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Here is it:

So you basically already know who you are gonna face if you win your match. You can play starting NOW!

All games have to be played BEFORE March 18th.

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All games have to be played BEFORE March 18th.

Fuck.

 :drill:

But still fuck. I'll let someone else post the analysis.

Were these pulled from a hat? IS THERE NO VIDEO?

Also, kind of funny how carryover and fresh teams got segregated.  :why_so_serious:

And I am heading to bed, I'll let someone else post what's the OVERTIME is like, since it can really fuck your game if you don't know how it works. Heh Strazos?

Funny how it's a fucken rematch of last season's playoff leadups (I played Megrim to top the table prior the playoffs).

Why didn't I get to rape the wildcard's dead carcass like the original setup!?  :heartbreak:

No way, that's confidential proprietary information.  :grin:

Strongman to the finals!

Amen to that brother  :oh_i_see:

I'll make sure that there's nothing left of the pansy elves for next season :D

Just happy I didn't meet Amazons, seeing as I have a single Tackler.

Wait? Does this mean I'll play Llyse in the semi's if I win and he wins? That kind of sucks.

Also, playing the Lizards was a best case scenario for me, yay!

Otherwise. Nasty draw. Seems rigged to have the high TV teams beat each other to death.

Playing those darn dodgers could be...painful, since I lost 2 tackling linemen this season. I guess I'll just have to bash their brains in first.  :oh_i_see:

That's right because I'm going enjoy another tasty morsel  :why_so_serious:

No one can stop the Drogg!  :drill:

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This photo is ridiculously hot.

If the score is tied at the end of turn 16 the game continues with four more turns of overtime. There is no kickoff, teams simply keep playing from where they are, and any unused rerolls from the second half carry over. If at the end of the four turns of overtime there is still no winning team the game will add another four turns. And it will keep adding overtime until one team stands to win.

One final important note is that if you score in overtime there will be a kick-off as usual if there are still turns to go, so if you score on the first turn of overtime you can give your opponent four turns to equalise, leading to more overtime.

Eventually rerolls will run out, turnovers will happen, and casualties will leave teams defenseless so someone will win, but make allowances for atleast an extra hour of time when playing. Seriously. :)

It's going to be tough for the Amazon's to make a repeat of last season's win over the BlockBlockBlock team of Norse, with a +5 ST big guy and 2 +4 ST Frenziers. His two tackle guys can pin me down and his two MightyBlow and Piling On Berserker's are sure to get some injuries.

My only hope is to stay outside of block range and hope I can bet up his low numbered team with my Blitzers and Catchers...I wish I had more Guard players. He far outweighs me in re-roll's too.

TINY RATS CANNOT STOP DROGG

ESPECIALLY SINCE DROGG INVESTED HEAVILY IN DIVING TACKLE AFTER DROGG'S VALEDICTORY MATCH AGAINST THE OGRES

 - My 5 STR player is a werewolf, not a big guy troll. Not sure if that helps or hurts more.
 - I roll with 4 frenzy players; one of which is the aforementioned buff werewolf, the others being a second werewolf with Block/MB instead of Block/+STR, and two beserkers with the added skills of MB/Pile On. I also have a random 4 STR lineman for giggles.
 - Unfortunately, my lesser Runner is out for this game with broken ribs, so I've had to burn some cash to hire a linemen to flesh out my bench. Not sure if it will make a difference in inducement choice, but I'd rather deal with that than what I viewed as a dangerously-short bench...though kind of makes me wish I didn't play the min/max inducement game earlier and just kept the second thrower had I picked up for a similar reason.
 - I finally managed to get some tackle back on the team, which could come up very handy against the dodge-happy Catfighters.

I think this could be a very interesting game. I normally do well against non-bash teams (previous loss to Comstar excluded), but Amazons have legitimate quick-strike capability, I'm down a positional, he'll have inducements...and anything could happen. Reference my last game against Falconeer, a game that could have gone either way...and Comstar's team is built well, so it'll be fun to see how it works out.

Also I'm pulling for the Dark Elves, as Orcs seem to be a pretty tough brute-force counter to Norse...and they've developed well since the season opener. Also, if the DE makes it out of the quarters, I don't see how they could withstand back-to-back onslaughts of Orcs then Norse, so that would definitely be a favorable match-up for me in the Semis.

Game On.  :drill:

Non-big guy ST5 players are always preferable because they will always do what you ask. Damn trolls always seem to go stupid at the worst possible moment.

Perhaps...but the troll would hit harder, with Claw and MB.

I'm waiting in game lobby now for the 1st playoff of the season.

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Sorry, the PM said 1900!

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After a riot that moved the clock forward, the game started with the first blow of the match killing a Norse, who invoked the apoc to live. From then on, the Amazon's had control of the 1st half. The Norse even finished it with 3 rerolls left over.  The Norse did manage to knock down the ball carrier a few times, but the dodgy Amazons, despite falling twice to the tackle skill, each time retrieved the ball - the last time it landed right on the one Amazon who needed the points for a skill. The Norse could never take advantage of their block power, with their berserker's in particularly failing to use their skills effectively. Touchdown 2 turns before the end of the half.

The kickoff started with a pitch invasion that knocked down 1/3 of the Norse team, and the Amazon's made a break for the ball carrier. A stupid mistake on my part (I forgot I actually have a ST4 player) meant the Norse could reform. A chance to get the ball carrier down with a 150K Cash wizard was wasted when the lighting bolt did nothing, followed by yet another dodge foiled by a tackle (skill).

The 2nd half belonged to the Norse. Fianlly able to start to hit the girls with a frontal attack, the Norse Werewolves and 'Zerkers let loose. By the end of the game, 3 badly injured, another one apoc'ed and a lineswomen with wrestle was dead.  Only 3 'Zon's were standing by the end.

And yet the Norse were unable to take advantage. At one stage 12 block dice (including a triple roll) failed to get a Dodging/Sidestepping dancing girl away from the Runner, as she did a complete circuit around him. Sidestep was the skill of my match, constantly foiling the Frenzied Norse. On turn 14 the Norse had a chance, with a AG 2 Werewolf making a desperate attempt to pick up the ball...but then the Norse failed to move a player close enough to the end zone on turn 15 to get a touchdown!

Amazons 1, Norse 0 (though the Norse did cause 5 badly hurt, 1 death, and the Amazon team blew their savings on a useless Wizard).


I hope Andy's Dark Elves win, I think I can do much better than having to go up against another team of nothing but Blockers. However, after looking at a team of 11 orks with block (3 of them ST 4 BLorks), my money's on the Orks to get into the semi-final. The Dark Elves after getting replacement linesman will only be able to afford maybe 1 Star Player, and stabbing Armour 9 dosn't work as well as stabbing armour 7.

Ultimately, I'd say it's going to end in another rematch- F13 Catfighters vs Alive Not Dead in replay of last season's final.

So...

In short, I am now o'fer vs Aussie players all-time, I think.

Comstar started by recieving and bring it up the pitch. My block was not working particularly well, while the Cats seemed to be making every roll necessary - he almost killed a lineman on his very first block. I accidentally summoned my Apoth (I would never save a lineman), but it ended up being an OK move. I try to clog things up, getting ahold of the ball at one point, but the girls continue to dance around, eventually prying it back loose and prancing in for a late score in the first half. My opening attack when I receive goes terribly, and the half ends 1-0.

Second half begins not much better. The girls are doing their damnedest to clog up the field and play a passive defense. At one point a girl manages to have about 12 dice rolled against her in 1 turn, and I could not seem to find the defender down die. On their next turn, the girls are kind enough to immediately find that side of the die for me. Late in the half, I finally manage to start breaking through armor, tossing a few girls out to the injury bin and even killing one. Alas, it did not happen soon enough, as even when my werewolf managed to pick up the ball I did not have enough time to get him up the pitch for a TD. He even manages to hand-off to a runner, who fell 2 squares short of a late TD.

1 - 0 Catfighters. I still insist his dice are loaded as hell. Fortunately, this time I may have done enough damage to hurt his chances for a repeat title.

Replay file?

Uploaded.

We're in overtime here.

Spoiler for the result. Replay is on BB Manager.

quick summary: 2-1 lamaros, but i killed his agi 5 GR and seriously injured the side-step blodger counterpart  :mob:

my lack of rerolls finally caught up with me, plus a few tactical blunders, most notably when my girlfriend decided it was time to tell me what the menu was for an upcoming dinner party while i was moving a saurus.  he got an early score and managed to injure one of my diving tacklers during my drive after my krox ate a reroll and double skulled, but i returned with a drive down the middle after he bungled a dodge and caught his thrower by his lonesome.  as we went into overtime, he scored early, and i started a drive up the right that was going places until i neglected to mark his stormvermin with guard, and he got enough tackle zones on my skink's escorts to bog him down.

i'm sure he's gonna lament the string of ones that let me catch up, but let the record show that his last kick was literally the best kick he could've possibly mustered, and if i hadn't been forced to play hopscotch in the middle with said ball i would've dragged the game out even longer and hopefully put down another gutter runner or two.  at the very least, i softened him up for llyse or megrim.  hopefully megrim, stormbringer bros for life.

I'm going to have to say I think it was a bad play. The Saurus had little chance of making the catch, and a bounce had a 3/8 chance of going on the line. I don't think it was a risk worth taking given there were 4 turns to score and no rerolls. You would probably have needed a skink with the ball to score anyhow, as I could have marked the Saurus with a linerat and kept him unable to move (unless you risk the dodge), so you'd probably have had to roll a handoff at some point anyhow.

moving my saurus during the snap was a bad call, yeah.  having spent so long playing khemri, i take terrible ball handling for granted and though to myself "hey, a chance to catch the ball without losing a turn!" BUT! prior to my quick snap error in judgment, the spot where the kick ended up was just flawless, especially considering you don't (i think) have anybody with kick. two squares from the line and right smack in the middle, such that i had to abandon my plans to encircle your stormvermin and immediately had to go all-hands on offense and caging instead of laying out an appropriate screen to box you in.  

i had laid out my offensive line so carefully, too  :cry2:

Hi Krummi - when are u  free, due to work commitmenmts i will only be free on saturday evening, sunday between midday and 7pm, or today up till midnight. all times are quoted in GMT +0 as i live in the UK.  I have tried to find you on steam and in game but no luck there. where are u  from and what timezone are u  in?

I live in UK aswell, so tonight is good for me. Or Sunday is fine aswell. We are in the same timezone so we should be able to sort it out.

I'm LoveTruncheon on Steam, got you added.

You should all remember that I am leaving for 2 weeks in 5 days, so if... you could make it all happen before that it would be awesome. Otherwise, you are in for an awesome but anticlimatic end of the season.

I should be playing my match over the weekend. Or do you mean the whole thing, as in the final rounds as well?

My team has not been updated, did you approve the match? The Calendar shows the result of the match but my team stats haven't updated.

I thought about validating the games after all the quarter finals have been played, this time. Maybe there's no point, but it sounded like a good idea at the time...

our game is going ahead in around 12 hrs time. then that leaves 1 quarter final left. this looks like we wont get done in time for falc's holiday tbh.

Wishmasters 2 - Strongman 0  :ye_gods:

Well played match that pitched Orcs on Elfjuice and Elves on Orcjuice (three Black Orcs managed crazy dodges, and the elves delivering the pain).

Replay should be up for those interested!

well it will be up as soon as soneone will let me know what the password is :)

The passwoed is vanguard

I validated mathces, waiting for the last one of the quarter finals.

well i will add the replay when i  hve finishede playing the league game i'm playing in now


Comstar - when do you want to play your game?

We can't play till the entire round is complete. I'm impressed you won, considering you only had about 6 players and had lost a star linesman in my match! How did it happen?

I cant remember the specifics but i scored on his defence then i scored on my offence. It was my first game where i didnt lose anyone! I have uploaded the replay if you wish to watch it. I assume that we are going to have to wait for the new season since the other 1/4 final still isnt played. We are going to have to play next weekend i guess?

I just watched the replay - I get the impression the Ork team had never played vs Elves/Delves before. Elves can always take advantage of a single mistake, and Ork's often left the ball carrier vulnerable while at the same time being curiously unmotivated to mark enemy players fully. The High ST proved a mixed bag- often only one Ork would blitz the ball carrier, leaving them out of position even if the ball was broke free and the ball uncovered.

Also it helped Andy that he injured 3 Ork's and only took KO's in return. He'll be able to have 500+ inducements vs me, so he could either get the MasterStabber again (who was pretty useless in our previous game) or Morg'N'Thorg himself.

What's the status of the last game we're waiting on?!

I think Llyse is afraid, as the sooner he plays the sooner his season will be over.  :awesome_for_real:

Welp, at least my losing the season opener didn't just hand the league to Scadente on a silver platter.

I REALLY don't want to root for Comstar, but... :oh_i_see:

Will try to play tonight before Falc leaves.

Had an insane weekend so no blood bowl

Looked at my team.

Seems I only got 20k for my win, not the 50k I was meant to. Only have 70k and not 100k as a result and cannot afford to buy a new GR as they cost 80k.

So I only have two Gutter Runners available for the semi and no bench left. And no one levelled either. Hooray...

Looks like it's Comstar v Megrim in the final.

Alive not Dead v Morsel is away!

Game is complete. Replay will be uploaded shortly.

Match report to be posted in 6 hours.

5 hours later...

So after a game delayed by pretty women and drunken promises the last quarter final between old rivals Necromantic Alive not Dead and Vampiric Morsel. Alive not Dead win the toss and elect to kick against the vampires and set a standard line of scrimmage. The fans go wild for these high calibre teams and they both receive extra rerolls before Morsel start play.

And the first action is the agile Blood Relative to attempt to pick up which he does costing him a reroll however before stunning Alex and Dominic the zombies. Some shifting on the right flank before Chomp Gnomski blitzes the infamous Calvin the Menace. However it's a solid block and both players stay standing before Alive resume play. Gregor clears a path on the left edge of the scrimmage giving the young Hobbes a chance to rip into Blood Relative which he does so eating a reroll for the GFI but sacking the QB.

Morsel's reply is strong and Love in Vain's mighty blow knocks the wet behind the ears Werewolf out for the entire match and Blood Relative regains the ball with no problems. Heavily pressure Llyse decides to go for a single die block to create something out of nothing but Gregor and Atarin only manages to hurt themselves so Morsel look likely to score from the right side's push.

The game seems to swing however with Finger Lickin's foul on Calvin which results in him being sent off! Atarin blitzes Blood Relative again and finally succeeds in stunning him before the ensuing snafu for the ball begins. Katze the Cheerful picks up the ball no problem, but there are plenty of marauding vampires to get a 2-die blitz on the happy chap. Heidolf Von Bitenrite does so and stuns Katze and the ball bounces off Midnight Snack clutches and lays on the floor.

Ivan A Bitealot attempts to dodge into tackle zones to get the ball but fails and KOs himself before an apothecary ensures he stays on the field. A revenge hit by Calvin burns a reroll against Chomp but only succeeds to copy him with 2 both down results. There are some key hypnotic gazes and it looks like Morsel will score with a Vampire in the open 1 yard from the TD line.

Pressured Llyse decides for an all for broke play and Katze attempts to hand off to Calvin with 0 rerolls but fails and it'll be a pick up and pass play for the Vampires to finally score. Chomp Gnomski bloodlusts while picking up the ball and dodging away and is about to pass but...

Megrim can't make the pass action?! Is this CCP Cyanide's UI acting out again!? Possibly but it seems that a failed Bloodlust will prevent a pass action so the reroll Megrim saves for a pass and catch for a touchdown is never used and the half ends 0-0.

2nd half starts and similarly it seems to go down hill after Alex the zombie stuns Ivan with a boot to the head and is sent off! Both Hobbes and Michael the zombie fail to wake up and Alive not Dead are down a man. A nice kick by Megrim considering how demoralising results in Gui failing to secure the ball near the right sideline.

Again Hypnotic gaze creates space and Alive not Dead are pressured once again. Surprisingly no serious injuries are sustained still in this intense match until late in the 2nd half. Katze defends the ball but Heidolf knocks Katze the fuck out and the ball lays on the ground for Ivan to deftly pick it up and run it in for an inspiring play after a disappointing 1st half.

It's all or nothing to prevent this and Gui the Sad does it with a 1 dice reroll blitz wrestle bringing down the Blodger +1 MA MVP Vamp.

Desperate times call for heroes and Calvin lives up to the legend. Blitzing Heidolf to open with the first and fatal injury of the match killing the non-regenerating Vampire before free and retrieves the ball to head the relatively open left side of the field. Blood Relative returns the blow but Vincent the kicker is much more resilent getting up to play again. Take Away then blitzes Calvin but the hero stays up even with a Vampire and Thrall marking him.  He blitzes again knocking down Long Term savings account and heads for the open fields on the left.

There are some attempts to stop the score but he outpaces the relatively slower Vampires and stalls for time while Morsel desperately place tackle zones with many dodges and GFIs. Calvin however makes the key blitzes and scores for Alive not Dead but not before Rob crowd surfs Chomp 5 Agil Gnomski to receive a smashed collarbone, possibly ending his career.

Morsel have a glimmer of hope with a riot pushing the clock back giving an all of nothing play with Ivan running in deep to receive a hailmary and needing to dodge through a storm of fur and rotting corpses. Calvin's Claw puts an end to such thoughts knocking out Ivan and heading Morsel's Championship hopes again.

Hi Lamaros  :drill:

SIX HOURS MY ASS YOU BETTER REPORT

So it's last years champion Amazon's vs a newcomer damaged Dark Elf team with lots of inducements and last years runner up Necromantic's vs a newcomer damaged Skaven team with lots of inducements?

Andy, I've PM'ed you a time to play tomorrow, assuming the game gets cleared by Falconeer.

Quarter finals are done. On with the last three games of the season! Semi-finals, you can play them whenever you are ready.

It's also a rematch within divisions giving Andy davo's mangled team a chance to avenge their 2-1 loss in the last match of the season.

For Battletech it's a chance to see who really deserves to be in the playoffs with the turns drawing their previous meeting.

I see you've reanimated Romulus  :awesome_for_real:

Amusing that i have been written off by everyone :)

I haven't! =p

Dark Elves are Dark Elves. I've played them enough to know what they are capable of.

Game's set for tomorrow.

Dark Elves are playing black.
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Amazon chess is apparently normal chess but the Queen can move like a Knight.

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The First Semi Final has been played - game ended 1-1 after 16 turns, but with the amazons reduced to 7 players in overtime and the elves were reduced to 10. Comstar got the recieve in overtime but the lack of rerolls finally told and a defensive touchdown was scored by the elves. Final score 2-1 to the Wildcards.

The 1st Semi Final is over

 :ye_gods:

More at the images than the results though.

That was my reaction to losing. Note to all new coaches- a team new to the league is going into the finals!

I really hope the Skaven win, that way I'll keep my players on the "Most games played" table. Go rats!

I've been available all day today and Llyse has been busy. I think I should get the win, he's obviously not putting the effort in,

Unbelievable.

AND THE CURSE CONTINUES: NO TEAM EVER WON THE f13 LEAGUE TWICE IN A ROW!

Haha, sadly I work in the day, but this weekend sounds perfect for our Aussie dominated final.

Half of the quarter finalists were aussies (Megrim, Lamaros, Comstar and myself)

3/4 of the semi finalists were aussies  :oh_i_see:

But yeah your preference for furries has been noted Lamaros  :awesome_for_real:

I am leaving tomorrow. If the game won't be played in the next 24 hours, I'll give Modern Angel comissioner rights so he will be able to advance the day to the Final match while I am out.

Sad that I am missing the end of the season, it's so weeird!

Very unlikely to be played in the next 24 hours.

I'm going to have 560k in inducements. I think I will go for three bribes, a wizard and two bloodweiser babes. Going to foul your whole damn team off sparky! Kill me some dead things.

Andy spent a lot of time fouling my girls, and used his one bribe, but I don't think it caused more than stuns. The Wizard defiantly helped him regain the ball at one stage. Having the Bloodwiser babe also helped.

Perhaps Morg might make an appearance?

This is quite obviously a bunch of lies. There is no way new teams can compete with the established ones.

New teams, new coaches for our league. The actual new coaches got slaughtered.

What is the list of actual new coaches to the game entirely. I know there is Haem and me and maybe Ginaz?

I don't think I mentioned brand new coaches.

I'm a brand new coach. Bought the game for the f13 league.

I also bought the game for the league.

That said, I roll my eyes at those putting forth a couple of teams making it deep into the playoffs as anecdotal evidence that the brand new teams were not at a disadvantage this season. AndyDavo is an extremely experienced coach and Lamaros was in the only division with only a single high-TV team. Newer players in tougher divisions pretty regularly had their asses handed to them in ways they clearly found frustrating.

That's not an argument that the way the league was organized was wrong, there were tradeoffs to be made, but the dismissive attitude gets a little  :uhrr:.

I was new-ish, I had only played in one and a half 4 team leagues with the Dark Elves edition, otherwise just some single player. So 7 or 8 games against live players, something like that. I'm sure if I hadn't had that experience though I would have had a much harder time. I guess I did have some relevant experience with other minis games that helped me pick this one up faster too.

I would point out that i'm in the final and my team started (and prob is) a brand new Tv1000 team. I do have alot of experience though.

I would add that it IS hard for lower tv teams to compete effectivly, but the number one thing i look to get every game is a wizard. With any agile team you should be able to turn a  defence into a score and with a bash team you should be able to prevent a score. Assuming that you can score yourself that should be a win, at worst a draw.

I'm probably (definitely) overstating my feelings on this but there were pretty vehement posts periodically at set up time that there was absolutely no way that new teams could compete. Now, obviously I'm flogging that dead horse hard because I'm a dickhole and obviously they're at something of a disadvantage but it's pretty equally obvious that it's simply not true that the brand new teams were at a disastrous disadvantage.

This was the first time I've played against non-AI opponents, played the single player game a bit before this, though.

The argument was never really about new teams as much as it was about new coaches. Experienced player vs experienced player with a TV difference could still go either way. New player vs. experienced player with a large TV difference in the experienced players favor *really* favors the experienced player.

It is what it is at this point though, and now everyone is blooded for S4, right?

Now that I'll agree on but I think, on balance, the new coaches were good sports and did pretty well for themselves.

That they did.

And they got alot better too. 

Off to Jacksonville in a few hours. I passed Commissioner rights for the Playoffs to Modern Angel (Brocktoon).

Have a nice end of the season without me, I'll celebrate you all when I'll be back. And there's a prize too, remember?

Just post here, I guess. I visit several times a day for updates. I'm not certain if replays are still needed at this point for BB Manager but go ahead and have the winner upload them to be safe.

I had a bit of a snit, but I think that was just part of the learning experience. Once I realized that I was both out-gunned and out-classed by most of the competition (I mean, my first game against a human was Comstar's amazons!) it took a couple matches to adjust. Then I started having a blast. Reflecting on it, the thing that frustrated me most this season was the UI - couple bad misclicks and end-of-turn non-follow-ups.

It does help that I had some lucky dice toward the end of the season and was able to influence the playoffs a wee bit. I think knowing I had nothing to lose made it more fun than those who expected to win, because my win condition was just some spp to build the team and no deaths. Once I set that win condition for myself and set about treating each match as a way to practice formations and tactics, the game got a lot more enjoyable.

New coaches with new teams make a huge difference over experienced coaches with new teams. I know my first 2 games at least I had no chance not so much because of my team as because I made a metric fuckton of huge mistakes and got rolled. I got a lot better at making choices and not getting fucked by the clock. The fact that the game is hugely dice dependent and the dice are fickle motherfuckers doesn't help the n00bs overcome frustration. And yes, the UI is ball-licking bad.

I am jonesing for Season 4 and the new league as well.

The fact that the game is hugely dice dependent and the dice are fickle motherfuckers doesn't help the vets overcome frustration.

Andy got off two 1-Dice blocks to knock down my ball carrier, and I failed three times on a 2-dice block to do the same to him - If I'd made any one of them 3 attempts I made in the last 3 turns of the 2nd half, I would have won 1-0. 

Nuffle is a bitch.

I would just like to point out it was only 1, 1 dice block on the balll which (with RR in hand) had a 1/36 chance of failing (ie dislodging the ball) and had the witch only achived a push result then i would of surfed the player too. At the end i was Deliberatly letting you get 2 dice blocks on the ball (for everyone else you need to watch the replay to understand why) since if u had dislodged the ball you couldnt make it safe. I was activly trying to get you to burn rerolls and slowly get the str4 guy to a point where i  could surf him. I would also point out your score came about because my opening plan utterly failed (no surf from middle and a failed dodge with RR gifting you a TD).

While some of your dice were bad, so where mine, also at critical points.

I just checked the dice logs:

On the block dice you had a sucsess of 49% i had 40%, we both rolled more 1's and 2's than statistically likely and we both rolled less 6's than normal, i did slightly roll more 1's and less 6's than you. But as i  said i think it was dice at critical moments that screwed us, I failed a catch on turn 6 to run away a score, you failed a block on turn 8 to make 2-0. One thing was for sure it was a close and tense game decided in the 19th turn!

Double overtime. One dead, one -str. 2-1 to Llyse.

Pissed off. Llyse was fucked by dice early (I got a couple of early injuries, my only for the game) and I probably could have won with some more conservative play. Misused my wizard and then got smashed by kos and injuries.

When the luck turned I was screwed. My two GRs and Stormvermin spent too much time on the side, very hard to score with only 1 or 0 grs on the ground. Rat Ogre again went missing when it was needed.

Fair play to Llyse, played the better game with fewer mistakes. Bloody tired here, will maybe write more later.

So awesome news, nerds! My rights as assistant league administrator are not high enough to validate the match!

That's right: the finals must wait until Falc's return.

oh well, thats sad times.

Even i think i  dont stand much chance in the final - when the last 2 games i thought i had a reasonable chance. i think 600tv and a killer necro team might just, just, prove 1 bridge too far.

Damn you Falc. I wont to get this season over with so the hurt can depart...

In hindsight playing at 10:30pm after getting 3 hours sleep the day before was a bad idea. I really misplayed my last two attempts to score, failing to adjust for the fact I only had one or two GRs and being overly aggressive without the means to pull it off. What can I do now though? Nothing!  :uhrr:

Just a question for those that wont bother to watch the replay:

On the 15th turn Llyse's WW was sitting right next to the endzone. He had no one else with in range and had the ball in hands. He had no rerolls. It was 1-0 my way.

I could have used my Wizard on him. If it didn't fail and I broke armor I won the game. If he failed to pick up the spilled ball I won the game.

Or I could have saved the wizard for overtime and my chance to score and make it 2-1.

What would you have done?

I would have burned the wizard. Saving for OT would involve more variables.

I'd use the wizard, because even if it fails you still get your chance to score and go 2-1. You lose nothing by doing it, essentially, other than a potential opportunity to use it later.

Haven't watched the rep yet, but it would have depended on what your gameplan was, and how many players down you were. You were receiving in OT I think, so I would have let him score, saved the Wizard and used it to guarantee a TD in overtime - if you thought that you still had a good shot at scoring come OT. If not, for example if you felt too pressured to be able to carry the game any further, then using it would have been the right thing to do.

Extra late Match report:

So it's a last minute decision but Lamaros decides to buy Morg n Thorg and a wizard for his significant amount of inducements.

I win the toss and elect to kick and get a Perfect Defense to begin play. I reset my line but somehow fail to notice that I only have 2 players on the line of scrimmage and so my guard, sure hands ghoul is tossed to face Hostus the Juggernaut Rat Ogre. Lamaros 1 of 2 wrestle gutter runners fails to catch the ball and takes down the stalwart zombie lineman before attempting to rip Katze's face off with Hostus. This however leads to a 2 die against and Attacker down is duly rolled and chosen.

Calvin the Menace blitzes his Stormvermin counterpart and Rohmulus the 2nd is knocked off the field until overtime not wanting to follow in his predecessor's footsteps. A ballsy play for Katze the ghoul to dodge twice (once into a TZ) suceeds but instead of pressuring the ball attempts to pick up with 3 TZ and sure hands. This fails and leads to a serious concussion from Morg and Thorg next turn possibly ending his career as the ball carrier.

The Skaven continue to get good the better deal with Hostus taking out Vince the Kicker zombie for 2 matches but decides to play careful and refuses to pick up the ball with 4 tackle zones around it. While stalling continues both gutter runners are knocked before Lamaros makes a run for the TD line with his thrower. By this time, the Necromantic team are down 4 players, 2 permanently and the Skaven are actually up in numbers.

A critical UI mistake means that Instead of Blitzing the ball carrier with Calvin the Legendary Menace, Lamaros runs in for an easy score on the 6th giving 3 turns for Alive not Dead to equalise with only 1 reroll vs Lamaros' 3. Play starts solidly enough with a linerat missing the next game. But Calvin just doesn't seem that agile failing dodge roll after dodge roll dropping the ball next to a gutter runner's hands and an opportunity for Lamaros to go 2 up. He fails the pass however giving Alive not Dead a chance to equalise with a pickup, 2 GFIs and a handoff.

Sadly the pass fails and it's 1-0 to the Skaven team. Both teams receive 1/2 players from KO recovery so both sides have 10 men on the field. It's Brilliant Coaching and Lamaros has 4 rerolls to play with this half. Overall the dice rolls aren't great with a reroll burnt early for Alive not Dead by Calvin the Menace. Luckily the kick is off field and a Werewolf has it in hand.

Morg and Thorg shows his strength and pushes through to pressure the Necromantic team to hand off to the werewolf behind only to fail after burning the reroll to 2/4 for Llyse.

It's about now that Hostus really starts to act up failing Wild Animals turn after turn and with both teams fighting to the tooth and nail the lost of such a key player is telling, however Calvin the Menace fails more dodge rolls giving the rats a sniff of victory. Hostus keeps up failing to move AND eating one of Lamaros' precious (but plentiful rerolls). Calvin picks up the ball after burning 3/4 rerolls on hand-offs, blitzes, and dodges picks up the ball and runs to the sideline.

It's close to overtime, and Llyse only has 1 reroll left but a guarantee score holding the middle quite well with guard and GREGOR. Morg is finally brought down an opportunity to foul with 2 assists appears... however Rob the Zombie needs to make a GFI and fails, idiotically the fear of Morg and Thorg pressures Llyse to reroll to get the foul and the last reroll is gone.  :ye_gods:

Lamaros elects to use the lightning bolt now and it strikes Calvin down but not enough to stun him so he needs to pick up the ball at this critical moment with no backup from the team. He does so and succeeds for the equaliser on the 16th turn! (Benson the Hedge Knight was around to make the pick up but would have needed 2 GFIs in order to cover for Calvin.

It's extra time and the Necromantic team get their full complement of wolves back and have a man advantage vs the rats. Hostus continues to bring the team down failing Wild Animal blocks and Benjamin the linerat decides to switch sides to the Necromantic by killing himself on Rob's rotting fists.

The Skaven are heavily pressured now with the thrower very far back but Benson and Gui aren't far behind pressure the quarterback. In the mean time Gutter runners and receivers are marked and blitzed for entering the Necromantic territory. Gregor and Morg face off and Gregor stands firm while Hostus fails his Wild Animal check, forcing the rats to dodge away which eventually fails.

Hobbes shows that he's no slouch compared to Calvin and KOs Rheemus the Guarding Stormvermin calling an apothecary to keep him on the field. This opens up enough space and the Quarterback is sacked and the ball loose. Before Calvin picks up the ball once again to finally give Alive not Dead the lead 2-1!

Hostus is KOed and double overtime is played giving Lamaros to equalise with 7 on the pitch vs a full 11 Necromantic (1 ex Skaven). Without Vince their key kicker the ball is off field and handed to Morg to run in for an equalising TD. A 2 die against is attempted by Benson but fails to dislodge the ball from the Legendary Ogre and slow progress is made while a gutter runner sets up to receive a pass.

However there are enough bodies in the way that Morg can't get free for a Pass and score ends at Double Overtime at 2-1.

Another great semifinal but costing the Necromantic team their valuable kicker and ball carrier ghoul.

Bring on the Wildcards  :drill:

I think the right answer was to use it earlier in the half, there were a few turns I could have used it to get a free run at the ball. Or to lock it up. However I didn't. And by the time I realized my mistake he had ran it down to my end and I was locked up on halfway.

Really really missed those GRs.

Can't remember for sure but I had at least one GR and Stormvermin out, maybe more. Was down to maybe 7 on the pitch with 2 out for good and 3 KOs.

Wasn't confident about scoring in OT as I was struggling to move the ball w/o more GRs, but I did have a reroll left, and he had none.

Yeah, I always wondering if instead of Morg you had gotten 2 merc gutter runners and see how that would have played. You would have had more money of Bloodweiser girls or bribes etc. You had 2 gutter runners and 2 Stormvermin and I focused them hard so you really only had 1 of each key player on the field for extended periods.

I would have gone for the latter, especially since I'm a careless player. Any injury rolls or failed pickup would have given the 1-0 win in normal time. What I should have done was score on the 15 and not risked that. But I'm a retard  :awesome_for_real:

my efforts were not in vain! thus always to tyrants :mob:

Good writeup Llyse.

I would add that on the final turn on the game I made the pass to the GR from Morg. The GR then needed to make a 3+, 3+ and 2+ dodge sequence to tie the scores at 2-2. He had dodge, but failed it anyhow.

Also in the first half, when I failed to make it 2-0, I had the chance to hit the guarding ghoul on my GR (that failed to catch the handoff), and failed to stand up players to mark the area in case of handoff failure.

For inducements I think I would have gone with my original plan if I did it again; get the other big Rat Ogre and a babe (was never planning on the bribes, just a bit 'o misdirection) as I don't think GRs with loner would have been enough. I usually play GRs with two deep to receive and keep the opponent guessing, one to hang mid field and take the pass so he can give a handoff to the ones deep, and one around to pinch hit with assists, picking the ball up and etc.

The Block GRs are the ones who play deep, and I didn't have any this game. Realising that I should have changed my strategy and gone for a more caging game. This is what I was thinking when I picked up Morg; I would use the two big guys to get some hurt on Llyse and keep the ball carrier safe, playing more of a bashy game.

Except I didn't think it through, and whacked my GRs deep anyhow. Every single drive. Leaving them on the ground (wrestle doesn't help you stay up) or getting them KOd.

It was a really poorly thought out plan, and poorly executed. To be honest I was only in the game to the end because Llyse had some shocking dice in the first half and he deserved it more. If we did it again now, rested and having thought it through I would probably play a whole heap better but without that luck in the first half I'd probably lose still anyhow.

Just did the odds on the train: 42% chance to win the game with my wizard. Wizards have let me down all season.

Rolled SEVEN 1s on Wild Animal rolls.

Also Llyse: That's the first time you've beaten me.  :grin:

(Someone play me. I can't get this game out of my head!)

I wouldn't get merc gutter runners because having players with the loner skill doing any kind of ball handling is just too risky for my tastes. Skaven are kind of boned in the cyanide game because they only get one unique star player and it's a Rat Ogre without block. Morg will always be their best option, but as an alternative I'd get merc storm vermin with an extra skill, probably guard.

Allready had 2/2. You can't get mercs if you have a full quota.

I watched the replay again and I don't think I played better than you at all. For most of the match I felt on the back foot. I could have done better pressuring you to pick up the ball but otherwise it was quite fortunate I got the game into overtime.

One thing that might have helped you was Blitzing with morg more and giving up on your rat ogre but you never know how the dice rolls.

Best of luck vs Avaia!

Yeah, having thought about it more now I think I did the inducements the right way. The real problem I made was not trying to cage up and bash with Morg and Co more, and foolishly sacrificing my GRs to you by leaving them unsupported in your end. If my RO hadn't fallen apart on me I probably had a decent chance of getting the first score in OT. That one where he failed and failed the loner when I needed to clear your WW to run up the side was the killer one.

When that happened I was very tempted to dodge my GR free and throw a long pass to it. Would have got the ball in your end, and with my GR around and no re-rolls either side probably have given me a chance to take it. I probably should have done it too. I was scared of leaving the ball loose and giving you numbers around it, but you had no rerolls and it was no worse than where it was; Leaving my thrower with the ball unprotected near the middle was the wrong choice in the end.

Next season I'll have 4 GRs and some leveled champs hopefully, so there will be some chance at revenge.

Dammit, sorry for having everyone waiting. Good thing there's another league on. I'll be back in 7 days. In other news, Florida is too hot for this snowman, and they didn't arrest me yet. yay!

Was having sex while driving down an interstate everything you dreamed it would be?

Hmm how are the laws in the UK for that?  :why_so_serious:

I don't like going south of about the 42nd latitude.

Surtur's gonna get ya!

When are u  back Falc? when can we enjoy watching me getting horribly crushed?

And I am back! No sex in the car but the highlight of the trip has been a fantastic and totally impromptu threesome. I am sure you all needed this information to resume the Blood Bowl fervor.

Anyway, validating in a few hours, you can start planning the big final!

Good. Lets get this season done and move on to the next one.

Can I use my team from the More Eddie tourny? :P

well as for the final i am happy to stream it if there is anyone interesting in watching the final? I can also provide some ventrilo details if people want to hear the banter. I'm free almost any time now for the next week so let me know what suits? If there is interest- maybe the weekend? if not, whenever i  guess?

I would love to see the stream and listen to the banter.

Oh yes, I would definitely love a stream! I was actually thinking of setting one up for myself for next season, but hadn't gotten around to setting it up yet.

Well to watch the match you can go to this website:   http://www.ukbbl.co.uk/index.php?app=ccs&module=pages&section=pages&folder=&id=5

It's a link to the UKBBL website where they have inbedded the streams from Xfire so all you have to do is stream a match and if your a UKBBL member and have set up Xfire right anyone can watch from there. The ventrilo details are also from UKBBL so i will PM them to you privately as long as i'm allowed (should be ok), but i won't be able to post them publicly for obvious reasons.

Soo.... are we supposed to have xfire installed in order to watch, or only in order to broadcast?

Or you could use one of the two or three voice servers around the f13 sphere. This friggin' kid.

My understanding is that you only need to go to the site to watch, however, if that is not the case downloading Xfire and creating an account doesnt take more than 1-2 mins. I was not aware that F13 had its own ventrillo, i will use that over the UKBBL one for this game then. Sky, whats your problem man?

This weekend is good for me, actually now too  :awesome_for_real:

Scheduled for Sunday GMT +1 5pm GMT +8 midnight.
 :awesome_for_real:

Also,

What should I do to make this f13 blood bowl epic?

1. Play with a lean 11 man team with only 1 ghoul and no kicker?
2. Fire my AV6 ghoul and buy another ghoul giving me a 12 man team
3. Fire my AV6 ghoul and buy another ghoul AND zombie giving me a 13 man team
4. Put Lots of treasury money in to buy one of the following star players:

a) Count Luthor von Drakenborg 6 5 4 9 Block, Sidestep, Hypnotic Gaze, Regeneration, Loner - 390 000
b) NekbrekeRekh 6 4 2 8 Block, Break Tackle, Juggernaut, Strip Ball, Regeneration, Loner - 220 000
c) Ramtut III 5 6 1 9 Wrestle, Mighty Blow, Break Tackle, Regeneration, Loner - 380 000

 :drill:

Choice 4, choice B.

I really liked Nekerekherekhwhatever the times I used him this season.  He might have recovered from his emotional trauma of playing on the Khemri team by now.

4A

3

4A) - The count is a game winner by himself.

Let us know when you guys are going to start this. I'm still up for watching the match.

i thinkit's going to be in 3 hours time, at 5pm GMT. but i will post when we will start and i will hol back for a while. add me on steam and i will send out a reminder there too

11 past... what's going ON!? :uhrr:

Also, my post said 5pm GMT +1
+11111111111111111111111111111

It's apparently difficult to calculate GMT offsets when you live in the GMT zone.

I'm here and online. no response from oppo

Hosting the game now

Hope you have the details because it's turn 2!  :drill:

I feel like some surf music should be playing...

That Werewolf, have survived so many fouls. God damn.

game played, a fairly lucky escape for the elves who managed to run away with a 2-0 win owing much to the help of the wizard. I will upload the replay for those that wish to watch it, if and when i  can remember the password. I would do a write up of the game but i'm not great at such things, maybe one of the spectators or my oppo could do the honors?

Dodge hax.  That pretty much sums it up.

i rememeber snakes eyes 1st half, i'm suprised thats what u thought thou

S4 time!

Thank you for the broadcast by the way, it was really good to watch it unfold live.

Not a problem, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Wow, so we have a winner... which is basically the team with the lowest TV in the whole League. And, sadly, we have a loser too. Llyse might the soon become the Buffalo Bills of Blood Bowl.

Andy, contact me for your 20$ Steam price.

And yes, S#4 time!

YAY SEASON FOUR!

Hey? What? This thing ended? Holy shit.

SEASON 4! YES

Start tomorrow!

Signup thread on PC Gaming forum so we get some newbies to eat?  :grin:

Yes, I will do the usual signup thread there I think. And yes, it's over and unsurprisingly

AndyDavo is the winner!

Video. Want.

AndyDavo should make a Post Final self-interview video. We can write a few questions for him.

I demand a video

I'm so happy the annoying newb ringer won. What a great outcome.

 :oh_i_see:

Any video? I have some from my US trip.

Oh god, don't bring the FBI into this.

no please no

Haha!

I will happily do that, or i'l come on vent and talk to anyone about the season as a whole. Or both.

Thanks for your support, it means a lot.

I'm so down for Season 4. Let's get it on!

And either we all fucking L2P or he will so easily win again.

It's not the winning that bothers me.

You know, for all the spelling mistakes and whatnot that usually set me off like a landmine, AndyDavo's really not the one looking like a dickhole here, Sky.

Just makes me more annoyed that I flubbed my game against Comstar, therefore denying myself a semis match with the battered elves. And my Norse would have been out for buckets of blood... :grin:

PS: Now I'm even more afraid to go and look at my final replay to see if, had I moved my werewolf differently, I could have scored on my final drive to force OT against Comstar's rapidly-fading amazons. :oh_i_see:

Well i'm looking forward to the match being validated and also season 5. I really enjoyed this last season, apart from losing bucket loads of players :)

I think the lesson here is if you kill a Thro-Ra in game one, you are going to win the champeenship.  :cry2:

Congrats to AndyDavo.  Even though he's a BB vet, I'm still surprised he won considering the shit kicking his team took over the season with injuries and all.  Nicely done.

Thank you. It was a hard thing to achive but i'm very happy with it. I think the Wildcards have played their final game however....

Obviously I'm extremely late (Work insanity) but major props to Andy.

I haven't looked at stats nor the replay but I don't think the dice favoured neither player too much.

Just beaten by the subtle nuance of near perfect play.

The biggest mistake made was risking my stars so carelessly but ah well

Sick of waiting for Falconeer to take care of this, I've taken it upon myself to hand out the player awards and such - apparently, he is too busy to handle such Serious Business. All returning and new teams should pay close attention to these awards, as we will all have to face these players in the upcoming season, so everyone should...plan accordingly.  :grin: Remember, this is not just for show: the players you see here are actually the most experienced at what they do, have good SP, skills, and are the lucky charms of their coaches, meaning they will always be the focus of an action, and they would cause emotional distress if injured or killed. So while these guys and girls are getting an acknowledgment today, they are officially reserving themselves a spot in everyone's crosshair. Watch out for these true badasses.




* Season #3 Individual Awards *


Most Experienced Player: Calvin the Menace (Alive Not Dead, Coach Llyse)

Calvin, having lost his mate Hobbes, was forced to step it up this season. He's a level 5 (!!) werewolf with Side Step, Block, Mighty Blow, and Dodge. He also scored for 5 TDs and inflicted 5 casualties and 1 kill. He is certainly a formidable opponent, and holds a significant lead in XP over Freight Train Joe and last-season's MVP Sowarg Whitemane.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2459685/BB%20player%20xp.jpg)




Best Scorer: Calvin the Menace (Alive Not Dead, Coach Llyse)

Calvin dominated this category as well, in line with his generally-dominant season. Beyond Calvin, the rest of the list is mostly dominated by Amazons and Wood Elves. Whoever winds up in Calvin's division has their work cut out for them.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2459685/BB%20player%20scorer.jpg)




Most Violent: Calvin the Menace (Alive Not Dead, Coach Llyse)

Calvin is quite the menace, injuring 9 players throughout the season. He is followed closely by a bloody group of Norse players - Vagn the Iceboi of North by Northwest, and the twin threats of Grimrgeirr and Bersifrear of Diplomatic Immunity.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2459685/BB%20player%20violent.jpg)




Best Killer: Calvin the Menace (Alive Not Dead, Coach Llyse)

Yes another category won by Calvin, who has now won it for two seasons in a row. In fact, Alive Not Dead managed a perfect sweep of the category, winning the top three spots with a combined 7 kills - no one team is even close.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2459685/BB%20player%20killer.jpg)




Best Runner: Bersi Kormak (Diplomatic Immunity, Coach Strazos) Martin Meatsacker, Strongmen

Coming out of nowhere, Martin is credited with 254 yards this season. Bersi makes a strong showing with 218 yards. Both will certainly be players to keep your eyes one.

(Admittedly, this category seems to be bugged.)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2459685/BB%20player%20runner.jpg)




Best Thrower: Naeltor (Hazardous Hippies, Coach Teleku)

Naeltor repeats his performance from last season, completing a staggering 10 passes. A great feat, for sure. With such a disparity in completions, the next category was not in doubt...

(again, BB is bugged, carrying over some stats from previous seasons)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2459685/BB%20player%20thrower.jpg)




Best Thrower (Yards): Naeltor (Hazardous Hippies, Coach Teleku)

In route to winning this award yet again, Naeltor managed to absolutely eviscerate his opponents, throwing for an amazing 146 yards - almost double of the next-best passer. Anyone matched up against these Wood Elves will certainly need to keep the passing game in check if they wish to come away with points.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2459685/BB%20player%20%20thrower%20yardage.jpg)




Best Receiver: Ivan A Bitealot (Morsel, Coach Megrim), Gloranel (Hazardous Hippies, Coach Teleku), Aganippe Synope (F13 Catfighters, Coach Comstar)

Three of the leagues best receivers managed to catch their way into a 3-way tie for Best Receiver. Ivan is last-season's category champion, Gloranel has the league's #1 thrower tossing him the ball, and Aganippe is on an extremely strong Amazon team. Look for all three to continue to be passing threats in Season 4.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2459685/BB%20player%20receiver.jpg)



Best Interceptor: Eight-Way Tie!

With the proliferation of passing teams, interceptions went up sharply in Season 3. While no one player was able to distinguish themselves from the pack to win this category outright, discerning players will note that Hoax's Scarlet and Grey managed two rare interceptions this season. With coaches maturing in their play throughout the season, look for this category to rise in importance in Season 4.

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2459685/BB%20player%20interceptor.jpg)





Summary:

Most Experienced Player: Calvin the Menace (Alive Not Dead, Coach Llyse)
Runner up: Freight Train Joe (Team Snoosnoo, Coach Modern Angel)


Best Scorer: Calvin the Menace (Alive Not Dead, Coach Llyse)
Runner up: Aganippe Synope (F13 Catfighters, Coach Comstar)

Most Violent: Calvin the Menace (Alive Not Dead, Coach Llyse)
Runner up: Grimrgeirr and Bersifrear (Diplomatic Immunity, Coach Strazos), Vagn the Iceboi (North by Northwest, Coach Xuri)

Best Killer: Calvin the Menace (Alive Not Dead, Coach Llyse)
Runner up: Benson the Hedge Knight and Rob (Alive Not Dead, Coach Llyse)

Best Runner: Martin Meatsacker (Strongman, Coach Scadente)
Runner up: Bersi Kormak (Diplomatic Immunity, Coach Strazos)

Best Thrower: Naeltor (Hazardous Hippies, Coach Teleku)
Runner up: Erugoldur Madirina (Peace Dogs, Coach Haemish)

Best Thrower (Yards): Naeltor (Hazardous Hippies, Coach Teleku)
Runner up:  Erugoldur Madirina (Peace Dogs, Coach Haemish)

Best Receiver: Ivan A Bitealot (Morsel, Coach Megrim)
Tied With: Gloranel (Hazardous Hippies, Coach Teleku) and Aganippe Synope (F13 Catfighters, Coach Comstar)

Best Interceptor: Eight-Way Tie!





** Season #3 Overall MVP: Calvin the Menace (Alive Not Dead, Coach Llyse)

Great post Strazos!  :heart:

I was considering retiring Alive not Dead but after seeing the awards I'm inspired to try again  :drill:

Here's hoping I end up in Llyse's division again, Bort has some unfinished werewolf business to take care of.

Please, don't let me stop you. :grin:

Awesome, Strazos. I am so thankful for this post. I was missing mine too, but can't bring myself to do much computer-wise these days.

Great stuff there, so again, thank you so much.

Now, what the hell, SOMEONE KILL THAT FUCKIN WOLF!

Just noticed how many silly typos I had...but it was late, and doesn't quite matter at this point.  :oh_i_see:

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