f13.net

Here it is!

Creating it in game as we speak.

Everyone can join AS LONG AS YOU ARE JOINING WITH A BRAND NEW TEAM. Have fun. Remember, you will only be able to join Season #4 with a 1250 team.

In order for a team to be able to join the Main League coming from the Feeder it has to:

- have not more than 1250 TV
- have ZERO cash available (you can waste excess money on Assistant coaches and Cheerleaders and then fire the extra ones)
- have 11 players
- having played only and exclusively in f13 endorsed Leagues.

It is possible to demote a team from the Main League to the Feeder League, but again always remember that if any of your teams play even a single match out of the f13 circuit that team is banned for life and death. Also, a team that played in the Main League, and then got demoted in the Feeder, can only join the Main League IF its TV is 1250 or less and all that jazz. Meaning, no matter who you are, the rules to go from Feeder to Main are the usuals.


Plus, we can change the rules at any given time. So don't commit too much towards that exploit you are thinking of right now.

The name of the League in game is: f13 MatchMaking Feeder League
The league password is:



The League can be found in BBManager too, but it goes without saying it is NOT necessary to upload anything there. This League is not really competitive, and there is no prize (in game or out game) for the winning team. You can still upload your replays on BBManager if you feel like it, but it's not mandatory. The password to upload is the same you use to join. So not the same of the Main League (so you would notice in case you were uploading a replay to the wrong League).

What about more than one team?

Not possible, hardcoded by Cyanide. It's beyond us.

Looks like another strongly worded letter to Cyanide, then.   :why_so_serious:

I'm in with my chaotic Drama Queers. Anyone up for a Leaguewarming first match?

Trying to think of a good Goblin team name before I give up and choose Chaos or Nurgle instead.    :grin:

I imagine we can pull teams in or out though?

Either way, it's a good excuse for me to start building my long-awaited Chaos team.  At least getting block on a few Beastmen will make a huge difference if I decide to play them later, and that can easily be done at 1250 or under.

I imagine we can also build our team as high as we want, TV-wise, in the matchmaking league, and just never transfer them also.  Hmmmm.

That's true. Also, you can get higher than 1250 and then fjust fire enough player to get under that score, but BEWARE! No team will be allowed in the Main League without 11 players. So basically you can't keep playing in the Feeder until you get a couple of player to Lev 7, then fire the rest of the team and play matches with jusy a bunch of Mercs + your two homegrown Star Players.

In order for a team to be able to join the Main League coming from the Feeder it has to:

- have not more than 1250 TV
- have 11 players
- having played only and exclusively in f13 endorsed Leagues.

I guess it's possible to demote a team from the Main League to the Feeder League, but again always remember that if any of your teams play even a singl match out of the f13 circuit that team is banned for life and death.

Just applied with the Ex-Presidents of Doom.  Chaos Warrior George Washington is going to stomp your faces!   :drill:

Alright. Put I am gonna challenge you now. Be in game!

Was going to apply with the Goblin team, Pygmy Love Circus, then came to my senses.  Wood Elf team, The Scary Monkey Show represent!

Accepted your application, Cad.

First game, Chaos vs. Chaos is happening right now  :awesome_for_real:

Haha, I think everybody is going to make a Chaos team.  Its the first thing that came to my mind as an alternate team to try, plus the feeder league allows you to bypass the nasty growing pains of a Chaos team.  Theres going to be a lot of Chaos come season 4.

That's true to an extent, although 1250 is still very low TV for a decent Chaos team.

I've put in an application for the Snooty Royals.

The Goblin team Kenosha Maroons has applied.  Will most likely be a few days before I can play, for those of you looking for easy goblin smashing.   :oh_i_see:

Tv and not games limit is a dumb way of things, favors slow leveling teams much more.

But seeing how I'm going to put an Orc side in, I guess I'll let it slide.

My Dadaist-themed Chaos team is still hanging around in Naggaroth, but evidently there is going to be more than enough Chaos going around. I am kind of tempted to remake my R.A. Salvatore's Dark Elf team for the feeder league, but given that they hit 1500 TV after only four games I am kind of skeptical about being able to whittle such a team down to qualify for a transfer longer-term.

I have a Khemri team lying around that will join up, I don't see myself ditching my precious dwarves for the Real League so it doesn't really matter to me what limits, etc., we set.

Hear hear. (See previous comment about the rather eye-bulging TV-to-games-played ratio of my Dark Elf team in Nagg. 125 TV per game, which if replicated in the feeder league would mean two games before the cap.)

I dunno, I feel weird about letting in teams from here to the main league at all but it's not my call. I figured it was mainly there just so we could randomize and play each other.

It probably cant hurt too much, given the general dominance of the established teams this season in the league, plus it can help people try a team out before they join the league with it. As long as the new teams are still a ways behind the oldest teams of the league I think I'm ok with it.

The Ex-Presidents of Doom are victorious!  Chester A. Arthur scores the first TD of the league, and I have my revenge against Falconeer.  Praise be to Nuffle!

Also, a TV limit will probably mean people will not get rerolls and apoth and extra players until they join the league, just storing their money instead. Easy to cut down on 300 or more TV that way...

I think unspent cash still counts as half for TV, but yeah.

I have a Necro team in the Auld World Cup that has only ever played one game (versus Hoax in a 'friendly'). Can that join the league?

Personally, I don't have any plans to transfer the Ex-Presidents.  I already have an orc team that I can bring back in, and my current Skavens.  I just wanted a matchmaking league to play against other f13ers.  It'll likely be my new Auld World league.

Just created a vampire team and app'd. Chicago has already shut down for the Manitoba Mauler tomorrow, so I'll be looking for games for the next 24-36 hours.

Yeah, I'm snowed in too, Bann.  Dallas ISD has called snow days for today and tomrrow.  The next day looks like Blood Bowl heaven after I get back from the beer store for "provisions."

Just to clarify. We called it feeder cause it is "possible" to transfer a team from this League to the Main One, but the conditions are restrictive and punishing for a reason. As some of you pointed out, 1250 is a very low score and it takes nothing to surpass it. I think people should see this League as a way to get friendly games more easily, which eventually MIGHT lead to a transfer to the Major League. I suggest you people don't try to stay under 1250, just play away. And eventually, later, at some point, try to do your minmaxing to see if you can do anything good enough to stay within the 1250. You can get as high as you want with TV in the Feeder League, you only have to cut down to 1250 if you want to transfer.

And no IainC, I'd say no to your transfer, sorry. Let's make things easier by avoiding exceptions of any kind.

And I accepted all applications so far.

I'll just make a team who's only purpose is killing and maiming the other teams players then.   :awesome_for_real:

I operate under this theory at all times.

I decided to try out a Chaos team. Blood Buckets has put their application in.

I'm half temped to put in a halfling team for the pathetic lulz.

My Dark Elf team, Other People, has applied to join the league, though why a bunch of barely-armoured elves would want to throw in with a league entirely made up of slavering, mutated beastmen is unclear.

Considering how many Chaos Warriors and Beastmen Lamaros' assassin just stabbed in the hips, I'd say your odds aren't bad.  Seriously, I've got two chaos warriors with a -1MV now, and a dead Rutherford B. Hayes.

Possibly the best game an Assassin has played. 3 casualties and two KOs. And he was given skills point for them too.

Nuffle is a tricksy beast. Without an apoth or any rerolls I managed to win, taking out half Ruvaldt's team. It was nasty nasty stuff. Just when we thought the Assassin could do no more he went and took out another two players. Against 8 and 9 AV too...

Applied with a Human team.

Also, no I really don't think it does. Otherwise you'd see Dwarf and Ork teams with +1k to their tvs just from the money they have piled up.

...Why dwarf and ork teams?

They aren't well known for losing players.

We could also just say that if your team joins the real league, you aren't allowed to bring any money with you.  Still think its a fair trade off for getting a chance to level a team up the way you want.

Also, just applied with a Dwarven Team.  Somebody let me in!

I was going to write something about people not fucking understanding that this is the exact problem with importing teams into a (mildly) competitive league, but I think at this stage I really can't be bothered.

Yeah. 1250 TV after 7 games, accepting what comes your way is a hell of a lot different to 1250 TV that you have carefully planned and pruned after 30 games.

I am pretty dead set against anyone entering the league this way, but until it looks likely to happen I guess won't make too much of an issue of it.

Yeah, it won't come up for a while.  Right now I'm just enjoying the new league, and plotting revenge against Nuffle's pet assassin.

On the other hand, it still compares fairly poorly with 1800+ TV, which is around where I expect a few of the veteran teams will finish this season. If a TV limit is going to be used, with all the perks that entails for teams in terms of grooming players, having it the limit itself set very low is going to correct for those problems in terms of league viability.

Personally I am fine either way -- I do think a games-played metric makes more sense, but like many others I am mostly going to just be playing random games and having fun, not worrying about funnelling SPP to my linesmen or whatever.

How about adding some people to approve apps?  Timezones and all... :hello_thar:

applied

Approved everything.

I agree that 1250 TV and NO MONEY in your pocket is the way you go. You fine tune your 1250 if you want but you enter the new League with that and just that (20k give or take if you really can't make the math works between burning extra money on players to fire and evening out with some cheerleader and stuff). So it's not really NO MONEY. Let's say 1250 TV and 20K cash in your pocket.

Approved all the applications.

Applied with Carnifex's Cripplers as I plan to join in for season 4.

Couldn't you just apply your money to extra cheerleaders, save, then go back in and fire them all?  Since Cheerleaders only cost 10K, that means you should be able to zero out all your cash.  You can do the same with rerolls and the such.

Yeah, that would be the best way of getting rid of all of your money before entering the regular league since no money is refunded when you fire assistant coaches, etc.

You can fire Coaches and Cheerleaders? Ok then, back to the original NO MONEY POLICY. Updated requisites in the OP.

Hi All

I have lurked on F13 for some time and followed the previous BB league thread with a lot of interest and this season's tournament even got me to invest in a copy of the game which I have to say is very good fun just against the AI. So I would like to apply to join the feeder league with a view to joining the main league in season 4 if there is space, hopefully this should be a good way to learn the game before the srs business starts and get to know you all in the process, so if there is no objection I'd like ot put forward my Lizardmen team - The Minizilla's

Ulysees

Hiya, Ulysees.  Don't forget to join the Steam group; it makes it a lot easier for the rest of us to see that you're online and available to organize a game in the matchmaking league.  That goes for everyone else joining who isn't in the regular league.  Steam is my primary means of assessing who is online and ready for a game and who isn't because I don't like hanging out in the Blood Bowl lobby all day.  So unless I see you around on Steam I won't know to ask, and vice versa.

Apparently people can join with more than one team.

What do you think? Should we allow this?

List pros and cons please.

It wouldn't really affect the regular league any more or any less.  It'd be kind of nice for me; I'd consider playing a Goblin team from time to time for laughs, but wouldn't ever play them in the regular league, for instance.  This gives me, and others, that opportunity, but doesn't exclude us from having another, more serious team, in the matchmaking league as well.  Plus, it allows us to test various team builds that we might like to bring into the regular season, but aren't completely committed to.

I don't see any reason to limit the number of teams people can have for this really.

Yeah, while you can potentially get teams from this league into the main leagues (we'll see when the time actually comes that somebody wants to transfer), I think this league should first and foremost be a fun screw around place for us to play each other easily.  So, let us bring in as many teams as we want, I say.

The Steam group is invite-only last I checked.

But everyone is entitled to join as long as they are from here. I made it invite only cause we were getting spambots in. Kalle, send me an email/steam name so I can invite you.

I invited Kalle already, also ch34pV1agr4 and p3n15pi||s who both look like fine additions to our Bloodbowling community.

I would to like multiple teams - I've applied with a sliughtly different version of my normal team to practice with, but I also want to try a halfling or ogre team.

Ok I applied a second team myself. Feels safe and cool to have more freedom and forget about the silly public Leagues.

Anyway, can't wait to try my Dwarf Deathroller, wheeeee.....

Well Ruvaldt and I had another game with a reverse scoreline this time. The Assassin was useless this time around, apart from one stab on the ball carrier, and it was me who ended the game with half the team off the pitch. This even though Ruvaldt had fewer Chaos Warriors and half a team with loner. Just goes to show how much nuffle can dictate results.

The bum did give my 5 agi Witch Elf a niggling injury, but I guess if that's the worst you take from a beating you've got to be happy with it.

So far one of Ruvaldt or I have played in all the matches in this feeder league. C'mon guys, stop making us look like lazy bums!

I was going to play Ruvaldt but my internet connection decided that was an opportune moment to stop working.

So, how do we play a game against each other in league?  Only two ways I've done it before are either hitting the matchmaking button in the public league, or hitting play in our private league with a game already scheduled.  I'm willing to play now if anybody wants to.

Click your team in the league, it will then list anyone else in the league who is online. Then highlight them and click challenge.

Ah, got it.  Nobody is in league then, heh.

I look forward to many more like them, Lamaros.  Millard Fillmore picked up Mighty Blow in anticipation of meeting your assassin again on the pitch...

To everyone in the matchmaking league: if I am online it probably means that I am looking for a match to play so just send me a message and we'll work something out.  I am a Blood Bowl addict, and I'd rather not play with the Auld World plebs any longer now that I have the opportunity to only play against f13ers.

Yeah tele kicked the snot out of me. Another dead, this time a blitzer. I think I might give you bashy teams a miss for a bit.

What, AFTER I killed your runner? lol, bad luck man.

Yep. And I had to use the apoth, and copped another juggling injury among the 5-6 he inflicted. You bastards! Don't even have money for my first refill let alone replacement players.

I had to learn this the hard way, but fyi, when they say "oh Dark Elves can play a bashing game when they need to" ... they are full of shit. They can't. Don't manmark people, seriously. It'a a recipe for pain.

I  got the death dodging away...

Who knew no rerolls would be so dangerous? Hehe...

I want to do some scrims, but I'm all sucked into F:NV. Setting aside enough time for a BB game is a bit tough, I usually game in smaller chunks. Kind of the same reason I don't play mmo.

Yeah Sky I have the same problem and that's why I play way less Blood Bowl than I'd love to do.
Make a dummy team anyway though, it's funny to have it in the first place, and you can still have a random game every now and then, or not, and it's still cool.

Yeah, I actually got a death on one of his Witch Elves as well, but he saved it with an Apoth.  Bloody game.

I don't think the app for the Glorious Bashtards went through. I'd like to mess with another race, but I need to learn what I'm doing first hah.

Impulse has BB LE at 75% off this weekend for those interested in joining now.

I just played my first game against Ruvaldt. 350k buys a lot of inducements. For a starting High Elf team Eldril Sidewinder has to be the best use of 200k I've ever seen. He almost singlehandedly won the game for me.

I've never seen a star player make such a bit impact.  I knew that the second half wouldn't be pretty because I didn't injure enough of his players in the first half, but I didn't expect that damned elf/vampire/demi-god to catch every ball sent his way, score two touchdowns, and cure cancer while running into the endzone.  I think Richard Nixon is still recovering from his hypnotic gaze, damned hippie elf.

Also, William Howard Taft really needs to start pulling his weight on my team or I'm forgetting about minotaurs.  Seriously, I rolled five "both down" or "attacker down" in a row and thus had two turnovers due to that out of shape bovine.

:awesome_for_real:

(Yes, I totally read these threads because I enjoy hearing about it. I don't think I'd actually like playing it though. :P)

I feel unfulfilled now that my game with Ingmar for the league pre-maturely ended.  Somebody hop on to the feeder league and play me!

Kenosh Maroons (Goblins of proudft) is victorious over Go Forth By Day (Khemri of Ingmar).

I have uploaded the replay because it is COMEDY GOLD.   :drill:

I'm glad that my attempts at presidential humor are appreciated.

Also, you could always buy the game just to watch our replays!  Trust me, they're pretty comical without commentary as well.

And Goblins beating Khemri?  I'm watching that one tomorrow, for sure.

Maybe next time it goes on sale I'll pick it up! I have watched it over Ingmar's shoulder a few times. I watched him get punched off the internet tonight, in fact!

It's on sale right now. (http://www.impulsedriven.com/bbowllegend)

Yeah, I don't buy stuff on Impulse (although that is a good name for such a service!), I tend to stick to Steam because I am lazy and like it all in one place. I'm sure it'll go on sale there one of these days too. :P

I'm an excuse machine!  :drillf:

For $10 you can't afford not to buy it.

Plus, it makes a great Valentine's Day gift!   :drillf:

Made a new team in the league. Tele killed another of my Elves.

Wake up Falc!

3-0 Amazons over Ice Cream Emperor's Dark Elves...hopefully an omen for my league match vs IanC!

He stopped me getting a skill for a blitzer, but a catcher got block, so now I have 5 Blodges.

Reading through some past replies does being online and in the league highlight who is currently in game or would I be better off adding the f13 steam group people list to my steam friends and seeing if anyone is on and fancies a game when I get some free time to play?

Steam is the way to go. Mostly, because you don't want to keep staring at your Blood Bowl client to see if any possible player ever comes online. While with Steam, you get a notice when your friends log in, or you can message them even if they are not in the game, which is super helpful.

So yes, mass add the whole BB group as friends. It is definitely the way to go.

Or just join the F13 Bloodbowlers group, and look at who is online there.

But not before your assassin killed Jonathan Sanchez!

All your teams are belong to the League now.

There was carnage galore in that Khemri-Goblin game, for sure. My next game is going to be great, half my team is out.  :awesome_for_real:

In with a noob pro elf team. Maybe I'll finally get a feel for how the passing game works now. Maybe.

I hope they fix these crash issues soon; I just crashed from an injury again during a match with Megrim.  His wizard was so powerful that it broke Blood Bowl.  Sadly, as a result of my crash Chester A. Arthur was villainously assassinated.  So far Rutherford B. Hayes and Chester A. Arthur have met untimely demises, and for those keeping score their terms were only separated by six months.  It's a bad time to be a late-19th century ex-president.

Franklin Pierce, my ball-carrier, continues to thrive and picked up +1 STR after a win rematch with Megrim.   :grin:

I joined with a Lizard team.

So happy I got my game done early this playday.

Applied with a bunch of teams including Norse to see why you and Ramas love them so much

Can't wait for some f13 matchmaking! :awesome_for_real:

Yay!  More teams for me to nag into playing against the Presidents!

Another game, another Dark Elf dead. This time just a merc, thankfully.

Llyse joined with 8 teams (at the same time). What's wrong with this nice guy?  :awesome_for_real:

Universal block is a beautiful thing, even if you have to take lessened armor for it.

Did you let them in? We tried to play a game before and he said they weren't in the league yet. :(

Oh man, I am sorry. It was 5am I think and I wasn't really making sense. I'll do it in 3 hours.

Or you could just play dwarves.  :grin:

Another game with the dark elves, another dead player. This time my +agi Witch Elf. Double 1s on a dodge, followed by the apothecary saying "nah, you're too dead to do anything".

Alas.

The Presidents strike again!  When will their bloodlust be slaked?!

Llyse applied with three teams that were not brand new and had played other games in other Leagues, some even had level ups. Bad Llyse, bad! I rejected those applications, of course.

My bad, selected the wrong teams.

Recreated and applied with an Ogre and Khemri team for more bashing fun :D

3 Blodging Chaos Warriors? really? Really?  :ye_gods:

I smell a new Chaos Team in Season #4 with a fucking amazing 1250TV starting lineup here...

That is actually my plan as well. But rolling 3 doubles out of 4 chaos warriors ? They are going to be the first do die.  :grin:

Yah it's cool, everyone can just make more Chaos teams to kill the players on the other Chaos teams so that no Chaos teams take over the league. Problem solved!

Sounds like... mass chaos.

Helm, did you join the feeder League already? I can't remember if I got your applications yet.

I got pretty lucky on the three blodges though two of them are MA4 due to hip injuries.  They're all probably getting guard and becoming spectacularly annoying soon.

Nixon got a +1 AGI, and my main ball carrier is +1 STR also.  Taft, my minotaur, got block on his first skill-up as well.  I really am thinking of trying to get them in under the cap, but I don't know.  They sure are fun to play.

It will be impossible to get them under the cap without losing most of them. Just
Your mino pushes up to it, let alone with block. And +str too... You can't really take any more than two skilled players unless you drop rerolls or something.

Block + dodge on 3 CWs = 150k right there. Add another 90k for the +1 str and +1 agi, and 30k for block on a minotaur and you're at 1270 even if nobody else on the team has anything and these are your exact starting players.

Yeah, I've been doing the math a bit here and there.  If I got rid of the +1 AGI Nixon, which I could afford, I could manage it.  It would suck especially though because he is level 2, and so I can build his entire skillset around that +AGI.  I'd have to also get rid of Millard Fillmore, however, who is a stone cold killer with block, MB and claws.  There's no easy way to make the cuts, but if I just wanted to save my blodgey CWs, my ball-handler, and my mino I think I could get in.

Another option is to ditch the mino completely, and pick up a level 1 beastman to take that 11th slot.  That buys me a good bit of room to slip in other players I think are more useful.  Losing a mino with block sucks, but he's only level 2 and getting rid of him makes a lot of room without ruining the team.

I will create a team for the league after I woke up. Good night.  :awesome_for_real:

I wonder why they inflate the TV numbers so much. Why not have the numbers in Ingmar's post be 15, 9, 3 and 127? :)

I think it's part of the roleplaying/lore aspect of the board game. I mean, you are talking about building and managing a team, hiring players and paying salaries. It wouldn't sound that cool or realistic if you paid "5" for a player or you know "16" for a deathroller.

Yeah, basically that's why. In lore terms 10 is actually 10,000 gold or whatever.

In all this chaos excitement - I bring stats courtesy of BBManager that other coaches may want to consider in a chaos heavy league...

51% Lizardmen
51% Undead
49% Wood Elf
48% Amazon
47% Necromantic
45% Norse
45% Skaven
44% Dark ELf
41% Dwarf
39% Orc
38% High Elf
34% Ogre
33% Khemri
33% Nurgle
32% Human
28% Halfling
22% Goblin
22% Vampire

And what are these stats depicting?

Probably win rate vs chaos across all reported BBM matches.

Also while that may make you think "hey chaos is overpowered, only 2 teams beat them better than 50%!" remember that a fairly high % of games are ties in BB, so something like a 45% win rate is actually reasonably strong.

Those stats are kind of meaningless as they don't really account for tv in any way.

And here I thought they were meaningless because they were not accompanied by any context or explanation.

Played my second game with the Blood Buckets Chaos team against Lamaros and lost 2-0. I might have been able to win but apparently not one goddamn beastman on my team can pick up a ball. I missed every fucking pick up roll I tried and every fucking pass as well. There were a couple of moves I made that I regretted the instant I made them. Good news is my minotaur has leveled and is an absolute beast at putting motherfuckers in the dirt. Bad news is no one else seems able to pick up any SPP whatsoever. 3 Chaos Warriors are sitting on 0 SPP after two matches and numerous blocks.

Can we get another admin for different timezones? I know you're up most of the day falc but sometimes the urge to play a new team cannot be sated!:)

But I'm a control freak! I have issues!

So I played my first game in the f13 MatchMaking League last night vs IceCream...

Out of the 7/8 teams I had I got... Katzkinsky's Lancers - my Human superstars!

First half went well, with Sean the Blitzer causing two casualties and Katze scoring a defensive TD after making some elf like dodges. The Lizard team was down to 3 Saurus with 1 badly hurt and the other enjoying time with Mr Sandman.

2nd half the Lancers received and looked like to score easily with except Sean receiving a death blow from casual block from 1 of the last Saurus... Great, my star blitzer with 4 spp dies.  :heartbreak:

It's 2-0 now with Lizards back to 4 Saurus but with an early double skulls it's a mad scramble on the right wing for the ball and some more stunty skinks failing dodges results in a 3-0 win for the Lancers.

And of course Sean the Dead Blitzer gets MVP, so no 5 spp for a 3-0 win.   :heartbreak:

And another star team for Season #4 is born!  :awesome_for_real:

Humans are surprisingly hard to get a handle on how to use well.

You really need to play them as a counter-team.

My best successes with them has been to skill all linemen into Wrestle/Fend/Dirty Player; two blitzers as all out killers (MB/Tackle/Piling On), and two as safeties(Tackle/Shadowing/Guard).

Their catchers really need S 3, but you can use them to run the ball (Blodge) or as defensive markers (with Diving Tackle and Wrestle).

All in all, I think humans are very average, but get REALLY good with a few Agility and Strength skillups, and because of their averageness can start making super-specialized players.

They also look the best!

Well so far my Lizardmen team has yet to win a game -- the latest a nail-biting, last-turn draw with AndyDavo's Dark Elf team -- but they sure can kill the crap out of opposition players. Star saurus Uldalashi is rarely satisfied with simply injuring the people he knocks down -- 2 out of his 3 inflicted casualties have been straight-up Deads, making him the most dangerous player in the league.

Throw in two more murderous sauruses and the deadliest Skink this side of the Rio Grande, and the Warriors of the Sun are averaging 1.25 dead opposition players per game. In fact, out of the 6 total casualties inflicted by this team, 5 of them have been deaths.

Now if only they could score touchdowns.

In other news -- and because I accidentally double-posted -- I'd like to recommend everyone download the Community Content Pack (http://www.cyanide-studio.com/forumBB/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=27481) over at the Cyanide forums, so they can see how colourful my sauruses are. There's also quite a few new skins for Skaven -- albino rats! -- and presumably other teams, though I haven't created many other new teams since installing it.

Holy shit. This pack is cool. I had no idea. IceCream, make a thread for is, with instructions, known issues, content list and all, please. It deserves visibility.

Sure, I'll post a thread. I hadn't heard of it either until some lizardman coach I was playing wouldn't shut up about his colour-coded sauruses.

D/Ling it now.  Looks pretty badass, though I think they went a bit overboard with the tattoos on the Witch Elf.

What the hell is happening here? I won two matches, one with the Drama Queers last night vs MA, and one with the Bishoujo All Stars today vs Llyse. They are visible in the team's log, but they don't show up in the League rankings. Not that I care, I still get XP and money, but it takes away from the fun and I can't fathom why is that happening. Any idea? Are your team records showing correctly in the League Ranking?

Oh god, will somebody who's in the feeder league play me?  I keep asking, but nobody is available, so I keep having to play in public leagues for my fix.  And that sucks ass.  I'm going to be available for several more hours yet.

Teleku I've been sitting on my ass for games all night. I guess you asked everyone but me  :awesome_for_real:

Well, Lamaros was a good sport and played me right after I posted.  But I actually didn't ask you because I saw it was almost 5 AM your time, and figured you probably wouldn't be wanting to play a game.  I should have known better.    :awesome_for_real:

I'll ask in the future!

Ha! The 5am rule doesn't apply on fridays and saturdays. I just finished another bloodbath against Llyse  :awesome_for_real:

Yeah definitely ask me as well in the future

My murderous Lizardmen team recorded it's first victory in a vengeance-fueled smashing of Llyse's humans. Sadly their consecutive-death streak was interrupted, though much blood was nonetheless spilled.

The game took a turn for the absurd when the second half kick-off landed directly in the hand of Kroqatl, my newly-purchased Kroxigor, who was standing dead center on the LoS. Having made the catch, Kroqatl proceeded to stare at this strange object in his hand...

Three turns, two rerolls, and four 1s later, he was still standing in the exact same place, evidently mesmerized by the austere beauty of the blood bowl ball.

Thankfully he finally got moving the next turn, and would not be distracted even by some impressive pratfalls and tumbling runs from the human team (who were not exactly having the best game, dice-wise.) Three turns after he finally began moving, he scored the first of what promises to be hundreds of touchdowns. Along with his two CAS and the first justly-rewarded MVP in modern memory, Kroqatl managed to earn more SPP in his first game than my Necromantic league team has earned in their entire season. He then rolled +agi, but I was forced to confront cold hard reality and take a useful skill instead.

Who is bento808? I have an application in from this person, but I am not gonna accept it without knowing who s/he is.

He's Japanese food combined with a drum machine, obviously.

Ah ok, then he's legit.

After thinking about this for a while I'm pretty sure there's no real good reason for us to care about where a team played before joining this league. The TV cap to go to the Real League should pretty much cover any farming shenanigans people could pull.

Other folks in the league should be given fair chance to limit that sort of growth. Those of us that started in the formal league had to build the hard way.

Disagree. I think the 1250 limit is appropriate.

I think Ingmar is saying we should let in our teams from the Public leagues, as we'd have to trim them to 1250 TV if we wanted to play with the f13 League anyhow.

And I agree.

I think you misunderstand me, by "this league" I mean the feeder league. I'm not asking for a change to which teams can jump to the real league, just that I don't see any good reason to keep teams that have been played in the public league or random pickup games out of the feeder league. The TV limit will protect the real league from any crazy farmed up teams or whatever. Like those other teams Llyse has, or that team that Iain played one practice game with, or whatever.

Because then its more complicated to hold the "no league but the Feeder League" rule for teams joining the real league.

Eh, there's always "view match record". Doesn't take long to check. Still, I guess you're going to annoy people if you let me bring in my leveled Goblin team to the feeder one and I go around killing people who wanted to take their team to the f13 league.

That's actually a pretty good reason for accepting your team, IMO.

New rule: outsiders are allowed into the feeder league on the condition that they are goblins or ogres?  :drill:

And halflings!

Seriously even though my ogre team with block that played 4 games would love to join I think  it's too much hassle for Falc to screen for tv, farming etc.

I like the idea of an enclosed environement. Call it roleplaying, call it "aesthetics", I just like the idea that these virtual Players and Teams belong to this f13 world and nothing else.

That said, I don't think it's such a big deal to create a new team with the (almost same name of your Public League favourite ones and have them join the Feeder at 1000 TV. Whole  point of the Feeder League is to have fun while starting from the same point as everyone else, and eventually transfer to the Main. The ranking and hall of fame are not so significant, but I like the idea that they will eventually reflect everyone's effort in this random pool.

So yeah, if you don't like the other "flavour" reasons, I am against non-new teams as they would devalue the global Rankings and Hall of Fame.

After six games my Snooty Royals are at the limit of what I can reasonably trim down to 1250TV. If I play more games I risk losing players to injuries that I can't afford to replace. Seven L2 players and an eleven man roster and I can just hit the target. Being forced to start with no money means it'll be a while before I can afford replacements again but that's a fair tradeoff and I do have an apothecary so that helps.

Just played Haemish; noob Chaos vs noob Lizards so lots of blocks without Block skill hilarity. I had a 4 Saurus, no Kroxigor team and he had a fairly standard Minotaur and 4 CW team. The Block dice were mostly on his side and the armour dice were definitely in his favour too, he had full command of the pitch and outnumbered me after the first drive. There were several turns where literally all I could do was stand my guys up and press the end turn button. Despite that I managed to defend my endzone and score a couple of breakout touchdowns to sneak a 2-0 win. It would have been 3-0 but for an unlucky bounce on the last turn that put the ball into the hands of a Skink who had already finished his move - the plan was that the blitzing Skink would pick up the loose ball and run it in.

The match is on BBManager if anyone is interested. It's a fairly good demonstration of some common errors that are worth explaining. It's easy to get all of your players sucked into the blocks, especially if you are a reasonably bashy team or a team that doesn't do well at a passing game. It's hard to win if your opponent has a full field so the natural reaction is to try and thin his ranks a bit. In this game though, the Chaos team had more than enough blocking power against my Lizards without having to tie up all of their players. Controlling the pitch and being able to dump the opposition on the floor at will means nothing if you can't score or prevent scores. A single Beastman as a defensive back, prowling the centre of the backfield would have shut down both of my scoring runs. Likewise give yourself opportunities to win. If there are two turns to go then make sure you have multiple players who are within one turn's movement of the endzone, then concentrate on getting the ball to them. The last couple of games I've played I've managed to win despite the opponent having far more ownership of the ball than me and despite my team being too broken to seriously stop a decent attempt to score. Even if your team can't pass very well, having a couple of free receivers opens up options that you didn't have before and means your opponent has to pull players back to deal with them.

IainC's completely right about that game. I mostly dominated the blocking but couldn't get shit going for an attack. The closest I got was too close to halftime and I managed to score nothing. Leaving a safety guy in the back, especially against things with the speed of skinks is a good idea.

Nobody will play me...



\/\/\/\/\/ Yeah that no joke sucked.

You were dying of a fever when I asked   :oh_i_see:

Well, I'm staying up late tonight since I have the day off tomorrow (Thank you Abraham Lincoln for winning the civil war and emancipating the slaves.  It gives me a day off!).  So anybody interested in a game message me.  I might be dragged of for more League of Legends with friends though, so do it while supplies last.   :awesome_for_real:

I just applied to join the league, though I made a mistake and applied with two teams.  I'd like my skaven team, I Smells a Rat, to be entered instead of the necro one.

Ginaz, you can join with as many teams you like. I'll approve both.

Thanks.

1-0 win for Lizards over Bann's Orks. Was a pretty bashy match, and Orks almost scored towards the end of the first half, but a saurus ran down the blitzer and put him in the KO box.

Second half had a scare for the scaled ones as a failed pick up allowed the orks to get dangerously close to the ball in the backfield. However, the slimeys recovered and ground the ball up the pitch for a late score.

Also, 1 dead lineork.  :grin:

someone play me

If anyone's looking for  a match tonight, let me know.  I'll be online until about midnight North American Mountain standard time.  I'm anxious to play my new skaven team against a human opponent.

I played Ginaz in the end and it was amusing.

He bashed me up first half (never mind that I was Nurgle) and scored, then I managed to get him down to one player on the pitch in the second and get the tie.

All KOs however. He managed to hurt two of my rotters (niggling and -mv) and also hurt a couple of his on failed dodges, but I didn't get a single casualty though I broke armor 24 times.

Nurgle can be fun, but I don't see the value in picking them over Chaos really. Slower and more expensive doesn't really get outdone by regen and the ability to disrupt a passing game. Especially when most passing teams can dodge for fun. You don't get to play with mutations as much as you pretty much have to skill your Prestigors to blitz and ball handle and the Warriors to roadblock. I remain underwhelmed.

That was the first time I played as skaven vs. a human opponent.  Much different than playing as undead.  I got bashed up pretty good at the end, but with only one player left on the field I still managed to get a blitz in on one of his last turns.  If I had of been able to knock the ball out it would have probably stayed 1-0.  My thrower  ended up with -1 AV and two of my players are out for the next match but overall it was a fun game and showed me the strengths, and weaknesses, of a skaven team.

Looking again for a match tonight or for sometime this weekend.  If I'm online send me a message.  Same time zone as my post above.

Drunk but will play you if I go home alone!

You can't dodge if a Beast of Nurgle is tentacling you.  :grin: And you don't just disrupt passing. You disrupt handoffs. This means that whoever has the ball is most likely stuck with it. And Nurgle Warriors make the best damn roadblocks in the game. When an opposing team blitz fails because they rolled a 1 on their Foul Appearance roll you have to smile.

I really, really like the Nurgle team, warts and all. If I could get six beastmen on the roster I'd be ecstatic as that is the main weakness of the team, but you make do with what you have.

If anyone is looking for a feeder league game today, hit me up.

Thanks for the game hoax, sorry about your dice. I know that can be frustrating.

Applied with a new team.

I've been meaning to try an all-beast Chaos team for a while now as it's one of the few themed teams you can make that is actually viable. The Militant Vegans are ready to punch all you meat-eaters in the face.

Given Falc is going overseas soon, and that he is out of the finals and in RIFT instead ( :awesome_for_real:) can we have someone else around to add teams to the feeder league and like? I expect a few people will want to fool around with some other teams before the next season.

(Also, verify league results Falc! I want to fail to roll doubles again...)

I am busily making like 30 more teams to keep me busy.  :why_so_serious:

I need to actually start playing my teams to stay somewhat active during the playoffs!

Looking for game, PST on Steam.  :grin:

i'll be looking for a bunch of games now, any1 free now or over the weekend?

Minor necro.  I'm looking to get some games in this weekend.  Hit me up on Steam if anyone is interested.  Thanks.

Up for a game now  :awesome_for_real:

Poke me on Steam if I'm not busy with something.

Could someone approve the teams that I have applied to the feeder league.  Thanks.

Played a couple of matchs last night with Strazos and Lamaros with my lizardman team.  Strazos' goblin team was...interesting to play against.  So many weird player types, and I think their cheerleaders were standing on squigs. :awesome_for_real:  That ended up being a 1-1 draw I probably should have won that one but I made some stupid mistakes and he used the special features of the goblin team well (like throwing a goblin right onto my ball carrier and forcing a fumble close to his goal line).  I might try a goblin team one day just for pure comedy.  I got a kind of a frustrating 1-0 win against Lamaros' Vampire team, mostly due to my skinks inability to pick up the damn ball with their stone hands.  Probably could have scored 2 or 3 if they could have just picked up the ball when I needed them to.  On the plus side, my Saurus' and Kroxigor curb stomped his vampires and thralls.  Once my big guys get some skills they're going to be pretty tough. 

After playing the lizardman team I think I'm going to be using them in S4 instead of my Undead team from S3.  MUCH more fun to play and I think I'll do better with them in S4 now that I have a good idea how to play them.

By goblins, I assume you mean Vampires?  :why_so_serious:

Just swapped my team with Lamaros'.

Edit: So I had 10 knockdowns to Ginaz's 9 (+4 tackles).

I broke armor twice, resulting in 2 stuns.

Ginaz broke armor 11 times for 1 KO and 4 CAS. Pretty funny, even if some of those were red skulls from me getting desperate.

Sorry, I forgot who was playing what.

That was my goblin team.  :grin:

I approved Proudft team. I have a Ninjastyle and a Tijet waiting in queue. I am not gonna let them in until I know who's the owner. Any idea?

Upfor a friendly Blood bowl Feeder league match  :awesome_for_real:

Feeder match anyone?  :pedobear:

Need a theme for a new Chaos team for feeder league matches.  :awesome_for_real:

Mispronounce "chaos" and name all your guys after cattle.

Neat. :D

Call all your Beastmen after the ponies in My Little Pony:Friendship is magic.

I already have a pony-themed Norse team, no stealin'! Pranceglitter Hoofwind will be oh so disappointed in you.

Instead, you should name your players after common household appliances.

Got a nice idea, but no time to create the team yet.  :grin:

I applied with a team. The Fantasticks!

The Soul Sucking Sabbat have applied to feed spp to all who enjoy killing thralls.

Quick question (to which the answer will probably be no): am I able to bring my season 3 team into the feeder league and then use it if/when theres a season 5?

No. Feeders can be eligible for Main. But Main can only get frozen, can't join anything. And you can only join Feeder if have zero matches played anywhere (100% New Team).

Speaking of feeders, approve my poor elves! They long to mince!

Falc I have applied to the feeder league with a woodelf team called Aery Faery's if you can approve it when you have the time please. Maybe then I can say yes to the random game requests that sometimes head my way :)

I have a wood elf team now in the league (Aery Faery's) so if anyone wants a match hit me up on steam and I'll hopefully oblige.

Approvedes! (It's Itanglish of some sort)

Ils sont approuvé! (If you want to go French-style for some reason)

Speaking of which, totally off-topic, but any idea why BBM and some other things related to Bloowbowl seem to have such strong French influences?

France and Germany have a huge huge huge boardgaming tradition. That would be the only explanation, I think.

You know, I'm realizing how punitive this is on little guy teams. The 11 man limit is basically impossible to recover from if I take my goblins next season, as I'm anticipating doing. I also think TV takes care of that issue nicely.

Can I put in that we reconsider the 11 person limit on main league eligibility?

I think the 11 person thing is a floor, not an exact thing.

Yeah, I reread. I thought it was a ceiling, too. Disregard.

I need to get playing some feeder games. Last couple nights I played some campaign (I think, the single player is odd) games with my SP Bashers team. Got two blitzers with Mighty Blow (one with tackle and a hate for elves after a BH) and one is now a Blodger. But it's so pointless, I would LOVE to have a blodging blitzer in the f13 league!

I have a blodging MB Beserker in my SP campaign... :grin:

Try to hit me up whenever for Feeder games...I'll try to accommodate if I'm not too busy.

The blodger just rolled doubles again and is now an orc blitzer with blodge and side step! And a black orc also nabbed jump up. Whee, damn single player.

Also, I'm still going with my theory that single player cheats dice. I hardly ever roll double skulls and I've been pounding the crap out of the other teams, KO/injury-wise. 4 level-ups playing a game against chaos with my orcs, all from bashing except my blodgy blitzer (a couple TDs and some bashing).

Maybe it depends on difficulty level settings?

Double skulls are pretty rare (3%). The AI is just terrible -- which doesn't affect your rolls directly of course, but does mean that you basically get two turns for every one AI turn in most cases, because it will turn over so frequently and make such bizarre choices (like not rerolling things it should.)

I went on a SP streak awhile back and got a Skaven team up to 2800+ TV. Since it adjusts your opponents' TV based on your own, I get to see the wonder of 6-8 reroll AI teams that don't even spend a reroll to avoid a 1d block turnover result. Even when they have 5 rerolls and it's turn 14.

Of course now I am used to playing the game at double speed, so all the animations in regular multiplayer games seem reaaalllly sllloowwww.

The good thing about the single player is that it shows you what you can turn your team into, though it will be a lot slower going since the teams that a bashy player will get SPP off when managed by a human are a lot less likely to give you the opportunity to beat them into a bloody pulp hence earning the SPP to level your bashy players.

Really not looking forward to the last few matches in my group since only Strazos is going to play to my own teams strengths and his team is full of skills so turnover chances for me are really high and I can't see the Elf teams just bending over and letting me sock it too 'em either, roll on season 8, might be able to deal with all comers by then :)

If anyone is up for a game in the next 30-45 mions please lemme know.  I am mildly intoxicated and well probably not play up to my full potential :awesome_for_real:

I'd be up for a quick one. edit - guess I was too late!

If anyone wants to bash on some wood elves within the next 3 hours hit me up on steam for a match.

Played my first feeder game with my necro team vs ruvaldt's lizards. Won 2-1 in a bloody, bloody match. Whittled him down and without a bench there wasn't much he could do as I turtled at his goal line (yay orc training). My first non-orc game, too.

Scored the first goal with a wolf...who got killed in the last turn. The other wolf had the ball and it was an easy score, I set up the single marking skink with a bunch of TZs and blitzed with Frankenshteen...3 dice...skull/skull/both down (no reroll). So no score as it was my last turn, and had I scored that wolf would've gotten 3spp and the other wolf wouldn't have been in prime bashing zone between Krox and a saurus. Really awful dice. In fact, early in the game I had set Frank up for another 3-dice block and got the same skull/skull/both down. That first time I had a reroll...FOR THE SAME RESULT SKULL/SKULL/BOTH DOWN.

That's right, gentle reader. I had 3 3-dice block rolls in that game, and they were all skull/skull/both down (no block on either player).

MVP went to a zombie, no level-ups and the wolf that would've leveled died in the last turn. Not enough cash to replace him and only 2 rerolls anyway. Thinking of rolling another team, heh.

It was a pyrrhic victory for you if ever there was one. 

My crappy armor rolls and lack of a bench doomed me, and my being down one saurus didn't help either.  In the end, however, my Krox leveled, and they are notoriously slow levelers, so I consider it a pretty good loss.

I had tons of fun.  Hopefully we can do it again.

Jobs done for the day so if anyone wants some feeder games hit me up on steam.

Should have some time this evening for feeder game (EDT, UTC-4).

Just applied with a Khemri team named Howls and Bones.

Can I get my dwarf and wood elf teams approved?

Silly, you're supposed to nag in the ATTENTION FALCONEER thread!

Meant to post a quick apology here to whomever steam pm'd me for a game last weekend. I was in the middle of a pretty dismal conversation with my fiancee about her mom's health.

Also, I'm now on an ITALIAN HOLIDAY (ie playing Rift), so probably not a bunch of feeders for a month.  :why_so_serious:

If you see me on Steam at night, hit me up for a Feeder league game. I have a Necro and a Skaven team that I'm leveling up for possible inclusion into next season's F13 league - or I may stick with my 1220 Chaos team. We'll see what kind of level ups I can get.

 :grin:

Hilarity is me and Catfud as Goblins versus Ogres. The carnage was great.

I would love a feeder game if anyone is about. Hit me up on steam.

Just got owned by Catfud's Skaven 4-1. He scored two before half time from the kind of bullshit plays that Skaven do so well and then two more early in the second half to equally outrageous manoeuvres. For the final drive with two turns left, he kicked the ball out of bounds so I gave it to a Saurus just behind the LoS, punched a hole in the line and ran it through to score a consolation TD in my last turn.

I did a few things wrong, I'm still bad at forming cages and I tend to try and play my Lizards as if the Skinks are Elves and the Sauri are Dwarfs but playing different matches which is a problem. Llyse got away with some hugely jammy plays and was also lucky with his armour rolls - I had trouble dropping his players at all and when I did, they largely just bounced right back up. No injuries at all on either side despite a deliberate campaign of genocide against Gutter Runners.

Match is uploaded to BBManager if anyone is curious.

I was also playing a war of skink genocide with no results but the scoreline just shows how quickly skaven can score with a few bad rolls  :awesome_for_real:

If you don't get armor breaks against a Skaven team and start whittling him down early, a half-braindead opponent can slice you to pieces.

Half-brained sounds about right for Llyse.

(Is it too early to start playoff trash-talking?)

It's never too early for trash talk  :awesome_for_real:

Just make sure you kill off some contenders before we meet again  :oh_i_see:

Just played my first game with the giirls from My Little Pony Elves vs some Orcs by Bann.

3-0, but 2 dead linesmen (Dinky Hooves and Fluttershy) and 2 more out next game. I got a Strong Arm on a thrower though, and was able to buy a second thrower too.

These elves are REALLY weak though.

Which sort of elves?

Pro Elves, or Amazons without the dodge as they are otherwise known. I pulled some dodgy elfy crap, and the score was actually 3-1 (I forgot an orc Blitzer who got an early second half Touchdown. I'm glad I bought 2 Babees, I had about 8 KO's in the game, and they came back every time. Probably should have got an apoc instead of an extra reroll though.

They'll grow up and be cool one day, rite?  :why_so_serious:

I keep thinking about making one myself for the f13 league, but who knows.

It's a lot easier to add dodge than it is to add an agility point. Pro elf catchers are big fat cheaters.

THE BLUE STEEL, my little pro elf team, has applied to the feeder league. <3

The Memerauders challenge THE BLUE STEEL to a walk off!

Anyone up for a match while I wait for Reborne to wake up? Hit me up on Steam.

If any feeder teams want to get smashed to bits by my Khemri, bug me on Steam.  :grin:

The Memerauders are on a five game winning streak.  Can they ever be stopped?!

I just HAD to upload that to BBM and look at the stats.  I was 0/3 in GFIs, 1/3 in pickups (about right for Khemri I suppose... though it's telling that I only attempted to pick the ball up 3 times), and 0/2 on regen rolls.  I was also nabbed for fouling twice, including one failed bribe (rolled 1/1 then 1).  In terms of blocking, I only had a 46% success rate, even though almost all of my blocks were 2d.  NOT my best effort.

Still no bodies at level 2 either... the Khemri demand more blood!

The Bishoujo All Stars are 3 - 0 - 0 after today's win on Ice Cream Emperor. Too bad my best player, a catcher level 3, died in the process after managing to score a TD AND getting the MVP. So, one dead good catcher, 8 SPP down the drain, and a useless win. Weeee....

If anyone is looking for a match tonight, I'll be on for the next few hours.  I'd like to give me dwarf team a whirl.

I wish there was way to advertise on Steam - I WANT A MATCH, MESSAGE ME.

If anyone interested in a match for the next 2 days, see me on steam. I need more practice with my Pro Elves. Easy punching bags I assure you! No dodgying.

If you see me on Steam, let me know if you want a match.  I'm in the mood to play my necro and dwarf teams.

It was my Pro Elves for Hoes vs Ezrat's Elves for rouge rogues.

Score ended 5-1. I had to fire Pinky Pie after she lost 1 AG, 2 players are out for the next game, i only got 30K (meaning I still can't afford an apoc), but I did get dodge on a catcher and a blitzer.

And I won. Despite the other team outskilling me, and I started with 3 loners, and ended with 3 elves off the pitch, I was able keep grabbing the ball from the other side using my catcher - I love nerves of steel! A well placed Lighting bolt stopped one TD, and I BH his star catcher half way through.

I need to work on my defense! To be fair, most of my TV advantage was due to my level 4 Catcher who got Badly Hurt early on (still my fault for not healing him though), and with my other Catcher out on injuries from last game I didn't have a lot to work with. Very well-played game by Comstar though.

Who would have thought elves could be so bashy?  Comstars Pro elves KO'd all but 2 of my dudes for a 2-1 win.  I was doing pretty well (leading 1-0 at one point) until Nuffle proceeded to kick me in the nads.  On the plus side, my werewolf and one of my flesh golems leveled and now have block.

I played a game of my pro elves for ginaz's necro team. With 4 loner linesmen, he was able to get some bloodwiser babes despite having a 200 Tl advantage.

It did him no good. 2-1 Elves over Necros. The Necro's ended the game with nothing but a zombie and a golem on the pitch. 3/4's of his team was KO'ed. I took a niggling injury to a catcher. I skilled up both a catcher AND a blitzer with +1AG, and the injured catcher took wrestle (I'm going to make him a dedicated ball attacker). He skilled up a werewolf and a golemm

Nuffle was truly a bitch to the Necro's this game. After the 2nd half where he had 3 players off the bitch, and the score was 1-1, I was pretty confident. By the end of turn 12 he had less than than 6 players on the pitch and I spent the next 4 turns trying to get another injury for my blitzer to level. I just got lots of KO's instead.

Your level up rolls have been pretty damned impressive.  A blitzer and a catcher both with +AGI?  Awesome.

Pro Elves 1 to Ruvaldt's Lizards 1. First game I've ended with no players injured beyond badly! I rolled a double skill for a blitzer...and got dodge. Who knew that there are blitzer who DON'T get strength skills by default?! A Lizard Sursus did the same thing.

I'm just not very good playing vs lizards. The St 4 big guys provide too much cover to the stunty dodgy FAST little ones. I got a early touch to the ball and got a quick touchdown, and was able to stop the lizards equalling back in the first half, but I couldn't HURT any of the little guys, despite doing everything I could including fouls. I got 1 KO that was out for the match, but that more than equalled the badly hurt 5AG Blitzer who didn't do anything. My AG5 Catcher never got a chance to show off his high AG either - I really need to get him Leap.

Second half was me slowing the lizards down, but not enough to stop them getting into a scoring position by turn 14. Ruvaldt decided to play cautions, a feature of his gameplay, and went for the certain draw rather than a possible loss. With my ability to get 2 turn TD's, I can't say I blame him either.

Also anyone in Goonswarm should read my post in the games forums on goonfleet.com and signup for the Goonswarm Bloodbowl league.

Yeah, that's exactly why I stalled for a turn.

It was a good game, and an even match.  I almost had a TD in the first half which would've resulted in a different ending, but failing that easy pass was a heartbreaker.  I knew after that I'd have to go for the tie or risk giving you the ball too many more times.

I ended up in a tie with ICE's dark elves as well immediately afterward though it was 2 - 2.  I'm liking these lizards; of the ten games I've played with them I've only lost once.

Lizardmen are nice once you get them some skills, esp. with the Saurus.  Early on, though, they're can be very frustrating. :argh:

I played my 4th game with my Pro Elves vs IanC's Wood Elf team. 4-1 Pro Elves over Wood Elves. IanC ended up with 4 injuies and a KO, I had merc linesman off the pitch for fouling (who got the MVP dammit) and a thrower out for the next game. My Star Catcher got level 4, and now has Catch, Nerves of Steel, +1AG, Dodge and Leap - no defensive line can probably stop him. I also got max cash and now have 4 catchers. Pity my TV is now so high i can never use them in the main league.

I don't think IanC had played wood elves before - but after my usual quick 2 TD touchdown he spent a lot of time knocking my guys over - I ended the first half with 3 KO's and an injury, giving him a slight advantage, but I was able to hold him off from getting a TD in return. Vs Elves and Pro Elves with ST3 MV8 Catchers, you need to ALWAYS guard the ball carrier. Two of my TD's came about because a catcher ran up field and tagged and then hit the ball carrier with a 1D block (one vs a Wardancer who got badly injured in the process).

He didn't use the Wardancer Leap at all, and I think that's the key to them - the Wardancers are the best offensive blitzers in the game with it. His game ended with a failed pass from a Wardancer on the 2nd last turn, allowing me to run in an easy 4th TD I wouldn't have been able to do with anyone not elves.

5th game, this time vs Undead, who don't seem to be that popular these days for some reason. 3-2.  I'm now second in the league table behind the lizard team who I got a draw against. I just can't deal with Lizards.

I have a problem that despite getting lots of skills, Pro Elves have no way it seems to deal with big guys or high st teams. Only 2 Blitzers (though they are the best defensive blitzers in the game), no access to Strength skills means trying to break a cage that's been build very very hard. It didn't help that my Leaping AG catcher was KO'ed for 3/4s of the match. I suppose you end up making the catchers (Nerves of Steel is REALLY good) into sorta WarDancers.

Speaking personally, I don't care for undead much because they have to rely on their ghouls, who have no regen and no apothecary to save them.

I've never liked Undead teams.  Necromantic teams are much more fun and, I think, deep.

I'm looking for feeder games this week and I'm incredibly rusty so hit me up on steam.

It's certainly a weakness, but Dauntless is a general access skill, and certainly worth picking up on at least one linesman.

Not standing next to them works well for me, as Celer can attest.  :awesome_for_real:

I agree. I made an Undead team in the PUB leagues and played one game, didn't much like it at all. I made a Necro team in the feeder league and it's a much more interesting team.

I'll also be looking to play some feeder league games either tonight or Sunday. Trying to get that Necro and my Skaven team some TV.

Oh Skaven, you never fail to bring me the highest highs and the lowest lows.

I've gotten 3 games in the last two days with my Skaven team. First I played Celer in a true nailbiter, winning the game 2-1 on the very last turn with a fantastic play on my part. Manage to get a gutter runner to level and get block, to go along with my guard Rat Ogre. I have enough money to either buy an apothecary or a thrower, so I opt for the latter.

So naturally, I get a little overconfident against Ruvaldt's humans. My first turn, the thrower fails a pickup. Second turn, he gets the ball, is set up for a long pass downfield which he ALSO fails. About the 4th or 5th turn, tragedy strikes. Lil Cracker, guarding Rat Ogre, is killed, making me rue the choice of the thrower over the Rat Ogre. Another useless linerat died later in the match. The thrower managed ONE fucking throw the whole game. It was SO SO BAD. Realizing I would need 90k to get another Rat Ogre, I seriously thought of ditching the team.

But no, I persevered. Strazos and I just completed a match, he with his Pro Elves. I won it 3-0, had some good play as well as the luck of Strazos getting really shitty dice most of the game. By the 11th or 12th turn, it was clear the dice were just fucking with him for the hell of it. I did have one great ladder play to score a 1-turn touchdown from about 3 spaces outside my own endzone. I ended up with 70k winnings (only 20k more for the new Rat Ogre!) and getting a Gutter Runner to level 3, where he promptly got a +1 STR to go with wrestle and dodge. Fear Nightcrawler, motherfuckers.

If anyones looking for a game tonight, hit me up on Steam.

That's a GR worthy of fouling.  Get him Side Step or maybe Tackle or Strip Ball...he'll be a menace.

I can confirm that that GR is a pain in the ass with wrestle.  He was about the only one on Haemish's team that I didn't either KO or injure with my necro team.  On a brighter note, I won 3-1 and my werewolf is now lvl 3 with block and +1 str. :heart:

He spent the next game against Ginaz getting knocked on his ass, but he wasn't alone in that. I did get a new rat ogre and leveled another gutter runner, who also got wrestle.  :grin:

Applied the South Park Smackdown, my new Chaos team, to the Feeder League. Now I need approval and I'll play you goons in some games this weekend.

Available again tonight for another game or two.

After tonight's game, my necro team has reached the 1250 TV limit.  I was able to get another werewolf (to go along with my +5 str/block one) and my ghoul now has sure hands.  We'll see how things go in the Failoffs with my lizardman team, but I'm starting to like the necros quite a bit and I'm thinking about using them in season 5.

Edit:  I meant +4 str werewolf.  I must have been thinking of my +5 str Saurus.

Let's hope I win the cup so I can retire Alive not Dead and let you take over mate  :drill:

I like the necros, too. They seem to support the way I'm trying to play the orcs. Enough armor to take some punishment, but some decent passing options.

I'll take games today, hit me up.

Will also be online for some pre-pre-season blood bowl in euro prime.

I gotta warm up the nurgles. Hit me up on steam.

I had a game with Ginaz. My nurgle did nearly as well as they did again Megrim's humans. Got him down to only one player on the pitch!

Still no fun skillups. I haven't had a decent roll on any player in any of my teams for a long long time now.

Played Carnifex in back to back matches using my rookie Wood Elves. First match against his Vampires was carnage and I beat him like a red-headed stepchild 3-1. Second one against his Necro team went the other way and I lost that 2-0. Had fun with the Woodies and they might be replacing the Hackers in a future season.

Ran into a BBManager issue when trying to upload the games afterwards. I fired up BBManager and it auto-detected the last game I played (vs the Necro team) no problem so I uploaded that. Then, I went to upload the Vampires game and even when I selected the correct replay file the uploader insisted that it was the Necro match. I uploaded it anyway and, sure enough the match statistics etc were all from the Necro match. How do I fix that?

BB Manager only works for last game played.

Sometimes you can fix by viewing the replay, in full, of the other game you want to upload. Then try BB Manager.

Ready for another game, if anyone is awake!

If you do this, remember that the + button speeds up time during the replays.  IIRC it takes less than 5 minutes at max speed.

Even better, you can just load the replay and then immediately abandon the game, and BBManager will still detect it as the last game played.

If you do that, it won't generate the end-of-game match report, which messes the stats up. Use  +++++, it's the only way to be sure!

Free for one last pre-pre-season warmup if anyone is interested.

I'm looking for a game today, hit me up.

Sky - you may like 'developed' dark elves. they are a total pain in the ass to start but with AV8 all round (if you hide the Av7 pieces carefully) they can generally take a small beating.

Wierdly humans are also a more passy-middle-of-the-road version of orcs. Look them up.

Both teams don't play great to start but are decent when slightly developed.

Humans are a fun, well-balanced team to play. They have a big guy, start with two guys with block, their catchers start out decent, they can get a thrower. They are a good team to learn the game with, IMO, because while they aren't great at anything, they can be good at lots of things.

Now that my humans have a lot of guard I see their potential.  I dislike their catchers as they feel like slower gutter runners without access to mutations, and, to be honest, the Ogre is a liability until he gets block.  Getting four blitzers is awesome though and are pretty clearly the heart of the team unless you develop a really amazing thrower, and even that can be risky as my now retired Thrower Augustus can testify due to a career ending -MA injury.

I think my toughest transition from orcs is going to be getting used to guys with less than av9 :) I do tend to play a pretty passy game and this season my bashing sucked ass (I was at the top of s#3 kills regular season). Maybe it's a sign, Chuck was in the top ten passers S#3 and I think top 3 S#4...

On the big guy thing, my Troll was barely useful and I did buy him late. I put Guard on him rather than Block when he got MVP late last season (last S#4 game, iirc), thinking he might do better as a fulcrum for flanking Black Orcs (especially the str5 BO, guaranteed str6 block off the LoS. One reason I want to keep playing the orcs, I picked up a lot of guard toward the end of last season, my cages should be a lot tougher in S#5 if the Tards continue.

I feel like humans would probably be a pretty frustrating starter team, personally. I've never been a fan, their catchers with the strength 2 but none of the agility of the other strength 2 pieces really annoy me.

With dauntless or a lucky +STR level up the catchers can make good blitzers/ball strippers akin to a gutter runner.  I've developed one as a straight up catcher and scorer and he is pretty disappointing, though he did have a 3 TD game this weekend.  I started without any catchers and did just fine, but having at least one player with 8 MA does help, even if it is from a STR 2 player.

I'm looking for a game or two this morning, please hit me up on steam if you're available.

Be careful when Carnifex offers up his 'crappy vampire team'. Played them with my rats, and won 3-2 but lost 270k of gutter runner and rat ogre in the process.

Fuck all useless apothecaries.

I miss the old apothecary rules.  Honestly, I haven't had an apothecary roll that made a difference in 7+ games.

I'll offer to play his vampires with the Emperors though...

I believe one of Festering Wound's two losses (with the pre-season league win we're 2-1-2, iirc) was to those Vamps.

Anyone up for a game please msg me on steam!

I'm looking to play a brand new chaos team in feeder. anyone around?

Anyone up for a game?

I will be looking for a feeder game tonight around 7 EDT if anybody wants to shoot me a message.

There be teams needing authorisation! Darn commishes!

Anyone up for a game in the next hour or so msg me on steam!

(Ruvaldt killed 2 of my players 2 days ago so feel free to join  :drill: )

If it makes you feel any better, the two I killed played very well for my Nurgle team against Paelos tonight.

And I murdered one of Ruvaldts guys on the last turn.  :awesome_for_real:

This I like.

Also sadface, no responses for Feeder league, but I guess Deus Ex is as awesome as it should be.

More Drunken blood bowl next weekend!   :awesome_for_real:

Yes, Paelos excels at random murder.

Alright, because I have no expectations of actually winning, I've applied for the league with my team of Halflings.  Will be on tonight around 8ish EST to allow anyone to beat up on me  :grin:

Are you sure you want to do that?  A lot of the "joke" teams are actually playable given enough practice and some luck, but Halflings are probably the least capable of ever doing anything of substance on the pitch.  Goblins can win, and when they don't they can at least make their opponents pay for their victory.  Ogres can win given the proper rolls on boneheads and a ball-carrying Ogre.  Halflings, on the other hand, are pretty much just screwed from the very beginning, and exist mostly for masochists.  We've yet to have a Halfling team in the regular season, in fact.

I would advise Orcs or Dwarves.  If you're feeling daring, maybe Wood Elves, because they can actually pull off some amazing plays without a lot of development.  It's up to you though, my Nurgles will play you regardless!

Oh I figured I'd get my feet wet first just to see how things pan out.  Maybe get serious later down the line.  The Halflings though...they just seem to fit me, for now.  We'll see how it goes.

Just don't draw any conclusions from playing halflings. It is unlikely the game will seem much fun unless you get inducements right straight away.

I'd recommend submitting a bunch if different teams, and see which work for you.

Avoid...

Halfling
Goblin
Ogre
Vampire
Dark elf
Nurgle
Khemri
Chaos

Until you are confident you understand the game.

Best newbie teams include orc, undead, Necromantic, norse, lizards, possibly human. Especially orcs.

Don't play dwarfs. Everybody hates dwarfs and they aren't much fun.

Frenzy can get new coaches into trouble, but yeah, Norse can be good for a beginning coach.  In that same vein, I think Amazons are reasonably good for new coaches and a new Amazon/Norse team can do things that new Undead or Human teams can't.  I wouldn't advise Lizards, mostly due to their lack of ball handling skills, possible frustrations from skinks getting injured or dying regularly, and also their complete lack of the block skill at team creation.

I still think Dwarves are a good team to play as a new player, though they are boring.  It's probably best to play them against the AI though because it is true that your fellow human players would frown upon your team choice.  I generally won't play against Dwarves unless I have to in a league match or I just really like the coach who is handling them.

Advice taken...I'll browse around and see if something else peaks my interest...though a couple of the AI matches I've had so far with the 'flings, while unsuccessful from a touchdown view, were still fun to play, even for the sake of seeing Dark Elf after Dark Elf get tripped up and eventually sent off the field  :grin:

Just remember, no matter what team you start out with, YOU WILL SUCK. You will get beaten handily and scoring a lone TD in a game you lose 3-1 will be a victory.

No doubt...I have no hope at all that I'm just gonna waltz in and start kicking ass.

...but I do hope to make you lot 'earn' that victory over me  :drill:

I did way better my first season. Then I tried to actually score instead of just bash the crap out of people. I lost something like 7 or 8 games or 8 of 9 or whatever, in season 4. For season 5, back to bashing!

Dwarf haters.  :oh_i_see:

Anyway I wouldn't personally include dark elves on a newbie 'avoid' list, you should just stay away from their weirder pieces like assassins and maybe witch elves.

Yeah, one of Coach's Dark Elf starting rosters is 10 lineman and 1 runner, and you can't get much simpler than that.  Pretty flexible, too, since they are agile elves with not-completely-terrible AV.  I would totally take them as a first team.

I also (mostly) disagree with lizards.  They get you into the good habits of hitting with your hitting players and moving the ball with the ball-movers, and you'll never be confused about who is supposed to be doing what.  The sauruses can be pretty vicious too, as long as you have 4-6 of them out there.  

There are two caveats to lizards, though.  You can get into a bad dodging habit with them - my first team was lizards, I hadn't noticed that Stunty makes dodging through tackle zones way way easier, so my next team (some kind of elf) took a horrible beating until I figured out WTF was going on with that.  And the other thing is that sauruses need some skills to go against the TV 1500-ish block-heavier teams without embarrassing themselves, but that's what the feeder league is for, rite?

Edit: Wait, lizards WAS on the recommended list.  Well, I recommend it too, then!  Reading is hard.  :uhrr:

You're crazy, I totally tied my first game of last season!  :why_so_serious:  I'm actually getting my ass kicked way harder on my stupid high elf team in the pre-season fuckery. I am terrible at elves.


As for the whining about dwarves, ignore it. They're a good starter team precisely because they are boring. They aren't very fast, though, so you have to like long, grinding drives and be good about your placement (which I am bad at).

Don't start with Chaos.

I started with Humans, learned the game and made some switches. It was a good way to learn.

Like Chaos, Humans take a little growing into, but it's far less extreme.  As I'm learning from my Emperors in the D&M tourney they can compete with any other team on the pitch, but their players sure won't blow you away based upon stats alone.  Having a Thrower with Sure Hands and four blitzers with Block from the very beginning make them friendly to new coaches because they at least have some safety net, but at the same time you won't get used to pulling off crazy bullshit plays or absurdly well-skilled starting Dwarves; both of which are good things.

The thing about all the teams I listed above is that they teach how to play the game properly.

Humans are one of the best examples of that.


Also, if someone wants a feeder league game ping me on steam. Will start randomly messaging people soon.

My Skaven just tied with Ruvaldt's Humans 2-2.

Conclusions:

I still hate tackle.
Rats get a nosebleed if forced to hold the ball longer than one turn.
4 defensive touchdowns is the best number of defensive touchdowns.

Fun game.  My catchers proved their usefulness, but Maximinus Thrax continues to underwhelm.  Only one dead Skaven at least, and we're both set for the sixth D&M game.  Bring on the  :drill:!

Finally got my initial 'Fling team to play Eldaec's Gobbins.  I made a number of mistakes and the dice were not kind on some of my non-mistakes, but every failure helped reinforce a proper playstyle and prioritization.  I am learning  :grin:

In both taking his advice and reviewing some TV strategies, I trashed the team and submitted a new Fling team along with a basic Human team.  I'm willing to take on all challengers that want to kick my ass to help me learn the game  :drill:  Friend me up in Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197963229509

If someone wants to play some BB, ping me on steam.

DO THIS NOW

Did this accidently get set to allow 4 minute turns? 'Cause Strazos and I just had a game where it was 4 minute turns.

I played last night and only had the one true 2 minute turn option.

In other news, I'm looking for blood bowl matches tonight if anyone wants some feeder league action.

I should clarify that in my timezone, tonight is round about now.

I'm back online now and will be pestering people for feeder matches quite often.  :awesome_for_real:

Just had the weirdest match vs ben.skelly (Canklebiter). I meant to play him with my throwaway Chaos team but wasn't paying attention and went ahead with Fianna Chulain instead - who I'd just finished carefully pruning down to size for Season 5. He was playing a fresh Undead team (the team being the fresh part not the undead...) and took all 560k of his inducements as rerolls.

I choose to kick first and he starts off by tearing chunks out of my Elves. By turn 6 he has his first touchdown and I have eight elves KOd or injured. Despite only having five players on the pitch for the return kick, Elven Bullshit brings the score level at half time. Things aren't much better for the second half as far as ambulatory Elvishness is concerned. I start the half with 6 players on the pitch and both Wardancers KOd. The kick is very short so I grab the ball with a catcher and throw it backwards to my thrower then try and move the rest of my players out of danger. The Undead move in and try to surround the Elves causing another injury in the process but I break out and score a second touchdown after trying to stall a bit. I have seven Elves for the next drive and the kick off event is a riot which I didn't really want to see. At least both of my Wardancers are back on their feet again. Some ill advised ball handling by the Undead sees the ball hit the pitch but it's covered by tacklezones so I leap a Wardancer onto it and then dodge away with the ball. A Wight blitzes the wardancer but can't get anything other than a push and I walk in a third TD with three turns to go. The third drive starts with another very short kick, the Elves grab the ball and run with it. Again the Undead manage to get a blitz on the ball carrier but again they can only get a push and I run in a fourth TD on my last turn. THe very last Undead turn of the game is unventful and the whistle blows.

Now though I have a bunch of MNGs to deal with as well as two level ups that upset my carefully pruned team. My Nerves of Steel/Fend catcher hit level 4 so I gave him Leap and a Wardancer went to level 2 and rolled a double so I gave her Mighty Blow. The replay is on BB Manager and is worth watching if you are a fan of seeing Elves getting their shit pushed in.

 :ye_gods:

Wow, yeah, you got served right off the back, but came back in style.  Well played.

The cynical part of me is thankful that you now well exceed the 1300 TV entry ceiling  :awesome_for_real:

Happy to play feeder matches this weekend although I live on the other side of the world so timing's aren't great but definitely post or hit me up.

Between the time of this posting and approx. 2 hours hereafter, my 'flings are available for tackle practice.  Send me a PM via here or Steam.

And once again, tonight my wife will be away, so I'll have this invitation open once more starting at 7PM EST. 

I too, am available for blood bowl tonight (now).

So, we actually just played this match up...my Halflings vs. Ruv's Nurgles, and we tied 1 to 1.  There's was actually a grand opportunity for me to make it 2-0, but my newbness fumbled the execution of playing my 'flings strategically.  Still, a well played match, I'd say.  Match was uploaded to the BBManager if anyone wants to watch the 'flings take a beating :P

I'm out for the night...maybe some more action this weekend  :drill:

And for the number munchers:

That was a fun game which turned out to be more challenging than I thought it would be.  I had a terrible time landing blocks, and lost the ball on my second turn after two double attacker-down dice; nearly gave up a TD in the aftermath until Luckton took one too many gfis trying to get away from me.

What really killed me was the weather in the second half.  I lost three players to the heat while the Halflings lost none, and Luckton managed an amazing ball pickup/two-gfi TD to end his 16th turn.  The trees were amazingly active also.  I don't think any of them took root in the entire game and they ran all over the place!  Luckton played really well and deserved that tie, for sure.  Looking forward to more games.

I did have one Take Root near the end...tried to fling a 'fling at the mosh so he could assist in that 11th hour ball pickup, but the tree fumbled the 'fling.  Fortunately he wasn't needed  :grin:  I'm also disappointed that my Master Chef didn't come through for me as well as I'd hoped.

I think I may revise the team one last time before S5 takes off.  It'll raise my TV a little, but it should make my Master Chef a little more worthwhile along with really irking off some people  :why_so_serious:

The successful halfling toss on your round ten was pretty awesome.  I don't think I had ever seen a fully successful one done before.

Should be up for a game or two in 4 hours if all goes well

Looking for some games on my feeder league lizards and nurgle if anyone is around. Bug me on steam or join the f13 bloodbowlers group chat.

My halflings have just provided further evidence of short person superiority, tying 0-0 with Iain's amped up chaos side.

PC crashed just seconds after completing the game, providing further evidence that halflings are indeed Nuffle's chosen ones.

'Amped up' is being a bit kind to them. They have about four players who have levelled up so they aren't as terrible as most Chaos sides are. Was a fun game though and you did well to prevent me from scoring twice in the second half.

Frantic packing procastination starts now.

Blood bowl is included  :awesome_for_real:

Between taking care of my 11-month old and playing LotRO, I'm available today until 1600 EST for matches with my Human and off-season Halfling teams.  Hit me up if interested.

C'mon...I know 'everyone' out there isn't working  :oh_i_see:

Alright, I guess everyone is working...so I took my 'flings on the road the Auld League Matchmaking circuit.  After four games, my stat was 1-1-2, got a Treeman to level 2 with +1MA and a 'fling to level 2 with Dive Tackle.

Not a bad run  :awesome_for_real:

Um...you know that F13 teams can only ever play in the Feeder and Season leagues...right?

It isn't his Season 5 halflings, those are already apped to the regular league.

Aye, I rolled out a new 'fling team just for the Matchmaking public hell

Feeder league action available today - ping me on steam, will randomly harrass people a bit later for matches.

Seems like luckton's halflings are more of a threat than you'd think. Just beat them 1-0 with my lizards, but luckton had a loose fling in possession just yards from the end zone more than once, a successful short pass on turn 16 would have turned the game into a tie. Tricky little buggers.

Aye, a couple of good matches.  The first one with my Human team was complete clownshoes, as I didn't have a lot of games played as Human, let alone that team (was their first game in the Feeder).  A broken collarbone on my Ogre and a consistent string of bad rolls for me and good roles for Eld made that game their last, as I fired the lot of them for their utter failure and bad luck of the dice.  :awesome_for_real:

I was much more satisfied with the Halflng rematch against the Lizards.  The Lizards brought the pain again, sending a number of 'flings off the field, but my treemen lead by Deeproot brought the pain right back at 'em, and we finished the game with about the same number of players in the injury box.

Got a Treeman to level 2 and gave him Guard.  Good times  :why_so_serious:

For those wondering, my first match in S5 with Falc goes down this Wednesday.   :drill:

Yeah, Luckton tied with my Nurgles a while back.  Like I said in the prediction thread, I think people disregard his team at their own peril.  They could at least be a spoiler.

Well i'm looking forwards to playing him. Even if I will be giving away 1100-1400 in inducements.

1 Chef,
1 Wiz,
2 Babes,
1 Bribe,
Deeproot,
Morg,
Zara,

Will be interesting!

If anyone can choke that game away it is Falconeer.   :grin:

i was talking about playing luckton. i duno what i will be giving away vs falc. somehow my tv is currently the highest in my div!

Yeah, Falc is who luckton plays this week.

Pretty sure Ingmar was talking about Falc choking vs Luckton.

Suspect your high TV might be down to having 5 level 4s and 4 stat ups.

I'm just giving up on TV management personally, I could do it but I'd have to fire my precious deathroller to do so. Now watch as I tie/lose the next 6 games and miss the playoffs due to wizards.

Currently luckton has 950k inducements.

He can dump cheerleaders, coaches (both are worthless), the apothecary (who are you going to use it on? Indestructable trees or worthless halflings?) and one reroll (your good players all have loner) to take that to 1100k.

Deeproot : 300k
Morg : 430k
Zara : 270k
Chef : 100k

Total : 1100k

It's been my experience thus far that the Masterchef is really only effective if I can get 'and' deny my opponent his rerolls.  While the MC is cool, if a kickoff event does a FAME check, I loose unless I have the proper counters.  Thus why when I found that Falc was my first opponent, I invested into max artificial FAME and picked up the Cheerleaders and Coaches, to which I don't believe Falc has either. 

I'll drop the Apoc, sure, but when the opportunity to exploit my opponent comes knocking, I don't just answer, I'll kick down the damn door for it to enter.  All for the sake of putting the random factors of this game in my favor.  'That' is how Halflings roll, motherfracker.  :drill:

I guess that would see you swap in Zara for a wizard, but I think you'd really miss a potential str4 blodging ball carrier, a wizard plus maybe a reroll doesn't seem as exciting.

Wait, are we colluding to help the new meat win games?

If so we're doing a terrible job. Wizards > star players, and an in-house apothecary is surely worth a single bloodweiser babe.

Yeah I think it is worth having around just for trees, or to keep star players on the pitch.

No way, star players > wizards - wizards only help you once a game...maybe.

Well I hereby encourage every single person I play for the rest of the season to load up on star players and under no circumstances to buy wizards. Please?

I'd buy TWO if I could, you bastard. Just to hear you cry. It will bring me comfort as you slaughter my poor dudes.

Deal ingmar!

Oh wait, none of the Skaven star players are actually in the game, apart from the over priced RO. Looks like it's a wizard for me.

Had a very Pyrrhic victory against IainC in the feeder league just now - my thrower took a -1 agi, a lineman died, and my super wardancer is now 6 AV.  :ye_gods:

Going to take some real doing to get this team to a 1300-playable-in-main-league state now.

I can't complain about the injury dice, there were pleasingly few elves polluting the pitch by the end but I definitely would have liked a bit more averageness in my pick-up rolls though. The last few turns of each half were a comedy of errors as Skinks kept failing to get the ball over and over again.

Had two great AND HILARIOUS games against Megrim's fresh Necromantic team.

Vampires and Ogres surprisingly the Ogres drew and the Vampires won!

Sadly I should be busy with Asian interpretations of Halloween parties this weekend but message Catfud for more Blood bowl in the future!

Tale of the tape:

Continued my Blood Bowl addiction and had another friendly with Megrim, playing his Necromantic with my undead.

Overall an uneventful game where I was outplayed for a 2-0 loss but I did kill his newly levelled Block Wolf  :drill:

His 2nd new Wolf however rolled doubles and now as Might Blow to dish out the pain  :ye_gods:

If anyone wants a game say hi on steam.

If anyone is looking for some feeder league action today just hit me up on steam.

Just had a fun match with Llyse's Vampires vs my off-season 'flings.  She scored twice, but I managed to finally get a TD in thanks to the roll of the dice.  My previous MVP Treeman won again, and is already halfway to his next level.

Can I swap out teams in the season?  :grin:

Random thought about the qualification rule for feeder league teams, please feel free to shoot as many holes in this as I haven't really thought it through very far:

What if we made the rule 1300 TV not counting fan factor? That would make the contortions you have to deal with in order to develop your team to 1300 to get it ready a lot less annoying, without having much if any impact on the team's actual effectiveness. Are there any big downsides I'm missing?

Yeah: how pissed I will be that the rule wasn't in effect before I brought in my wood elves to get their asses crippled!

I thought Fan Factor affected how much monies you get at the end of a match in some way?  That would be some benefit from it, however small.

Whilst I believe you are correct it doesn't directly influence the skills of the players you bring into the league and I think that is the main point of the proposal. Personally i don't mind since I will be sticking with the lizards for a while I think, too much effort to build them up, though if either of the norse teams or that damn goblin chainsaw dude manage to kill my mighty blow saurus I might feel differently!

It affects the FAME calculation:

Each team rolls 2d6 and adds their fan factor at the start of the game to determine how many fans you have at the game. If you have more fans than your opponent, you get +1 FAME, if you have twice as many you get +2 FAME. That gets added to your rolls for some opposed things on kickoffs (cheering fans, brilliant coaching, thrown rock targeting, and pitch invasion success chances). You also determine your money at the end by adding 10,000 extra per +1 fame you had, so a winning team with +2 FAME gets d6+3x10,000 gold.

So, yeah, it has an effect on the game, fairly minor and random unless you're talking about extreme differences in FF between teams.

Yeah I did the math at some point and you need a hell of a lot of Fan Factor to make any sort of monetary difference. Its greatest potential impact is in kick-off results, but it's going to take some serious effort to get a 1300 TV team with any sort of FF advantage on existing league teams.

And given that it starts a feeder league team early on the path to TV bloat, I'm not sure it's not just a wash anyway. I was just brainstorming for ideas to help feeder league teams be able to play a couple more games to replace players who get hurt along the way without risking stuff like fan factor increasing their TV past the point where they could actually join the league legally before they get the cash needed or whatever.

I think it's nice to not include but it slightly complicates it for Falc when adding new teams.

And it does slightly affect gameplay so my initial vote is no ignoring FF.

Also it means theoretically you can recycle your team infinitely ignoring FF values until you've rolled all the +1 strength and doubles you need. (an unlikely scenario I know) but still  :why_so_serious:

Well, you could also do that by just deleting and remaking teams until you get one you're happy with. Up to Falconeer which one of those options is more annoying really.  :awesome_for_real:

But yeah I can see the simplicity argument.

I thought that it was a means of compensating for the ability to develop a team prior to League entry.

You are able to come in with a more developed team -> you are more likely to win matches -> you are more likely to make the money back.

Of course, most vanilla teams going into the League have zero cash after spending it all on team creation; but that just leads into the fact that the game favours high-armour pieces in skill retention, and that high-armour teams tend to stockpile money regardless of opening strategy. Bonus FF feeds free cash into that cycle.

The way we have it now, at least there is the possible flexibility of playing a vanilla team and having cash left over in the kitty/buying FF early and not taking subs for cheap low-armour teams.

In other news...

I think I'm about 'flinged out with Halflings for the moment.  It's a beautiful team when it works, and I've learned a lot from sacrificing many of them.  That said, I've submitted a fresh Orc team to the Feed for random play and perhaps future season participation. 

I have also submitted a new side.

Msg me on Steam if you would like to play a game!

Sorry for not accepting new teams. I am gonna do it now. Also, I am going to promote Lamaros to Nerd Extraordinaire, which means he'll be able to accept teams too. Why Lamaros? Why not!?

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To celebrate this historic milestone I have added a new Vampire team to the league. May they live long in our lives and our hearts.

Anyone up for a game? Right noww.

I'm down!

I know most of you are asleep now, but game anyone?

Shoulda' pinged me an hour ago, I usually wake up around 0400 EST and get in a little game time before work.  Would love to get my new Orc team some game-time.  :grin:

In the end I played Llyse a bit. My Vamps v Skaven. Won the first game 4-2! Except that was because he crashed. Lost the second 4-1, but could have made it 3-2 if I had been more lucky with some throws and/or pickups.

Vampires is hard, and I don't think starting with four and three rerolls is the best way to go. So in the Finger Painters were short lived. Long live their replacements, RED RED RED.

In all of the research I've done, I've yet to see a Vamp team with no less than 5 RRs going into a match.  I suppose it also depends on the number of Vamps you actually employ as well...mo' blood sucky, mo' problems, right?

Megrim only has 4. He is a much better player than me though, and experienced with Vamps.

Indeed...I robbed him of two RRs per half when we played our S5 match and he still schooled me  :awesome_for_real:

Progress continues with my Orc team.  Played Ruvault in a couple matches last night, one against his fresh Dark Elf team, and the other his Gobbos.

The dice were in no way kind to me for at least 75% of the Dark Elf match.  Rarely did I receive a Defender Down or Stumble, and I threw a good chunk of two-die blocks too.  Ruv on the other hand lucked out to giving the Orcs dirt naps for most of the time, and schooled me proper in fine Elfish Bullshit arts, to include taking my new Troll out of the match and missing his next game.  AGI 4 Elfs made my Orcs look like they all standing still Bone-headed, and all avoided any Badly Hurt or worse injury rolls at all for the couple that I manged to take down. 

For the Goblins, I still had a somewhat rough start on dice rolls, but things turned around in the end.  Managed to keep the Gobbos from scoring on their fully-loaded Secret Weapon first-half drive, blocked the Looney's Chainsaw back into his face, and managed to not have the goblin trolls beat me up too badly.  Ruv's Fanatic manged to perma-bench a couple of my Orcs before I could get away from his wild flailing about.  For the second half, Ruv kicked the ball all the way to my endzone, giving me a tough time just trying to move the ball past the line of scrimmage with his Troll road-blocks.  It seemed though that Nuffle decided that he was done tormenting me, and the dice blocks started commin' up Defender Downs and the goblins fell one turn after the next.  The trolls moved in to put the pressure on my Thrower, but in the end, a couple of bad dodges by the gobbos opened up a hole that allowed me to pass the ball to the safe hands of a Blitzer, and spend the last couple turns just free running to the end-zone, waving buh-bye at the gobbo Fanatic flailing around wantonly on defense. 

A Blitzer leveled up and now brings the team their first Tackle player, and a Black Orc learned how to Guard, allowing him to lend his STR 4 to others in future matches.  Miraculously, my Troll got MVP in the Elf match, and is a good Casualty hit away from leveling up himself.

My orcs are now sitting at 1300 and ready for possible promotion next season.  :drill:

On the bones of my human team.   My humans are now 0-3, but I'm not sick/annoyed/quitting them yet!  RIP Starbuck and Pip, you will be buried at sea.

Hey I only killed one of those guys!

Available for feeder league action around about now. Someone ping me on steam.

From one boring, conservative AV9 team to another. Break out of the box, man! Step into the light!

I was going to play wood elves, but my feeder elves are in the spiral of need-cash-to-replace-people-but-playing-more-makes-my-TV-go-up-so-I-need-cash-to-replace-people etc.

Who is katsumori? Applied with a lizard team. Doesn't look like a f13er.

Good job, Lamaros. DO NOT APPROVE of anybody who isn't known. Reject that application, please.

Rejected Kregor as I don't know who that is.

Also kicked Aluria from the league as I had no idea who that is either. Probably shouldn't have done that before checking with you hey Falc?  :grin:

Also who are Beshamon, stefanvrijens, isneq, and Fudge?

I can only assume they are Brocktoon's friends. But yes, better to check cause the Feeder League can easily host friends who are not on f13 in an attempt to convert them. Let's not accept people who we don't know, but let's ask before kicking.

Also, remember. Always only accept teams that have ZERO played matchs, ever.

My Orcs are accepting all challengers until approx. 1230 EST today.  Hit me up on Steam if interested.

Will update this post as matches happen/

0630: Engaged Lamaros' Goblins.
0730: Match complete.  0-0 tie.  Nuffle fucked both of our dice.  A Lineman KIAed from crowd surfing, and a Gobbo KIAed as well.
0740: Engaged Lamaros' fresh Skaven team.
0836: Match complete.  2-1 Lamaros.  Could have tied it up, but Nuffle fucked me again and I decided to just beat up some more rats.  I incurred 2 deaths and 3 Badly Hurts.
0842: Idle again.  FF12 emulated time!

Had a match up against Masters Dwarves Wilson's Beard and did they live up to their masters name.

7 KOs, Dead line elf and 3 badly hurts.

Still good practice for learning Elf Bullshit and only lost a line elf.

It'll be a long time before I get to the Masters with Sidewindin' Stars though

Blackrock & Roll | 1 - 2 | Not Ready For Primetimers

So, yeah, Ruv played another excellent ball-handling and defense game, exploiting my newb cages and playing that Elfish Bullshit like nobody's business.  I repaid him in kind by turning his team into SPP pinatas, inflicting no less than 2 KOs and 7 Injuries, perma injuring two with a niggling and a -1AV, and two more missing their next match as well.  So, we both kinda 'won' in our own ways  :why_so_serious:

Even with all the points, I gained only one level with a Blitzer, who's now level 3 and is now armed with Mighty Blow in addition to his Block and Tackle.   :drill:

Match is uploaded if anyone needs/wants some afternoon entertainment of Elfs winning against Orcs, or vice-versa, depending on your perspective  :grin:.  Numbers for number munchers are below.

Yeah, at some point I said that my players were like pinatas, only instead of candy, SPPs come out.  I felt pretty mangled in that game, which is appropriate considering the Ex-Presidents and Emperors are both built around bludgeoning things.  That hypnotic gaze star player is worth his weight in gold though.  For being the cheapest star player I can buy with a pro elf team he sure can be a game changer.  I think you would have tied if I hadn't used the hypnotic gaze to open up a blitzing opportunity at the start of the second half.

That team is next to being ruined though.  I have 170k in funds and I need to replace like four players, one of which is a 110k blitzer, who costs so much because apparently pro elf blitzers demand Amazon hookers and blow as part of their hiring package.  My original second blitzer died after being struck fatally by a rock in his first game though so I can't really blame them for living it up while they can.  I don't even have an apothecary yet.

Damned good game though.  Luckton is building a mean orc team that may not be winning every game, but is definitely exacting some pain upon opponents, and that's just as good as winning in most cases.

It would be nice if we had a season of Elf Bowl with nothing but Elf teams in it, to complement the Nothing-But-Beastmen league

I've thought about starting such a league.  I'd allow only dark elves, high elves, pro elves and wood elves.  The only reason I haven't is I feared another side league might be too much to ask of the community and I wouldn't get enough sign-ups to justify the league.  If folks showed interest, I'd start it up, or if someone else did I'd join it.

I'd say alternate the two.  After season two of Horn and Hooves, do the Elf thing.

Yeah, one gimmick league at a time seems like a good plan.

I'm still waiting to play my next match in the Snotling league, personally.

Just got home from work...still wound up a bit, so if anyone reads this in the next 30 minutes, hit me up on Steam for a match if interested.

Played Lamaros' Goblins again.  His Looney finally figured out how to use his Chainsaw, and sent my fresh lvl three Blitzer off the field Badly Injured, along with giving one my B.O.B.s with Guard a perma -1AV.  The Fanatic Badly Injured my other B.O.B. with Guard off the field, leaving me without a whole lot of support power.  Still, was a good game and showed me yet again that I'm still newbing it up in areas that I should be smarter at by now.  I was extremely lucky with the dice in the first half, pulling off a stupidly risky play in having a downed Blitzer blitz up, knock off a goblin, run in to grab the ball while another gobbo was hovering over it from the other side, and dodging away from aforementioned gobbo to run in a touchdown.

Had I not been so worried about his Looney staying around for a second drive (which I crowd surfed right off the field after a bad blitz on the Looney's part), I probably could have done more to prevent him scoring before the end of the first half.  But gobbin shortness and dodging allow him to get away from my orc's grasps everytime.

In the second half, I started off strong and looked like I could have scored again, but I got too aggressive ball-carrying-wise and underestimated the gobbo's tenacity.  Even with the ball lying a single square away from the endzone, Lam manged to pick it up and run it all the way back to score again before the end of the game.

Even with the loss though, I managed to level up a Blitzer to level 2 (yay for more tackle to stop Dodging Bullshit!) and a B.O.B. got to level 3 (Guard + Block = "...and I'm like "Fuck yoooouuu!")  :drill:

Yeah I think I made about 700 dodges and GFIs to score the winning effort, but it was delightful all the same. I think I'll probably ditch my fanatic though, he got a skill up and I'm not sure that 90k is value for the likes of him.

Had an ugly biff match between lucktoon's orcs and my forgotten khemri.

Good fun with the winning touchdown scored by khemri in 4 turns (Beat that Proudft!   :drill: )

Only 1 injury of note each side costing me my tackle blitz-ra a MNG and knocking a black Orc out for another match.

6 strength block is fun  :awesome_for_real:

The Orcs just can't seem to catch a break.  I played Megrim's Necro team this morning, and once again found myself on the receiving end of far too many Defender Down rolls while not being able to put out any of my own.  Along with the Kick Off Events not drawing in my favor, Megrim stomped me out 2-0.  Yet with every loss they grow stronger still; my Thrower got to level 3.

Maybe the next game I can turn things around...

Maybe I'll bench the team for a bit and roll up something new.  Or maybe go back to 'flings...at least then I can expect to lose and makes winning even more surprising and satisfying  :why_so_serious:

My loser humans need someone they can beat!

I'm sure they can beat my pro elves or broken high elf team.

I'll ping you tonight when I get home from work if you're up for the challenge  :grin:

Chance of humiliation outweighed by chance of SPPs.  I'm down!

So we played this match, and my confidence in my orcs has been restored.  Kicking off to the Humans in the first half, my orcs ganged up on their carrier before they could even get the ball past the LOS.  Proud shot back though, and the ball bounced around a mess of humans and orcs before finally landing the hands of a Blocking B.O.B.  :why_so_serious:.  Even with his 4MA though, I managed to keep a path clear for the three turns needed for the BOB to cover the ground and run it in for a turn 8 TD.

Second half had me receiving.  I made a drive up my left side, keeping a barrier of orcs up as much as possible.  Proud's humans pulled some Elfish bullshit though, dodging enough players out of their marks and infiltrated the line.  I cleared a hole for my thrower to cross over up and to the middle, but a human blitzer got loose and punched my thrower in the throat, benching up for the rest of the game and missing his next (which reminds me to fire my Apothecary...his reroll was a Death  :uhrr:).  Still, with most of his humans entrenched on the sides and early scouts sent downfield, I managed to get a Blitzer in to recover the ball and run it back in for a Turn 14 TD.  Burned a roll for the GFI, which was a serious gamble with the field under a blizzard the entire match, but he made it.

No serious perma or game-missing injuries to the humans...just one Badly Hurt and many KOs.

I want to experiment with mutations and such.  New Chaos team "Dante's Inferno" submitted for approval of the Midnight Society f13 Feeder League demi-gods.

Halflings to Chaos? You are in for some surprises, sir.

Eh, I've played about a dozen+ games with my Orcs now, and they've advanced rather rapidly in TV and skills.  I'd like to keep them eligible for entry into the next season. Going from Orcs to Chaos, it's basically 4 BOBs, 6 Linemen and a Troll that can rage-out instead of standing around stupefied. I don't even plan on scoring TDs...just bashing faces  :grin:

That's a good attitude to start a Chaos team with, because scoring touchdowns is not something you'll be doing early. You'll be lucky to bash the faces. They are a SLOW team to develop.

This was a hint.  WE REQUIRE MOAR BUTTON PUSHING NAO!   :drill:

Blitzers Jean Valjean and Inspector Javert went up to level 3 after the Fantasticks defeated proudft's Whalers 2-1 (as a result of a Javert to Valjean pass, no less). Valjean now has SIDESTEP in addition to blodge, and Javert rolled doubles and has GUARD (which made me laugh). I WANTED TO SHARE.

0-1-5, bitches!

Somehow I still like the humans.

The fact you can constantly yell at Ahab has got to help.

Well, the themed teams are more fun, as you are well aware.  Pointy Hat Squad and Burrowing Beetles were unfortunately made before I figured that out.

I still dunno what to do when/if I get another catcher to replace poor dead Starbuck.  Starbuck II?  Or just recycle the name... but that seems sort of cheesy.

I know I will recycle eventually on the Mutiny, if for no other reason than I cannot remember what names I've used already. I am PRETTY SURE the werewolf you killed was named Gristle McThornbody, something I didn't remember until after I had named the CURRENT werewolf named that. I would say for your dudes recycling will probably have to happen eventually too!

My rule on naming is that when recycling to drop bloat skills you are allowed to keep the name. Replacements because a guy died means it is clearly a different guy so you need a new name.

It's worked out that my replacement guy won't have the same exact name (I am on my third loser werewolf in that position, it's apparently cursed) but if that position is replaced a THIRD time, who knows?

I recycle names if I'm out of things that fit the theme.

Starbucks.

These are mythic, eternal figures -- they persist long after the body has failed them.

Stardoe.  :awesome_for_real:

God DAMN do I hate my pro elf team.  :uhrr:  I don't think Ingmar will let me play them enough to be presentable for the real league, so if I ever elf I guess it'll be The Fantasticks instead of The Blue Steel!

The humans are ready to take over for the Beetles if necessary, with 1300 TV, 0 gold, and a stellar 1-1-5 record.   :drill:

My Chaos team is in the mood for some blood this evening!  Someone hit me up if interested, I'll be playing ANNO 1404 till then.

Thanks for the drunken bloodbowl Luckton, apologies for the unresponsiveness at the end of the match.

I collapse into drink induced sleep onto my keyboard I think on the 14th but you got lots of injuries and spps from that...

Another skilled chaos team...  :ye_gods:

If you think that was bad, you should see the match I just had with ICE.  I think it was like 5 or 6 injuries, with only a couple of them Badly Hurt, everything else was  :ye_gods:.  Apparently this was ICE's 4th attempt at getting a Norse team off the ground too.. :why_so_serious:

Eh, it was fine until my Runner killed himself on a 1d block (skull rerolled to skull, I would estimate in all sobriety that I rolled over 50% skulls on my 1d blocks all game) and then the game crashed. Given that the dead Runner had scored one of my two TDs, and the crash meant that I had no MVP, and that in fact my 2-0 lead had only resulted in YOUR team getting even more free SPP as a result of the crash (giving you 4 free TDs worth of SPP)... just reminds me why Blood Bowl is basically a kind of stupid game.

I'm liking the development of this Chaos team of mine...now sporting 3 CW's with Block, 2 Wrestling Beasties, a +1MV Beastie, a +1AG Beastie, and a Minotaur that's just a couple points shy now of getting Tentacles  :drill:

With minos I usually go with claws first, unless I get doubles, and then get tentacles afterward.  Claws tends to help you get more casualties, which leads to faster SPP development, especially since you'll find your minotaur pairing up against other teams' big guys, who often have higher AV.  They're both great choices though.  That said, I'm a firm believer that Chaos teams don't necessarily need minos to begin with and if they don't get block by level three, or, at worst, level four, they're not worth their TV; they can cause an inordinate amount of turnovers without block and have AV8, which makes them vulnerable to fouling/injury.

I played his chaos with my Goblins. 4-0, two dead (1 rr to mng), a few other injuries...

And I have a Goblin MNG too.  :why_so_serious:

IMO, the ref should call out every foul unless you've got Sneaky Git.  You still have access to bribes and shit.

He almost killed my +1MV Beast, but the Apoth finally worked out for me.  Still, I lost one of my Wrestle Beasts  :cry:

Even with the losses, my 4th CW leveled up and rolled Doubles to get Jump Up.  My other Wrestle Bestie leveled up and picked up Tackle, and my Mino (who will also be missing his next game  :angryfist:) got Tentacles.

People who like watching replays, I have a new gem for you from the feeder league debut of my skaven vs. Ingmar's vampires.

The game is Golden Hamsters v. Rusholme Ruffians and it is comedy gold.  If you want to know who wins this epic battle of speed and fangs, tune in to BBManager.

The Hot Rats are apped to the league and need approval, by the way.

Anyone for a game?

This. Trying to get those goblins ready for the next season.

I'm down

And Drunk

Beware!

I'm drunk but not at home  :heartbreak:

If anyone is in the mood for more BB, my goblins are itching for a game.

Just applied with my Amazonian team, Balls and Chain, so someone do the clickety click.

Only if someone gives me a game.  :grin:

I'll applied with my ex-league HE team. Someone please approve, ty.

All teams accepted.

I've submitted my first Elfish team for battle.  Going the High Elf route.

Also, I'll be around most of today for matches if anyone's interested.  Hit me up on Steam if I'm on.

Proudft and I just played a match between our two D&M candidate teams.  The skaven induced the Rat Ogre Star Player, which was a bitch to overcome on my end.  Still, strategic use of my Mighty Blow Blitzer managed to get him off the field a couple times.

We both demonstrated our bashing and ball playing skills well, ending the game in a 2-2 tie.  Had it not been for the pitch invasion at the start of the match that basically left the rats with only two players on the field for the first two rounds, Proudft would have easily won.  Such is the randomness of Blood Bowl, I suppose  :awesome_for_real:

The training did well.  Got to promote a BOB and a Blitzer to level 3.  More Guard and Mighty Blow  :drill:

Approved team.

Anyone want a game?

Perhaps when I wake up in the morning and if you're still on.  Just finished a match with ICE.  Apparently my Orcs 'really' love to break every team ICE sends my way, although this time a couple of the elfs slipped onto their own head and spontaneously kerploded  :ye_gods: :why_so_serious:

Applied a couple new teams.

Also down for a game or two tonight if anybody wants.   Just message me on steam.

Well Lamros, the chat system seems to be down, as I only can see a couple people, and it says your offline, though I see your in Blood bowl.

I'd like to play more orcs.  Challenge them with what ever you want.

Or you could also approve the 3 teams I submitted and I can play one of them.   :awesome_for_real:

I applied with my Twilight themed Dark Elf team.  :why_so_serious:

Oh no, the approve key seems to be broken!

Hahaha, I figure the team is just begging for everyone to murder the fuck out of them.  :heart:

I would gladly murder sparkly type Dark Elves.

The name "Team Sparkle" was already taken. I was so sad! I had to settle for The Eclipse.

Up for another feeder league match tonight.  Just message me on steam if anybody wants to play.

If someone wants to play a game let me know. I promise no claw!

Just applied with a few teams. I may have to retire my Norse before next season, not sure.  :oh_i_see:

All teams accepted. Sorry, I was away on holidays.

My S5 'flings and my experimental Norse team have been submitted for approval.

Would it be possible to run a vote for electing a new sub-organizer for the Feeder as well?  I know Falc and Lam have been busy/occupied as of late...just someone who could approve new teams and whatnot.

I would nominate Eld, Ruv, or myself  :grin:

Approved your teams.

 :awesome_for_real:

Thank you :D

I will finally have a weekend chilling at home so people on steam, expect to be pinged at strange hours this weekend  :grin:

I may be working/spending time with family over the weekend, but we'll see what happens.

I do want to get back to BB Mondays for me.  The wife and kid are at work/school and it's my day off  :awesome_for_real:

So how does your Monday morning sound? (This is my Tuesday night)  :awesome_for_real:

We can do that  :grin:

Tonight, starting at 6PM EST (GMT -5), my new Norse team will be accepting all challengers, if you want to give me a shout.   :awesome_for_real:

Finally played some BloodBowl this weekend with Iain's Drilling and Manliness entry, Deadly Bears against Katzincsky's Lance of Vanilla humans. The Bears gave away some Bloodweister girls as inducments but it was an otherwise even match.

First half was as tightly contested as the TV ratings with the Bears winning the toss and electing to kick. Being so rusty the human coach made the mistake of leaving a human blitzer within frenzy crowdsurfer range but secured the ball and set up for some good old fashioned passing.

Luckily though blocks came up for the Human side and the blitzer avoided a Death Metal concert moshpit experience being pushed back by a follow up block by Iain's ghoul. A couple of more receivers got within TD range before QB1 Kirill electing to throw Long Bomb at risk of interception for a Touchdown. The Ghoul failed to intercept but the pass was off target landing in the top right corner of the field waiting for a pickup.

This play had left a blitzer on the TD line and one of the Werewolfs blitzed him off the field and guarded the ball like an old chew toy. By this time the Bears had burnt all of their 3 rerolls but were 2 players out with 2 blitzers KOed and 1 waiting by the sidelines. In return the Bears key ball handler +1 Agi wolf was Knocked the fuck out for the entirety of the match.

Of course rerolls are overrated and ballhandling skills are increased without rerolls so Mr Hugz makes the pick up and passes the ball to a free Ghoul who then flubs a pass to the free wights near the centre of the field.

In a last ditched desperate effort players are marked man to man before QB1 Kirill goes for a pickup and throw all the while with a Wight groping for his man jewels. Having fluffed the long bomb before would he be able to make the pass under such pressure?!

He does! The Bears get to counter with a blitz on the would be scorer though and simply needs to make a 2D block with Uncle Flesh Golem who has block skill against a hapless lineman before a Blitz!. However Yi the lineman is made of sterner stuff and Double skulls appear knocking the lumbering undead to the pitch! And the blitzer makes 2 GFIs with ease (and no rerolls!) to run the ball in the endzone on the 6th turn.

This gives the Bears only two turns to receive and without their star Werewolf ball handler, making it a tough but doable play to equalise before the second half. The Lancers get a reroll back and manage to harry the Bears for the 2nd half to end still in the lead.  :heart:

The 2nd half was a more one sided affair with the Deadly Bears caging up but not making much progress against the stalwart lineman and their loveable :heart: Idiot ogre Spain. It's not long before the constant pressure pops the ball loose and the scoreline ends up 2-0 to Katzincsky's Lancers with only 3 injuries in the match, 2 badly hurts on regenerating zombies and 1 on an unskilled lineman.

The bears got a skilled zombie while QB1 Kirill got safe throw for that extra punch.  :drill: :drill: :drill:

Luckton I should be around 9am Monday your time EST (11pm GMT +9 Tuesday) if I haven't collapsed into Drunken slumber by then  :awesome_for_real:

I need to take my kid to an appointment in the morning, but once we get back, if you indeed haven't collapsed in a drunken stupor, we will play  :awesome_for_real:

Looks like you went to sleep, Llyse.  No worries :-)  Maybe later today when you wake up.

In the meantime, I'm done with my kid's appointment, relocated my PC to the living room's 46" LED, and I'm ready to rock against anyone that wants to work on a team as well.  I'll be playing WoW in the meantime.

Llyse and I had our match afterall  :awesome_for_real:

It went about as well as I expected, especially vs. Skaven.  The Skaven ran circles around the Norse, the +1 AGI blodging gutter runner basically carried the game, and much of the Norse's armor was broken, but mostly stunned results.  Still, the Norse and I had fun for our inaugural outing; my sole Runner managed to toss the ball successfully for a point before getting a MNG, and one of my werewolves got MVP.  That's.  About.  It.   :why_so_serious:

Yeah apologies on the MNG, my team is pretty shattered as well, I only had 1 Stormvermin and had 2 loner linerats.

Thanks to that game though I now have a shiny new Stormvermin to become injured but that's a rat's life.  :why_so_serious:

Pretty much what Luckton said but at least his werewolf is 1 spp from BLOCKRAGE.

Tokyo Drifto only need 2 more games to qualify for the Master's League so more games this weekend are welcome!

And I would accept the nomination.

Also, I have some free time this week while I'm on vacation, Llyse.  If you need a game or two and I'm on hit me up.  Likewise, Luckton; you know I'm usually game.  Especially against AV7 teams.   :drill:

I'll be available this Monday for any and all matches in the Feeder.

- (Orc) Blackrock and Roll (My heavy hitters)
- (Norse) Ymiron's G6 Crew (My up and coming light-weight hitters)
- (Halfling) Why not?  I might just kick your ass with them  :why_so_serious:

Will try and grab you Monday morning if I'm not too exhausted!

The Norse team humbly requests to face a NON-AGILITY-BASED team, in hopes that it may break their loosing streak.  Also, fuck Nuffle for double Attacker Down dice showing up no less than 6 times, and fuck Cyanide for allowing a level 5 Gutter Runner get perma-injured, apoth reroll to Badly Injured, and then just lets him play the rest of the match anyways.   :argh:  <- Actually did this after the match was over...I need an aspirin now.

Yeah, I'll make a nurgle team for you to beat up luckton.

In other sad news that game was unranked so my Skaven team still needs 2 more to qualify for Masters series  :heartbreak:

You could play more Orcs...they have some rank weight to them, if you can survive, of course.   :grin:

Apothecaries are supposed to allow badly hurts to return to play in subsequent drives. That's just how they roll.

Please mention here if there are teams I have to approve. I'm just not logging in to BB at all of late.

Applied with my Nurgle team.

Heh my rats will play their 10th game against your vaunted Blackrock and roll  :drill:

Can someone auth my Amazon team, please?

Done.

Might try and grab you for a game tonight Luckton say GMT +9 11pm so that's your morning if you still have Mondays off

Taking today (Tuesday) off as well, if anyone cares for a match.

If I'm going to slim my Orcs down for S6, I need money to hire new players to replace the ones I intend to fire.  To that end, if anyone wants to throw down this weekend, send me a message.

I just applied with my skaven and chaos team, i've only played the AI so far so i'd love to play a real opponent in the near future.

Away for a day or two so if Falc isn't about you'll have to wait until sat night I'm afraid.

Join the f13 BloodBowl group on Steam.  That'll give you friend contact info for all of us.  At that point, just hit us up whenever :)

If I'm on Steam I'm up for a game.  Chaos is my favorite side too so I can give you some pretty good tips; hopefully without looking pretentious.

Ping me on Steam (Catfud) for Feeder matches!

same here (Satael57 on steam)

actually, if I have steam group chat for f13 bloodbowlers open then I'm free to play a game in feeder league

I finally got around to applying with a bunch of teams, in case the organizer is wondering who the heck Kailas is.

Anyone around for a feeder league game or two this weekend?  :grin:

Yes.  ;D

Had 2 games with Mr Satael with my fresh Nurgle vs his Orcs.

Drew the first game 1-1 which is a funny game of bad luck for both playeres.

The 2nd game Satael won 2-0 taking advantage of the opportunities. Looking forward to playing more Feeder games with anyone!

Thanks to Ruvaldt and Llyse for really fun games this weekend.  :awesome_for_real:

Had a lot of fun.  Looking forward to many more.

Accepted a bunch of sides. Sorry for the delay.

Around for more feeder league games again this weekend (if I'm on steam then I'm interested in playing, even if I'm playing CK2)

Had another entertaining game (somewhat more entertaining for me) with DOOF DOOF HOUSE OGRES playing Satael's slowly skilling Orcs...

It was a bloody opening with Satael losing a catching goblin with Smashed collarbone. Satael decided to spend the apothecary but he ended up drilling a hole into his heart and killing him instead of mending the broken bone. A couple of turns later His Accurate thrower was killed by Fred FACESMASHER. The first half ended with a 1 - 0 score of the Ogres.

2nd Half was a bit more even but the Ogres did their job for most of their half KOing Orcs left and right. Satael got some revenge back killing a loner snotling and breaking another's back. The other notable event was all 4 ogres boneheading while listen to some sick Dubstep but the Orcs were very wary of getting their heads bashed in by their House listening bigger cousins.

DOOF DOOF Scores their first win!

Sorry about the permanent injuries Satael, You can kill some nurgles next time!

The Zevonators, my Warren Zevon themed Necromantic team, is ready for approval.

Approved.

Aaaarrrrroooooo werewolves of London!

Thank you, kindly.

I played Ingmar's Orcs this evening with my rookie Amazons and the result wasn't really representative of the game at all.

I kicked into pouring rain and the Orcs decided to give the ball back by throwing it into my half attached to a Goblin. Unfortunately for the little guy the Troll was feeling peckish and the Goblin just about managed to wriggle free before he was devoured. He landed badly though and spilt the ball which scattered to the edge of the Orc scrum. I blew a fireball on the Orc front line to no great effect and then made a mistake moving someone when I intended to blitz with them instead. I tried to recover by throwing a 1d block to clear the route to the ball that the blitz should have opened but rolled a skull which rerolled to a second skull and the Orcs were able to recover and cage up properly with no more fear of my Wizard. There were a few more turns of pushing and shoving until the Orcs decided that playing like Elves was the way forwards and threw the ball downfield to their waiting Goblin. Unfortunately the Amazons were nimble enough to intercept. They threw it back over the heads of the Orcs to a catcher deep in the Orc half but the throw was wide although it bounced out of reach of any of the Orcs. The Orcs blitzed the catcher who was in range of both the ball and the Orcish endzone but only got a push and the next turn she dodged past the Orc marking her, picked up the ball and made two GFIs to cross the line and open the scoring.

We set up again and the Orcs decided to keep trying to be Elves despite the rain and spilled another catch. With only two turns left to play, the Amazons concentrated on mugging any Orcs in scoring range rather than contesting the ball directly. The half ended with the Orcs failing another catch while trying for some quick SPPs.

The second half started poorly for the Amazons. Firstly a pitch invasion took down three of the girls and only one Orc, then the very first action was a block that came up skulls rerolled to skulls. In their second turn their first action was to pick the ball up that failed after burning another reroll and then in their third turn they again failed to pick the ball up with their last reroll. By this time the Orcs had pushed through the Amazon lines and had players on the ball. They knocked over the inept Amazon thrower and successfully grabbed the ball before setting off for the endzone. Unfortunately the Orc with the ball over-extended himself somewhat and slipped in the endzone. The crowd threw the ball back in close to a gaggle of Amazons in their own half and they were able to get to it and throw it to a waiting catcher. The throw wasn't straight and it landed on a different Amazon who fluffed the catch and knocked it into the hands of the catcher who'd been the original target. Never one to look a gift horse in the mouth, she trotted off towards the Orcish endzone as far as she could and out of reach of any of the Orcs before walking it over the line in her next turn.

For the last drive of the game, the Orcs attempted to score by throwing their Goblin with the ball at my endzone. The Troll wasn't hungry, the throw was good, the scatter was in the right direction but the Goblin didn't manage to land on his feet and dropped the ball. The Amazons swooped on the ball and failed to pick it up, then failed again in their next turn as well. Finally in their last turn of the game, they picked it up and threw it out of danger to deny the Orcs a consolation TD.

Ingmar couldn't get anything more than a KO on the girls despite a good number of knockdowns and, while my ball handling was pretty dire, it fell out right when it really mattered.

Once again looking to play a few matches in the feeder league today and tomorrow if someone feels like it  :awesome_for_real:

Once again looking for games this weekend  :why_so_serious: (WRC in town this weekend which means I have no interest in going outside)

Will try to ping you Sunday day so your Saturday night or Sunday morning

Just noticed you can set your status on steam to "Looking to Play" now (or atleast I didn't notice you could before). So if I'm looking to play it includes Blood Bowl  :grin:

My norse team has retired from serious business league and has applied to the feeder league - could someone push the button. tia.

Push some buttons for me too. 

Teams eggcepted.

Once again looking to play feeder league this weekend (between now and monday evening UTC)

I'll hit you up with my new Dwarf team perhaps :)

I'm around now if anyone cares for one.

New Dwarf team is off to a fair start.  I severely underestimated Lamaros' Chaos team (didn't realize it was his H&H team fully decked out in Claw/MB/Multi-Arm/Two-Heads, but managed to down his Minotaur with a casualty with a Slayer, who was also subsequently MNG'd, but picked up the MVP and leveled up.  The rest of the match went as one could imagine; Beasts beat down the dwarfs like nobody's business.  I mean seriously...I had maybe 5 dwarfs standing by the end of the game. 

The Dwarfs had a much fairer time against Satael's fresh Wood Elf team.  Elfish BS managed to keep the dwarf cage held back for a good chunk of the first half, but a bad GFI with no RRs left at turn 7 allowed me clear up a hole for my Runner to move up, pass off to a Blitzer and land the TD.

The Wood Elfs came back in the second half, punching a hole through my side and evading my sole blitzer's attempts to bring 'em down.  The Wodd Elfs scored, but no before having some players crowd-surfed or injured off the field.

With the score tied and 4 turns remaining, the Dwarfs received the ball from a generous kick to my center and began driving up the pitch right down the center.  With limited Elf-power on the field, the Dwarfs managed to plow a cage down the field much better than at the start, and by turn 15, with all of the Elfs lying in the injury box, KO box, or prone/stunned on the pitch, the Dwarfs ran it in again for their first victory.  Sadly, the merc that was provided to fill my MNG'd Slayer got the MVP  :argh:

I've applied to join, if I get accepted I am up for matches.

I have failed to receive any bribes, so I guess we will have to roll some dice...

And, you're in!

Anyone up for a game?

If I'm on steam and set to "looking to play" then I'm up for a game  :awesome_for_real:

I might be about this evening (British Summer Time)

I'm hanging around tonight without much to do, so if anybody is down, message me to play a feeder league game.

Going to be around a bit this morning (UK time), will set steam to looking to play.

Seems that GW2 is going to occupy my time for the near future but I still enjoy a good game of blood bowl (against a human opponent) even more so if anyone wants to play feel free to message me on steam even if I'm in GW2  :awesome_for_real:

Any chance of getting some teams accepted into the feeder league?

Done.

Thank you

The news that we can (probably) keep these teams going in Chaos Edition has inspired me to apply with an undead and dark elf team.  I hope they don't change their minds!

Will accept them now.

Anyone for a game?

I will likely be up for one tonight (UK time), poke me on steam

I played proutft's rookie Undead side with my Chaos bashers..

I ended up with 7 on the pitch, one who was a ring-in, and now have 6 players left in my team! I also bashed a lot of his guys, but they all regenerated. Crazy!

The blood!   

I think I like undead.   :awesome_for_real:

We did lose, but it was fun!

I think I might try entering a fresh team later tonight. It's weekend!  :grin:

Make more teams and apply for the league!

Just played my semi fresh nurgle against rk's humans and man I didn't deserve that lucky win. He held me to nil first half and would have scored if my Pestigors weren't monsters and pulling the double stars on safety 1 on 1 blitzes to prevent the score.

Second half I held him enough to slowly get some lucky injuries while Rk was down 2 key blitzers. I made 3 pick ups with no rerolls to win.

Watch out for this rookie!

Opted for the apoth instead of buying another lineman. I actually lost TV - this is a good thing - rite?  :awesome_for_real:

My underworld team is awaiting acceptance into the feeder league, also looking for matches this weekend if someone is interested in playing (if I'm on steam and not set to busy I'm ready to play even if I'm logged into GW2)

Soon as my download is done, I'll have a Chaos Dwarf team ready to rumble  :drill:

Will accept teams later today once my downloads are also completed.

All new teams accepted.

I went ahead and made 3 new teams (1 for each of the new races) and applied to the league.

Yeah, I've been messing around with Khorne single-player, and will probably just make one of each of the new teams tomorrow when I think of themes and apply them to the feeder league, and decide which to actually play later.

I applied with like a half-dozen teams, every possible team I could think I would ever want to play.   :grin:

Applied with a couple new teams that I will probably never play because they aren't elves.

Khorne vs. Ingmar Skaven, loss 1-2.  Khorne is WEIRD.  But fun... I think?

Applied with 3 new teams.

Hit me up on steam lads!

Pretty sure there are a whole bunch of teams waiting for approval.

Lies.

Who is lightfax?

Woo for approvals!

Played a game against Satael's fresh Khorne team vs my semi experienced Chaos team. Had an slightly strong start injurywise but this turned back on Satael's side with his Bloodletter getting 2 injuries and an MVP! My ball handling was atrocious and missed a TD with a GFI on the last turn of the first half.

0-0 draw, more games in feeder league to come!

Lightfax is a friend of mine who started playing.  He posted on the f13 bloodbowl steam group, but Ingmar & I told him no one reads that.

Submitted three teams.  First Ladies, The Derby Boys and The Razzle Dazzle.  Named after first ladies, Kentucky derby winning horses and famous magicians, respectively.  Their races don't matter; theme teams are the key to Blood Bowl mastery.

It is known.

I still haven't finished downloading CE because I am terrible, but if someone wants to try out any of these shiny new sides, feel free to ping me on steam.

Around this weekend so feel free to message me in steam for a game or two (even if I'm in GW2)  :grin:

Would hit you up but I'm out of action this weekend  :heartbreak:

Double post but keeping this thread alive, managed to fit two games with Satael my new Blood Bowl sparring partner.

One was a manly Beard field mirror match of Chaos Dwarves, the other was a skull ridden affair between rival Khorne teams.

The Chaos Dwarf match I was fortunate and ended up with a 1-1 draw but the Khorne match was a 2-0 win for the good guys. Good, fun, tough matches with Satael's Bloodletter living up to his name closing in on his 2 skill up after 2 matches...

He is definitely a sight to behold.

Please message me on Steam for games and I'll respond if I'm available! (And if I'm not I'll respond the next day with a heartfelt apology :heart:)

I really need to get some Blood Bowl time in over the Thanksgiving holiday.  I've got nine days off coming up; I might be looking to test out these new teams.

Once again looking to play a few games tomorrow or during the weekend  :grin:

if I'm on steam and not set to busy then I'm available to play (even if I'm in another game)

I applied to the feeder league with my new Chaos Dwarf team.  I had start a new account because I forgot my login in details with the old one.  Coach name is Ginaz74, team is Binders full of Centaurs.  Thanks.

Will be looking to get some games in this week now that the Christmass craze is done?

I'll be looking for games this week as well.  I need to build a new team unless I'm binging in the Emperors for next season.

I'm not at home, but I'll see if I can get online and approve teams in the next day or so.

Team approved.

so i must join this league, build the team up so i can join a future f13 tourney? or can i just drop any team i want at a later date?

You should make teams, join this league, and bug people on steam for matches, because it is an awesome thing to do and undeniably good for the soul. Never stop making and playing feeder league blood bowl teams.

As for the main league you can join with a fresh team or one that has played here. But your team will be stronger and you'll be a better player for having run out a few matches in the feeder league, which will likely make it more fun for everyone.

I'm not back to work until 14 Jan. so I'll have lots of time to play.  I am, however, at my parents for a few more days for Christmas and have been using their sub par laptop and crappy internet to play. I'll probably wait until I'm home this weekend to play online. 

I´ll be avaiable for some feeder games starting tomorrow (if I'm on steam and not set to busy then I'm most likely looking to play even if in some other game)

I'm up for some feeder games starting now if anyone else is.

im on gmt +8 so games are pretty rare for me . oh well.

Why this is good news! Will register a team when i get home tonight!

Register about 5 teams so you don't gave to wait for button pushers when want a change.

Make sure you individually name the players in each team in line with some "humorous" theme. This is important.

Anyone want a game? Poke me on steam please.

im not very creative, especailly with the av 7 pro elf... poked lamaros but no reply ; o well.

I don't think you got me. I don't seem to have you on my friends list.

lamaros is a bully.

Sadface.

Even bullies have feelings :D

AV 7 team is one of those bad rolls = fucked types.
guess i better switch to a more durable type if i wanna get somewhere.
2 quick KOs and it's pretty much gimp start.
Tried a pass, fucked up the catch.
O well.
One niggling linesman. Not sure what to do from this point. 60k to replace the guy or just move on and save up for better players.

Unless you have 4 catchers and 2 Blitzers already, don't bother replacing lineman. Just fire him since niggling is worse than loner rerolls

I applied under "Lumbering Hordes".

Available to play for the next 12 hours or so if anyone is interested  :grin:

Lets play !

whoa i keep forgetting about horns 4STR blitzs i recall losing the first game like that before. .oh well, still no luck with elves i guess. it seems like DE is the superior elves with better overall starting skills and positionals.

1-0 win with my Khorne cabal against RK's High elves.

Close intense match, but I think you're playing high elves like dark elves. Megrim knows better than me but I think with High Elves you want to bust a hole in the line then just rush receivers into my back field. Then your thrower makes a huge long bomb and scores rather than going for a slow crawl up the field.

Looking forward to more games and fixing my ports to play Satael  :awesome_for_real:

Found out that reseting my router ("hard" enough to kill all connections etc and not just a quick one where some stuff doesn't time out) sometimes helps with the problem on my end so we could try it again when you have the time  :grin:

High elves are definitely geared more toward passing.  Dark elves are definitely geared more toward rushing.  Being elves though they are capable of any kind of occasional bullshit.

If you're a coach who feels more comfortable bashing, dark elves will be pretty natural for you.  Their strength is their blitzers, but the side still suffers from a lack of STR for reliable blocking until you get some guard or a lot of luck on level-ups.

Yeah I get it. The 4 Catchers roster limit was there for a reason, but funds are tight, and I really felt the low rerolls made a lot of risky play not worth it to execute.
Even the thrower wasn't really getting much of a bonus when executing a pass. Safe pass is more of a 'if you fail, you can try again next turn' - not a 'You can try again to succeed'

High elves are a nice versatile side with a lot of room for useful development, but they do look a little iffy next to Dark Elves. This is probably because DEs are arguably the strongest team in the game, more than anything especially wrong with HEs. I think pro elves and woodies have the better starting offenses, pretty clearly, but AV 8 on all the linemen will make a big difference in your ability to keep a similar number of guys on the field to your opponent.

Couple of teams submitted for approval, from me. ty.

Just beat Megrim's semi new Dwarf team with my old and badly picked Orc team

Llyse, Megrim.  Train me.

Soon as you make teams and get them in the League your rigourous Korean Progaming training schedule will begin

:( mine still not approved for entry yet.
 I suppose I shd just reroll

or fuck it.
Llyse - Satael, let's play non feeder with my team.
If that disqualifies me, I don't give a fuck.  :why_so_serious:

No way, not giving you an excuse to not sign up for the League,

People will be harassed into approving your fresh meat

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Fuck it. I'll just play Auld World.  :why_so_serious:

Create Account.  Make Amazon team.  Find f13 Feeder league.  "Apply for League" -> "You must select your team first".  Open up the "My Teams" tab in the bottom left, there are no teams.  Go back to Profile, I can see my Amazon team.  Go back to League screen.  Open up the "My Teams" tab in the bottom left, there are no teams.  Log out, Log back in, repeat.  Nada.

Remembered why I stopped playing this game.

All new teams are now automatically in the Auld league so you have to leave that to apply for some other league  :ye_gods: (stupid thing which they didn't really advertise when they changed that)

Oh, what a weird change.

This has been a very honorable conversation!

Who can approve besides Falc and Lamaros? Do we need to add someone in a US time zone?

I nominate Ruv.

I would do it.  I love the Feeder League.

I demand another Oceania member be added, and I gladly volunteer for this opportunity for corruption and white collar crime  :awesome_for_real:

Sorry, I've been busy and haven't got on my computer for a few weeks. Will try approve teams tonight.

Boom, teams accepted.

yay.

2 teams waiting for acceptance whenever you have the time  :grin:

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wants more matches. hit me up on steam in 7-8 hours time if you're up for it.
Not now though, I'm going to go to bed soon.

Teams accepted. Also I may be around for a game later today!

Thanks  :awesome_for_real:

Anyone up for a game?

A complete newcomer here. Blame rk47 for my presence.
Just rolled up a Norse team as I've never played those before, and I wouldn't mind enrolling for the feeder league. :salute:

Coach name AziraDK, team name Loud and smelly!
Need my steam name as well? I think I appear there as "Azira"

There is exactly 1 spot left in the main league if you want to post in the s7 thread.

Just did so. Now the interesting thing is to see if I can actually find the time to play the matches required..

Anyone give me a feeder game? I really need em!

Had another nice hit out with an old Chaos team against Megrim's Underworld. Score ended 0-0 but very helpful at getting rid of the rust and caveats of Cyanide UI.

Get cracking people!

If I'm set to "looking to play" (or playing gw2) in steam then I'm up for feeder games (I have a newbie chaos team for normal games and a goblin team if someone is playing stunty. My team for season 7 has already joined the season league so it's not available)

I'm still waiting on approval of my application to the feeder league. How long is the wait usually?

Your team was added!

Keen for a game if anyone is about.

Thanks for adding my team.  :thumbs_up:

I plan on being online and available for a game, maybe two, later today. I'm on central european time though, and I have two young children that need be tucked in for the night first, so in approximately 8 hours and 20 minutes from the moment I post this. That's when I expect to be available for you to maim my team (seriously, not a good player here).

Get online and bash my Norse team. I suck at this game, but maybe I'll get lucky and get some decent skillups.  :awesome_for_real:

Joining the "f13 bloodbowlers"-steam group makes finding games for feeder league alot easier (and I'm available to play right now if someone is interested)

Joined the group, noone but me in the chatroom and I seem unable to send you a message. Is that because I've not added you as a friend?
Anyhow, online for a while yet with my Norse team, hoping to get a feeder league match.

You should be able to see us from your Friends window in Steam.  If you click to expand the friends window, and then click the Groups tab you should be able to expand the f13 Bloodbowlers out and see all of us who are online.

I can see those online well enough, but maybe it's the introverted and well-behaved person in me, - but should I just start pestering each and every one of you until I stumble upon one who'd do a feeder league match with me, or is there some visible marker that paints a person available for a match?

Click the drop down arrow next to your name and set yourself as "Looking to Play."  Also, yeah, just send people messages.  I used to do that all the time.  Send Satael a message, he just said he was interested in a game upthread.

Edit: That's weird.  Looks like he hasn't been online in a while even though he posted that.

I am (and was) online and played a game against Azira  :grin:

Just start pestering.

Anyone online is fair game, whatever they are doing is not going to be as important as blood bowl.

I am usually ok to be pestered for a game. It's just that I'm often stuck in ~1 hour dota games, or playing Civ5 or Planetside, or Path of Exile, or a billion other things....  :grin:

Don't forget the goats, Meg.

Oh wow, Codexian with manners, Azira, stay with F13, leave those anti-social losers in their own forum.  :awesome_for_real:

The codex is interesting to watch. And I've become somewhat attached to that belligerent den of miscreants, so I'm not likely to actually leave them. Besides, my registration on that forum stretches back to 2004.

Why not have both?  :why_so_serious:

My Norse team sadly passed away due to massive desertation after our sound defeat last night.
Instead, a team of orcs have stepped up to the plate, willing to let me coach them (poor sods).

"Trippul A" has applied to the Feeder League.  ;D

Teams accepted, apart from Bloodhound as I don't know who that is.

anyone for a feeder game?

Played two games with rk, won one killing Whitewolf the maiming, frenzying, blitzer with my Undead team.

Had a rematch where my greed and arrogance gave rk a win instead of a draw but it's great to work off that rust. I'll be a sharp implement of sorts come Day 1 motherfuckers  :drill:

rk now has a level 3 Blitzer with dodge and another skill though...  :ye_gods:

I killed two of Lamaros' players last time we played. Feel free to ask me for a game!

I couldn't sleep last night.  :sad_panda:

Lamaros - applied feeder league with an ork team.  when you're able please accept!

Someone gimme a game!

Team accepted.

Also, I made Ruvaldt a commissioner so he can accept teams too.

Cool.  Thanks, Lamaros.

can you approve my team :]

If anyone wants to play a cobweb removing game now the fervour of S#7 is on us, let me know on steam.

Anyone for a feeder game in the next hour or two? Steam me!

Sadly I'm still at work... Next time!

Sheesh, get a new job!

Anyone around now - steam me!

Attempting to smash Lamaros' confidence now  :why_so_serious:

1-1 draw between my Underworld team and Lamaros' battered Goatse. A close match where both players took major risks leading to a draw.

Sounds very familiar.  :awesome_for_real:

I thought Id give him a gimme TD and just focus on killing things, gotta share the SP around.

I'm keen, again!

looking to play (for the next 12 hours or so)  :grin:

Me want game, again!

Thanks for the game satael!

Keen again! I'm a maniac!

You bastards :( Why is no one else addicted to bb like me?

Move to a real time zone and we could play every night.  :drill:

Because Real Life©

I play when I should be sleeping: you too could make that sacrifice.

Keen.

Disappointingly lamaros is not online.

Someone ping me on steam for some bloodbowl.

Hello world. Game?

I'm here now!

Game anyone? Steam me.

Thanks to Satael for sitting through 'one of those games' as my Nurgle out-chaosed his Chaos squad.

Having all your chaos warriors sidelined doesn't really make for a fun game.

If anyone else is around and would like to play some blood bowl - they should ping me on steam.

You need to be up later/earlier.

I am always keen!

Anyone?  :awesome_for_real:

+1

+1

Was finally home to play a friendly with Lamaros, Chaos Dwarves vs Khorne.

Man Chaos Dwarves are strong.

Submitted a Chaos Dwarf team for the feeder league, if somebody would like to approve it.

Done!

Thunder stealer...

I'm around alll day today if anyone wants a game.

pm me for more blood bowl in the next few hours.

Also, another team submitted - please be pushing the button.

Approved.

Blood bowl?

As well as pinging me for blood bowl now, Frobozz people (you know who are) should be getting in touch and playing your masters league match. Skara Brae is finished already.

Yeah I'm gonna start harrassing Luckton and Megrim now.

In "bug I've never seen before" news, the lizards of Nerve Damage managed to take to the field with 12 players against Llyse's beastmen this morning. Both coaches counted the lizards a couple of times to check we weren't going insane, then shrugged and played some blood bowl. (Nerve Damage won 1-0)

The situation was quickly resolved by one of the beastmen punching a skink really hard in the face.

I had that happen once. I just had the extra guy sit in the corner and we pretended he wasn't there.

Aye ive had it happen a few times. I sit one out in that manner.

Elfish Presleys are looking to be approved into the feeder league  :grin:

Accepted.

Anyone looking to blood their bowl today - message me on steam.

Me too!

Thanks again for Satael for sitting through one of my sides annhilate one of his.

The injury dice do not like his elves.

I think I owe you a game against my halflings!

When a game opens with a blitz that allows your opponent to smash (not alot of smashing since I was playing elves) through to receive the kickoff and you have a player die on turn 2 (or 3) you know you are in for a world of hurt.  :ye_gods:

Anyone about for a game?

If anyone is up for a game in the next little bit you know where to find me!

New team for feeder league waiting for approval (hopefully one that lasts more than 1 game)  :grin:

Make more teams!

That way you don't run out.

Approved.  I also approved Fildrigar's new team.

Looking to play today, tomorrow and on thursday  :grin:

The Jade Crusade, my unbeaten goblin team, is now up to 18th in this competition.

What this means is, you are all pussies who do not play enough blood bowl feeder league.

I should really start naming and shaming serious business league regulars who do not have a feeder league team that outranks my goblins.

Thanks to Satael for a couple more matches this evening.

Underworld are decidedly odd.

Thanks to Eldaec and Lamaros for fun feeder league games this week  :awesome_for_real:

Looking for any blood bowl opponents over the next few hours.

Still on holiday. Soon, soon

Hmm, what do you take on a norse thrower normal roll who has Block, Pass, +1 STR, Tackle, Sure Hands, he has access to General and Passing.

Halfway serious options:

Fend
Leader
Nerves of Steel
Kick off return
Strip Ball

Fend or Strip Ball, Nerves of Steel - how often do you pass?

I prefer Fend though

Fend or KOR.

I just put a couple of fresh teams into the feeder league in preparation for the D&M Open. I'd appreciate the commish pushing the button on them whenever possible.

With the +ST & Tackle he looks more like a safety, so I'd go with Strip Ball.

Approved IainC and Avaia's teams.

There were some teams from coaches I didn't recognize though, and they weren't approved.  If you are Johnny United, joynesstown, or John Hardballs, please speak up!

John Hardballs sounds like he's on Sjofn's Norse team.

Looking to play a game or two this week (if I'm on steam and not set to busy then I'm looking to play)  :grin:

I might be up for a late night game at some point, but not tonight. Not going to play my D&M team at all, going in fresh for a LP, but I have other miscellanous things for people to beat up.

Likewise, will be on the ping

If your coach name is CANNIBOWLS speak up now.  I see you have a team that has applied for the Feeder League, but I don't approve anyone unless they are f13 posters.

I've submitted an Elf team for the D&M open. Would someone be so kind as to tick the application.

Is done!

I approved some teams that had applied here. Who knows how long ago?