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Title: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on January 23, 2014, 03:00:01 PM
This project has just been funded on Kickstarter:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance
http://kingdomcomerpg.com/

It looks and sounds incredibly ambitious, but yes, still so so far away... :heartbreak:

EDIT: interesting "Why Kickstarter?" section (bold is not mine):

Quote
After seeing our trailer, you might ask: “why are we here? This is a big, expensive game that’s sure to cost a lot of money, right? Does no major publisher want it? This sounds suspicious.” The answer to those questions might surprise you.

Warhorse is a comparatively small studio. We now have about thirty people, and it took us more than eighteen months to develop what you've just seen. All this time, we’ve been funded by a private investor, to the tune of almost 1.5 million dollars in total. We hope the product you’ve seen reflects that.

Our plan was to develop a prototype, pitch it to publishers, and finish development with the subsequent money. We tried to do it that way (and you can read about our experiences on our blog), but in essence, even though everybody we met commended our work, praised our game’s visuals, and believed in our ability to deliver, negotiations would inevitably hit a dead end at the point where the publishers' marketing departments got involved. Why?

"Your game is too niche. There’s no magic. People want wizards and dragons."

We beg to differ. The response from players has always been great. We think gamers like history – look at the success of Total War, Assassin's Creed, Mount and Blade, and Red Dead Redemption. There is no medieval first-person RPG out there, but it does not necessarily follow that nobody wants one - only that there is no easy box for marketing to pigeonhole it in.

Our investor is strong and capable of funding the complete development of our project. But he does not follow the game industry very closely, and needs proof that publishers and marketers are wrong about our game - that you are indeed interested in a mature, medieval RPG that emphasizes freedom and authenticity. And so we stand, as a studio, at a crossroads. Either those naysayers are right, and there truly is no desire for the game we are making, or we are right. Either way, we think Kickstarter is a great way to find out.

The sum we are asking for is about ten percent of our total budget; for our investor, however, it is proof that there is real demand for the game, and that there is a point to keeping it funded. Every extra dollar will allow us to make the final product that much better because it means more money for development and more support from our investor.

Should our Kickstarter campaign fail, it will mean that we were wrong, that there is no interest to play a game with the atmosphere of Braveheart, and that we will have to start considering working on some mobile MMO, because that's where the money is these days (or so everybody tells us). We are, however, positive that our instincts are right.

So help us to make our vision a reality. Help us to make not the 176th free-to-play mobile RPG MMO Elven village-builder with DIAMONDS™, but to make the kind of unique, engaging experience we think you’d like to play


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: KallDrexx on January 23, 2014, 03:06:48 PM
This is the closest I've come to backing a kickstarter.  The team really comes off as sounding like they are for real and have somewhat realistic (although quite ambitious) expectations.

Of course, I have no intention of paying $45 for a game I might be able to play in 2 years but I do hope it gets made.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: schild on January 23, 2014, 03:15:16 PM
This will not remotely be what they're selling. Sorry. Good pitch though.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: Rasix on January 23, 2014, 03:16:30 PM
A shinier Mount* and Blade awaits thee.

Horse combat is a stretch goal.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: schild on January 23, 2014, 05:03:31 PM
Why even have stretch goals if you outright admit the investor just wanted proof of interest.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: Paelos on January 23, 2014, 05:28:24 PM
A mysterious investor appears!


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: Speedy Cerviche on January 23, 2014, 06:48:06 PM
no multiplayer?


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: Yegolev on January 23, 2014, 08:35:51 PM
This project has just been funded on Kickstarter:

STERIODS



Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: satael on January 23, 2014, 09:19:31 PM
While the game in general seems interesting I have developed a more than a slight aversion to "mini-games" and this promises to have many of those (especially in crafting). I'll stick to hoping that M&B II will come out (some day) and that it will be an improvement on warbands.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: Hawkbit on January 23, 2014, 11:49:24 PM
I hope I can be a vassal!


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: Lucas on January 24, 2014, 01:05:42 AM
Why even have stretch goals if you outright admit the investor just wanted proof of interest.

I guess that, given the success of the campaign, now it's just a case of "the more money, the better" for paying salaries and new equipment. So everything counts to achieve that.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: Sky on January 24, 2014, 07:20:58 AM
Why even have stretch goals if you outright admit the investor just wanted proof of interest.
BECAUSE MAGIC


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: KallDrexx on January 24, 2014, 07:32:12 AM
Why even have stretch goals if you outright admit the investor just wanted proof of interest.

I guess that, given the success of the campaign, now it's just a case of "the more money, the better" for paying salaries and new equipment. So everything counts to achieve that.

Everything that I have been reading seems to suggest that the $500k for the KS was going back to the investor to help recoup some of his money before he puts more in, but the agreement the devs have is that everything over the KS goal goes straight to the developer in addition to what the investor has already agreed to put in once the KS passes.  Assuming there are decent contracts around this (which I assume is the case before the investor would have put in the initial 1.5 million) everything the KS raises would be extra money rather than offsetting what the investor puts in.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: schild on January 24, 2014, 08:11:22 AM
What a shit Kickstarter with a bizarre investor. This almost certainly should be against KS ToS.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: Sky on January 24, 2014, 08:18:55 AM
Next on KS: I owe Vinny da Gooch fitty g's.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: schild on January 24, 2014, 08:43:12 AM
Precisely that. I was thinking of kickstarting "clear my credit debt and pay off my car."


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: HaemishM on January 24, 2014, 09:10:22 AM
Hey, if that's what it takes to get a game like this made, I'm ok with it. It's not like I'm going to kickstarter anything.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 24, 2014, 11:34:10 AM
A longer, frank version of the funding situation.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance/posts/728309


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B on steroids?)
Post by: Sky on January 24, 2014, 11:53:19 AM
As much as lolKS this is, the video was well put together and I'm in the minority of folks who was a huge fan of both Mafia titles. Not sure I want to KS it, but I definitely have this high on my radar.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on January 24, 2014, 01:28:26 PM
while waiting for stretch goals and whatnot...Edited the title for more randomness  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Stormwaltz on January 24, 2014, 02:07:51 PM
while waiting for stretch goals and whatnot...

Stretch goals? Stretch goals! (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance/posts/728375)


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on January 24, 2014, 02:35:14 PM
Just for the sake of the KS campaign (which is already successful beyond the funding matter), the two music stretch goals in a row are a bit dull, but who cares, at 600k we get playable female, and that means sex.

Err...Not sure it's that straightforward, but yeah.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on January 24, 2014, 04:07:28 PM
A profile of the mysterious investor appears! (more or less confirmed via the KS comments section)

http://www.forbes.com/profile/zdenek-bakala/


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Sky on January 24, 2014, 07:55:31 PM
All I gotta say is good on that guy for putting money into the kind of games a lot of people want to see but major publishers won't take a risk on.

Maybe they can make an actual no-kill stealth stealing sim game next :)


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on January 27, 2014, 04:27:10 PM
Two updates today (Monday):

- #6 is an expanded FAQ based on the massive amount of questions they got during the last few days. Excerpt:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance/posts/730980

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Sandbox

Many people wonder how much of a sandbox our sandbox is going to be. You will be able to solve quests in multiple ways, kill most of NPCs or influence their day/night cycles. We have a complex system of reputation, relationships and law. You can influence local economy to an extent (price of goods).

The player’s character is going to have a place to stay and live, but you will not be able to buy and sell real estate. Nor you can control other characters. Companions/henchmen have their own AI and they are quest-specific. Your character will develop relationships with NPCs.

Map size

Some people are concerned about our maps size and seem to think that 9 sq. km. is not enough. Please trust us that it is. Our map is bigger than the one in Read Dead Redemption. The population/point-of-interest density is going to be on par with RDR. We want the world to look natural.

Multiplayer

There seems to be demand for multiplayer experience. Unfortunately, Kingdom Come: Deliverance is a singleplayer game only. We are thinking about cooperative multiplayer in some further future, but definitely not for Act I.

The real treat comes with the entertaining update #7, their first video one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAbHmE73p7o

- Bull Terrier!
- in-game locations based on an antique, real world map!
- a former castle and its replacement, both "devastated by 40 years of communist rule"  :why_so_serious:
- Exploring the castle dungeon!
- Here and there, comparisons between the RL location and the game one!


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on February 18, 2014, 02:38:35 AM
Last 58 hours of the campaign: the £900,000 stretch goal is in sight (Tournament mode, which sounds pretty cool).

Character customization (wow, as in...wow!!) :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWQn10s_QJM

Combat video (which may rival the "Chivalry: Medieval Warfare" one):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnKbKkhHXrQ

NPC AI and schedules (everything sounds great, but we'll see how effective, extensive and believable they'll be):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA8rTyIO0xE
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EDIT: Cross-promotion and collaboration betweeen Star Citizen and KC:D:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1294225970/kingdom-come-deliverance/posts/751649

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13577-Kickstarter-Kingdom-Come-Deliverance


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on February 18, 2014, 11:24:27 AM
Livestream of the playable build going on right now on Youtube (I guess we'll also get the recorded version once it's over):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84AiE46erkk

EDIT 1: livestream is over.

EDIT 2: above youtube link works if you want to see it recorded (57:24)


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: KallDrexx on February 18, 2014, 12:41:08 PM
Combat at 37 minutes looks pretty good even though it's very early. 


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Tannhauser on February 19, 2014, 02:46:43 PM
This looks pretty good, going to keep an eye on it.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: WayAbvPar on February 19, 2014, 03:52:04 PM
Going to do some more investigation, but this looks promising and might be worthy of a couple of bucks.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on February 20, 2014, 06:32:38 AM
Five hours or so 'til the end of the campaign; the last couple days have really been on "steriods" when it comes to funding, which surpassed £ 1,000,000. The developers confirmed that pledging should continue on their own website (dunno when) after the KS is over:

http://kingdomcomerpg.com/


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Paelos on February 20, 2014, 06:57:13 AM
I'll buy it if it ever comes to light.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Malakili on February 20, 2014, 07:05:36 AM
I'll buy it if it ever comes to light.

Bingo.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: KallDrexx on February 20, 2014, 07:07:42 AM
I'll buy it when it comes to light for sure.  I doubt it's questionable, hell they have more than Star Citizen does.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Montague on February 20, 2014, 12:10:58 PM
I threw 50 bucks at it. This literally is the game I've always wanted to play, so I'm looking forward to white-knighting (heh) the shit out of this until my dreams are broken on the rocks of pie-in-the-sky naivete, project management incompetence and lack of funding. I'm guessing we end up with a subpar Mount & Blade with bad voice-acting and game-crippling bugs.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Ingmar on February 20, 2014, 12:15:26 PM
I'm hesitant, only because I'm so used to the mechanics of M&B combat that anything that's similar-but-a-little-different is very hard for me to get used to.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Paelos on February 20, 2014, 12:25:03 PM
http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/topic,284936.0.html

In the meantime I recommend yall play this Persino Mod on Warband.

It's basically a new map with tons and tons of factions, big and small. More troop trees, more elite troops, better interface stuff, more options on towns, updated battle landscapes, more items, you can sell prisoners to taverns, flip a coin gambling, random events, and weird mounts.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Bhazrak on February 20, 2014, 12:59:31 PM
Forgot about this, and glad I decided to check it out as there were 20 minutes remaining. Haven't been disappointed in the things I've backed so far on KS, let's hope this one doesn't change that.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on February 13, 2018, 04:02:21 PM
...Hey look! See? Four years passed by in no time, more wrinkles  adorn our pretty faces, and the game is now released  :grin: :ye_gods:
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Anyway, as you probably already read elsewhere, game is pretty demanding and framerate is all over the place: I can personally confirm that (playing at at a 1440p resolution, i5-4690k, GTX 1080 Ti , 16GB RAM) infact I have sudden drops from 60-70 to 30 while strolling around the initial town and during cutscenes. A new patch should come out in about two weeks and supposedly improve performance, beside more bugfixing all over the place. Can't really comment on much else, but I like the tabbed interface and the atmosphere as a whole, as well as the realistic approach they took. I engaged in a fistfight, and...well, no, you are definitely NOT Geralt of Rivia by any means  :grin:

Codex is great: it's basically a history lesson like you're playing a Crusader Kings II campaign in first person  :awesome_for_real:

And yes, current save system plainly sucks, at least for an "unfocused" gamer like me (not to mention sudden breaks you might have to take).



Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Khaldun on February 13, 2018, 05:20:09 PM
I'm seeing that it is absolutely livid with bugs.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Nebu on February 13, 2018, 06:51:36 PM
I'm seeing that it is absolutely livid with bugs.

This.  I almost bought it on Steam today, but everything I've been reading states that it's a great game plagued with technical issues. 


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Ginaz on February 13, 2018, 07:08:46 PM
It also has a ridiculously stupid save game system.  You have to use a potion, which you buy using in game currency, if you want to save wherever/whenever you want.  You can also save by going to bed.  I'm not sure how easy it is to get gold while playing but the potions take up inventory space, which makes it even dumber.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Ceryse on February 13, 2018, 07:15:16 PM
I considered picking it up as well, but decided my computer would likely melt playing it and with the state it is in, from watching various streams, it's better off waiting for a 50% off sale.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Sky on February 14, 2018, 09:55:24 PM
I haven't had time to dig into it, but was miffed by the lack of save, that needs to be patched in. Otherwise, it's just not worth playing for me, I'll never get anywhere!

My main gripe is the dialog...they Anglicized everything. Needlessly. Why did they change his name from Heinrich?? Why change bier to ale? But really, it's my massive peeve of making "historical stuff" equate to "old timey English accent and speech pattern stuff" The fuck, man. I tried to keep English subs with German dialog and it was way better but too tough to follow. But the German dialog is much better. I mean, if they had just done a straight translation with Germanic speech patterns and ACCENTS it probably wouldn't bug me. But why the fuck am I in Bohemia with a bunch of English named folks speaking in English accents? It makes no sense, is distracting, and is something that makes me insane in movies.

The game seemed cool tho.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Tebonas on February 14, 2018, 11:38:56 PM
Yeah, Kickstarted this. But until they patch in a save system I will hold off on installing it. Maybe as a teenager you have the time to play until the game decides to give you a save, but you can't demand this shit from adults.

Edit: Well, I'm at work and can't check if this works, but iI guess it is worth a try.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1300472152 (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1300472152)


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Maledict on February 16, 2018, 11:36:01 AM
Meh, I'm not giving money to a racist nazi. There's enough games available that financially supporting someone like that isn't a priority.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Ginaz on February 16, 2018, 12:41:22 PM
Meh, I'm not giving money to a racist nazi. There's enough games available that financially supporting someone like that isn't a priority.

Huh? :headscratch:  I know the developers got some flak for not including any people of colour in the game, but they were going for a more historically accurate game which kind of means that 99.99999% of the people in Bohemia during that time, where the game is set, were white Europeans.  "But the Moors!!!"  The Moors were in Spain, which is like 2000 km from Bohemia.  Unless you're referring to something else because I can't find anything of him showing support to Nazis.  I saw him arguing with some Russian trolls about Ukraine and they were calling him a fascist and a Nazi but I would hardly use them as the basis to make claims about him.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Falconeer on February 16, 2018, 05:48:21 PM
Search better. The lack of people of colour in the game is not why he is shit.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Ginaz on February 16, 2018, 06:56:26 PM
Search better. The lack of people of colour in the game is not why he is shit.

Upon further examination, I believe you are correct.  His re-Tweets of Donald Trump shit is an indication what type of person he is, and that seems mild compared to some of the other stuff.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Sky on February 16, 2018, 07:56:03 PM
I hate to break it to you guys, but if shitty political views is a deal breaker for stuff, you may as well move to a cabin in Antarctica right now.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Falconeer on February 16, 2018, 08:37:55 PM
You are right, but sometimes it feels more personal. I don't want to vote for this guy, I don't want for him specifically to have my 60$. It doesn't fix anything but as you say nothing means anything anymore at this point, hell even voting barely does it (3 million votes in the last us election that basically did not count), but sometimes it feels more direct: today, I don't want this dick face to have my money.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: schild on February 19, 2018, 07:38:33 AM
I hate to break it to you guys, but if shitty political views is a deal breaker for stuff, you may as well move to a cabin in Antarctica right now.

Bullshit, it's really fucking easy to disavow 30% of the population and any business associated with them.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Sky on February 19, 2018, 07:59:19 AM
I hate to break it to you guys, but if shitty political views is a deal breaker for stuff, you may as well move to a cabin in Antarctica right now.

Bullshit, it's really fucking easy to disavow 30% of the population and any business associated with them.
Since when did you become such an optimist?


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Maledict on February 19, 2018, 11:28:47 AM
I hate to break it to you guys, but if shitty political views is a deal breaker for stuff, you may as well move to a cabin in Antarctica right now.


That's crap used to excuse bullshit decisions people make because they can't be assed taking a stand on anything.

There's a world of difference between someone in a dev team having views I don't agree with (which will happen for every single game), and giving money to the lead designer and spokesperson for a game who is an avowed gamergater and  trump supporter and racist.

I know gamers find the notion of not buying something they want impossible to comprehend, but in reality my life isn't going to suffer hugely by not giving this racist shit my money.


EDIT: Just as a highlight, it shows how terrible the games industry still is over these issues. IF this guy had tried to make a film, or a TV programme, or a song about this stuff, it would have been blocked by every major publisher and distributor. No-one would touch it with a bargepole. Yet I log into Steam and it's the promoted game of the day.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Trippy on February 19, 2018, 11:32:53 AM
There are way more games that I want to play than I'll ever have time for. I'm fine with not buying certain games, even if they are good (which this one doesn't seem to be), cause reasons.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Gimfain on February 19, 2018, 12:21:55 PM
No idea what he said and too lazy to look up why I should be upset over what someone said over the internet. If you are so upset over what he said just grab a torrent and send the $60 to charity.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: HaemishM on February 19, 2018, 12:42:53 PM
I Googled it and here's what I found.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/waypoint-we-havent-covered-kingdom-come-deliverance-lets-talk-about-why.24062/ (https://www.resetera.com/threads/waypoint-we-havent-covered-kingdom-come-deliverance-lets-talk-about-why.24062/)

I'm ok with ignoring his game now.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: schild on February 19, 2018, 02:28:41 PM
No idea what he said and too lazy to look up why I should be upset over what someone said over the internet. If you are so upset over what he said just grab a torrent and send the $60 to charity.

Or grab a torrent and email Gabe about lax curation and his promotion of this little piece of shit.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Sheepherder on February 19, 2018, 11:34:18 PM
Or grab a torrent and email Gabe about lax curation and his promotion of this little piece of shit.

Supposedly the intro / tutorial sequence is like five hours long.  I just thought I should include that, for your benefit.

Also, it's amusing that everyone seems to think this game is realistic.  I'd like to point out that the Bohemian idea of what warfare should look like in this period was some medieval Mad Max shit involving armoured wagons and hand cannons.  Whereas this game doesn't even have crossbows, and apparently spears can only be looted off of bandits.  Apparently medieval Bohemia skipped straight past knife-on-a-stick technology.


(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Wagenburg.jpg)


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Sky on February 20, 2018, 11:53:08 AM
I hate to break it to you guys, but if shitty political views is a deal breaker for stuff, you may as well move to a cabin in Antarctica right now.


That's crap used to excuse bullshit decisions people make because they can't be assed taking a stand on anything.

There's a world of difference between someone in a dev team having views I don't agree with (which will happen for every single game), and giving money to the lead designer and spokesperson for a game who is an avowed gamergater and  trump supporter and racist.

I know gamers find the notion of not buying something they want impossible to comprehend, but in reality my life isn't going to suffer hugely by not giving this racist shit my money.


EDIT: Just as a highlight, it shows how terrible the games industry still is over these issues. IF this guy had tried to make a film, or a TV programme, or a song about this stuff, it would have been blocked by every major publisher and distributor. No-one would touch it with a bargepole. Yet I log into Steam and it's the promoted game of the day.
If I found out notch was eating babies in his basement I would still play the fuck out of minecraft. Just so you know where I stand.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Falconeer on February 20, 2018, 12:12:55 PM
Yeah, but if you found out before you buy it, would you still buy it?


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: schild on February 20, 2018, 01:57:13 PM
I hate to break it to you guys, but if shitty political views is a deal breaker for stuff, you may as well move to a cabin in Antarctica right now.


That's crap used to excuse bullshit decisions people make because they can't be assed taking a stand on anything.

There's a world of difference between someone in a dev team having views I don't agree with (which will happen for every single game), and giving money to the lead designer and spokesperson for a game who is an avowed gamergater and  trump supporter and racist.

I know gamers find the notion of not buying something they want impossible to comprehend, but in reality my life isn't going to suffer hugely by not giving this racist shit my money.


EDIT: Just as a highlight, it shows how terrible the games industry still is over these issues. IF this guy had tried to make a film, or a TV programme, or a song about this stuff, it would have been blocked by every major publisher and distributor. No-one would touch it with a bargepole. Yet I log into Steam and it's the promoted game of the day.
If I found out notch was eating babies in his basement I would still play the fuck out of minecraft. Just so you know where I stand.

to be fair, Notch is actually a giant fucking piece of shit and I'm not just calling him a fatty

he's an awful human


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Sky on February 20, 2018, 01:57:28 PM
Hell yes. And suggest scientists look into how baby-eating led to such an amazing inspiration.

Also, like...is he eating sustainably farmed babies or whatnot.

Anyway, I'm hoping there is a save game patch at some point and a few bug patches before launching into this. I could use the workaround, but I'm playing the game developed by the baby-eater right now.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Sky on February 20, 2018, 01:57:49 PM
Sorry, ALLEGED baby-eater.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: schild on February 20, 2018, 01:57:57 PM
like, if you're a public person, just don't be on twitter

or make sure you're not a big retard before you get on twitter

it's that easy


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Sky on February 21, 2018, 12:49:40 PM
So the save thing is happening. Too bad it's not a savescum version  :why_so_serious: But still, makes it playable for me. Probably after a point update to fix it, but still.

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Patch 1.3 - (upcoming)

This is the patch we are currently working on. It hasn’t been released on any platform yet. It’s mainly focused on bug-fixing as we are studiously going through every player report, watching every stream we can and fixing all the bugs as fast as possible. But apart from these fixes, we are working on the following features: (Which is not guaranteed for delivery in this patch )
Save and Exit functionality
Lockpicking minigame controls improvement on controllers
Pickpocket minigame improvement
Alchemy recipe for respec potion
Many quest-related bug fixes

http://steamcommunity.com/games/379430/announcements/detail/2484169392197739653


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: rk47 on February 22, 2018, 09:10:25 PM
did they patch the racism out  :why_so_serious: i wanna stay on my higher horses while playing vidya game.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Yegolev on February 27, 2018, 03:49:03 PM
I was in Bohemia last week and I saw some blacks and asians.  They were all Americans, but still.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: rk47 on March 01, 2018, 04:17:33 AM
Which year did you go to? 1402? 1403? or 1404?
Take a pic so you can shit on Vavra.



Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Yegolev on March 01, 2018, 05:22:10 AM
I'm pretty sure it was 1947.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Khaldun on March 01, 2018, 07:04:12 PM
So marvelous to see people who consistently champion rigorous and exclusive historical accuracy in videogames putting their feet down so that the thing they always value most in a game is consistently defended.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Teleku on March 01, 2018, 11:57:48 PM
did they patch the racism out  :why_so_serious: i wanna stay on my higher horses while playing vidya game.
So, when are you going to do a Radicalthon of this game where you've modded it to play as a visiting Korean Merchant?   :grin:


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Sky on March 03, 2018, 08:09:23 AM
did they patch the racism out  :why_so_serious: i wanna stay on my higher horses while playing vidya game.
So, when are you going to do a Radicalthon of this game where you've modded it to play as a visiting Korean Merchant?   :grin:
(https://media.giphy.com/media/l0HlLmkS4zZuW9p16/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on March 04, 2018, 12:36:41 PM
As seen on the dedicated thread over at RPG Codex  :awesome_for_real: :why_so_serious:

(https://i.imgur.com/D8jwAcj.jpg)


rk47, we're eagerly waiting for you  :drill:


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on March 09, 2018, 12:01:04 PM
New, 5.7GB patch is out:

http://steamcommunity.com/games/379430/announcements/detail/1673523270493660881

1.4 is already in the works, mainly aimed at performance on PCs (although they already included some performance tweaks in 1.3, as you can see in the notes).


EDIT: new link with more specific notes.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Sky on March 09, 2018, 12:34:09 PM
Save patch, looks like it's time to start playing for me.

edit: though I still have my dilemma that I prefer the Deutsch voice work by a large margin.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on March 09, 2018, 12:38:23 PM
Save patch, looks like it's time to start playing for me.

edit: though I still have my dilemma that I prefer the Deutsch voice work by a large margin.

I'll give deutsch dubbing a try: on release, I think voice and subtitles were a little off. After all, I played both Witcher 2 and 3 with polish VOs.


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Rasix on March 09, 2018, 12:38:43 PM
Is that just a save and exit or can you now just save anytime?


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Lucas on March 09, 2018, 12:49:50 PM
Is that just a save and exit or can you now just save anytime?

Just Save & Exit ("hardcore"/annoying "schnapps" method is still in, of course).


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Rake on March 15, 2018, 05:47:24 PM
The game fully supports Mods, so use this and you are good to go anytime without even using any Schnapps.

https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomcomedeliverance/mods/1 (https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomcomedeliverance/mods/1)


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Severian on October 03, 2018, 04:17:18 PM
On sale at GOG for $25 with Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun and Battle Chasers: Nightwar along for the ride. The bundle is called "10th Anniversary Collection III: The Modern Classics" but the theme is clearly colons.

https://www.gog.com/game/collection_iii


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: schild on October 03, 2018, 05:07:34 PM
no one is going to call any of those classics


Title: Re: Kingdom Come: Deliverance (M&B meets Skyrim and OMG steriods)
Post by: Khaldun on October 04, 2018, 04:52:06 AM
I was going to say. "The Modern Meh"