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Title: Democracy Fails.
Post by: Rasix on February 23, 2011, 09:54:51 AM
Please note: I'll cut off voting around 10pm PST today.  I'll be out tomorrow and perhaps not playing, so I want the direction available tomorrow for headstart people.

Please only vote if you'd like to hang out with whatever this becomes.  This is non-binding as we may stumble upon a very good idea when we get some feedback here.  I listed PVE-RP servers because that's where people indicated they'd like to play.

If you have a f13 friendly guild going somewhere, let us know as that could be a good option.  

Personal disclosure: I probably won't be incredibly active and I play later at night. I can help get things going, whatever we decide on, but I'm not a good caretaker going forward.  Anyhow, interested in learning where people would like to play.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Nebu on February 23, 2011, 10:01:30 AM
I'm in on Thursday and have 2 friends joining me for at least the first month.   I know absolutely nothing about forming a guild in this game. 


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: ghost on February 23, 2011, 10:06:59 AM
I'll probably sign in on whatever is decided. 


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Nebu on February 23, 2011, 10:10:16 AM
I'll probably sign in on whatever is decided. 

Me as well.  I don't really care what server or side.  I just want to annoy f13 members through a different medium.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Nonentity on February 23, 2011, 11:23:37 AM
I have a few real life buddies who I will be playing with, we've decided on Guardian PVE, but nothing beyond that. I'll happily go wherever people go to have a larger pool of people available.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Sky on February 23, 2011, 11:33:36 AM
If someone wants to gift me a copy of the game, I'll set up BC on Faeblight  :why_so_serious:

Best bet would be to make a secondary guild on the opposite faction, same server, given experiences in betA.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Nonentity on February 23, 2011, 11:34:03 AM
Oh, those are RP servers. I take my vote back.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Rasix on February 23, 2011, 11:35:57 AM
That just seemed to be what people were trending to in the MMO forum post.  I'd rather not split people up over something trivial.  Some folks just want the added filtering, and I won't deny them that.

Does this mean you won't be joining us?  :vv:


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Nonentity on February 23, 2011, 11:39:10 AM
Not if it's on an RP server. While I'm not fond of the crowd on a regular server, the crowd on an RP server I dislike even more. I can put up with common internet assery, but roleplaying internet assery kind of makes me want to die.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on February 23, 2011, 11:40:42 AM
just turn off chat?


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Nonentity on February 23, 2011, 11:50:08 AM
Eh, it's more playstyle habits and reactions of the people generally found on the servers that bothers me moreso than chat.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: ghost on February 23, 2011, 12:06:40 PM
I think that the consensus is that the RP servers typically cater to an older crowd, thus the interest from people here.  I personally don't care, since I probably won't be interacting with folks not in Bat Country that much anyway.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Nonentity on February 23, 2011, 12:07:48 PM
I'll probably end up picking Byriel - I have a few people I know there.

Or not - they're playing Defiant. Bah.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Rasix on February 23, 2011, 12:20:22 PM
I'm pretty indifferent personally.  I haven't played on RP servers in the past, but I don't really tend to integrate into server culture.  It'll be all the same to me.

Btw, I'm aggregating the guardian/defiant votes. I think that's only fair in the odd situation that we have a winning server/faction that doesn't match the overal faction preference.   I'm sure I'll end up pissing someone off here.  :awesome_for_real:



Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Lantyssa on February 23, 2011, 12:37:35 PM
Gah.  View Results doesn't show if you haven't voted.

I'd put Faeblight Defiant, but I won't be getting this at release and it may be some time before I do, if ever.  I don't want to skew the results by voting.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Rasix on February 23, 2011, 12:43:13 PM
Gah.  View Results doesn't show if you haven't voted.

Really?  Hmm, I set it so you should be able to.  :|


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Bandit on February 23, 2011, 12:46:41 PM
I am not sure how active I can be at the early stages right now, but I have pre-ordered and don't have any preference to server.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Azuredream on February 23, 2011, 12:48:43 PM
<Rolling Guardian on Faeblight.

edit; not averse to Guardian on Shadefallen, but I figured I should just pick one so I did.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Cadaverine on February 23, 2011, 12:52:36 PM
I chose Faeblight/Defiant, but Guardian works too.  It's not like the classes are any different, or anything.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Ghambit on February 23, 2011, 12:54:51 PM
Given the fact that the game populace as a whole seems a bit more 'hardcore' than your typical MMO, I'd be willing to bet the RP servers are gonna be pretty flooded at release-time.  The ol' trick of using RP as a 'filter' doesnt really work anymore imo, since everyone now tries the same trick.  (shrug)



Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Nebu on February 23, 2011, 01:03:44 PM
Given the fact that the game populace as a whole seems a bit more 'hardcore' than your typical MMO, I'd be willing to bet the RP servers are gonna be pretty flooded at release-time.  The ol' trick of using RP as a 'filter' doesnt really work anymore imo, since everyone now tries the same trick.  (shrug)

That's a decent point, though we don't know how hardcore the general population will be.  Beta population is usually filled by the shouting minority. 


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: schild on February 23, 2011, 03:00:42 PM
I think I'm getting a copy. I don't care what server we're on though.

I did like the PVP in Warhammer though, so I'm mildly torn.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Bzalthek on February 23, 2011, 03:13:33 PM
I only chose shadefallen guardian due to it being lower alphabetically, which should filter more people out.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Ghambit on February 23, 2011, 03:20:53 PM
I think I'm getting a copy. I don't care what server we're on though.

I did like the PVP in Warhammer though, so I'm mildly torn.

There's ramblings they may add RvR some point soon.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: schild on February 23, 2011, 03:39:58 PM
Will they add it to the PvE servers? if so, we good. PvE seems fine.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Rasix on February 23, 2011, 03:50:19 PM
Will they add it to the PvE servers? if so, we good. PvE seems fine.

I don't see why they couldn't.  There's battleground/scenario like stuff on PVE servers as well, just no open ganking.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Sky on February 23, 2011, 03:55:57 PM
I think Port Scion would be the same for both rulesets, yeah?


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Nonentity on February 23, 2011, 04:00:37 PM
I think I might end up picking Gnarlwood or Greybriar PVE Guardian, based solely on the fact that I have heard nothing about either of them and they are in the middle of the server list.

Both seem to have a decent amount of guilds posting threads for both Defiant and Guardian.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Fargull on February 23, 2011, 04:36:20 PM
Let me know.  I voted Fae Guard, but really open.  Just planning on having fun.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: kildorn on February 23, 2011, 04:41:30 PM
There is encouraged world pvp on the pve servers as well (a lot of quests ask you to gank flagged NPCs or flagged players, but are clearly labeled PVP)

That said, I'm down with Faeblight/Guardian. RP-PVE just suits me, the communities in beta seemed okay guardian side on them (with absolutely zero RP, beyond that creepy couple sitting in town emoting at each other all day)


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Bzalthek on February 23, 2011, 05:04:52 PM
beyond that creepy couple sitting in town emoting at each other all day

That was me two-boxing!


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: ghost on February 23, 2011, 05:08:37 PM
Two box cybering?


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Bzalthek on February 23, 2011, 05:10:29 PM
Indeed, I call it Cybation


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Ghambit on February 23, 2011, 05:14:04 PM
I think Port Scion would be the same for both rulesets, yeah?

Have you been able to play in the PS Warfront?  


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: veredus on February 23, 2011, 05:21:59 PM
Rolling Faeblight/Guardian with some friends.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Nonentity on February 23, 2011, 06:34:38 PM
I'm going Greybriar PVE, Guardian side. It seems like a healthy middle-of-the-road PVE server with a good split of guilds throwing their flags down either faction.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Lantyssa on February 23, 2011, 07:46:14 PM
Really?  Hmm, I set it so you should be able to.  :|
It appends ";ViewResults" to the URL, but just shows the "pick one" poll.

This sounds like a job for Super Trippy!


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on February 23, 2011, 08:06:25 PM
ugh guardian? i look forward to killing you guys in the battlegrounds


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Bzalthek on February 23, 2011, 08:27:28 PM
It will be a pleasure.  Defiants are so emo I can just sit there and watch you cut yourself for me.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on February 23, 2011, 09:09:53 PM
I tried levelling guardian to maybe 15 but man it was way too...disney.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Rasix on February 23, 2011, 11:09:37 PM
Faeblight Guardian it is.  Someone create Bat Country and invite people in tomorrow. I won't be on until late. 



Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: schild on February 23, 2011, 11:20:59 PM
Wait wait, what the fuck? We were the good guys in WAR.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: schild on February 23, 2011, 11:28:48 PM
I would like to vote we join Greybriar, force Nonentity into Bat Country and not roll on an RP server with FAE in the fucking name.

Goddamn server will be full of awful.

His logic of it having a boring name is very, very sound. Not to mention, guys, RP. Really. RP. I should've been paying harder attention.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Falconeer on February 24, 2011, 04:26:16 AM
No Bazooko this time around?


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Tannhauser on February 24, 2011, 04:53:24 AM
I'll roll on Fae/Guardian when I get home this afternoon, but will check in here to see if there's been any changes.  Going to be Sentinel/Inquisitor/Cabalist in that order of priority.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Pennilenko on February 24, 2011, 07:20:58 AM
I'm going Greybriar PVE, Guardian side. It seems like a healthy middle-of-the-road PVE server with a good split of guilds throwing their flags down either faction.

I shall probably do this.


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: 01101010 on February 24, 2011, 07:50:29 AM
Peer pressure is a mother fucker. Where and when - I'll be there. :(


Title: Re: Bat Country / general f13 server option (PVE)
Post by: Rasix on February 24, 2011, 07:59:03 AM
Schild, do not interfere with the will of the people.



Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Hawkbit on February 24, 2011, 08:09:56 AM
He has a point, though.  Faeblight has potential to end up like Brandywine, where nobody can transfer to the server in a year and its always lagged out. 

Either way, we should try to put pen to paper on this decision by 1EST so folks know where to go, momentum and all that...


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Pennilenko on February 24, 2011, 08:25:35 AM
Down with gay server names!   :mob:


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Ghambit on February 24, 2011, 08:26:29 AM
Anyone else think the poll was kinda  :awesome_for_real:?


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Rasix on February 24, 2011, 08:31:24 AM
Yes, because I didn't explain any it. At all.   For fuck's sake.

This is what I get for trying to help I guess.  Do whatever the hell you all want. I'm going to a golf tournament.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Mrbloodworth on February 24, 2011, 08:42:56 AM
This is why we cant have nice guilds.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on February 24, 2011, 09:00:47 AM
I'm starting my own guild defiant side on faeblight called tripping the rifts, just because.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: kildorn on February 24, 2011, 09:41:40 AM
So what is the record for BC failing? Because I think "before the server picking thread ends" is a pretty good attempt at record setting <3


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Hawkbit on February 24, 2011, 10:01:11 AM
There's still two hours!!  We can do it!   :awesome_for_real:

Stay with Faeblight Guardian, as the poll goes... Rasix is right about the will of the people.  Besides, if it ends up terrible, I'm 98% sure Trion has plans in place for server transfers. 


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Nebu on February 24, 2011, 10:47:00 AM
Just pick a server and a side.  I don't really care, I just want to know where to create a toon. 


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: 01101010 on February 24, 2011, 11:35:12 AM
RP server then? Great... I can RP an assassin that only knows three words, yes-no-FUCK!


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Hawkbit on February 24, 2011, 12:02:05 PM
1:01PM, position in queue 948, 43min wait.   :uhrr:


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Cadaverine on February 24, 2011, 12:05:27 PM
Just shy of 3 hour wait on Deepstrike.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: 01101010 on February 24, 2011, 12:06:03 PM
1:01PM, position in queue 948, 43min wait.   :uhrr:

?? I got right on for some reason... the servers were greyed and then started popping.

Binari - guardian on Gayblight - assassin.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Jherad on February 24, 2011, 12:10:16 PM
Wow. Went to get a coffee to avoid the first five minute login frenzy - came back - position in queue 1103.

Popular launch I guess!


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Nonentity on February 24, 2011, 12:11:19 PM
I'm up as Nonentity on Greybriar.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Cadaverine on February 24, 2011, 12:12:14 PM
Position in queue 1809.  Estimated wait 5 hours, 59 minutes.


Edit: Make that 7 hours.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Hawkbit on February 24, 2011, 12:15:55 PM
Every server is Full now, they just brought up two more.  Queue popped up to 2.5 hrs on Faeblight, I think the next few days are going to be tough getting folks together.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Mrbloodworth on February 24, 2011, 12:22:46 PM
Pre-orders only?


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: veredus on February 24, 2011, 12:25:56 PM
Ended up rolling on Shadefallen, Faeblight is crazy.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: kildorn on February 24, 2011, 12:27:03 PM
So yeah, are they playing games with the server caps, or what?


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Jherad on February 24, 2011, 12:27:29 PM
Yeah, my wait time is at 4 hours now. I won't be playing on Fae this afternoon.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Cadaverine on February 24, 2011, 12:28:25 PM
Pre-orders only?

Yeah, this is just the pre-orders.  Except, everyone and their mother seems to have pre-ordered the game.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Nebu on February 24, 2011, 01:09:01 PM
If Faeblight is slammed, I'm rolling someplace else with 3 friends.  Just want a med pop server.  I'm fine with turning chat off.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Threash on February 24, 2011, 01:14:10 PM
All servers are slammed.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Nebu on February 24, 2011, 01:19:05 PM
All servers are slammed.

That won't be the case forever.  I may just wait to roll when they open the second batch of servers.  I'm in no rush to get to the endgame.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Xuri on February 24, 2011, 02:08:32 PM
Urgh. Position in Queue: 78 - nearly there now.

Though I still haven't managed to make up my mind whether I want to play as a Guardian or Defiant.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Soukyan on February 24, 2011, 02:15:08 PM
Not sure what server caps are set at, but 33+ servers full with multiple-hour queues on pre-launch is pretty amazing. If nothing else, they made some nice box sales. I hope the queue calm down and they don't create too many low population servers. It's a lot more fun when Warfronts pop quickly and there are lots of folks to run dungeons and rifts with.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Bzalthek on February 24, 2011, 02:33:52 PM
4.45 hour queue, but I'll be on faeblight then.  Guess I can do some schoolwork until then.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: kildorn on February 24, 2011, 03:04:29 PM
Hah, 4 hour queue. I'll wait and make something later.

edit: so does this go down as a GOOD launch due to no apparent crashing all over the place, or a bad launch due to 4 hour queues on every server?


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Bzalthek on February 24, 2011, 03:37:35 PM
down to 1:20, disconnected, back to 5


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Simond on February 24, 2011, 03:38:05 PM
Hah, 4 hour queue. I'll wait and make something later.

edit: so does this go down as a GOOD launch due to no apparent crashing all over the place, or a bad launch due to 4 hour queues on every server?
Depends. Do you count the vanilla WoW launch as good or bad?  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Nebu on February 24, 2011, 03:38:48 PM
I think a good launch means that everyone can click the PLAY button and actually play.  Waiting 4h is not playing.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Bzalthek on February 24, 2011, 03:43:17 PM
By that definition there is no good launch, ever.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Hawkbit on February 24, 2011, 03:51:03 PM
down to 1:20, disconnected, back to 5

Twice now that's happened to me.  This is frustrating, to say the least.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: 01101010 on February 24, 2011, 03:51:24 PM
Server was just reset for "tweaks" as they called it. I think they just bumped everyone who got in first off to allow others to play.  :why_so_serious:

Public group/rift things are pretty cool... chaos personified right now since there were so many in the raids but having no idea wtf I was doing was good fun.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Soukyan on February 24, 2011, 03:54:04 PM
down to 1:20, disconnected, back to 5

Twice now that's happened to me.  This is frustrating, to say the least.

Someone wrote that occasional mouse movement/interaction (say every 30 minutes) may prevent those disconnects while you are in the queue. I have not been able to verify this as I've been at work, but figured I'd pass it along in case it helps.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Bzalthek on February 24, 2011, 03:55:59 PM
I can verify this as false.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Xuri on February 24, 2011, 03:56:55 PM
I got disconnected a few times while in the queue, but was able to reconnect and appear in the same spot in the queue as before. NA servers are now down for ~15 minutes (10 of those done already) for "server maintenance", btw.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Nonentity on February 24, 2011, 04:01:36 PM
People are gonna be scattered due to the queues, it's inevitable.

I'm sticking with Greybriar ATM, just hit level 11.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Bzalthek on February 24, 2011, 04:12:10 PM
Faeblight, Guardian, Cleric - Bzera


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: schild on February 24, 2011, 06:46:16 PM
If I ever get it, I'll be heading over to Greybriar. Generic server ftw.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: 01101010 on February 24, 2011, 07:20:20 PM
If I ever get it, I'll be heading over to Greybriar. Generic server ftw.

Full as well. Funny.. I logged to go eat and have a smoke and take a dump - log back and boom - 5h queue. Pick another server, Sun-whatever-morfiend... 5 hours... every server is slammed. So i am now going to hit whatever new server pops up in the mean time to try out a few things.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: schild on February 24, 2011, 08:13:31 PM
About to say. Maybe we should just wait til new servers this weekend.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Rasix on February 24, 2011, 08:14:47 PM
Did not anticipate large server queues.  Heh.  Definitely throws a wrench into everything.

Guess we'll all be scattered to the winds again.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: schild on February 24, 2011, 08:20:01 PM
Whenever new servers are announced, can someone hit me up on Steam?

I'll pick a server and we'll go to town on it.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Threash on February 24, 2011, 08:42:00 PM
They've announced new servers like four times on global chat while i was playing all afternoon.


Title: Re: Bat Country (PVE) - Faeblight Guardian
Post by: Soukyan on February 24, 2011, 08:53:19 PM
Whenever new servers are announced, can someone hit me up on Steam?

I'll pick a server and we'll go to town on it.

They've added around 15 new servers since launch at 10 AM. There are servers with no queue right now. Hop on and play.