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Title: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Nonentity on January 18, 2010, 01:14:52 PM http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/61977
Quote Flagship's ill-fated post-Apocalyptic MMORPG Hellgate: London will relaunch in North America, HanbitSoft announced today after securing the worldwide publishing rights. The publisher picked up the rights from the action RPG's North American and European publisher Namco Bandai, who had continued running Hellgate's servers for several months after Flagship's demise but ultimately shut them down in February, 2009. HanbitSoft has continued to develop and operate Hellgate: London in South Korea and recently launched a revamped version with a free-to-play option under the name of Hellgate: Resurrection. The publisher says this will be rolled out this year, "starting with China, Taiwan, and South East Asia followed by North America, Europe, and Japan." Flagship's other MMORPG 'Mythos'--which was only ever playable in closed beta--is also slated for a US release courtesy of Hanbitsoft's fellow T3 Entertainment subsidiary Redbana, who are planning to make the fantasy action RPG free-to-play. Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Signe on January 18, 2010, 01:29:46 PM Oh good. I still miss this game. I never even deleted it from my computer.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Cheddar on January 18, 2010, 02:07:58 PM Totally awesome, I cannot wait! :heart:
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Ingmar on January 18, 2010, 04:34:16 PM I never got to try Mythos, I am intrigued.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Nonentity on January 18, 2010, 06:01:22 PM Hellgate was the only game I have ever played with :vv:, I believe.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: lesion on January 18, 2010, 06:39:26 PM brrrrrg
vzzzzp nqqqqt *reinstall* Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Signe on January 18, 2010, 07:18:22 PM Hellgate was the only game I have ever played with :vv:, I believe. That's you, that is. You made that. So you played with yourself! HA! Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Tannhauser on January 19, 2010, 03:39:19 AM I never played this in it's 'glory days' may give it a try, loot looks interesting.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Nightblade on January 19, 2010, 08:40:40 PM I never played this in it's 'glory days' may give it a try, loot looks interesting. Er... This game had "Glory Days"? Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Cheddar on January 19, 2010, 09:00:03 PM I never played this in it's 'glory days' may give it a try, loot looks interesting. Er... This game had "Glory Days"? Yes. It was very well liked by the f13 community. It was fun with random loots, but lack of updates killed it. Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Hawkbit on January 19, 2010, 09:59:30 PM Splitting your playerbase into subs and non-subs is more likely what killed it, at least imo.
I know that I didn't like it enough to pay monthly for it and I didn't like seeing other people that paid $50 for the box have access to shit I didn't. If not for that, I'd likely have played it for months instead of three weeks. Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Typhon on January 20, 2010, 07:44:37 AM The hub and spoke design of the game seems tailor made for DLC. Throw in some free content from time to time to keep your non-paying audience returning (to give people someone to play with).
That's the current wisdom, anyway. How is Borderlands doing? Seems like Hellgate (other than being fully online, and a FAR friendlier mulitplayer experience) and Borderlands could have had a similar business model except for the fact that the Hellgate folks had to manage data centers. If Borderlands is doing good enough to support continued development and sustain data centers, maybe Hellgate could have worked like that. Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Lantyssa on January 20, 2010, 08:11:47 AM Borderlands has a separate problem in that its non-LAN multiplayer is a pain in the arse.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Typhon on January 20, 2010, 09:06:34 AM Yeah, I alluded to that with, "other than being fully online, and a FAR friendlier mulitplayer experience".
A frequent point made about Borderlands is - it's MUCH more fun with a group of friends, which was my experience as well. If getting into a group was less painful, doubtless Borderlands would have sold better (I think it sold pretty well as it is). IMO, Hellgate crashed and burned due to financial reasons (queue f13.poster.X to correct me that Hellgate crashed because "it sucked!, jackass!") - they didn't have enough cash to create enough time to create enough content to maintain a subscription model (wow that sentence sucked). But hell, even WoW doesn't have enough content to maintain everysubscription, but since they made a shitload of money they have plenty of time. Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Morfiend on January 20, 2010, 02:41:17 PM I never played this in it's 'glory days' may give it a try, loot looks interesting. Er... This game had "Glory Days"? Yes. It was very well liked by the f13 community. It was fun with random loots, but lack of updates killed it. I don't know about "very well liked". I remember Schild frothing over it a bit, but a lot of us could see the potential for the game to go both ways. I also don't think it was the subscription model that killed it. It was the utter buggyness, crap character design and skills that made no sense and where completely unbalanced that killed it. Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Signe on January 20, 2010, 05:23:35 PM It would have done much better had they put in splitting stacks earlier. I really believe that.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Yegolev on January 21, 2010, 06:26:13 AM I don't know about "very well liked". I remember Schild frothing over it a bit, but a lot of us could see the potential for the game to go both ways. I also don't think it was the subscription model that killed it. It was the utter buggyness, crap character design and skills that made no sense and where completely unbalanced that killed it. Well-spoken. It was a pile of shit. It would have done much better had they put in splitting stacks earlier. I really believe that. Further proof. This is just a symptom of the underlying problem of DURRR that lay at the core of Hellgate. Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Signe on January 21, 2010, 08:22:16 AM I liked it. It made me feel tough.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Yegolev on January 21, 2010, 03:51:17 PM It made me feel like I was trying to have fun through a cardboard box.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Signe on January 21, 2010, 06:06:21 PM The things I think I liked the most were the sounds my guns made, especially when reloading and the outfits were very nice. That's mostly what I look for in games these days. Nice clothes and cool noises. Looking much beyond those is very nearly almost always disappointing.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Furiously on January 31, 2010, 02:29:32 AM Me too Signe (regarding the outfits and cool sounds - we're gonna rock APB!)
Also I think it's on my hard drive too... but mostly because you need the original disks to remove it for some stupid reason. Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Yegolev on February 02, 2010, 09:04:07 PM Just last week I found the beta files on one of my hard disks and deleted them.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: schild on February 02, 2010, 09:24:07 PM Just last week I found the beta files on one of my hard disks and deleted them. Cool story bro. Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Yegolev on February 03, 2010, 12:00:23 PM I am very tired.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Ratman_tf on February 03, 2010, 04:32:32 PM I'm kinda interested to see HGL get a second shot. I'm also concerned with how Hanbitsoft is gonna treat the IP.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Yegolev on February 03, 2010, 05:20:22 PM I'm also concerned with how Hanbitsoft is gonna treat the IP. Really? Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: schild on February 03, 2010, 05:39:25 PM lol. The IP, right, because it's just caked in gold.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Ratman_tf on February 03, 2010, 09:14:05 PM I'm also concerned with how Hanbitsoft is gonna treat the IP. Really? Yup. I rather like the setting. I'm hoping they don't smush the tone of the post demon-apocalypse world. And I also hope they don't throw the randomized levels and loot out for more static stuff. In short, I hope they don't change the game too much and lose what I liked in the first place. Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Yegolev on February 04, 2010, 10:15:55 PM OK, when you say "IP" I think of the setting, lore and so on. Personally, I think it would improve the game if they added neon ninjas, but I didn't find the setting unique enough to attach any significance to it. I'm also not sure why I wouldn't just reinstall Titan Quest.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: schild on February 04, 2010, 11:03:00 PM Hellgate, as an IP, is worth... well, probably not much. Pennies on the dollar of what it probably cost to make, IP would be thrown in as a bonus.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: ghost on February 05, 2010, 07:20:01 PM I figure they'll be making a movie soon.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Yegolev on February 07, 2010, 05:00:02 PM (http://www.best-horror-movies.com/image-files/uwe-boll-german-garb.jpg)
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Samwise on February 07, 2010, 05:50:59 PM Do the lifetime subs carry over to this new incarnation?
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: schild on February 07, 2010, 06:54:59 PM That would be... funny. I can't wait to see how they RMT this up.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: stu on February 10, 2010, 01:11:15 AM HG:L paperbacks are still going for eight bucks a pop on Amazon. They must be terrific to hold that sort of value! Since the game disappeared before I could play the first time around, maybe I should brush up on the lore. :why_so_serious:
(Just read a few pages from an excerpt. The Halo books are better haha) Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: schild on February 10, 2010, 02:10:15 AM But is it better than the Wraeththu saga?
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: stu on February 10, 2010, 09:57:22 AM All I know is I get drizzle on my monitor each time I say that out loud.
edit: Okay. Storm Constantine. Wraeththu is probly better since it's obviously written by a dark mage or something. Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: schild on February 10, 2010, 11:10:42 AM You'd think so, with a name like that.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Signe on February 25, 2010, 01:48:14 PM So, since people were talking about this game, I sort of missed it. Luckily, I was able to download it off of EA from when I bought it, and the patch (which you definitely need) is still out there. Evidently, I didn't have it on this newer computer and didn't bother retrieving it from the fried one. Still, if you don't have the game and fancy trying the single player, you can have it for like $8 off Amazon. Of course, you don't get all the nifty keen bits that were in the multiplayer test server game, but I still like it.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Ratman_tf on February 25, 2010, 04:36:38 PM So, since people were talking about this game, I sort of missed it. Luckily, I was able to download it off of EA from when I bought it, and the patch (which you definitely need) is still out there. Evidently, I didn't have it on this newer computer and didn't bother retrieving it from the fried one. Still, if you don't have the game and fancy trying the single player, you can have it for like $8 off Amazon. Of course, you don't get all the nifty keen bits that were in the multiplayer test server game, but I still like it. I got more mileage out of HGL than most other PC games. Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: waffel on May 26, 2010, 12:34:43 PM So I dug out my old Hellgate London DVDs the other day and installed it. I'm actually having a decent time with it again. It does suck pretty bad that I can't play with my friend who did the same thing, but hopefully the re-release isn't as bad I suspect it is. (I never once enjoyed a game with an item shop)
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Signe on May 26, 2010, 04:58:23 PM Yeah, do we really still think it's re-releasing? Should it take this long for a game that's already a game?
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: lesion on May 26, 2010, 08:56:37 PM If I ignore it everything will be just fine.
Title: Re: Arise, Hellgate! Arise! (Free-to-play Hellgate coming to the States) Post by: Furiously on June 23, 2010, 08:25:10 PM I'm thinking.... no at this point.
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