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If you aren't watching this, you should be.

Kind of dry, but I like the stereotypes.

It looked good, I just keep forgetting its on.  I suppose I should just do the modern thing and hulu/ download it.

You don't like fun, do you? There's so many awesome characters in this show.

It sucks that Fringe is on the wrong night.  So I watch Fringe, and hulu Office and Community.  

I think this is an example of a show that would be normally be mediocre but the talent of cast makes it good.

This show is getting unreasonably good, it's actually kind of odd.

Why?

I have always thought Joel McHale was hilarious. Chevy Chase isn't overused (a little of him goes a very long way these days), the girls are ridiculously easy on the eyes, and it is funny as hell. I wish it had a later time slot so it could be a bit edgier though.

I generally operate under the assumption that most comedies on TV are going to be horrible, and those that aren't are going to be cancelled soon.

I think it's double when the show is created to dovetail either before or after an already established comedy that I like.

The halloween episode was one of the funniest things I've ever seen on tv. 

Still surprised this show is as good as it is. 

This. I'm worried people may get tired because Abed seems to carry a good portion of the shows comedy.

Fuck you.  Senor Chang is the star of the show!

Eh? The Batman and alien things were pretty funny but I don't think he carries a good portion at all.  Admittedly they've quarantined off some humor to attract more women to the show, but for the most part I'm finding everyone pretty funny, especially Chang and the black guy from Derrick Comedy.

This show is great, its a bonus that its quite funny because the two romantic will they will they leads would be enough to suck me in.  Everything else is icing.

I love that the chick from Mad Men (Pete's wife Trudy) is on this show. I always laugh when I watch it, so that means win for me.

Allison Brie is hot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxdbuuVGdS0

This officially my favorite show on television. Which means the dolts at NBC will cancel it any day now.

Have you checked out Donald Glover's Derrick Comedy stuff? It's pretty good:

http://www.derrickcomedy.com/videos/



EDIT: I guess I should point out that these videos are generally NSFW.

Thanks for that.

Renewed for a second season (http://www.nbc.com/news/2010/03/05/nbc-gives-pickups-to-thursday-night-comedies-30-rock-the-office-and-community-for-2010-11/). I was terrified NBC was going to fuck this up and cancel them for another hospital drama or reality show. Yay!

Yesterdays episode had me laughing so hard I nearly had a fit, a thing that is rare these days.

The billiards episode destroys even the Halloween episode.  So good.

Tonight's episode was awesome.  I think Way needs to switch out Forest Whitaker Eye for Crazy Pharaoh.

Sauced wanted to watch Good Fellas after last Thursday's episode.  :awesome_for_real:

If anyone else was doing this stuff, it be trite and annoying.  Somehow Community does it awesome.

Last night's paintball tournament episode was brilliant.

They sure have made this show all about Joel McHale being shirtless.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

This show is streets ahead of anything else on TV.

You can't just say streets ahead and make it into something.

"...Big boobs, medium boobs, and black boobs..."

Chevy rules on this show. Amazingly, they even managed to breathe some life into the love triangle (or quadrangle?) trope. I hope they can keep it going for a few more years.

Just have to say....

Never watched this show before, and then I caught one of the Community marathons last week.  The paintball episode sold me.  This show is amazingly funny, and I'll be catching up with it on DVD.

You won't be sorry. And I am willing to bet the DVD commentaries will be equally amusing. Dan Harmon is clinically insane, but in a completely hilarious way.

Please tell me I am not the only one still watching this. It is the funniest thing on TV. Last night's episode was sublime.

My favorite show on network television.  It's a crime that Outsourced is getting more viewers, sheerly by virtue of it following The Office.

It was great.  Donald Glover is the funniest guy on television right now.   "You hit a lady bee!"

I'm going to have to watch it again. I was smiling inwardly and praising the references, without actually laughing at very many of the jokes.

I don't know if it was just too much too fast, or if I'm more a fan of the "normal" episodes than of the out-and-out parodies, or what.

In the DVD commentaries for the paintball episode, someone (Dan Harmon maybe) said something along the lines of: "We can do episodes like this because of all the story and character building episodes that came before." I think maybe a few more eps that feature story and character should happen before the next space-simulator or zombie attack.

Or hell, maybe I was uncomfortable because I was actually watching it on TV, instead of the NBC site.

Very entertaining episode.  I lost it when Abed as the Alien and Troy as the mech-thing showed up. 

"Go!  Be the first black man to survive until the end!"
"I love you, Abed."


It feels like the writers are pulling back on making it the Jeff Winger show.  Last season, he was pretty much the main character.  Also liked Britta as a T-Rex Dragon-turtle as a call back to how she feels about sexy halloween costumes.

Pierce as Kirk was hilarious, though it can't really touch his Beastmaster costume last year (complete with stuffed ferret!)

Still watching and loving it.

(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5475/anniei.gif)

Faces so perfect.

It's going to be a maze!

So awesome.

Pics of Robo-Abed's targeting view, blatantly stolen from elsewhere:

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6404/comm1.png (http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6404/comm1.png)

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6641/comm2.png (http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/6641/comm2.png)

http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/3286/comm3.png (http://img573.imageshack.us/img573/3286/comm3.png)

Memos:

Sell group on paintball sequal.   :awesome_for_real:

Spoiler from last night's episode:

Ahh, I feel better now. Cooperative Calligraphy was just what the doctor ordered. This one pushed all my Community-fan buttons. Best episode of the season so far, imo. I've already watched it four times.

My S1 disks were delivered yesterday. Have gotten through 2 of the commentaries so far and they are so much fun. Dan Harmon is a god.

Last night's episode is my new favorite go-to Christmas episode of anything. Classic.

At first I really hated it, but then I got into it, and was near tears at the end. It is a fantastic goddamned show.

The last few episodes showed that that cast can do almost anything, drama, comedy, emotion, clay puppetry.

I also never knew we needed a christmas pterdodactlyl but now I don't want Christmas without one anymore.

Just recently got into this show.  It's very good but if they lost the blonde and CC I wouldn't cry.  Xmas special was really great I agree.  It got a little dusty in my house...

OMG. AD&D ep was spectacular. It even made me want to get a game going again! I loved the old school DMG they were using...I miss those days.

That was a great, surprisingly intense episode.  This show has a lot of heart.  Annie's roleplaying was hilarious. 

How often does a show have to be awesome before it's considered a classic?

Absolutely hysterical episode and amazingly well done. 

Pretty much the best episode since the zombie one.

What would Dan Harmon do.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvujiTETIwM)

I'm Dan Harmon and I shit gold. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rTetlYeZ18&feature=related)

Changs face after the light: funniest thing ever.

Just watched the DnD episode on a whim...wow. :drill:

I watched the first couple of episodes when this came out, and I really think they screwed up in putting an episode really heavily focused on Chevy Chase right at the beginning, cuase it really turned off my interest in the show. I kept meaning to try to go watch it again, but no one had the DVDs and I couldn't be bothered to hunt down the torrents.

Then Netflix.ca suddenly added all of Season 1 last week. I am now eight or nine episodes in, and am very sad that I waited this long. This stupid show is pure joy.

I suspect (I have no source for this) that making the Chevy episode the first one after the pilot was to try and draw in viewers. Since he was the only one in the cast with any kind of exposure/history to a broad audience. (Unless you count Joel McHale working on the Soup).

If (like me) you are obsessive enough to listen to the commentaries on the DVDs, you will learn that their early plan was to have the first six episodes alternate which of the group members got put in a story with Jeff. So having Chevy featured heavily in an early episode was done deliberately.

Does Netflix have the commentaries? If not, they are totally worth the price of purchase themselves. They do commentaries for every single episode and are very entertaining. S2 should be even better- they probably have a better feel for the audience (and can cater their comments to that segment), and the episodes this season have been even wackier, which should make for some fun behind the scenes stories.

Not to be too much of a shill, but the S1 DVD's have tons of extras.
- the above-mentioned commentaries, for every episode
- each of the 4 discs has a blooper reel (from the episodes contained on each disc)
- mini-episodes (the study breaks)
- mock post-season cast interviews
- the valentine's episode, "Communication Studies", is on there twice. Once as it was broadcast, and once more with several minutes of cut footage edited back in. Harmon said they picked that ep for this treatment, because it was by far the one that had the most content cut for time.

There might be something I'm forgetting, but the above extras are more by far than I've seen on a DVD for any other movie or tv show.

Still not available on Netflix (US). WTF?

Eh, we still have 4 seasons of Lost (yeah, 7 years late to the party ;)) queued up…

Just watch the first and last seasons of Lost.  The rest is filler.

I'm someone else waiting for Community on Netflix.  :heartbreak:

Seriously, you can find the 1st season of Community for $20 nearly anywhere, and it's now $17 on Amazon....  and that counts (as people have said) a metric shitton of great bonus materials.  Just buy the DVDs already!  You'll be happy you own them.

Not many shows are as rewatchable as Community. 

The biggest disappointment of Community is Chevy though and I explicitly don't say Pierce. You can feel that he isn't part of the cast and that he doesn't see himself to be part of the cast. He doesn't bring anything to Pierce that makes you care he exists and he get's routinely out-classed and out-acted by every other cast member including Joel McHale, which never struck me as a particularly good actor but improved quite a bit over the course of two seasons.

At panels he always wants to be the center of attention and the rest of the cast is simply much more funny and together when he's not around.

Even so, Community is exactly that kind of brilliant TV that will get cancelled before its time. It has given us a lot of brilliant masterpieces with Modern Warfare probably being the best parody I've ever seen.

As they point out in episode as "the study group works because they're united against Pierce", the show works because Chevy's character is there to make everyone else look better.  A major reason Jeff is as sympathetic a character as he is, despite being a douche about half the time, is that he is the "dad" who everyone else turns to when Pierce gets out of hand.

His purpose is to be the regular cause of conflict in the group that the other characters can play off of.  He can get away with it, because he is a slightly crazed sad old man. 

Pierce still can be fucking hilarious.  He was one of the main reasons the D&D episode was so good ("Cast a shapechange" "What shape?" "FAAAAAATTTT")


Community will be around at least another season.  That is pretty much guaranteed.  Ratings aren't great, but they are in a tough slot competing against Big Bang Theory (which is a hit, and a sitcom)...  I think the DVD sales were pretty good as well.

Community was renewed for season 3, along with the Office, Parks & Rec, and 30 Rock.

The rumor is that they will be doing a 2 part Paintball episode this year, riffing on Westerns.

Heh, last night Abed distributed hoodies to commemorate the paintball game that said "All downhill from here" on the back.

This past week was Critical Film Studies, which included (among other things) a Pulp Fiction themed birthday party.

I won't say more, but Gillian Jacobs dressed as Miss Mia Wallace was crazy delicous.

She is adorable. I strayed from her to Alison Brie in the middle of last season, but I am back in her camp for good now. Unless Alison Brie does a nude scene or something.

The episode last night was amazing. It's also helped by the fact that Allison Brie's outfit is smoking hot.

For those who missed it, it's online now. 

http://www.nbc.com/community/video/a-fistful-of-paintballs/1325272/

Every week I am amazed at the quality of this show. It is setting the bar for 22 minute comedies.

Annie god DAMN  :heart:

Last nights episode was seriously awesome and I think we need that scene of Annie running down the hall as some sorta gif.

(http://i.imgur.com/Kv33r.gif)

That was some seriously fun shit.  They put so much good stuff in this episode I'm surprised it doesn't collapse under its own weight of awesomeness.  Part two can't come soon enough.  I want to talk about certain bits, but all the bits were great so I'll just stop typing now.

Oh and Alison Brie is smokingggg, but you already knew that.

Josh Holloway needs to be leading man in a TV series.

Troy's costume :heart:

I had to point that out to my friend at work.

The best part of "A Fistful of Paintballs"?  It uses the cinematography of The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly...  though it might just be for anyone dressed as a Clint Eastwood character.  Jeff, Abed, and the Black Rider are the characters that pull the off-screen teleport the most.





The followup was good as well, though not to the level of the first part.

Thoughts on next season?  There are rumors that Chevy Chase is awful to work with...  could he be out while Chang is in to play the in-group antagonist?  Or a return to status quo?

It wouldn't surprise me that Chevy is a pain to work with as it's quite apparent he's gotten bitter and angry as he's gotten older.  He's always had a kind of angry edge to him, but ever since the talk show failed it's come front and center when you see him in anything.  (Just MHO.)

While I'm not a fan of the show, the few I've watched have been fantastic but I don't think Chang could replace Chevy as the group's antagonist.  Chase IS that angry assbag while Chang only acts it brilliantly*.


* Small aside for a great anecdote I heard about Ken Jeong. Apparently being naked in The Hangover was his idea, and he filmed all of his scenes within a few days because his wife was severely ill while dealing with Breast Cancer at the time.  Rather than break his contract he flew out and did the shoot before returning home.

Harmon has said he wants to get Chang back into a position of power next season. I liked him a lot better as a villain instead of a pathetic hanger on. And I would be SHOCKED if Chevy is going anywhere.

I don't know. I don't like Chang, at all. I don't even like the guy playing him. They should just let Ken Yeong go. We have weird covered with the Dean and Chang is only funny in very small doses.

I'm also not on board with all the Dani Pudi love. He simply can't deliver anything that doesn't sound disaffected which is probably fine if he plays Abed but get's grating if he has to add emotional depth to the character. I didn't buy his act in the "Dinner with Andre" episode and his helpless effort to parody Han Solo in the final episode was easily the worst performance of the whole cast while Allison Brie had to pull the weight for two people.

Even Chevy redeemed himself in my book because the delivery in the final scene was just so spot on.

He's playing Abed though, so it's Abed imitating, he's not meant to be a professional imitator... It's a comedy.

 :awesome_for_real:



(http://i-beta.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/0/2/0/58020.gif?v=1)

Johnny, I don't know you but...I love you man.

Now that right there is just...fantastic.

I like how she adjusts her shirt to show MORE cleavage instead of less. 

She knows what she was hired for.

 :awesome_for_real: (again)

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/movies-and-tv/201108/alison-brie-gillian-jacobs-community-gq-lesbian-photo

Last night's episode was amazing - I was actually in tears from laughing at one point (okay, I was on my second glass of wine, but still).

God I love the evil study group.

Ya, I hope the goateed, evil Troy and Abed cross over the time-line at some point.

I was unimpressed at first, but the show picked up steam and I laughed my ass off!  The evil study group was love.

I finally got caught up over the weekend. Remedial Chaos Theory is my favorite of season 3 so far. So many great moments. There's something about the bottle episodes that just works for me.

I take it back. Studies in Modern Movement is my new favorite. Did you watch it? Watch it. (http://www.nbc.com/community/video/studies-in-modern-movement/1367726/) So much awesome. "He tweeted iiiiiit!"

Additionally, I have to give kudoes out to their wardrobe department. I was already hot for Gillian Jacobs, but this season she's been wearing less of the leather jackets, and more of the tight t-shirts. Holy smokes.

I don't like to wish ill on anyone, but I pray that NBC continues to dredge along at the bottom of the ratings battles, so that this show can hang around for a while longer :)

Frightens me she is from Pittsburgh, and actually the neighborhood I used to live in/near.

Fun episode.  Really liked Jeff and the karaoke!  The dreamatorium was meh though.  I love it when Troy gets really childish, his gestures and facial expressions are hilarious!

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but:

Community "on the bench for a bit" (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/11/community-benched-in-nbc-mid-season-shuffle.html) and being moved out of its timeslot in exchange for 30 Rock.  No announcement on when it will return, though they insist it will eventually.

Community can't compete with Big Bang Theory.  If they would have put it at the 7:30 slot it would have probably been better. 

Here's another link on this topic. (http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-alan-watching/posts/nbcs-mid-season-schedule-benches-community-kills-prime-suspect-brings-back-30-rock)


Nothing in NBC's lineup can compete with Big Bang Theory, or with anything else the other networks are putting on the air.

At this point, I just hope Community gets to finish season 3.

Troy and Abed getting cannnnnncccccceeeeelllllleeeeeddddd.  :(

Community could very well pull a Chuck and come back, if NBC decides to keep a low ratings/higher critical reviews show over one of the new comedies that no one seems to like much.  As was pointed out in one of those articles, the producers are also keen on the syndication potential for the show...  and that might be enough to keep it around for another season or two to get the number of syndication episodes up.

I can't fault NBC on this.  They've really tried to push the show, and they've kept it around longer than most anyone else would with the mediocre ratings. 

I'd miss it, but I'd be happy with three great seasons.... and if NBC is going to yank it, I would LOVE to see the insanity that Dan Harmon will pull out in the final episodes.

Just move it opposite the atrocity that is that cartoon show after Simpsons.  Course then you're competing with The Amazing Race, but hey, better that than BBT.

I don't know what's worse that Allen Gregory cartoon or Cleveland Show.  I can live without either of those, just don't take away my American Dad.

Cleveland has its moments despite being on the down side of funny most of the time.   Gregory, though...   First time I've actually changed the channel after Simpsons in years rather than suffer through whatever was served up in the after slot.  Even Bob's Burgers couldn't get me to do that.

Really loved Bobs Burgers, funniest Fox cartoon since Family Guy lost its mojo.

Bob's Burgers took me a couple of episodes but I really got into it.  I'm not sure if it's cancelled or a mid season show.

Bobs had me after a few episodes but then it devolved into being Home Movies II as more of those characters started showing up.  I lost interest at that point and then the whole animal anus episode thing happened. 

I'm pretty sure it was only a midseason thing.

Err.. yeah, this might also be illustrative of Community's problem.  Discussion of other shows just sort of happens.

True. And as has also been pointed out, this show wouldn't have gotten a 3rd season (or maybe even a 2nd) on the other networks. It's only lasted this long on NBC because all of their shows have terrible ratings.

Donald Glover (Troy) has a stand-up special on Comedy Central this Saturday.  I'm really interested in seeing what his stand-up is like...  you've got to be impressed with a guy that young with his resume (Community, Derrick Comedy, writer for 30 Rock).

It'll actually be his second comedy central special. I watched the first and he's even better in his stand-up than he is on tv.

Heh. They were making some great jokes about the haitus on The Soup with Allison Brie.  Is it wrong for me to mention I really, really, really, really want to have sex with Allison Brie?

Probably wrong if you did not.

Ugh. I caught up with my last unwatched episode over the weekend, Advanced Gay.

And it made me sad.

Sad, because this show is going to be cancelled.

And there won't be any more episodes like Advanced Gay.

This is why I love Community:

http://tumblr.thedailywh.at/post/13189969649/easter-egg-of-the-day-want-to-know-why-community

In the last clip, look at the person through the window behind Annie. 

Also, the "Gwenifer" that Britta mentions in the second clip that Jeff had a date with?  Gwenifer is the name of an account that was trolling Dan Harmon on Facebook.

Teach Me How To Understand Christmas

Teach me how to understand Christmas
Show me how to open a box
It hurts my little head
When I'm lying in my bed
With visions of sugarplum socks?

Teach me how to understand Christmas
Do I trim the tree or the deer?
I can't keep it straight
And now it's getting late
Where does the stocking go? Here?

What's a Christmas Eve? Is that Santa's lady?
Are snowmen cold or hot?
Won't you be my daddy
I'm a silly Christmas baby
Tell me what to deck 'cuz ... hehe ... I forgot

Bwian huwty undewstandy Cwistmas
Mistletoe for eatie taste good?
You smawty, me dumb
Help pwetty have fun!
Boopy doopy doop boop sex

Seriously, it's like they're trying to find the meta singularity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebuYMnY289Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5cdzc3YdFI

We're not dead yet! (http://news.yahoo.com/nbc-chief-says-community-coming-back-194836342.html)

Best news I've heard today!

Troy and Abed clinging oooooonnnnn!

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jpmoore/the-cast-of-community-as-x-men

 :awesome_for_real:

Community to return March 15, 2012 (http://entertainment.time.com/2012/02/21/human-beings-rejoice-community-returns-to-nbc-march-15/)

They're going back into the 8pm timeslot. I guess Parks and Rec is getting a 5-week hiatus to make room until NBC can shuffle something else out of the Thursday night lineup.

Gather your Greendales while ye may.

8:00? Putting this up against Big Bang Theory just seems like a way of killing it off quicker. BBT and AI Own Thursdays at 8pm with Wipeout cleaning-up.  It would have a better shot at 8:30 or 9:30 against that awful Rob show or as an alternative to Person of Interest.  This just says they feel stronger about "Up All Night" to me.

 :woot:

It's pretty obvious NBC has little care about whether or not the show succeeds, but at least I'll get to watch a few more.

Actually it won't be against BBT the first week...it will be against the first night of the NCAA tournament. :awesome_for_real: It is pretty clearly just being thrown out as a sacrificial lamb so NBC doesn't have to go dark for that time period. Fuck NBC soooo much.

Have I mentioned recently that I want to have sex with Allison Brie?

No not recently.

I believe that having the desire is implicit.

Weird doublepost somehow

Lets demonstrate this in flow chart form


                                                    Do you want to have sex with Alison Brie ---- No--->  You're dead
                                                                               |
                                                                               |
                                                                             Yes
                                                                               |
                                                                              V
                                                                  Congratulations, you're still alive

+1 and Brita with the seethrough fishnet top was solid as well.  :heart:

I'll save you guys some time in the Imaginarium....

(http://i.imgur.com/AGXCd.jpg)

Yes, I know it's been posted before. Anyhoo....They are such great sports!  :why_so_serious:  :grin:  :awesome_for_real:

http://www.gq.com/entertainment/movies-and-tv/201108/alison-brie-gillian-jacobs-community-gq-lesbian-photo (http://www.gq.com/entertainment/movies-and-tv/201108/alison-brie-gillian-jacobs-community-gq-lesbian-photo)

Article on NBC cancellations:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/01/24/nbc-grimm-is-certain-to-be-renewed-the-cancellation-bear-will-dine-elsewhere/117409/


Looks good for Community, especially since the ratings for last week were very, very good for them.

For some reason I'd never watched this until last week. At which point I sat down and watched it all front to back.

What the hell, NBC. This is like the best thing you've ever aired.

The Thursday night comedy audience had shit else to watch, as Big Bang Theory was off due to the NCAA Tourney.  Expect them to get excellent ratings this week too, then fall off after the Tournament ends.

:angryfist:

Still, take advantage when you can. Last weeks episode was ok, but this weeks just knocked everything out of the park. Completely absurd, in a great way.

"We love you Seacrest Hulk!"

I love the multi episode arc they have set up with Chang and Evil Abed.

Not their best episodes, but the Dean's reaction to 'Beefcake Airways' was hysterical!

I think I need to rewatch Community I love it but it's almost too chock block of awesome quips and other references.

I'm almost overwhelmed having not watched it before it went on hiatus

Finally caught up with this; it's so good, so very good.

"I need help with to react to this"

Law & Order spoof = :awesome_for_real:

That was brilliant, especially the dramatic punchline at the end.

As a huge L&O fan, that was absolutely amazing. They had it down to the shot rhythms, character blocking, mannerisms, camera angle, edits. Just incredible.

Plus the actual Omar quote. Unreal.

Just watched it.  Tons of fun!  I like how they treated Britta, their investigation and the twists at the end.  If you're a fan of TV, you really should be watching this. 

Amazing episode. Probably the best yet.

Remedial Chaos Theory (the one with the housewarming and the dice) has probably been my favourite episode so far.

They do a lot of spoofs or perhaps homages.. but this was the first one they REALLY committed to. And it worked so well.

My personal favourite episode. The homage and all the references were perfect as mentioned by everyone else.

I'm sad about the possible change in characters though...

For the episode to be truly awesome, it needs to be canon.

Yea, they did spoil that that was going to happen to one of the characters this season, so I assume they'll stick with it.

Holy crap, Community renewed for Season 4, for at least 13 episodes. (http://www.vulture.com/2012/05/will-community-get-renewed-another-season.html)

Somewhere upthread, there was a theory kicking around that Sony wants syndication, so they might be willing to get lowballed. I wonder if that played a part.

Anyway, we get at least another half-season!

Sweet

Tonight's 90 minute marathon was amazing.  The video game episode may go down as one of all my all time favorites.  Though, we were also blessed with the amazing Goth Britta tonight. 

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3d3zeVQKj1r4kxexo1_1280.jpg)

Dan Harmon got fired by Sony. (http://www.vulture.com/2012/05/dan-harmon-community-future-nbc-sony.html)

Well. I'm sure that a portion of their ratings comes from viewers who think this show is entertaining because of Dan Harmon, rather than in spite of him.
But, if all of those people don't tune in for S4, will anyone notice?

What the hell is it with this show and network exec's constant efforts to kill it? Just feels like they are doing everything imaginable to make this show go away... which is only 1 of 4 shows I watch weekly - though, on Hulu.

And the cast in an 8 bit video game is priceless. I want a screenshot of them in the study room...

You can't publically shit on chevy chase and not expect to lose your job.  Deserved or not very few people could get away with that, it leaves a bad taste in the mouth of actors in general and is just bad PR.

Pretty much guarantees I won't be tuning in for S4. Much like The West Wing after Sorkin left (still have never seen anything beyond S4). I tune in because these shows have a certain quality I like, not just because they are on TV and I like the moving pictures and the sounds. NBC is also awkwardly shoveling 30 Rock out the door too. Gotta make way for more singing and fat people. Maybe singing fat people!

I suppose only those who watch network TV are supporting those "reality" tv ratings... I can only hope for the salvation of mankind.

You have just ensured the doom of this world. You cannot even begin to imagine what you've set in motion this day.

Then never look at the ratings numbers for those shows.

Not sure how Harmon's exit will change the show.  If we lose paintball and 8 bit episodes then feck it.  I love that shit.

Got DAMN did Britta look good goth!  She should dress like that from here out.

So put me down as cautiously optimistic for next season.  I love this weird, meta, scattershot show. 

"Troy and Abed shooting Laaavaaaa!"

coolcoolcool

cruelcruelcruel...

And I can't believe she is from Pittsburgh...

The problem is that you haven't yet killed Nielsen with fire like you should have long ago. Even if it weren't for hulu, DVD and streaming viewers that they don't count their process of determining ratings would be broken.

Most of those shows have a huge audience - on hulu, DVR or via grey/black channels overseas.

DVR and hulu numbers are huge for Community, Parks and Rec and other shows and Dan Harmon's exit as showrunner was trending topic in Europe although the show doesn't yet run anywhere over here (all because of word of mouth and "illegal" downloads since neither hulu nor netflix are legally available in the EU nor are the DVDs).

Unfortunately the DVR and +7 numbers don't count towards the ratings only live viewers. If they did Community would have a 5.x or 7.x rating in the demo instead of a 1.7 and if they had found a way to legally sell streaming of Community and/or Parks and Rec to the overseas market (or the DVDs) the numbers would be huge.

Since they haven't figured out how to capitalize on that though (which is sad because they will have to at some point) and since advertisers don't like DVR or streaming viewers (can't place ads) they like to ignore those numbers though and focus on the live rating (which is unsurprisingly abysmal for a show that skewers so young).

On his last standup college tour Joel McHale (Jeff Winger on Community for those who don't know) always asked the audience if they watched Community (most if not all of them did) and how they watched it. 90% watched it on Hulu or other streaming services, only about 5% of the college audience even owned a TV most if not all watched on the PC or iPad. Even the TV owners didn't watch live but used DVRs.

It's not a representative sampling by any means but I'm 35 and the only people I know that still watch live or scheduled TV are of my parents' generation. Most people I know only use their cable or satellite service for news or live events (like football or big sports events) only. Many don't even have a live cable subscription anymore and instead rely on DVDs, iTunes or streaming for movies and use public access TV (which is more like the bbc than PBS over here) for everything else.

There is a whole shadow economy of for example VPN provider services or Usenet providers and guides so that EU citizens can gain access to Hulu, Netflix, BBC iPlayer and other online video services simply because it's the only available avenue to watch the content. More often than not there are no legal channels available until a EU broadcasting network licenses the property which can take anywhere from 2 years to never.

The most downloaded TV season yet of any TV series in the GERMAN iTunes store is the original english language version of the 6th season of Lost WITHOUT SUBTITLES. Just because they were available less than 24 hours after the US airdate. It has been so successful that you can now buy season passes for Game of Thrones, New Girl, House and a few others to get the episodes within 24 hours of the US airdate even though it's OV and without subtitles. This is a small sensation because German TV doesn't broadcast OV with subtitles at all everything is dubbed.

The bbc iPlayer global edition is in the iTunes app top 50 in most EU countries even though it only offers a selection of older bbc content.

There is a huge untapped market especially for shows like 30 Rock, Parks and Rec, Firefly, Community that skewer young (Firefly btw. never officially aired in Germany yet broke the Amazon DE Top 50 sales charts when they started offering the Region 2 DVDs with english language rack). Hell I've ranted on for several paragraphs already even though I'm from Germany and couldn't even legally watch Community. That's the kind of appeal NBC is squandering here and movements like "Save Chuck" were always global fan movements with huge audience participation from all over the world.

A 18 to 35 demo rating becomes more and more pointless though if TV ownership and a cable subscription is required and you have to watch the shows on the date and time they are broadcast to even register as a viewer. My primary TV is my iPad now.

The fact that we'll never get another 8bit or paintball ep or anything as brilliant even though a show like Community could be profitable if all of that untapped potential wasn't ignored makes me sad

What he said.

Whatchchu got against Pittsburgh?

Nothing.... I live here.

Haha, sucker.

I grew up there.

I'm just going to set this down here, like so.

Season 3 DVD goes on sale: August 14, 2012 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0053O8A8M)

 :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:


You don't have to buy it from Amazon of course, I just put a link in there for verification purposes :D

and. still. not. blu. ray.  :x

Geeks more than any other demographic will buy multiple copies. Star Wars taught the industry that, Lord of the Rings confirmed it. 

They'll do a Blu-Ray when the last season is shot and re-release everything.

LOTR came out when Blu-Ray was still fledgling. Everything "geek" orientated comes out on Blu-Ray now. I don't have a single god damn reason to think this has anything to do with that. I don't think that would hold true in this case. I don't know why we would think that.

I have the DVDs. There's some subtle things going on in the commentaries.
1) The last few episodes, the people in the commentary are looking at not-finished versions of the episodes. Like, in "Digital Estate Planning", the computer voices they're hearing are all Dan Harmon. Which is weird, because I am viewing the finished product. So, they recorded the commentaries before the season had fully aired. Which leads to ...
2) Dan Harmon makes references to Season 4 and "13 episodes" as if he's going to be around for it. It's surreal  :awesome_for_real:

He also made a mention of the "public feud" between himself and Chevy, which, among other things, led to one of the episodes having a different tag than was originally planned.

Yeah, the Dan Harmon/Chevy thing was pretty widely known.

So this has been bumped back a week, but promoted to the Thursday evening slot. I'm not sure if this is a good thing, or just a thing.

Need more community in my life, I love this show.

Continuing the drama, chevy chase has quit the show in some sort of tiff, and will be missing in some of the episodes of season 4.

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/22/chevy-chase-leaves-cast-of-community/

Well, that's not a good sign.

It's just stupid at this point.  There's literally like 2 episodes left that they haven't filmed and we can assume that this is the end of the show.

I think you are all forgetting that this is Chevy Chase we are talking about, and he's a known asshole.

Ouch. (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/07/arts/television/community-returns-on-nbc-without-dan-harmon.html)

I have yet to watch the new episodes, I hope he's wrong.

Oh dear.

Well, I'll go in with high hopes, there is still a lot of talent in the cast, but that doesn't bode well.

Don't. Do just the opposite, or at the very least, temper your hopes.

Well fuck.

It's definitely much more forced and any sense of heart and nuance has been run over roughshod in the rush to make it the answer to Two Broke Girls or some such shit.

It wasn't terrible, but it certainly didn't have the charm of the Harmon years.

Yeah, it felt a bit forced. Like somebody got notes what is funny about this show and tried to recreate it without having the same sense of humor. Maybe that is my knowledge of Harmon leaving clouding the issue, though.

'Yo dawg, we heard you like meta, so we put meta in your meta....'

Seriously, it felt like the point was to try and mock Harmon's style by putting in as many layers as possible in a completely incoherent fashion, and in the process make the audience the butt of the joke.

--Dave

Not surprising... they been trying to get rid of this show for what seems like forever. Seems like they found the bullet.

If they wanted to get rid if it they would have when Harmon left.  Now they're just stretching it out for syndication purposes.

Ehhhh, it was OK.  Going to stick with it. 

36 hours on the road with Dan Harmon. (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8936669/dan-harmon-life-community)

Fun read on Dan Harmon, guy is a fruit cake.

I've enjoyed the first two episodes of this season. I won't try and argue that they showcase the best of the show, but they haven't been as bad as a lot of these reviews would seem to imply. The only things that have irked me is the dialogue, the timing between the cast seems to have been off at times, and it feels weird, and Abed. It seems that the new writers don't know what to do with him, so they wrote him out of the first two episodes to a degree. Also, the lacking after-show bit with Troy and Abed after episode one annoyed me.

I'm no fan of the show, but I understand that what people love about it is the continuity.  That references made will come back later with a payoff.   Given that, the first review was damning enough - the character that introduced the Who-facsimile didn't know wtf it was? Derf?

They don't seem to know when to take a beat in the editing, let the reference or the straight lines soak in. They just rush ahead to the next bit.

--Dave

Alison Brie was on Daily Show.. it was lovely.  :awesome_for_real:

The first episode was fine. The second episode, however, was TERRIBLE.

The third episode last night (Inspector Spacetime Convention) wasn't great, but was definitely an improvement.

I watched this interview.  With the sound down, it was incredible.

Pet peeve: american sitcome writers who do not know how to write dialogue for British characters, classically exemplified by Emily's use of the word 'pants' instead of 'trousers' in the Friends episode in London. Also, nobody in the UK, especially not faculty members at Oxford, ever use the word 'coed'.  :oh_i_see:

Aside from this, the series is definitely improving, the cast seem to have better timing and the whole thing feels good. Still no great episodes, but they're not bad.

Now you know how we feel when there's "Americans" on the UK shows here.

Not the best episode, and it certainly did not live up to the last appearance of the Germans, but I did laugh out loud at the balloons. Probably because I actually have that silly song on the thumb drive in my car.

Never watched this show live but now almost through season 3 via Hulu.

This is like the greatest show in the history of television. A few episodes were not up to the rest, but on the whole, pure delight. All of the cast is stellar (with the possible exception of Glover IMV) and remarkably gifted. Even Chevy Chase even if he didn't want to be there.

Haven't seen any of season 4 though I hear a range of disappointment from "totally sucks now" to "good, but not anything near to 1st 3 seasons".

On the ratings disappointment, here is a Wired article on the Nielsen disconnect (http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/03/nielsen-family-is-dead/) with some blurbs (and photos too) of Alison Brie…

(http://archive.azplace.net/images/Screenshot_3_30_13_2_16_PM_17078DF0.png)

It seems Community ranks at the bottom of the Nielsen ratings but near the top in net culture buzz. I guess given the premise and nature of this show, not to be unexpected.

Community seems like the epitome of a show that is made for new media, and which cannot be gauged well in any sense by systems like Nielsen.

For the record, I think season four is going really well. The first two episodes were shaky and oddly-paced, but since then the show has found good form. There haven't been any complete stand-out episodes, but they're all good and better than any alternative.

It's gotten better.  Nothing that really stands up to the better episodes from 2 and 3, but since the bobbles in the first few episodes it's stopped making me think "Oh God, I see what they're trying to do there and they totally blew it."  They aren't aiming as high, but they're not screwing up what they do try, either.  Maybe they can close out the syndication/DVD boxed set package without trashing the franchise, which would count as a "Win" now.

--Dave

Community renewed for a 5th season. (http://screencrush.com/community-season-5-nbc-fall-2013-2014-schedule/)

I'm pleased about this; while this 4th season hasn't been as good as previous seasons, it has been better than the first two episodes implied. Although I'm not sure where they're going to go with the storylines.

Good riddance to Chevy Chase, this season really showed how unnecessary he was to the show.

Oh nice. This last episode was a bit much, but still stayed on course. Still wondering about Chang though...

Rumor is that Dan Harmon may be coming back for the next/last season.

Christ, that was a short season!  Uneven episodes.  But the 'Freaky Friday' one was both funny and touching.  5th season!  You know the pressure will  be incredible for them to renew to bow to the 'six seasons and a movie' crowd.

Fortunately, NBC is such a dumpster fire of a network, it made the cut. 

I hope Harmon comes back, coke habit and all. 

Dan Harmon coming back would be grand

So if Harmon comes back, but Chevy Chase is out, who is he going to hire to be the on-screen voice of his latent misogyny, homophobia, and racism?

Necro for the new season trailer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-3kFjFbSSE

Absolute insanity.  Can't wait.

I'm confused, so Harmon is back again?  And did season four wind up okay or not because it's already on my Christmas list!?

Season 4 was more miss than hit imo.

Was that Starburns in the Connery getup?

Looks like Chang is filling the role of in group antagonist this season.

I shall simply repeat what I just typed in to Lync at work. Awesome.

(I also typed: Was that Walter Goggins?)

Yes, that was Walton Goggins. I've only seen the first season of Community and loved it.

You owe it to yourself to watch seasons 2 and 3; season 3 is where the show really hit its stride I feel. Remedial Chaos Theory is one of the best episodes of any TV show ever.

Jonathan Banks too!

I agree, but they had a few really good episodes.  If you're new to Community, watch all the episodes.

Abed's Christmas episode has now become a holiday tradition of mine.  This show has gone to some really weird places and I love it.

FYI this is back on tonight.
Wouldn't want anyone to miss it.

Oooo, two new episodes back to back!  Oh shit it's up against BBT.  Oh well time to DVR.

The writing felt much better - and it was good of them to give the hologram a send-off.

This is so much better than season four

the season premier, Re-Pilot, was the most insane meta layered thing they've ever done. The fact that they managed to make fun of everything that the show went through in the Lost Season and everything that's going to change, like Glover leaving, was just amazing. The fact that the episode was a near mirror for the original pilot only made it that much more delicious.

It's uncanny how much of a difference Dan Harmon seems to make; the actors seem to have better timing, they work off each other in a more natural way, the jokes and pacing feel better. It gives me hopes for the rest of the season.

Apparently there's going to be another D&D episode too  :awesome_for_real:

Less talk more Brie gifs.

Harmon is fine with throwing a joke grenade and leaving it out there. The past season was more stereotypical sitcom where you have to sit and make sure the audience gets it. It's what makes Community rewatchable. There's so many little things you will probably miss the first time.

The thing that is great about the show is that can be completley off the wall. They do absurd things and take crazy leaps for a joke. This felt like it was missing while harmon was gone. Now its back, and awesome.

They have also filled in an awesome assortment of oddball recurring secondary characters. These secondary characters really complete the world and give many more chances for humor. This is something I think the simpsons has done better than any show. Parks and Rec also does this well.

RIP Pierce Hawhtorne.

And now, in tribute, the top 50 scenes from Community that Pearce was a part of...

Glorious insanity!  You can really tell Harmon is back. 

Oh man, Dan Harmon's Community is so much better than not-Dan-Harmon's Community.

The last two episodes have riffed on great episodes from the past, while keeping things moving forward, all in all I think they've handled the series as well as anyone could hope so far.

Yeah, it's back from being an OK watch to consistently fantastic. In case you stopped watching during the non-Harmon episodes you should really pick this up again.

I'm 1-2 episodes behind at the moment, but if you have not watched, go back and watch everything this season. Perhaps the strongest season yet, and Re-Pilot (the season premier) is probably my favorite episode of television ever.

They said "fuck this fourth wall shit" and somehow broke 5th, 6th and 7th walls.

I'm speculating there is a good chance that Pierce is not dead. 

They will likely never have in him in the same room as the rest of the cast again, but I could see them revealing that he faked his death and is manipulating the group for his own ends...  Of course, they might not be able to have Chevy return if The Family Vacation series gets picked up on - ABC?

Unlikely to happy, simply because Chase and Harmon can't stand each other.

Yeah, i don't see Chevy coming back.

http://screencrush.com/community-season-5-premiere-chevy-chase-cameo-dan-harmon/

He cameos onece, he could do it again... and they could do it with a recasting, too - it would not be out of character for Pierce to go to extremes (surgery) to try to fit in.  Just saying...

Well, jesus.. sure, if they recast him. But that's such a shifting-goalposts kind of argument. Come on man, that's not what we were talking about. When we're talking about Pierce Hawthorn, we are talking about Chevy Chase.

If he does show up, it would probably be something like he did in the season premier. Sounds like there's plenty of legal reasoning behind him not being on set.

Putting aside the recast, it was Harmon that went to Chevy and asked him to return for the premiere... and they have specifically called out Pierce trying to control the group from beyond the grave... and that decided to use that as the reason that Troy is leaving...

I could easily be wrong.  But there are some signs pointing in that direction.  All I'm saying...

Maybe it was wishful thinking, but at the time, during that "ass crack bandit" episode, I thought for sure that was Pierce they were chasing before they found Starburns.

Laughed my ass off when Britta screamed "Chairwalkers!"  Also, why didn't the Dean appear after he joined the game?  Oh and ass crack bandit was fucking awesome.

I'm not sure what evidence that is for anything down the road beyond more hologram stuff. He says that he had to film Chevy on a separate stage to get the studio to agree. he's just not going to be able to have a return unless something fundamentally changes.

I read all of that interaction as something else entirely. The characters are coming from the angle that Pierce was fucked up and weird, but everything about that seems to indicate that Pierce was actually trying to be a decent person. It showed that the characters are pretty immature emotionally, assuming the worst... even if Pierce still managed to be SOMEWHAT of a clueless twat for some of it. They needed a good way to write off Troy and it works, considering their shared history.

Things can either be a lead, or a mislead... but if they keep on bringing up the name and feeling ramifications from his actions, there is likely more story.  If there is nothing further we can attribute to the name Pierce going forward, then it is likely over...

I wouldn't hold out hope for much more Pierce.

One suggestion that I did see which made me smile was to have Pierce played by a different older white male guest actor every week, with no explanation or acknowledgement by the cast.

Troy on the other hand:

Personally, I don't want anymore Pierce. That chapter has been closed, as far as I'm concerned. And probably the weakest of all the characters, in my opinion.

In regards to Glover, I see nothing about doucheyness. He just wanted to move on to something new. He's been quiet open about his mental issues and wasn't totally happy and credits Tina Fey with the knowledge to pursue what he wants to. I haven't heard any tensions between Glover or anyone else.

Not sure why you spoilered that, considering that A) It's not a surprise and B) your lead in kind of spoils it anyway.

As for the episode. Great work. Takes a good hand to craft that much heart into that much straight up goofiness.

I predict a band being formed called Locker Boys or Chair Walkers in the not-to-distant future.

The older criminology professor is Pierce's replacement in my mind, and he does it much better than Chase.  I had to google why Glover was leaving and I have to say that with him being offered his own show to write/produce I can't blame him.  I wish him the best.

He also really wanted to put more focus on his music as well.

With Glover gone, I thought I'd like to share with you the single funniest moment in Community to me.  I nearly went into hysterics.  It may lose something without context but lord was it funny!

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130307133431/community-sitcom/images/1/1a/Troy_dragging_legs.gif)

Why can I not place that scene!

We'll give you the answer in just another five minutes.

Nevermind, I'll just re-watch the entire series.

Miasma is just running behind schedule. It'll just be another 5 minutes.

Seriously, another five minutes is all we need.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_2IR454jQg

Anyone else catch the crawler on the TV in the Cork-networking episode? This show and its details...

(http://i.imgur.com/QSIip1Y.png)

I am identifying way too much with Buzz Hickey.

What the fuck am I watching?  This has to be the most delirious, crazy, surreal TV on the major networks.

I laughed at the start for five solid minutes. 

Go Joe!

Looks like we won't be getting six seasons and a movie. (http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/09/community-cancelled/)  At least Harmon got to come back and run the fifth and final season.

Ah, what a shame.  There was nothing like this on TV.  It lasted longer than I thought.  Maybe it will find a home on Netflix or elsewhere.

coolcoolcool

i think this show is a decent prospect for getting sold off to a different host

Yahoo Screen walks in for 13 more episodes... http://tvline.com/2014/06/30/community-season-6-renewed-yahoo-screen/# (http://tvline.com/2014/06/30/community-season-6-renewed-yahoo-screen/#)

Now, wtf is Yahoo Screen?

I don't know what it is either but whoohoo!  Now if they don't 'Britta' it.

I'm so confused that my corporate overlords are now involved in something I give a damn about.

I maybe watched half of season 4.  It was pretty uninspired in places.  I gave up on season 5 after a handful of episodes, and actually quit watching a couple episodes half way through.  It just wasn't very good when Harmon came back. 

Yah, the polygraph episode was great.  Really suffered from lack of Troy, too much Abed (who has been getting weirder as the years went on), and walking back alot of the character growth for the other characters.  The treatment of Winger's character has been pretty bad for years, where he relearned the same lesson over and over as plot demanded, but he completely reverted to season 1 Jeff at points and somehow also became bad at law.

The Community wacky hijinks only worked because they had a strong and consistent character base. 


Harmon should just say goodbye to Community and move on.  There really isn't any reason to stay with Rick and Morty pulling the ratings and (cartoon) acclaim it is.

This show needs some nudity to freshen it up...

That might kill Abagadro outright.  :why_so_serious:

Gillian Jacobs has done that sort of thing before.

I've been rewatching the first few seasons.  This show was seen as progressive when it was released.  I'm wondering what the reaction would have been now if it were released today.

My wife never seen a single episode so it is now on our evening rotation. I think we are almost to season 4.

Ah, the gas leak year.

You sons of bitches bumped a Community thread and my first thought was "6 seasons and a movie!"

I was hoping to see news about a reunion movie or something.

Sorry - they did a table read togather of Donald's last episode recently.  That is online.  A movie seems unlikely with Glover's popularity.  Pedro Pascal fills in for Walter Goggins.  Lots of MANdalorian jokes.

https://youtu.be/V6Q_nlSULio (https://youtu.be/V6Q_nlSULio)

The points where Pascal totally cracks up are hilarious.

I also love Harmon saying "Man, I need to revise this script" at the end.

We've been rewatching this show for the first time (i.e. 2nd viewing) and while some of the shows are still excellent and fun I found myself getting bored with some of episodes. I found myself browsing the internet during some of them.

Hope you already saw the Advanced D&D one because it's gotten pulled due to Chang wearing drowface.

I'm shocked they have not pulled the blackface hand puppet episode.  That was more offensive in my eyes.