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(http://i.imgur.com/r6WrI.png)

That isn't funny at all sir.  :angryfist:

At least we can't tank in a dress...

(Unless you're a Shadow or Assassin.)

I'm stealing that picture, thank you.

No shit, perfect defense of the anti-clown button.

Not seeing the problem. That trooper is obviously a multi-role specialist.

Cool, they patched in teh gay?  :why_so_serious:

(http://u.jimdo.com/www14/o/s35c8a4a0c4297198/img/i01f40aba05e4f754/1313257650/thumb/image.jpg)

Sweetie, no self-respecting friend-of-Dorothy would be seen anywhere in mismatched gloves and shoes. But I think they took out the chest coordination button because it also changed the color of your lightsaber, and, as everyone knows, matching *everything* is worse than not matching your accessories. The only class that can get away with it is the Booty Bounty Hunter because he's well, you know, flaming.

And that background chick looks like a meth'd up tranny mess.

The companion just looks like she REALLY LIKES THESE SHOES OKAY?

Do not speak ill of Elara!!!

Look -- she's messed up. Her eyes have left her face and are BUGGING OUT OF THE TOP OF HER HEAD. She's seriously fucked up.

What, you never had a bad day?

Bah, I still think trooper guy is faaaaabulous!  :grin:

Looks like a character WayAbvPar would make...

I've worn the helmet Elara is wearing for like 6 levels, it's as tragic as it looks.

And I just noticed how the size of the ear covers on the helmet are big enough to allow for protection of stylishly braided hair buns. Now *there's* a manufacturer clearly thinking about its target market.

How bout a video

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/world-of-warcraft-machinima-blizz-blues-12-days-of-smack-talkin/

That was pretty damn good.

This one is just as good

http://www.gamebreaker.tv/world-of-warcraft-blizz-blues-39-the-old-republicans/

Oh, that is pretty good. And probably a pretty good estimation of how some people are actually going to respond.

Many laughs!

Yes, still they won't go back to WoW unless Pandaria has companions and voice-overs.

Anyone else think the mmo of the future is just going to be you playing with an entire community of npc's?

I think TOR NPC-galore is direct response to "LF2M healer & tank" DIKU problem. People are not averse to grouping with others, but they generally don't like dealing with logistics and scarcity of undesirable roles.

Win.

Actually, I think it's probably better for healers and tanks. Most previous pet classes were dps, with a tank or dps pet. Being able to solo as a tank with a healer pet is pretty cool. Rounding out duos is extra cool.

Logistics is really my main barrier to grouping more. People will begin to hate me in TOR, I afk at the drop of a hat. Or cat. Or tune. Hell, I played feign death classes in EQ/EQ2 so I could afk more easily.  :grin:

not to derail pic thread but companions will only be good if they allow you to do things 'that matter' I mean that if your power level is still the same as a character in a game like wow where you can already solo as a tank or healing class then having a companion is only useful for the storyline. There is a very real danger that every class in swtor just becomes a pet class by default and when it comes to high end dungeons or raids you still need to LFG, thereby defeating the whole point of companions in the minds of many.

Even if with your companion you come out to the same power level as in classical MMO solo play, they also work well as training wheels for grouping. Through the companions, healing ACs can actually have solo gameplay that's similiar to grouping by sending your tank companion forward and then supporting it. Same, but inversed, for tank classes. Whereas in WoW you would likely use different powers/rotations when soloing.

Of course, since I only played to the end of Coruscant my impression might still be completely wrong.

Companions are awesome.  But they aren't used in operations and instanced pvp.  They are also a liability in high level flashpoints.

Even if decked out in purple-modded crafted gear?

That would be an interesting experiment.

When I say a liability, I'm saying for the average person.  Essentially doing a flashpoint at level 45 with leveling gear and your companion's gear is a bit inferior to yours.  Your companion will be a liability.

Coming back once you have great gear, as does your companion, and helping out another player with you and your companion in some easy flashpoints is a different story.  It also depends on the player's ability to use companion skills manually at the right time rather than letting the UI do it too.

I'm sure hardmode flashpoints will require a full human group unless the group is over geared.

Hardmodes I get.  But normal-mode stuff?  If I and my friend have our companions decently geared, we should be able to plow through.  I think if I and my friend were tank/healer and just had dedicated DPS companions, it'd be even more awesome.

It really probably depends on player skill.  Say you are both the tank and the healer.  Can you effectively tell your companions to both focus fire down a single target and micro manage them?

If you can you miiiiiiight do well if you out level a few things.  I haven't done a high level flashpoint for a few builds, the last one being at Bioware studios.  That shit was hard.  It requires good dps and being able to switch targets quickly.

One fight had three bosses and only one target was attackable at a time, and that target switched.  Essentially shields were rotating through the three bosses.  Can you tank, heal and make sure your companions are attacking the same target?

Honestly, I really don't know how well some companions scale with gear and how they do.  My only experience is with companions in green/blue stuff of random levels.

So basically, all classes are pet classes and you will still need to LFG at high levels. That sucks.

What? Were you planning to play this game?

I've always been planning to play this game, probably a month or so out the gate of course,  I've no doubt I'll get the box price out of it at the very least.

Out of curiosity, has anyone tried going for lots of gear with Presence on it and seeing how much of a difference it makes to yours pet? Actually, is there much gear with Presence on it along with other stats that would benefit your character?

I know you're a giant douchetroll, but I still don't understand what you were expecting here. 

All classes are not pet classes.  Every class operates independently of their companion.

So folks who played pet classes in other games have a slight advantage, I guess. Directing a pet around is a skill, even if these guys make pets from other games look a bit one-dimensional.

I'm not trolling here and you're being obtuse.  Whether every class in this game needs a pet to solo or be effective, every class in this game still HAS a pet.  If you can't effectively run high end stuff with them as though they were another player then they are just there for an added bit of dps/healing or tanking. Thy are in fact pets like in every other mmo.  An eq necro or enchanter could solo just fine without ever using their pets, but they were still pet classes.

You don't need to use your companion, it will just be tougher on you at times. 

Early on at least you pretty much have to use your companion to get past any gold elites, unless you wait and outlevel them by a bunch I suppose.  But that doesn't bother me personally since I like the whole companion system.

Don't get me wrong I will use my companion whenever possible.  You just don't have to.

Yes companions act like a pet in any other MMO, but the classes aren't pet classes.  No one is defined by their companion.  There is a difference here.

I teamed up with another Sage and we tried to do Hammer Station duo.  We managed to finish of most of it (and found a level 50 pants, heh) but the nature of the last fight made us give up.  We were slightly over the suggested levels.  That loss may have been due to fight mechanics because the boss guy kept leashing and healing.  We WERE able to beat the multiple gold named guys by spreading them out.  Tough but possible. 

You are awesome.  :thumbs_up:

So, let's try and balance out the picture to post ratio here.

What I'm sure all of us will be doing Tuesday morning...

Not enough in-game shots to load up a thread yet. Or shall we start an image association game in the thread?

(http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/11/11931/12217849.jpg)

(http://www.thedailyblink.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/243_poster.jpg)

Walkers. With sunglasses. :drill:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/715562/swtor1.jpg)

lol.

I hadn't actually seen a screenshot of the game. But it's absolutely amazing that this long after SWG they managed to make a game that looks like SWG with updated shaders.

From the forums:

Guy kills mob. Mob falls to unreachable place. Mob taunts him with big purple loot middle finger.

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff383/Feskitt/TORpurplescrew-over.jpg)

Thaaaaaat sucks.

That's what he gets for being an elitist early accesser trying to take all of the purpz.

Well played, Sir.

Took this screenshot shortly after starting my new Jedi character....

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/41488/swtor_hulk.jpg)

These NPCs were standing here in Tattooine in this position.

(http://i.imgur.com/JEFqY.jpg)

There are a number of those kind of little flavor set pieces all over...and some (like that one) are daaaark.

There's a number on Nar Shadaa, too.   If I had my new rig I'd take a picture but it will look like shit w/ this one since everything's on low.

Someone get a picture of the golden shower girls at the hutt statue on the Promenade.

There is a Wookiee winning a chess match VS. a droid on Hutta in the cantina. You can tell, because the droid is missing arms.

You mean the Wookiee is losing or lost ;)

 :awesome_for_real:

Image size fail.

Luckton, please. You'll poke someone's eye out with those. Please practice safe image linking.

Well it looks fine on my 30"  :-P  :drill: :why_so_serious:

Size queen. :p

(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-DF5xBvt/0/L/i-DF5xBvt-L.jpg)

Penny Arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/12/21/)

(http://i.imgur.com/IP0mI.jpg)

 :drill: :drill: :drill: :drill: :drill:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20557826/cad.jpg)

My own alignment is a mess. At 19th level, I believe I'm at a net of +100 lightside. Here's hoping for that Neutral gear they said may come...

Some of the orange gear I got says "Forbidden to light1 and above" instead of "Requires dark1" so it's essentially neutral.  I'm going to hoard any orange gear I get just incase I flip or go neutral.

I've seen that as well. However, I'm no SWTOR itemization expert and couldn't tell you if that means there is high-end gear in this "forbidden" bracket, or if that's only lower level stuff. It's still possible high end "affinity gear" is better than anything you can get if you're neutral.

I got a green saber crystal that says forbidden to dark 1 and above so there is more than just orange gear with it.

Note some of the gear which says "forbidden to X" does that as result of mods placed inside. E.g. a lighsaber with red crystal (that's forbidden to light 1+) will say it's forbidden to light 1+ as well, but it doesn't necessarily have to mean the lightsaber model itself can't be used by light 1+ character, once you pull the offending crystal out.

Cantina romances are in...

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s183/ec1016/Screenshot_2011-12-22_22_12_10_355959.jpg)

Really?  Ok, well, give me a few thousand years and I'll get back to you on that. (http://i.imgur.com/nDXCl.jpg)   :why_so_serious:

Virgin Mobile (http://i.imgur.com/Gtrwg.jpg)

Kind of clever.

Today's Penny Arcade seems oddly familiar to me somehow:

(http://penny-arcade.smugmug.com/photos/i-3vkFbxG/0/L/i-3vkFbxG-XL.jpg)

I don't know what you're talking about.  :oh_i_see:

Whom is playing Gabe and whom is playing Kara in your version?

While I did not get jealous when Ingmar flirted with Random Female NPC (HE got mad when I'd win a roll where he had a [flirt] option, though :why_so_serious:), I did relentlessly tell him what a terrible Jedi he was for nailing his padawan.

I would seriously love to be a fly on the wall in your home one day.

If there's a flirt option I'll willing pass on the roll.  I'm not getting in the way of anyone's space booty.

Speaking of flirting, I know I'm a bit biased, but are almost all the options for women unappealing?  The first guy I even considered decent enough to be worth my time was on Alderaan, and that was part of the Inquisitor storyline.  Everyone else has been scum of the galaxy types.  Playing with a male character in a duo they're getting to mack on females who don't make me want to stab them as my first thought.  Not necessarily nice or sane, but not "You, out the airlock.  Now!" levels of eye-gouging either.

Depends on your opinion of Captain Quinn as a Sith Warrior, I suppose.  He's the only companion I've seen that I can't imagine women not wanting to airlock.

Do BH females even get a romance option?  If it's Galt.. wow.. sorry 'bout your luck.  Torian seems too much on the "kid" side of things to be any sort of comfortable option.

Skadge.



 :ye_gods:

Boot-licking, unthinking, Imperial lap-dog.  I didn't even want him on my ship.  Not worthy of a good airlocking though, this is true.

I'm surprised you're having a difficult time finding an appealing male partner.

I said I might be biased. :-P

The options aren't even people I'd consider having around as friends.  Nor am I speaking of just companions.

What's not to like about Khem Val?

My SW is hardcore Sith Empire all the way and appreciates the Toadying and obsequious behaviour of Mr. Quinn and wishes Vette would know her damn place.

I've gotten a bit tired of the gloom of the Empire that people so prefer, all the red and black and eeeeevil crap.

Playing my JC has been soothing and relaxing, it's probably my favorite at least through the Prologues I've played through (BH/SW/SI/JC/JK).

It's Torian Bieber.

This page needs more pics  :oh_i_see:

It's probably more entertaining to hear about here, to be honest.  :why_so_serious:


As for appealing dudes, I am a big, big, big fan of the scoundrel-y manwhore type (not so much in real life, mind you), so a lot of the dudes I get to flirt with as my smuggler (that AREN'T FUCKING CORSO WHITE KNIGHT RIGGS) make me happy. From what I hear, Doc (JK companion) will also please me in that regard. I only just met Andronikus as my manquisitor, he sounds too much like Oghren for me to consider. Lt. Boyfriend is boring, but nice enough. And since my consular is also boring, it's an adequate match.

They have generally seemed to go out of their way to make sure there are a wide variety of "types" for people, it just sort of sucks when the class you're playing is stuck with a type you cant' stand. There are women out there who think Corso is fucking awesome. I think those women are insane, but I don't really doubt they actually find him appealing. There are also ladies (often the same ones, I suspect) who think Doc is nothing but a slimeball. Meanwhile I am despairing because he is still SO FAR AWAY for my lady JK.

Meanwhile, there are female love options I think are 100% gross/unappealing/terrible/annoying that I know dudes are hot for. I find Kira nails-on-chalkboard-annoying. Ingmar actually likes her. Go figure!


EDIT: Oh, and I would indeed pass on [flirt]s for Ingmar, it was just ONE TIME I didn't remember he HAD a flirt option there and accidently cockblocked him. He didn't really miss anything, the line is just asking the lady out for dinner and her being open to the possibility, THE END.

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2143/lolfvn.jpg)

It really is part of the fun of MMO's though. Once content is introduced the players will react to it in extreme and interesting ways. Taken as a crowd it's an amazing machine for optimisation and exploitation of any weakness.

Although in this case it sounds like the flaw was identified and reported on the test server, so it's just the developers not realising that a persistent game is very sensitive to exploits and imbalances.

This scene still makes me laugh every time I see it.  Not just for the over the top hutt statue but for the girls dancing around in what appears to be urine.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/704172/F13%20Photos/Screenshot_2012-01-03_22_57_32_423368.jpg)

If your urine is that color, see a doctor.  :ye_gods:

Or you take b-complex pills.

(http://i.imgur.com/U4gWU.jpg)

What a class.

Personally, it would be greener... Like lemon/lime Gatorade. But yeah, That pic made me say the same thing.

You all fail at the understanding of the relationship between a liquid's color and the depth of said liquid.

Also:
Same tone and at 30-36" deep with ambient light vs. through-lights to give it a darker shade would be of similar color.   Geez.

This is now a truly jumentous thread. Mine is generally the colour of a good Chardonnay although without the refreshing bouquet or lively spritz on the tongue.

How, exactly, do you know how it tastes?

Obviously it's Hutt piss. Anyone here an expert on Hutt piss colour?



I'm actually a little bit worried that someone here might be such an expert.  :uhrr:

Edit: too many actually's.

 :awesome_for_real: followed by  :ye_gods:


That is all.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/33271127/grylls.jpg)

 :why_so_serious:

Do videos count?

Turn to the Bark Side. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ntDYjS0Y3w)

I think I'm just going to wait till they patch in the gay for my BH girl... the only male I can see being worth my time is Blizz and I'm not sure we're physically compatible. Besides, dear little Mako would get so jealous...

Need to be someone's sig

Talking of Mako, have a close look at her sometime. Where do her internal organs go?? There's no room in there for a liver! Or even kidneys! Girl needs a sammich or twelve.

She's a cyborg. We don't need all those messy organs.

Mako loves the cock...


 (http://i.imgur.com/Mlxz5.jpg)

Begun, the Meme Wars, have. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNDaG7YqaV4)

Roxbury and pony got me good.

The second Roxbury take at 5:38 matches so well it can't be a coincidence :awesome_for_real:

Delicate you want, it's delicate you get.  :oh_i_see:

That's just fabulous. The stripper had me snickering out loud here.

The Roxbury thing slayed me.

Oh god, the Rodian/Duros Roxbury Guys... :awesome_for_real:

Also loving how they managed to find gloves/bracers for the Merc Stripper that looked like cowboy cuffs. Fucking magic.

That's enough Manneus.... Manoyaise...

That was a pretty good vid.

"... Tharan, i said Holliday and you were to hack in the network room..."

(http://i44.tinypic.com/i70qh1.jpg)

(nothing takes tension out of dramatic storyline mission like your entire crew deciding to surprise you and do it in nothing but their underwear for some reason)


(http://i43.tinypic.com/dwcj8k.jpg)

Apparently the Clone Trooper program started considerably earlier than widely believed.

Falling through the world, eventually you appear way up in the sky. Then splat. Dunno why this happens to me about once a day, no one else seems to complain about it.


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/rattra/falling.jpg)

Having noticed your SW is called Eccles, I now cannot get the notion out of my head that he and Bluebottle are doing the falling away from the mic bit in the Goon Show...

Man, that whole sequence where people kept appearing on my holocomm naked was so bizarre. And it's ... it's not the last scene where everyone except your "real" companion decides pants are optional.

Lord Scourge decided to scourge his pants via holocom in one of my later conversations. It really REALLY ruined the moment. It was all epic win then suddenly  :ye_gods:

Lord Eccles Seagoon, for a double reference that's obscure to Americans!

I am here because of how much win this contains.  Also because my damn launcher is updating, I have crap bandwidth, and I'm bored.

 :awesome_for_real:

Brilliant.

I had a LOTRO dwarf called Grytpype for a while.

HAH.  Love that.  Is there a website with a collection of these things?  I've been looking for that "Get to the choppa" one too

(http://i.imgur.com/yLzk6.jpg)

Karagga's hat fits right on top of a hood. This is our Sentinel, she looks ridiculous.

... It certainly does. I see they've also challenged WoW in the extreme shoulders competition.

Please, those shoulders are down right tame.

Go find a picture of top tier Trooper PvP gear.  :why_so_serious:

We get heat sinks on our shoulders! It's great!

All that stockstriking really causes friction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Ji1BNwzJw

Wait a tick.. this game supports multiple monitors and I've been playing on one?
Fuuuuck.

Seems to simply be an ability of Windows to allow multiple displays if your video cards support it, and provide a fake "screen resolution" of 3072 x 768 for example (3 x the witdth, 1x the height) to software running under it.  Basically, Windows stretches your screen, not SWTOR.

Note that SWTOR does NOT allow you to move UI elements, and also I haven't seen the ability to change the viewing "angle" so that the side displays aren't super-deformed.  It's why his screens are in front of him, instead of wrapping around him like the windows of a car; the side images are very deformed/stretched extensions of what's in front of his character, NOT what's to the left / right of his character.

Incidentally, if you set up the Windows desktops to have 3 separate desktops instead of 1 stretched one, and you run SWTOR in full screen mode in the center screen, with map and spoiler websites on the left and right, the game allows you to move the mouse outside the SWTOR screen area, but the moment you click a link or anywhere outside, it gets minimized and you get dumped to the character select screen.  Misclicks suck.  I also never realized just how much I rely on the mouse cursor stopping at the edge of the screen even if I continue to move the mouse.  Trying to click action bars is super-hard when your cursor disappears to the side screens.

EVE supports multiple screens from inside the game.  You can actually have 3 accounts, each running on its own screen, just fine.  Or, you can span the view but move the interface elements to the center or whatever.

EDIT:  Each video card has 2 video outputs typically, so to run that you need 2 cards in SLI or cross-fire mode.

"Fullscreen- Windowed" mode fixed this for me.   However I'm running as a stretched desktop, not 3 separate.

pics

BEHOLD!   EPISODE II!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UGRWzvzIPb8

 :drill: :drill: :drill:

Haha, oh god, I hope that guy keeps making more of those.

That shit is pretty lulzy.

Not as good as the first one, Mannayus.

Not quite as good, but still pretty damn funny.  Dear god, the bounty hunter dialog when taken out of context like that....

Seriously, it's shit like this that kinda keeps me from coming back...

Spoilered for size.

Players lining up to take silly screenshots keeps you from coming back? That happens in like, every MMO ever.

I know, but just the size of those things...good god..the grieving.  :ye_gods:

I really have no idea what the hell they were thinking when they came up with those, then decided to let people fly them in the fleet. If I'm at a Market Terminal and one of "those guys" flies up - I disappear. Completely. It fills up my whole damn screen.

Those all need to be removed from city zones. Use 'em out in the world if you want, but in town you get your little putter.

lol for reals

Those really need to be "outdoor only" vehicles. Segways for fleet...

So 40 seconds ago.

Here, have some Lego.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--uNmiULbmeo/TzvR0IdGIhI/AAAAAAAAHAk/ACGGaKkQemE/s1600/lego+swtor.jpg)

New Legacy Vehicles revealed

You know what I hate? They let you ride those wagons in Fleet but they don't let you duel in fleet. They didn't even put up a small area up there where you can duel your friends while waiting for the next WZ to start. What the hell.

In the modern age your fond memories are the fuel for merchandise... but then I guess that is part of the legacy of star wars as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4OnDizZ7UT0#!

I don't even like star wars, but that hurt.

HAHAHAHAHA the Emperor dancing is soooooo fucking creepy.  :ye_gods: :awesome_for_real:  :why_so_serious:

They TOTALLY need to have the emperor dancing to Thriller...

At least the music is good.

Speaking of...

Khem Val: Do not think that your moves impress me, little Sith. I was taught to dance by Tulak Hord, the Disco Lord.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/715562/khemdance.jpg)

fuck yes that is awesome