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Title: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Furiously on December 13, 2011, 12:09:39 PM
http://www.swtor.com/info/security-key (http://www.swtor.com/info/security-key)

I figured it would be a bit more. Four dollars seems very reasonable. Almost like they are not making money off selling them.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Numtini on December 13, 2011, 12:11:43 PM
I really don't get why these aren't in every box and mandatory. It seems like they would more than recoup the expense in saved customer service grief.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: jakonovski on December 13, 2011, 12:15:32 PM
I'll wait for the app, which will hopefully come soon.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Rasix on December 13, 2011, 12:16:39 PM
I'll wait for the app, which will hopefully come soon.

Same.  WoW authenticator app served me well.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Ingmar on December 13, 2011, 12:18:17 PM
Going with the physical authenticator, since I don't actually own my phone (my work provides it, and the last thing I want is to not be able to log in to my MMO with my copious unemployed free time if I end up getting fired and having to give the phone back!)


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Sobelius on December 13, 2011, 12:19:58 PM
I like that they have an in-game vendor for folks with security keys -- nice little incentive to get people to use (and buy) them.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Paelos on December 13, 2011, 12:22:00 PM
Why does it say "only on Origin" below the authenticator. Statements like that scare me.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Ingmar on December 13, 2011, 12:22:34 PM
That's how you order it, through the Origin store.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: fuser on December 13, 2011, 12:24:21 PM
Ordered, seriously should be standard or support a generic hardware token like a yubi key


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Paelos on December 13, 2011, 12:26:53 PM
That's how you order it, through the Origin store.

Ah ok I was confused about the login and shit.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Furiously on December 13, 2011, 12:37:14 PM
Ordered, seriously should be standard or support a generic hardware token like a yubi key

I'm sure if you wait until the 20th you can get an app for your iphone or android for free.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Bunk on December 13, 2011, 12:49:32 PM
So someone clue me in - how does one use an app on their phone to verify a login on their PC?


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: 01101010 on December 13, 2011, 12:50:21 PM
So someone clue me in - how does one use an app on their phone to verify a login on their PC?

Generates a number key, same as the dongle.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: luckton on December 13, 2011, 12:56:37 PM
lol, special access to a Security-Key only vendor shop.  Wonder how long it'll take for the VIP CE shit to trickle down to that :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Merusk on December 13, 2011, 12:56:57 PM
Yeah the physical key isn't a USB lock, it's a numeric generator like WoW's, however that tech works.  I have theories but can't be arsed to look up if I'm right.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on December 13, 2011, 12:57:18 PM
So someone clue me in - how does one use an app on their phone to verify a login on their PC?

Generates a number key, same as the dongle.

Heh, you said dongle.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Ingmar on December 13, 2011, 01:04:14 PM
Yeah the physical key isn't a USB lock, it's a numeric generator like WoW's, however that tech works.  I have theories but can't be arsed to look up if I'm right.

The token has a unique seed number that generates a code every 30 sec or 1 minute based on what time it is; the authentication server on the other end knows your seed number as well so it can also generate the same number. Then it just compares them and lets you in if they match.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: 01101010 on December 13, 2011, 01:06:21 PM
Yeah the physical key isn't a USB lock, it's a numeric generator like WoW's, however that tech works.  I have theories but can't be arsed to look up if I'm right.

The token has a unique seed number that generates a code every 30 sec or 1 minute based on what time it is; the authentication server on the other end knows your seed number as well so it can also generate the same number. Then it just compares them and lets you in if they match.

Show off...


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Bunk on December 13, 2011, 01:17:01 PM
Ah ok, I was actually thinking it was a dongle system. Still have a parallel port dongle from our software from ten years ago sitting on my desk as a trophy.

"You can't login ma'am? Do you have a printer plugged in to our dongle? Yes? Please remove that and your program should work. What do you mean that's not a satisfactory solution?..."


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Nevermore on December 13, 2011, 01:20:13 PM
Do you have a printer plugged in to our dongle?

That sounds painful.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Lantyssa on December 13, 2011, 02:42:18 PM
USB isn't too bad, but the days of parallel ports were rough.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Fordel on December 13, 2011, 03:02:19 PM
That's about what I paid for my WoW one too when those first came out.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: caladein on December 13, 2011, 03:51:35 PM
That's about what I paid for my WoW one too when those first came out.

Yeah, with the basic shipping and tax it's a whole nine cents more than I paid for my WoW one three years ago.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: luckton on December 13, 2011, 04:37:37 PM
Hmm...I guess no one's interested in the entire Security Key store one gets access to when you use an authenticator.  WoW gave us, what, a two-headed fire-puppy?


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Sjofn on December 13, 2011, 04:46:12 PM
I have no idea what's IN the store, so no, I don't care at the moment.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Lantyssa on December 13, 2011, 05:04:55 PM
I have no idea what's IN the store, so no, I don't care at the moment.  :awesome_for_real:
Exactly.  I noticed it added with whichever beta, couldn't access it, and couldn't buy a key to test it.  If I get a security token, it'll be because I want the security.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Merusk on December 13, 2011, 05:15:54 PM
Yeah the physical key isn't a USB lock, it's a numeric generator like WoW's, however that tech works.  I have theories but can't be arsed to look up if I'm right.

The token has a unique seed number that generates a code every 30 sec or 1 minute based on what time it is; the authentication server on the other end knows your seed number as well so it can also generate the same number. Then it just compares them and lets you in if they match.

Oh good, my theory was correct.  yay.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Sjofn on December 13, 2011, 05:44:28 PM
I mean, don't get me wrong, it's probably a good way to encourage people to get a security thingy, it's just hard to get excited about a store that, for all I know, has low level medpacs on it or something and nothing else.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Nevermore on December 13, 2011, 06:31:37 PM
You'll be changing your tune if it turns out that vendor sells pink bunny slippers!


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Sjofn on December 13, 2011, 06:39:44 PM
I have an authenticator winging its way here as we speak either way.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: luckton on December 14, 2011, 02:26:29 AM
iOS version is out, but reports are that it doesn't work yet.

http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/star-wars-the-old-republic/id488420295?mt=8

I don't have an iOS device anymore to confirm, but something about this seem fishy.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: Merusk on December 14, 2011, 03:25:54 AM
What.. you mean like the name of the seller being EA Swiss Sarl and not Electronic Arts?  That's a subsidiary of EA that does iphone games.   Considering iTunes apps have to go through that vetting and registration process I wouldn't be too worried.  If it were Android Marketplace only, sure, worry.


Title: Re: Security Key only 4 bucks!
Post by: caladein on December 14, 2011, 11:16:03 PM
AskAJedi (http://www.askajedi.com/2011/12/15/security-key-vendor-items-revealed/) has some vendor info up, highlights would be:

- A mouse droid (http://www.torhead.com/item/fvAGFV4) (different item from the CE one, no clue on model)
- Some companion customizations.
- A Fleet Pass (http://www.torhead.com/item/7ZbFD2T) for 100 credits.  Looking around on Torhead, it looks to be consumable (since it stacks) and on an hour cooldown (from a spell with the same name (http://www.torhead.com/ability/cBRSpTS)).
- Some cosmetic armor, Imperial Dancer's (http://www.torhead.com/search/Imperial%20Dancer's) or Republic Dancer's (http://www.torhead.com/search/Republic%20Dancer's).
- An R3 speeder (http://www.torhead.com/item/c9cFZZC).