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Title: Character creation discussion
Post by: Furiously on April 30, 2012, 11:10:04 AM
I was a bit let down by the character creator. The number of hairstyles seemed fairly limited. Seems like the Norn had more interesting styles than humans. Bit confused why they were not common between both races.

Eye color seemed off too.

Other than that I was pretty happy.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Threash on April 30, 2012, 11:23:23 AM
You know there was several pages of hairstyles right? it took me until my third character until i noticed that.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Spiff on April 30, 2012, 11:41:34 AM
My main complaint would be about half of the human female face-presets and almost all of the body-types felt a tad too creepy, like Korean MMO style creepy  :hello_thar:.
Armour colours were also stuck between tasteless and fugly, but I gather more open up after you find 'em/open your wallet?


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Furiously on April 30, 2012, 11:51:07 AM
You know there was several pages of hairstyles right? it took me until my third character until i noticed that.

Yea. Two pages or so. Same with skin colors and hair colors.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Draegan on April 30, 2012, 12:06:41 PM
You need more than 20 something hair styles?


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Ashamanchill on April 30, 2012, 12:16:45 PM
Charr character creation is pretty darn cool. But yeah you're starting armour is some of the most blech I've seen in an MMO. Oh well, here's hoping it get replaced quick like.

Edit: f off iPhone auto correct.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: kildorn on April 30, 2012, 12:19:00 PM
The caster starting armor is.. bleh. It's mostly throwbacks to GW1, which had some pretty terrible cloth armor sets.

Guardian armor+++++++++++. Saw a lady guardian who was actually wearing ARMOR that looked like she was planning on getting into a FIGHT! Naturally when out of that starting armor I presume she switches to a thong or something for the high end content.

edit: from hunting, it was just a tall human lady: http://i.imgur.com/wQR44.jpg

That thief armor. :( Why are you nonsensical!


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Lantyssa on April 30, 2012, 12:22:55 PM
GW1 had a nice mix of fully-armored and bare-midriff type stuff.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Ashamanchill on April 30, 2012, 12:25:36 PM
The warrior starting armour was all brown and boring. It looked kinda like real armour I guess, which, given the fact that I was making a giant snarling cat monster with all the settings cranked to max, was so not what I was looking for.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Lantyssa on April 30, 2012, 12:29:56 PM
You know you can change your armor colors at-will, yes?  Even during character creation.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Murgos on April 30, 2012, 12:30:48 PM
Wandering around the cities you get to see a lot of players.  I'm not too concerned about the armor variety, I saw some pretty cool looking stuff.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: kildorn on April 30, 2012, 12:44:44 PM
You know you can change your armor colors at-will, yes?  Even during character creation.

Which is awesome.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Furiously on April 30, 2012, 12:52:22 PM
You need more than 20 something hair styles?

When 15 are pageboy styles...kinda.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Tmon on April 30, 2012, 01:07:00 PM
I was kinda sad there was not random button.  I don't want a vanilla same as everybody else character but I also don't want to spend a lot of time fiddling with sliders.  With random I just hit it till I hit something I like and move on.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Kitsune on April 30, 2012, 02:18:52 PM
The caster starting armor is.. bleh. It's mostly throwbacks to GW1, which had some pretty terrible cloth armor sets.

Guardian armor+++++++++++. Saw a lady guardian who was actually wearing ARMOR that looked like she was planning on getting into a FIGHT! Naturally when out of that starting armor I presume she switches to a thong or something for the high end content.

edit: from hunting, it was just a tall human lady: http://i.imgur.com/wQR44.jpg

That thief armor. :( Why are you nonsensical!

The only armor that really makes me eyeroll is the plate bustier the warrior's wearing.  I really dig the guardian's plate, the gothic lolita of the necro, and the leather trenchcoat the engineer's wearing.  The mesmer, elementalist, and thief aren't really supposed to be taking punches in the first place, so I can see some value in dressing to distract morons with cleavage; it's not like the cloth was going to absorb a sword stab in the first place.  But the warrior really doesn't have any excuse for how many vital areas aren't covered by her armor.  And the hunter's just kinda boring.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Ingmar on April 30, 2012, 02:33:53 PM
To be fair retarded non-armor armor is just GW's thing. Such has it always been.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Sjofn on April 30, 2012, 02:53:35 PM
Most of their retarded non-armor went to the caster-types, if I remember right. Most of the Should Be Wearing Armor Classes at least tried, and when it was goofy ALL I'M WEARING ARE TATTOOS type crap, the dude's armor was just about as silly, only obviously designed for dudes. Like I would be surprised if that one armored lady with the metal bustier or whatever didn't have her male counterpart looking more Conan-y than not.


That said, I suspect most/all of my casters are going to be dudes or just not played at all.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: tazelbain on April 30, 2012, 02:56:01 PM
how do the seeds work?


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: kildorn on April 30, 2012, 02:56:56 PM
Warrior armor was mostly solid armor in GW1, with one off barbarian sets for people who liked em. I appreciated that you could pretty much wear any set you liked the look of, and they all had the same sets. I have not gotten far enough in GW2 to know if that continues.

Mesmer armor took a bit of a dive in that they appear to just be wearing elementalist armor and dipping it in purple. I'm hoping that changes. And the masks. God, the masks.  :ye_gods:

Bring back preca.. old mesmer masks!


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Tyrnan on April 30, 2012, 03:01:16 PM
how do the seeds work?
I know of two ways. You can either take them to a dye maker (there was one in my home instance in Divinity's Reach) who will tell you to come back in 24 hours to collect your dye. Or you can use some magical plant food (I think that's what it was called at least), which is a cash shop item and use that with the seed to get your dye instantly.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Threash on April 30, 2012, 03:02:42 PM
Warrior armor was mostly solid armor in GW1, with one off barbarian sets for people who liked em. I appreciated that you could pretty much wear any set you liked the look of, and they all had the same sets. I have not gotten far enough in GW2 to know if that continues.

Mesmer armor took a bit of a dive in that they appear to just be wearing elementalist armor and dipping it in purple. I'm hoping that changes. And the masks. God, the masks.  :ye_gods:

Bring back preca.. old mesmer masks!

I loved my starting mask, the one i got a few levels later looked like ass.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Nevermore on April 30, 2012, 04:06:36 PM
They get points for not sticking boobs on female Charr, but they lose points for lingerie Necromancers have to start with.

Also, for some reason my Ranger started with an absurdly tiny head compared to the really long and thick giraffe neck she had.  No, I didn't touch the head size slider during creation.  I left that in the middle on all 4 characters I made and the head/neck thing was only noticeable on the Ranger.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Tmon on April 30, 2012, 05:04:18 PM
Warrior armor was mostly solid armor in GW1, with one off barbarian sets for people who liked em. I appreciated that you could pretty much wear any set you liked the look of, and they all had the same sets. I have not gotten far enough in GW2 to know if that continues.

Mesmer armor took a bit of a dive in that they appear to just be wearing elementalist armor and dipping it in purple. I'm hoping that changes. And the masks. God, the masks.  :ye_gods:

Bring back preca.. old mesmer masks!

I loved my starting mask, the one i got a few levels later looked like ass.

Apparently there are transmutation stones available that let you stick the stats from one piece of armor onto the model of another of the same type.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Kageru on April 30, 2012, 06:13:37 PM
Which at higher levels are cash-shop purchases :/

I didn't mind the hair-cuts, it was enough. The long hair animates amusingly when the rifle recoils so pretty much for that reason alone I'll have a human rifle-lady (probably warrior so I can avoid pets). I'm pretty sure the warrior armor isn't what you see on the selection picture, it's the plain and sensible chainmail. Which is good because the norn guardian class selection armor is more like worn sculpture than something either sensible or sexy.You also have a "city clothes" set which is a bit odd in the defaults but clearly intended to be supplemented through the cash-shop.

The body type selection was a bit odd. I found the default female models very "hippy" but you can't change that. Instead you have to pick a preset many of which look oddly imbalanced or just over-all anemic. But having seen how the Aion body sliders were abused, and the fact no-one really notices fine-detail on the model, I can live with it.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Kitsune on April 30, 2012, 10:49:20 PM
I adore the female engineer suit so hard that I'm probably gonna make one just to run around steampunked out in a leather trench and flamethrower.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Zetor on April 30, 2012, 11:03:18 PM
To be fair retarded non-armor armor is just GW's thing. Such has it always been.
Pretty much. My GW1 main was a female elementalist, and the GW1 rule for their armor was 'less is more'... or rather 'barely anything is more'.  :awesome_for_real: Ditto with the monk / necro obsession with "nekkid except for weird tattoo designs" (though to be fair there were some monk/necro armors that actually covered skin).

My GW2 elementalist's armor actually looks a lot more reasonable than my GW1 ele's ever did...


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Sjofn on May 01, 2012, 01:22:56 PM
I adore the female engineer suit so hard that I'm probably gonna make one just to run around steampunked out in a leather trench and flamethrower.

Ha, the engineer vaulted to second place to try for me for pretty much the exact same reason.


The monk outfits in GW1 were almost all perfectly fine, it was just that ONE "all I need are my tats, man" outfit. That lots of people wore, of course. It also had a dude version that was pretty much as nekkid, so that was alright. My necromancer was perfectly well clothed throughout her (admittedly brief) career, nothing like that pretty terrible starter outfit.

Elementalists were always terrible though.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Redgiant on May 01, 2012, 02:26:16 PM
You need more than 20 something hair styles?

When 15 are pageboy styles...kinda.

Yeah, I was surprised at all the choices, and NONE of them with hair drawn back pony tail style for human male. It screamed anime more than anything.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Numtini on May 01, 2012, 06:13:03 PM
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It screamed anime more than anything.

Divinity's Reach is right out of Grenado Espada with the wide plazas and stalls. AN is part of NCSoft and they have every intention of selling this into the Korean market.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Redgiant on May 02, 2012, 03:34:35 PM
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It screamed anime more than anything.

Divinity's Reach is right out of Grenado Espada with the wide plazas and stalls. AN is part of NCSoft and they have every intention of selling this into the Korean market.

Oh, I fully expected its style to be what it is due to AN's corporate legacy and their market strategy.

The hair styles just lept out, because I couldn't pick the kind I wanted.

Architecture, creatures, landscapes influence is often tell-tale, but usually they just plain look good from anyone's standpoint. It's the funny hair and eyes on Asian-oriented games that always cracks me up as really different.

But in-game my attention was mostly drawn to the Asure gates look and sounds; the Stargate-meets-DAoC intersection made me smile.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Mattemeo on May 03, 2012, 03:14:22 AM
edit: from hunting, it was just a tall human lady: http://i.imgur.com/wQR44.jpg

That thief armor. :( Why are you nonsensical!

I'm a bit down on GW2 class/looks. I can guess some but others are a mystery... the one that looks like a GW1 Ranger is an Engineer?
The girl in the green Lolita party frock is a Necromancer, I'm guessing... but the girl in the tight black leathers to her right could be either a Rogue OR a GW1 Necro.
So who's the girl to the left? My first guess was Engineer but it could be Rogue... (incidentally I like this look the most; ambiguous for a change).


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Kageru on May 03, 2012, 05:29:44 AM

Green party frock is necro. Thief on her left, ranger on right in case you are actually asking.

And the armor isn't what you actually start out with. Not sure if it's high end armor or just idealized. The rogue bandit hat, leather long-coat and two pistols I actually got looked fantastic and just screamed out "Highway robber".


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Lantyssa on May 03, 2012, 07:42:12 AM
Elementalist, Engineer, Guardian, Mesmer

Thief, Necromancer, Ranger, Warrior

These are the 'fancy' class armors to show off the characters.  You don't start with these.  From what I have seen, there are three beginning lines for each weight.  There are several weapons styles, so maybe there are more armors, too.  (GW2 wiki probably has tons of info.)


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Threash on May 03, 2012, 08:29:57 AM
My mesmers starting armor was pretty damn fancy.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Draegan on May 03, 2012, 08:37:56 AM
My mesmers starting armor was pretty damn fancy.

I believe mesmer/elementalist/necromancer all start off with the same gear with the exception of the head slot.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Sjofn on May 03, 2012, 04:40:02 PM
Elementalist, Engineer, Guardian, Mesmer

Thief, Necromancer, Ranger, Warrior

These are the 'fancy' class armors to show off the characters.  You don't start with these.  From what I have seen, there are three beginning lines for each weight.  There are several weapons styles, so maybe there are more armors, too.  (GW2 wiki probably has tons of info.)

Ugh, good thing I wanted to play a dude mesmer, her outfit bothers me more than anyone else's. I had actually assumed she was the necro.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Nevermore on May 03, 2012, 06:06:25 PM
The pic with the armors earlier in the thread aren't the starting armors.  Below are two screenshots, one of the Prostitute Necro starting 'armor' and the other of the freaky small Ranger head.



As I said before, I didn't not touch the head size slider on the Ranger.  It was squarely in the middle.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Ingmar on May 03, 2012, 06:10:08 PM
I see the freaky long necks from GW1 ladies are still there in GW2.

EDIT: Oh wait, that's just an illusion created by her shoulders blending in with the background. Sorta. Maybe.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Nevermore on May 03, 2012, 06:12:37 PM
It's not.  Her shoulders end where the green ends.  I should stress that it was only on Rangers that I saw this happen, which leads me to believe (hope) it's a bug.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Kitsune on May 04, 2012, 10:52:00 AM
Elementalist, Engineer, Guardian, Mesmer

Thief, Necromancer, Ranger, Warrior

These are the 'fancy' class armors to show off the characters.  You don't start with these.  From what I have seen, there are three beginning lines for each weight.  There are several weapons styles, so maybe there are more armors, too.  (GW2 wiki probably has tons of info.)

Ugh, good thing I wanted to play a dude mesmer, her outfit bothers me more than anyone else's. I had actually assumed she was the necro.  :ye_gods:

Wait, what about a lace teddy and stockings screams "necromancy" to you?


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Furiously on May 04, 2012, 10:57:41 AM
Elementalist, Engineer, Guardian, Mesmer

Thief, Necromancer, Ranger, Warrior

These are the 'fancy' class armors to show off the characters.  You don't start with these.  From what I have seen, there are three beginning lines for each weight.  There are several weapons styles, so maybe there are more armors, too.  (GW2 wiki probably has tons of info.)

Ugh, good thing I wanted to play a dude mesmer, her outfit bothers me more than anyone else's. I had actually assumed she was the necro.  :ye_gods:

Wait, what about a lace teddy and stockings screams "necromancy" to you?

Everyone knows goths wear lace.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Lantyssa on May 04, 2012, 12:03:55 PM
Wait, what about a lace teddy and stockings screams "necromancy" to you?
I'm not guessing, those are the actual classes.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Sjofn on May 04, 2012, 12:10:38 PM
Ugh, good thing I wanted to play a dude mesmer, her outfit bothers me more than anyone else's. I had actually assumed she was the necro.  :ye_gods:

Wait, what about a lace teddy and stockings screams "necromancy" to you?

I don't know, ask the art people from GW1 what stupid sheer nighties have to do with being an elementalist?

That outfit actually looks closest to what my necro from GW1 was running around in (only sluttier). And purple, for some reason, is associated with necromancy in my mind (I know my necro was in purple). Green, on the other hand, is a mesmer color ... and the necro's outfit looks closer to what I remember mesmers running around in in GW1. <shrug>


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: tmp on May 04, 2012, 12:18:28 PM
Wait, what about a lace teddy and stockings screams "necromancy" to you?

Everyone knows goths wear lace.
More precisely, that's Japanese fashion kink (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita_fashion#Gothic_Lolita) adopted pretty much wholesale by the looks of it.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Forying1948 on April 23, 2013, 06:04:14 AM
They get points for not sticking boobs on female Charr, but they lose points for lingerie Necromancers have to start with.

Also, for some reason my Ranger started with an absurdly tiny head compared to the really long and thick giraffe neck she had.  No, I didn't touch the head size slider during creation.  I left that in the middle on all 4 characters I made and the head/neck thing was only noticeable on the Ranger.

Well this is quite interesting. I found it really interesting.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: 01101010 on April 23, 2013, 06:20:13 AM
Well this is quite interesting. I found it really interesting.

I'll get the belt.  :grin:


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Forying1948 on April 23, 2013, 02:24:23 PM
They get points for not sticking boobs on female Charr, but they lose points for cheap lingerie (http://www.robustbuy.com/womens-clothes-lingerie-sets-c-1083_1085_1088.html) Necromancers have to start with.

Also, for some reason my Ranger started with an absurdly tiny head compared to the really long and thick giraffe neck she had.  No, I didn't touch the head size slider during creation.  I left that in the middle on all 4 characters I made and the head/neck thing was only noticeable on the Ranger.


Yes this is quite a thing to look at. You did mention something that worth time


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Nevermore on April 23, 2013, 03:26:49 PM
Yeah, my posts are pretty awesome.  Thanks.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Rasix on April 24, 2013, 10:21:49 AM
So, spambot without spam?  How odd.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Nonentity on April 24, 2013, 10:41:48 AM
He's just here to gain our love and trust before he twists the knife.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Zetor on April 24, 2013, 10:51:50 AM
So, spambot without spam?  How odd.
The spam is there, it added a link in the quote ('cheap lingerie'). Probably tried to harvest posts that had the word 'lingerie' in them so it could do this. May be more of a SEO/pagerank thing than outright "BUY VIAGRA" spam.

I seem to recall some other spammer doing the same in Serious Business a few months back.


Title: Re: Character creation discussion
Post by: Phred on April 24, 2013, 12:00:36 PM
More likely a google rankings bot. Anyone not clued into how it works try replying to the post with quote. It's quite obvious what it's doing then.