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Well, that was quick!

Patch preview: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/shyvana-patch-preview-balance-and-gameplay-changes
tl;dw: graves nerf nerf nerf; olaf ult shorter, but comes with cleanse; wukong small buffs and bug fixes; shaco gets quicker but less damaging boxes a little more burst.

Champ ability desc: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/shyvana-half-dragon-revealed
Whoa, that looks fun and awesome. Build AP, then double lichbane cleave?

Patch notes: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/shyvana-patch-notes
woo: surprise talon nerfs. (that actually look like they might be meaningful)

Champ spotlight: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/champion-spotlight-shyvana-half-dragon
Looks fun, but didn't realize the almost complete lack of CC.

Do they release lists of changes yet or still just the video?

Nope, no lists of changes yet, I'll add when it comes out

Patch notes and champ preview up! Raaar dragons.

Still haven't unfucked dominion.

So has anyone tried shyvana? I bought her this morning but am still at work.

I haven't tried her, but I was laning with one.  Seems like an viable option as a melee character, but she doesn't strike me as something I must buy.  Then again, I'm still a relative newbie that is still learning to play all the existing characters I have.   The one ability with the fire around her (I have no idea what its called) reminded me abit of Amumu's Despair in that its great for finishing people off if they don't start running away sooner than they normally would.

I had a few fights against her as Trynd in a Dominion game. She was tough to kill.

I played a few games, I sucked obviously but it was an ok first impression. In Dominion she hit like a truck and could take down two dudes with her ulti. In SR she got focused down all the time, but in the end proved to be a good chaser.

im finding her a very good jungler

Thing you have to remember is that Trynd is a hard carry, and sucks pretty hard early. Especially if you're stuck in a poke lane, you need to just try to stay alive and farm as best you can.

Meant for the other thread?

probably. :awesome_for_real:

I am pretty terrible as a jungler but with her I felt pretty competent. She is honestly one of the better junglers I have seen lately and her speed boost aoe thing allows her to zip around from point to point really darn quick even before you get your boots. Guessing she is probably a decent counter jungler due to her movement speed she could get in steal some stuff and zip back to safety.

jungles super super quick. ganks are kind of hard. I'd pick her as a jungler if my lanes had enough CC to make the ganks work

Yeah I jungle with her well but I can't seem to get any good ganks in early. I think she really needs her ult first so she can use it to push opponents up towards your tower.

I think her ulti is bugged and that's a major reason for underperfoming. She tends to drop her target halfway and breaks autoattack, which leads to a big lot of nothing.

Gonna QQ again, as I'm getting more and more underwhelmed with Shyvana the more I play. Dragon charge is useless and even detrimental unless coming from behind, and without it she has no team fight skills. As jungler she cannot prevent the enemy from retreating and in lane she cannot kill even those characters she dominates, because once again they will just walk away.

Really turning me off this shit is, I don't like spending money and/or time on something that was either insufficiently playtested or panic nerfed before release.  

fake edit: ironically, the Master Yi spoof video build of Zeal spam is one of the best I've tried for Shyv.

Then don't buy champions immediately on release? 

I usually don't, but I figured it'd be nice to learn something completely new for a change. I suppose I should've known that after Graves they'd make sure the next one wasn't too strong.

I like going triforce and some form of lifesteal usually wriggles, mov3 boots and maybe gunblade

I usually start with Wriggles, MR booties (leaning heavily towards speed 3 boots because as mentioned she is the most kitable champion ever devised) and Wit's End. Then I go Zeals or Frozen Mallet and whatevs is required by the situation. The best way to win solo queue however is to farm the dragon. Shyv can solo it pretty quickly.