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Reactivated my account just a few minutes ago. after a year or more of irl drama with the courts and my ex. finally got to a point where I can play again though i'm guessing my daughter is going to make it slightly harder than when I was single and lived alone. so who do I go through to get accepted back into Bat country? I sent an app when a leader is able.

As long as you put your API data in, it should go through in a day or so.  I'll poke a director next time one wakes up.

So you got custody of your daughter? Congrats. From what you were saying back in 2011, that all sounded like a pretty horrible situation. Sounds like you got the best result though, even though I'm sure it isn't easy.

yeah it was a big hassle getting her out of srs custody and the court bs about a year and a half of work , not to mention the $ but yeah it was $ well spent.

Well its been a couple days since my application with my api info has been sent to bat country, was wondering if i can get some one to check on that or who would i need to send a message to in game?

I just mentioned it in jabber, I'll follow up tomorrow after work.

yeah if you could check on that after you get off work that would be great i'd appricate it man.

Good to go,thx for the help all. now to set up every thing else oh what fun.... :roll:

Don't worry, all this work is your hobby, and you are paying to do it.  :awesome_for_real:

So reactivated my account, Too.  Floating around aimlessly.  Wondering if I can hang out with you guys again while I get my spacelegs back.  I sent in an app.

-Trogdor D'Burninator

Yeah, just noticed a familiarly awesome name in the app list. I'll give you a rundown on what's going on when I have time.

Cool cool. I'm just relearning what all the buttons do. No rush. I'm old and patient now.  :grin:

The new SOE ships look pretty nice.

SOE bought ccp?  Wow I

Oh wait I just googled that, okay then.

I just finished leveling my SOE LP for probes and launcher on my Buzzard and this is nice to see.  Tad disappointing it's faction based.  Dunno as an all missile Caldari what I would get out of it.  Keep training for my Tengu in the meanwhile maybe.

The worth of your SOE LP doubled.

I'm weak. I reactivated.

Since this asshole abandoned me in WOT, I had to activate as well. Gonna run with Goons proper this time around (at least I hope so).

We're playing tanks too, btw.

Giving away your account really helps kill the temptation to go back  :grin:

I saw Himo logging off yesterday  :grin:

So who else is still playing? I see like 3 names in Bat Country that I recognize.

No one everyone is waiting for Star Citize-hahahahahaha!

I'm still playing - although I just log in to change skills right now. There's not much going on although I might move over to curse if I can get over the :effort:.

So how is Eve itself going? any interesting additions from CCP or player activity going on?

Salvager drones and deployable fittings and tractor beams.

Tell me more about tractor beams; are these different than the module you can use to pull loot cans closer?

Is low-sec pirating still viable in cheap ships or is everyone flying advanced ships?

You drop a module out of your cargo hold and it pulls in stuff within a 125KM radius.

Also for anyone that wants to try out EVE:
https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=2479e0d1-2120-48bd-b7bf-5d2c33ab6310&action=buddy (https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=2479e0d1-2120-48bd-b7bf-5d2c33ab6310&action=buddy)

Well tiericide has helped to even up the odds regarding t1 ships.

one of the reasons I quit was I was doing drone-boat Gallente stuff and drones got, well, kinda useless after a point. At least as best I could tell. I was kinda training up recon and interdictor stuff for scouting stuff for the fleet when we were a bit more active.

I do enjoy looting the crap out of things, though. And salvaging.

Having to come back after a mission in a destroyer fitted to the gills with tractor beams and salvagers and spending AGES sucking it all in was annoying. Do these salvager drones and tractor pod things help with that? And what's a 'deployable fitting'?

As near as I can figure out, they're things that can be anchored at arbitrary points (like secure cans) but actually do things (first versions appear to be deployable mini-stations with storage space and refitting services and siphons that can divert moon minerals).

--Dave

They also introduced the Noctis Salvage ship. It has like 60% faster times the range and speed and velocity on tractor beams. And something for salvagers too.

Salvaging is good money. Better than ratting, but more effort.

Low-sec PvP in cheap ships is totally viable since we got our asses handed to us plenty of times by Tech I duders when we as a corp were there just a bit ago.

Like I'm sitting in this old near empty low-sec system we used to stage out of and "gf" keeps getting typed into Local chat, so there's definitely low-sec PvP going on all the time.

I'm in suicide ganker central. Always funny to see 64 killed in past hour in a .6 system.

And no one has swatted your Stratios yet? Have you even been scanned?

We had some nutjob bounce through goonspace this morning advertising an ISK lottery. Was pretty amusing.

No. Industrial ganks headed into hits.

If you are looking for GF's non-stop you could also look at Red-vs-Blue. The two corps are in a constant state of war since 2009 or something. You take a frig and join a few friends and kill the other corp. It's a little mindless, but constant action.

I've just started playing again. Ran my carebear alts through L4s and got a hankering to PvP again. Is Bat Country still around/part of GF or should I try my luck at a GF application even though I'm a rare-poster?

The game looks a lot better now.

It always did look at low level in the midst of empire.

Eve online. the game that looks better the more you don't play it :D

I know, right?  Even I'm getting the itch, but then I keep applying my "do you REALLY want to spend 30 minutes chunks of time in just getting from one place to another, jump after jump after jump after jump" itch cream.   :why_so_serious:

Spend a couple of weeks cranking up your post count. They want SA community members, not people who are willing to pay $10 for a forum account so they can get into GS.


Also- travel times are much quicker now, especially in small ships.

Cheers Way, will do. I just find that other people post what I want to say so I don't bother :D

Find a subject your are passionate about and/or knowledgeable about and there is almost always a thread. Sports, TV, movies, games other than EVE, politics, current events...and that is just the few parts of the forum I check.

Goddamn it, now I have the itch to reactivate again.

Probably doesn't help that a co-worker at my part-time job plays pretty regularly.  Maybe a RL hookup will keep me better retained  :why_so_serious:

Yeah, I'll be honest so do I, but the thought of not having the super account with all the skills trained up and a billion or so in the bank cools my heels.

Did Factional Warfare ever become a "thing"?  TBH, null-sec space is too intimidating to me, but FW sounds like something I could handle that would give me a purpose.

Faction Warfare became tier2 frigates farming npc nodes or something. The actual factional warfare stopped working pretty fast because there are 10x as many Space Fascists as there are Space Sluts and they got their asses handed to them.

The Space Slavers vs Space Slaves RP war should probably still be going on though.

Ok, so I basically had one of these moments:

(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/215171137_4Fu8V-L-2.jpg)

I just suddenly had to play an MMO again.  I thought about the usual suspects, but decided to go back to something I hadn't touched in a long while.  So I reactivated my eve account.  Looks like I haven't logged in since 2010, back when we still controlled Delve in Goonswarm as a member of LOVEU.  Weeee.

What the fuck is going on.  I'm walking around in stations (no more spinning ships while I wait!?), have apparently 1.5 million SP's to apply to something for some reason I have no idea, and umm, there's lots of new shit.  Have they added any new ships worth perusing in the last four years?  Are Ravens still best for running missions?  I seem to be in a station with a Dominix and a Teir 2 Caldari recon ship.    I have no idea what I was doing.  My character is at about 50 Million SP, with tons of gunnary and other weapon skills maxed, and able to fly most Caldari, Gallante, and Minmatar ships.  What exactly is new?  Have they made things (like exploration, which I use to do quite a bit) better?

I guess I'll......grind missions!  Whats best for that now?  

Hmm, I should have thought this out more maybe before resubscribing...

Edit:  Also I have all sorts of sad/hilarious messages in my mailbox for 2010 as everything collapsed corp wise.  Sorry I didn't respond guys!   :why_so_serious:  So much nostalgia in there right now....

Edit2:  Also, i see now that ship spinning is alive and well.  All is good in the universe.

The SP's are because they got rid of Learning skills and just maxed out everyone's training speed.  You can remap your attributes and/or add implants to match whatever skills you're training (int/mem vs. per/wil), but you're otherwise gaining SPs as if you had max learning across the board.

They've also reduced the requirements for a lot of ships and modules, training skills to 5 is often not needed anymore.  They've standardized the skill prerequisites for ships, which is why you're suddenly compatible to fly a million of them, meaning yeah sure you can take the thing out of the hangar, but if you don't train the gunnery prerequisites, it won't be armed, and if you don't train the science/mechanic/engineering you won't be able to actually jump your jump-freighter or go into siege with your dread etc.

They've added the ability to stand and walk in a room, and the game starts with it enabled by default, but you can go back to spinning ships (it loads faster), from the preferences menu.  The plan was for fully fleshed out avatar capabilities, but they decided to make a whole different game out of it (DUST 514), rather than code more than a room, as part of EVE.

They've revamped most of the Tech 1 ships for more performance for those basic hulls.  Tech 2 ships are mostly the same, specialized hulls for specialized tasks.  T3 ships are modular / specialized / expensive.  You can get a lot of killing power from the basic hulls with T2 weapons and modules installed, which makes it nicer for the new characters that haven't had the time to train 60 million SPs to fly the T2 or T3 hulls.

They've tuned some of the weapon systems, but I don't know the details of what exactly.  Missiles are still ok, the various guns are still ok, drones get attacked by the NPCs now, so may be not ok.

They've changed the warp speed of most ships so that the fast small ships (frigates, interceptors) can actually warp AFTER some big target but arrive BEFORE it at the next gate and thus actually intercept it.

They've added wormhole space (2000 star systems) and tied finding the wormholes with the scanning / probing and exploration systems.  There are PVE objectives in there at the "raid" level, and the lack of a list of people in local makes the PVP a lot more reliant on surprise and being probed out (lack of local is only in wormhole space).  People have deployed POSes in there but the logistics is hard, as the entrances and exits to each star system shift somewhat randomly and must be probed out.

They've changed the militia warfare thing in lowsec; they wanted more PVP less grinding vs. NPCs to achieve objectives, and there was a spike of interest but Caldari being the most popular race had way more people than everyone else so they eventually won all areas.

They're now adding solo deployable bunkers and moon goo siphon units, to allow solo people to intrude and harass nullsec alliance space (in theory).

Drones are the new hotness. Train all your drone skills and get into T2 heavies and sentries. In your Domi you can semi-afk rat in the anomalies you should see on your scanner when you leave the station and make decent isk (if you need it). Many fleet doctrines are currently drone-centric as well. Ishtars and Tengus seem to be favorites for running high level rat escalations and/or missions as well.

If you are still in Delve, it is blue to goons still (although we don't actually live there). If you have an active SA account you can probably get into goons right away. If you don't, you will probably get shot.

If you want to fuck off for high sec (or anywhere else), you can petition a GM to move your character and your active ship to any station you ask (as a favor to returning players). Pack as much shit as you can in your biggest ship and sell the rest.

And if you want to get back into Bat Country, I'll poke someone who's still active about it.

Hmm, ok.  I already have a lot of my drone skills trained up.  Just need to train to level 4 specializations for the T2 heavies (got most of them at 2 or 3).  Though with my 1.5 million SP to just throw around, looks like I can get that instantly if I want.  Though I'm still torn on what to do with all that, haha.  I could instantly train Capital Ship V right now if I wanted with it, but not sure if I should even bother...

Not in Delve (I've had a SA account since 2004, but I barely ever use it, heh), looks like I did come back and evac or something.  All my shit is (mostly) out.  I just jumped up to where it looks like I left most of my active 0.0 ships, which were a Raven, a Hurricane, and two Hulks.  Up in Liparer (.4 sec) for some reason I have no idea, will probably have to move this shit over to non low-sec for the time being.  Though, ummmm, did they nerf Hulks?  My hull has about 5,000 m3 worth of shit I evaced with me, but I only actually have 350 m3 of capacity.  Wont let me leave the station saying I managed to overload my cargo bay somehow...
Hmm, maybe.  I think I'll stay in high sec for a bit to get the hang of things again.  This also could just be a really short phase on my part, and I'll stop playing in another day for to.  I'll go start killing some rats just to see.

Though where the hell are we hanging out these days?

Goonswarm is based out of Deklein, but just got done, or is in the process of finishing up, conquering Immensea.

Nice.  Maybe I will come join in a bit.  I know before (again, back in 2010) I was skilled up to fly a GoonFleet designated Rokh build.  That still useful, or are there other sorts of ships more in demand right now for fleet action/PvP?

All the guides seem to be saying I should be using T2 Sentry drones for everything.  Like, for missions and PvP it seems.  Is that true?  Any reason to level up to T2 Heavy drones?

Right now the subcap fleets are usually Dominixs with T2 sentries, or Harpys. I think we might be going back to Apocs and Megas when the drone assist nerf hits though.

Hmm, ok.  I think I can fly a fleet Mega as well.  Err, do you mind posting or messaging me what the Goonfleet wiki currently has listed as the best Dominix drone boat fitting/layout?  Goggling gives me hundreds of different forum idiots slap fighting over each others builds, and many of the posts are from years ago.

Started a fresh Gallente.  Good lord, so many improvements to QoL  :awesome_for_real:  I mean, I'm still going through the career agents, but I've already got a basic Atron fitted with the essential tackle gear and the skills to use them, and I'm only on day 4.

The first week is always the best, where you're training a dozen new skills every day.

Did you get one of the packages with the training enhancer or whatever that gives a huge bonus to your traits for the first two weeks? I have been sorely tempted to start yet another account just for one of those. I need a high sec gank alt anyway...

I did not.  But I've played off and on since beta, and the removal of the Learning skills and just maxing everyone's speed is  :awesome_for_real:

http://www.amazon.com/EVE-Online-Starter-Minmatar-Dealer/dp/B00GP177O0/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1393025846&sr=8-9&keywords=eve+online

There are 4 or 5 packs. Amazon had them on sale for like $1 around the holidays and I never got around to stockpiling a few.


That is the the goods. Something like +17 to your attributes for 2 weeks or something insane.

lol, of course I miss the deal after I throw $15 bucks at them just to reactivate  :uhrr:

Ah well.  We press on!

Ok, I think I'm ready.  I thought I'd screw around a bit in Hi-sec, but god this sucks.  Did some missions but got boring quick.  When I quite a few years ago, I'd just gotten the ability to fly a freighter (well, back when it took a lot more skills to fly one than it seems now....).  When I first joined eve, I made my initial (puny) fortune by hauling.  Tried freighter hauling as well, and the margins are laughable at this point.  The market has gotten way too efficient, even across massive amounts of space.  Bleh.

So yeah, if you could ping somebody about getting me back into the corp to come help you guys out in 0.0, I'd appreciate it.  Thanks!

Put in an app and I'll poke an active director.

I decided to add another account. Looked at the Amazon deal, but $20 for 2 weeks of speed learnin' and 30 days of game time isn't as good as 90 days of game time for $24.95 (the Sidekick deal). So I will have a new high sec gank/cyno alt as soon as I can decide on a name and a look for her  :grin:

Application sent.

K, let me know if it hasn't been accepted within a day or so.

Well no response as of yet.   :awesome_for_real:

Is there anybody from F13 actually playing in Bat Country still?  Would it be better to have somebody try to sponsor me into goonfleet proper?  heh.

Also, for that matter, is there a good system I should try to move all my shit to before hand so I can more easily get it into what ever section of space we are occupying now?

I've had fun so far in PvEland but am hankering to get back to PvP. Reactivated my account, got given the CE and made an Amarr pilot with the code in it. Then realised that I only had 8 pilots and really could fit 9 onto 3 accounts. I now have 6 accounts training because I have absolutely no fucking willpower and am a total moran who just wanted a pure Amarr and Gallente to round out the numbers

Fuck EvE, I think I am about to blow more on it than  I have on GW2 and Star Citizen put together.

Teleku, the app process is a bit different now.  You may need to manually accept the invite, once the corp has accepted you on their end.  It's goofy, but I think they've done a round of applications since you sent yours in.

Yes, you definitely have to accept in game.

My application is still unprocessed.  Asked in the recruitment channel, explaining who I was, and was told I should contact Petto Behr (I'm forgetting, who is that here?) when he's online next.  Maybe it would have helped if I mentioned who I was in the app.   :why_so_serious:  I'm applying as character name Telleka.

I'm gay.

Just started Eve a second time, after I tried a 14 day trial last year and subbed 1 month w/o any guess what I was doing. I didnt play alot cause my father got seriously ill, so I didnt continue playing. Now I opened a new account and startet to play and read a lot about the game, and hell, it is so much fun. I try to do some missions and then learn more about PvP, maybe in EVE Uni or FW, but I dont know yet.

The missing comma in the title of this thread annoys me.

You may go about your business.

Those are both good options for getting started.  The absolute worst thing you can do is play alone after you've gotten a feel for the tutorials.

What's your character name? I can send you some isku to make the game a lot more bearable in the beginning.

obvious spy is obvious

Hey, he posted in other forums, too!  All within about 15 minutes, and none since, but at least he made an effort.

I really forgot about this forum. I'm with EVE Uni now, very friendly and helpful people. Maybe its useful to stay there for some months and try the PvP campuses. But the game is so overwhelming and time is limited, I want to try everything. Everytime I read about something else I want to give it a try. Patience needed.

I've been out of the game a while now, but they're definitely a good place to start.  The best thing you can do (and you already did) is join up with a group right away instead of trying to figure things out for yourself.

Seems so that this forum is not so active in Eve anymore, I guess ? Thanks for the friendly advice, as far as I understand EVE Uni they have someone somewhere who knows about any part of the game. They welcomed me very kindly and have a great database for new players.

Edit :

I scrolled over this forum and read a lot of the old threads, shit I regret that I did not find EVE 5 years ago =/

The story was more compelling, but the gameplay itself has gotten so, so, so much better.

A few people are still playing, but haven't been posting much.  They still lurk about.

Logged in to do more than change skills for the first time in a few weeks yesterday. Cleared a couple anoms, got cocky and started reading my book. Intel channel missed a gang coming in to the next door system, so my first warning was "X in X system" (my system). Recalled drones and started aligning, hit warp when he appeared, but still got tackled. Down 1 Ishtar with T2 rigs and 1 clone with full +4s in.

As always, I am terrible at video games.

a dead ratting Ishtar, in ~my Bat Country~?

it's more common than you think

If you are interested in a newbs progress, I will keep posting from time to time and update what's come to place :) but I dont think it will be to thrilling for experienced players. Beside this, I can maybe catch some hints or analyze mistakes which will occur for sure.

To be honest, looking back, the stories were the exciting conclusions of staring at blank screens for 6-8 hours a day. It sounded a lot more exciting than it really was.

There are no blank screens anymore, just hours and hours of bullet time.

I just looked at the influence map, correct me if I'm wrong, but the Clusterfuck now control everything from Period Basis to Geminate? And NCDOT control everything else that isn't Providence? People used to bitch about how smaller organisations couldn't get a look in, but shit, I don't remember there ever been literally 2 political blocks (plus Providence) on the whole map?

Also, I notice NCDOT has now changed their name to Northern Associates Dot. Did that joke get funny while I've been away?

I would guess that it's their renter shell alliance?

Thought that was Brothers of Tangra (BOT)?

That's Pandemic Legion's.

Well, I decided to be a masochist and try eve online.  Got the starter pack for 50 cents.  I think it's been over a decade since I last played it a good bit (back in beta) and at least 7 years since I tried playing it but couldn't get into it. 

Maybe things have changed enough to make it non-sucky for newbies?  Probably not but I might as well give it a go.

Brave Newbies seem to have fun if you are looking for somewhere to try the PvP side out. More than a few welps but still seem to be pretty relaxed by all accounts. PvE the training missions seem to  be a lot better - I fired up a new alt and got through it all - after that though you are on your own so find a corp.

Will do, thanks

It's not sucky for newbies, IMO, because one PLEX converted to ISK (or a gift from a veteran friend) takes care of your newbie expenses, and otherwise they've buffed the Tech 1 ships to be much more viable than they used to be.   So you can get into a workable ship pretty fast.   It still becomes extremely boring after the first couple newbie weeks, unless you have a good group of people to play with, so you can put those ships to use.

Yeah, NCdot still exist, under Vince Draken, but they rent out virtually all of their space, thus the ticker on the influence map.  It looks ilke a lot of space but the income is shared between them and the rest of the N3 bloc that survived our BR- victory (Nulli Secunda and various padding).

The Pandemic Legion one is BoT - Brothers of Tangra - while the CFC one is the Greater Western Co prosperity Sphere, which might serve to dampen our appeal to certain Asian markets.

There are still semi- or non-aligned players in sov nullsec: Providence is independent, while Legion of Death is semi-aligned to our enemies.  The Russian bloc collapsed after we declared Mission Accomplished! in the south.  I hope that CCP comes up with some radical changes to the game which shake this all up.  At the moment, our enemies hold substantially more space than us but they cannot build a bloc that can bring that to bear against us, and BR- probably means that their annual attack on us will fail at a somewhat earlier stage than normal, this year (the drawing board).

So yeah, the tutorial / newbie missions are quite a lot better than I remember.  Starting to get a hang of things,

Well, from what I've been reading, the Kronos (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=348159&find=unread) expansion tomorrow has a bunch of stuff but nothing major like that, and otherwise the industry changes (http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-price-of-change/?_ga=1.56976298.1064869609.1401717338) may break the game for good, who knows.  But still, they're not aimed to change the nullsec sov space, not specifically.

I did notice you in Bat Country jabber last week, didn't I?  If you've not been told how to join us then PM me on here.  Do not subject yourself to Brave, who are not in any way as good as the propaganda (I have half a dozen agents in them at any given time, and had a character there myself, and it is pretty insufferable in places).  Basically, if faced with the choice, always choose the alliance where you can fly with Mister Vee.

I did notice that the hype around BNI has died down.

I thought of putting one of my new alts into it but in the end didn't bother - I've turned into a mission runner :( Log in, play for an hour, log out with one pilot out exploring to see how long it lasts (4 weeks then lost my shit coming out of a WH :D )

I don't even play anymore but this is so true, flying with  Vee is great. Hell even Boat is awesome. Does DBRB still do roams? I swear I don't miss EVE.

I was drinking with DBRB in Edinburgh a couple of weeks ago: he's great fun and a really, genuinely nice guy.  He doesn't do much in the way of strat ops these days, but does FC bombers and small stuff a lot.

Bat Country are one of the most prestigious corps in Eve these days: we run the GIA (Goonfleet Intelligence Agency) and have done for about three years, now, turning it back into the most feared intel group in Eve from where it had languished after the Mittani's term ended.  We created the Ministry of Love, who are the empire wing of Goonswarm and are the most hated, feared and (this is the key bit!) talked-about gankers in the game, and who run the prestigious ice interdiction and Burn Jita events.

Most importantly, we are one of the chillest corps around, with people coming to join us from all over the place since we have the reputation for being competent but not uptight about it.

I always found DBRB to be a good guy from voice comms. Vee was a great commander as well, even if he made the bad choice of hating my guts.  :grin:

To be honest, I miss the chatter of Ops in IAC and Goons. That was a great thing about the game. I don't miss the drama though.

Endie: I don't suppose you have an Aussie presence in BAT? As I recollect there were only 2 of us last time.

You could call our insomniac crew an "Aussie presence". Hey, maybe I can get Aaron Static to play Eve again?

Back when I didn't work a real 9-5 job, I used to stay up overnight sometimes to play Eve with the Australians.  It's where I learned about covert hotdropping before it was in vogue!*

*It may have involved exposure to PenifSmash

Like Setanta says, we have quite a few all-night US TZ people, some of whom are not always stoned.  But more interesting to you would be the fact that the bloc has an Aussie squad that actually does stuff most days, so far as i can see from the DT-ish broadcasts that go out.  Fawlty7 is the FC that seems to do most stuff with them.

Fake Edit: I checked and a few hours ago he sent this now-declassified broadcast:

"Fawlty7 sent a web broadcast to asshole_squad containing:
x if you are able to get to [deleted system name] and get into an ahac or harpy like right now."

Let's all have a laugh at me.

I gave Kall 500 million to buy his loyalty help him get started, and he tossed back 400m my way a few days ago.  Three days before he returned the isk, another buddy of mine asked for a high-value loan to help him get set up in a wormhole to the tune of 10 billion.  So the last two transactions in my transaction log are 10b out, 400m in, and I received an email essentially saying "here is some of the isk you loaned me, sorry I can't pay it all back".

I didn't look closely at the name and sort of flipped out, assuming I was now out 9.6 billion.

I'm dumb.

Sorry Kall  :uhrr:

Haha, I read the mail going "wtf, is he fucking around with me or did I miss something"

Been there. Big loans will eat at you if you let them. So don't let them.  :awesome_for_real:

I don't usually, but it was a guy I've known for years and thought he was saying "Thanks, fuck you, bye!"  Betrayals hurt, man!

I'm pretty sure that if I was given 10 billion and was going to screw you over I probably wouldn't have given the 400million back lol

Well, you are in a wormhole now.  I wish him luck hunting you down to collect. ;D

Since we're talking about losing spacemoneys: CCP finally nerfed T2 BPOs after years and years of people telling them to do it already. Sadly this came soon after I acquired some myself. Fuck.

Oh well, easy comes, easy goes.

How are they nurfed?

Their research values will be fixed and pointless, meaning invention will bring in more profit compared to using an original.

I was just running a T4 mission for boredom's sake, thought I'd do just one more... bastion up and start nuking only to lose all control of my modules and then cop multiple socket errors at once. Log in to my pod because bastion = no emergency warp :D

2014.06.22 08:10:00

Victim: xxxxxxxxxx
Corp: xxxxxxxxxxx
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Vargur
System: xxxxxx
Security: 0.6
Damage Taken: 52167

Involved parties:

Name: Elite Drone Parasite / Unknown (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 52167

Destroyed items:

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Large Projectile Ambit Extension II
Tracking Speed Script (Cargo)
Salvager II
Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner
Hobgoblin II, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)
Large Projectile Burst Aerator I
Barrage L, Qty: 1984 (Cargo)
Bastion Module I
Republic Fleet Fusion L, Qty: 2068 (Cargo)
Republic Fleet EMP L, Qty: 100
Tracking Enhancer II
800mm Repeating Cannon II
Tracking Computer II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Hammerhead II, Qty: 2 (Drone Bay)
Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L, Qty: 2680 (Cargo)
Republic Fleet Titanium Sabot L, Qty: 2060 (Cargo)
Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
800mm Repeating Cannon II

Dropped items:

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Small Tractor Beam II
Hobgoblin II, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay)
Republic Fleet EMP L, Qty: 100
Tracking Enhancer II
800mm Repeating Cannon II
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Republic Fleet EMP L, Qty: 100
800mm Repeating Cannon II
Republic Fleet EMP L, Qty: 100
Angel Diamond Tag (Cargo)
Republic Fleet EMP L, Qty: 3348 (Cargo)
Hammerhead II, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay)
Optimal Range Script
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Small Remote Armor Repairer II

2 billion all up - ah well, I'd just paid it off :D

Right before I'd put enough ISK together to re-finance going back to 0.0

After living through the tech 2 BPO Only era, I hope the tears and anger were strong enough to reopen the Earth-Eve Gate.

I don't really know about the angst. The T2 BPO owners have always been a thin minority and I can say having been on both sides of the fence I still think it's a good change, but it's too late. That loophole was sucked dry long ago and everyone who made bank have moved onto other ventures already.

After two years playing World of Tanks I'm back in Eve.   Jumped into the first wormhole I found just to look around.

Scanning is different, many ships have changed, and we now have racial destroyers and battle cruisers.  Many changes.

There are even entire new classes of ships. Maurader,Black-ops and the SoE ships. Loving the Sansha bonus changes, finally can unshroud my ships and use them!

You don't need money to come back to nullsec.  You just need to be in Bat Country and make a profit on every ship you lose in PvP.

So I am now working third shift and its so fuckin slow, I need something to do. Thinking about playing this again...probably roams and suicide ganking (no change). Anyone got a half ass ganker character I could use? (I'll rat sec status back up, and give ya a cut of ganks till I make enough to buy a character). I gave away/sold my old shit...still have a couple crap accounts but wouldn't reactivate them unless I had something at least halfway decent to rock.

I'd love to roll with BC again, and I'm pretty ok at internet spaceships.

Slay, pm me, I have a guy you can use.

Poke me when you resub, too.  I might actually have some time to play again soon.

holy fuck are plex expensive. I need a new profession for isk, was solo running lowsec plexes but it appears like the areas are so saturated (changes to probing) now. Gonna be hard for me to find a better way to make solo and cheap isk :cthulu: Maybe some worm holing?

Looks like my alliance,corp is also in stasis:(

0.0 anoms pay $15-20M per tick in an Ishtar, and you can do it AFK if you want to risk it (lost one yesterday when went to pee  :heartbreak: ). If you are in high sec, stop being in high sec.

Or teach yourself to enjoy trading and start playing the market.

So I recently became a corp (anti-)hero. I was hunting targets around lowsec and I scanned down a mining party complete with Orca, quickly found their belt and got a tackle on the Orca. Gave a shout in corp chat for everyone to come help, just noticing CONCORD warp in and blap my Cynabal. Turns out it was a 0.5 system and I hadn't noticed.

The Orca pilot preceded to put a kill right on me which in turn led to me losing a Damnation after getting bumped off a gate near Amarr. The funniest part is we just joined a new alliance who they're trying to impress. I know there was a million ways to prevent all that, but hey at least I have given some comedy value to the corp.

Just make sure not to rage at him inadvertently   :why_so_serious:

Where's the money, Lebowski?

I was thinking of checking back in. Do Gallente Drone boats still suck? Because I was flying some Gallente BS stuffed to the gills with drones, which suited my playstyle of "Kill you from over here, while you shoot at something that's not my expensive boat".

For PVE, drones are easily the best option. Pretty good for PvP too, actually  :grin: Ishtars with T2 heavies or a mix of Geckos and med and light T2s are standard and can run pretty much any anomaly.

Also, the dominix was in vogue for a while as a large fleet PvP beast.  And carriers are all about sentry drones, too.

My info may be out of date, but Gallente has been hot shit for a few years now.

Yeah they nerfed drone assist about a week after I finished training for T2 sentries  :oh_i_see:

I think, at least when I quit, that I pretty much had the ability to do damn near anything with practically any t2 drone. I think I was branching out into stealth stuff (with an eye towards co-ovps) and interdictors out of boredom -- I wanted to put together a useful role in PvP. And then Bat Country more or less went "Eh". :)

I think I was running the lvl 4 complexes in a Dom.

My impression is that drones rock, but the drone UI sucks.  All other weapons (including missiles) have the niceties of weapon groups and activating your weapon via a single key push (F1).  Drones = lots of right-clicking in a tiny window.

Kugu is gone. During the great wars it was the place I went to see what the other side was saying, and the forum battles to go along with the space battles. Where will I go now to browse about battles and drama? Mittani.com isn't it.

Now is your chance F13.net! Get them here, and be THE place to come to for out of game discussions for a game dooming itself to irrelevance!

This would be a good place for that discussion right enough. I enjoyed Kugu, but I haven't looked at it at all in well over a year.

You know that you can set hot-keys to your drones right?

Put your drones into a folder - to launch them, drag the folder into space. Go to keyboard bindings. I use F1 to attack, F2 to return to drone bay, F3 to return and orbit and F4 and F5 to change their stance from passive or aggressive.

It's not perfect but it works.

Edit: I use 1-6 to activate my weapons modules so drones ar on the F keys.

Kugutsumen was more fun than playing the game... what happened?

The man himself wants to make it a place to talk about the next Bitcoin replacment, I think.

I think there's about three of them who aren't already in Goonswarm that I'd want posting here.

Allright, patching up -- have not played since Walking in Stations was new.

So, what do I need to get a jump clone out to 0.0? And what's new and worth playing with in high-sec?

I'm dicking around with probing in high-sec and find a wormhole. A little googling says is a Class 3-W wormhole.

Obviously it goes somewhere, it doesn't last forever (this one has less than four hours left, one reason I'm not poking my nose inside). What the hell is a 'sleeper'? And how do I tell if it's a soloable wormhole? And how do I make sure I can leave again? :)

I want to answer this, but I can't remember shit about wormholes except that you can tell what class they are from their info page and sleepers are a bitch to fight.

Um, old info here, but:

On the other side of a wormhole you'll find a solar system; you won't be in immediate danger unless the PVP residents are camping the wormhole exit point (typically this is done cloaked).  As soon as you've entered, bookmark your location so you can exit again, otherwise you will need probes to find the other wormholes that lead out/elsewhere.  Then cloak up asap (covops cloak recommended) and move away to a planet or safespot so you can scan around in peace.  

Directional scanning with a short range from each planet will typically reveal the POS'es that the residents may have at the moons; you can get their corp name from that.  Otherwise, you'll need probes to find the sleeper sites and anomalies if you want to PVE, or to find PVP targets.

EVE-Uni wiki (http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Wormholes_100) answers some of your questions.

If you're looking at a wormhole, you can get an idea of where it leads by looking up the chart in the wiki above.  Example: C125 leads to a Class 2 W-system.
Otherwise if you're inside and can see the J-number of the system, look it up in staticmapper.com (http://www.staticmapper.com/) to see its class rating and possible PVP activity.
This Evelopedia article (https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wormhole_space) has some info about how difficult it is to fight sleepers.
As far as w-space maps, the solar systems are fixed, but their exits are wormholes so they change constantly, so maps look like this (https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Project_Atlas).

That makes sense. I wasn't looking for combat, I was just playing with the new scan mechanics and hoping to try hacking. I found a nest of serpentis frigates and a wormhole.

And trying to remember things like "Wait, how do I lock targets" and "how do I launch drones" and "What the hell do I have this ship for?"

Wormhole space is so full these days that you will likely be stalked and killed unless you have a number of friends with you.  Even then you need to watch d-scan every few seconds for an incoming fleet.

Also, sleepers are really tough rats to kill.  I'd avoid.

Yeah, I scanned a wormhole down in high-sec (class 2 W-space) and risked it, killed a squad of Sleepers. Stupid things actually target my drones! :)

I went back to level 4 missions -- faster with a higher payout. I'm gonna buy a new mobile tractor unit. Those things are great. Just dump it at the start of a mission, bookmark it, and kill. Then end the mission, grab my salvager and fly out. Empty the cargo, scoop them both to the hold, salvage the world, done.

I suppose people could warp in and steal them....

I need to get a jump clone out to nullsec, though. I need to rejoin Bat Country, actually.

One thing to note is that nullsec rats also target drones now.  It made ratting in a dominix or ishtar a pain towards the end of when I was playing regularly.  Tengus and blaster boats were the vogue ratting ships at that point.

I'm using a Gila for ratting, rats have a hard time killing the drones.

Figures. I'm really skilled for drones and armor tanking. I was branching out -- I've flown Covert Ops ships before (one of my few PvP experiences in a fleet), and I've the skills but no experience with interdictors (light and heavy).

My shield skills are decent, but gunnery is limited to hybrid turrets and missiles I just have the base skills. Right now I'm quickly running through the few new armor and drone skills (and Micro warp drive...sounds perfect for my love of standing 100km off and firing sentries. I've got to change my fit a bit, though -- I've got to be within 87km to lock right now).

Are you still limited to one character training at a time?

You can buy a plex and have two chars train per month I think.

Yup.