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Bogut already hurt himself, of course.

That was one of the worst drafts in the history of the NBA, though.  You have to remember that.  There was maybe one or two quality guys in the entire first round. 

That was one of the worst drafts in the history of the NBA, though.  You have to remember that.  There was maybe one or two quality guys in the entire first round. 

There are two cities where winning is basically irrelevant to attendance in professional sports. Boston and Chicago.

For everyone else it matters, but in combination with other factors like star players, the community, the weather, and pricing.

They do have enough for a max deal next season.

Fucking hell, Miami is good. 

With the looming possibility of Carmelo Anthony departing New York as a free agent this summer, New York Knicks officials have discussed proposing a trade to the Los Angeles Clippers for Blake Griffin, according to league sources.

Sources say Clippers management has also had internal discussions about such a deal but that the clubs have not yet spoken to one another about a potential trade.

So yeah, Hawks won a game. Um, how is Indy this bad?

(http://i.imgur.com/5YovKN3.jpg)

Now we begin the long ridiculous journey of the first round that takes a month. Why? The Hawks played on Saturday, they don't play again until Tuesday. We need a 3 day layoff when they don't even leave town? And yet, when they do change cities, they play on 2 days rest. The fuck? How does that make any sense at all. It should be reversed.

Clippers are a dead team walking.  All that work to become championship calibre?  Yah, flush it down the toilet.

VS: I wish I could change the skin. The color of my skin
DS: That isn't the issue. You've missed the issue.
VS: What's the issue?
DS: The issue is we don't have to broadcast everything.
VS: I'm not broadcasting anything. I don't do anything wrong.

DS: Why are you taking pictures with minorities... why?
The conversation centered around a now-deleted photo that Stiviano put on Instagram of herself and Magic Johnson (pictured)
The conversation centered around a now-deleted photo that Stiviano put on Instagram of herself and Magic Johnson (pictured)
VS: What's wrong with minorities? What's wrong with black people?
DS: Nothing, nothing, nothing.
VS: What's wrong with Hispanics?
DS: It's like talking to an enemy. There's nothing wrong with minorities, they're fabulous. Fabulous. Because you're an enemy to me.
VS: Why?
DS: Because you don't understand.
VS: I don't understand what?
DS: Nothing, nothing.
VS: That racism still is a lie?
DS: No but there's a culture.
VS: What culture?
DS: People feel certain things. Hispanics feel certain things towards blacks. Blacks feel certain things towards other groups. It's been that way historically and it will always be that way.
VS: But it's not that way in my heart and in my mind.
DS: But maybe you want to adjust to the world.

DS: Yea it bothers me a lot that you want to broadcast that you're associated with black people. Do you have to?
VS: You associate with black people.
DS: I'm not you and you're not me. You're supposed to be a delicate white or a delicate Latina girl.
VS: I'm a mixed girl.
DS: Ok well.
VS: And you're in love with me. And I'm black and Mexican. Whether you like it or not. Whether the world accepts it or not. And you're asking me to remove.... you want me to have hate towards black people?
DS: I don't want you to have hate. That's what people do- they turn things around. I want you to love them- privately. In your whole life, everyday you can be with them. Every single day of your life.
VS: But not in public?
DS: But why publicize it on the Instagram and why bring it to my games?
Recorded: A call between Sterling and his girlfriend was released and he is heard making racist assertions
Recorded: A call between Sterling and his girlfriend was released and he is heard making racist assertions

VS: I can't believe that a man who's educated, a man who's a scholar, a man...
DS: Well believe it, and stop talking about it. Let's finish our discussion with a period, ok?

VS: I took a picture with someone I admire (Magic Johnson).
DS: Good
VS: He happens to be black, and I'm sorry.
DS: I think the fact that you admire him- I've known him well, and he should be admired. And I'm just saying that it's too bad you can't just admire him privately, and during your entire f****** life, your whole life- admire him, bring him here, feed him, f*** him, I don't care. You can do anything. But don't put him on an Instagram for the world to have to see so they have to call me. And don't bring him to my games, OK?

Am i a horrible person for thinking it makes it super extra racist that he is complaining about Magic Johnson and not some random black dude?

“We have heard the tape on TMZ. We do not know if it is legitimate or it has been altered. We do know that the woman on the tape -- who we believe released it to TMZ -- is the defendant in a lawsuit brought by the Sterling family alleging that she embezzled more than $1.8 million, who told Mr. Sterling that she would 'get even.' Mr. Sterling is emphatic that what is reflected on that recording is not consistent with, nor does it reflect his views, beliefs or feelings. It is the antithesis of who he is, what he believes and how he has lived his life. He feels terrible that such sentiments are being attributed to him and apologizes to anyone who might have been hurt by them.

 :awesome_for_real:  Woman scorned and all that.

Even funnier he made his wife show up to the game. So not only is he not man enough to take the hit in public, he sends the woman he cheated on to face the inevitable questions about what his mistress put on tape.

But did Mrs. Sterling threaten divorce? Nope, she sued the mistress for community property. I mean this is only the kind of crazy you see in the uber-rich.

Not weird for me... maybe because I come from the South. Old racists really like the idea of their strange being a little dark. Probably got something to do with the power trip they can't get because one can't be a slaveowner anymore.  :uhrr: I wish I was kidding, but I'm afraid that's probably closer to the truth than anyone would care to admit.

Not weird for me... maybe because I come from the South. Old racists really like the idea of their strange being a little dark. Probably got something to do with the power trip they can't get because one can't be a slaveowner anymore.  :uhrr: I wish I was kidding, but I'm afraid that's probably closer to the truth than anyone would care to admit.

Not weird for me... maybe because I come from the South. Old racists really like the idea of their strange being a little dark. Probably got something to do with the power trip they can't get because one can't be a slaveowner anymore.  :uhrr: I wish I was kidding, but I'm afraid that's probably closer to the truth than anyone would care to admit.

 :psyduck:

I'd say its more to do with the extra pleasure they get from feeling guilty.

Just listened to the whole Deadspin recording. FUCK. ME.

And he'll likely make >$500 million from doing so :awesome_for_real: :oh_i_see:

Adam Silver said the owners can force him to sell with a 3/4ths vote, which it seems like they have.

Yup.

Good for Silver. Not much else he could really do, but I am sure the Satanic turd he replaced would have done far less, taken far longer, and been far smugger about it at every turn.

How many owners if we taped them talking about race would have similar issues? I'm betting more than half.

I'm never going to lambast someone for protecting their own money from a racist idiot. Walking away only voids their contracts.

It's easy when you're guy on the internet with no stake. It's another thing when you're about to give up $10M to make a stand against a guy who didn't do anything criminally wrong. I don't think it's worth it at all. I'd wait for the NBA to do what it's doing, and go on about my business.

Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits employers from fining individuals for opposing discrimination. NBA contracts can also not "contract around" civil rights protections, meaning NBA players who boycott games over an owners' racism may be protected under the law.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/news/20140426/donald-sterling-la-clippers-adam-silver-nba/#ixzz30JfGDA7M

No stake?  I left my last job partly for similar reasons.  And I left myself w/o a pot to piss in; and it was far from well paying.   Prior to that I had a job for 8+ yrs wherein I was woefully underpaid for similar reasons and had to "quit" ala Elgin Baylor in order to get some semblance of restitution.   Those guys (Clippers) will be just fine (they've been paid for their season already), and likely gain endorsements and better contracts from their actions.... yet they stayed.  Their contracts??  Moot points for a soon-to-be-defunct owner.

Also, realize this.  Sterling now has all the leverage because he will likely be forced to sell.  Which means he'll get the highest bidder and max value for his team... the same team that decided it was smart to not walk away.  Sources say now even, that Sterling has no intention of even selling.

Had they walked, his team would have little value and Sterling would be forced to sell regardless... the same players likely getting picked up by the next regime.

Their current contracts mean absolutely jack and shit except to appease the current owner.  All those contracts would have to be re-written under a new one anyways and the NBA likely would render them currently void regardless.

You can try as you might to convince me otherwise, but I still firmly believe, given all the relevant facts, that a team lockout would've been the smartest option.  Guys like Sterling and leagues like the NBA only get the hint when you quit.  Anything else only serves to line their smug pockets.

No, it satisfies nothing but Donald Sterling.  He's still a racist and will now be rewarded handsomely for it.  This time next year you'll find him hiding in a phat penthouse in Tel Aviv so his kin can avoid the estate tax from the billion+ dollar sale of his slave-team.  Satisfied?  Lolz.

I fail to even see how this man was even penalized.  The paltry fine he got doesn't even dent the profits he'll make from the playoffs alone.  And the forced sale of a complete hall-of-fame level team just jacks up the price.  Shit, I wouldn't doubt if he orchestrated the whole thing on purpose.

Let's get this out of the way.  He does not own the team, he owns the Clippers.  There is a difference.

In related news, Harry Reid is asking Dan Snyder to rename his team.

There is all kinds of other pressure though.  Doc Rivers will quit if he is the owner next year, or so he says.  Tons of sponsors have pulled out.  If he remains owner, I think we might seem players refusing to play.  There is more than just a legal battle going on.

However, this ought to be a fucking lesson to billionaire shitheads. Stop fucking gold digging bitches young enough to be your fucking granddaughter. Bitches be crazy. You never know what they are going to do and you won't always like it.  :why_so_serious:

Then what's the point of being a billionaire shithead? The problem here wasn't the gold digger, it was the wife who went after her to try to get the money back and put her into revenge mode.  You can't sue the poor girl after she's had to deal with his wrinkly old man balls, i don't care how many millions she took him for, they were well earned.

and nobody has won twice in a five year stretch.

The odds of Cleveland actually winning 3 years given the percentages is something like .007 percent.

At what point of ridiculous odds do you not question what's going on here?

EDIT: My problem with the draft is the appearance. The NBA already has had scandals of rigging in the past with the refs. The league itself holds this thing behind closed doors for literally no reason at all. None. There is no viable purpose for hiding the draft other than confusing the issue.

Another site saying the odds of this happening at 1 in 8 million. It's just absurd.

You guys think the NBA needs to further help the Lakers and Celtics? Those franchises will draw no matter what, and have the money to fix whatever problems they encounter.

Teams like Boston, Chicago, LA, New York they don't struggle to fill the stands, put eyeballs on the TV, or draw attention. Even when losing. The Lakers were hot garbage this year and still finished 8th in attendance.

Cleveland is in a market that will show up for a product, and that can be nationally interesting. They are centered in an area of the country that loves basketball. The NBA has been trying to make them attractive for free agents for the last few years to correct the LeBron issue. You're talking about a city that would fall over itself to hand the NBA money if they are remotely relevant.

People went to jail for rigging games for themselves, not on behalf of the NBA.

You really think all the other owners would be on board with picking out 1 owner and showering them with extra help?

The shit with the Chris Paul trade - that's fertile ground for suspecting people were fucking around with things. The lottery just doesn't have a smoking gun at all.

He's 29 years old, it's way too early to draw conclusions on that sort of thing. I'm also not sure I'd say any of the teams Jordan faced in the finals were of San Antonio's caliber - they're just absurdly deep and well-coached - and Jordan had a better second banana in Scottie Pippen than LeBron has had in Dwayne Wade (late career version).

I mean I'm not going to say LeBron is better at this point, but the argument is a long, long way from over.

I don't agree at all with your assessment of Jordan's teammates. Scottie Pippen was a better player than either Wade or Bosh, IMO, and it sounds to me like you're significantly underrating Horace Grant and Dennis Rodman.

We are talking about the same MJ who was swept out of the playoffs multiple times, lost to the same team three years in a row and quit basketball twice?

It was his mindset that he wasn't going to fail if there was any damned thing he could do about it.  I don't see that in Lebron.

So I guess the draft for this is going on right now or something.  You can tell how much this board is in to the NBA by hype in this thread.

So he is headed back to Cleveland.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24616046/lebron-james-announces-return-to-cleveland-cavaliers

I'm a little surprised. I believe he would have gotten more money in Miami plus an already proven team. I guess if he wins in Cleveland, they will erect statues of him.

Wait, so the team that LeBron publicly humiliated in front of millions with his 'The Decision' shit will take him back?

Wow

Fans/ESPN will eat this shit up. They will love him more than before he left. Prodigal son and all that. Lebron is smart, he has played this perfectly. He will make even more from endorsements than he would have if he'd stayed in Miami.

"I ain't pumped up. I've just got a lot on my mind," he told reporters. "The crazy thing about it is, I've just got a question for y'all: How you gonna stop God's plan? How you gonna do that? How you gonna do that? That's all I want to know. How you gonna stop God's plan?

"Man, this city done put me through so much, and I stayed loyal to it the whole time. Hey, I just wanna know, how you gonna stop God's plan? God gives his hardest battles to his strongest soldiers. The marathon continues. I'm out."