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Ok, need to make something clear first: Artifact items is an equivalent to Epic items in other games(like WoW).

So it's pretty much all the gear you get towards and in the end-game.

In the release build, there is one change that takes away everything I loved about the Item Customization in this game, and the change is:
"- Modifiable Artifact quality items now only feature modification and enhancement slots."

Now let me explain in a newcomer terms, what that means:

Before the change, all higher quality items had Modification Slots. For example in a lightsaber you had a Hilt slot, color crystal slot, enhancement slot and Mod slot.

All the modifications came with stats, color crystal determined lightsaber color and hilt changed the quality and base stats of the item, in this case min-max damage.

You could swap around the modifications as much as you like so if you found a cooler looking lightsaber that had better hilt and color crystal but poor enhancement and mod, you could mix and match both of them to create a new lightsaber with the look and stats you want.

Now with the change introduced in this build, most of the Artifact items(purple, epic quality items) Have only 2 slots, mod slot and enhancement slot, both of them just add stats to the weapon, so you can't remove the important modification, like the hilt, and use it in the lightsaber of your choice to bring it to the same level of that epic weapon(stat-wise).

What it means is that if you go to a raid(operation) and an epic lightsaber drops, you won't be able to take the parts from it and jam in your favourite lightsaber, making it essentialy the same item stats wise but suited to your likings.

Same goes for armor slots, now if you are raiding as a bounty hunter, you will have to look like every other raiding bounty hunter or suffer from decreased stats, armor and base item damage.

Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.

Seriously, why? This and the removal of the anti-clown option are pretty big downers for me.

Not true as of last build at least. Weapon damage scaled with the rating of mods you placed in them. The patch notes that others are freaking about are more to do with artifact quality items being reduced to only having 2 possible mod slots making blues better than them, or something to that effect.

This is my experience with the current build as well. I actually was able to bring my original lightsaber back out of retirement because I got a few new mods. I had to replace it with a green-quality lightsaber for a while because it had better numbers without mods.

Ugh. Ugh. Ugh.

Seriously, why? This and the removal of the anti-clown option are pretty big downers for me.

Wait, what? It has a Appearance tab somewhere?

If the mod system is supposed to supplement not having a appearance tab, its an extremely convoluted way of going about it.

The anti-clown button matched the colours of your gear to your chest piece.

I can't imagine they would go back on that.

All this seems to do is not let you take a some of the mods out of the Artifact items.  It doesn't mean you still can't get Artifact level mods in other ways and put it on your other gear.  I think it's more so that it will give some people a reason to use the higher level gear.

Yeah, I think everyone's worried because it wasn't in the latest patch notes.

I don't think you should worry about the mod system.  Every event that I covered, the devs spent at least 10-15 minutes talking about how if you want to dress like a sand person and mod it with all the raid mods, you would be able to do it.

I can't imagine they would go back on that.

Well, it's not in the new build, either...

It sounds to me as somebody who hasn't played the game yet that the previous system was allowing people to create unanticipated combinations (read overpowered) and they want to reduce the chances of that with artifact-level gear.

It's likely a combination of that and you could, for example, carry your L10 saber all the way to L50 and make it epic/legendary/whatever it with mods, it somewhat reduces the need to do the end game content (or buy RMT).

It's likely a combination of that and you could, for example, carry your L10 saber all the way to L50 and make it epic/legendary/whatever it with mods, it somewhat reduces the need to do the end game content (or buy RMT).

Wasn't that pretty much the point of the modification system though? Find a piece of gear you really like the look of and continue to improve it as you progress through the game? This change, as described, seems to shit all over that concept.

It seems to just mean that artifact quality gear won't be as heavily alterable as non artifact quality gear. But you can still rice the fuck out of your starting blaster if you so desire.

I'm actually a little worried they are planning to drop the mod system partly for an appearance tab.   That wouldn't be the end of the world but full modding is a lot better to me for some reason.   


The mod you need to rice your starting blaster COMES from the artifact gear.    There's no other source of raid quality mods.   

This is pretty terrible since the raid gear looks absolutely hideous.

Really starting to struggle with where this kind of design thinking comes from.

Well how else will they get us to wear shit like...

I'm pretty sure you can't. They said the mod that changes base stats (dps/armor) will now be locked in to the item.

Good to see they copied WoW's stupid shoulder pads as well  :uhrr:

We will be posting a detailed description of our item modding strategy soon. It should answer a lot of questions/concerns.

It's likely a combination of that and you could, for example, carry your L10 saber all the way to L50 and make it epic/legendary/whatever it with mods, it somewhat reduces the need to do the end game content (or buy RMT).

@JamesOhlen https://twitter.com/#!/JamesOhlen/status/143812203034836992 (https://twitter.com/#!/JamesOhlen/status/143812203034836992)

Here's an idea:  Keep the mod system for people who want to upgrade items with care, but add an appearance tab.  An appearance tab is the easiest implementation possible.  Also bring back the anti-clownsuit button.

Here's an idea:  Keep the mod system for people who want to upgrade items with care, but add an appearance tab.  An appearance tab is the easiest implementation possible.  Also bring back the anti-clownsuit button.

So, it turns out some of the patch notes regarding our modding system were probably poorly written (by me, I must add) and generated quite a lot of concern. I’ll try to explain the changes better and, while I'm at it, explain the logic for those changes.

To start with, we’ve introduced a new color and item type: the Custom items. Those are shown with an orange border and are fully moddable. This change is purely cosmetic. What we have done is take all fully moddable Prototype items (blue) and simply changed their icon color. This helps us create a better and more unique identity for fully moddable gear.

Since other games have used orange to signify truly rare and epic gear, let me clarify that orange in Star Wars: The Old Republic has nothing to do with 'epic' gear. (And for those curious, our version of 'epic' is a very deep purple, bordering on a rich blue). The orange we use is actually the old bronze color we developed a long time ago when our color coding was based on metals (bronze, silver, gold, platinum, etc).

Custom gear is actually pretty common: it can be obtained through class quests around level 8, as social gear, as space quest rewards and as light side / dark side gear. It is also the typical gear found in Flashpoints and as rewards for Heroic missions. Several pieces can be acquired using planetary commendations.

The second change introduced in the latest build is the locking down of the base mods (Armoring, Barrel, Hilt) and color crystal mod on the Artifact items (purple). To explain this change, I need to also explain the history of the the modding system...

So, the first version of the modding system had many issues. It is amazing that a system that is only a few months old is already quite misremembered, but that’s because while the system implementation was less than stellar, players really liked the concept that tried to shine through and now remember it much more fondly that it truly deserves. The main issues of the old system were as follow:

- There were too many different modifications. Sure, the mods had a lot of flavor and made sense: triggers and scopes for guns, underlays and overlays for armors, power cells and crystals for Lightsabers, etc. But in the end, keeping the mods in all gear up to date every few levels was a major pain on the players’ side. Remember, at that time, mods could not be extracted - so a replacement for each and every one of those mods had to be individually located every few levels. And let me tell you, creating and maintaining all those tens of thousands of mods on our end was also not exactly sustainable.

- Some items only had a few mod slots. I know everyone by now remembers a 'perfect' world where everything was moddable, but that simply wasn’t the way it worked. Most premium (green) items did not have a full set of slots and which slots weren't present was a bit random. So, you could find a purple trigger and get all excited about fitting it on your moddable gun - until you realized the gun mysteriously had a scope slot, but not a trigger slot. Of course, your next gun could have a trigger but no scope. This left many players scratching their heads.

- Once slotted, a mod could not be removed. This had a very perverse effect: players would find a really good mod - say a purple overlay - but would really hesitate in slotting it into an armor. What if they find a cooler looking armor next level? Many players would end up saving their good mods for later and ended up over leveling them.

- Mods that were crafted or purchased were most of the time inferior to the mod already slotted onto a prototype (blue) item. This made the entire mod system somewhat useless. One of the main reason was that crafters could not create good mods. Reverse engineering - the main method to obtain prototype and artifact (blue and purple) crafted items - did not work on mod.

- Modding was only done at a workbench. This made it rather cumbersome as the players had to hunt down a workbench before they could fit a new mod into one of their items.

So, to summarize: in the old system, you could not take any piece of gear, fit it with the best mods and keep it all the way to the end levels: a lot of the green gear did not have all the slots, the mods that could be obtained were for the most part... not good, and you could not extract better one from existing gear.

So... things had to change. Because despite all those warts, some of the players who tested the system really liked the concept: that a player could find an appearance they really like and work to keep it relevant all the way to end game. So, we knew we were on to something and we also knew the old system was just not delivering.

Those changes took time to implement. Some of them concerned large amounts of data and some required new code. Unfortunately, not everything could be implemented on time for each testing build and, in some of the builds, testers were exposed to a very raw and partially completed new system. However, today, we are close to where we want to be - but not quite there yet (more on that later).

So, the changes we made are:

- Item modding can now be done anywhere at anytime. No workbench required.

- Crafters can now reverse engineer mods and create blue and purple mods.

- A new Custom quality (orange) was introduced to legitimize moddable items as their own quality and type. This isn’t a big deal but does clarify things a little.

- Mods can now be extracted from a Custom item. This is the single most important change and has many, many consequences. However, we feel that being able to slot a mod and then extract it back truly opens up the system and makes it a lot more fun, easy and safe to experiment with. I’m not 100% happy about how the system interface and GUI works today (it is still a bit clunky) but at least it is functional.

- Rather than have a whole bunch of unique mod types, some mods are now common to all items. This greatly helps players who are 'going the mod route’ to stay relevant and competitive as they now have a much higher chance to find exactly the mods they need, level after level, be it from a crafter, at a planetary commendation vendor or by extracting it from another item.

- Partially moddable premium (green) items were removed as they essentially lied to the players: an item missing a mod slot would never be able to match a high end non-moddable item. Instead, to compensate for the loss of diversity, orange versions of all green armors was created and given to the crafters. So, yes, if you see a green armor you really like, you still can have that appearance until end level. It does take a bit of work - you either need to become a crafter yourself, befriend one or trawl the GTN.

(Note: recipes for those orange appearances are discovered through Underworld Trading missions.This allows us to have a truly large number of those recipes without overwhelming the crafting trainer inventory. As a side effect, this opens up class quest green armor appearances from other classes as well as long as you fulfill the armor requirements.)

- End game artifact quality (purple) gear is now partially moddable. Why moddable? Because that allows the players to customize stats such as critical, etc. to their exact desire. Why only partially? Because mods are now extractable... Think of it this way: it is easier to defeat the first boss from an Operation than the last boss. So we want to reward the players with the best possible loot for defeating the last boss and that loot is typically the Chest piece of a set. The first boss drops less interesting stuff, say boots. This may sound old school, and it is. But by doing so, we ensure that both players that get rewarded by looks and those rewarded by stats are properly rewarded for taking on the most difficult challenges.

Now, if purple gear was fully moddable, players would simply farm the first boss, acquire 5 pair of boots, extract the armoring, mod and enhancements from the boots and slots them in their favorite Custom items. That actually sounds cool, but it really isn’t. Letting players extract the armoring mod from the purple items would trivialize end game gear progression and stop rewarding successful and dedicated players for their efforts.

So, instead of letting that happen, we prevented the Armoring, Hilt and Barrel from being extracted, but we also made sure of dropping purple Armoring mods of equivalent power as Operation loot. This means that players going the mod route can still take their favorite orange armor and make it as good as a operation purple armor (with some temporary caveats).

- Some crafting recipes that allowed the creation of moddable armors and weapons have been replaced with non-moddable versions. Why the nerf? Because those recipes were no longer properly balanced once we allowed mod extraction. It became far cheaper and faster to create an item for the sole purpose of extracting every mods out of it than creating mods in the first place. This also allowed nearly every crafter to create every type of mods, which wasn’t very balanced either. Instead, the crafter can now make a non-moddable item for those players that enjoy that and, thanks to newly introduced recipes, a moddable (but empty slotted) version of the item.

Now, with those changes, we are closer to an actual implementation of our modding philosophy than ever before. Is it perfect? No, not yet. There are still some imbalances here and there (and I trust this community to let us know loud and clear if we miss any) but it is close and the remaining issues are on their way to be fixed. Of course, it would help to clarify what that philosophy is:

To put it simply, we want moddable items to offer an alternate and optional loot system that allows players to customize their look and their stats with more freedom and without penalty for doing so.

However there are many times where it will be easier for a player to just put on whatever stuff they just looted and not care about the way it looks. Keeping a specific outfit or weapon “up to date” or obtaining a specific look may require additional time and dedication, such as finding a crafter that can create that specific smuggler shirt or that rare color crystal.

I hope this clarifies things a little. As always, we are very much interested to hear what you all have to say on the system, but at least you now have a bit more information to go on - and of course, in a very short time, you will all be able to test this on the live servers.

Anyway, thanks to all of you who have been helping with the test of the game and offered your very passionate opinions - on this subject and others. Testing a beta isn’t easy. Things changes all the time, some stuff isn’t finished and nothing seems to make sense without the benefit of knowing what’s going on behind the scene. So thanks again and I hope to have the chance of meeting each and every one of you in game.

"That actually sounds cool, but it really isn’t. Letting players extract the armoring mod from the purple items would trivialize end game gear progression and stop rewarding successful and dedicated players for their efforts.

- End game artifact quality (purple) gear is now partially moddable. Why moddable? Because that allows the players to customize stats such as critical, etc. to their exact desire. Why only partially? Because mods are now extractable... Think of it this way: it is easier to defeat the first boss from an Operation than the last boss. So we want to reward the players with the best possible loot for defeating the last boss and that loot is typically the Chest piece of a set. The first boss drops less interesting stuff, say boots. This may sound old school, and it is. But by doing so, we ensure that both players that get rewarded by looks and those rewarded by stats are properly rewarded for taking on the most difficult challenges.

Now, if purple gear was fully moddable, players would simply farm the first boss, acquire 5 pair of boots, extract the armoring, mod and enhancements from the boots and slots them in their favorite Custom items. That actually sounds cool, but it really isn’t. Letting players extract the armoring mod from the purple items would trivialize end game gear progression and stop rewarding successful and dedicated players for their efforts.

So, instead of letting that happen, we prevented the Armoring, Hilt and Barrel from being extracted, but we also made sure of dropping purple Armoring mods of equivalent power as Operation loot. This means that players going the mod route can still take their favorite orange armor and make it as good as a operation purple armor (with some temporary caveats).

Why not just makes mod item-class specific?  This avoids the "farming the first boss problem."

And why the hell would an armor mod not be piece specific? Boots to boots, gloves to gloves? meh...

Why not just makes mod item-class specific?  This avoids the "farming the first boss problem."

I forsee no one wearing custom armor, because the numerically superior mods are locked into the "epic items".

but we also made sure of dropping purple Armoring mods of equivalent power as Operation loot. This means that players going the mod route can still take their favorite orange armor and make it as good as a operation purple armor

Is there something about these "operations" whatever they are that makes these alleged alternative mods not possible to acquire, or smth?

Wouldn't an "appearance tab" just allow you to change colors?

...in a very short time, you will all be able to test this on the live servers

That actually sounds cool, but it really isn’t. Letting players extract the armoring mod from the purple items would trivialize end game gear progression and stop rewarding successful and dedicated players for their efforts.

Why not just makes mod item-class specific?  This avoids the "farming the first boss problem."

This is what gets me. How does it trivialize gear progression?

"- Item modding can now be done anywhere at anytime. No workbench required."

Wasnt the station only needed to remove a mod and not lose it? 

 I've hear the the lowest level difficulty ratings are very easy, and I can quote the end-game dev that each operation should take 2-4 hours to clear on easy mode.

So I can run the level 50 zone with my friend in level 12 gear and mod my gear to insane levels?

 I would of would HAVE supported

To me the implication is simply that the mod drops will be spread through the bosses like the regular ones. Result being, you can't simply farm the first easy boss for all your needs.

To me the implication is simply that the mod drops will be spread through the bosses like the regular ones. Result being, you can't simply farm the first easy boss for all your needs.

It feels like mods were originally supposed to be SWTOR's version of WoW's jewelcrafting, but somewhere along the way it started resembling an appearance customization system, and now they can't figure out which one they want it to be or a way for it to be both.

 So I guess they will just make these mods drop from end bosses only.

 I've hear the the lowest level difficulty ratings are very easy, and I can quote the end-game dev that each operation should take 2-4 hours to clear on easy mode.

4 hours isn't what I'd call casual.

The most important answer we need is - are there decent light armour pants for Sith Assassins to wear that can be modded so they don't end up running around the place in a skirt all the time?

This is important because god DAMN those robes/dresses look terrible.

I dunno 4 hours a week to raid isn't horrible.

This is important because god DAMN those robes/dresses look terrible.

That's the assumption (how it works in WoW, so probably a safe assumption...)

It's like this.   Armor mods just had a simple "rating" and you could put them in ANY piece of armor to get full stats.   Which means you could get an entire suit of raid gear probably really fast since every single piece of gear that dropped would be equivalent to a piece you needed.

edit: and Ingmar could be right about the leg bend thing -- that's what makes it most obvious to me it's just lazily animated tube mesh.

Game is not even released yet and I am already getting a bitter taste in my mouth.  :oh_i_see:

Let me guess what's next, new armor models with bigger shoulders!

edit: spelling/proper space bar use.

4 hours isn't what I'd call casual.

How do you get through your daily life without just cutting yourself?

 :facepalm:

Really man?

It's the same length as a football game + the run to the store to get some beer.  That's pretty casual to me.

Edit:
Yeah, it's a lock out system.  You ahve 7 days to do those 4 hours.  And there are only like 5? 6? bosses per operation.

How will my dps meter look if I'm eating wings through the first two bosses?

 :grin:

All my robes flared plenty when they were at rest? Maybe they look shittier on ladies, I dunno, but all my dudes looked perfectly normal. As normal as dudes in robes can look, anyway.

Whose doing that in one sitting though?

Who needs the exact same group every day?

I'll still stick to my point about long multiplayer sessions, though. Would a raid put up with me taking 15 minutes to run to the store for more beer? Would a football crowd coordinate bathroom trips or pause the game every time someone leaves the room? How will my dps meter look if I'm eating wings through the first two bosses?

 :grin:

I like that you can do them over a couple nights, that's really good news :)

I'll still stick to my point about long multiplayer sessions, though. Would a raid put up with me taking 15 minutes to run to the store for more beer? Would a football crowd coordinate bathroom trips or pause the game every time someone leaves the room? How will my dps meter look if I'm eating wings through the first two bosses?

 :grin:

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I'm pretty sure Sky's point is that for exactly that reason, raids should not be 4 hours long.

I'm pretty sure Sky's point is that for exactly that reason, raids should not be 4 hours long.

Though since these raids are effectively divided into discrete smaller chunks (by including multiple bosses/objectives tackled one by one) and can be paused/resumed on each such 'checkpoint' doesn't that mean these raids only last 4 hours in single sitting if you want them to? Otherwise easily becoming 30-60 minute long bits if that's more to your liking?

I assume it mimics WoW :why_so_serious:

How would you feel if the drummer were doing that in the middle of a practice session or gig?  :why_so_serious:

Ah so you're the problem then.  Get some ADD meds!  :heart:

I assume it mimics WoW :why_so_serious:

I am getting a shipment of Spice at some point in the game even if it kills me.

Guess why I don't play in a band anymore, and now play solo classical guitar with the occasional PUG for a half-hour blues set at an open mic?  :drill: I can do this all day!  :why_so_serious:

Which does what?

You can, kind of.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Raid_lockout

tl;dr: if you kill a foozle and leave the dungeon, the foozle stays dead when you return until the dungeon resets which happens every X days. You aren't forced to re-visit with the exact same group.

Because I'll put money down that it doesn't mimic the current per-boss lockout scheme or the WOTLK addition of rolling-over a lockout to continue it the next week.

- The Operations lockout window now displays the current boss lockouts for your group members.

Well, it's a little more complex than that but that's good shorthand.

To answer the next question:  Which bosses are dead or not was determined by the raid leader.  

We're also assuming that they've gone ahead and fixed the Raid-ID-Theft exploit that Vanilla WoW had, allowing said exploiters to kill end-level bosses more than once per lockout period.

Not that I would want to go there, but I gather mindless repetition gives some people a hard-on?

 Surely you've witnessed the same in EvE.

As for armor animation; I haven't messed with many of the Jedi/Sith robes, but for some reason a nice chestpiece I picked up for my trooper during the beta gave him an ass-skirt for some reason. It was either really well animated or physically simulated because it definitely didn't do that weird "transforming tube" thing someone mentioned that like 90% of games with robes/etc do.

for some reason a nice chestpiece I picked up for my trooper during the beta gave him an ass-skirt for some reason. It was either really well animated or physically simulated because it definitely didn't do that weird "transforming tube" thing someone mentioned that like 90% of games with robes/etc do.

I'm not pretending to understand the mind of a dikumud raider so I'm not saying you are wrong (except in the EVE analogy) - just that raiders are strange people.

The only time enforced limitation in there is skill gain, and only if you choose to gain skill by training a character rather than buying one.

If you wanted to poopsock the market instead, nothing stops you.

I'm not pretending to understand the mind of a dikumud raider so I'm not saying you are wrong (except in the EVE analogy) - just that raiders are strange people.

The people in eve who want to mindlessly repeat missions/mining/whatever do so and we just let them get on with it.

Doesn't bother me in the slightest.

I'm not sure EVE even has an equivalent to raiding, just an equivalent to dungeons. (Which are not on the long lockouts described.)

The closest would probably be wormholes, you go into uncharted space with a bunch of ships, put up a POS, and stay as long as you like with group only PvE/mining all around.

Oh and surprise PvP if anyone ever finds you and probes you out.

Incursions start with instances that take 6 minutes each. Once enough of them are dead another instance that takes about 20 minutes spawns, following which everyone goes home for tea and medals.

Incursions are PQs.

Talking of which, I assume SWTOR doesn't have PQs?

The deadspace complexes don't reset as soon as you kill the final target, do they? Could swear they didn't when i played but that was quite few years back.

Talking of which, I assume SWTOR doesn't have PQs?

Satisfied with the color-matching post. In the meantime I will just save up pieces I like the look of.

from the moment it was turned on off, the player would perceive far less diversity in their loot that he looked like a fucking clown

I am like ... horribly broken by WoW at this point or something, because while the Trooper screenshot is, indeed, funny, I would not die of shame running around looking like that. I have worn far worse.

Of course, I've also refused to wear things because they were too whorish, I certainly have no qualms about saying "fuck it, fuck you, upgrade" and crushing it into a fine powder and dealing with it that way. When I'm leveling up, anyway.  :heart:

WoW has cosmetic slots now, though.  :oh_i_see:

Yeah, after a gazillion years. Of course, I immediately used it to make my mage look like this (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/moon-guard/Aendrys/simple). Because it makes me laugh. I have gotten a delightful number of "you ... dressed like that on purpose?" reactions.  :heart: :heart:

Yeah, after a gazillion years. Of course, I immediately used it to make my mage look like this (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/moon-guard/Aendrys/simple). Because it makes me laugh. I have gotten a delightful number of "you ... dressed like that on purpose?" reactions.  :heart: :heart:

Kind of, sort of.  It's nice at level 85 when you aren't replacing gear constantly, but I don't see how it's practical to use while leveling up.  So still clownsuits aplenty while leveling.

OMG!!! That is every UO character wayabvpar made.

I was a little more obvious (http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/defias-brotherhood/Itzena/simple) in my gearing. To be fair, fake-Judgement is awesome.  :drill:

(Also: Add Forsaken paladins, Blizz! Wait, this isn't the WoW forum....)

While I like what they're saying and look forward to the new system in the oven, I can understand why Fordel is the strident voice. I would be, too, if I was playing a trooper as my main. We'll see how much I end up bitching if I roll the trooper alt as I intend...Maybe I can call him Clinton.

Yeah, after a gazillion years. Of course, I immediately used it to make my mage look like this (http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/moon-guard/Aendrys/simple). Because it makes me laugh. I have gotten a delightful number of "you ... dressed like that on purpose?" reactions.  :heart: :heart:

(http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/shared-blogs/austin/shopping/upload/2009/04/what_not_to_wears_clinton_kell/clintonkelly.jpg)

INCOMING WALL OF TEXT!

That's an awesome outfit.  Most of mine would be simple and stylish low-level pieces.

Dye, and no, I don't think there's any dye in the game, alas. I suspect there are a couple versions of the same "set" color-wise, but like death knight armor must all be SKULLS SKULLS SKULLS, I suspect sith armor must be black, red, or if you're sassy, grey.

Sjofn just wants to wear a lime and hot pink jumpsuit.   :awesome_for_real:

It seems there's some purple, too:

(http://torwars.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/swtor_sith_inquisitor_purple_eyes.jpg)

City of Heroes 2?  :-P

It drives me crazy that there's no tooltip to compare mods equipped. I end up stripping down and putting my modding armour/weapons in my inventory so I can at least have both windows open at the same time.

When you just have a mod, such as the ones purchased with commendations, it doesn't compare them with currently equipped ones.

So just memorize (or maybe write down?) the stats of the mod you have in question and hover your mouse over your equipped stuff.

Best way to do this is bring up the vendor screen and your characters screen.  Look at one mod and then hover over your gear and compare.  The problem here is that you can't use a tooltip because Mods can be used in every piece of gear.  You don't want the mod to be compared to 8 pieces of gear at once on your screen.

Also see my edit.

Best way to do this is bring up the vendor screen and your characters screen.  Look at one mod and then hover over your gear and compare.  The problem here is that you can't use a tooltip because Mods can be used in every piece of gear.  You don't want the mod to be compared to 8 pieces of gear at once on your screen.


EDIT: OH!

There is an option in preferences to see Detailed Tooltips or something along those lines.  That might be your problem.  You might not be able to see the mods individually and this will help you tremendously.

You can't have a vendor window and your character window open at the same time.

Incorrect.

- Open the vendor window.
- Close your inventory window.
- Open your character window.
- Profit.

The one thing that drives me bonkers is how the item preview window places itself neatly over the "next page" button in the AH interface, and cannot be moved anywhere. :uhrr:

So, getting into my 20s, I'm noticing I only care about my class based primary stat, endurance, and armour/dps rating.

Is that all there is to gear in this game or do procs or other effects only come in later? I mean, I know they are aiming for even more bland than wow, but this seems a bit silly?