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Title: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Ashamanchill on March 28, 2009, 12:10:22 AM
What with their being nothing to play right now that tweaks my interest, and hockey playoffs a while off, I said fuck it, I'm grabbing the xpac and headed back to EQ2.  Last time I was there I was on Nagafen with some RL friends, and that definately wasn't for me.  I'm going straight up PVE server this time.  That being said, what's a good one with decent population?
Also, last time I played a guardian and really liked it, but I want to change it up.  How are the pally and shadowknight classes.  I'm looking more to solo than to min max.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Lantyssa on March 28, 2009, 10:10:23 AM
I've only gotten her to 38 or 39, but I love my little Arasai Shadowknight.  She's been rather tough in my solo journeys, though I have not played the other tank classes.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on March 28, 2009, 04:50:48 PM
I loved my SK when he was "underpowered", solo to 45 or 46. Now apparently it's the FotM, but I've been playing my wizard. SK is one of my favorite classes, along with monk and necro. I really like FD :) My pally is only like 22 and just coming into his own, but it feels slower to me, haven't really played him in years.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Lantyssa on March 29, 2009, 09:06:27 AM
Pallies probably are compared to a SK.  The SK heals are smaller, but are all offensive drains.  Their spells are mostly DoTs, but they have the toughness to wait them out, and with their drains my SK was usually topped off on health at the end of a fight.

If you're played AoC, the Dark Templar is probably the closest analogous class in another game I can think of at the moment.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on March 29, 2009, 09:33:16 AM
I should mention I play my SK with combat xp disabled and Masters of all my important spells, namely my ward and lifetaps. Just finished his suit of ebon, I should take him out for a stroll.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Ashamanchill on March 30, 2009, 01:55:13 PM
I'm up to lvl 21 and I am really digging this SK.  This is what the Dark Templar should have been like.  It is really helpful for solo play.  I forgot how enjoyable the pve was in this game.  On par with wow, I might even like it a little more.  The quests feel like a lot of work was put into them. 
So hows the xpac?  I'm no where nere lvled enough to pick it up yet, but I hear it's not bad. 


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: shiznitz on April 01, 2009, 02:49:03 PM
I'm up to lvl 21 and I am really digging this SK.  This is what the Dark Templar should have been like.  It is really helpful for solo play.  I forgot how enjoyable the pve was in this game.  On par with wow, I might even like it a little more.  The quests feel like a lot of work was put into them. 
So hows the xpac?  I'm no where nere lvled enough to pick it up yet, but I hear it's not bad. 

The newest xpac is great - if you are 80. The prior xpac is good - if you are 1 (Timorous Deep) or 70 (Kunark).  The Kunark zones are a solo-fest. Kind of burned me out, actually.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on April 01, 2009, 03:23:55 PM
Yeah, the solo stuff in Kunark has been cool. Too bad there are SO MANY no-trade quest rewards for other classes. Just give me cash, fer crissakes, what is my wizard going to do with this bag full of armor?

I'll probably get TSO this fall after I'm level 80.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 02, 2009, 08:48:55 AM
Well, if you vendor it, the Kunark stuff is very very lucrative.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on April 02, 2009, 09:16:02 AM
Oh wait you said vendor, not broker.

Yeah, but just give me the money rather than fill up my bag and make me go back to sell.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Strazos on April 02, 2009, 10:03:50 PM
Ugh, I've hit a wall at 72. =/


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 03, 2009, 06:09:02 AM
Emotional wall or can't find quests? If it's the latter, check the wikia and go to reference/quests/solotimelines and it should should you were the different quest hubs are. If I remember, there are a few that you don't get references to. Also at that level, if you have a solo friendly class, you should be able to go to fens.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on April 03, 2009, 08:50:26 AM
Yeah, I sailed through 72 pretty quick, and almost 74 doing Fens. Had a couple "tough" nights where EQ2Map was broked and I couldn't see the quest icons on the minimap. I actually had to find the quest turn-ins, waaaaah. :)

I also started popping some of my vet rewards combat xp potions, because otherwise they'll just rot. Probably rot anyway on my alts, who I'm slow levelling (no combat xp, also turned off quest xp on my SK).


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: shiznitz on April 06, 2009, 04:21:31 PM
Ugh, I've hit a wall at 72. =/

Soloing in Kunark can drive you mad, but it is the fastest way to level by a long shot.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on April 07, 2009, 09:33:32 AM
It's funny how diametrically opposite our playstyles are, yet we both enjoy the same game.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: shiznitz on April 08, 2009, 09:01:01 AM
I used to be ok with soloing. Not sure what changed, but I know that going from 55-70 as fast I as I could to get raid capable was the "when".  Now, if I am not in a group or raid with Ventrilo banter going, I just want to log off.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 08, 2009, 10:36:42 AM
I used to be ok with soloing. Not sure what changed, but I know that going from 55-70 as fast I as I could to get raid capable was the "when".  Now, if I am not in a group or raid with Ventrilo banter going, I just want to log off.

That's pretty much me. Raids Tue/Wed/Sat, log in at 7:45, raid starts at 8, if we're not done called at 11. And that's pretty much all I play.

Actually it describes all the core raiders in my guild I think.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on April 08, 2009, 11:32:03 AM
I don't have that kind of time available. RL always takes precedence, and saturday night is spent with my fiancee, not gaming. Maybe a little after she leaves, but that's not something I can schedule around. Also, I would do a little on tuesdays, but that assumes she works late but her two late days shift every week. And tuesdays is also a night I could go play guitar with some guys. So are some wednesdays and some thursdays. On nights I do log in, I might play for a half-hour, I might play for three.

I've raided a couple times, but I just don't have the schedule for it...and it was the most structured, boring thing I could imagine. Sit here, do this, don't do that, rinse, repeat. Everything foreknown and plotted out, and damn you if you haven't learned it ahead of time. I really don't get why people like that gameplay so much, besides the loot being slightly more interesting.

And ventrilo, I play EQ2 to relax and get away from people talking :) I don't mind some light texting, but I talk to people all day, the only person I want to talk to at night is my fiancee or my cat...


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 08, 2009, 12:41:47 PM
I don't mind vent on raids because I know the people. I don't like voice in PUGs--people can make idiots of themselves and irritate me enough in text without voice being added in.

Our night is fridays, we relax after the week and veg. My guilds saturday raid is early to allow the more social to go out afterwards.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 08, 2009, 08:26:29 PM
Whats the expansion about?  The one on the main EQ2 page?


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 09, 2009, 08:10:43 AM
Whats the expansion about?  The one on the main EQ2 page?

The Shadow Odyssey (TSO)? It added a couple of rather irritating overland/quest zones that are mostly for getting AA and are mostly empty. Very much the "sprinkle mobs so that every single square inch is within aggro range of something" type of thing with some fairly lackluster quests.

It also brought a bunch of new dungeons and a few raids that work on a "shard" system where you collect shards for doing the instances and trade it for some armor that's really better than most of what you can get on raids. The instances are for the most part very difficult and closer to 6 person raids than the usual run around kill the bosses tank and spank stuff. There are daily quests for extra shards (the DD or daily double).

It also opened up "shadow" AA lines, which have some really wonderful toys in them, but require an insane amount of AA xp to really utilize. However, that's led to a renaissance in mentoring and old raids for the AA xp. Our guild spends at least one night a week doing 30ish to 50ish stuff. Works out great, we get AA, and our lower level members rocket up a few levels between the speed and bonus for mentoring.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Ashamanchill on April 11, 2009, 12:40:56 AM
Whats the expansion about?  The one on the main EQ2 page?

The Shadow Odyssey (TSO)? It added a couple of rather irritating overland/quest zones that are mostly for getting AA and are mostly empty. Very much the "sprinkle mobs so that every single square inch is within aggro range of something" type of thing with some fairly lackluster quests.

It also brought a bunch of new dungeons and a few raids that work on a "shard" system where you collect shards for doing the instances and trade it for some armor that's really better than most of what you can get on raids. The instances are for the most part very difficult and closer to 6 person raids than the usual run around kill the bosses tank and spank stuff. There are daily quests for extra shards (the DD or daily double).

It also opened up "shadow" AA lines, which have some really wonderful toys in them, but require an insane amount of AA xp to really utilize. However, that's led to a renaissance in mentoring and old raids for the AA xp. Our guild spends at least one night a week doing 30ish to 50ish stuff. Works out great, we get AA, and our lower level members rocket up a few levels between the speed and bonus for mentoring.

Awesome.  Any level 80s on Antonica Bayle out there who would like to mento a level 24 pally??? :heartbreak:


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: RhyssaFireheart on April 14, 2009, 03:10:53 PM
What's your char name on AB?  I play there currently as part of the guild Safe Haven.  Main char is Darema (dirge), but I also have Dareka (monk) and Soulrider (fury). 


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 14, 2009, 08:30:41 PM
Resubbed - plan is to play a rat swashbuckler.  Since its been so long I am just gonna start fresh - no idea what server or whatnot.  Still downloading the game, will create a thread once I begin.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Nebu on April 15, 2009, 12:47:56 PM
Resubbed - plan is to play a rat swashbuckler.  Since its been so long I am just gonna start fresh - no idea what server or whatnot.  Still downloading the game, will create a thread once I begin.

You can be a rat brigand and then betray, if that's what you mean.  Swashy is on the good side. 


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 15, 2009, 02:44:49 PM
You can be a rat brigand and then betray, if that's what you mean.  Swashy is on the good side. 

Yup, thats the plan.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Chinchilla on April 15, 2009, 02:48:54 PM
Oh EQ2.  Its been sooo long!  I have a Monk on a some server (not sure which) that I oh so LOVED!  I'm subbing to Warhammer as soon as I finish up this buddy key.  That is fast, furious, and fun PvP (or RvR as they call it).


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on April 15, 2009, 02:55:06 PM
wat


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 15, 2009, 06:05:22 PM
wat

wut


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: raydeen on April 15, 2009, 06:23:36 PM

wot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pqC563bX_w)


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 15, 2009, 06:29:35 PM
If you don't know the trick to betrayal, betray to kelethin, use basic biodiversity quest to grind faction, cancel and retake until you get orcs, kill 3 20 seconds away on orc hill, rinse and repeat. Takes me about 45 minutes.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Ashamanchill on April 16, 2009, 06:19:37 AM
If you don't know the trick to betrayal, betray to kelethin, use basic biodiversity quest to grind faction, cancel and retake until you get orcs, kill 3 20 seconds away on orc hill, rinse and repeat. Takes me about 45 minutes.
Thanks for the advice.  I was grinding out the crappy Qeynos ones in Freeport and almost said fuck this.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 16, 2009, 06:25:54 AM
There's a corresponding quest in neriak that's not quite as ludicrous easy, but pretty close. Nothing beats the orc one, I've always been surprised they didn't nerf it.

If you want to switch to Qeynos and I usually do because I can't find anything in Kelethin, the qeynos citizenship quest takes about half an hour. You run to antonica twice and then run around the city. Pick it up outside the mage tower.

I have a flock of white mice alts cheerfully living in Qeynos.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 16, 2009, 06:51:11 AM
Changed my mind on the rat thing - I  am gonna try an Ogre Warden.  I am still betraying; something about an Ogre in the good city just makes me smile!


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 16, 2009, 08:07:11 AM
There was an ogre warden in our raid last night. Except they had a dark elf illusion on all the time.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 16, 2009, 10:23:32 AM
So far things are ok, relearning stuff and all that jazz.  Raped my previous characters - got a few plat to play with along with a ton of containers and whatnot.  Warden has been fun so far, we will see how things progress!  I had a heck of a time finding a good description on the classes.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on April 16, 2009, 11:20:34 AM
I've been playing my new Inq the last couple nights, he's a friggin' monster. Sliced through those undead healer ^^ heroics in Tim Deep when they were only one level below him, just using App1 spells (might have had one or two adepts from drops). Main thing is power management, he goes oom pretty quick jumping between nuking, debuffs and heals.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: shiznitz on April 16, 2009, 12:43:11 PM
Changed my mind on the rat thing - I  am gonna try an Ogre Warden.  I am still betraying; something about an Ogre in the good city just makes me smile!

Betraying just adds a layer of tedium to the whole thing. I don't get it.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 16, 2009, 01:12:11 PM
Changed my mind on the rat thing - I  am gonna try an Ogre Warden.  I am still betraying; something about an Ogre in the good city just makes me smile!

Betraying just adds a layer of tedium to the whole thing. I don't get it.

I have issues.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 17, 2009, 08:28:41 AM
If you time it right you can grind xp on the orcs while you do the quest.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 17, 2009, 09:14:48 AM
If you don't know the trick to betrayal, betray to kelethin, use basic biodiversity quest to grind faction, cancel and retake until you get orcs, kill 3 20 seconds away on orc hill, rinse and repeat. Takes me about 45 minutes.

What level do I start this, and where does quest begin?


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on April 17, 2009, 09:58:15 AM
grind xp
:oh_i_see:


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 17, 2009, 11:20:33 AM
You can start it almost anytime. I think the orcs are around level 10?


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 17, 2009, 06:06:29 PM
Started betrayal, its just as bad as previous version.  Basically I am doing quests from the dude in the Common lands, southern tower.  No idea where that quest you mention is located - spent a couple hours so far working it and still need 50k rep.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Nebu on April 17, 2009, 06:17:09 PM
That's a lot of grinding just to be a semi-special snowflake.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 17, 2009, 06:30:31 PM
That's a lot of grinding just to be a semi-special snowflake.

Was a big mistake.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Nebu on April 17, 2009, 06:36:12 PM
You know that ratonga brigand I have?  It was going to be a swash.  After a few runs I thought "screw this".  I understand man.  I do. 


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 17, 2009, 07:15:25 PM
Fun fact - you cannot share items when in middle of Betrayal.  :)  I am going to roll a Fairy for now until I figure out what to do with my other dude.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 17, 2009, 07:52:51 PM
The betrayal quest is in Kelethin, not Qeynos. It's under the kelethin betrayal timeline on the eqi wikia. You do a few quests to get set up then get your faction from an NPC at The Green Knoll.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Murgos on April 20, 2009, 02:27:05 PM
When I betrayed my High-Elf to Freeport I teamed up with a higher level Wizzie.  We would just round up all the orcs in an area and run in circles while nuking em down.

Betraying only took a couple of hours.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: shiznitz on April 20, 2009, 03:50:14 PM
When I betrayed my High-Elf to Freeport I teamed up with a higher level Wizzie.  We would just round up all the orcs in an area and run in circles while nuking em down.

Betraying only took a couple of hours.

I just want to reiterate that since race and city plays so little effect on your character, this seems like two hours that could have been spent getting 2-4 levels. That said, hooray for those of you who really want to play an Ogre Templar or some such.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Nebu on April 20, 2009, 04:34:53 PM
Betraying only took a couple of hours.

This is why MMO's are messed up.  Two hours that could have been spent doing something both more fun and more interesting. 



Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Murgos on April 22, 2009, 10:10:41 AM
This is why MMO's are messed up.  Two hours that could have been spent doing something both more fun and more interesting. 

Agreed.  However, as far as MMO cockblocks go that one is pretty minor.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 22, 2009, 10:48:41 AM
As far as quests are concerned, I actually found the citizenship/betrayal quests one of the better lines in EQ2.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Hawkbit on April 22, 2009, 01:06:50 PM
Doesn't betrayal offer AA xp as well? 


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 22, 2009, 02:15:05 PM
Pretty sure. And if you know you're going to do it, killing the orcs for the quest will bag you XP as well.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Falconeer on April 23, 2009, 02:49:01 AM
I logged in back after more than 2 years of absence and found my berserker at 62. Took me very little to bring her at 64, I am impressed by that. Even more impressed by AAs and AA xp: I had 14 and by doing green quests I already got 6 more. And AAs are now meaningful. Back in the days, when they were introduced, they were annoyingly uselss. Now the STR path and 20 points spent on it made my berserker a crit machine. That is cool.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: RhyssaFireheart on April 23, 2009, 02:21:56 PM
You only had 14 AA at level 62?  Best suggestion to get more AA is to mentor way down and go on a named killing spree while picking up any quests you may have missed.  That should garner you a fair amount as well, plus add to the xp totals.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 23, 2009, 03:39:27 PM
I am having a blast.  Finally settled on a rat/brigand.  New noob area completely pwns the old one; I actually began on the old one and ended up just running to the new one!  Lag seems to have automagically cleared up without me making any graphic changes.  No idea why, unless there was a sekret patch I missed.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Falconeer on April 23, 2009, 03:44:09 PM
You only had 14 AA at

I was already 60 when they introduced AAs  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Hawkbit on April 23, 2009, 08:41:41 PM
I am having a blast.  Finally settled on a rat/brigand.  New noob area completely pwns the old one; I actually began on the old one and ended up just running to the new one!  Lag seems to have automagically cleared up without me making any graphic changes.  No idea why, unless there was a sekret patch I missed.
They opened up extra core support a few months back, which put shadows and other processes on the other cores. 

The game plays smooth like butter now.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 23, 2009, 08:59:38 PM
Screwed around with crafting tonight - WOOT.  Takes a little bit to learn the basics, but it sure is fun.  Not sure if doing a second character would be as fun, would seem tedious.  BUT... first character is definitely worth keeping up with!


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 24, 2009, 05:55:33 AM
Quote
They opened up extra core support a few months back, which put shadows and other processes on the other cores.

And Real Soon Now shadows are moving to the video card.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Cheddar on April 24, 2009, 06:43:07 AM
Also, I wub the market.  Christ, I made 30 gold in lik 5 minutes!


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on April 24, 2009, 07:13:00 AM
Well someone is definitely making money from me. I'm chronically behind on my AA and I'm an MT shaman so I really need to get those upper level mystic AAs, so off to the market I go to buy up those collectible shinies.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Nebu on April 24, 2009, 07:18:40 AM
Ched,

Do the crafting quests.  They are timed and can be a fun way to both raise skill and play beat the clock.  If you're in a guild, they're even more helpful.

By the way, I hate you.  You're making me want to start playing again. 


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on April 24, 2009, 08:16:05 AM
protip: fastest selling stuff on the market is plant food.

Just about everything I put up there will move eventually, but plant food always moves first. On Oasis, it goes for 1-5gp depending. I can always count on a steady 10-50gp or so if I'm out hunting with my wizard, and I used to just toss the stuff out!

My latest market has been the next-to-the-last wizard root. I was putting an Ad1 up and noticed there were no Ad3s. Priced the 1 at 1pp and whipped up a few 3s and marked 'em 5pp. They sell slow, but paying 1pp for the rare makes for a nice profit. I had one competitor last month, undercut war until it got down to 1p50s, I said "fuck it" and marked mine back to 5pp. The next day his was gone and I had sold one at 5pp. I had a nice laugh.

If I were more seriouser about it, I'd track what Ad3s were commanding solid prices and sit on them, but eh.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on April 24, 2009, 01:43:47 PM
Speaking of brokers, I was mildly annoyed at the Zam ad they were pushing through the launcher....but holy Zam upgrades. Searching the broker across servers? I searched for the Shackle I mentioned in the last post, the search looks borken (http://eq2.zam.com/db/broker.html?server=oasis&name=Shackle&tier=MASTERCRAFTED&minsold=&vname=&level=&level_2=&price=&price_2=&market=&type=&class=&stat1=0&statval1=), but I'd have to check in-game. I haven't logged into my wiz to see if mine's sold, but I was the only one with a single shackle up there last week.

Fake edit: yeah, there's a bug in there. Here's Cav's current store (http://eq2.zam.com/db/broker.html?server=oasis&name=&minsold=&vname=Caviglia&level=&level_2=&price=&price_2=&market=&type=&class=&stat1=0&statval1=). Vith's (http://eq2.zam.com/db/broker.html?server=oasis&name=&minsold=&vname=Vith&level=&level_2=&price=&price_2=&market=&type=&class=&stat1=0&statval1=) looks ok. Other than both of them being sadly empty because I haven't adventured outside my alts in a couple weeks :)

I see my 5p is by far the highest across any server....maybe I don't like this new Zam!! Pay up, bitches, supply and demand!

Fake edit 2: Oooh, the item db is linked to the broker info (http://eq2.zam.com/db/item.html?eq2item=E74595550E12B3B11257E57B69B1420A)! That's nifty!

Checking out their wiki, it's pretty slow. But I think I like it better than the eq2.wikia. Might have to spin Zam as my homepage ingame for a while. Wish they'd tone down the ads, but eh, whatchagonnado..


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on June 18, 2009, 10:48:28 AM
There's a 14 day freebie promotion going on if you have an Iksar. So my main account is not eligible, but that new alt account is. Going to log in just to grab the +25% run speed cloak for Iksar!


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Soukyan on August 15, 2009, 02:16:20 PM
Okay. So I am considering subscribing again in the fall. Please refresh my memory with the "essential" add-ons for this game if any of you have a moment.

EQII client from SOE
EQ2Map?
UI Mods?
etc.

Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Hawkbit on August 15, 2009, 10:40:57 PM
The client and EQ2maps are the only ones I use. 

I resubbed a few weeks back, went from 44 to 56.  In the middle of the Peacock Club sequence but it's getting harder to solo.  Thinking of heading to Tenebrous and/or Island of Mara as the solo timelines say. 


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on August 16, 2009, 12:28:05 AM
I only use EQ2 Map. There used to be a POI plugin, not sure if it's necessary any more.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on August 16, 2009, 12:45:32 AM
If you're a healer, ProfitUI is nearly essential. It has a full cure readout for the entire raid and for me as a mystic, it shows much much is left on my wards which lets me time recasts. If you're not healing, well it's generally a nice UI, but you don't need it.

I run with that and EQ2maps.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: RhyssaFireheart on August 16, 2009, 12:00:45 PM
Yeah, I only run ProfitUI and EQ2 maps, that's pretty much all you need, IMO.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Kirth on August 17, 2009, 11:46:34 AM
SOE should just hire the guy who made ProfitUI.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on August 17, 2009, 12:05:18 PM
And the guy doing EQ2 Map.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Rendakor on October 18, 2009, 08:28:51 PM
RISE FROM THE DEAD!

Thinking about resubbing; I quit before TSO came out. What's new besides the 200 AA cap (and new tree)?

Are there any details on the forthcoming expansion?


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Simond on October 27, 2009, 02:29:21 PM
Next expansion will be Odus,called Sentinel's Fate (http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Sentinel%27s_Fate), and is due for release spring next year. It will also have New Halas patched in as free content simultaneously.

Short form of recent changes:
A lot of small improvements and cockblock removal (improved chances for named to spawn instead of placeholders, etc).
Aggro meter added to UI.
Spell lines tiers are now a lot clearer (Spell Name I -> II -> III etc rather than similar but different names, and the old "Apprentice I - IV, Adept I - III, Master I - II" is now "Apprentice, Journeyman, Adept, Expert, Master, Grandmaster".
Research Assistant NPCs added to, well, research (improve) spells for PC. (i.e. upgrading an Adept to Expert spell)
Self-mentoring added.
A bunch of nodrop stuff changed to Heirloom (i.e. Bind To Account).
Lavastorm revamped, including a quest line that ends up with a faction vendor that sells a living magma war-rhino.  :drill:
Shadows can now be run on the GPU of a videocard rather than hogging the CPU.
All houses gained a free room and improved item counts.
Old Achievements are now AAs, and an AA slider has been added ("Send z% of my xp to AA bar" so you can leave combat xp on and send it all to the AA bar instead of locking it, for example).
WoW/X-box style Achievements added.
Guild halls added (may have been before you quit, possibly).
Multicore support added (as above).


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on October 27, 2009, 03:05:34 PM
Ooo, I missed the AA slider! Kinda cheapens AA, but eh.

Lavastorm also has some quest vanity plate that looks wicked on my wizard when he has his fire aura going, avatar of Ro!


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Soln on February 16, 2010, 05:32:59 PM
arise?  I'm thinking of heading back for the 3rd or 4th time.  Stupid dabbler questions:

1) how easy to level?
2) how much a CPU hog is it?  Runs Ok on Win7?
3) is there any hope of finding a group for lowbies? i.e. lvl20ish
4) is there a henchmen system or something to help with group-only quests? (I remember there were a lot)


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on February 16, 2010, 06:13:51 PM
1) how easy to level?

Very

2) how much a CPU hog is it?  Runs Ok on Win7?

It's a terror on CPU but they have moved some things to the GPU and it supports a second core. Runs great under Win 7.

3) is there any hope of finding a group for lowbies? i.e. lvl20ish

Groups begin at 80.

4) is there a henchmen system or something to help with group-only quests? (I remember there were a lot)

Higher ups can mentor you, no NPC henchcritters, but they did a lot of redesign and its easy to solo level through quests.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Redgiant on February 17, 2010, 01:13:14 PM
Come to Antonius Bayle server, and join The Grubs guild: http://www.thegrubs.com

Falwell here on f13 is the GL.

A bnuch of their regulars transferred here a few months ago in preparation for the new expansion. And a few like me rerrolled new characters. I got to 80 in a month solo, with a few guild HQ runs along the way. You won't notice or need a group until 80, quest content is more than enough and of course they make it much easier and streamlined to solo the more they pile on the xpacs and level max (now 90 with he new SF expansion).

Some guys in the guild who know the ropes and have the RAF (refer a friend) bouns xp as well, went from 1-80 in like a few days.

There's a lot of people on, 8 instances of the xpac starting zone are up right now.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on February 17, 2010, 01:23:39 PM
I got to 80 in a month solo, with a few guild HQ runs along the way. You won't notice or need a group until 80
:awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Nebu on February 17, 2010, 02:34:32 PM
Damn, I've played on and off for years and don't have anything near 80. 

I need more free time and fewer collection quests. 


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on February 17, 2010, 04:00:42 PM
I got my wizard to 75 last year :) 80 is overrated imo, game is over at that point  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: RhyssaFireheart on February 18, 2010, 01:47:26 AM
Even after playing since November 2007 on Antonia Bayle (not Antonius), I still have only one level 80 char (well, she's 81 now with the xpack).  My next highest char is only 70 and that was achieved recently (like back in January).  After that is a pair of level 40 alts.  I much prefer not leveling like a madman and missing out on lots of fun stuff along the way.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Draegan on February 18, 2010, 10:02:26 AM
I could never get passed level 20!  The graphics, sounds, animations etc etc just don't appeal to me at all and end up irritating me.  Maybe it is the game's font too.  I duno.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on February 18, 2010, 10:23:55 AM
I like the graphics but moving to 1080p I probably crippled myself for shadows again :(

Forgot to cancel LotRO so it took $30 out of my mmo account, so basically no more mmo this season (since LotRO is pretty boring to me). Boo.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Nebu on February 18, 2010, 10:28:06 AM
Forgot to cancel LotRO so it took $30 out of my mmo account, so basically no more mmo this season (since LotRO is pretty boring to me). Boo.

Damn!  I was hoping to maybe play a little EQ2 with you this spring. 

I too left LotRO.  I like what it wants to do, but the game just lacks any kind of flair.  The world is pretty but the pacing seems oddly off.  I just don't feel any sense of urgency when I quest or am in combat.  I can't really explain it. 


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on February 18, 2010, 12:04:08 PM
I think they moved the shadows to the GPU, so they should be a lot more tolerable.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Soln on February 18, 2010, 02:29:25 PM
thanks folks I'll definitely think about this.  I too need a break from LotRO.  My biggest gripe about EQ2 was always technical, so here's hoping it's smoother.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Ard on February 18, 2010, 03:38:25 PM
I resubbed for the expansion, after missing the last couple.  Never managed to get a character past 30.  We'll see if it goes any better this time around or not, but my ADD tends to get the better of me with this game.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on February 18, 2010, 03:57:21 PM
Only reason I got my wizard to 75 is I got tired of not having money for dicking around with crafting :) My "main" is 45 or 46 (my SK). I just (rightly) figured the wiz would be easier to level pump (still mostly questing and exploring, because I can't help but play my way) without needing armor and weapon upgrades constantly, spell upgrades were much less painful imo.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Ard on February 18, 2010, 04:12:29 PM
Yeah, crafting + collections + exploring + AA's tend to get the better of me with this game.  That and rolling alts.  AO has the same effect on me.  Seems like I always get mired in an overly long early level process in those two games.  I've already set my AA xp to 100% at level 10.  Oops.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Redgiant on February 18, 2010, 04:59:06 PM
I"m defintely more of a 'take your time' type too. I was just saying that if you want to get to the level where groups are easy to come by (80+), you can without grouping on the way up (not because you don't like to group, but cbecause you cannot depend on others being available/wanting to group).

And it can take you anywhere from a week (if you have no life and play all the time and know all the tricks and have Refer A Friend or any other bonus xp), or months if you take your time.

When I went from 1-80 on my Illusionist, I soloed everything, did quests (I never really grinded any mobs except for when a quest needed  me to), and did some HQs and group stuff with guildies mainly to get enough guild status points for guild level 30 (for guild hall reasons).

I bought EQ2 when it came out, and quickly found that (a) it was unplayable due to lag, and (b) for someone who came from EQ1 and the expectations, it did not measure up. So I quit years ago, only to return a few nonths ago as practically a total noob. I had no idea what had happened to the game, zones added, dungeon names or levels, what 'shards' are for and why they are screaming for groups for them in the 70-80 chat channel, what an 'HQ' or 'Writ' is, etc.

EQ2 today seems like a far, far cry from the mess it was in the first year that I recall. Lots more content, at all levels. LIke I said, I leveled up on quests at all times, never a shortage. And the move to re-introduce (in a re-imagined way, I might add for anyone from EQ1), most of the old zones and continents: Kunark, Faydwer, Plane of Sky, Ro Deserts, LoY/Gunthak areas, and with the new expansion you get Erudin (The Hole, Paineel, Kerra Isle, etc) back. Halas is coming in a future GU update I hear.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Numtini on February 18, 2010, 05:13:25 PM
For leveling, EQ2 isn't on rails the same way that WoW is, but those same rails are there just under the dust and if you get a solid guide to them and follow the dots on eq2maps, you can level in the same fast efficient way. Even more if you have something with invisibility/stealth and speed--my dirge leveled like crazy through guided quest grinding even though they're generally considered sub-par as soloists.

I don't know why anyone would want to do it that way if you didn't have a raid guild waiting at the end. But if you want to, the option is definitely there. I'd say faster than WoW.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Soln on February 18, 2010, 06:21:20 PM
I really really hated the chained-grouped mobs.  My swashie was always getting owned by 2xwhites or a hord of greys.  If the money/time curve is reasonable from 20->50 let's say, I'll be happy. 


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Soln on February 18, 2010, 07:09:59 PM
their deal is amazing: $20 and 2 free months will all expansions


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Ard on February 18, 2010, 07:11:53 PM
They pretty significantly upped the leveling time a while back if you're specifically after raw leveling speed. They very specifically addressed the level range you're talking about with something they're calling the golden path, which basically helps guide your progression.

http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=470776
http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=470271

There were more details somewhere, but it currently leads up to like level 30 or 40.  I can't remember for sure, and I'm too lazy to go digging through the eq2 forums for it right now.  It applies to the newer leveling areas though, leading from kelethin, neriak, and whatever the kunark area was called.

Also, if you're starting a new account, make sure you get a referral for some pretty large bonuses, and if not, don't forget you have xp potions as a veteran reward.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Soln on February 18, 2010, 11:24:13 PM
I have literally spent the last 1.5 hrs installing and trying to get this mother fucking Station Launcher to work AND then to try and renew my sub.  I bought the Complete Collection as a box in the hope of a fast install.  The install went fine (I have nothing else on this Win7 box but MSOffice and LotRO) but the shortcuts give me a broken link to a dud launcher version.  Once I figured how to get around that (sweet out of the box experience) the fucking shitastic billing service keeps asking for CC's and then repeats.  You can see the cards in the handy "Payment Sources" but you can't fucking apply them to the game you want... Oh and don't try this in Safari.

"How the fuck can they stay in the business like this?"  prolly the same words I said in "12/13/04" when it seems I first registered


Edit: endless loop -- keeps asking for credit cards, keep entering them until I have to repeat them and then I get the message "card already on file".  Fucking clownshoes.  How the fuck do they let this go on

UPDATE: problem is my country on file is CDN but all my payment types are US.  You have to call SOE to get them to change the currency/country code.  Players can't.  They will need the CC# from your last purchases.  Fun stuff.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on February 19, 2010, 10:08:13 AM
I really really hated the chained-grouped mobs.  My swashie was always getting owned by 2xwhites or a hord of greys.  If the money/time curve is reasonable from 20->50 let's say, I'll be happy. 
That's one of my least favorite things about the game. Even if you can build a good character that can handle heroic mobs, linking them together makes it almost impossible. I use the Wailing Caves as a testbed. Only my monk can pwn that place, because he can FD between mobs. Pick off the minor mobs then take out the named for the lewtz. Not to mention feign travelling, run through the dungeon training the hell out of the mobs and then FD to clear them all off; rinse and repeat.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Redgiant on February 22, 2010, 08:22:40 PM
For leveling, EQ2 isn't on rails the same way that WoW is, but those same rails are there just under the dust and if you get a solid guide to them and follow the dots on eq2maps, you can level in the same fast efficient way. Even more if you have something with invisibility/stealth and speed--my dirge leveled like crazy through guided quest grinding even though they're generally considered sub-par as soloists.

I don't know why anyone would want to do it that way if you didn't have a raid guild waiting at the end. But if you want to, the option is definitely there. I'd say faster than WoW.

Yes, WoW > EQ2 now >>> EQ2 when launched, as far as leveling, content completeness and ability to solo or group at your discretion.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Redgiant on February 23, 2010, 01:13:16 PM
Comments about lack of quest coverage to 90.

Moved: http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=18813.0


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Signe on June 11, 2010, 12:29:39 PM
If anyone is playing and is in Bat Country on Oasis, could you invite my character named Twee?  I don't know how long I'll be playing, but I might as well be in the guild while I do.  I promise not to mock you too much for inviting a character with a naff name like Twee.  I think pretty much all my other characters are in it unless Sky has booted me for something I've forgotten I've said or some lie I've accidentally made up about  him. 


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on June 11, 2010, 01:22:01 PM
Lt Dan did it.

Just kidding - I haven't booted anyone. I'd invite you but I haven't been subbed for months now. Everyone else has invite and promote privs, but I doubt anyone is playing and still in BC. Most people who played semi-regularly joined actual real guilds with benefits. I think that means sex.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Signe on June 11, 2010, 05:43:40 PM
It's not right that you can't invite your own alts! 

I blame everything on Lt Dan, too.  I'm sure he doesn't mind!


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Rendakor on July 22, 2010, 12:15:36 AM
I'm thinking about resubbing again. Anyone here know if the endgame got more casual friendly in Sentinel's Fate? I haven't played since RoK (barring a 1 month resub during TSO), but for a casual there wasn't a lot to do at 80.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sauced on July 22, 2010, 12:58:50 AM
I'm thinking about resubbing again. Anyone here know if the endgame got more casual friendly in Sentinel's Fate? I haven't played since RoK (barring a 1 month resub during TSO), but for a casual there wasn't a lot to do at 80.

The SF solo lines are a bit more interesting than the TSO ones, and The Hole is supposed to support 2 or 3 person groups really well, although I haven't had a chance to try it yet.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Sky on July 22, 2010, 10:28:38 AM
but for a casual there wasn't a lot to do at 80.
Don't rush to the endgame :)

I rushed my wizard (for my pace, anyway) just to get some cash and make harvesting easier for my crafters; he's only 75. My "main" SK is still in the mid-40s.


Title: Re: So I'm resubbing
Post by: Rendakor on July 22, 2010, 05:38:44 PM
Well, I'm coming from WoW where currently you can at least see endgame raid content in a PuG (and have been able to complete content for the entire expansion cycle), and which also has a substantial single-group progression model. When I last played, EQ2 had maybe...6, 7 single group dungeons that were 75+ in RoK, and no PuG raiding scene beyond SoH trash runs.

The other problem with not rushing to the cap is that I'm out of character slots; I've got 6 (7? whatever the max is) toons all 50+, so rerolling isn't really an option.