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Title: Followers...
Post by: 01101010 on May 21, 2012, 06:55:32 AM
So who uses what in terms of companions when not running with anyone?

I been using Lyndon and his shit is too funny sometimes... Most of it cheesy, but sometimes he'll let something slip that forces me to read the chat box. I don't really use the others, though I ran around with Eirena on my monk for a few levels. Her dialogs were not nearly as good.

And just to add... Lyndon looks bad ass with a rare battle crossbow.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Threash on May 21, 2012, 06:57:40 AM
I bring the Templar, his heals have saved my ass plenty of times.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Raknor on May 21, 2012, 06:58:43 AM
Templar with heals (left column of abilities) pretty much exclusively.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: kildorn on May 21, 2012, 06:58:55 AM
I love the scoundrel's dialogue. Either him hitting on the women and getting shot down, or fishing the dudes to find out if they have a cute sister. I really love when you have two companions for a bit and they banter.

Combat wise, I use the enchantress usually. Her knockback is awesome, and her +all damage AE pool is amazing. I may try using a fully healbot specced templar though.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: MuffinMan on May 21, 2012, 07:10:15 AM
I run around with the Templar a lot because he fits with my wiz. I should switch him out for the Scoundrel some just to hear new dialogue.

On the subject, is there a way to respec followers? I haven't looked too hard for it but it has to be there somewhere.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Reg on May 21, 2012, 07:12:10 AM
If you right click their icon a menu comes up with a "Retrain" option.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: lesion on May 21, 2012, 07:14:05 AM
I use the scoundrel because I can't stand the other characters' dialogue. Also, on my wizard, having blind/ranged stuns is great for kiting and extra crit perks always help.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: MuffinMan on May 21, 2012, 07:14:18 AM
If you right click their icon a menu comes up with a "Retrain" option.
Well, that's just simple enough to make me an idiot for not noticing it.

They should make Covetous Chen a follower in the expansion.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Bunk on May 21, 2012, 07:31:21 AM
Been using the enchantress so far - find her dialog with the female DH to be pretty funny. Also, her anti missile weapon shell works well with the DH.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: 01101010 on May 21, 2012, 10:34:23 AM
Lyndon's comments kept him around a lot longer than Eirena... I never even got the Templar's name because he annoyed the shit outta me from the get go and I am too lazy to look it up. Honestly though, he is quite useful when he is Johnny-on-the-spot with the AoE blinds - that and he seems to use it a lot. Eirena has that nice shell or even the armor bonus... but seemed too naive.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: K9 on May 21, 2012, 10:54:18 AM
The templar is a remarkably good tank and a good compliment for my wizard; I love watching him charge around, and his guardian ability has saved me innumerable times.



Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Ingmar on May 21, 2012, 11:28:19 AM
I haven't been soloing much but when I am I've been using the enchantress for her armor buff and attack speed buff for my pile of pets.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Rasix on May 21, 2012, 01:00:32 PM
Enchantress reminds me of Merril.  She stays.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Soulflame on May 21, 2012, 01:04:56 PM
There's companions other than the templar that heals?  Huh.

Do those companions heal?  No?  Then they will never be used by me.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Rendakor on May 21, 2012, 01:06:09 PM
I like the Enchantress; her mind control/confusion ability works on almost everything. Champions, enjoy fighting each other.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: 01101010 on May 21, 2012, 01:07:49 PM
There's companions other than the templar that heals?  Huh.

Do those companions heal?  No?  Then they will never be used by me.

Maybe down the road for nightmare or hell, but fuck man... I have 6-8 health globes after each swarm on normal - not to mention the heals I get from abilities on my Barb.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Soulflame on May 21, 2012, 01:11:12 PM
Maybe it'll be worth it to use a different follower when I'm not playing wizard, but having a self healing charging heal aura tank is far too handy right now.  He made a difference on the WD as well, my dogs went from dying every fight to living through most fights, and needing to be recasted on boss packs.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Sjofn on May 21, 2012, 03:19:25 PM
My wizard has been hanging out with Lyndon, because Lyndon is funny. The templar actually has some amusing stuff (he is just FULL OF ENTHUSIASM) and I'm sure I'll switch to him once my wizard is not on normal, but for now it's my wizard and Lyndon versus hell. We're winning!


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: K9 on May 21, 2012, 03:39:06 PM
The Templar also has a crush on the Enchantress which just makes him more endearing


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Sjofn on May 21, 2012, 03:55:58 PM
He does! It's totally adorable.  :heart:


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Soln on May 21, 2012, 04:16:01 PM
The audio polish in this game is terrific (minus the lack of a sound for jewelry and jewel drops). The follower ad libs are great, and it's nice they actually vary a bit per zone.  For instance, moving from Act2 to 3, my Templar was complaining about the cold.  Another great feature is when an elite (blue) mob engages, a follower will make some warning call (e.g. "a worthy foe approaches" or something).  That's been invaluable to me since I rarely see them in advance.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: K9 on May 21, 2012, 04:31:32 PM
They also seem to have fairly specific chatter for every other temp companion (e.g. Leah) and quite a few quests. The voicework for this game is definitely outstanding.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Trippy on May 21, 2012, 04:42:29 PM
Blizzard went the BioWare route and brought in many "name" video game voice actors and it shows (heard?). E.g. Leah is none other than Jennifer Hale :drillf:


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Soln on May 21, 2012, 05:24:18 PM
D3 is better than Skyrim or SWTOR for voice.  Must be the direction and content if some actors are the same.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: waffel on May 21, 2012, 05:39:46 PM
End of nightmare/start of hell and I switched to Enchantress. She has some nice knockback/hex/buff abilities for me that I enjoy.

I figure at this point I'd rather have her hexing stuff/knocking it back then a Templar which may or may not heal me for 1/20th the damage monsters are doing.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: SurfD on May 21, 2012, 05:41:16 PM
I have been mainly using the Scoundrel, as he is nice ranged dps to compliment my monk.  That and the fact that I seem to get a new Rare Bow or Xbow every 20 minutes or so (i shit you not, I have like 15 of them banked on a level 2 DH that will keep her neck deep in Weapon upgrades till level 40) so he does like 4x the damage of the other two Companions.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Phildo on May 21, 2012, 09:27:55 PM
The templar's health regen works great with the witch doctor's pets.  I haven't tried the enchantress yet, but I'd bet her armor buff is also useful.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: SurfD on May 23, 2012, 07:08:32 AM
BIG WARNING FOR HARDCORE PLAYERS:  Enchantress Mass Hex Bad!

Not sure if it is a bug, or a "random misfire chance" or what, but I got gibbed in a regular Nightmare session a few minutes ago when the Mass Hex spell for the Enchantress (the one that turns enemies into Chickens) turned ME into a chicken right in the middle of a swarm of nasty shit.

I would avoid that spell option on her like the plague if you decide to tote her around in any hardcore playthroughs.  Losing a Hardcore toon to a Follower would really suck.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Threash on May 23, 2012, 07:14:43 AM
BIG WARNING FOR HARDCORE PLAYERS:  Enchantress Mass Hex Bad!

Not sure if it is a bug, or a "random misfire chance" or what, but I got gibbed in a regular Nightmare session a few minutes ago when the Mass Hex spell for the Enchantress (the one that turns enemies into Chickens) turned ME into a chicken right in the middle of a swarm of nasty shit.

I would avoid that spell option on her like the plague if you decide to tote her around in any hardcore playthroughs.  Losing a Hardcore toon to a Follower would really suck.

Maybe she got hexed by one of the mobs?


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: kildorn on May 23, 2012, 07:20:58 AM
Did one of the mobs have missile reflect? It may be incorrectly classified a missile type spell and be able to bounce from things like spinning Dervishes and whatnot.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: 01101010 on May 23, 2012, 07:58:07 AM
BIG WARNING FOR HARDCORE PLAYERS:  Enchantress Mass Hex Bad!

Not sure if it is a bug, or a "random misfire chance" or what, but I got gibbed in a regular Nightmare session a few minutes ago when the Mass Hex spell for the Enchantress (the one that turns enemies into Chickens) turned ME into a chicken right in the middle of a swarm of nasty shit.

I would avoid that spell option on her like the plague if you decide to tote her around in any hardcore playthroughs.  Losing a Hardcore toon to a Follower would really suck.

 :ye_gods: :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Xanthippe on May 23, 2012, 08:50:15 AM
Does Magic Find or any other stat on a ring on a follower help me?


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: 01101010 on May 23, 2012, 09:09:52 AM
Does Magic Find or any other stat on a ring on a follower help me?

I think it is in the other thread where someone mentions this. IIRC, it helps, but the effects are tiny.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: K9 on May 23, 2012, 09:57:33 AM
You inherit about 20% of your follower's MF and GF; it's probably not worth pushing it all that much.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: SurfD on May 23, 2012, 04:13:44 PM
Did one of the mobs have missile reflect? It may be incorrectly classified a missile type spell and be able to bounce from things like spinning Dervishes and whatnot.
Not sure.  It was in the "kill the mobs in the castle basement" section of Act 3.  I dont know of anything that might have missile reflect down there, unless it might have been a rare pack / spawn affix? The spell animation looks like an AoE grenade almost, not sure if that would count as reflectable.  Also, when it happened, other mobs around me were also Hexed.  

Anyone know if there is any monster effect that could turn you hostile to other players? or other players hostile to you?  Do mobs mindcontroll?

Edit to add: played around with the Enchantress a bit more, and this Hex hitting me is definately not a fluke thing.  I have ended up a Chicken at least 8 or 9 times in random situations while mucking around through act 3 and 4 Nightmare.  No pattern that i can identify, can happen when any kind of mob is around.  All in all, I would definately not spec for that spell if you want to use her as a companion in hardcore mode.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Llyse on May 24, 2012, 05:09:34 PM
She's never hexed me but this was Act I nightmare so yeah...


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Azuredream on May 25, 2012, 03:03:41 AM
I've died a couple times that way. I just spec'd her out of it.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: cironian on May 25, 2012, 05:38:19 AM
Leah is none other than Jennifer Hale :drillf:

I'm starting to get really tired of Hale popping up everywhere. I won't deny that she delivers quality work, but having the exact same voice everywhere gets annoying. It's not like there aren't any other women out there who can voice act.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Shatter on May 25, 2012, 06:29:35 AM
Seems the templars heals are falling behind as I level, he just isnt saving my ass heroically like he used to.  I have a lot of HP and his little heal isnt scaling well it seems with that.  Might go Enchantress tonight. 


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Lantyssa on May 25, 2012, 06:44:15 AM
I'm starting to get really tired of Hale popping up everywhere. I won't deny that she delivers quality work, but having the exact same voice everywhere gets annoying. It's not like there aren't any other women out there who can voice act.
I blame casting directors for not asking her to change her voice whatsoever.  She can do accents, and I imagine voice actors get bored doing the same voice over and over.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: 01101010 on May 25, 2012, 07:13:10 AM
I just refuse to take anyone but Lyndon now. Fucker is useful and entertaining.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Ingmar on May 25, 2012, 01:31:54 PM
I'm starting to get really tired of Hale popping up everywhere. I won't deny that she delivers quality work, but having the exact same voice everywhere gets annoying. It's not like there aren't any other women out there who can voice act.
I blame casting directors for not asking her to change her voice whatsoever.  She can do accents, and I imagine voice actors get bored doing the same voice over and over.

Eh, her Leah voice is a lot chirpier/higher pitched than say her Shepard/Trooper one, it took me a while to realize it was her.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: kildorn on May 25, 2012, 01:58:45 PM
For Sjofn, act 3:



Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Sjofn on May 25, 2012, 03:57:06 PM
The scoundrel points out basically the same thing in a completely different way.  :grin:


As for Hale, I am also sick of her, so don't get me wrong, but she's fine in D3. It's not her Commander Shepard Voice, which is all I really ask at this point.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Tannhauser on May 25, 2012, 04:56:09 PM
Good to see I'm not the only one enjoying the followers.  As a wizard, I keep the templar with me most of the time.  His lines are OK, but I like Lyndon's better.

He does take pride in his work!


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Hawkbit on May 25, 2012, 05:28:06 PM
Sadly, I'm finding the Templar/Scoundrel stories more compelling that the actual game story. 


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: ezrast on May 26, 2012, 01:51:59 AM
The game has a story?


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Ironwood on May 26, 2012, 04:05:03 AM
No.

Thus far it's a fucking mess.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Trippy on May 28, 2012, 02:29:28 PM
I like how they have dialog in NM for follower combination you can't get in Normal. E.g. if you have an Enchantress with you when you rescue the Templar he greets the Enchantress. Of if you have the Enchantress with you at the start of Act 2 you get some amusing dialog.



Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Xanthippe on May 28, 2012, 02:38:31 PM
I've had Lyndon with me most of the time because he's so amusing. It's a lot of fun listening to him when you start over again.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Xanthippe on May 29, 2012, 10:41:50 AM
I can't stand the Enchantress. She's really boring after the Templar and Scoundrel.

Whoever does the Scoundrel's voice and whoever wrote his story are to be commended. First-rate.

I wish I could change my female monk's voice. Reminds me of Nastasha Nogoodnik.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Fabricated on May 29, 2012, 10:42:44 AM
The Male Monk kinda makes me want to kill Moosk and Squirrel.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: 01101010 on May 29, 2012, 11:04:58 AM
Lyndon is just my type of friend in real life. His remarks rank right up there. Running into the demon section right before the spider bitch in Act 3, he blurts out "Angry naked women are attacking me?! It's like that summer in Westmarch all over again!" I almost lost my shit and had to reread the chat box to make sure that is indeed what I heard.

Kormac is all gungho noble warrior. Nice, but gets grating after a bit. Though his conversation storyline is oddly interesting.

Eirena? Have not really used here at all but I had her for a run or two and could not port fast enough to grab Lyndon.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: calapine on May 29, 2012, 03:40:49 PM
Eirena? Have not really used here at all but I had her for a run or two and could not port fast enough to grab Lyndon.

oh she can be entertaining too: (paraphrased)

Eirena: Did you know that.....?
Sorcress: Actually I did.
Eirena: *utmost devastated and apologetic tone* Oh...I am sorry.

Edit: But yes, Lyndon is great. I have already added him in my long list of video-game-characters-I-would-have-sex-with.  :heart:


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Sjofn on May 29, 2012, 03:47:59 PM
Lyndon is my favorite sort of character, I knew he was going to be my favorite the moment he said my demon hunter looked like he knew a lot about markets. <3


The Enchantress is pretty boring, although once in a great while she says something that will amuse me. My demon hunter is a huge crabby asshole and my wizard is an insufferable douchebag, so it's not like she has a lot to work with anyway.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Ingmar on May 29, 2012, 03:50:56 PM
Enchantress: Are you considered handsome among your people?
My witch doctor: Why do you think I wear so little?
Enchantress: (super embarrassed) Oh... I see!


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: ezrast on May 29, 2012, 05:52:30 PM
Lyndon makes me wish my own character were more likeable. He's cool (not to mention his 3% crit) but it's annoying how hard he brings out the wet blanket in my monk.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Sjofn on May 29, 2012, 06:11:36 PM
Lyndon does pretty much hammer home the various personalities, I think. He definitely makes it clear my demon hunter is a humorless jerkwad. I mean, I knew that's how the demon hunter would be (he smolders with generic rage with the best of 'em), but it's sort of extra pronounced when he's banging around with Lyndon. It's alright, though, I am sure he appreciates the DH's commitment to being the straight man or something. I'm pretty sure he secretly likes the templar for that reason.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Fabricated on May 29, 2012, 06:23:58 PM
Do followers get any notably different dialog with the different heroes?

There's a lot of generic banter I know, but at the end of his story my followers were referencing my Monk far more specifically.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Sjofn on May 29, 2012, 06:57:33 PM
I don't know about "notably" but there are some differences that I've noticed. Generally the difference is what you say rather than what they say, from what I've seen.

I did enjoy my lady monk (I think it was my monk) giving the templar shit for his order not allowing women and Leah totally backing her up on that, though. Pretty sure that doesn't even come up if you're, say, a dude.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Soulflame on May 29, 2012, 07:14:12 PM
I remember douchebag wizard having the conversation with the templar about women joining the order.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Sjofn on May 29, 2012, 07:53:43 PM
Interesting, it never came up with my dude wizard or my dude demon hunter.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Phildo on May 29, 2012, 07:55:43 PM
It did on my male witch doctor.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: Fabricated on May 29, 2012, 08:34:14 PM
Leah starts the argument I think if you're male, and your character supports her.


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: apocrypha on May 29, 2012, 10:51:36 PM
Scoundrel all the way.

"The demons don't seem to be making much progress. Maybe they're as lost as we are!"

 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Followers...
Post by: 01101010 on May 30, 2012, 03:32:43 AM
There are definite gender-based dialogs. Lyndon takes a few attempts at my female barb while he asks my male barb about my significant others.