other windows overlaying it.
But I agree, more games should make user of a 2nd monitor. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on December 06, 2014, 01:15:51 PM To be fair, I sometimes play Eve spanning two windows at 5120x1080, and being able to window the map will be a great addition to that.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on December 06, 2014, 06:54:45 PM I read somewhere that you CAN move the map to a 2nd monitor.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on December 07, 2014, 07:03:49 AM You can.
EVE lets you move the position where your ship in space is rendered, which is the center of the on-screen scene. So, stretch your EVE screen over 2 monitors, then offset the in-space scene to the left so it's centered on the first monitor, center the UI elements underneath the ship if you wish, and leave the right screen for the map, overview, chat, and fleet windows. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Draegan on December 07, 2014, 07:19:37 AM I'm thinking about trying to play this game again. Should I jump in now or wait for whatever update is coming?
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on December 07, 2014, 08:34:31 AM I'm thinking about trying to play this game again. Should I jump in now or wait for whatever update is coming? The next update is, I believe, due out on Tuesday so the difference is minor. At the moment you have riching pickings in terms of what to do (assuming you join Bat COuntry): southern front; Reavers; Marine's corp ops; Venal front; EG if you are 3lit3 enough for Mister Vee; bomberwaffe if you are Boat-positive and so on. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Draegan on December 07, 2014, 08:38:28 AM I'm thinking about trying to play this game again. Should I jump in now or wait for whatever update is coming? The next update is, I believe, due out on Tuesday so the difference is minor. At the moment you have riching pickings in terms of what to do (assuming you join Bat COuntry): southern front; Reavers; Marine's corp ops; Venal front; EG if you are 3lit3 enough for Mister Vee; bomberwaffe if you are Boat-positive and so on. It'll be a brand new account if that makes a difference. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on December 08, 2014, 01:06:28 PM It'll be a brand new account if that makes a difference. If you didn't sell your old one, then Id keep your old one because skillpoints make all the difference. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Draegan on December 08, 2014, 01:42:20 PM Yeah but my old one was from 2006? 7? And I had only played it for a week or two.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Pennilenko on December 08, 2014, 06:45:57 PM Yeah but my old one was from 2006? 7? And I had only played it for a week or two. Still worth using the original account.Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on December 09, 2014, 01:43:09 AM Yeah but my old one was from 2006? 7? And I had only played it for a week or two. It probably has about 800k skillpoints. New characters start with a quarter of that. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 09, 2014, 02:33:42 AM I'd go with the original account dude. My character has been playing for nearly 2 weeks and only has something under 600K
Adventures in noob. Well I took a Mandate frig into a wormhole and poked around a bit. Found a data site and found it was guarded by sleepers. Tried to sneak up to a faraway can under cloak and try to hack it before the sleepers got me. No dice, fuckers have decent range on their guns dammit! So been hitting the courier missions like mad while I decide what to do long term. Actually have enough LP for an Astero BPC, and my standings with the Sisters of eve are at 7.1. I think I'll get it to 8 so I can install a jump clone then use the Astero to sneak into hostile space for some exploration funz. Yes I'm nearly at cloak 4 :awesome_for_real: Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on December 09, 2014, 06:03:12 AM I'd go with the original account dude. My character has been playing for nearly 2 weeks and only has something under 600K Adventures in noob. Well I took a Mandate frig into a wormhole and poked around a bit. Found a data site and found it was guarded by sleepers. Tried to sneak up to a faraway can under cloak and try to hack it before the sleepers got me. No dice, fuckers have decent range on their guns dammit! So been hitting the courier missions like mad while I decide what to do long term. Actually have enough LP for an Astero BPC, and my standings with the Sisters of eve are at 7.1. I think I'll get it to 8 so I can install a jump clone then use the Astero to sneak into hostile space for some exploration funz. Yes I'm nearly at cloak 4 :awesome_for_real: Courier missions are notoriously underpaid. I assume you do them just so it can be done afk? Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 09, 2014, 06:08:52 AM And it rockets up my standings, yeah, as I can get 5 of them done in an hour no problem at all. I'm thinking of doing them for all of the 4 corps you can start the epics arcs with so I can start doing them all when I am comfy in a Battleship and can actually do a level 4 combat missions
Besides I bought the Eve Premium ed which comes with a Plex which I sold, so I am not hurting for cash for the moment. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on December 09, 2014, 01:13:17 PM Found a data site and found it was guarded by sleepers. Tried to sneak up to a faraway can under cloak and try to hack it before the sleepers got me. No dice, fuckers have decent range on their guns dammit! Some sleeper data and relic sites have no guards, they are probably less lucrative. I just go into wormhole for some pirate relic sites [sansha etc]. Sansha trolled me yesterday after I found one their sites with NO tech 2 salvage. I'll probably go see if that Thera wormhole is still around close to where I am. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 10, 2014, 05:43:32 AM So, Thera, the new wormhole system with NPC stations, has managed to break 42 billion in losses after it was discovered with 1086 reported losses. Not bad. people have been bubbling the stations with dictor bubbles all morning (anchored ones don't work). Fun fast paced PVP!!
Fun times. Once again people will find that staying in the place will be more trouble than the "fun" it causes, and the place will be probably as empty as low sec in a few weeks. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on December 10, 2014, 06:20:29 AM I don't know why you think low sec is empty. Not often would you go 2-3 systems without seeing someone in low sec. You could easily jump 10+ null sec systems without seeing a single soul. On your Thera point, once the shiny wears off, the numbers will dwindle. But a wormhole system with a dockable station will always offer some attraction and I imagine there'll be a swathe of interested parties trying to control it for their own benefit.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on December 10, 2014, 08:01:06 AM Yeah lowsec has people in virtually every other system except in a few backwaters. I don't get this version of things either.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on December 10, 2014, 09:00:31 AM Well, calling them "people" is a bit generous, don't you think?
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 10, 2014, 09:05:03 AM Ok, ok. Yes, deep space is not truly empty, it has a few gas molecules per inch. :uhrr:
Anyway, my opinion on the new Graphics. Amarr Looks fantastic. Gallante loks great. Haven't seen much Caldari so dunno. Minmatar look worse in my opinion. They seem to have lost that pleasing rust look for a brown plastic sheen which to me is just not that attractive. I haven't heard one person say they like the new set of icons. Someone said he liked the new map but later said it made his eyes hurt. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on December 10, 2014, 09:24:41 AM Their new "physically based lighting" formula makes their current textures look like grey plastic. And, I'm laughing at the fact that they have to increase the brightness of the background nebulas because their "energy conservation" formula makes things too dark with just the light available from the local suns. Combined with the monochromatic dark UI elements, bright nebulas are already causing complaints of not being able to see.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Polysorbate80 on December 10, 2014, 11:38:28 AM There's not that much of a difference on the Caldari ships. I have trouble seeing it at all on some.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on December 10, 2014, 01:47:25 PM Actually the BB/Falcon/Rook have been totally revamped, the Gila/Eagle/Moa has had some slight changes.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 10, 2014, 03:13:36 PM Yeah only a couple of the ships got a redesign. The Amarr Cruicifier got a redesign as well I think.
And yeah had a look at a few Caldari ships. Ajax is right, the material texture on them sucks ass. Totally dull and plastic. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Polysorbate80 on December 10, 2014, 04:10:35 PM My Golem looks like it's rubber-coated. In brown.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Kitsune on December 10, 2014, 07:13:27 PM So, Thera, the new wormhole system with NPC stations, has managed to break 42 billion in losses after it was discovered with 1086 reported losses. Not bad. people have been bubbling the stations with dictor bubbles all morning (anchored ones don't work). Fun fast paced PVP!! Fun times. Once again people will find that staying in the place will be more trouble than the "fun" it causes, and the place will be probably as empty as low sec in a few weeks. I'm frankly surprised that the goons didn't move into it and immediately shit up the place with bubble dongs. If anyone in eve has the resources and manpower needed to hold that system, it's CFC or another major nullsec power, and last I was subbed goonwaffe was frankly better than their peers at subcapital warfare, which Thera requires. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 11, 2014, 02:05:30 AM Oh the goons are definitely in there. here is the Thera Killboard for your enjoyment
https://zkillboard.com/system/31000005/ I guess the only reason there are not space dongs is that you can't anchor bubbles in Thera. I checked the Thera channel this morning and someone posted a video of entering Thera, which was a vid of a ship exploding, and someone else said "pretty much", and someone else said "inb4hellcamp" So I guess things are going well for everyone. One thing that I don't know if there is any way to know you are going to enter Thera before you dive into the wormhole. If not I think people could be caught out having no idea if they are entering a populated system where the entrance wormholes are quickly found and camped. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on December 11, 2014, 02:25:35 AM One of our members - Marine - has been killing stuff (and doubtless dying) in Thera and running gangs in there, too.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Brolan on December 11, 2014, 06:38:27 AM Oh the goons are definitely in there. here is the Thera Killboard for your enjoyment Unless they changed the mechanic you have about 20-30 seconds of free cloak once you jump the wormhole. The secret is to not move and use that time to assess your situation. If it is bad you can jump back when your cloak gives out. Then use your knowledge of the system you came from to escape anyone jumping after you.https://zkillboard.com/system/31000005/ I guess the only reason there are not space dongs is that you can't anchor bubbles in Thera. I checked the Thera channel this morning and someone posted a video of entering Thera, which was a vid of a ship exploding, and someone else said "pretty much", and someone else said "inb4hellcamp" So I guess things are going well for everyone. One thing that I don't know if there is any way to know you are going to enter Thera before you dive into the wormhole. If not I think people could be caught out having no idea if they are entering a populated system where the entrance wormholes are quickly found and camped. Of course if someone is close enough to break your cloak early you are done. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on December 11, 2014, 06:55:12 AM Not sure if wormhole mechanics behave differently, but generally the 30 second jump cloak can't be broken by outside influence.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 11, 2014, 08:12:48 AM No it cant be broken, and its nearer a minute. The wormhole flashes though, so anyone watching knows SOMETHING has jumped in
BTW, what HAS surprised me is the amount of covert ops frigs that are on that killboard. Its pretty startling. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on December 11, 2014, 08:21:32 AM If you don't bring a covops or covop capable ship into a wormhole you might not be able to get out without podding yourself. Theras wormholes will fluctuate quite frequently due to the heavy traffic.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Kitsune on December 11, 2014, 09:34:57 AM Yeah, covops are the standard ride in w-space for scanning and exploration. Anyone who's just poking around is probably in one. And since most of them are probably unused to finding a camped and bubbled gate, they probably panicked and died like idiots upon jumping into Thera.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Abalieno on December 11, 2014, 06:19:50 PM Popping in to say that I resubscribed two weeks ago and having an overall great time.
My character is 10 years old, but I only subscribed 3-4 times along the years and only played for days overall without doing anything more than a few agent missions. So every time I tried to get into Eve I just got bounced back, despite my best efforts. This time everything's different, and that's only thanks to Brave Newbies and Kira in particular. Without them I doubt anything would have changed. I'd have played for three days and then let the subscription run out again. So the impossible happened: I'm having great fun in Eve, and the game is great despite it still sucks as it always sucked. I'm not even considering the possibility of unsubscribing. Details of my own experience are on the QT3 forum, but the bottom line is that if I could (have fun in Eve) everyone can, these days. And CCP should be grateful that something like Brave exists. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Pennilenko on December 11, 2014, 09:43:17 PM Eve is definitely one of those games that becomes magically transformed into something awesome depending on who you are playing with.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: MahrinSkel on December 11, 2014, 11:22:56 PM The problem in Eve was always in making it through the overhang of the infamous learning cliff. It's a lot easier with help.
--Dave Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 12, 2014, 03:35:17 AM Adventures in Noob. Well I now have the ability to run a covert ops cloak, so with the help of my new Astero (thanks sisters of eve missions) I decided to be a little more adventurous. So when I scanned down a wormhole into Null in a 0.9 system I said why not.
Well that caused a bit of an adventure as it lead straight into an outpost system, and the locals when they saw me in Local immediately flew to the wormholes (there were 2 in system, one leading into deep W-space) and camped them. So, after a while of poking around (I figured there was a nasty surprise waiting for me if I tried to use the stargates) I flew 150 away from the high sec hole, waited for the dictor bubble to expire and then warped to 0 and gone. Friendly folk the 0.0 residents aren't they? And all for little old me. I guess they fugured a 13 day old character would not be running around in a covert capable ship. Found a few data sites in wormholes and stuff but I seriously need better hacking skills as I'm losing way too many cans to failed hacking attempts. I still made about 10 mill yesterday by cruising wormholes, which isn't bad money I guess but could be better. I could have technically ganked a heron yesterday aw well but I contended myself with scaring him off my cans. Didn't have a scram on me anyway... Really enjoying the exploring game. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Draegan on December 12, 2014, 02:25:14 PM I finished the tutorial missions. I really enjoyed them but I have no idea what direction to go in. So I'm just going to do the sister of eve stuff I just saw that was recommended.
I'm thinking of going an industrial route, but I dunno. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on December 12, 2014, 04:25:05 PM The merc alliance I joined recently have just completed a successful contract in Sukanan. All the target poses destroyed, 67% ISK efficiency, which is reasonable, and the client was pleased. During which I managed to gimp my sec status to -8, so no jumping my blingy ships home through hi-sec without getting harassed by Concord et al.
I attended the alliance move op earlier in the hope of bumming a ride in a carrier but there was only room for the odd cruiser and there were others also trying to bum a ride which were ahead of me in the queue. So in the end I resigned myself to a 150mil push-x contract, which I duly created. In the meantime it occurred to me I had a cov-ops alt in next system, who I had been using to scout. I jumped him in and started looking for wormholes. The first hole I found led to WH space, the second hole turned out to be a low sec to low sec hole. With baited breath, I jumped my alt in and BAM! 5 jumps to home! Quickly broadcasted my discovery to the alliance and immediately a ragtag fleet started spamming ships through the hole and dropping them in the station. I love how Eve will reward lateral thinking, this is what makes it stand out from other games. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Viin on December 12, 2014, 08:54:14 PM How come none of you peeps are using the F13 channel anymore?
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on December 17, 2014, 06:51:11 AM How come none of you peeps are using the F13 channel anymore? There a f13 channel? Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on December 17, 2014, 08:34:35 AM Those of us who are in Bat Country tend to use our jabber channel to communicate. Some people also hang out in the corp TS3 server although at the moment that's mainly for Marine's roams, people playing Eve Online, the rump who play Archeage and three of us in a hidden channel plotting GIA stuff.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on December 17, 2014, 10:52:04 AM I spent about a year being the only person in the f13 channel. If I were still playing, I'd hang out in there with ya, bro!
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 19, 2014, 11:44:01 AM Would I be welcome in the Bat ts3 channel? If so PM me the details. I don't give a crap about null politics anymore so I will be a nice neutral spy.
Anyway, CCP have given everyone a bunch of items for Christmas. They are redemable items. UNFORTUNATLY apart from the usual snowball launchers they are just items you cant actually do anything with, with some crap about Eve history. I mean yeah its cool to have "chribba's mining laser" but an actual mining laser with a pink beam or something would have been more cool. More importantly they are giving free 20 day extra character training, so I'm training up another character on the account to fly a mining barge so I can mine when I feel like it. Exploration is becoming increasingly lucrative for me as my skils grow. I'm sitting with basically little dear in wormholes at this point and I've taken a few trips into Null as well. One thing is I'm undecided whether to go for Covert Ops frigs in the near term or save myself a month of training and go for the strategic cruiser now. The Astero is doing everything I want it to, and the only reason to go for the Covert ops is it will be much cheaper to replace, the theoretical ability to fit an expanded probe launcher and a slightly higher scan strength at covert ops 4. But the Legion is damn cool AND I WANT IT NOW!!! Decisions decisions. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Kitsune on December 19, 2014, 09:19:35 PM I flew and loved the Legion back in the lovehole, so I wouldn't try to talk you out of it. Just be aware that it's an expensive as hell ship and insurance doesn't cover much if you get it shot out from under you.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 28, 2014, 03:02:19 PM Thera seems to have largely become a deadzone. As someone in the Thera Channel put it "too much opportunity to be ganked, very little inherent income to compensate."
Though someone in the channel talked about how a hole to Thera opened in his Alt corps Wormhole system and it was like the abyss had been opened into his system. It was a hell of a red day on the killboard. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on December 29, 2014, 07:26:48 AM As expected.
We'll see how much CCP is fussing over their vision for the system, if they make any changes to Thera game mechanics in the January game update. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 01, 2015, 02:43:11 PM A blog I have been over the last few days (It's is a pretty anti goon guy but the numbers on this are solid) posted this chart about the amount of rats being destroyed in various zones between Sept and Nov last year
From http://greedygoblin.blogspot.hu/2014/12/november-ratting-data.html (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-vVGb6reLuAU/VIWzdo5sZ9I/AAAAAAAAJ6w/t-GXSm_FBno/s800/novrats.png) Some observations here (a) The fact that he had to multiply the Rats destroyed numbers from Low Sec BY TEN to have it even register on the chart is pretty telling. People may be making money in Low, but its not from belt rats or missioning nearly as much as the other zones (though I'm sure Incursions in low are well attended). That said it was rising slowly but consistently over the 2 month period. (b) High sec numbers of rat kills were rising and Null is falling. That can mean a lot of things. His interpretation is people who were ratting in Null are now ratting in High. But it could be that people in Null are making money in other ways. People could be leaving Null for the joy of WH space and new people are entering the game in High, or that simply that the people are quitting the game in Null sec and new people are entering the game in High. Either way, interesting Data over a couple of months. Without the Wormhole data we cant have a complete picture of what is really going on. We don't even know if the chart includes the WH systems as Null sec. Noob report. Well, I have decided to run around Null for a little while and fill my Astero's cargo hold with Valuable loot. After 2 or 3 days Womhole and Null jumping I am currently working my way through Scalding Pass with 160 Million's worth in cargo, and have started to look for wormholes to get me out of null to sell the stuff as as the value fills the less I want to go boom. I could have headed back a few times but I threw out all the worthless data site crap and 3/4 of my cargo space came back instantly for the loss of 100k value :ye_gods: Once again I have to note how bloody empty Null is. Its easy to find systems that are totally empty that I can probe in peace. I'm seeing systems with 20 or so Anomalies that look like thy haven't been touched. I'm seriously considering bookmarking all the combat sites I'm finding and going to where there are a lot of people and just offering the BMs for sale in local for 10 or 20 mill. Obviously I'd have to drop them in a can or something and skedaddle while telling people where they are, but hey it would be 10 or 20 mill for little work. When I have a lot of cash banked I might try Incursions, they look potentially interesting. I actually did a level 4 storyline combat mission with an Apoc with cruiser guns the other day. Fun, if scary :) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 01, 2015, 04:45:38 PM Oh having linked to an anti-goon blog, to keep it fair I have to link to a goon taking stock in a totally non biased way about where all the Nullsec failures are at at the moment. Enjoy!
http://www.themittani.com/features/gsf-christmas-diplomatic-update Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Brolan on January 02, 2015, 06:12:31 PM Who the hell goes ratting in High sec? They are worthless except to the newest players.
If more rats are getting killed in High sec its because more players are doing activities there than before. Rats in high sec are just a chore like taking out the trash. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 02, 2015, 06:29:23 PM Those include Mission Rats.
Bad day for me. I was tired so I got into a self destructive mood, so I lost a Bestower filled with faction POS mods to a Goovswarm Suicide ganker in a Vexor, and I wasn't scanning in a wormholw to I lost a Stratios I was trying out to a T3 cruiser. 600 odd million isk in one day down the drain... not bad! At least I was at my snarky best when replying to the "Goonswarm Ministry of love" bullshit Email. And I had a nice chat with the guy who blew my Stratios afterwards so it wasn't a total loss. And I still have my implants. :) I'm sticking with my little Astero for the moment. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 05, 2015, 08:44:05 AM Black Legion decided to go fishing for supercapitals and Elo logged-off a bunch of his titans and supers in a system where they had seen Pandemic Legion activity in the past. Unfortunately it was PL's own fishing crew's home system and BL got counter-dropped and lost nine supers (including Elo, yet again) and a titan.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 06, 2015, 08:28:21 AM An overview of the 2014 chess board from a somewhat unbiased perspective
http://crossingzebras.com/the-grand-chessboard-2014/ And The Story of HERO alliance so far from their perspective. Kinda cool actually. http://dailywelp.com/2014-look-back-brave-collective-part-2-2/ Noob report; The Drone regions SUCK for exploration. I went through 30 jumps the other night and all I found were 2 drone region type data sites filled with BPCs for "integrated" drones and essentially worthless drone parts. And the "difficult" hacks had literally nothing in the cans, and a little research showed that is typical for them. There's a fair amount of Combat sites if that's your thing, however. I Have been in Period Basis and Querious the last couple of days and that was pretty exciting, and pretty profitable too. Nothing warms your hull like a smartbombing Abbadon on a gate! Those regions seem to be filled with renters who aggressively defend their patches. But I still haven't lost my little Astero. Still haven't joined a corp and not feeling the urge to at the moment. All joining a corp does is open you up to wardecs and gives other people an automatic right to shoot your ass. Feck that. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on January 06, 2015, 09:28:33 AM That's a really cool infographic for the battle of b-r.
I popped my Bhaalgoorns cherry the other night hot-dropping a carrier and assorted faction BS/T3s (http://suddenlyspaceships.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=51727) who were trying to defend a pos. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 07, 2015, 04:40:17 AM Still haven't joined a corp and not feeling the urge to at the moment. All joining a corp does is open you up to wardecs and gives other people an automatic right to shoot your ass. Feck that. All joining a corp does for you is that but you are, I am sure that you would agree, not a representative sample. From speaking to CCP devs, the strongest indicator of whether someone will stay subbed in Eve is whether they join a corp. I agree with you entirely that you are really not suited for Bat Country (after all, almost certainly the most effective killers in highsec per capita in Eve), but I am sure that there must be a group out there who would fit your playstyle and unique posting style. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 07, 2015, 04:41:21 AM That's a really cool infographic for the battle of b-r. It is, and they should have attributed it (it's a CFC piece of artwork). Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 08, 2015, 04:35:17 AM Still haven't joined a corp and not feeling the urge to at the moment. All joining a corp does is open you up to wardecs and gives other people an automatic right to shoot your ass. Feck that. All joining a corp does for you is that but you are, I am sure that you would agree, not a representative sample. From speaking to CCP devs, the strongest indicator of whether someone will stay subbed in Eve is whether they join a corp. I agree with you entirely that you are really not suited for Bat Country (after all, almost certainly the most effective killers in highsec per capita in Eve), but I am sure that there must be a group out there who would fit your playstyle and unique posting style. YOU know Endie, that's the nicest "Sod off" I've ever gotten. :awesome_for_real: To think I was once the best fleeting member of he F13 division. Ah memories. But yeah. Oddly, what I'm doing now is similar to what I wound up doing in IAC and other alliances and in goons as well, Sneaking around being invisible. Its kinda what I'm best at it seems. Of course I lost my ship and 200mill isk in loot to a bunch of smartbombers in low sec yesterday. Its funny, losing a 400 mill Stratios to a T3 ganker in a wormhole does not bother me much (I even had a very nice chat with the ganker afterwards). Suicide gankers I roll my eyes at. But losing it to a bunch of idiots huddled around a gate Smartbombing all day in low sec drives me up the wall. Its the kind of blatantly stupid shit that drove me from the game before. And those guys probably laugh at guy's who sit mining and staring at a rock. I call people like that "Pirate Carebears" because quite frankly its no skill fucktardedness by people who would run like sheep away from anything close to a real fight. Looking at the killboard later I saw that all they were catching was frigs and destroyers. What the hell os the point of that? So yeah. I spend a few weeks dodging Camps and moving around Null with ni problem, but because I wasn't expecting spider tanking Jerks smartbombing on a gate means that I don't know how to move around hostile space, as sole idiot in the newbie channel said. The same guy strangly shut up when I said hat I had just replaced everything and that I was heading back to Null 20 minutes later, I guess he was sad I hadn't rage quit. Its basically taking advantage of peoples natural assumption that gates at least in low sec should be safe because that's what anyone with half a brain would have designed. Instead we have "fuck all rewards, infinite risk" Woohoo. Ok rant over. Lack to grinning. Oh and I came back to Amarr 2 hours later and made 150 mill in sell orders from a good bunch of wormhole systems I found when I headed out again. Not quite enough to bring me back to where I was Pre smartbomb but it made me feel better. :) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Kitsune on January 09, 2015, 01:47:49 PM I'm back for a month to poke around and see these changes, is anyone from ye olde days still in BC? If it's a bunch of total strangers doing hisec ganks, I may's well just join Goonfleet proper. At least that way I won't have to beg other capswarm pilots to transfer fuel for me whenever I take out the carrier.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 13, 2015, 07:12:56 AM I'm back for a month to poke around and see these changes, is anyone from ye olde days still in BC? If it's a bunch of total strangers doing hisec ganks, I may's well just join Goonfleet proper. At least that way I won't have to beg other capswarm pilots to transfer fuel for me whenever I take out the carrier. Well, there's me! And a few others (Uriq just asked to rejoin, Tgr/Zim, Darkona and so on). The highsec ganking crew are actually pretty quiet: the bulk of the corp are firmly set in nullsec, although a chunk of the best PvPers tend to be deployed with European Goonion from time to time. Bat Country is an odd corp, unlike anything else in Goonswarm: we have a decent chunk of the leadership of BNI as members on the semi-quiet, as well as people from PL, we're about to grab a (the) strat FC from Stainwagon and so on. Our jabber channel is a hangout for alliance diplos, the leaders of other alliances (TNT, CO2 etc), and pretty much all the good/chill posters that were in Test. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: squirrel on January 14, 2015, 08:48:04 PM Oh god, I actually feel the urge to play again(Win Sui). I left about 10 - 12 months back as a bat in good standing, just checked my gf.com account exists but has no permissions presumably as I'm in a noob corp. who's in charge now? Easiest to just resub and then re-app and then take care of gf.com jabber etc. I assume?
Also I have an alt with a carrier stuffed with ships I was moving back to VFK - no way to get those without also re subbing the alt account is there? Look what you've done. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 15, 2015, 02:54:47 AM Oh god, I actually feel the urge to play again(Win Sui). I left about 10 - 12 months back as a bat in good standing, just checked my gf.com account exists but has no permissions presumably as I'm in a noob corp. who's in charge now? Easiest to just resub and then re-app and then take care of gf.com jabber etc. I assume? Also I have an alt with a carrier stuffed with ships I was moving back to VFK - no way to get those without also re subbing the alt account is there? Look what you've done. You just need to use retvet - https://auth.goonfleet.com/retvet/ - What I would say is that we are currently at peace, so there are not non-stop fleets going up for strategic objectives. However, if you do want to have stuff to do then fun PvP fleets go out of QPO (our current base) several times a day, while the various squads are doing stuff. Join Theta and they fleet up to kill gankers all the time, although you will probably find yourself being bumped when Tib's titan and a handful of standing-fleet nyxes warp in onto the gate you are camping. And no: there is no way to get stuff off an inactive account. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: squirrel on January 15, 2015, 10:03:55 AM Thanks Endie, re-applied to BC. For some reason I'm in bloody Curse with a bunch of ships. Weird.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on January 15, 2015, 10:08:09 AM If your carrier is docked in lowsec then you could use the 'hours for plex' function in account management. This will activate your alt account for 4 hours so you can contract the stuff over.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: squirrel on January 15, 2015, 10:12:29 AM If your carrier is docked in lowsec then you could use the 'hours for plex' function in account management. This will activate your alt account for 4 hours so you can contract the stuff over. Oh that's a good idea. Might even be able to jump closer to home in that time as well. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on January 15, 2015, 11:48:12 AM Bear in mind that it's much harder to jump halfway across the galaxy now due to cooldown times and reduced jump ranges.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 16, 2015, 04:05:40 AM Also bear in mind that if you use hours for plex and then don't actually plex the account then it will be very difficult to persuade them to let you so ever again.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on January 16, 2015, 06:21:59 AM I've done it before, I think on the second time as long as you plex it you're fine.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: squirrel on January 16, 2015, 11:38:28 AM Bear in mind that it's much harder to jump halfway across the galaxy now due to cooldown times and reduced jump ranges. Yeah wow, found that out. That's a huge change, can't say I like it much but I guess it helps create conflict. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on January 16, 2015, 12:01:29 PM It also helps deescalate supercap warfare since alliances can't jump halfway across the game map in an hour now.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 17, 2015, 12:03:27 AM I looked up myself on eve kill and I'm stunned to find that I have 1.88 billion since I started in losses. Its kind of sad that I'm actually proud of that, especially that yesterday I evaded the exact same kind of bubble trap that killed me the last time in Branch. I'm getting back some of my old slipperyness. Its nice that I'm actually able to pull in that kind of money as a new character, and hopefully I'll be able to get some serious money in as I learn how not to die as often. :grin:
Yeah I'm proud of sucking. But it feels good to pull in good money as a newbie. Anyway I saw this posted somewhere and its a really nice piece of art Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 17, 2015, 12:30:03 AM Oh and I had a look at the December ratting report. The ratting in NuLL has started to rise again. Lowsec is still so low as to be hardy worth mentioning. Hghsec is still constantly rising
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nnCu1M29dsM/VKpkdpt310I/AAAAAAAAKBc/nTX5K52ncHo/s800/decrat.png) He then compares The High and null daily numbers and while High is totally consisten with people playing more at weekends, null is totally random. His conclusion (which I cant argue with) is that a lot of Null ratting is done by Bots and Pheobe has done little to stop it. (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-R35MwSrtiuU/VKpkduQpQcI/AAAAAAAAKBU/sm9RPk9XGGc/s800/highweek.png) (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mv24lEdi9S0/VKpkdqZWVFI/AAAAAAAAKBg/jdLQ-A-AJGE/s800/nullweek.png) He then breaks down the numbers of ratting for the alliances and put an anti-goon spin on it which I don't give a toss about, frankly. You can read if you are interested. I just like looking at the overall trends. http://greedygoblin.blogspot.hu/2015/01/december-ratting-analysis.html Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 18, 2015, 02:21:41 AM Battle report of a 5 sided brawl(!) in Provi a week ago, killing about 350 ships, 32 B lost and with backstabing and general mayhem.
http://evenews24.com/2015/01/11/saturday-night-fights-in-wd-vtv/ Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 18, 2015, 09:10:15 AM Dabigredboat executes one hell of a bombing run and murders a fleet of N3 ishtars (ishtars shouldn't even be bomb targets normally): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rOrgr6mSkE
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Kitsune on January 18, 2015, 02:42:25 PM Didn't DBRB fuck off to Test or something? I seem to recall one of the more known goon FCs bailing about a year ago, thought it had been him.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 18, 2015, 03:13:31 PM SO, I decide to Wander through C9N-CC to put a jump clone in a Stain NPC station. I dodge a cagecamp on both sides of the gate and land on an interceptor on a warp bobble on the exit gate. Get out, Safe and cloak, and wonder wtf is going on. I decide to play with my other character and watch Tv
I come back on at 9:20 and theres 260 in local and there's GOONS there. Yep guess who walked right into a supercap battle. My battle report is there's lots of stuff on scanner and deep space when you are sitting cloaked is lovely. http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2sunpg/1140_in_acj_stain_stainwagon_vs_n3_w_cfc_3rd/ <-- whats happening a few systems ahead apperently Some Pandemic legion guy is bitching in Local so I guess things are going well Local at 361 Tidi hit 30%, I guess theres a scrap right here in system. Lookat all those Archons on scan. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 19, 2015, 01:59:45 AM Didn't DBRB fuck off to Test or something? I seem to recall one of the more known goon FCs bailing about a year ago, thought it had been him. I don't remember any senior FC ever bailing on Goonswarm - people don't tend to want to leave us - and if they did I can't imagine them ever doing so to Test. Boat, incidentally, came to a Bat Country meet a few months ago, in Edinburgh. He was over on one of those homecoming-type trips - staying in his family's old home town - that Americans like so much and it turns out that his family is from the same tiny town I was brought up in in the north-east of Scotland. In other FC-related news as well as Marine (a Scottish FC we have who is an absolute machine and FCs fleets for us or for the elite peeveepee face of GSF, European Goonion virtually every day), Bat Country has picked up one bloc-level FC this week and should be getting another from a second coalition shortly. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on January 19, 2015, 10:26:38 PM It's too cool for me, I'd embarrass myself if I re-joined. Corp has progressed hugely since 2008, and I'm basically complete newbie with 80 million skillpoints trained.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 20, 2015, 02:44:20 AM It's too cool for me, I'd embarrass myself if I re-joined. Corp has progressed hugely since 2008, and I'm basically complete newbie with 80 million skillpoints trained. Nah don't be daft. We have several complete newbies in corp: attitudes are very relaxed towards anyone who can consistently avoid losing a carrier while ratting. In any case I have always stressed sociability and posting ability above in-game aptitude. We are basically a social club many of whom happen to be good at Eve. Half of them seem to spend their evenings on our Teamspeak server playing other games: this week, H1Z1, the week before that DotA, before that it was Archeage etc... Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on February 10, 2015, 06:57:07 PM Drifters incoming!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9fza_xCYAAwyIp.jpg) (http://40.media.tumblr.com/74f135793db1ce1538f93325f6d26dbd/tumblr_nizycdJYu11u3t3e6o1_1280.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/5OS3qJg.png) That station [is it a station?] is around 190km tall [avatar near top and naglfar near bottom] Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: squirrel on February 10, 2015, 11:49:52 PM It's too cool for me, I'd embarrass myself if I re-joined. Corp has progressed hugely since 2008, and I'm basically complete newbie with 80 million skillpoints trained. I just re subbed and am a 50 million + SP newbie. No fucks given and no one cares, it's chill man. Come hang in S-D and rat a bit, roam, fly tackle on fleets. This all presupposes you want to play eve but after over a year off I'm back and enjoying it. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on March 03, 2015, 09:00:41 PM Sov changes incoming to null-sec!
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/politics-by-other-means/ Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on March 04, 2015, 04:42:48 AM Have a 4 hour prime window, 2 hours on either side that's twice as long to capture things, and 2 hours beyond that that's 4 times as long?
Industry sov levels need to be set by everything industry, not just mining. I quite like the idea of every extra constellation has to have a different sov window. Still need a way to pack more people into a smaller space able to make money. If you do break the door down, you could get 50 fights in 3-8 different systems all happening at the same time. I like that. Ideally I'd want the timers/gun to allow cruiser sized squadrons/wings to be able to do it, not Frigates (which would have fun themselves chasing the Cruisers around and slowing down/scouting groups, and shouldn't be taking space by themselves). Maybe only allow Battleships/Battlecruisers sized ships the ability to fit entosis T2 versions (Battleships are more impactful, but need to be committed to do it). Caps can use it but 5 times as slow and supercaps can't use it at all Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 07, 2015, 11:45:50 AM I have just passed 3 billion isk. It helps that I have stopped losing ships :grin:
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on March 07, 2015, 02:24:10 PM I have just passed 3 billion isk. It helps that I have stopped losing ships :grin: It does help to be risk-aware, if not wholly risk-averse. I have never lost a ratting or mining ship since we moved to Deklein and: (http://i.imgur.com/V4QmLPk.png) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 07, 2015, 03:06:30 PM Well, my character only has 5 million SP and is 2 and a half months old. :grin:
But I have started using my Stratios for exploration and I haven't lost it yet... but it does mean I can spend longer in Null and wormholes, and I can refit and do Standard and Superior sleeper Cashe sites without running back to High sec to grab it, which eases my stress levels if nothing else. To be fair I did buy another 10m sp char for running missions when the mood strikes me. Most of my cash comes from exploration though. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on March 07, 2015, 03:25:10 PM Holy 1 billion skillpoints, that must be <2003 character.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on March 07, 2015, 09:15:38 PM CCP Fozzie just said he's quite happy with the amount of ISK being made in nullsec. So that's the death of putting more people in a smaller space. Also, delayed local (ha ha, good luck ratting then) and death to supers having weapons (which would be good).
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on March 08, 2015, 08:14:53 AM Holy 1 billion skillpoints, that must be <2003 character. That is like ten characters, sadly. Evething gives you an aggregate. Edit: the assets also includes a well-fitted super that an ex-member gave me when he left the game, (which I am giving to another corpmate who turns up on a lot of ops) this week. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on March 08, 2015, 08:15:55 AM CCP Fozzie just said he's quite happy with the amount of ISK being made in nullsec. So that's the death of putting more people in a smaller space. Also, delayed local (ha ha, good luck ratting then) and death to supers having weapons (which would be good). Well, one suggestion I have made is that you can make denser occupation possible without putting any more money into any one person's pockets by making an iHub spawn more anoms than at present in a given system. Delaye local would be a mistake, but if it was something you add to your space as an upgrade, and if NPC space therefore did not have it (making it something worth owning space for) then that might be rather different. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on March 08, 2015, 01:16:22 PM That is like ten characters, sadly. ... Ah that explains it, I don't think it's even possible to have that on one character. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on March 09, 2015, 05:41:36 AM Well, one suggestion I have made is that you can make denser occupation possible without putting any more money into any one person's pockets by making an iHub spawn more anoms than at present in a given system. How would you tell which anoms are empty and which are already being done by someone? There's no way to tell right now I think, so it would just add to everyone's time having to scan them down and find a new one. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on March 09, 2015, 02:15:06 PM Well, one suggestion I have made is that you can make denser occupation possible without putting any more money into any one person's pockets by making an iHub spawn more anoms than at present in a given system. How would you tell which anoms are empty and which are already being done by someone? There's no way to tell right now I think, so it would just add to everyone's time having to scan them down and find a new one. That did occur to me. You'd at least want them to be new variations with new names. I tend to ask what people are doing when I log in, and choose one of the other types from the five worthwhile anoms. It is far from ideal and not my preferred solution, but Fozzie explicitly doesn't want nullsec richer and doesn't want us to be able to run missions. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on March 09, 2015, 07:40:14 PM I guess nullsec doesn't have to be richer if it's more fun, and if the capitals are being nerfed to "
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Kitsune on March 09, 2015, 11:38:05 PM Somebody at CCP is just a fucking idiot if their master plan is to make nullsec a tedious bitch to live in and they aren't doing anything to make it profitable enough to make it worthwhile. Their whole 'oh gee guys, we decided to put our penis in your jump drives because you have too much space we want room for other people to move in' thing doesn't work if that space has nothing that anybody wants. Nobody's going to move into this and expose themselves to all of the massive headaches that come with it when they could just all fall into a wormhole and get crazy rich within a week without having to deal with any of the crap.
The whole point of controlling a region hinges on the region being valuable enough to warrant controlling it. Someone there seems to be missing that minor detail. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on March 10, 2015, 10:49:54 AM Or they just make it tedious until the current alliances collapse, then make it profitable and also advertise for new players to join the game. Like, "create a new account now and receive sov in a random vacant system in Null! Click this link now!" Maybe even implement a plan to completely remodel the starmap when Null gets empty, cause who's gonna complain if it's empty?
I have a nice tinfoil hat, I think. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 10, 2015, 04:08:09 PM Eve's economic model has been crazyass for years. Null is really about 5 or 6 people making squillions from moon goo that injects 100 million isk/ hour per tower into their wallet, then RMTing that shit. Everything else is just tricking other people into sitting around protecting those towers and occasionally playing pattycake with the other serfs, while the big guys make shady deals behind their back to protect their towers.
Even in the old days before Moon goo was a thing some regions were crazily better than others. It was soo off the wall than what a sane system would be like, which was having regions which were SOMEWHAT better than others rather than crazilly better. BOB were a bunch of total incompetents but it took years of grinding at them to finish them off, and that was solely due to the insane money they were making from sitting on a blood raiders region, then all the moon goo that hurr hurr magically appeared in their region, with 50% of low sec moon goo sitting in Aradia NEXT to their regions. If some people are making the cost of a dread per tower just from a single tower and other people are making comparatively fuck all from their region, then there is no way that the guys with an income of fuck all is going to shift the guys making 100-1000 times as much. Especially when the guys with all the income are all incestuously giving the others a hand. Much like the Goon gang that mysteriously turned up to help PL fight Brave 2 nights ago and "who were just there to whore on lossmails" but the first thing they did was to destroy all braves Cyno jammers. Yey PL, the PVP alliance that fights people who gives them a challenge. I was watching it on twitch. This is pretty much why I no longer have any interest in being part of nullsec politics. Wormhole politics is much more egalitarian and interesting, even if the numbers involved are smaller, but I'm not involved in that either. Yet. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on March 11, 2015, 06:41:26 AM You just made some good points there :-o
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 11, 2015, 09:37:14 AM And that makes me really really depressed :(
I mean I think everyone would enjoy a more egalitarian distribution of resources so things would flow better and people would have the resources to make a serious play for everyone else's systems and regions because even the good regions would not be HUGELY different in lucritivity. Hell I remember some fuckwits in Syndicate back in the day who were space rich and untouchable simply because one of their members landed a Hulk BPO. EVE!! And the problem is that even if things were changed tomorrow, the huge imbalance of income up till now would take years to even out. Oh well. I'm logging in to make millions. :/ Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on March 11, 2015, 07:13:32 PM Nothing is stopping CCP from reducing all wallets to a maximum of 50 billion without prior notice.
The super-rich, though, have a tendency to not spend and to try to acquire more, so in a way the money is out of the economy. Sort of. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Viin on March 12, 2015, 03:42:28 PM Just like the super rich in the real world! :-o
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on March 13, 2015, 10:11:01 AM You just made some good points there :-o No he doesn't it is almost all tin-foil rubbish. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 13, 2015, 05:18:03 PM Well yeah, that's what he would say. :why_so_serious:
The super-rich, though, have a tendency to not spend and to try to acquire more, so in a way the money is out of the economy. Sort of. You could argue people leaving is an isk sink too. vOv Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 13, 2015, 05:39:17 PM On a positive note, I ran across this site of Eve art, some of which is quite good
http://deadendthrills.com/gallery/?gid=25 Eve is a beautiful game when you are not looking at squares. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on March 14, 2015, 06:09:02 AM Well yeah, that's what he would say. :why_so_serious: People that fear black helicopters and the New World Order have much the same opinion. Wake up sheeple! But yeah that bollocks you spouted about personal enrichment from alliance moons and people RMTing and so on is at best half a decade out of date and was never the case in the vast majority of top-tier alliances. I have no doubt people here and there skim, but not in the CFC, for sure (we investigate will kick anyone who has a gap in their finances, and their whole alliance with them). My entire profit from thousands of hours of work for the alliance was one time when there was no fuel for my rorqual on the market in Deklein and I took a few thousand from the strat reserve. That was in 2012 and my personal profit was thus something like 5 million isk. I don't even see any evidence of PL or NCdot or nulli or the like doing it and they are hostile to us so if I saw any clue of it then you can be sure I'd get the knowledge out at every opportunity I had. But people like you and Dinsdale like to image some vast conspiracy that keeps the little guy down whereas really goonwaffe pays out eye-watering amounts of cash to its pilots in subsidies and SRP. However I am sure that you based your accusations on firm evidence and not on "some guy made some basically racist accusations about xDeathx last year on FHC" so please lay it out so we can judge it for ourselves. When 401K claimed that SMA leadership were stealing and RMTing I said privately to 401K's leadership "give me the evidence you have and I promise you if it checks out they are kicked." They came back and said "oh ok there's no evidence after all it was just an ex-director making it up" and apologised for wasting my time. I bet you that you have an equally lengthy list of witnesses. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 14, 2015, 10:50:59 AM Nice to see you focused on one throwaway comment about RMTing which wasn't even close to the point of what I was talking about, which was the stupid disparity in income, and the shady deals the nullsec powers do to protect that income. I couldn't care less if they are RMTing it or not but there are people selling PLEX on Ebay so someone with income is selling eve income.
I know, how could I dare suggest that people, in a game that involves a lot of scamming and corruption, could be shady and corrupt. What was I thinking. But more in dealing with the main point. I don't even see any evidence of PL or NCdot or nulli or the like doing it and they are hostile to us so if I saw any clue of it then you can be sure I'd get the knowledge out at every opportunity I had Yeah, PL are so hostile to you that you lot heard the Batphone and turned up to help them against BRAVE of all people. Oh sorry, it was just to "whore on killmails" but since literally the first thing you did in system was taking out HERO's cynojammers, and then you proceeded to hit their fleet and only their fleet with drivebys while they were fighting PL, I must confess to a little skepticism about that. Nothing shady about that at all, nope nope nope. But, since I am just a clueless idiot who does not know the inner secrets of Eve I would be shocked if I could provide video evidence of it like this: http://www.twitch.tv/daopa/v/3883149 Oops. Oh yeah. and the streamer isn't me and has nothing to do with me, so no point threatening retribution against him. I just happened to be watching. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on March 14, 2015, 01:04:12 PM So yeah you are saying that you were just making up stuff and have no evidence to offer of any sort whatsoever to back up a single one of your daft accusations quelle surprise.
Edit: Also I have no idea what the fuck your link to some no-nothing streamer is supposed to prove: that the CFC and PL and NCdot and Nulli and xDeathx and all the rest are enmeshed in a giant plot to control the universe? Do you also have some hard-hitting truths about how the CIA flew the planes into the twin towers and JFK was killed by Nixon with help from J. Edgar Hoover? Oh wait: you think that because a PL fleet and a bunch of CFC bombers shoot the same people that that means we are bffs? Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 14, 2015, 02:09:55 PM It means nothing other than that despite your "hostility" PL got your help for beating up on a new guy in the universe. Whether his stream is "shitty" or not, it shows your alliance giving active help to your enemy when beating up on someone who is on paper no match for them. It's not my fault it looks bad. And I didn't know I had to vet the quality of the streamer for any video to count as evidence.
If you don't want to look bad, next time tell them fuck off when they pick up the Batphone to beg for help when picking on someone. This concept is not that hard to fathom. Maybe take some personal responsibility for your actions rather than cry that someone told on you? Now in combination with things like the no sov warfare agreements between the big powers you might start drawing lots of conclusions involving people talking to one another, but its not my fault that I have a brain. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 14, 2015, 03:08:51 PM You know Endie. Here's a tip. You could have just said "I have no idea what those asswipes were doing down there. They probably went down to beat on brave themselves, we had nothing to do with it" that would have been fair enough. That's plausible. You cant control everyone people in game really and if they want to be assholes its there $14. But instead its "RAWR RAWR Shitty streamer! RAWR Believer in stupid Conspiracies! Rawr I'M PURE!!" and suddenly people are raising their eyebrows and the Phrase from Hamlet "The Lady doth protest too much, methinks..." is running through everyone's mind.
But you're right, I really have no idea if there has been a huge arrangement been made between the big powers. It would be impossible to prove and all you would get is wilful amnesia from the participants if there was any proof of it. Anyway... Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on March 14, 2015, 03:53:45 PM You know Endie. Here's a tip. You could have just said "I have no idea what those asswipes were doing down there. They probably went down to beat on brave themselves, we had nothing to do with it" that would have been fair enough. That's plausible. You cant control everyone people in game really and if they want to be assholes its there $14. But instead its "RAWR RAWR Shitty streamer! RAWR Believer in stupid Conspiracies! Rawr I'M PURE!!" and suddenly people are raising their eyebrows and the Phrase from Hamlet "The Lady doth protest too much, methinks..." is running through everyone's mind. But you're right, I really have no idea if there has been a huge arrangement been made between the big powers. It would be impossible to prove and all you would get is wilful amnesia from the participants if there was any proof of it. Anyway... Yes but your problem is that I knew *exactly* what they were doing down there. And I know what else is in the post, too, there and elsewhere. And no, I have no desire to tell you but I will repeat that you are so far from what is happening that it constitutes highly refined comedy gold of a level of purity that is potentially hazardous to the health. And why would I care about our members fucking with Brave anyway, let alone make apologetic noises about it to you? We do that all the time, just like everybody else in Eve does. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 14, 2015, 04:39:25 PM Ahh yes. The "I have sekret knowledge so deep that your tiny brain cannot possibly comprehend what is happening" line. I remember when BOB said the same shit about "you cannot understand what happening because you cannot see the game like we so. We see the Macro game" And how much people laughed at that. Its nice to see all the classics make a rerun.
What I really don't understand is why you want to make yourself look so ridiculous in order to "show up" what is just another random guy on the internet. I guess that's also part of the deep sekret plan that I could never comprehend... :oh_i_see: In other news, Lazers suck ass against angels :S Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Kitsune on March 14, 2015, 07:38:44 PM I have no idea who these brave people are other than having heard that they're a new alliance, but if they're some kind of shitlords and everybody hates them I don't see it being all that odd for the other alliances to cease-fire long enough to give them a beatdown. There doesn't have to be any Machiavellian back-room plotting going on for one team to get their shit ruined in a three-way fight. It happened all the time in Planetside. If there was any sort of collusion, I could easily imagine it being on the level of, "Hey fuck these guys, they're assholes. You want to have a truce until we kick their ass?" "Sure."
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 14, 2015, 08:05:46 PM They are an alliance full of newbies that recruit newbies that PL are picking on to get "good fites" they cant lose. The alliance is only 2 years old. They take Pilots a day old and bring them to Null
http://www.bravenewbies.org/joining-brave-newbies/ They also on the other side of Empire to Goons so Goons didn't accidentally blunder in and join forces in an alliance of convenience. That's what has everyone saying "fuck PL" PL needed Goons to take on a bunch of newbs. So yeah, hardly Shitlords... But apparently I'm stupid for believing in the existence of Machiavellian plans because I don't understand enough about what's going on to understand the Machiavellian plans. :uhrr: *head hurts* :oh_i_see: But hey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV5lzRHrGeg Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Kitsune on March 14, 2015, 10:43:02 PM If that's true, PL has fallen pretty damn far. Back when I last had any kind of exposure to them, they were certainly not pussies.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on March 15, 2015, 02:36:21 AM Ahh yes. The "I have sekret knowledge so deep that your tiny brain cannot possibly comprehend what is happening" line. I remember when BOB said the same shit about "you cannot understand what happening because you cannot see the game like we so. We see the Macro game" And how much people laughed at that. Its nice to see all the classics make a rerun. What I really don't understand is why you want to make yourself look so ridiculous in order to "show up" what is just another random guy on the internet. I guess that's also part of the deep sekret plan that I could never comprehend... :oh_i_see: In other news, Lazers suck ass against angels :S GIA director and member of the unholy triumvirate that runs the most powerful alliance and bloc in eve history in "I know more than one of Eve's four most idiotic posters" shock. More news as it comes in. Also, to correct "Sir" T yet again, PL are picking on BNI because they turn out with large numbers and because they complain like fuck after every fight on the forums. BNI have killed a couple of PL titans in this conflict and successfully defended most of the objectives, so things are always worth looking at in rather more detail than someone who tries to paint it in simplistic terms would have you believe. It has a lot to do with the need to find things to do since the run-up to the new sov system has left people kicking their heels. Why embark on a grind campaign when the next system apparently will offer such advantages to the attacker? Although, comically, someone is about to do just that. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on March 15, 2015, 08:26:47 AM Heh, I was just making silly suggestions in reply to silly posts.
If you don't want to look bad, next time [...] Since when do goons care about what pubbies think about them? It's kinda perplexing that you've taken that point of view, given how long you've played and your past goon membership. Brave Newbies have nurtured an image of themselves that they are the very essence of carebears transported to null, and victoriously making it. Very popular with the high-sec population. And maybe they are that, but null is null, and they have to deal with their neighbors in the kind of PVP politics arena that null is. It's quite similar to taking a WoW player and introducing him to EVE PVP. As far as revealing inside information about what happened, this is a public forum, you get that, right? Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 15, 2015, 11:09:06 AM Since when do goons care about what pubbies think about them? It's kinda perplexing that you've taken that point of view, given how long you've played and your past goon membership. Yes, it is interesting that the goons now seem to care very much. The screaming of Endie here kind of plays against that stereotype. Would he have gone so screamingly and hilariosly insane if he just didn;t care what a random pubbie thought? And I was pretty amused to see the reaction to one guy paying people to hunt goon assets in Empire. It was "HAHAHAHAAA you lowly fool cannot possibly affect our HUGE MONEYMAKING OPERATION!!" Even the mighty Endie himself showed up on his blog to make big sneerage at his ineffectiveness. I mean for evidence. look at the hilarious "we didn't want those POCOs anyway" and "you just don't understand the true plans" comments when Goons gave up all their highsec POCOs last march due to a campaign of people hitting them. After a huge post campaign about how little they cared about the campaign, and then ordering RVB to defend them. http://greedygoblin.blogspot.hu/2014/03/goons-didnt-want-these-regions-anyway.html The fact is, Goons care very much about their status.They always did. They care about their status between themselves. They want to be seen as the high and mighty and "don't give a fuck". They want people to care about them. They want to intimidate people with how crazy, powerful, and dangerous they are. They care every bit as much as BOB used to. Its the paradoxical thing about goons but while they say they don't give a damn about what people think, they will leap aboard bandwagons like lemmings in order to be with the "cool" crowd. I was at the wrong end of that myself. In any case Just to answer Endie *Blubber about how well Brave did in the war* You did notice the "on paper should not have a chance" bit in my post, didn't you? :oh_i_see: And it does not alter the fact that you came running to the aid of "hostiles" when they needed it. Hostiles my ass. You probably need them freed up because... *Blubber about I AM THE SPIEMASTER and YOU CANT KNOW ANYTHING Followed by his waving his secret infos in my face becasue he does not care what I think.* Quote Although, comically, someone is about to do just that. Yes, good times about to be had in Fountain, so I hear. :grin: Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 15, 2015, 11:37:27 AM Moving on to something much more interesting than pointless dick waving contests, here's the ratting graphs for Febuary
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Q23cdbegkgE/VPbT13rTYLI/AAAAAAAAKM4/5EdqwM8JKKU/s800/febrat1.png) Basically, High and Low sec ratting drops along with server population. Nullsec ratting is stable. So CCP fucoses on Null despitre a stable population while Losing Players in Empire. Sounds like a winning strategy to me. Trends are interesting too Rats killed by nullsec region Basicly the successful alliances do lots of ratting, despite all the "PVP mighty! Carebears bad! rawr rawr!" crap that's posted everywhere. All these graphs and tables from http://greedygoblin.blogspot.ie/2015/03/february-ratting-data.html (Bonus; short Endie appearence in the comments) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 15, 2015, 03:42:39 PM On queue, big scrap today in Aradia, around Hophib, which N3 is apparently using as a staging area to attack Fountain. Dunno who won, probably CFC.
Nice to see SOMETHING happening in Null. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on March 19, 2015, 04:03:05 PM Eve Fanfest Keynote showed some cool beans stuff such as this Emergent Threat CCP trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3060a8NkOk&feature=player_detailpage
Structures being redone, can be put anywhere, have a fitting screen, can be pilotable, stargates, observatories for information warfare, capital mooring and other stuff. Ghost fitting that is like EFT in eve and a new, new player experience and high resolution textures to be made available. More news on the new structures from the twitch stream on Saturday [eve footnote is on the first day this year instead of the last]. (http://i.imgur.com/A1YxmHU.png) (http://i.imgur.com/fAqwX5M.png) (http://i.imgur.com/y0BPxaD.png) (http://i.imgur.com/nzrIkai.png) (http://i.imgur.com/zrjU505.png) (http://i.imgur.com/5SAacfz.png) (http://i.imgur.com/326VcGS.png) (http://i.imgur.com/eqW1EKE.png) (http://i.imgur.com/LGdSwO1.png) (http://i.imgur.com/xrqJPuh.png) (http://i.imgur.com/mbT3BwV.png) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Gets on March 20, 2015, 08:42:50 AM Ah, the annual celebration over shit that, for the most part, we'll never actually see is upon us again.
I wonder if Hilmar's Tesla runs on concentrated space dreams. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on March 20, 2015, 07:30:42 PM To be fair to CCP these days, they seem to be 'delivering' atm, especially with their new expansion model. I still don't trust Hilmar.
Oh and Camel Empire defeated the Serenity team, 3-1. Yay space yachts for Tranquility. The Jackdaw and Hectate are the upcoming t3 destroyers for caldari & gallente respectively. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on March 21, 2015, 02:03:23 PM CCp just released structures dev blog - http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/back-into-the-structure/ - plus a couple of pictures of the new tech 3 destroyers shown at fanfest
Jackdaw (http://i.imgur.com/aP0d48u.jpg) Hecate (http://i.imgur.com/6jUcTmm.jpg) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on June 14, 2015, 10:45:19 AM So the new starmap is around however no one is using it and are sticking to the old one because scanning is pretty poor in this beta starmap. Fighter delegation has been removed from carriers and supercarriers. Damage control modules got a new icon that doesn't fit with the rest of the icons. Caldari t3 destroyer was released and new player tutorials was redesigned. Other stuff like an Ishtar rebalance, slight t3 cruiser balance. First part of entosis module interaction with outposts has been put in place along with an occupancy defence multiplier. New overview icons that are no longer squares but don't scale well [welp].
Can now enter Drifter wormholes. Other stuff that I cannot be bothered to post. Whats to come a buff to heavy missile damage [5% atm], t3 gallente destroyer, new missile modules that can use scripts. Fleet warp getting nerfed, can no longer warp members to something they themselves cannot warp directly to [i.e probe results], more missile hp incoming too. (http://i.imgur.com/QqVXWIw.jpg) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Gets on June 28, 2015, 03:23:22 PM FCs not being able to fleetwarp people to probe results is a good thing. Too many people these days thinking they are hot shit getting warped to targets by one dude and getting told to press F1.
Maybe next year we'll get stacking penalties for remote repairs and fleet fights become interesting again. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Brolan on July 01, 2015, 05:51:46 AM How do you share probe locations now? Can the probe ship warp the whole gang? Or do you have to jettison locations in a can?
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on July 01, 2015, 09:41:06 AM If the probe ship is the leader he can simply warp the whole gang to his contact. if the nerf goes through he will warp to the target and the then the gang will warp to him.
So it will take a few extra seconds and a right click to be shit hot rather than pressing F1 once. I have to say I'm probably going to unsub. Quite frankly, the game is very pretty with a very good economic model but the actuall game is boring as fuck compared to some others I am playing. I get more enjoyment out of just logging into to GW2 for half an hour to run dailys than for a few hours of eve, even if I make hundreds of milllions of isk in exploration which I have in one day on occasion. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on August 31, 2015, 05:50:20 PM https://www.themittani.com/news/drifter-incursions-suspended-due-technical-difficulties
Quote On August 27, CCP Falcon posted news that the new Drifter incursions (coined Sleeper incursions) are to be suspended from EVE due to "performance issues." Drifter incursions are the only new PVE feature made available with the recent Galatea content update on August 25, and their dismissal for the time being is sure to disappoint some capsuleers. Technical limitations on CCP server nodes are being hailed as the issue behind pulling the new feature. However, the details surrounding these issues have not been discussed by CCP in further detail. The temporary removal of the Drifter incursions comes at a time when CCP is pushing the Drifters as a huge capsuleer threat to the player base. Drifter incursions are similar to Sansha incursions, although were supposedly limited to nearby Amarr space in-line with the recent storyline events driven by CCP. As CCP works out the kinks, many are still eagerly anticipating this added PVE addition to EVE. The news was quickly crossposted to the EVE subreddit. “Sleeper incursions, even if not an original content at the core, had a lot of work behind them. The AI for imperial fleets, the drifter BS design, both visual and mechanical, the expanding nature of it. It may not all show right away, and may be even invisible if you don't interact with the feature, but there had to be a lot of work put into it, and there's quite a few hours of gameplay to be had with it, so it is content, if, perhaps, not for everyone,” commented Skaer on the eve-subreddit, “I'm starting to think that CCP really do need to test things more before releasing. This was the only big feature of this release.” press release Quote DEFENCE OF THE THRONE WORLDS CONTENT DISABLED 2015-08-27 19:35 By CCP Falcon We have decided to suspend the Defence of the Throne Worlds incursions for the time being due to performance issues experienced on the nodes running them. While we investigate and fix the problem that is causing the performance issues, we have taken the feature offline to limit disruption to players and developers alike, and prevent any unnecessary loss of ships. We will keep the community updated as to when the feature will be back online, and hope to have the issue resolved soon. In the meantime, for those players who are keeping pace with current storyline events, the war between the Drifters and the Amarr Empire continues to roll on. It will however be a little quieter until this feature is back online. CCP. Can't even manage an NPC invasion without fucking it up. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Merusk on August 31, 2015, 06:01:45 PM D-E-F-E-N-S-E
It's not the removal of a goddamn property border. That really says it all. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sparky on September 02, 2015, 10:53:51 AM Basically, High and Low sec ratting drops along with server population. Nullsec ratting is stable. So CCP fucoses on Null despitre a stable population while Losing Players in Empire. Sounds like a winning strategy to me. Given the results of that focus High and Low might well breath a sigh of relief. Nerfing the shit out of big battles, useful roles for capitals and deployment was a huge mistake IMO. No one is going to read about trollceptors and feel inspired to play the game, whereas B-R and the like always produced measurable subscriber bumps. Big wars didn't just inspire difficult to covert newbies either, plenty of bitter vets (me included) would subscribe only when a grudge match was going down. I've felt no compulsion to play since they bought in space aids, that shit is weak. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on October 02, 2015, 01:55:27 PM Eve Online roadmap update - http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/eve-online-roadmap-update-winter-2015-spring-2016/
Citadels and cap rebalance in spring, Crimson harvest, new t2 destroyers, brain in a box, falloff added to neuts and remote rep/transfer modules, tribute, kill marks and other stuff. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on October 18, 2015, 02:37:00 AM The latest dumfuck cash Idea from CCP... you can buy Skillpoints with RL money!! (Kinda)
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/exploring-the-character-bazaar-skill-trading/ Quote Exploring The Character Bazaar & Skill Trading 2015-10-15 10:55 By Team Size Matters | Comments Let's talk a bit about the Character Bazaar! In case you aren't familiar, here's how it works currently: we provide a character transfer service that allows anyone to move characters from one of their accounts to any other account at a price of two PLEX per transfer. Based on this capability, we have a forum section where players trade characters between each other for ISK. Not only does the Character Bazaar discourage people from participating in illegal account sales on eBay and other sites, it also creates a path to make dramatic changes in your progression in EVE. As a player, the Character Bazaar is how I made the switch from being a 15 million skillpoint Interceptor pilot to being a 33 million skillpoint Battleship pilot. I was able to afford it using the ISK I had earned in my first year plus the sale value of my character. This ability to either accelerate or change your character progression quickly is something players clearly appreciate having, as evidenced by the 70 or so character transfers that happen every day, and it’s also something we feel matches EVE’s core design which is focused on player control above all else. While there’s a lot of things we like about the Bazaar, it also has some problems. For example, you would never know it existed from actually playing the game, 3rd party services are nearly essential when trying to shop for the right character, and you are forced into an awkward auction system using the forum thread which often leaves both buyer and seller unsure if they are getting a fair deal. On top of all that, you have to accept that you don’t get any personalization of the character you’re buying. The name, exact skill distribution and reputation are all set before you buy. That part really hits home for me because when I made that jump from 15mil SP to 33mil SP I went from being called ‘Turbo Dinosaur’ to being called ‘Kil2’. Puke. I also found out, after the fact, that Kil2 had been involved in some kind of corp theft which meant I had to deal with negative reputation issues for years afterwards. For those reasons, we’ve been wanting to take a look at improving the Bazaar for some time now. Recently, we’ve seen new threads emerging where EVE players discuss options to help new players with progression. The combination of your threads and our Character Bazaar evaluation together were that extra kick in the pants to get us into gear. We quickly realized that to make a significant improvement to using the Bazaar, we would be looking at a large web feature for browsing, buying, and selling characters. Even if we hit that work out of the park, we would still have an experience outside the client that is hard to discover and fairly inconvenient to use. Why not instead move the experience into the client? By doing that we increase discoverability and we can avoid the awkward auction system. We also discovered that the vast majority of complexity involved in character sales goes away if you make them more granular. Rather than requiring that characters be sold whole, we could allow them to be broken up and sold in chunks. This means that buyers get to retain all the individuality associated with their characters and sellers can make some money off their training mistakes or unused skills without having to part ways with an entire character. I’m sure by now you’re ready to hear some details. We are still in pretty early stages so please remember that everything below may change, but we think it’s valuable for you to be able to concentrate feedback on something concrete so here goes. High level: There will be a new item type called ‘Transneural Skill Packet’ that can be consumed to give any character unallocated skillpoints A Transneural Skill Packet is created by extracting some of your trained skills and combining them with a ‘Transneural Skill Extractor’ which can be purchased in the New Eden Store for Aurum (The Transneural Skill Extractor is analogous to the PLEX service fee in the character bazaar).Both Transneural Skill Extractors and Transneural Skill Packets can be freely traded on the market for ISK Zooming in: Creating a Transneural Skill Packet requires approximately 500,000 skillpoints (we will fiddle with this number a bit to make it most practical considering common skill level denominations) Characters with less than 5 million skillpoints may not use Skill Extractors, they can still use Skill Packets Trial characters may not consume Skill Packets Extractors are consumed on creating Packets and Packets are consumed on use Characters consuming a Transneural Skill Packet will receive the following amounts of unallocated skillpoints, based on the total skillpoints trained before consumption: 0 – 5 million skillpoints = 500,000 unallocated skillpoints added 5 – 50 million skillpoints = 400,000 unallocated skillpoints added 50 – 80 million skillpoints = 200,000 unallocated skillpoints added > 80 million skillpoints = 50,000 unallocated skillpoints added As you can see, this design favors skill transfers for younger characters and makes them very inefficient for older characters. We’ve designed it this way so that we protect the prestige associated with long commitment to a single character. Why have diminishing returns at all? We want to make sure training decisions are still very important and that rapid respeccing of skills is not an efficient choice at any point. Note that respeccing below 5mil SP is not possible because characters that new are not allowed to create the SP items. Feedback on how exactly to set up the diminishing returns, or even alternate ideas to reach the same goals would be very helpful here. We think we are in the ballpark but getting the numbers right is very important. By putting more control of your characters in your hands we hope to improve the game for everyone. Whether you’re an older player who would rather have ISK than those mining skills you don’t use any more, a clever new player looking to invest your fortune into your character, a Corp leader trying to move everyone into a new doctrine or someone like me who just realized that they would rather fly Armageddon’s than Stilettos, this feature has you covered. This all fits nicely to our overall game design philosophy of giving you control over your experience through cooperation and competition with each other. There is a lot to be careful about here though, and we understand that. The skill system is a fundamental part of EVE so we need to make sure we account for all outcomes, which is why we're talking to you now. We hope that because this feature is modeled from the Character Bazaar, a long-standing and well-established feature, we are already pointed in a good direction. We would like feedback on everything from how the diminishing returns work to what ways you could see this feature being exploited to what ISK price to expect a Skill Packet to fetch so please let us know what you think. Oh, and one last note on the Bazaar, it won't go anywhere for now. It still offers something unique and valuable so we don't see a need to remove it. We just think this is our best route to providing a better skill trading experience. Looking forward to your feedback $ - CCP Rise on behalf of Team Size Matters Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on October 19, 2015, 07:42:07 PM Everyone is against it; don't really care personally. People have to take the skill points out of their heads in order to make them available, and not many will do that (I certainly won't). So it'll be a tiny supply and a huge demand; and so what's the difference between spending 40 billion ISK + PLEX on a 60m SP character vs. spending 40 billion + PLEX on 40m skill points that people have to take out of their heads first?
Tinfoil hat conspiracy theory: I think CCP is preparing the way for removing capital ships from the game. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Setanta on October 20, 2015, 12:25:09 AM If this allowed us to choose where the skillpoints came from and to trash a skill book that's been read I'd happily donate the skills to a newbie.. I'm so sick of my pure Minmatar having controlled bursts 5 :D
Rookie mistake Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on October 23, 2015, 06:01:24 PM EVE Vegas Citadels and Capital Ship Rebalance from Day 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8K9b7CEWOE (http://i.imgur.com/KmVdzDM.jpg) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Merusk on November 06, 2015, 03:19:57 AM Well shit. A one off comment based on my playing years ago just netted me over 3k Reddit karma. Thanks for the memoriesF13 wackadoos.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on November 06, 2015, 10:01:18 AM Got a link? I'm slightly curious.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Merusk on November 06, 2015, 10:45:30 AM It was possibly the most banal comment I could have made. Meant to be a joke that a few Eve folks would chuckle at and move on.
Guess it touched a nerve. https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/3rnr4b/screenshot_of_one_of_the_biggest_battles_that/ Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on November 07, 2015, 12:27:49 PM This was linked in there as well... which does bring back a lot of sweet memories of the Mature gamers in Eve Online.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmS9vcVNr5A Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on November 07, 2015, 05:24:15 PM That video is beautiful.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 09, 2015, 12:09:59 PM That video is beautiful. I agree, the sperging is truly exquisite. Brain in the box has been delivered and there are a few [this is very surprising for such a rework of core systems] hiccups like fleet boosters not always working [there are ways to get around this], wonky reinforcement timers for pos's and customs offices [but since pos's are getting replaced, I don't really care] and a few other things that havn't really impacted the game horribly. All in all we should thank the devs for a smooth implementation and know that they will continue to bug fix BiaB. Jump fatigue now has a maximum of 5 days much reduced from 30 though apparently anyone who knew what they were doing didn't get it up to 30 days in the first place, whatever. There is a new beta probe window out which can be used alongside the beta map and the old probe window and map window. There are still a few niggles for these beta widnows that need to be sorted out before I contemplate using them. D-scan appears in the new map window [shame it is the same colour as sigs], huzzah! Crimson harvest is over and it was a great success. Jukebox is back in some form in the audio[?] settings. Anyway tick the box if you preferred the old jukebox. Drifters supposed to back tomorrow with their Incursions possibly or in some form (http://updates.eveonline.com/kvd74o0q2fjg/LoDcUGMyOYCSQCuqoU06s/51dd74aae0a054e4bd2a1854ab6b7988/DriftersInAmarrSpaceImage_1920X10804ae8.jpg) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Merusk on November 09, 2015, 01:05:28 PM That video is beautiful. And awful at the same time. Much like Eve. With no sound I could be compelled to play again. With the sound I'm reminded of all the reasons I quit in the first place. I wish there was a PvE/ solo space game as gorgeous as EvE with 1/1000 the "sit here and wait." Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on November 09, 2015, 07:31:06 PM All in all we should thank the devs for a smooth implementation and know that they will continue to bug fix BiaB. Yeah, whatever. That video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmS9vcVNr5A) is beautiful because it's a FIFY of this official video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfFnTt2UT0). Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on November 25, 2015, 03:14:54 AM So from what I'm reading on r/Eve, the (very recently retired) head of the CIA found out that the President was corrupt, and told a reporter from the Wall Street Journal. The reporter promised not to tell anyone the source of the leek, and then immediately told his friend (who he completely trusted!), who posted it on the internet in plain text. Congress is now demanding the Supreme Court impeach the President.
It will make an amazing episode of the Eve TV series, or a spin off kickstarter by John Le Carre. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: DayDream on November 25, 2015, 05:12:11 AM I ain't know shit about Eve but what I read once in a while, and I only get a general idea from looking at the rabbit hole.
This feels like the cycle completing itself. Players in a position of power use shady RL shit in some form. Some upstart gets pissed, and goes after their position. After a long drawn out conflict, the corruption within the old powerful organization takes it's toll, and they fall from power. The new rulers take the throne and slowly becomes what they once hated. And so goonswarm becomes bob or whatever, and on down the line. Probably happened a long ass time ago, honestly. For what it's worth, this has always been the real problem with RMT. People can't take it easy, and get way too much real life shit caught up in something as fluid as ones and zeros in a video game. Patch notes come or someone decides to invade and boom, now some idiot can't pay their rent. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on November 25, 2015, 06:37:44 AM I ain't know shit about Eve but what I read once in a while, and I only get a general idea from looking at the rabbit hole... If you could elaborate or provide links it would be great, especially for those who don't read the Eve related forums, tia. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 25, 2015, 07:37:59 AM "The Mittani, you were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the BoB, not join them.
You were to bring balance to the Goon, not leave it in DARKNESS!" - Endie, Chief of Bat Country Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: MahrinSkel on November 25, 2015, 07:59:53 AM So, some time ago there was an internet spaceships thing called The Fountain War, when CFC fell out with TEST, and wound up finally achieving "The Blue Donut" (all 0.0 is Goon). The Mittani hatches a scheme where an established (but niche) Sci-fi author will write a book about it, the author's advance being paid by a Kickstarter.
There is inevitably much wailing and gnashing of teeth about how The Mittani is profiting from this, TheMittani.com (TMC) makes a post about how unfair it all is that they are picking on Mittens when so many others have found ways to profit from the game, and if they don't stop no author will ever want to do a project about Eve ever again, and everytime someone goes "Grrr, Goons" God masturbates a kitten: https://www.themittani.com/features/shake-it-off (https://www.themittani.com/features/shake-it-off) Just more Eve drama, until our very own Endie (former head of Goonfleet Intelligence Agency) has a private chat with someone about how the Kickstarter is just the tip of the iceberg, TMC is essentially a money-laundering scheme that pays contributors in ISK that is funnelled from Goonfleet coffers, and uses Goon-generated in game items as prizes in contests designed to increase readership of TMC and viewership of connected Twitch channels, all or nearly all (real money) revenues from all of this going to The Mittani. This conversation either leaks, or "leaks", depending on who you ask, when the non-Endie side uses pastebin to share it with someone else. Edit: Pastebin link; pastebin.com/QT7yxnBC (http://pastebin.com/QT7yxnBC) Edit; Damned tablet can't tell the difference between post and preview. Anyway, so there is now even more drama, CCP has all but confirmed they are looking into it, and goons are shitposting all over the place to try and shut down discussion of it all. I expect them in this thread in 3...2...1.... --Dave Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on November 25, 2015, 12:16:22 PM Nice one Dave, thanks. That's pretty epic drama right there.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: DayDream on November 25, 2015, 05:46:54 PM On the book deal, seems to me if it was really "for the good of eve" and this mittani connection was the trouble everyone was having...
Then the simplest solution would be to remove TMC/mittani from any and all financial renumeration, no? And just let it actually be for the good of Eve. I don't think that's in the cards, though. Not with this other shoe floating around. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on November 26, 2015, 01:04:09 AM Did the Mittani just order order 66 on BAT? (https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3u7z0j/mittani_orders_commissioner_order_against_bat/)
Quote GSF spy reporting: Mittani pinged for an emergency meeting of goon leadership and TMC shareholders freaks out about Endie leaks rages and muses long about betrayal Sion never trusted Endie really discusses various options to punish treason Sion stresses need to prosecute treason in order to reinforce loyalty of leadership to state mentions book/kickstarter (lol) importance of TMC for the good of the Imperium commissar order issued against all –BAT- supers confidentiality stressed - Endie shall stay in the dark concerns raised that Bat Country might defect asap, PL named intel cap movements of -BAT- act swift and preemptively will be the biggest purge in EVE history orders FCs to execute order during move op next week (viceroyalty) cover up preparations r/Eve is going bananas right now. This is no longer just a John Le Carre novel, it's also a Craig Thomas novel, and I expect it to hit Tom Clancy level of explosions shortly. The book could legitimately be called "Ethics in Game Journalism". Going to be hilarious if true, seeing as last I heard BAT had the greatest amount of supercaps-per-line member in GSF. I'm thinking of coming back just to be part of such a story...but I don't want to end up in Pandemic Legion either, and it wouldn't be as epic as the Retreat From Delve was. Also I never had a super, so wouldn't really feel part of the story if everyone else losses a Titan and I all have is a carrier in YA0. Good luck anyone here in BAT - the Drama is making quite a good read! Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Lantyssa on November 26, 2015, 07:22:44 PM My poor little BAT Rifter newbie (who was probably kicked out years ago)... Stranded in Delve, dubbed a traitor, and soon to be all alone.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on November 27, 2015, 06:13:59 AM Endie is a Goon hero.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on November 27, 2015, 11:49:16 AM Off -grid links will be a non-entity shortly, maybe not next month but near the beginning of the year.
Maybe some kind of aoe will be applied to them, so sayeth Fozzie. Now we know one of the reasons for an increase in grid size. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on November 27, 2015, 04:27:36 PM Also, Command Destroyers have a AOE Warp drive that can drop bubbles/ships/bombs/missiles from 100km onto your head. That's going to make battles more interesting.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: DayDream on November 29, 2015, 06:19:03 PM Found a take on the recent eve drama I thought was interesting. Kicked in about half way down., writing quality aside.
http://evesnotshot.blogspot.com/2015/11/the-ties-that-bind-00-monetization-of_28.html?m=1 (http://evesnotshot.blogspot.com/2015/11/the-ties-that-bind-00-monetization-of_28.html?m=1) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on November 30, 2015, 03:35:21 PM Doesn't Goon leadership change every couple years? Who was it pre-Mittens?
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: MahrinSkel on November 30, 2015, 04:11:55 PM Doesn't Goon leadership change every couple years? Who was it pre-Mittens? Dmitry Medvedev.EDIT: I may have been a little too clever. Mittens has been in charge of Goonfleet, in fact if not in name, since at least the alliance with Redswarm and the proxy battle between BoB and Goonfleet fronted by FiX/MC and IAC (2007?). So forever, in Eve terms. Other people have nominally been in the senior leadership position, but The Mittani has always been at the top of the Goon Eve pyramid. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on November 30, 2015, 08:26:23 PM He quit for a year or two after his first attempt at being CEO, then came back to the game right after Khartoon briefly killed the alliance.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on December 13, 2015, 04:50:33 PM So Bat Country has left Goonswarm federation, the ex-military leader of the CFC has left and a bunch of others are considering their options.
Has Olympus fallen? Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on December 13, 2015, 08:09:55 PM IMO, not sure what the internal politics are (I haven't played the game for years), but the changes to the 0.0 sovereigny mechanics, capital ships, and stations and outposts have kinda stopped the nullsec game in its tracks, and from my point of view it's taking CCP longer than anticipated* to "fix" it and give all the alliances a stable set of game mechanics to do something with.
* Silly me, I figured "strong 0.0 CSM, therefore CCP will change all 0.0 stuff during this CSM term." Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on December 13, 2015, 10:58:48 PM Ex-SkyMarshell quits (https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3wo7m2/i_am_exskymarshal_military_leader_of_goonswarm/)
Quote BlawrfGoonswarm Federation 18 points 9 hours ago Far too much to even touch on bit by bit. Attitude of some directors even before I was ousted from TSC, but as I was in a position of power I could challenge it. Being removed without respect, whilst convalescing from surgery. Even though Mittens apologised for it, profusely, it still hurt, and wasn't the action of a friend. Seeing this toxic, dark aura permeate illuminati whilst I was in there - seeing people shouted down for daring to question why TMDC broadcasts were sent, for instance. Seeing the echochamber work its magic, seeing high level leadership call Endie mentally unstable. Being threatened with log-leaking myself by Sion, information that could really, really harm my personal life. Lots more, but I'm tired and full from noodles so i'll try to return shortly! So I read that and think WTF? Then I saw Bat Country leaving the CFC (https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3wov17/bat_country_leaving_the_cfc/). The Soundcloud recording (https://soundcloud.com/someguyfromoverthere/ts3-recording-15-12-13-17-42-17) sounds like it reads like a Shakespearean of the end and a beginning. Still, everyone who wants to can stay in Goonwaffe/Federation, but I'll be interested when we hear where BAT is going. Sounded like PL, but I guess we'll find out. My fanfiction headcannon says it's all a ploy to start a Horus Hersey against the Imperialiam to reinvigorate the game for everyone, but that's just fanfiction. I should write a book about it. I am really impressed how much kudos and respect BAT has, which is a big credit to everyone in it past and present. Keep the headlines coming in r/Eve. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Setanta on December 14, 2015, 03:52:27 AM Endie's speech makes me want to re-join BAT :D
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Kitsune on December 14, 2015, 01:35:34 PM I'd honestly been a smidgen leery of Mittani ever since the whole 'hey guys Goon imperium in H1Z1 with custom Mittani merchandise I totally haven't sold out honest' thing. It looked a whole lot like someone got a check from Smed to be able to guarantee several hundred new players for a bad game. Given that running an EVE alliance is basically a full-time job of herding retards, I don't begrudge any director of any alliance for cashing out to some extent or another so long as it doesn't dick over the rank and file in the process, but that plus doing a book deal is getting into red flag territory.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on December 14, 2015, 01:54:38 PM Is it? That's completely out-of-game and the guy has been at the center of everything for so long that it's surprising he didn't have a book ghostwritten years ago.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: DayDream on December 14, 2015, 09:33:01 PM There's a lot of things in life that are okay to do for money, as long as you're up front about it.
Some things aren't, but I think that's mostly different forms of politics, or prostitution. And the prostitution's a maybe. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on December 14, 2015, 11:22:56 PM Hmm...Eve us becoming cool again, maybe.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Amarr HM on December 15, 2015, 06:43:34 AM Bat Country leave Goonswarm - I may resub.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on December 15, 2015, 07:22:41 AM I'd be curious to know if any folks from f13 are simultaneously still active in BAT and paying attention here anymore. An insider's perspective would be lovely.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Viin on December 15, 2015, 08:16:27 AM BC should totally go all 'hurt lover' and seek to destroy GS. That would add some life to this thing (and be lots of fun!).
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Teleku on December 15, 2015, 12:25:41 PM Christ, I have no idea were my BC character even is (was probably kicked out years ago) right now. I imagine just logging in will have everybody withing 20 systems gunning for me. :awesome_for_real:
Not that I've actually reached the point where I want to resub to eve again. Things need to be on a more downward slope in my life for that to happen (2015 was a terrible hear for me, but I'm on the up and up now. Why fuck that up with Eve!?). Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 15, 2015, 01:02:30 PM I almost regret giving away Himo now. :grin:
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on December 16, 2015, 12:35:42 PM Christ, I have no idea were my BC character even is (was probably kicked out years ago) right now. I imagine just logging in will have everybody withing 20 systems gunning for me. :awesome_for_real: BAT has been given a grace period of 3 weeks to get out. I'm going back in this weekend to see what's going on. Eve sounds...cool again. Maybe. In other news, Blawf's reasons for leaving get a lot more murkier, with much murkier issues about his leaving getting a re-run on r/eve today. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Gets on December 16, 2015, 12:55:07 PM I'd be curious to know if any folks from f13 are simultaneously still active in BAT and paying attention here anymore. An insider's perspective would be lovely. o/ I wouldn't even know what to say. "Eve is still gay as heck?" Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on December 16, 2015, 02:38:12 PM Yay! Tell Endie to come back and post hello or something. Also, let us know where you land!
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: squirrel on December 17, 2015, 12:06:49 PM I'd be curious to know if any folks from f13 are simultaneously still active in BAT and paying attention here anymore. An insider's perspective would be lovely. I'm still in BAT. Technically. I haven't logged in for a couple weeks and have to reinstall EvE to evac my shit at some point, but :effort: Edit: as for politics, meh. EvE is pretty fucking dull right now, Aegis sov didn't create content and the Imperium (ugh, really?) is stagnant with no-one to fight. In the midst of all this the H1Z1/Bookstarter stuff kind of rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way, not necessarily in BAT, just in general. It's all pretty dull and I think Midge/Endie just want to go do something fun and get out of the whole Empire thing, it's not really GSF/CFC as we knew it. All IMO, I don't really know much, I'm lazy and barely play as it is. There is some good fights to be had in low/NPC null and some of the new mechanics are cool. Null is stagnant. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Gets on December 18, 2015, 05:24:04 AM Eve Online very much runs on a drama based lubricant. While Bat Country leaving Gimmicks-R-Us is a profound kick in the butt we're very much amused of the inner and outer reaction it has had. The alliance is trumpeting how it's a good thing they are losing a corp known for Miniluv ganking, GIA tentacles and high supercap numbers and how we're now "severely diminished (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/corp/Bat_Country)" because of it since a slope in a graph is all the explanation you need. The grr,goons group is riled up as well molding whatever shitposting ammunition they can out of it all. Inside the corp things are rather chill and people are just busy managing their assets and characters and finding the will to resub accounts. Back in the day we used to have to move to the opposite end of the galaxy at least twice a year, so personally I've been waiting for a change in scenery for a long while now.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 21, 2015, 08:41:20 AM Looking at the wider Eve world rather than fukgoons, the CSM system appears to be ob its last legs, and CCP has pretty much sidelined it and insulted its members to their faces, making them pretty much unanimously go fukccp.
http://nosygamer.blogspot.ie/2015/12/the-csm-no-place-to-go-but-up.html Had a look at the graphs from Greedygoblin. This is the ratting numbers for a the last year and a half. Highsec in blue, Null in red, lowsec in yellow and multiplied by 5 so you can actually see them... (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GD7uNa-KWeA/VmWijx1OkII/AAAAAAAALB8/5j7hkKwpPaE/s800-Ic42/ratnov5.png) Basically CCPs strategy of fukhighsec is working as not intended and is driving people out of the game. Things are up slightly in null over the last year. He also has the ratting numbers by region, which he interprets as goons being poor as the ratting numbers are lower in goon areas in general, but it could be that goons are just less active or have other sources of income than ratting. You can have a look at the numbers at the link. He is an anti goon poster but the numbers are solid. http://greedygoblin.blogspot.ie/2015/12/november-ratting-data-with-poverty-of.html Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on December 21, 2015, 12:19:08 PM I don't know if CCP had a fuck highsec strategy; thought it was more a "let's ignore highsec for 18 months and concentrate on revamping sov and then capitals for nullsec", which they've wasted a year on with no results.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on December 23, 2015, 08:55:45 AM Bat Country leave Goonswarm - I may resub. You will fucking love our destination. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on December 23, 2015, 09:02:56 AM My poor little BAT Rifter newbie (who was probably kicked out years ago)... Stranded in Delve, dubbed a traitor, and soon to be all alone. The good news is that they will always move out you and a shipful of stuff, and the rest can just be sold. General notice: this includes supers and titans for those affected: after a few months they get magicked to a lowsec station. Way better than logging them in and extracting them the way we just had to do with a heap of the pestilential things. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Viin on December 23, 2015, 10:30:15 AM Wait what?
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on December 23, 2015, 11:17:55 AM Wait what? Well, you have to petition. And you are not allowed to insure them while in the station or you get lined up and shot. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on December 23, 2015, 12:51:09 PM Yup, CCP will move you and your 1 active ship with all the loot it can hold, if you petition that you haven't played for a long time and are now in enemy 0.0 with no way out.
Also they removed the standings prerequisites for buying jump clones, so as soon as you're out you can just click the medical facilities button and buy as many jump clones as your infomorph psychology skill allows. I'm not sure if they're offering any subscription cost deals like last year (where the extended multi-month packages cost the same but had quafe paint skins attached). Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on December 24, 2015, 05:16:05 AM Bat Country left Goonswarm last night, and I was able to tell our 47 Ronin just where we were headed. Fortunately, almost all were very excited, and the worst reaction was one person who was simply a bit nonplussed (although he was a bit off the meta in just what it was all about so that was understandable).
Everyone is under orders not to talk and I didn't waake up to a reddit thread so that was great, but we'll share it as soon as dotlan does! Our blue list is now one ex-member called koahi who doesn't log in. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: LeonGruber on December 24, 2015, 08:53:21 PM :ye_gods: :ye_gods:
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on December 25, 2015, 12:29:47 PM Good first post.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on December 25, 2015, 02:08:10 PM I agree. Concise, Accurate and summarized all the issues in Eve.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Gets on December 26, 2015, 10:25:31 AM Well that didn't take long.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 04, 2016, 06:54:24 AM We've been in PL now for about a week and a half. Some of us are still moving in: yesterday saw us get our supers and titans into PL staging, which was a brilliant achievement by Daktar working with PL help from the infamous rekkingcrew guys like Rocketx but in just over a week we've already had guys on two titan kills, a nyx kill, and the first ever fiend kill in the game. I went to bed on Friday and, checking comms before i left, I noticed that a third of the corp were all in one T3 destroyer roam. The content is non-stop, comms are chill, people seem surprisingly pleased to see us. We made the right choice.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 04, 2016, 07:29:34 AM Not sure what the big secrecy was though. I guessed you were probably headed to PL, so I'm sure people with actual skin in the game probably thought the same thing. Glad its working out for ya.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 04, 2016, 08:26:00 AM Anyone who doesn't realise why there was secrecy involved also doesn't understand why we went where we did, since the reasoning behind each was deeply related. There were extremely good reasons for the secrecy which I honestly thought would be quite glaringly obvious. In any case lots of people who either guessed wrong or didn't guess at all have since told me how confident they were that we were going to PL. I treat each with equally bemused disdain.
I almost regret giving away Himo now. :grin: Well, you must have had some very strange ideas about our destination since I am sure you must realise what the rapid result of you being in alliance which penif helps run would be? In any case, penif was a huge help in moving our supers, too, and was there to offer a hand before we were even approved for membership of the alliance. More than one person in corp has mentioned their growing man-crushes vis-a-vis him. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 04, 2016, 02:10:25 PM Razzor Death, one of our directors, posted a video of a couple of the bigger kills from our first week in Pandemic Legion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh7_y-Ugid4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh7_y-Ugid4) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: eldaec on January 04, 2016, 02:33:52 PM Reading the reaction to this has been great - and good luck in PL. If only I had a fraction of the free time needed to play the damn game...
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 04, 2016, 02:57:46 PM Reading the reaction to this has been great - and good luck in PL. If only I had a fraction of the free time needed to play the damn game... Because it's not really strat op stuff what people do is usually leave IRC running and when they hear pings they check what it is. Then jump in mumble, jump to cyno in blops or whatever, kill alliance tournament ship, wait out jump fatigue and bridge back. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 04, 2016, 03:04:42 PM Um, I hate to shock you, but penif used to come to me for help with stuff all the time in game, while playing the cool kid to the slackjawed goon morons by badmouthing me out of game. It was one of the things that amused me at the time. I doubt I would have much problems with him now that he is secure in his position.
I'm glad that you still feel the need to scare me off or make me feel bad or something. vOv And distain? Really? All it was was a guess, I really didn't care much either way. Hope it works out for you. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: eldaec on January 04, 2016, 04:19:17 PM A little off topic, but this thread motivated me to go check the price of Guidance Systems, now at 68k I've definitely made more isk unsubbed than I ever did playing the game.
Got to love Eve. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 04, 2016, 04:30:36 PM The amount of people running bots to avoid playing the game testifies to the futility of actually playing it. :why_so_serious:
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 05, 2016, 01:39:16 AM Um, I hate to shock you, but penif used to come to me for help with stuff all the time in game, while playing the cool kid to the slackjawed goon morons by badmouthing me out of game. It was one of the things that amused me at the time. I doubt I would have much problems with him now that he is secure in his position. I'm glad that you still feel the need to scare me off or make me feel bad or something. vOv And distain? Really? All it was was a guess, I really didn't care much either way. Hope it works out for you. If you think penif would get on with you then umm ok. We hadn't even got into the alliance befre penif saw a list of our supercap characters, saw Himo on there, and had to be talked down with reassurances that the character had been sold. I don''t feel any need to "scare you off". You did the condescending shtick where you failed to comprehend why things were done so I have tried to explain, but I can tell you that you would not be allowed back into Bat Country after what happened the last two times. You're a nice person away from Eve matters - I like what you post elsewhere on f13 and on facebook - but your amazing over-confidence regarding the truth (or even credibility) of your opinions regarding Eve is at times teeth-grindingly awful. You unquestioningly repost Gevlon Goblin articles. You assert things that haven't been true for literally years. I mean, let's check out your latest piece of work: The amount of people running bots to avoid playing the game testifies to the futility of actually playing it. :why_so_serious: What are you basing this on? What is your evidence? When do you think that this last applied? Because having seen the stats as part of the CSM, having seen the alterations to ISK-selling behaviour, and having seen the changes in ratting and market-trading behaviour from both up-close and on-high I can tell you that you are talking bullshit. If, on the other hand, you have even one iota of credible evidence of widespread botting then please do PM it to me so that I can tell the security team this morning. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 05, 2016, 02:18:08 AM Dude, I don't post his articles. I post his CHARTS, which are based on dotlan dumps and are raw numbers. And I post my own interpretation on the numbers, not his. You might note that I totally disagreed with his analysis the last time I posted those charts. Its not my frigging fault that numbers in Eve are declining. Yeesh, get that stick out of your ass. I'm not trying to prove my superiority in knowledge. How the hell would I. I don't know anyone in eve anymore. I'm just good at spotting patterns and like seeing if I'm right or not.
And like I said, I just guessed you were going to PL. If I was wrong I was wrong, no skin off my nose either way. And I'm sorry that a well known Eve Streamer, Daopa, who gets c250 viewers every time he streams, which is what you call a shitty streamer to try and diminish him, was right there when PL called you lot in to help them demolish Brave Newbies, therefore causing most reasonable people to think the 2 of you are just pretending to hate one another and are sekretly working together. I didn't record it, I just happened to be watching. And since I knew a Fountain war was Starting I just figured you needed to get PL out of that war to come give you a hand, so you helped finish the war fast to free them up. That's it, that's the end of any claims of my superior intel. Its just the comments of a mildly interested bystander. I didn't even critisise you for working together as such. I know you have a grudge against me for whatever you think happened in the past, but I didn't make you make a fool of yourself when you started crowing at me that goons threw LOVEU out because of me while you were in a recruitment drive to get people to going the same fucking alliance you were saying was petty enough to throw out an entire corp because of one person. Its not my fault that the Alliance leadership were looking at it and got a big fucking laugh out of it at you making a fool of yourself. Hell I was actually recommending people to join Goons at the time, but you couldn't hold it in, you had to crow about it and you made yourself look like a fool all by yourself. All I did was point it out. So seriously, stop with the "I know so much more than you and therefore fuck off dweeb" act. People are entitled to comment on something if they want, and if you want to constantly read something anti-goon into it that is your problem, not mine. And I hate to shock you but this section of the forum is fucking dead, so having ANYONE write on this thread is a blessing that you shouldnt be shitting over just because of 5 year old grudges. And as for Penifsmash, hell I'm sure he knows its good theater to make you guys a little panicky to make you just that little more grateful to be included in his little group. All I know is that he was friendly to me in Private and horrible in public, and I really don't care either way what his real feelings were at this point. What is Himo flying these days anyway? I know he had all the prereqs for a Gallante Titan and wasn't too far from Bombers when I gave him away. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 05, 2016, 03:48:09 AM Whoah easy there I have some nomadic Huns over here annoyed that your furious Great Wall of Text is blocking their annual migratory routes into China.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 05, 2016, 06:16:29 AM :roll: :oh_i_see:
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 05, 2016, 03:42:14 PM After ten days of herding cats (if cats need to delete APIs, register for new services etc), moving supers and space-politicking I had set aside this evening to go on my first actual PL, non-supercap-move fleet.
I was glibly boasting about how my fourth alt was able to fly every PL subcap doctrine when the broadcast went out for ahac+ fleet. Sound of needle scratching across record as I realise that that should have been everything *except* proteuses. I could have flown something else but I *really* love proteii so I logged in a different alt, used the once per year home station thing to get to the utopia office that midge grabbed today, grabbed a proteus off contracts and undocked. I just wanted in a fleet. The fleet started at 2030, and we were undocked and moving in a little over ten minutes more. Not much more than ten minutes after that we were bridged and jumping through a gate into several hostile fleets of typhoons, machariels, bombers and something else I forget. NCdot had brought a fleet as well so we weren't alone, and they had their cute newbies along from Northern Army, too. We murdered typhoons until those ran away, then a few machariels. Then we jumped next door and fought some more. Init turned up to shoot us in ishtars and we killed those until they scarpered, and I seem to have twenty or so machariel kills so I guess we killed those too. We were pretty well outnumbered but I think we lost like ten of 160 PL guys, and we were brawling right in the middle of the hostile fleets for the whole time. I found myself in that place where you don't notice the time and 90 minutes have passed just shooting stuff. The best bits were, however, nothing to do with the kills: a third of Bat were in that fleet, not because of any pressure but because these fleets are just fun. And about a fifth of the whole alliance were there in one channel on comms, hanging out and having fun together. After years with the increasingly vast tens of thousands of the CFC where you didn't feel you shared very much with the larger group, I really enjoyed just being with spacefriends and doing stuff together for fun. I've missed that real alliance community feel for a while. It was the same when we were watching a Bob Ross painting stream the day before ("UGH RUINED...", "SAVED!") or when folks were watching movies together on OG mumble at the weekend: it's a group that does stuff together for fun. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 09, 2016, 08:30:39 AM Woke up, took the dog for a walk on the beach, logged in and read some forums and got pinged by an ex-member (now in Volta) saying that they had another ex-member's (now in Goonswarm's Korean tax haven Dokdo) carriers tackled in Deklein. Hedliner had the same intel and so we formed up Sleipnirs and wormholed our way right across the map. There then followed 23 dead chimeras:
(http://i.imgur.com/Li7Dii5.png) After we killed those we burned for another set of carriers Volta had tackled in Pure Blind, but partway there we bounced back a jump and killed an Auguror Navy Issue fleet before continuing our journey. The tackled carriers were now a large carrier and supercap fleet with a hurricane fleet for support, but we jumped into their gatecamp, burned off, killed tackled, bounced back to kill some 'canes, then exited through the wormhole. All in all, a great afternoon. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 09, 2016, 08:49:51 AM oh and we killed another rag and a nyx the other day. That's one dead CFC rag/nyx pair a week since we joined. These killings will continue until the Mittani complies with our demands.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: eldaec on January 09, 2016, 08:53:33 AM I could have flown something else but I *really* love proteii Seriously, this is a proteus. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85841906/1347243-proteus4.jpg) I refuse to believe even its mother could love something that ugly. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on January 09, 2016, 10:13:31 AM These killings will continue until the Mittani complies with our demands. The action reports are awesome, but for full understanding we need to know what these demands are. Not sure they've been mentioned anywhere. EDIT: Grats on the kills. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 09, 2016, 11:45:53 AM I could have flown something else but I *really* love proteii Seriously, this is a proteus. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/85841906/1347243-proteus4.jpg) I refuse to believe even its mother could love something that ugly. The sleip is a prettier doctrine but the proteus is beautiful at brawling and tackling. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 09, 2016, 02:07:16 PM These killings will continue until the Mittani complies with our demands. The action reports are awesome, but for full understanding we need to know what these demands are. Not sure they've been mentioned anywhere. EDIT: Grats on the kills. I dunno I've not really worked out what we should demand of him. Probably the immediate release of any PvPers still being held in Goonswarm. About 14 or 15 of us went on another fleet this afternoon for a timer in Providence. A bunch of Russians turned up in Typhoons again, so we killed a ton of those: I got on about 10 billion ISK of battleship kills but I know others were on a bunch more. NCdot issued a formal apology for using a meat-cannon* to boosh** a bunch of Russian typhoons to safety when we had them trapped, otherwise we'd have murdered even more of them. A hurricane fleet issue fleet and a cerb fleet also turned up to fight us, as well as a bunch of Petes***, but the first two ran after we killed the Russians and warped in on the Cerbs, while the Petes were driven off by our bomber squad who probed them out every time before they could do any real damage. *New command destroyers **These can micro-jump 100KM and take everything in a sphere that surrounds them with them ***Almost-unprobe-able glass cannon tengus who snipe but which are very vulnerable if you can shoot them. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on January 09, 2016, 02:19:48 PM When I was running around Exploring I'd guess 80-90% of the strategic Cruisers I encountered wandering around were Tengus. The rest were Proteus and I think I only saw a Loki once. I of course was flying the Legion to be different. :grin:
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 09, 2016, 02:23:09 PM Our "ahacs" doctrine is split between proteins and legions. Each has its fans.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 09, 2016, 02:27:16 PM This image aptly sums up what we did to the CFC Auguror fleet earlier, after we killed Gaara's carrier fleet:
(http://i.imgur.com/qsbilzv.png) We've regrouped on the gate after killing the Augurors but you can see where we kited them off the gate up to the final killing ground above. I don't think we lost a single ship, although I could be wrong. They literally queued up to be shot. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: squirrel on January 09, 2016, 05:07:19 PM Woke up, took the dog for a walk on the beach, logged in and read some forums and got pinged by an ex-member (now in Volta) saying that they had another ex-member's (now in Goonswarm's Korean tax haven Dokdo) carriers tackled in Deklein. Hedliner had the same intel and so we formed up Sleipnirs and wormholed our way right across the map. There then followed 23 dead chimeras: (http://i.imgur.com/Li7Dii5.png) After we killed those we burned for another set of carriers Volta had tackled in Pure Blind, but partway there we bounced back a jump and killed an Auguror Navy Issue fleet before continuing our journey. The tackled carriers were now a large carrier and supercap fleet with a hurricane fleet for support, but we jumped into their gatecamp, burned off, killed tackled, bounced back to kill some 'canes, then exited through the wormhole. All in all, a great afternoon. This is awesome and almost makes me regret being unsubbed. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 11, 2016, 02:32:37 PM Pings go out that someone in Providence is streaming an op with carriers and some very flashy subcaps as support gating around the place, so ten or twelve minutes later we have 130 guys in Tengus and a bunch of supers in fleet, and we burn a few jumps to a titan and bridge onto the other side of a gate while hictors and dictors jump through and get tackle. I often wonder what it must feel like for the guys in capitals or supers or whatever when they see local spike with -10 tags: it feels awfully good to be the ones causing that sinking feeling, I admit. Pandemic Horde, our :shobon: newbie alliance, also turned up to jump onto some capital killmails.
At this point we burn out to spike range and start picking off vindicators and bhaalgorns while titans and supers jump in and start picking off the carriers with doomsdays and fighter-bombers, which looks very impressive from where we are standing but probably less so from the receiving end. It was the first time some of the bat guys had got to drop like this and they loved it. Our co-operation wasn't brilliant, though, and we lost more tackle than we should have. The battle report is here. (https://zkillboard.com/related/30001160/201601112000/o/%7B%22A%22%3A%5B%5D%2C%22B%22%3A%5B%2299002367%22%2C%2299001970%22%5D%7D/) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Slayerik on January 15, 2016, 09:26:20 AM I noticed Viper Squad on some of those killmails... is ole Sith Bandon still flying these days? That Romanian fucker could rage, but I've never been led by a better small gang leader than him.
After a little searching, seems he hasn't been on a kill since April 2015. I don't recognize any names from -VSQ-'s TRI days. Ah well! Always had a lot of respect for PL. Glad you guys landed there. Well done, Endie. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on January 15, 2016, 11:30:43 AM I noticed Viper Squad on some of those killmails... is ole Sith Bandon still flying these days? That Romanian fucker could rage, but I've never been led by a better small gang leader than him. After a little searching, seems he hasn't been on a kill since April 2015. I don't recognize any names from -VSQ-'s TRI days. Ah well! Always had a lot of respect for PL. Glad you guys landed there. Well done, Endie. Funnily enough, a member that left us just before we moved to PL (and that we couldn't let back in for now) is in Viper Squad, FCing a good bit, and it was him that worked with us to get the 24 chimera kills when they tackled Gaara. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Gets on January 15, 2016, 01:06:19 PM A wormhole corporation tried to transfer their planetary customs offices to their alt corp, but somehow messed that up and transferred them to us instead. We now have tax collecting customs offices in a wormhole solarsystem we've never even been to :awesome_for_real:
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Jayce on February 08, 2016, 08:37:32 AM So how is life in PL? How is the culture, compared to CFC/Imperium/whatever? Where do you live (region or general area is enough if it's :opsec:)? What are the goals of PL since they don't own space as far as I know (except a little bit of BOT space that inexplicably survives in a post-Phoebe/Aegis era)?
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on February 09, 2016, 06:41:12 AM Someone else can write a lengthier reply, but it's been a blast. We're living out of NPC nullsec and BAT splitting time between the north and the south right now. As far as I can tell, PL's only goal is to fight everyone and kill stuff. The only downside I've encountered so far is that it's easy to burn through isk keeping up with experimental fleet doctrines.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on February 11, 2016, 12:31:29 AM Someone else can write a lengthier reply, but it's been a blast. We're living out of NPC nullsec and BAT splitting time between the north and the south right now. As far as I can tell, PL's only goal is to fight everyone and kill stuff. The only downside I've encountered so far is that it's easy to burn through isk keeping up with experimental fleet doctrines. Yeah: while I've yet to lose a ship (helped by the lack of internet for the last ten days when i should have been doing the riskier small gang stuff out of Venal), it is easy to throw cash at every new doctrine that comes along, some of which don't get much of an outing. Even my napoc is just sitting there collecting dust, although I noticed a fleet going out with them a week or two back in US TZ. I'll also say again that the actual fleet stuff is part of it but the movie nights and Bob Ross watching and stuff like that is great, too. There are roughly 1/20th of the real people in PL as there are in the emporium, so you can actually get to know the folks in irc or the people who go on your fleets in your tz. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Slayerik on February 14, 2016, 07:34:57 PM I loved living in Venal. My old stomping grounds... ah the memories. I actually even scouted and tackled a few ratters using directional scanner in the North (and I sucked pretty bad with that thing). It would escalate to small gang fights, then alliances chasing us down and getting raped by our HAC squads. Or us getting caught in a trap that we could usually escape due to our love for Vagas. Unless there were rapiers. Or Huginns. Damn those ships. DAMN THEM TO HELL.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on March 17, 2016, 04:10:30 PM From Sisi some citadel and capital items
This one burns out on use. (http://i.imgur.com/lgE1slI.png) (http://i.imgur.com/o1PbN6z.gif) Rorqual only drones (http://puu.sh/nK2g5/ad2bcf4281.png) Support fighters [includes warp disruption] (http://i.imgur.com/ZMUFmSM.jpg) Carrier skill and module (http://i.imgur.com/FHbR96C.png) Some doomday's (https://i.gyazo.com/8ad7c4f6be1600e9d595e8749ab1fc3a.png) Citadel doomsday (http://i.imgur.com/RVzpUcF.png) Other citadel defence weapon (http://i.imgur.com/eg6HvJ3.png) Cloaked citadel (https://i.imgur.com/NzdTJ0P.png) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on March 17, 2016, 05:09:44 PM Someone's also linking pictures (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=473863&find=unread) of capital-sized NPC rats, in-station billboards, and a cloaking citadel.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on March 29, 2016, 04:39:21 AM War is coming?
Hmm, seems it's already here (https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4ccr0t/co2_to_reset_the_imperium/). Is the start of the Third Great Eve War? Someone in the action care to comment? Will it end the Imperiam in the ruins of YA0/VFK? I can't imagine the Collation who really needs a snappier title can go all the way to Deklien, but it looks like C02 *just* missed an event on the scale of Istavaan III that could have destroyed the supercap fleet. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on March 29, 2016, 05:58:54 AM All I know is that Daopa has been streaming Timer fights around M-0 the last few nights so I imagine something major is going on. I have no idea what though.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on March 29, 2016, 07:32:07 AM Comstar, you think Money Badger Coalition isn't a snappy enough title?
Everything is mostly speculation right now, but Goonswarm and their allies definitely took a major blow yesterday when CO2 defected. It still seems unlikely that Deklein will fall, but I'd bet it just depends on who whelps their supercap fleet first. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on March 29, 2016, 08:35:36 AM C02 have switched sides, CFC under attack everywhere, cool beans.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on March 29, 2016, 09:17:27 AM War is coming? Hmm, seems it's already here (https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4ccr0t/co2_to_reset_the_imperium/). Is the start of the Third Great Eve War? Someone in the action care to comment? Will it end the Imperiam in the ruins of YA0/VFK? I can't imagine the Collation who really needs a snappier title can go all the way to Deklien, but it looks like C02 *just* missed an event on the scale of Istavaan III that could have destroyed the supercap fleet. I think that this post, originally from reddit, describes it best: Quote So I've been seeing a bunch of wtf is going on posts from travelers or people not fully aware of the war going on in Eve, and I got a few messages to post my writeup on the reddit rather than as a comment. So, without further ado: The political structure of Eve before the war was CFC, a super-coalition of 40,000 members+ having total dominance in the north of the map, in an area called null sec (or 0.0 space, it's lawless and can be player owned). The hallmark of CFC is enormous numbers of people in generally cheap doctrines (doctrine being a set of ships and tactics) to outnumber an enemy. They were considered to be totally unassailable, possessing manpower and resources far beyond even the most powerful of entities in Eve. Low Sec (0.1 - 0.4 space) is another area of space, and has some laws (not many though). The LowSec entities (known collectively as LSV) are constantly fighting over "moons" (a way of passively generating income for a player group), and their hallmark is obscenely expensive and skill intensive doctrines, to make up for comparatively very small numbers of players. CFC, the big group up north, have been stagnating because no one wants to fight them (they're known for making fights not fun, by intentionally lagging servers, avoiding fights and when they do fight, bringing so many people they can't possibly lose). To counter-act this, they declared war on LSV to take their moons (the passive income thingys) and force them to fight. This didn't work. Instead of steamrolling the LSV groups with minimal preparation and effort, they got crushed in pretty much every engagement. By this I mean they'd lose full fleets and kill only one or two ships in return. Gradually they got a little better, but they almost never did "well," almost always losing, and continued to be demolished by fleets that at times were a quarter their size or less. To counter-act this, they prepared better and got more numbers. In response, the LSV entities put aside their constant squabbling and war mongering to band together into what is affectionately known as "Forming Voltron." (thus the name, Low Sec Voltron – LSV). LowSec Alliances might constantly fight and war with their rivals, but they all hate one thing above all others, and that’s outsiders. The same thing happened again, with CFC losing fights, but on a much larger scale with fights involving thousands of pilots. After not only defending all their own moons, the LowSec entities proceeded to wipe CFC out of LowSec, taking all their valuable moons in the process. While this was happening, one of the larger Alliances in the CFC (who are a coalition of alliances) pissed of a group called I Want Isk (IWI), and enormously rich and powerful gambling organisation. Something about theft and betrayal, but regardless, they decided to pay these low sec groups to get revenge against the CFC for them (and is likely a major catalyst in them forming together so quickly). Having successfully expelled CFC from Low Sec, LSV looked for future targets, and with likely direction from the IWI (gambler guys) and Tishu's BLOPs (battleships with a very long range jump drive to attack farming ships) campaign in Fade, set their sights on the north. With the assistance of virtually every major entity in Eve, who answered the call to arms from either being paid by IWI or the glory of the next major war, the new Coalition (who have yet to decide on an official name, although Money Badger Coalition (MBC) seems to be a front-runner) have begun an invasion. Spread across numerous regions and hundreds of systems, MBC have begun to systematically drive out CFC from their homes. Currently most of the alliance sin the CFC are in full retreat, after having lost several regions that were previously thought to be impregnable. As it currently stands, a large portion of the CFC have been ordered to withdraw to the far north, the home of Goonswarm, the leaders and core of the CFC. A recent address by the leader of goonswarm indicates they intend to use the north as a base to harass the allies as they grind the regions in order to control them totally. As the allies begin to grind out the regions which are increasingly being left undefended, the last few pockets of resistance such as the Co2 Alliance are gradually being worn down. It is assumed that at some point the allies will move further north, once their latest conquests are secure, to take the fight to Goons. If this happens, you can be almost certain that we will see another battle such as that of B-R5RB several years ago (you can look that up), which resulted in hundreds of thousands of dollars’ worth of assets being lost. In other words, it’s the war of a century in Eve, with pretty much the entirety of the PvP groups in the game all allied against a single super-coalition. Regardless of who wins, it's going to be a really cool time to be in the game. Update 1: As of a few hours ago, the allies / money badgers / whatever won a major strategic victory, successfully taking control of Co2's (a member of the cfc) primary staging system. This is significant because it was defended by the full CFC, lacking only their capital fleet due to their suspicions of a trap (which was actually them reading more into Co2 evaccing than anything). This was the first major test, and the timer was won whilst inflicting enormous losses from the CFC's subcapital forces, with several fleets being wiped out to a man. Importantly, M-O is traditionally the bottleneck for accessing the space of the Northern Empires of the past, as it allows access for the allies into the northern regions (where the core of CFC live). Following the victory, Co2 have declared they will no longer support goons, and it is assumed they will now be supporting the Allies in the hopes of having their space returned to them. Update 2: So the leader of the CFC, The Mittani, released their version of events from the M-O fight in a soundcloud recording which you can find HERE. The gist of it is they felt it was at least a partial victory for them, as they were falsely lead to believe that the whole point of the iHub fight was to trap and kill their super capital fleet (neither side fielded their extensive super capital fleets in this conflict). Note the iHub is a structure which grants control of the system (ownership if you will) and allows upgrades of the system, and thus is essential to controlling the system. Supercap fleets contain the most powerful ships in Eve, Titans and Super Carriers, neither of which can be docked and must generally always be piloted (thus tying up that pilot whilst the individual owns the ship), resulting in added cost on top of their already enormous build costs (for titans, this number is in the thousands of dollars range). It is worth noting that the iHub timer is considered important because it allows the Allies to control M-O, which is an important stepping stone to the northern regions, where the CFC has retreated to. Whether they remain ignorant of the system's importance, or merely do not consider it to be important is unclear. Thus you have the two sides of the conflict spinning this massive fight two different ways, with both claiming victory of different objectives. ~TL;DR~ The largest coalition in the game decided to take a poke at the numerically inferior Low Sec alliances. Instead of crumbling as expected to the superpower, they banded together and pushed them back out of their area of space, taking all of the big coalition's income in the area as they did. Once people saw it was possible to beat this super-coalition, most of the player groups in the game decided to band together, with encouragement from the enormously rich I Want Isk (IWI) gambling organisation who have grievances with the super-coalitions's component alliances. Today marked a major victory in taking the strategically important staging system of one of the super-coalition's player groups which caused that group to flip sides to the attackers. ~Very TL;DR~ Big War. Big group attack little group. Little group win. Little group attack big group. Everyone attack big group now. Big group losing. Badly. Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/4c5r7q/what_the_hell_is_going_on/d1ff5om Edit: For clarity, CFC = The Imperium, they rebranded to Imperium to increase cross-platform marketability (so to other games). Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on March 30, 2016, 05:22:27 AM I think that this post, originally from reddit, describes it best: TLDR - Its all Endies fault? Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on March 30, 2016, 05:25:33 PM Sounds more like the entire high school ganging up on the one bully.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on March 31, 2016, 01:12:23 AM Sounds more like the entire high school ganging up on the one bully. Not a bad analogy. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on March 31, 2016, 04:07:54 AM Reminds me of the feeling when BoB was fighting Goons...just before someone switched off the lights in Delve. Both times in fact.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on April 07, 2016, 12:13:30 PM Goons allies are currently taking most of the pressure, surprisingly Fidelas Constans is not as bad as I thought in engaging but they are still getting their shit pushed in.
Some in FCON alliance chat are blaming CCP and are accusing them of paying the Moneybadger Coaltion in order to drive up subscriptions. Lol. Lots of tears :P (http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/verite/20160407.png) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Slayerik on April 08, 2016, 11:21:24 AM So... somebody give me a guy to shoot stuff with... ;)
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on April 08, 2016, 02:19:06 PM Cash -> many PLEX -> Skill Injectors -> You can create a new character and take it to 100m skillpoints with your choice of ships trained in about an hour, depending on your clicking fu.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on April 08, 2016, 10:15:09 PM Start a fresh newbie alt and app to Pandemic Horde. Best time in Eve.
I'll float isk for skill injectors if vets without accounts want to come back. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Ginaz on April 09, 2016, 04:13:39 PM A hilarious side note to all this is that Mitanni guy is apparently pissed that the war is being referred to as World War Bee. :awesome_for_real: Maybe he's upset that it's not a very marketable name and his opportunities to monetize it aren't as great.
Edit: Aaand I resubbed. :facepalm: I stuck deep in Goon territory with a lot my stuff locked away from me and ended up getting my Hurricane destroyed about 10 jumps away from safety. Not unexpected, though. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on April 15, 2016, 02:28:05 AM Sounds like the war is over. VFK and YA0 have fallen without a fight. Senior Manager Kismateer got booted for making a joke about leaving. Which was apparently just before the Mittani was going to give him a reward...running https://www.reddit.com/r/eveonlinenews - the only news you need to hear about Goonswarm these days. Goonswarm Federation has more people in it from Karmafleet now than Goonswarm itself. These are the end days for the 3rd Goon Empire.
I don't doubt Goonswarm will be back...but I think The Mittani needs to leave it and let someone else build it up from the ground up, again. It was never Endie who had gone off the deep end, it was someone much higher than that. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on April 15, 2016, 06:15:38 AM The leaks on reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/eve) were pretty amazing and very entertaining (they're not done yet, btw). It's biased, but still, hilarious.
The amounts of ISK that some entities have accumulated in this game were surprising (and disheartening) for me. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on April 15, 2016, 11:10:37 AM Oh yeah, definitely. I earned more money with exploration than I ever had when I played Eve before, which is why CCP started nerfing it hard because fuck new accounts earning decent cash to pay for Plex etc. However some fucktard can have a tower injecting 100+ mill/hour up his cock for years and that's cool, yo. In a channel I was in some guy who was playing for years quit the game in disgust because he just found out how much moon goo was making for some of his alliance mates while they sit on their ivory towers while he was busting his ass to make less than a tenth of it.
And I remember looking at towers with about 20 moon goo canisters during Bob War 1 and thinking "ok they must be using some exploit that the Non elite in eve have no idea about" and lo and behold a year later everyone was shocked, shocked to dicover that there was a moon goo duplication bug that everyone in 0.0 was using. Speaking of which The account I left training skills has pretty much every scanning skill at 5, bar one that its training now. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on April 17, 2016, 12:07:30 AM If anyone wants to see some red and blue squares drawing lines at one another, Daopa has some videos up on his twitch channel. This one has a lot of big things involved so its a good example of big battles.
https://www.twitch.tv/daopa/v/61077648 Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on April 17, 2016, 07:24:51 AM Oh yeah, definitely. I earned more money with exploration than I ever had when I played Eve before, which is why CCP started nerfing it hard because fuck new accounts earning decent cash to pay for Plex etc. However some fucktard can have a tower injecting 100+ mill/hour up his cock for years and that's cool, yo. In a channel I was in some guy who was playing for years quit the game in disgust because he just found out how much moon goo was making for some of his alliance mates while they sit on their ivory towers while he was busting his ass to make less than a tenth of it. And I remember looking at towers with about 20 moon goo canisters during Bob War 1 and thinking "ok they must be using some exploit that the Non elite in eve have no idea about" and lo and behold a year later everyone was shocked, shocked to dicover that there was a moon goo duplication bug that everyone in 0.0 was using. Speaking of which The account I left training skills has pretty much every scanning skill at 5, bar one that its training now. When Himo says "everyone in 0.0 was using" the duping bug, he means one small group of Germans at the head of one alliance and that nobody else was found to be doing it. I would love to bandy that sort of smear nonsense about Bob, but sadly there is no evidence at all of any such widespread nonsense. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on April 17, 2016, 10:08:58 AM Tell me Endie are you as against Daily Opportunities as I am?
I pay NOT to play WOW and I pay to play in a sandbox. This is what CCP said in their skill injector blog - 'while we make sure there is one single mechanism that brings new skillpoints in to the system – training.' Now they bringing something probably cooked up by their ex-EA employee CCP Denebola, that directly contradicts that. Get CCP to see some sense will you? To say I despise this is really an understatement. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on April 17, 2016, 01:12:01 PM Tell me Endie are you as against Daily Opportunities as I am? I pay NOT to play WOW and I pay to play in a sandbox. This is what CCP said in their skill injector blog - 'while we make sure there is one single mechanism that brings new skillpoints in to the system – training.' Now they bringing something probably cooked up by their ex-EA employee CCP Denebola, that directly contradicts that. Get CCP to see some sense will you? To say I despise this is really an understatement. Nah, I'm fine with it: not-logging-in is habit-forming. Keen newbies who want to log in a lot can gain from it while us bittervets who sit in irc and wait for fleet pings every day won't. Although the flurry of death when our fleet moves through a gate and spots rats on the far side will be awesome. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on April 17, 2016, 03:11:22 PM When Himo says "everyone in 0.0 was using" the duping bug, he means one small group of Germans at the head of one alliance and that nobody else was found to be doing it. I would love to bandy that sort of smear nonsense about Bob, but sadly there is no evidence at all of any such widespread nonsense. That's because the heads of all the alliances had an emergency meeting and agreed to pull all their dupe towers down before CCP officially acted, and CCP smacked a small alliance to show they had done something(tm) and then said everything was hunky dory (and allowed the "banned" players to make new accounts, and I know they did because one of the "banned" Players showed his email with both the banned message and a "welcome to Eve Online" email right after it). And I wasn't saying anything specifically about BOB, its just what I personally saw. Everyone of the big Alliances at the time was at it. *shrug* Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on April 17, 2016, 10:03:10 PM Nah, I'm fine with it: not-logging-in is habit-forming. Keen newbies who want to log in a lot can gain from it while us bittervets who sit in irc and wait for fleet pings every day won't. Although the flurry of death when our fleet moves through a gate and spots rats on the far side will be awesome. I wish I had your optimism on it but it only kills the sandbox for me in a lazy attempt to appeal to the fickle lowest common denominator while scaring off those who want an eve where they are the ones that make the goals and not CCP's. CCP is supposed to be HTFU but instead they are trying to psychologically influence players with boring pve is which not going to work while damaging certain sandbox playstyles and making SP trivial. Skill injectors I don't mind as they come from an existing pool but this is just crap. When they say 'while we make sure there is one single mechanism that brings new skillpoints in to the system – training.' & a couple of months later add this, you know something is rotten in Iceland. I'll play eve but if they add this its goodnight sweet prince. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on April 18, 2016, 02:29:57 AM But by gum those mission running bots are gonna be busy! :oh_i_see:
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: palmer_eldritch on April 18, 2016, 06:21:54 AM Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Endie on April 19, 2016, 05:07:53 AM When Himo says "everyone in 0.0 was using" the duping bug, he means one small group of Germans at the head of one alliance and that nobody else was found to be doing it. I would love to bandy that sort of smear nonsense about Bob, but sadly there is no evidence at all of any such widespread nonsense. That's because the heads of all the alliances had an emergency meeting and agreed to pull all their dupe towers down before CCP officially acted, and CCP smacked a small alliance to show they had done something(tm) and then said everything was hunky dory (and allowed the "banned" players to make new accounts, and I know they did because one of the "banned" Players showed his email with both the banned message and a "welcome to Eve Online" email right after it). And I wasn't saying anything specifically about BOB, its just what I personally saw. Everyone of the big Alliances at the time was at it. *shrug* Lawl you got trolled. Did you also get shown a letter in which "the heads of all the alliances" plotted 9/11 and exulted at their success in faking a moon-landing? I was right at the top of the biggest alliance in Eve at that time - not to mention privy to the Bob/Kenzoku/IT inner sanctum forums and I'm telling you that you're only getting more embarrassingly weird on your conspiracy theories as you get older. If there was any suggestion or hint of that at all then we'd have used that to burn everyone. Everyone. Oh wait, no: I'd be in on it too! How deep does this rabbit-hole go? If only people would take the red pill they'd see the truth behind the shadowy mesh of lies* that you are uncovering**. *complete bullshit **making up in your head to ruin yet another fucking Eve thread with your uncanny reverse Midas touch. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on April 19, 2016, 05:17:34 AM Grow the fuck up Endie. Seriously. :oh_i_see:
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on April 19, 2016, 05:24:56 AM So, anything interesting happening on the eve map? I was thinking I might get a Cov ops frig and sniff around the war areas to see can I spot a fight or 2.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on April 19, 2016, 06:35:04 AM Well there's definitely fights, judging by the various Reddit posts. Horde Fleet vs. Karma Fleet (basically the newbies in newbie ships going at each other) seems to be the latest. One guy in a 1.5B officer-fit Loki decided to hot-drop some ratter; tackled him, pushed his cyno button, and called it in, only to discover he was in high-sec when Concord showed up. Fun reading material.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: WayAbvPar on April 19, 2016, 09:34:49 AM Just read about the dead titans (https://www.themittani.com/news/gsf-erebus-nc-leviathan-down) on TheMittani. Probably not the financial hit it was a few years ago, but still. Ow.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on April 19, 2016, 11:53:25 AM Best place to see fights is to hang out in Saranen and watch things die on the station undock. Otherwise, it's really hit or miss when and where combat happens. The majority of the sov work is being done by Australians at the moment.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Slayerik on April 19, 2016, 12:03:48 PM That how people suicide gank these days?
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on April 19, 2016, 12:10:09 PM That how people suicide gank these days? People use Talo's, Catalysts and apparently stealth bombers though those could have just been used for wardecced targets. So, anything interesting happening on the eve map? I was thinking I might get a Cov ops frig and sniff around the war areas to see can I spot a fight or 2. Edit: All of Deklein has been taken but they still hold out in Pure Blind and parts of Fade for the moment. (http://i.imgur.com/AHnaezu.png) Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on April 19, 2016, 01:30:46 PM Stealth bombers work really well, actually. (https://zkillboard.com/kill/53348970/)
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on April 20, 2016, 12:05:51 AM Best place to see fights is to hang out in Saranen and watch things die on the station undock. Thanks, I'll wander over there with popcorn. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Comstar on April 24, 2016, 01:47:12 AM Darius JOHNSTON in the Return of the Goon (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3773367&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1)
Quote What is Eve? It’s a good spaceships game played on the internet you should come play it with us. Who Should You Play It With? I said you should play it with us but we should get to know each other a little more, first. That way we can better understand your needs. Do you love to log in and afk rat for five hours of each evening? Do you want nothing more than to be an anonymous fleet member amidst a thousand others only three of whom even know you exist? Do you live to click a link that makes you a slightly better statistic amidst a sea of management analysis? Did you pay ten dollars just for the privilege of mournfully trudging your way through painstakingly making 50 posts in three months just so you could rat in some space that the dumbasses went and lost anyway? Are you the kind of person who likes needing space support groups to soothe your space nerves? Wrong guys. Alternatively, do you want to be one of a few dozen people roaming around together, probably drunk, because it is fun to be with your friends in space? Do you want to be able to link particularly awful Landsknecht posts in fleet chat and not have 239 people out of 255 find that Lowtax won’t let them read it? Do you want to be space-rich beyond your wildest dreams? Well we can arrange all of these except the last one. This is your chance to be in at the beginning of something new. Something exciting. Something potentially very stupid indeed. Causing quite the kerfuffle on r/Eve right now, along with the SA threads. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: DayDream on April 24, 2016, 03:31:05 AM Wow.
That's actually fucking hilarious. Hah! Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Sir T on April 24, 2016, 08:18:08 AM I went down to Saranen last night, and there was 438 odd in local with a bunch of Goons talking shite. Not much happening to be honest, just a few logistic boosted gangs sitting on the station and the odd cyno field going up. It was all rather boring.
Shockingly I didn't say a word in local. Maturity has finally hit me I guess :ye_gods: Edit I saw this posted on local last night, I don't know anything about the guy referenced but I guess some people might be interested Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on April 25, 2016, 10:28:59 AM https://youtu.be/0bjTrPutt4k
Also all ships not just carrier fighters can be moved like Homeworld, when the expansion is out on Wednesday. Expect bugs galore. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on April 27, 2016, 01:49:26 PM Its a go, and [this is taken froma reddit post] the goon supercapitals are stuck in their staging systems logged off awaiting overloaded drone bays, bubbles, the risk of
being pointed by small ships, someone building a citadel at their log-off point, people monitoring the systems and unable to fit any of the new modules while also having their hp nerfed. Also no more freemoves for players in jump drive ships when they resub. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: ajax34i on April 27, 2016, 01:53:16 PM Can you resize your sov map post above to 800x600 or something, so it's not so wide? Esp. since it's out-of-date now. Reddit has an animated gif somewhere with the sov changes during the war; watch the yellow area shrink to almost nothing in 5 frames, maybe link that.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Kitsune on May 06, 2016, 01:36:28 PM So I still give no fucks about fleet lag battles. I am however curious about whether all this citadel crap is finally implementing dockable stuff in W-space, and I can't find thing one about how these things are built anywhere on CCP's site, past some years-old theoryposts from the devs.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Phildo on May 06, 2016, 02:14:33 PM Not sure about any that have been successfully installed in W-Space, but I know a couple of freighters have been wrecked carrying citadels. A few others in null and lowsec have been destroyed while anchoring and vulnerable.
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on May 08, 2016, 04:03:09 AM Eve 13 anniversary celebrated with fireworks and a capsule skin [though there is bug with the capsule skin atm]. Wish we could still do this (http://i.imgur.com/SDIlyNo.png) Latest Map (http://i.imgur.com/AHnaezu.png) So I still give no fucks about fleet lag battles. I am however curious about whether all this citadel crap is finally implementing dockable stuff in W-space, and I can't find thing one about how these things are built anywhere on CCP's site, past some years-old theoryposts from the devs. Depends what you mean by built but if you mean put it in space, then it must be 1000km from another station, another certain distance from other celestials [asteroid belt for example], which is less than 1000km and not in certain protected systems like Jita, rookie systems for example, otherwise you can put them anywhere. You launch it from cargo, move it around and rotate it it you like, set the vulnerability timers for it and if the outline of the citadel is green emans you can build it there. Takes some time to build after it is built it has a 15 minute [for astrahaus at least] vulnerability timer where it can be destroyed outright and after that an enemy needs to go through the vulnerability timers that you have set to destroy it. You can control it like a immovable ship, give it rigs, market, ew modules etc. Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: Meester on May 08, 2016, 04:12:23 AM Double post
Title: Re: Eve becoming cool again Post by: palmer_eldritch on May 16, 2016, 12:10:31 PM I logged on for a quick fly-around (in Empire space) and found a citadel which I docked in. That was pretty cool.
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