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Yes, of course, I am theorycrafting teams for Dominion. I like mobility here.

Jax
Poppy
Kassadin
Malph
TF ? Ez ? Xin?


Premise...Bushwacks, distance closers, bursters. Malph charges in, poppy slams some fuck, kass does what he do, Jax leaps in, etc


I think the no farm is going to get a lot of people doing heavy DPS. Wardens/Thornmail could be huge.

Armor reduction team here?

Tanky DPS team?

I think Riven or Irelia are both people you would want on your team since they are really good at chasing with all their dashes.

Global ults. GP and Karth seems like really strong picks: GP's got a movement buff, Karthus can continuing defending a point after he's dead.

True. Not sure long cooldown abilities are that great though, the game is so fast paced.

From my games earlier, I'd agree with global ults, tanky dps and movement. GP seems to work pretty damn well as he hits all 3. Karthus seems ok, as you mention the CDs are a problem. I had a game with TF earlier and he seemed ok. I scored the lowest on my team, but your poke is actually good for holding enemies off.

Warwick might be an ok pick. I think poppy might end up being a star (I might be biased though) as a tanky dps who mainly deals magic damage. Makes her harder to counter.

If we're talking ripping around a map it's all about Blitz.   He could be really good for defending.

Singed too I think.

I can imagine Singed being amazing at Dominion.

Speedy Tanky DPS

I feel like I'm missing one or two, but they aren't coming right now

Physical
Blitz
Gangplank
Nocturne (boots 3, triforce and his ult put him in this category)

Magic
Rumble
Kennen

Hybrid
Udyr
Mundo

Tank
Rammus
Singed (as mentioned below) - not sure how effective Singed is going to be.  Sure, he can get there fast, and once he's there he can fling someone.  But if no one is chasing due to trying to flip a node, who really cares about Singed running around?

Singed will burn people down quick with his smoke if people try to ignore him. Plus he'll be great for disrupting enemy creep waves.

Who are the fastest champs? Riven, yi?

Nunu is pretty fast.

Yi is only fastest with Highlander. MF is fairly fast.

Eve's ult might end up not bad.   She could really spam it due to the amount of fights that happen.

The fastest possible champion in the game is Rammus, who can reach speeds in excess of 5,000 with Powerball and the right buffs. I believe Yi has the fastest base speed with 330. Nidalee, Kassadin, Kennen can truck it from point A to point B pretty quickly. MF with her passive, maybe. If I were trying to win a foot race I would probably choose one of those.

Poppy is also very fast but I think YI is the fastest with highlander active.

No one mentioned Teemo in the speed category? 

Apparently Shaco is really, really, really good in Dominion.  Which makes sense.

No elixirs or wards really fucks you with stealthers.

There is an item that gives you a useable de-stealth ability, some sort of cloud. I haven't wrapped my head around the new itemisation. There's another item which gives you +15% cap speed.

Items like RoA seem less great here, since you may not have time to get them stacked.

No Rammus is by far the fastest with his ball.   It's not even a close contest.   It gives base movement speed so its really really fast.

Jax is really dominating so far for me.  Moving around fast doesn't feel as important as just slaughtering peeps at towers.   I'm grabbing Ninja Tabi,life steal, pots right away then moving into Hex Blade.

COOLDOWN REDUCTION ITEMS

I can't bold that enough. In a game like dominion where everything is fast paced, a low cooldown char can really suffer.

Surprisingly I haven't seen Yis doing that well. I think it's because they can't get farmed and reach 1v1 domination level.

I didn't even bother with RoA in my game with Morgana. Bought the new "Charge up and do AoE dmg" clicky item that has the same passives as RoA, magic pen boots, Zhonya's, and was working on my deathcap when it ended.

I actually forego the utility talent tree on dominion where exp boosts mean very little. Items with morg look like boots talisman of cd redux and then deathcap

going to try this again with tf.

my impression? nothing special.

Try it with Jax.

Ok, so we learned one thing about Dominion tonight. (in two parts)

A) Thinking Slay's AS Cho'Gath would be a good champ for the mode is incorrect.
B) Even when said Cho and Xin Zhao (your truly) play abyssmally you can win.

Both are 100% true.

So like renekton is pretty good at this mode.

Yea, I can attest, Jax is a murder machine in this mode. Grab stormshield from mid for added lulz.

My Udyr here is pretty fierce though :) Tiger style....

I grab boots of mobility for full retard speed getting to points, brutalizer, tri-force, sanguine, etc

Think I will probably go swiftness next time.




Ohhh I got a new idea..... AP/AD hybrid Udyr! Guinsoo, Hextech Gunblade, tri-force

Forget turtle stance, I'm maxing Tiger AND Phoenix.... RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRR

(can't be any worse than my AS Cho!!!!)

Tanky CDR Kat:

9/21/0

Red: Magic Pen
Yellow: Dodge
Blue: Cooldown reduction / lvl (Celerity)
Quints: Flat AP

Hextech Sweeper
CDR Boots
Rylai's
Will of the Ancients


Rabadon

Premise: Death lotus every 35-40 seconds, any kill or assist that cooldown is dropped by 15 seconds.



AP Trap Teemo:

21/9/0
Reds: Magic Pen
Yellows: Whatever
Blues: Celerity
Quint: 1 CDR, 2 whatever

Hextech Sweeper (the vision after the schrooms would be pretty cool actually)
CDR Boots
Rylais
Lich Bane
Rabadon's

Premise: Schroom every 17 secs. Lich Bane for nice damage after a blinding shot. Stealth at a tower with your schrooms and Surprise! You're fucked!



Ass-beating Alistar!

Zeal (upgrade later to Phantom)
Zeal
Berserker Greaves
Sheen
Infinity Edge
Sanguine Blade


21/9/0
Full Retard!
Ass beating runes!

Premise: Whoop ass!

I don't have Yorick but apparently he smashes faces in this mode since he doesn't have to waste gold on manamune for the mana.

I had a lot of success with Nocturne going Tanky Atmogs.

Anyone that auto attacks right now seems to do well going Atmogs.  :awesome_for_real:

Nocturne just seems to do really well imo. Spell shield, his q disrupts, and fear at a tower makes him a decent defender. Oh, and that ult.

any tanky dps does well in a skirmish map.

Its more than that. His skillset helps with objectives, + global ult.

I got that one with Katarina tonight. It's pretty cool. Only lasts a minute but with the quick games, it's pretty useful.

I like Dominion for a change of pace. My Kat did decent tonight, and she seems pretty fast off the bat. I probably should have added a cooldown reduction item too, though her cooldowns aren't too bad.

Alistair on the other hand didn't fare as well.

Rammus is fucking awesome in this mode.

OK!

I have 24 wins and I think roughly 35 games total.

The Champs I saw excelling a lot were:

Akali
Heimdinger
Jax
Kennen
Nocturne
Poppy
Rammus
Ryze
Teemo
Yorick

There are plenty of other good ones but the above are the ones that seemed consistent.   Kennen kind of caught me by surprise but he works really well.   Other heroes like Nidalee can clearly be really good here but require a lot more skill.

Teemo is really good for this map. Speed, blind (since there is a lot of tanky melee DPS playing), and shrooms break caps.

Ahh yea I dunno how I missed him.

Probably because you have to listen to his voice.

Champs with speed boosts seems have significant advantage there . And if you have a global ult... -Yep. gangplank is the king of dominion :)

I've been seeing Bliztcrank/Scaner(the scorpion) used with some success.

Blitz is damn good here. Fuckin' shield and speed boost.

Heimer is just unmovable. You need 3 champs to push him off, and even then, if he's got all his summoners and zhonya's, it's in doubt.

Nidalee is the queen of poking if you're good with spears. Harassing top is so much fun with her.

Ok, so another one of Slay's funky build ideas! This time it fuckin' worked! This is Dominion build:

Tankivia:

9/21/0 (improved revive)

MPen Reds
Armor Yellows
MR / lvl blues
AP Quints

Revive/Garrison

Start Bot, take Giants Belt with a few health and mana pots.
Go back or build Warmogs ASAP.
Then Boots (I went mobility and it was cool)
Stay bot, dominate.
Build Thornmail


Die, and you are a huge HP egg with thornmail. Die again and click revive and come back with like 400 more HP and fast as fuck. The ult makes defenders pay for hugging the turret. It's quite funny!

Build Abyssal, haunting guise...whatever else. Mana is an issue, that will be the next thing I address. Probably Chalice. Fun build though.

On my work PC I went 12/7/14 , and we came 60 points from winning a 4 on 5 game.

Staying anywhere in dominion is usually a bad idea. Having someone able to defend is very good but if thy just turtle on one spot all game, they're sorely hurting their team.

I find if you're playing bot, and they ignore you, just go push the creep wave. As long as you're careful, you won't get caught out, and they'll need to come back, or they'll lose bot.

But I feel like so often, we've got a really solid three, and people get crazy trying to take a fourth, and then we lose a bunch. It really depends on team comp, like if they've got a good poke/harass squad, you can just let them whittle you down, but a lot of times, holding makes sense.

You just want to prove everyone wrong about the bird don't you, Slay?

Dude, I kicked ass last game. On my shitty work PC.

Hmmm...I'm on a crazy internet connection here... THATS WHY MY BIRD SUCKS AT HOME - ITS THE BANDWIDTH

;)

And yes, I'll show you! Even my bad bird I don't go all 0/9/3 HAHAHAH

Thus the boots of mobility. Also, I was able to totally control bottom leaving the 3 guys we had (it was a 4 on 5) to be full time on top. I was constantly dealing with 2 guys and handled it.

With aniv, you can really get creeps waves coming hard. I was ignored for a sec on bottom and became a nightmare for them to retake after I got theirs. Garrison + Egg + thornmail + decent built in damage with bird

Unless they do something to balance the Dom, I see myself getting bored fighting the same 10 chars over and over.

I'm starting to get that vibe as well.

Bird has escape!

Also, stupid draft pick!

Gangplank is just fucking whacked in Dominion. He can almost defend two points by himself. See someone taking a point, drop your big AOE on them, stop the capture. He can beat just about any champ 1v1, and even 2v1 it could get dicey. I swear he's headed for a nerf.

Combine that with Karthus ult.... TONS O FUN

Chimpy got to see tank bird in action and get #1 :) I'm having a blast with em.

Global ults are pretty broken on dominion. Karthus, Gangplank, Pantheon, Ezrael and TF are all fairly OP.

Funny, I found Pantheon to be complete and utter garbage in Dominion, even with his ult.

Panth is a good champ for the format, you must have been around bad Panths.

I steam-rolled with him. He's very strong in small group (or solo) skirmishes, and his ult (while not quite as good as GP or karthus) is excellent for interrupting or ninja'ing control points.

Started playing with Skarner in Dom, like him a lot.  Maybe even more than Udyr (I still love you Man/Bear/Turtle/Tiger/Phoenix, it's just a fling, I swear!)