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For those of you wondering, many of us have invites and the beta is up 24/7.

Also, IT IS AWESOME!  :drill:

Yes.

Invite pleaz

Is the email address on your profile up to date?

Si senor

Sent.

Can you talk about the significance of the screenshot/video ban?

It's absolutely nothing to worry about. It's probably because they're doing some major front end / air app changes in the next 2 days (announced on the beta forums) and they're tweaking the engine (it has only gotten better) and some of the 2-D art (again, for the better). Basically, it looks great but they want to make it look better. I can understand it, though I don't understand why they think it would hurt them for people to see screenshots. I think it looks better than Starcraft 2.

Fears assuaged.




Mmmm... sausage.

It doesn't look better than starcraft 2.

It plays great.

It depends on how much you like cel-shading, really. I <3 it here.

Ditto please, if possible. Email in profile is correct

Sent.

Oooh since I just rebuilt my PC - Could I get an invite tossed my way as well?

Thanks!

Sent.

Thanks

Okay, me too please.

If any of you don't like DOTA-style gameplay at all and just want invites because you're bored and have no intention of sticking with it and I find out - I will slay you.

Also, sent.

I'm getting on here in the next day or two. Things have just been hectic.

I would like to give it a go, if you have extra keys around  :pedobear:

I like DOTA, but am bad at it. However, I'd still like to give this a shot, if you've got keys left.

Do they use the last-hit mechanism like DotA?  I wasn't a fan of that.

Played a few games last night and I really like the Tyrn... whatever character.

I'm having lag issues though.  I was playing one game fine, and then the next two my character would stop and I'd have to wait for the game to update me.

Is this my end or the server crapping on me?  I recently moved, but have the same cable service.  I hope I didn't get fucked.  :/

Tryndamere.


Yes.

Do they allow panning out?  Demigod does and I think it contributes to the lack of intimacy that I feel in Demigod.  I like the game, just not as much as I like DotA.

How are the maps?  I liked the single DotA map that I played much more than any of the Demigod maps.

How's the balance between hero skills and items?  Ideally this would be on a hero by hero basis (with some heros being less dependent on items and some being more)

You can pan in, but not really "out" as that would go. I play at max range out all the time and it's still pretty close. You have to pay attention to the minimap.

The only map available right now is the single DotA map. Basically the same thing without a secret shop, maybe a bit smaller. The next one is a 3v3/4v4 map. This one is 5v5 (obviously).

The balance is getting better, but there's always a Flavor of the Week and it's generally the newest hero or whoever they decided was way too weak the week before (in this case, Jax and Master Yi).

Thanks for the answers, one two more and I"ll leave you alone.

How's the summoner mechanism working so far?  (from the perspective of is it a 1) Big Impact possibly broken, 2) Interesting/Fun addition or 3) mostly just flavor/we have persistence!-type of addition)

Do hero skills have a good degree of synergy/situationality? I probably like this the most about DotA.

I don't know what you mean. Do you mean the Rune System? It has a big effect on the early game, little thereafter.


Yes, and they're doing a good job filling in gaps. Some heroes are better than others in terms of synergy, obviously.

Good to hear about skills.

Summoner pag (http://www.leagueoflegends.com/pages/summoners)e from their website.  It's runes, spells and masterys, according to that page.  Maybe it's not implemented fully yet.

I've never played DotA.  But the mention of summoners made my antenna quiver.  Are we talking anything akin to online MtG/Pokemon where you get to commit murder with enslaved minions?  Because that would be  :awesome_for_real:

Nope.

It is. As your champion levels up, you fill up a rune book. You then slot that runebook as a sort of template for each battle. Mine is slotted HP5/MP5 since regen is more important at the beginning. It doesn't make or break a game though and I imagine rune books won't be applicable in tournaments.

DoTA is a game for assholes.  So I am interested in knowing what LoL is doing to discourage the playerbase from being raging dicks to new players.  Otherwise free is too expansive.

Every competitive game is a game for assholes.

LoL has a lower bar for entry and Riot is doing a good job of outright banning players whenever necessary.

Also in theory, the ELO ranking system will filter most of the assholes up the foodchain away from newbies.  This won't stop all of the abuse, and frankly  the DOTA crowd is among the worst I've ever seen, but I hear most of the worst went to HoN anyhow.  Hopefully they don't come back.

Can someone give me a 3 paragraph summary of wth this is? I am not familiar with it.  And what is DoTA I keep seeing referenced?

It's a multiplayer team based RTS game.  I'll be lazy and link a video instead.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/walkthrough-part-league-of/53839

Holy shit, awesome.

Holy shit, I suck.

The gaming industry needs to get the fuck over putting their chubby completely uncharismatic employees front and center in their official videos.  Neither of these guys were too terrible but still, what the fuck.  Why is it necessary that I see their faces?

If I'm ever reunited with my computer I can't want to play this.  Hopefully moving this weekend and then I'll have 2 weeks of pretty much free time.

I'd like a key if anyone would love to love me. Email in profile is correct.

The Summoner ability system works like two persistent global-style abilities that you can bring with you, regardless of character. Things such as a heal, a blink, a teleport, a defensive shield for your tower, and so on. These can all be augmented through the Summoner talent tree.

Making sure you have a decent combination of these on any given character can make a huge difference.

The summoner stuff isn't game breaking.  At least I don't think.  We're talking very minor stat boosts.  Taken cumulatively, they're probably pretty powerful.  I don't know for sure, so this is just supposition.  I did get to level 7 or 8 yesterday.  But within relatively close levels, you're not going to have a significant disadvantage.  But up against someone with twenty levels on you, you're going to be behind the curve.

Of course it will balance out when you play against people who are at the cap, or otherwise within a similar level range.  I don't know enough about the game to say if the beta cap of 30 is permanent.  But if it is, then the only way to gimp yourself is picking skills like a retard. 

All in all, I think it functions like a neat way to give people incentive to learn to play.  And there's a lot to learn.

Nnnnnoooooooooooooo!!


The european website address for this game is ....

http://lol-europe.com/



I can't top that.

roflgoa

It's dumb but I can't stop but laugh a little every time I see this website.

I loved DotA, and would like an invite if any are still available.  I also have a new PC, so I'm looking for anything I can crank the graphics up on  :awesome_for_real:

Its rather random a European picked that name.  I wonder if he named himself after the Indian or the guy who burned down a large amount of the South.

Just watched a video fo the gameplay. Looks like a lot of fun. I'll take a key if there are any left to go around. E-mail in profile is correct.

This game is  :awesome_for_real:

I've already done the Collector's Pre-order deal because I wanted the skins and extra champions to start. Greatness.

Just played a couple games today. I'm lovin' the art style in this game.

Seems they will now be forcing all Europeans to play on the GOA server.  Forum rage ensues.

(US thread) http://beta.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=17386
(Same thread on EU forums) http://forums.lol-europe.com/showthread.php?t=2749

He's French and just really likes Indians.

And now they changed their minds:

http://beta.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=18223

Great news right?  GOA apparently has an awful rep?

They don't have the best rep no  :oh_i_see:

I don't think people would have reacted so strongly if there had been knowledge of this from the start though.  Sure there are those that hate GOA with a passion, but probably the bigger issue was that they were forcibly splitting the community with almost no notice given.  But yeah it wouldn't have helped that it was GOA.

Heh. I got told to go away and play Pacman. They eventually cut me some slack though. And we won so I didn't feel like I had brought the team down. I need to get some 1 on 1 time with a fellow n00bler so that I can get the hang of the different champs without having to wing it and bringing down the wrath of God from my fellow teammates.

step 1.  Don't die.  Make your entire mission not dying.  For reals.  Don't die.

step 2.  Don't play a champ you have never seen anyone else play. 

step 3.  Start thinking of which champs interest you and write down anything you notice about the way other people (esp people who dont suck) play that champ.  This will help you tons.

That would be my advice to anyone who hasn't played DoTa who is picking up LoL for the first 20 or so games.

Hoax is correct. As long as you aren't running in and getting slaughtered all the time, people won't bitch at you. Just hang near your tower and play very conservative until you feel like you've got the champ down well. No one is going to bitch at you for going 0/2. People will bitch at you for going 0/9.

I'm just doing some practice/bot games by myself for now and trying out heroes to see what they can and can't do. Maybe in a few weeks I'll go back in to the fray when I've got some more playtime under my belt.

I'd really advise against that, you wont learn anything really.  You can barely learn anything from playing practice games.  If you need advice on easy champs that you can't totally fuck up the build order on you can get that.  But honestly I would pick a champ you have some reason to think you would like.  Play at least 6 games with him/her before you give up and follow the no dying rules.  Pray you see that champ used on the other team.  Take note of what items he has at the end of the game, what order he bought them in and what skills he seemed to use most if possible.  If after 6 games you feel like this champ might work for you, start reading threads in the guide and champ feedback section or just ask us here for some info on how to play with that champ.  Now play 10 games of practice so that you can hit the right keys in response to various things and your comfortable with what/when to buy stuff and some match up basics.  Now go play real games, the matchmaking/elo system is good.  Don't feed and you'll learn.  Occasionally you can even ask teammates if they know a item/skill build and they will help.  Sometimes they will talk shit.  But most are smart enough to try to help themselves.

You should really just get people like me, slay, ozzu, etc on your friendslist.  Slay esp he's been training some friends on how to play.  But we occasionally play some 3v3 treeline practice games on vent and that is very newb friendly since its practice only and the game is a shorter timesink.

As a fellow n00b I highly recommend hopping in for a few real games. It really does help to get a clearer picture of how some of the champions are used. I usually play a bot game to try out a new hero and then hop in for a real match right after. It's been working really well for me so far.

I will get back into some live games. I just want to be able to futz around with different champs and their powers without any pressure. I know the practice games aren't anywhere near a live match. I just need to know how the car handles before I take it out on the Autobahn.

Nothing wrong with that, but the experience you gain in practice games as opposed to bot games is huge. You learn the abilities of other champs, which in turn helps the no dying rule. If you know Sion has a Stun and an AoE explosion, you can make sure you don't get too low when you are laning against him, or too close to a turret when you are about out of creeps. You learn at learn 6, Ryze gets his Ultimate and to keep minions near you to absord a lot of it. You notice Chogath can munch people down from about 1/3 health instantly. A half if he rupture/silences ya.

Learning the champs you fight against is almost as good as learning your own champ.

Well practice games have a tendency of discriminating against new players. Joining a ranked or practice game is the only way for a new player to learn the game. I have 3 things that I can really tell a new player.

1. Avoid combat. Stick to killing as many monsters as possible, never fight a player direct, never think you can win a fight one on one, never think that you can a prolong battle in the middle of anywhere, and don't chase. This is what some chess players call "sitting on your hands". The impulse to use your auto attack and spells on an opponent is generally overwhelming especially in the beginning during the laning period. Become an opportunist, take the cheap shots, go in for the kill when he is at low health, attack when you outnumber them, but avoid engaging when he has an opportunity to strike back. This is important, because if you are new, there is simply no way you can understand the ways an advantageous situation can turn really bad really quickly and to be honest you simply have no idea on how to make a proper attack. By avoiding combat you force yourself to watch and learn and make informed decisions.

2. Prioritize your life more than anything else. Dieing a lot frustrates you because you literally can't do anything when your dead and the respawn time gradually gets longer. It frustrates your teammates, who are now down one man and more likely to get steamrolled. And makes your opponent very happy, because now he gains the money to buy better items and the experienced needed to out level you. Avoid death, learn how to play defensive(don't run into bushes, don't chase, don't fight near enemy tower, never continue fighting at low health), learn how to read your map, count the amount of players you see on the map, if suddenly you see very little non friendly dots compared to friendly dots, that is because the entire team is probably heading your way (always assume this). No selfless sacrifices assuming he (player or friendly tower) can't be saved if you do not have a stun, a movement effecting skill, your at low health, or he is outnumbered(2 to 1 odds for players 2-3 to 1 odds for towers depending on health). Selfless sacrifices can often lead to double kills for the other team.

3. Learn your playstyle. Understand the champs you want to play, usually migrating from champs you see other people play to champs that might fit your play style as you get more experience. Read the online guides for item/rune builds for favorite champs but don't use them word for word. They are suggestions not law. Play style is again everything. Once you establish your play style you can start breaking the rules imposed by you during steps 1 and 2. Understanding your play style also comes with understanding how you want to counter situations in the game presented by the flow of the game ( beginning laning game to mid gank game to end seige game) and by other champions (how do I counter rayze ultimate? how do I counter turrent spam? Does auras help my team vs xxxx?).


I don't understand how LoL is considered a real time strategy game. It reminds me of an MMORPG without the pve grind.

I haven't heard anyone call these 'RTS'.  The only reason anyone might call it a real time strategy game is because the original mod was ceated on a RTS game.  If it has any name at all it seems to be "Tower Defense".

If someone created one of these games without towers we'd probably call it something like "third person tactics" (TPT) or "realtime tactics".  How bout, "third person button and mouse masher (TPBMM)?  Or maybe, "that CHEATY MOTHERFUCKER KILLED ME AGAIN!??!?!  FUCKING UNBALANCED SOMBITCH!!!! (CMFKMA-FUS).

edit: typing

I just call it "What Fury Should Have Been" they should really market this as a pvp mmo so all the "hardcore" pvp'ers in various mmo's can be called carebears by the Dota players  :drill:

i call it fun. wooo

This. I've played this game every single day since I got into the closed beta. Still having lots of fun.

add me fool :)

This game is great.  Even a scrub like me can have a fair amount of success.  It still has a large share of assholes, but there is far more room for new players to get up to speed.

EDIT: I totally jinxed myself.  They revamped Ryze and now I am starting over.  Probably switch to teemo.

My first impressions of the new patch, Tryndamire is bad now, Ryze is actaully good now and the new champ seems pretty meh, but people probably just haven't figured out the best way to play him yet.

Trynd is good bordering on overpowered, Ryze is good, towers are made of paper, even more so than before, gold while dead is a nice re-inclusion, and the new hero's early game is probably the worst out of any of the heroes. He's pretty decent when he gets a few levels, though.

Guess I'll have to give him another shot.  I used to really like Trynd but didn't care for him after playing a couple games with him last night.  But then again we got stomped in both of those games.  I had the pleasure of laning with the worst Fiddle I have ever see in one of those games.  The final kill score at 24 minutes when we lost that game was about 4 - 32 with our best two scores being our Allistar at 0-1-1 and me at 2-4-1.  :ye_gods:

Also I wonder how long before Deathfire Grasp gets nerfed, wtf were they thinking when they put that in?

In the game I was playing last night Tyrnd was 3 shotting people at level 2. Mind you, he was summoner level 30, so there were a lot of runes and masteries beefing him up, but it was still ridiculous.

I just can't figure the new champ, Udyr, out. I've tried stacking attack and I've tried stacking ability power. I've tried jungling. He just doesn't seem to have enough killing power to finish people as well as he should. The best I've done is a 6/4 game. I've seen others in games just completely fail with him to the tune of 2/10, 3/7, etc.

The idea is neat, but I think he needs a buff. I'll keep messing around with it to see if it suddenly starts clicking though. Oh, and the description of his tiger stance says that his on-hit effects only apply to some of his attacks since they're all so fast. I had to try it myself to be convinced and sure enough, destiny blade with it's 100 magic dmg every 4th attack is basically useless when in theory, it sounded like it'd give him a nice boost since he hits so damn fast in that stance.

Most of the LoL forum seems to be of the opinion that Udyr sucks as well it seems.  Although I'd much rather have them release a new character a bit underpowered then overpowered and broken.  :awesome_for_real:

Got some better chances to play Trynd tonight, in some decent games.  I take back anything I said that wasn't "He's arguably OP now."  :uhrr:  Largely because Trynd + improved cleanse is just a crazy DPS machine that you can't kill or stop.

I need a new gaming machine so I can rofl stomp with Tryndamere!

New cleanse is fucking retarded, if you aren't taking it with just about any champ you are gimping yourself.  The entire metagame is changed until they adjust the cooldown on that spell.

No arguement here.  I'd bet the only reason you don't see everyone with it is because most people haven't realized how brokenly awsome it is now.

Arguably? LAWLZ, he's banned from tournaments!