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Title: *ATTN* Actually, do erase the beta client.
Post by: luckton on November 29, 2011, 07:33:47 AM
It was announced just a few moments ago that the beta client from this weekend is planned to be patched to early-access/live code. Save yourself having to redownload 30GB of data!

https://twitter.com/#!/rockjaw/status/141535439839436801

FAQ: if you played this weekend you do NOT need to uninstall the #SWTOR client. We are planning to patch it to Early Game Access / Live.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Wolf on November 29, 2011, 07:41:40 AM
you mean like every other MMO that ever was?  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Merusk on November 29, 2011, 07:44:59 AM
They'd said before you'd have to redownload. 

I'm assuming someone finally found a few brain cells to rub together on that one and beat the ones who said no about the head and shoulders with them.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: luckton on November 29, 2011, 07:45:51 AM
you mean like every other MMO that ever was?  :oh_i_see:

False if yo consider every MMO made since Ultima.  It's about a 50/50 split of games that could patch up and others where the devs said "Install the GM from the boxed disc OR ELSE."

Plus one of the nagging things in the epic SWTOR thread was how big the client was, and how many didn't participate in the beta because of having to redownload everything at release.  Up until now, we had no confirmation of whether the beta would/could patch up or not.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: luckton on November 29, 2011, 07:47:47 AM
They'd said before you'd have to redownload. 

I'm assuming someone finally found a few brain cells to rub together on that one and beat the ones who said no about the head and shoulders with them.

It's the Mythic standard.  Always better to say "No, it's hardcoded, stop bothering us with it" and then saying "Oh hey, Jerry just got his Bachelor's in computer programming and figured out how to do it" than the opposite.  The former at least keeps the faithful faithful.  The ladder just disappoints everyone.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Rendakor on November 29, 2011, 07:48:15 AM
I don't think I've ever beta'd an MMO that let you patch that client to retail to be honest. Very nice feature, particularly because the client is so large.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on November 29, 2011, 07:56:47 AM
My client on disk is about 18ish gigs. What the heck are you guys downloading?


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Lantyssa on November 29, 2011, 07:59:00 AM
Mine's almost 40.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Reg on November 29, 2011, 07:59:40 AM
Wow. What could the difference possibly be? Mine's only 18 same as Bloodworth's.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on November 29, 2011, 07:59:52 AM
What the heck. Ninja downloading while you play? Old clients patched a bunch, but old files not removed?


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: cironian on November 29, 2011, 08:00:36 AM
Mine's almost 40.

So, you've got a bigger one than everybody else? :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Paelos on November 29, 2011, 08:16:01 AM
Mine's almost 40.

So, you've got a bigger one than everybody else? :why_so_serious:

We've know that for long time now.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Sky on November 29, 2011, 08:16:16 AM
The ladder just disappoints everyone.
You must be a stairs guy.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Amaron on November 29, 2011, 08:23:05 AM
My client on disk is about 18ish gigs. What the heck are you guys downloading?

My client two weeks ago was 18 gigs then I updated this weekend and it became 38 or whatever.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Ironwood on November 29, 2011, 08:26:34 AM
Damn you, Sky !

*Shakes Fist*


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Surlyboi on November 29, 2011, 08:36:24 AM
If he didn't, I would've.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Morfiend on November 29, 2011, 08:38:58 AM
If he didn't, I would've.



Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Threash on November 29, 2011, 08:52:54 AM
Is it too late to download it if i didn't bother to play?


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Lucas on November 29, 2011, 09:02:11 AM
Hopefully this means that, once servers are up again,  we'll be able to login and download the updates, even if we are not testers anymore (we'll just get the "play" button greyed out).
---

Ah, a couple important filters I hope they have once they implement a "flashpoint finder" : something akin to "roleplaying" and "don't want to skip dialogues" , so that players are put into like minded PUGs at least when it comes to the general behaviour while playing a flashpoint.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: TripleDES on November 29, 2011, 09:07:41 AM
I don't think I've ever beta'd an MMO that let you patch that client to retail to be honest. Very nice feature, particularly because the client is so large.
Both, EVE and SWG.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Jherad on November 29, 2011, 09:11:08 AM
My client on disk is about 18ish gigs. What the heck are you guys downloading?

My client two weeks ago was 18 gigs then I updated this weekend and it became 38 or whatever.

Yeah, I have 18.5 gigs on a fresh install. I'm guessing the 'update' was essentially a fresh install, retaining the old files (either in place with different names, or in a backup folder). How big is your assets folder?


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Sky on November 29, 2011, 09:13:20 AM
Damn you, Sky !

*Shakes Fist*
To be more trendy, maybe:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3667682/f13toon1.gif)


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: luckton on November 29, 2011, 09:14:19 AM
Damn you, Sky !

*Shakes Fist*
To be more trendy, maybe:

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3667682/f13toon1.gif)

Gratz on 20k posts.  Glad I could be a part of it  :grin: :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Sky on November 29, 2011, 09:17:54 AM
Holy shit.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Lucas on November 29, 2011, 09:35:09 AM
Launcher log-in available again; downloading now.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Morfiend on November 29, 2011, 09:56:21 AM
(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3667682/f13toon1.gif)

I wont lie, I loled. Sky 1, Everyone else = 0.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: ajax34i on November 29, 2011, 10:08:14 AM
Save yourself having to redownload 30GB of data!

Are they not putting boxes on shelves anymore?  I figured I'd install from DVD's.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: VainEldritch on November 29, 2011, 11:05:25 AM
Launcher log-in available again; downloading now.

Yeah, but servers locked for intenal testing until further notice...  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: 01101010 on November 29, 2011, 11:07:26 AM
6.1 terabytes took a long time, so I would just patch up from there.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: luckton on November 29, 2011, 11:09:04 AM
In browsing around the various TOR forums, it was discovered that there's quite a chunk of data in the previous weekends' client that had a bunch of useless bloat.  The Turkey weekend client may have eliminated that bloat, but it still persisted for previous client users.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Sky on November 29, 2011, 11:13:10 AM
it was discovered that there's quite a chunk of data in the previous weekends' client that had a bunch of useless bloat cut content. 


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Morfiend on November 29, 2011, 12:17:53 PM
I just reinstalled before this last weekend beta, as I had crashed during patching and the client got corrupted. Lucky I just upgraded my internet and have a 65Mb down line. Only took like 2 hours or so to DL the client. I think my install folder is now 18gb.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Fordel on November 29, 2011, 02:00:57 PM
If you just updated your old client from the previous beta weekend instead of starting with a fresh one, the game just re-downloaded the entire thing without clearing out the old useless client. That's why some people have 40 gig installs, they have two installs worth in there.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Nevermore on November 29, 2011, 02:04:49 PM
Yeah, my Star Wars folder is 18.5gb.  Suck it, people who got into more betas than me!  :crying_panda:


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Lantyssa on November 29, 2011, 02:14:33 PM
:-P


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Fordel on November 29, 2011, 02:14:48 PM
Well Bioware told everyone to just start fresh if they wanted to save space, since it was going to do that anyways.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Furiously on November 29, 2011, 02:29:05 PM
So what do you delete?


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Fordel on November 29, 2011, 02:31:54 PM
No idea, I had uninstalled the whole thing when they recommended it.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Cadaverine on November 29, 2011, 05:37:56 PM
My TOR folder is 36.6 gigabytes.  Of that, the Assets folder takes up 34.7.  I deleted that, along with the two patch related folders, and the various version files in the root directory.  It's in the process of downloading everything again. 

We'll see how that works out.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Furiously on November 29, 2011, 06:26:50 PM
Someone post a filelist from their asset's folder. Please.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Rendakor on November 29, 2011, 06:33:49 PM
Sure. Only ever beta'd this weekend.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Paelos on November 29, 2011, 07:28:24 PM
So do we delete stuff or not? You people are confusing me.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Pezzle on November 29, 2011, 07:48:53 PM
If you deleted when they suggested doing so to save HD space a week or two ago you do not need to delete again.  If your current install is 6 Yottabytes, well in that case you probably do not need to reinstall either.  Anywhere between say 21 GB and 6YB?  You have excess files and would want to reinstall for space saving.  My current folder is 18.5 GB, for reference.  


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Evildrider on November 29, 2011, 08:17:23 PM
If you downloaded the client for this last weekend you are fine.  If you patched from the prior weekend then they are suggesting you uninstall and redownload.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Furiously on November 29, 2011, 09:37:24 PM
Looks like all the "green" files in the asset's directory are delete-fodder.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Lantyssa on November 30, 2011, 04:13:09 AM
I installed and reinstalled overnight.  It'll be a day or two until it's back anyways, so this way I know it's clean.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Surlyboi on November 30, 2011, 04:31:41 AM
Deleted my old one and re-installed as well.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Thrawn on December 05, 2011, 12:22:21 PM
Just got an email saying -

Quote
Thank you for your participation in the Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Game Testing Program. In preparation for the game's official release, if you are receiving this email, you must uninstall the game-testing client before installing the launch game client.

 :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: murdoc on December 05, 2011, 12:25:25 PM
Yeah, I just got that too   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Pezzle on December 05, 2011, 12:27:05 PM
 :awesome_for_real: indeed.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: luckton on December 05, 2011, 12:28:36 PM
Just got an email saying -

Quote
Thank you for your participation in the Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ Game Testing Program. In preparation for the game's official release, if you are receiving this email, you must uninstall the game-testing client before installing the launch game client.

 :oh_i_see:

Reid just made a tweet saying an official post/response on the email will be up shortly.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Lucas on December 05, 2011, 12:31:07 PM
Obligatory  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Thrawn on December 05, 2011, 12:32:58 PM
Reid just made a tweet saying an official post/response on the email will be up shortly.

Sooooo, why don't they just include that info in the email then?  :facepalm:


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: murdoc on December 05, 2011, 12:40:20 PM
If you go to the FAQ linked in the email it says:

Quote
We encourage anyone who has taken part in our Game Testing Program prior to the November 25th Beta Weekend to uninstall their previous client before installing the final Game Client

My guess is that if you were in the 11-11-11 beta weekend and didn't reinstall - you're going to have to.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: luckton on December 05, 2011, 12:43:08 PM
My guess is that's about all that extra data bloat we talked about previously.  It's easier for them to say "Uninstall and reinstall everything" instead of "Delete these certain files"


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Pezzle on December 05, 2011, 12:44:33 PM
Based on that I will reinstall when my physical copy arrives.  If the difference between the discs and new patches is less than 20GB I win.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Sky on December 05, 2011, 12:51:10 PM
I posted mine in the wrong thread  :oh_i_see:

I'm hoping it's because I was in the 367 weekend, just in case I hadn't already deleted that older client.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: tmp on December 05, 2011, 12:56:07 PM
Based on that I will reinstall when my physical copy arrives.  If the difference between the discs and new patches is less than 20GB I win.
Doesn't the preorder access open up to five days before the release (and so the physical delivery, i'd presume) though?


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Pezzle on December 05, 2011, 01:06:39 PM
Yeah, but I get early access because of a preorder code.  You put in your other info later as I understand it.  Worst case, I do not get to play early (ohnoes).  I can play Batman or Skyrim or Terraria!  There are also other options which enhance my social skills.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Evildrider on December 05, 2011, 01:07:55 PM
Yeah, but I get early access because of a preorder code.  You put in your other info later as I understand it.  Worst case, I do not get to play early (ohnoes).  I can play Batman or Skyrim or Terraria!  There are also other options which enhance my social skills.

Huh?  You would still have to download the game to play during early access. 


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: luckton on December 05, 2011, 01:27:54 PM
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=714124


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: tmp on December 05, 2011, 01:38:01 PM
Well, 27 GB is a pretty good compression down from 140+ TBs.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Reg on December 05, 2011, 01:41:44 PM
27 gig? Mine's still only 18.5.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Miasma on December 05, 2011, 01:43:54 PM
I blame luckton.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Furiously on December 05, 2011, 01:44:17 PM
Maybe they are finally giving us higher resolution textures....


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Pezzle on December 05, 2011, 01:47:08 PM
Yeah, but I get early access because of a preorder code.  You put in your other info later as I understand it.  Worst case, I do not get to play early (ohnoes).  I can play Batman or Skyrim or Terraria!  There are also other options which enhance my social skills.

Huh?  You would still have to download the game to play during early access. 

Right, unless your install is new enough, which mine may be.  Given the mail fail I expect we will all have bloat without doing a clean install


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: murdoc on December 05, 2011, 02:06:40 PM
27 gig? Mine's still only 18.5.

Yeah, that number confused me too. That last install was under 20gb and now it's almost 30?


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: tazelbain on December 05, 2011, 02:13:20 PM
Finally all the lightsaber hilts are in the game.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Ingmar on December 05, 2011, 02:14:50 PM
27 gig? Mine's still only 18.5.

Yeah, that number confused me too. That last install was under 20gb and now it's almost 30?

I am guessing hi-res textures like Furiously.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: tmp on December 05, 2011, 02:15:41 PM
It's the miracle patch :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: murdoc on December 05, 2011, 02:27:18 PM
27 gig? Mine's still only 18.5.

Yeah, that number confused me too. That last install was under 20gb and now it's almost 30?

I am guessing hi-res textures like Furiously.

Quote
Hi everyone, we just updated the original post. The correct directory has been confirmed and you need 27GB of free space total, but your actual game client file will be smaller.

I was hoping for hi-res textures.


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: Tannhauser on December 05, 2011, 03:13:03 PM
Sweet, I've only done the beta the last two weeks so my client is up to date.  That means I can rock out with my saber out when early start happens!


Title: Re: *ATTN* DO NOT ERASE CLIENT!
Post by: luckton on December 05, 2011, 04:32:25 PM
And one more update...

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=11790595#edit11790595

Quote
Quote from: Puckss
 
The redunent files are just that right? If you dont need the space one can just leave them without issue I assume?
Correct. If you don't mind the hefty size, you can leave it as is without issue.

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=11790880#edit11790880

Quote
Quote from: Fenix
36 GB, but that doesn't bother me right now.

If I can play till I get my copy, I'll reinstall with a hard copy and remove any redundancy then.
Yes, this is also an option. Installing from a hard copy will definitely be faster than downloading.