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Title: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 03, 2009, 11:41:06 AM
http://www.the-west.net/

Looks interesting and well-constructed. I've just started playing.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: Samwise on March 03, 2009, 12:26:26 PM
Looks like it could be good.  Keep us posted; if you don't hate it a month from now I'll figure it's worth trying.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: sidereal on March 03, 2009, 10:43:26 PM
One interesting factoid.  Instead of going with the replenishing point pool method of activity control, which lets you pick when you want to do your stuff during the day, this game actually has you do stuff in realtime.  So if you need to pick cotton for a quest (and you do) and it takes an hour with walking time, it really takes an hour.  More like Eve's realtime skillup system, except applied to everything.  Haven't decided if I like it.  Probably not.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: Xanthippe on March 04, 2009, 08:07:48 AM
What world are you on?  Or does it matter?


Title: Re: The West
Post by: Xanthippe on March 04, 2009, 08:16:39 AM
Whoops nevermind, I just saw that Xanthippe is assigned to world 7.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: LK on March 05, 2009, 02:22:05 AM
I'll build a village and let you know. I'm fascinated by it: when you are out and about you can be engaged, but your character needs to sleep after his energy is expended. So when you go to bed, your character goes to bed.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 06, 2009, 12:45:10 PM
What world?


Title: Re: The West
Post by: LK on March 06, 2009, 01:19:00 PM
7.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: LK on March 06, 2009, 11:34:24 PM
They are starting two new worlds on Monday and Tuesday. I can see myself playing this awhile so I'm going to run a character on 7 and on 8. I'd like to get started on a fresh territory and use the World 7 one as a sort of... "What to do."

Edit: Building my first town. It literally takes 8 hours and afterwards you'll have to rest for another 8 hours or so because of the consumed energy. Towns are a serious investment though. It's the only place to sell items to make more money, and the only place you can rest up to get energy back quicker. I'm curious as to if there is secondary income or the such if people stay at your hotel or sell at your store. Would be neat.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: Pezzle on March 08, 2009, 04:18:57 PM
Still playing this game, though I do not find it terribly interesting.  Once your town is going can I join it?  In exchange I am happy to help out with whatever.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: LK on March 08, 2009, 04:48:02 PM
You can join my town. It's The Outback, just telegram Lorekeep. However I should warn you that I'm going to put more of my focus into World 8 once it comes live since it'll be fresh. I'll even do some RMT to show I'm SERIOUSSSSSS.

But yeah, to me, World 7 is Beta and World 8 is Retail.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: Pezzle on March 08, 2009, 05:47:26 PM
Ok, I will wait on world 8 then.  You may as well benefit from whatever effort I put in.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: LK on March 08, 2009, 09:45:35 PM
Sure. Making a town is expensive. It only costs $300 to start but to get your first building requires upwards of 2000 cash. Not so much if you have everyone donating money, but kinda expensive if you're doing it by yourself.

However, it is definitely a warm feeling when you create the only hotel in the area. But I'm curious if you make any money when people use your stuff. Towns as a complete money sink seems meh.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: schild on March 08, 2009, 09:52:10 PM
I'll start on world 8 with you all tomorrow.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: LK on March 08, 2009, 11:01:38 PM
My best advice is to just follow the quests until it puts you up against a cockblock (Get a Donkey / Do Turkey Job) that requires you to be min. Lv 15 or something.

I made it to Lv. 9 pretty fast then things... slowed... doooooown. But Lv. 10 is where you can pick a class.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: LK on March 08, 2009, 11:37:49 PM
World 8 should be going up 7 am on Monday.

Should we make Bat Country?


Title: Re: The West
Post by: schild on March 08, 2009, 11:40:30 PM
Sure!


Title: Re: The West
Post by: Xuri on March 09, 2009, 03:08:21 AM
I'll join ya.


Title: Re: The West
Post by: Le0 on March 09, 2009, 03:14:31 AM
Me too!

edit: Just started on world 7 to test the game. What is the best skills to get? I'm not too sure harvesting sugar atm !


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 03:39:51 AM
Me too!

edit: Just started on world 7 to test the game. What is the best skills to get? I'm not too sure harvesting sugar atm !
I think it'll be a learning experience for everyone come monday. We tend to organize decently though when a game doesn't suck wind through a tailpipe.

Edit: And I think it's safe to assume that we should let Lorekeep take the reins on this one.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xuri on March 09, 2009, 07:44:08 AM
Meh. It's been "today" for 14 hours already, and no world 8 yet.
The news/forum post says:
Quote
"World 8 will start today between 15:30 and 16:00 server time."

But I have no idea where the server is located.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 07:47:14 AM
Meh. It's been "today" for 14 hours already, and no world 8 yet.
The news/forum post says:
Quote
"World 8 will start today between 15:30 and 16:00 server time."

But I have no idea where the server is located.

German company, so I'd suspect somewhere between 8 and 10am EST. Maybe.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 09, 2009, 08:55:59 AM
I'm level 8 on World 7 as Xanthippe.  I'm stuck, I guess.  I have two quests in my book, but lack the labor points to do either.  How do I get more labor points?

To make a new gal on World 8, do I make a new account?

What part of the world is your town on World 7?


Title: Re: The West
Post by: Xanthippe on March 09, 2009, 08:57:19 AM
Me too!

edit: Just started on world 7 to test the game. What is the best skills to get? I'm not too sure harvesting sugar atm !

I don't know anything about this although I've been playing a few days.  I don't even know what the different classes are or what they mean.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 09, 2009, 09:20:35 AM
It's the 10th here already and world 8 still isn't up. I didn't know it was possible to live more than 24 hours into the future!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 09, 2009, 09:22:42 AM
Yeah, I was looking for world 8 too. I started a guy just now on world 7 to get an idea of what the game is about. I expect I'll delete or abandon him once world 8 is up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 09:23:03 AM
It's the 10th here already and world 8 still isn't up. I didn't know it was possible to live more than 24 hours into the future!

So, what's the future like?


Title: Re: The West
Post by: LK on March 09, 2009, 09:33:34 AM
Me too!

edit: Just started on world 7 to test the game. What is the best skills to get? I'm not too sure harvesting sugar atm !

It depends on what you want to do later on down the line. Thankfully when you hit Lv. 14 you can respec slowly over time. For now I found Charisma to be a good stat to raise as Trading, Leadership, Animal Instinct and the such are good stuff for low level missions. Hang onto your skill points until you need them for a specific quest to advance.

Meh. It's been "today" for 14 hours already, and no world 8 yet.
The news/forum post says:
Quote
"World 8 will start today between 15:30 and 16:00 server time."

But I have no idea where the server is located.

As of this post it was between 15:30 and 16:00 server time. So any minute now.

I'm level 8 on World 7 as Xanthippe.  I'm stuck, I guess.  I have two quests in my book, but lack the labor points to do either.  How do I get more labor points?

To make a new gal on World 8, do I make a new account?

What part of the world is your town on World 7?

Do a search for Lorekeep or The Outback. We're located in the bottom left corner of the world, one grid right of the southwest corner, towards the southwest corner of that grid point (so all the way at the bottom and one grid right of the very west grids). No need to make a new account, it seems.

I'm hoping when we start on World 8 we are all located at a central location.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 09:52:14 AM
World 8 just went up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hoax on March 09, 2009, 09:54:23 AM
Will create an account tonight if I can remember and find the time.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 09, 2009, 09:54:56 AM
I'm on the easternmost side of the game, 3 grids down. Doesn't necessarily mean where the town should be founded as I hate walls.

Just follow the quests at the beginning.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 09:57:59 AM
Where I started:
(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/starting_location.png)

I like being far away from everything in any game though.

Edit: Time to shower, Sugar is 30 fucking minutes away.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 09, 2009, 10:01:55 AM
I'm directly north of Schild almost at the top of the map. Oh - character name Regg.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 09, 2009, 10:08:53 AM
I cant seem to join world 8. All worlds are Grey to me except 7.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 10:09:25 AM
Lorekeep, is it worth scouting out an area of town based on resources and such and then have everyone go there, or does all that shit not matter and a town is self-sufficient.

I suppose I'm asking, how does the town system work. Do want to craft.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 09, 2009, 10:12:36 AM
I am a bit north east of Schild


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 09, 2009, 10:26:58 AM
Town system is self sufficient. All you need is cash. However the best "spots" are only visible when you're higher level as you can't see the good jobs until you get higher up.

So nothing worth scouting just yet. I'd focus on getting to Lv. 10 which will take awhile given there are no hotels to rest at. The Energy Premium is really good here.

Bloodworth: Click 8. It's grey because they have an extra confirmation due to only 8 or 9 being playable, not both.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 10:28:14 AM
Ok, I just queued up Sugar for too little time. I just added 10 minutes to the queue as a second item, does that mean I'll have to walk 20 minutes agani? If so, I'll just cancel and hope for the best. Yargh. I have 4 minutes to get an answer before I leave my fate in this weird game's hands.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 09, 2009, 10:29:39 AM
Town system is self sufficient. All you need is cash. However the best "spots" are only visible when you're higher level as you can't see the good jobs until you get higher up.

So nothing worth scouting just yet. I'd focus on getting to Lv. 10 which will take awhile given there are no hotels to rest at. The Energy Premium is really good here.

Bloodworth: Click 8. It's grey because they have an extra confirmation due to only 8 or 9 being playable, not both.

Yeah, i figured it out, i'm in. Grabbing some sugar.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 09, 2009, 10:30:17 AM
I made that same mistake a little while ago on my world 7 guy. If you haven't moved you'll still be in the sugar field so there won't be any travel time.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 10:31:13 AM
I made that same mistake a little while ago on my world 7 guy. If you haven't moved you'll still be in the sugar field so there won't be any travel time.

Thank the lordy. How do I know when I've gotten the sugar? Will it show up in my inventory?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 09, 2009, 10:31:38 AM
Ah travel time, why hitting 10 minutes means 30. Thanks!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 10:33:53 AM
46 Minutes to cotton. I could not have started in a worse place. I swear I'll be in the dead center when I finish the newbie quest chain.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 09, 2009, 10:34:32 AM
Yeah, it shows up in inventory. I checked that after I picked tobacco. What I'm curious about is what happens if we don't get sugar after 30 minutes? Is it just a random chance thing so we should start up another 30 minute job and hope for the best? Or does the chance of getting some sugar gradually increase as you spend more time at it?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 10:37:59 AM
I got it in 10 minutes. I guess we'll find out when someone here gets screwed. I already tried reading their forums and their admin is an annoying hag of a woman and the users are some of the worst I've encountered in a webgame that takes some modicum of planning. I'm never, ever going back in there.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 09, 2009, 10:44:45 AM
Guess i need a horse to lower the travel time tack on to jobs.

Also the help is rather useful. (http://en8.the-west.net/help.php)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 09, 2009, 10:50:47 AM
It's best to do it for 30 minutes since it's a more efficient use of time for energy. 10 minutes I guess you can do if you want to take your chances getting an item, but I always consider myself planning all my actions in 30 minute blocks.

Yeah I noticed some of the resources are really spread out.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 10:51:49 AM
It's best to do it for 30 minutes since it's a more efficient use of time for energy. 10 minutes I guess you can do if you want to take your chances getting an item, but I always consider myself planning all my actions in 30 minute blocks.

Yeah I noticed some of the resources are really spread out.
Thankfully, now that I'm going to the middle of the map (and am, apparently, carrying an entire tavern full of quest givers in a pouch or someshit), I'm going to be closer to a lot more resources than I was when I started. I am OK with this.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 09, 2009, 10:53:12 AM
(and am, apparently, carrying an entire tavern full of quest givers in a pouch or someshit)

I was finding this odd too.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 09, 2009, 10:53:24 AM
Guess i need a horse to lower the travel time tack on to jobs.

Also the help is rather useful. (http://en8.the-west.net/help.php)

Your first "horse" which is required for a quest will be a donkey. It can be obtained in a Town's General Store Lv. 1. BUT... if it's not a town you are a part of, it will cost 4 times as much. So it normally costs $1000 or $250 at your store.

Plus, all those items you're getting can't be sold until someone gets a town with a General Store up. It's going to be pretty nice and even for awhile until we all amass the appropriate amount of cash to get a real town going.

Bleh, it's taking the awhile to credit my account with Premium nuggets.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 09, 2009, 10:55:57 AM
Times is hard in the west it seems.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 09, 2009, 11:07:10 AM
Well I got my sugar at the last possible second (ie. right at 30 minutes) so it looks like if there's a 100 percent chance of getting it in a certain time and you don't get lucky enough to get it earlier it will just give it to you at the end of the time.

Cotton picking only has a 50 percent chance of working in 30 minutes though. I've got a 40 minute walk to get to some so I've set myself up to pick for an hour. I'll check back later I guess.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 09, 2009, 11:16:06 AM
This game needs a gadget.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 09, 2009, 11:21:53 AM
Just an FYI: Later on you'll need to do some jobs to raise your level without quests. Go Sugar Cane. You need a lot for a quest later on and the stuff is the best return on investment.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 11:26:05 AM
I didn't get sugar in the first 10 minutes, but I got a broken wine bottle that's worth more than everything in my inventory and my wallet combined.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 12:42:15 PM
1 hour spent on cotton, NUTHIN.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 09, 2009, 12:49:34 PM
One hour and got a cotton. The next quest is to get to level 2 so I guess I'm off to pick more sugar. Putting up posters is far too scary and dangerous!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 09, 2009, 12:50:16 PM
1 hour spent on cotton, NUTHIN.

Games random as shit then, because i set mine to 10, and got one. I'm currently working on level 2, gettin' some sugar.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 12:53:31 PM
Heh, if the next quest is get to level 2 then I might've just canceled my 30 minutes and switched it to 2 hours as i'm halfway there already. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 09, 2009, 12:56:37 PM
I suspect that it rolls the dice at the end of each work period. If you have time to babysit it I think the most efficient way to gather stuff is to work in 10 minute chunks. No way I'm doing that though. I'm just not quite that obsessive. :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 09, 2009, 01:00:46 PM
I suspect that it rolls the dice at the end of each work period. If you have time to babysit it I think the most efficient way to gather stuff is to work in 10 minute chunks. No way I'm doing that though. I'm just not quite that obsessive. :grin:

Like i said this game needs a gadget, one with a live timer and current job name, at least.

Also, art side. To their credit, the use of poser models do not even bother me. Normally, they do.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 09, 2009, 01:32:38 PM
All right, I'm in.  I can't find a "guild" thingy in game.  Is there one?  How do I hook up with all y'all?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Draegan on March 09, 2009, 01:46:54 PM
I just started and I'm picking tobacco.

yay

edit:
I'm in the very middle/bottom of the map.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 01:49:18 PM
All right, I'm in.  I can't find a "guild" thingy in game.  Is there one?  How do I hook up with all y'all?
We're going to have our own little town with a "bulletin board" of sorts it would seem.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 09, 2009, 01:52:32 PM
Ah, I see.  A town is a guild.  Cool.  My character name is "Spamwise", so toss me an invite when we're ready.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 09, 2009, 02:13:59 PM
I'm in world 8 under Xanthipe.  Can't use my other name because that's in World 7 still.

Started way over on the right edge, 3rd down.  Walking toward the middle more on my jobs.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 09, 2009, 02:21:43 PM
So does anyone know enough about this game to suggest what character classes a town needs? From the description it looks like "Workers" are useful but geeze it sure doesn't sound like much fun.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 04:02:33 PM
(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/resource_cluster.png)

This is the best resource cluster I've been able to find. Walking there now, but anyway, filter out for "picking cotton" and look for that blue dot. Just a bevy of stuff to grind your way quickly to level 10. Also, since we're aiming for a town, it may be worth doing stuff that has a high luck possibility so we have stuff to sell in town right when it opens. Also you can come across weapons and clothing and such. Anyway, yea, I'm going there. Whoop whoop.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 09, 2009, 04:07:43 PM
Want to include the global map in that there screenshot, hoss?  (Lower right of the minimap dialog, under the search dropdown.  Tells what minimap "screen" you're on.)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 04:11:05 PM
The global map is in the screenshot, hoss. I just took 2 screenshots so I could move it to not cover up the resources.

Edit: That's the SW Area (really, about 80% of the whole map) of the global map.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 09, 2009, 04:16:12 PM
There's a 4x10 grid in the lower right corner of your screen when you're scrolling around the minimap.  The "global map" in your screenshot is one of those 40 squares.  At least, that's if I'm understanding the interface right.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 09, 2009, 04:18:37 PM
Town foundations shouldn't be based on low level areas. We're all going to be Lv. 10 and rollicking in cash before we should be thinking about a town.

Towns only need one or two workers. The rest can be Duelers, Soldiers, or Adventurers. It all depends on what you want to do... PvP or cash generation / quests.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 04:22:58 PM
There's a 4x10 grid in the lower right corner of your screen when you're scrolling around the minimap.  The "global map" in your screenshot is one of those 40 squares.  At least, that's if I'm understanding the interface right.

Oh, that right. Yea, bottom right hand corner (THE bottom right hand corner). Fuck the old west is big (like really damn big).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 09, 2009, 04:33:07 PM
I'm only a couple screens away from you.  But like Lore says, I think it's probably premature to be picking out a spot for a town.

Haven't figured out what I want to be yet.  Hopefully I get to sample the PvP before I have to commit, since my choice will probably depend on how much I like that part of the game.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 04:37:38 PM
I wasn't picking a place for a town, just looking for a great place to grind, particularly while I sleep. This is a great place.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 09, 2009, 04:44:37 PM
kk.  I'll start working my way down there.

I really like the skill system in this game, with labor points being the sum of five different modifiers.  Synergies make my inner min/maxer go  :drill:.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 09, 2009, 04:46:53 PM
At Lv. 14 you can also slowly rspec.

I just noticed that the world map is the same between worlds. So we want to be looking at towns in World 8 that are huge in World 7.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 09, 2009, 04:50:36 PM
I just noticed that the world map is the same between worlds. So we want to be looking at towns in World 8 that are huge in World 7.

Does every world play out the same?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 09, 2009, 05:43:18 PM
I'm not sure. Only been into this a couple weeks.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 09, 2009, 06:39:33 PM
Aez - world 8.

How do you play this game?  The first task I did took 15 min.  I hope some task are longer.  I can't play from work.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 09, 2009, 06:46:34 PM
When you start a task, you can specify how long to spend at it, up to two hours.  You can also queue up a couple of different tasks (it looks like one of the RMT options is to queue up four at a time).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 09, 2009, 08:38:53 PM
I'm just a few squares north of shild... 6 and ahalf hours walking time. I expect it would take days to get to the west side of the west.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 09, 2009, 09:32:40 PM
I'm a square and a half north of Schild as well, working my way down.

and, hi2u!

-Sutro


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 10, 2009, 12:59:26 AM
Look around when you start getting tired: There are "Founding Towns" where you can go to the Hotel to rest up. It may be several hours away but the amount of time you'd save going there is monumental. Right now New York is in the right-most grid, second from top.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 10, 2009, 03:08:50 AM
(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/richmond.png)

For those people in the bottom right quadrant, in the bottom most right hand corner, inside that white square is Richmond.

It's 1 hour 17 minutes from the spot I posted yesterday with the 3 resources. Wish I'd known about it before going to bed, haha.

Edit: Who knew I'd be picking cotton with Rendakor and viin. Haha. (I wonder how many other people are playing and haven't said anything)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Le0 on March 10, 2009, 03:21:14 AM
(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/703641/Pics/Games/west_leodido.JPG)

I'm in, Leodido ! picking sugar!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 10, 2009, 03:35:05 AM
I found Boston in the top right grid. All of these east coast cities really need an ocean to be on don't you think?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 10, 2009, 08:05:07 AM
I also started in the lower right grid (game needs a grid system) and am hovering around here doing quests, ill work my way around slowly.

(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/866/thewestlocation.jpg)


Is Richmond a player town?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 10, 2009, 08:08:41 AM
I'm North East from BW. Far from Schild. Maybe this is for the better? :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hoax on March 10, 2009, 09:22:17 AM
I can't stand this game, I set sugar for 2 hours and didn't care to come back...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 10, 2009, 09:25:36 AM
Boston?  Richmond?

I don't see any towns on the map at all.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 10, 2009, 09:39:42 AM
I can't stand this game, I set sugar for 2 hours and didn't care to come back...

Lol. Yes, the prime problem with web games in general, you have found it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 10, 2009, 09:50:27 AM
Boston?  Richmond?

I don't see any towns on the map at all.

These founder towns don't seem to appear on the main map. You have to scan around for them. It kind of sucks.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 10, 2009, 10:21:41 AM
Where is our town damnit!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 10, 2009, 10:23:35 AM
Where is our town damnit!

in mah pants, ur invted


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 10, 2009, 10:28:36 AM
You can't filter for the founder towns; however, on the minimap they do show up as little grey diamonds. Which is a real kick in the seat to find, since they're -almost- the same color as the map's background/terrain.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 10, 2009, 10:29:31 AM
in mah pants, ur invted

NEIN! :pedobear:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 10, 2009, 10:40:39 AM
You can't filter for the founder towns; however, on the minimap they do show up as little grey diamonds. Which is a real kick in the seat to find, since they're -almost- the same color as the map's background/terrain.


Ahhh, "ghost towns."

I just found Washington in my little rectangle.  Does every rectangle have one?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 10, 2009, 10:42:42 AM
Sweet, I was wondering where the hotels were at.  I'm only about an hour from Richmond so I'll see you all there shortly, I reckon.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 10, 2009, 10:48:17 AM
I'm 45 minutes out of Washington myself; I'll be queuing up for it shortly. Anyone getting close to the amount of scrilla for founding?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 10, 2009, 10:50:20 AM
I'm about halfway there.  The levelling curve in this game is very decent.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 10, 2009, 11:01:22 AM
I'm a bit over $100. Of course, if I could sell the piles of shit on me, I'd have nearly 200. >_<


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 10, 2009, 11:20:06 AM
I'm going to continue to do quest where i am, then tonight i will set my guy to walk to Richmond, and sleep at the inn, because the total time for that is about 9 hours.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 10, 2009, 12:18:52 PM
I am now picking berries for 4 hours. I went ahead and bumped up the main stats, which bumped up everything, and putting on that +5 toughness hat opened up a shitload of tasks. Berries seems far more lucrative than most shit AND it's right south of Richmond ^_^.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 10, 2009, 12:20:59 PM
Currently my build is basically being dictated by the jobs that quests point me at.  I wish I had a better idea of what play is like at the higher levels so I'd know what stuff I should start focusing on.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 10, 2009, 12:28:47 PM
Well, you get skill and attribute points. I haven't used the skill points since those are far more specific to what they do, but I dumped some points into the core attributes because they give +1 to everything under that attribute. As such, yea, I used some points.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 10, 2009, 12:49:34 PM
I figure if I spend all my points now on stuff I'm doing now, I'll get XP faster so I can get more points.  We'll see if I end up wishing later that I'd hoarded them all to put into something that's useless now but vital later.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 10, 2009, 01:22:44 PM
I think there is a respec type system in place. I do not think its an all at once respec though.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 10, 2009, 03:13:43 PM
I don't understand how people are level 8 already. I've been pretty fierce in my ability to keep my character doing shit and right now I'm about to hit level 5 in an hour and I'm level 4 in dueling. Perhaps I'm doin it wrong.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 10, 2009, 03:17:23 PM
Pick jobs that provide maximum XP yield (different jobs give different amounts).  Max out your skills for those jobs so you get more out of them.  Switch between jobs with similar yields so your motivation doesn't drop.  Do quests, since those give you lots of bonus XP.

That seems to be the recipe for optimal XP gain, anyway.  Are you doing that?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 10, 2009, 03:19:02 PM
Quote
That seems to be the recipe for optimal XP gain, anyway.  Are you doing that?

As far as I can tell, yes.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 10, 2009, 03:19:11 PM
I had a few hours of free time yesterday to grind picking sugar but since then all of my time is being spent doing stuff the newbie quests want me to do. Perhaps straight grinding is more efficient than doing these quests.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 10, 2009, 03:22:31 PM
People like me are probably also using RMT to max their energy usage and XP gain. If I was luckier on some items I'd be Lv. 8 as well.

Don't worry about placing stats in useless stuff. At Lv. 14 you can respec for $1 a point, but not all at once (more you do at one time, more it costs).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 10, 2009, 03:24:00 PM
Ahhh right. I forgot about the RMT goodies you can get. I'm not sold enough on the game yet to put real money into it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 10, 2009, 03:30:16 PM
From what I can glean, these are the people playing:

Aez
Kamen (as Kamen West)
lamaros
Leodido
Lorekeep
MrBloodworth (as Trucegore)
Musashi (as Gyoza)
NiX
Reg (as Regg)
Rendakor
Samwise (as Spamwise)
Schild
Sutro
Viin
Xanthippe (as Xanthipe)
Xuri



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 10, 2009, 03:36:08 PM
Mr.B = Trucegore in game. Now sleeping in Richmond till tomorrow.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 10, 2009, 05:07:28 PM
I dunno how much longer I'll play this, I somehow seem to be missing the fun.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 10, 2009, 07:39:02 PM
I'm not sure if it counts as "fun", but it doesn't have any "unfun" like most web MMOs do.  As in, it lets me queue up a couple of jobs to last a few hours and walk away instead of having to babysit my character.  So that's something.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Rendakor on March 10, 2009, 11:56:44 PM
I agree with the apathy towards the "fun"; it's the reason I hadn't bothered posting that I started playing. For now its something I dick around on in class, or during downtime in WoW.

That said, I found it amusing that the GOAL of a quest was to ding level 2. Usually that's either a Pre-req or a reward, not an objective.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xuri on March 11, 2009, 04:06:58 AM
From what I can glean, these are the people playing:

Aez
lamaros
Leodido
Lorekeep
MrBloodworth (as Trucegore)
NiX
Reg (as Regg)
Rendakor
Samwise (as Spamwise)
Schild
Sutro
Viin
Xanthippe (as Xanthipe)
I feel hurt and dejected.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 11, 2009, 07:32:26 AM
Feel better now?

:hello_kitty:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 11, 2009, 09:52:16 AM
I completed all the quests I'm capable of and still am only Lv. 8 when I was Lv. 9 on World 7. Probably because I had found some nice equipment that boosted all the right stats.

So right now I'm sitting on $200, and that doesn't include stuff I can sell. We should have enough to FOUND a town between all of us, but not enough to really do anything with it just yet.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Rendakor on March 11, 2009, 10:49:04 AM
So do we need to found or join a town in order to sell? I have a ton of trash sitting in my inventory doing nothing.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 11, 2009, 05:10:11 PM
I think so, yeah.

What class/portrait are people thinking?   It seems like the class doesn't affect your game THAT much (it's just a 10% bonus here or there), so I'm going to just try to get an avatard that's different from everyone else's.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 11, 2009, 05:32:09 PM
I'm thinking adventurer or duelist.

As far as build goes, I'm thinking of doing a dex/cha hybrid with a pretty split point spread between traps, appearance, tactics and shooting. The reasoning for this is that there's synergy for that combo at most phases of the game. I won't be "spiky" - i.e., I won't qualify terribly early for most jobs - but I'll be OK at dueling and I'll be able to go pretty smoothly through the progression.

-Sutro


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 11, 2009, 07:45:22 PM
http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?p=147437#post147437

Oh, shit. Age of Conan but better?

I am thinking Worker may not be the way to go since more PvP elements are making their way into the game. The only class that gets a serious advantage in combat is a Soldier because of the 50% bonus to Tactics.  I am leaning towards Adventurer though because of it's "Can do anything equally well" type setup. Those class bonuses need to be revisited. Duelist is OK but all it really is is doing more faster, not really better at dueling.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 11, 2009, 11:56:38 PM
I can not get a fucking Raven Feather for the life of me. I've spent all fucking day scaring off the crows. >_<


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 11, 2009, 11:59:56 PM
At least you're getting XP right? Things dry up between Lv. 8 - 10.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 12, 2009, 12:19:20 AM
I can not get a fucking Raven Feather for the life of me. I've spent all fucking day scaring off the crows. >_<

Lol, same.  I've done every other quest but the damn feather eludes me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 12, 2009, 12:33:10 AM
Lorekeep, how can I give you moneyz?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 12, 2009, 12:44:45 AM
We can setup the town and you can donate it to the town Treasury. I'm at $244 so I'm pretty close to pulling this off.

We can do one of two things:

1. Get a General Store going so we (and everyone around us) can start selling items. We can use Founder Towns for Hotel resting.
2. Get a Hotel going so we can sleep for free, perhaps farther away and in a separate county from the starting areas in anticipation of fort battles.

I can browse World 7 and look for good locations in the right 3 quadrants. The farther west we go, the longer it'll take us to get out there but the more isolated we'll be.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 12, 2009, 12:52:33 AM
My opinion? Make it as isolated as possible, find a quadrant with good resources but nearly no one around. Who really cares about making money from the hotel anyway? I'll head out there the moment you give a location.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 12, 2009, 01:14:40 AM
You can't make money from the hotel yet. I just want to make sure we have the money to BUILD one if we're tossing it out in the boonies.

When I get $300 I'll start getting serious about finding a town spot.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 12, 2009, 03:16:30 AM
Well, scaring away crows led me to feeding pigs or some shit. Whatever, I still don't have a ham or a raven feather. But I did get this from the pigs - which has 0% luck or whatever.

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/brown_rags.png)

I am OK with this.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 12, 2009, 06:27:16 AM
I am level 7 right now trying for a silly feather.  I also have $150 or so in contributions to the cause.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 12, 2009, 08:03:16 AM
Level 7 with 150 as well.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 12, 2009, 08:14:19 AM
Level 6, will also give a buck fitty. Heh.

-Sutro


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xuri on March 12, 2009, 08:50:48 AM
Nearly level 8, with around $160 with which I can contribute.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 12, 2009, 09:19:51 AM
Level 8, still trying to get a goddamn feather.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 12, 2009, 09:21:52 AM
Level 9 trying to get  a hammer.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on March 12, 2009, 09:32:12 AM
If you see some guy named Kamen please kill him, it ain't me.

Anyway, I've created a character named Kamen West on world 8.  I'll give your town project my money after I make it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 12, 2009, 12:29:46 PM
In as "Gyoza."  Have money.  Working on feather.

Edit:  Also.  Looks like there's three towns already on the far right of the world.

Double Edit:  Just moused through all the 'zones.'  Those are the only three eastern towns in the whole thing so far.  So it could be that the farther west you go, the farther away from people you get.  Which would make sense, given the name of the game.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 12, 2009, 12:50:28 PM
Are you talking about the Founder towns like Boston and New York or have player created towns started popping up already?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 12, 2009, 12:51:24 PM
Player towns, I'm pretty sure.  Named like 'Happy saloon.'


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 12, 2009, 01:27:25 PM
From what I can glean, these are the people playing:

Aez
Kamen (as Kamen West)
lamaros
Leodido
Lorekeep
MrBloodworth (as Trucegore)
Musashi (as Gyoza)
NiX
Reg (as Regg)
Rendakor
Samwise (as Spamwise)
Schild
Sutro
Viin
Xanthippe (as Xanthipe)
Xuri



Updated this back yonder on that other page.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 12, 2009, 02:31:36 PM
I found my fucking feather.  YEE HAW! 

Unfortunately the next quest requires beans, which I'll need to gain a level or two to get.  I'm sort of tickled that I have to level up my Charisma to be able to pick beans.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 12, 2009, 04:23:41 PM
They require finesse.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 12, 2009, 04:26:18 PM
Got 1 of 2 grains, still no feather. But I'm a loot fiend. Just found a necklace of +5 animal instinct.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 12, 2009, 04:32:32 PM
I have an extra feather now.  Don't know if/how can trade.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 12, 2009, 04:34:24 PM
Yeah those items that give +Stats are lethally good in the early game.

Wait until you have to get a Turkey.

After this next two hour shift I'll have enough money to fund a town. I'll be looking at locations that are one, two, or three grids west. Farther and it'll take 24 hours just to walk over there. I'm thinking something in the middle given that I hate being on borders.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 12, 2009, 04:51:58 PM
I've got the Turkey quest but I'm like 20 labour points short of being able to hunt it. And that's after I spent almost everything on being able to Repair Goddammed Fences.  I think'll probably have to grind for a level or two before I have the points I need.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 12, 2009, 05:03:14 PM
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/Lorekeep/TownPlots01.jpg)

Here are the four plots I identified as possible good places to go. Each is varying distance from the east side. I think in the long run it isn't going to matter what plot we choose as we can't see the higher level stuff right away. It's all about how isolated you guys want to be at the start.

Option A: It'll take about $2000 starting cash to get the hotel up and running. Assuming someone with decent Construction, Leadership, and Repair (I think on that third one), you can do average 6 points of construction every half hour, and sometimes 7 if you're good at our level. Given there are 200 points to the hotel, that's 34 half-hours, or 2040 cash.

Option B: General Store only requires 100 Construction Points. With access to that, we can get cheap items (Donkey at $250), only requires 1020 cash to get started (Which between us all I know we have), AND the ability to sell (which will boost finances for hotel).  However sleeping may be an issue.

Keep in mind Founder's Town with hotels are only nearby Options 1 and 2. 3 and 4, there ain't nothing but the animals.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 12, 2009, 05:04:47 PM
I planned on going builder guy, so I have no problem going straight into the hotel biz. But yes, somewhere to sleep may be nice. Heh.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 12, 2009, 05:24:34 PM
I like sleep.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 12, 2009, 05:47:49 PM
I'm only lvl 5.  I can't play enough during the week.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 12, 2009, 06:17:24 PM
I am also going to be good at construction (going heavy Charisma and then probably Dex)  Dunno if that will help much.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 12, 2009, 06:24:55 PM
Any particular preference on location?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 12, 2009, 06:37:09 PM
I like option 4, if only because the town is close to the center of the county map and that'll make navigation a little more pleasant.

As long as we'll have a hotel I like the idea of striking out west rather than sticking closer to the starter towns.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 12, 2009, 07:29:12 PM
Looks like four would be fine.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 12, 2009, 07:34:37 PM
I don't care.  Pick a spot and I'll be there.

Milling grain now so I can get some more points to repair fences.  Turkeys will be after that.

Maybe being a worker?  I don't know.  I don't care about dueling so much, and aren't really sure about the other things.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 12, 2009, 07:36:11 PM
Don't we need a bank before Anything so we can put money int he treasury? How much is that?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 12, 2009, 08:39:23 PM
My char's name is gotleather, btw. Still just level 2. Might get a few levels over the weekend though.

I think 4 works too.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Rendakor on March 12, 2009, 09:48:55 PM
Level 7 here, with 150 to contribute (maybe more once we can sell). No real preference on location for our town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 12, 2009, 09:48:59 PM
Bank comes with the town. Town Treasury is separate in that you can either put it in personal savings or town Treasury.

Establishing Bat Country at 4!

So who all has high Construction, Repair, and Leadership? I've got more of the latter two but low on Construction due to no jobs requiring it. I could use an item that grants it...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 12, 2009, 09:49:36 PM
What time should we head out there?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 12, 2009, 09:52:00 PM
It'll be 16 hours before the Town is founded. I'll get you invites. I'd head out once we know we have enough cash and building power to make the Hotel.

It takes 8 hours just to get out there.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 12, 2009, 09:53:41 PM
So, you'll say when we should head out there, OK. Heh.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Rendakor on March 12, 2009, 10:05:49 PM
I've got a leadership of 9 (5 base with an item for 4 more); my construction is only at 2, and my repair is at 4 but thats all from an item. However I have 2 attributes and 2 skills I'm currently holding; I can assign them wherever we need to get the town up and running.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 12, 2009, 10:14:05 PM
I think it would be best that we assess our roles tomorrow or soonish so that we know before the trek over there what we're doing Exactly. It seems like without forethought, the entire town will be chock full of old west hillbillies with no marketable skills (goldpanning anyone?).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 12, 2009, 10:21:41 PM
Construction is the most important one. Formula goes Construction x 3 + Repair + Leadership. Also keep in mind you can respec.

I'm planning to go Adventurer because I can see myself benefiting more from those bonuses (except for that shitty Foreign Hotel Bonus).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 12, 2009, 11:07:16 PM
Still level 9 with Leadership 4, Repair 8 and Construction 1.  I'm 23 points away from being able to hunt Turkeys and the fastest way to get the skills would be to pump skill points into hiding which appears twice on the skill list. Right now I'm just mowing a pasture for experience.

My other quest is to buy a donkey. I need to belong to a town with a general store to be able to do that right?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 13, 2009, 12:14:04 AM
I was leaning toward being a grizzled prospector, meself.  Although if someone else wants the gold-panning job I might go with mortician instead.   :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Le0 on March 13, 2009, 01:56:56 AM
Hey! I have absoluetly no clue what I'm doing, I did not distribute any point yet I feel like a newb!
Any advice welcome, also I'm only level 4 soon to be 5.
I guess I should plan my attribute distribution with the class I'm going to pick later?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 13, 2009, 02:48:01 AM
Still level 9 with Leadership 4, Repair 8 and Construction 1.  I'm 23 points away from being able to hunt Turkeys and the fastest way to get the skills would be to pump skill points into hiding which appears twice on the skill list. Right now I'm just mowing a pasture for experience.

My other quest is to buy a donkey. I need to belong to a town with a general store to be able to do that right?

That's pretty much where the cock block begins with quests until you hit Lv. 10 and start getting class quests.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xuri on March 13, 2009, 03:20:05 AM
My character so far:
LEVEL: 8
STATS: Dexterity 4, Strength 2
SKILLS: Toughness 14, Aim and Shooting 7 (which sounds pretty useless when I think about it, considering that my weapon of choice at the moment is a broken bottle), Appearance and Repairing 5, Vigor, Dodging, Setting Traps and Fine motor skills 4
$163

Guess I'm pretty useless for the town and whatnot right now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 13, 2009, 04:26:40 AM
Hey! I have absoluetly no clue what I'm doing, I did not distribute any point yet I feel like a newb!
Any advice welcome, also I'm only level 4 soon to be 5.
I guess I should plan my attribute distribution with the class I'm going to pick later?
Just keep saving the skill points until you get a quest that needs them. When that happens you'll be glad you still have them.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 13, 2009, 08:14:13 AM
(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3671/statsm.jpg)

Level 7, going to go mortician.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Le0 on March 13, 2009, 08:37:32 AM
I'm going for a worker, so I dumped all my attributes points in strength and saved the skill points.
I heard I could be used in our future town if needed?
Guess I'm useless at the moment I'm only level 5 tho but I'd be glade to help.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 13, 2009, 09:01:11 AM
I've always wanted to be a cowgirl, so cowgirl I'll be.

Yippee kay aye yay, etc.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 13, 2009, 11:57:43 AM
Oh, fucking SWEET.  I went to go pick berries to grind up a couple of levels to be able to pick beans for a quest, and found an Indian necklace that raises my stats high enough that I can do it without even needing the level.

BEANS HO!

 :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 13, 2009, 11:59:06 AM
I'm gonna be a cowboy! A singing cowboy!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 13, 2009, 12:16:51 PM
All right, I call dibs on prospector.   Hands off my gold pan, by cracky!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on March 13, 2009, 12:25:13 PM
I'm only level 4 so far, but would a soldier be useful after I get to level 10?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 13, 2009, 02:07:09 PM
I'll do whatever you guys need so long as it involves shooting people in the face.

Bloodworth:  Three coffins sir.  Oops.  I mean four.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 13, 2009, 02:31:57 PM
Changed my mind, decided to go adventurer!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 13, 2009, 02:42:49 PM
Ok I invited schild just cause and I'm going to invite Bloodworth because he can build like a mother fucker. Who else has got 300+ in funds?

BTW: Only got room for two more players right now until we build residences.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 13, 2009, 02:57:26 PM
I have $200 and some vendor trash to unload.  Also already making my way over.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 13, 2009, 03:01:29 PM
I have 175 plus trash.  I went to zone four overnight.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 13, 2009, 03:05:32 PM
I'm going to invite Bloodworth because he can build like a mother fucker.

In the rain even.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 13, 2009, 03:06:41 PM
First come first serve then, eh? :\ Might take longer to get our hotel live.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 13, 2009, 03:10:50 PM
I'm on my way 8 hours to get there, then 15 min to pray (only way i could get him to walk, no clue what it does), then i shall...what do you want me to do? ill park my guy on building something if you want.

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1663/makehotel.jpg)

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9457/residences.jpg)
(No im not making anything yet, just posting the screen shot of building things)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 13, 2009, 03:18:04 PM
We need $60 for every half hour of work. If you have unused stat points I'd pump them into Construction to get your Labor Points higher. But right now we need money to get you working.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 13, 2009, 03:26:11 PM
I'm fixing some fences and such. The question is, straight to residences, hotel, or store? I have my repair at 10, trying to get level 9 and finish the last quest. Then I'll head straight over and build.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 13, 2009, 03:26:32 PM
k, i get 27 and 12, respectively, now for the two items above, they seem like the best to focus on, i also have $188 on me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 13, 2009, 03:36:37 PM
I'll be there in 7 hours.   If you wanna throw me an invite (Spamwise) I'll spend some of my cash on building something.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 13, 2009, 03:39:54 PM
What's your stats for Construction at? Might be best to have Bloodworth do it.

It HAS to be Hotel. This far out, we can't afford to travel 8 hours just to rest.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 13, 2009, 03:42:02 PM
Looks like... 6.  Can multiple people not collaborate on construction?  Or do you not get as much return for your investment if someone with fewer points works on it?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 13, 2009, 03:42:25 PM
I'm fixing some fences and such. The question is, straight to residences, hotel, or store? I have my repair at 10, trying to get level 9 and finish the last quest. Then I'll head straight over and build.

Well, can nonmembers put money in the bank? If no, then residences, if yes, then hotel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 13, 2009, 03:43:35 PM
Should I head out there or is the resident limit too low right now?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 13, 2009, 03:51:27 PM
I'll start working on Hotel asap then. I'll pump points into just that stuff.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 13, 2009, 04:00:32 PM
Hey if anyone is on their way out here right now, do me a favor and cancel the trip. You'll end up back where you started.

I don't think we're going to have enough for the hotel and your time is better spent earning cash and XP.

schild, Spam, myself, Bloodworth, and I got room for one more who has a lot of cash, but I don't think that's going to happen yet.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 13, 2009, 04:30:58 PM
I'm up to 278 on cash but haven't started my way west yet.  Still at level 9, working until I can skill up to do Turkey quest.  Or donkey quest.  Those are my only options at this point.

I don't care if I'm in now or later.  I'll stay where I am if not until later, or make my way if you want me sooner.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 13, 2009, 04:31:38 PM
I'll have a shitload of money once we have a general store >_<


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 13, 2009, 08:29:36 PM
Yeah, me too. I'm getting lots of useless ponchos and no feet or neck accessories.

I hit Lv. 10 and went Prospector. Only decent looking female portrait in the bunch.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 13, 2009, 10:28:53 PM
I'll just sit about where I am working for loot (13 fine motor skills) at the moment then. When I get some good stuff I'll let you know and make my way over.

Should I got for $$ jobs or loot jobs? If you guys will have the store up soon I suppose the latter?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 14, 2009, 01:18:10 AM
Get cash. When we got about 2k between us we can finance the hotel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 14, 2009, 01:21:17 AM
Admittedly, I'm making a lot more getting loot than I am getting cash. But I suppose that's neither here nor there as long as we get it.

I have about $300 in loot and $190 in cash.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 14, 2009, 02:14:17 AM
I'm going worker, going to take the Craftsman picture. Looks like he's carrying around an old green box of cereal. And I love me some cereal. We'll pretend it's Raisin Bran. Mmmmmmm, raisin bran.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 14, 2009, 08:11:13 AM
We need a flag. Something ... perfect. Maybe...  :awesome_for_real: ?

max. 220x150, max. 256kByte, (jpg,jpeg,png,gif)

That's what we have to work with.

BTW I can finally hunt fucking turkey. Only put 18 points into Hiding. Shit can't WAIT to respec out of that.

I'm also out of energy. I have 150 bucks on my character (consider I just dropped $300 already to make the town... love that RMT!). So who is out there now or is planning to go out that is rolling in dough?

Update: Oh fuck me. Everyone come out and center around The Beastro a block north. They have a hotel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 14, 2009, 08:26:54 AM
I'm slowly considering RMT.  The game looks fun on the long turn and they are still updating the game.

Anyone can explain the logic behind the map interface.  Where is the town with the four quest giver?  Why do resources spot are scattered all over the place?
Just wondering why there's not some concentration of the farming related resources so you can imagine it's a farm?

I'm on my way to the hotel.

Also, I'll probably pick the Iroquois soldier since (If I ever understand the point of duel outside quests).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 14, 2009, 08:41:47 AM
In 12 hours I'll be picking beans just south of Beastro.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Rendakor on March 14, 2009, 09:19:01 AM
Also on my way out to Beastro, be there in 8 hours.

Could someone list the skill requirements for hunting turkey? I'm so far away that it doesn't even appear on the map.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 14, 2009, 09:46:30 AM
I will be near Beastro tonight.  Cannot hunt turkey or repair fences, but I can pick beans, prospect and guard forts!

Forums are annoying, I found a link to something useful though.


http://westtool.redio.de/w7/index.php

You can find info on jobs there.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 14, 2009, 09:49:28 AM
I just hit level 10 and chose Cowboy. It looks like our town is going to have tons of workers. I'll be arriving at the Beastro Hotel in about 8.5 hours for a snooze so I'll be at 100 percent energy first thing tomorrow morning and ready to spend a couple of hours on my first Cowboy Quest which involves scaring crows out of my Uncle's corn field.

Oh yes. This game is fun all right!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 14, 2009, 11:16:01 AM
If this has been posted yet, I haven't seen it...

http://www.weststats.com/ is far and away a better resource for finding jobs for which you qualify. It has a Javascript that lets you import your job values and your equipment bonuses and it flat out tells you if you qualify... and if you don't, how much you're off.

Plus, it's got full lists of quests and their requirements.

Level 8, 217 cash; chasing birds, pickin' beans. Will be OTW to bat country afterward.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 14, 2009, 01:40:26 PM
Just hit level 10, picked cowgirl (worker).  I have 3 quests, can only do one of them (scaring birds).

One quest is hunting turkeys, which is a ways off.

The other is to get a donkey.  I have $340.

Do I buy a donkey or come to Bat Country to somehow put it towards town?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on March 14, 2009, 01:51:33 PM
So I did the first few quests, then it told me to get to level 2, and since I was at the cotton field, I picked cotton for two hours. The XP bar went from 4/14 to 5/14. Do I really need to check up every two hours and reset a work timer for 18 more hours to get to level 2? That's Korean grind retarded.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 14, 2009, 02:39:12 PM
It shouldn't take that long to get to level 2. Look around for a job that gives better experience that you have 100 percent motivation for. If you had been picking cotton already then you might have a motivation penalty for it and that'll cut down your experience.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 14, 2009, 02:49:48 PM
I think we need to stop getting workers and start getting some Duelers haha.

I don't like WestStats. I went there once and I had literally 100 pop-ups come up on my screen.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 14, 2009, 03:37:04 PM
What are the benefits of having duelers?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 14, 2009, 05:52:23 PM
Guarding fort and earning money through duels.  There's also a couple of jobs that work well with a dueler/soldier skill set.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 14, 2009, 10:12:03 PM
More money to town bank plz. we are at 13% for sleazy hotel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xuri on March 14, 2009, 10:47:10 PM
How do I put money in the bank? =P


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 14, 2009, 11:14:07 PM
You have to be a member. I could rotate the last membership slot, have you join, go to the bank and donate to the Treasury, than kick you, just so we can get hotel going, General Store going, then residences, but that's up to everyone involved.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 14, 2009, 11:30:23 PM
I am in the area and happy enough helping out.  Rotating between prospecting and milling grain should produce some cash.  I have 200 right now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 14, 2009, 11:30:57 PM
So I did the first few quests, then it told me to get to level 2, and since I was at the cotton field, I picked cotton for two hours. The XP bar went from 4/14 to 5/14. Do I really need to check up every two hours and reset a work timer for 18 more hours to get to level 2? That's Korean grind retarded.

You can queue two things, so 4+ hours of working and moving. Still pretty annoying to check up every 5 hours or so, but you can just do it once a day w/o worring too much.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 14, 2009, 11:36:55 PM
Can you give items to other players? I have a few extra feathers that some people seemed to find hard to get? Also got a Rusty Razor Blade if anyone is thinking about dueling.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 15, 2009, 03:08:40 AM
About to hit level 10. Still not done with quests. Also, got a kickass sling shot, I'm pretty much all kitted out with decent gear and multiple outfits for doing different things. Tomorrow morning, I will head to town and start on the hotel w/ my fat $230.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 15, 2009, 04:40:39 AM
Try and get $240 since that allows workers to do 2 hours of work. I'm depositing 240 myself once I get down there in a few hours.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 15, 2009, 04:52:41 AM
Sigh. One point from level 10. Irony.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 15, 2009, 06:34:47 AM
I'm willing to be admitted/looted/kicked.

-Sutro


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 15, 2009, 06:54:50 AM
^^hah.

I'm heading to town in the morning to pray, deposit my money, and then uhhhhhh go to town on building the hotel. Wooooo.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 15, 2009, 10:57:23 AM
By the way, I have exactly 240g in my loot table atm.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 15, 2009, 11:23:06 AM
Can we get the position of the town put in the first post? For those that are lazy.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 15, 2009, 12:07:15 PM
(http://en8.the-west.net/images/avatars/goldseeker_small.png)
I'm a prospector, by cracky!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 15, 2009, 07:24:42 PM
4 hours/$480 worth of hotel building going up, I have a high enough construction and repair that I can tear through this fucker. Deposit some more money and I can be done in probably a day or two. ^_^ I'll take the other 96 out of my bank and deposit it after I finish this. :)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 15, 2009, 07:26:44 PM
I'm guessing there's a way to increase town population so we can all eventually join?



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 15, 2009, 07:29:26 PM
Yes, I'll have to build residences, which is not a problem.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 15, 2009, 07:47:39 PM
I'm 11 with $480 at the moment, and am slowly meandering west.  Slept in Crow Town last night, will sleep in Britannia tonight (1 rectangle east of Bat Country).



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 15, 2009, 09:05:42 PM
Hlem is picking cotton on is way to Bat Country.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 15, 2009, 09:34:28 PM
Heh, can't withdraw from the bank.

Nevermind, interface was poop. Didn't refresh.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 15, 2009, 10:35:01 PM
I'm 11 with $480 at the moment, and am slowly meandering west.  Slept in Crow Town last night, will sleep in Britannia tonight (1 rectangle east of Bat Country).



Your character will make it one go. Just takes something like 6 hours.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 16, 2009, 12:21:45 AM
Adventurer has a ridiculous number of easy quests that have massive XP. I'm already Lv. 14.

I invited Xanthipe. Let's get that hotel up, put nearly 480 of my own cash in, on my way up with another $100. Seriously Adventurer has ridiculous XP an cash gains from quests.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 16, 2009, 12:25:31 AM
Can we get the position of the town put in the first post? For those that are lazy.

Fourth from the right, third row. Look for the only town in the center.

Or send me a telegram and I'll reply and you can see the town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 16, 2009, 02:28:23 AM
Might make my way over to Bat Country tonight. Any point? Room for me to donate $, will the hotel be up within the next day or two? Or should I just stay where I am?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 16, 2009, 02:47:53 AM
Hotel should be up very soon. We can swap membership to get the money in there so people can build the Hotel.

Schild, blood... which one of you is the better constructor? WHICH CARPENTER WILL REIGN SUPREME?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 16, 2009, 02:57:11 AM
(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/stats.png)

That construction is going to hit 16 since I'm doing the first quest while waiting for money to appear.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Le0 on March 16, 2009, 04:08:14 AM
Am I an Idiot? I can't find the town .. ?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 16, 2009, 05:10:38 AM
Or you can just use the "Town" subscreen of the "Ranking" menu and look up Bat Country. That'll let you zoom right into it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 16, 2009, 05:57:27 AM
Am I an Idiot? I can't find the town .. ?

The screenshot they provided is misleading.  It's missing a row on the right.  Look where you were looking but one square to the left.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 16, 2009, 07:34:13 AM
Am I an Idiot? I can't find the town .. ?

It's in the 7th rectangle from the left, 3rd rectangle down.

Or 4th from right.

I'll be there to deposit in 2 hours.  I can deposit $112, although I have $499.  What's up with that?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 16, 2009, 07:49:57 AM
You should be able to deposit it all into the town treasury. The other one is the personal one. I can't even figure out how to withdraw from there :(.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 16, 2009, 08:06:35 AM
If you buy/sell at a town, does that town get/give money from its own account? Or is it a seperate thing?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 16, 2009, 08:09:33 AM
You should be able to deposit it all into the town treasury. The other one is the personal one. I can't even figure out how to withdraw from there :(.

It does it automatically when you spend.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Le0 on March 16, 2009, 08:35:07 AM
Oh okay, thanks I found the town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 16, 2009, 10:26:00 AM
The Beastro has a general store open, should I just sell all my shit there?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 16, 2009, 10:29:03 AM
The only way I can figure to visit the town is to pray, but I cannot queue my deposit, I have to be in the town at the time?



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 16, 2009, 10:33:23 AM
Yeah. So just walk into the town and toss the money into the Treasury. Might as well toss it all in because you won't be able to use it until we build the General Store, which is after the Hotel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 16, 2009, 10:35:14 AM
Selling! Every general store seems to give you the value listed. I can't imagine the town makes money off buying things from players. So, yea, might as well sell at the Beastro, right?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 16, 2009, 10:38:08 AM
Selling! Every general store seems to give you the value listed. I can't imagine the town makes money off buying things from players. So, yea, might as well sell at the Beastro, right?

The only advantage to your own General Store is in buying items.  Selling items -  you can do that anywhere.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 16, 2009, 10:40:46 AM
Is there a way for players to trade or sell items between each other?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 16, 2009, 10:42:27 AM
Do items you sell show up in the store's inventory?  That would be an incentive to sell at home, since then other folks in town can buy your stuff if they need it for quests.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 16, 2009, 10:44:56 AM
The only way I can figure to visit the town is to pray

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/signpost.png)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 16, 2009, 10:46:36 AM
oooh thanks.

Money deposited now.  Off to pick corn.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 16, 2009, 10:47:24 AM
Nah. They are just cash for you. I think they want 0 player trading to avoid Twinks.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 16, 2009, 11:34:04 AM
Was I supposed to do anything besides deposit money?

(My construction is at 8, leadership 5 and repairing 10 - I've been putting points into whatever my next quest needs, mostly; planning on respeccing at 14).



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 16, 2009, 12:02:31 PM
I have another hour picking corn, and queued up an hour construction on the hotel.  Unless I hear differently, I'll queue up 2 hours after that.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 16, 2009, 12:08:23 PM
I have been just building from the bank money.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Chinchilla on March 16, 2009, 12:23:51 PM
I've been playing on World 4 for awhile now.  I don't mind started another character on World 8 so I can join you guys.  Do you have the room in your city/town for another?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 16, 2009, 12:25:38 PM
Eventually? We need to build a bit before we can get everyone in.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 16, 2009, 01:03:52 PM
I have been just building from the bank money.

Should I unqueue, or can two people build at once?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 16, 2009, 01:04:13 PM
I have been just building from the bank money.

Should I unqueue, or can two people build at once?
People can build at the same time, yes.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 16, 2009, 01:06:04 PM
Neato, my last quest gave me +4 construction boots.  Yee haw.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 16, 2009, 01:06:25 PM
I'm hiking home now with another $100 for the treasury.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 16, 2009, 01:15:56 PM
I have been just building from the bank money.

Should I unqueue, or can two people build at once?

Its all good, when you set your cue, it takes all that money for it out, so there is no double booking. I'm just doing my part for the town.

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/861/buildingr.jpg)

We are currently at 75% now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 16, 2009, 01:41:46 PM
Before you go on a selling spree of your loot, it's worth noting that 1 handcuffs are a required item for a quest. True, it's a quest WAY up the level ladder, at level 45... but it's a 1 percent drop rate.

My recommendation is that you hang onto *everything* that's a job loot. I think it'll ultimately save a lot of grief.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 16, 2009, 02:03:21 PM
HAHAHA ALREADY SOLD EVERYTHING.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 16, 2009, 02:07:19 PM
Holy SHIT Adventurer has a cluster fuck of high XP high cash quests.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 16, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Yeah, that's why I just became an adventurer. It also offers the most stats out of any of the job quest lines.

Sadly, I'm cockblocked at cowboy. :/ Need 12 moar points.

One thing to consider: I saw a town that offered to sell donkeys at $400; i.e., you get town invited, drop $150 in the bank, buy your donkey, then leave town. If we don't roll a donkey at Bat Country, we might want to consider a similar deal with Beastro since they have it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 16, 2009, 03:04:51 PM
We'll get you your damned Donkey. :P No need to waste $150 that would be better spent constructing our town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 16, 2009, 03:14:40 PM
Well, if you want to use my cash to construct the town, where's my invite to dump this $300, ffs? ;p

Don't bother till tomorrow, though. I'm still up around Beastro and I need to sleep.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 16, 2009, 03:25:55 PM
I'm down to 0 cash - kick me if you need to.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Chinchilla on March 16, 2009, 04:12:52 PM
Eventually? We need to build a bit before we can get everyone in.

No rush bro.  I'm still lowbie lvl.  My char name is St Drahcir.

I'm looking to see where you guys/town is at.  Where was it again roughly?
  Even though I can't join yet I can at least play around with you guys.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Chinchilla on March 16, 2009, 04:43:09 PM
Eventually? We need to build a bit before we can get everyone in.

No rush bro.  I'm still lowbie lvl.  My char name is St Drahcir.

I'm looking to see where you guys/town is at.  Where was it again roughly?
  Even though I can't join yet I can at least play around with you guys.

I found it!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 16, 2009, 04:45:18 PM
I deposited enough money to finish the hotel and get a crapload done one the General Store.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 16, 2009, 07:41:47 PM
Goddamn I love the loot in this game.  I'm finding all sorts of cool +stat shit now and it's fun to shuffle it around to max out my bonuses for a particular job.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 16, 2009, 07:42:43 PM
We have a hotel.  Come on down.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 16, 2009, 07:49:46 PM
haha after I finish resting, I'll go straight to work on the general store after I finish resting at Beastro. No reason to dick around with wasting $10.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 16, 2009, 09:12:03 PM
I'm tanning deer skin/repairing fences nearby. Invite me when you can so I can deposit the ~250 I have.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 16, 2009, 11:43:53 PM
Ding 10.  I'm a soldat.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 17, 2009, 06:42:47 AM
I'm resting in the Janitor's closet so I can grind out skills to finish the quests I have. Will it be awhile until we can all be signed up for the town?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Le0 on March 17, 2009, 08:23:38 AM
I'm on my way to the town, I have something like 250$ if they are needed let me know.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 17, 2009, 08:36:09 AM
I have 30 minutes queued up on the General Store which is currently at 51% - that'll put it up to 59% or so.  I'm sleeping now for another hour, and praying for 15 minutes after that, and plan on going out to work/level, as my construction in town is now down to 94% and will go down a little more after my queued work.

I can remove myself so another can be invited in to dump cash, after I finish my queued town stuff.

Next building after store ought to be residences so we can add more people.  Does anyone know if the rate of building residences changes, or the difficulty or whatever after you get one built?

I ought to ding 13 soon.  I'm not finding any new worker quests.  I finished a chain of easy ones, but ran out very quickly.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xuri on March 17, 2009, 08:47:00 AM
I'm sort of idling near Bat Country while occasionally polishing some shoes for passerbys, and I have $250 to deposit.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 17, 2009, 09:26:54 AM
Ah haha. I wish our Treasury got a cut of the Hotel money. Bunch of players hanging around our neck of the woods now. :P


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 17, 2009, 09:28:24 AM
someone built a town west of bat country!  War, war!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 17, 2009, 09:56:13 AM
What does praying do?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 17, 2009, 10:11:39 AM
What does praying do?

From the help file... No one knows but the lead programmer.  (http://en8.the-west.net/help.php?article=church)  :why_so_serious:

someone built a town west of bat country!  War, war!

Yep, and they are using our hotel too.  :mob:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 17, 2009, 10:31:47 AM
It really seems like some amount of the money paid to the hotel should go into the town treasury.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 17, 2009, 10:35:58 AM
I left Bat Country - someone else can be invited in now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 17, 2009, 10:51:20 AM
Alright, Xuri, you got an invite.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 17, 2009, 11:39:16 AM
I just started in on 2 hours of general store work (somehow made like $247 yesterday in fat loots).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 17, 2009, 01:03:43 PM
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/Lorekeep/Headgear01.jpg)

God damn that's a nice quest reward.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 17, 2009, 01:06:11 PM
Reward? I FOUND +1 strength +5 stamina shoes for mucking fields or some shit. Talk about lucky for a worker. ^_^


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 17, 2009, 01:19:18 PM
I just now found some shoes of +4 construction and +4 swimming while panning for gold.   :drill:  My building labor points just doubled.  I'm gonna come home and finish the store.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 17, 2009, 01:23:09 PM
The store would be done in 2 hours if there was any more gold in the bank. I deposited every ounce of money I had. :P

I have 13 minutes left on the last 2 hour block.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 17, 2009, 01:28:03 PM
The store would be done in 2 hours if there was any more gold in the bank. I deposited every ounce of money I had. :P

I have 13 minutes left on the last 2 hour block.

I know i have a 30 min block cued up. But i'm out of energy till tomorrow after that (after that), considering i have been just building for days now, my guy did rather good with out sleep =)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 17, 2009, 01:35:25 PM
Quote
Default  Version 1.18
Hey everyone,

We'll be updating all our worlds with Version 1.18 on Wednesday. Please note that this will not include the new forts feature.

The changes include:

    * Level cap removed (was 99)
    * At the start a player's start location is nearer to a tobacco field.
    * Quest employers marked with a white point.
    * It is no longer possible to sell your burned uniform.
    * Whiskey is now possible to sell.
    * Skill and attribute displays will no longer be generated by the server. This should improve performance.
    * New quest series completable in March only.
    * New quest series for those level 75 and above.

We'll also be adding a new tutorial for new players.

Cheers,
- Jon


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 17, 2009, 01:44:10 PM
I just finished the general store, suckas.

Donkey, yellow bandanna, brown bandanna.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 17, 2009, 01:46:04 PM
Just started 2 more hours on residences. You can tell me I rule later. Also, we're 9% of the way to level 2 general store.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 17, 2009, 02:05:29 PM
Do Residence next. Then we can go General 2.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 17, 2009, 02:40:47 PM
Residences mean more peoples can join? I long for some meaning to my meager western existence.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 17, 2009, 02:45:41 PM
Residences mean more peoples can join? I long for some meaning to my meager western existence.

Yes, and yes.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 17, 2009, 02:48:12 PM
If we get money when people stay in the hotel, we should upgrade that after upgrading residences.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 17, 2009, 02:51:07 PM
I want to just live in the hotel, like George Hearst in Deadwood.

Oh, speaking of.  Can we build a whorehouse?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 17, 2009, 02:52:08 PM
We already have one, there's a *NO_SIDEREAL = 1* flag on it for some reason.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 17, 2009, 02:53:23 PM
 :cry:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 17, 2009, 03:25:51 PM
If necessary we can swap people in and out of the fifth slot so you can at least pick up your Donkey and maybe get some free inn rest.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 17, 2009, 03:28:34 PM
I have about 20 minutes left on Residence building, then I'm going to tend sheep for 2 hours to finish some qusts (and because I'm brooooooooooke), someone deposit more money. My "building" stat will be at 20 soon. I'm only focusing on strength/building now btw.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 17, 2009, 03:40:16 PM
I'm two bucks away from getting my goddamn donkey.  After that all my money starts going into the town again.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 17, 2009, 03:40:48 PM
I'm not even bothering with the donkey since 99% of my time will be spent in the town. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 17, 2009, 04:29:29 PM
Do the donkeys really cost 1000 bucks or do they get cheaper once you join the town?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 17, 2009, 04:35:50 PM
Ding lvl 10! Not sure if I should go adventurer, despite all my points being adventuresque so far. I think we have a few doing that allready?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 17, 2009, 04:49:26 PM
Either Soldier or Adventurer is recommended, depending on if you want to PvP or not. Dueling can't really be done until more towns with Morticians pop up.

Edit: Income on its way to the Treasury.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 17, 2009, 04:51:50 PM
I should have around $400 for the town tonight, will need an invite for deposit.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 17, 2009, 04:53:23 PM
I had to put my guy to sleep, i also may have bought some nuggets.  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 17, 2009, 05:39:20 PM
Do the donkeys really cost 1000 bucks or do they get cheaper once you join the town?

My donkey only cost $250, so there must be a 75% discount for residents.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 17, 2009, 06:00:04 PM
My donkey only cost $250, so there must be a 75% discount for residents.

Yep.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 17, 2009, 06:50:44 PM
Got some money for the town.  Waiting for invite once the residences are done.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 17, 2009, 10:38:30 PM
I'm lazy and hate reading the internet.

Difference between soldier and adventurer?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 17, 2009, 10:46:34 PM
I'm lazy and hate reading the internet.

Difference between soldier and adventurer?

One has pants. Good luck!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 17, 2009, 10:55:52 PM
Which one?!  :ye_gods:


Actual answer: Soldiers like duel and stuff. Adventurers like do quests and stuff. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 18, 2009, 12:25:04 AM
Sleeping free in hotels is pretty sweet.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xuri on March 18, 2009, 01:53:25 AM
I've deposited all my cash, so I guess I can take my leave for now and free up a spot for someone else?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 18, 2009, 01:59:31 AM
I've deposited all my cash, so I guess I can take my leave for now and free up a spot for someone else?

I'll be about for the next few hours if they want to do this. I suspect they're probably sleeping though. That is if anyone apart from Lorekeep can even add people.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 18, 2009, 04:13:29 AM
Looks like they have anti-swapping protection or something. I can't dismiss him until 7:15 pm server time.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 18, 2009, 04:20:04 AM
Looks like they have anti-swapping protection or something. I can't dismiss him until 7:15 pm server time.

Ah well I'm going to sleep soon, so I'll just donte at a future date.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 18, 2009, 07:39:12 AM
I'm building the residence as fast as my little legs will let me.

Edit: I have GOT to stop for a day, my freaking motivation/productivity dipped below 90% and my output almost halved, wtf.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 18, 2009, 08:03:11 AM
I could build when I wake up in an hour and a half if I could snag an invitation to town.  My construction is at 13 (don't know if this is good or bad compared to others).

Lorekeep, how'd you hit 18 so fast?  I am totally out of quests I can do except trying to get  a flag by defending the fort, which has a 3% drop rate.  I won't be hunting turkeys any time soon or getting a donkey for awhile.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 18, 2009, 08:06:07 AM
By the way, anyone know what those two extra equip slots are for?  The ones at the bottom next to feet.

The one on the left can hold handcuffs or a scythe or a meal or similar things but is it to any advantage to put something there?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 18, 2009, 08:25:24 AM
I'm building the residence as fast as my little legs will let me.

Edit: I have GOT to stop for a day, my freaking motivation/productivity dipped below 90% and my output almost halved, wtf.

My dude is back awake.  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 18, 2009, 09:29:40 AM
By the way, anyone know what those two extra equip slots are for?  The ones at the bottom next to feet.

The one on the left can hold handcuffs or a scythe or a meal or similar things but is it to any advantage to put something there?

Bottom right slot is for a mount.  Bottom left slot is purely decorative as far as I can tell.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 18, 2009, 02:06:14 PM
Just realized you pretty much get hurt on every job, but this one caught my eye:

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5999/capturecuq.jpg)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 18, 2009, 02:07:16 PM
Jesus. That's pretty hardcore.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 18, 2009, 02:31:13 PM
That's nothing.  I've been shot like every time I guard a fort.  Silly flesh wounds.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 18, 2009, 02:31:45 PM
Residences at 63.5%. Need more money.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 18, 2009, 03:04:21 PM
I screwed up the sync and I've got to do some daytime sleeping, but if I can get cycled in I can pop $350 in the bank. If more's needed right right now, I'll wait on the donkey and deposit around $625.

Not sure what the timer is on cycling people in/out, but it is what it is


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 18, 2009, 03:06:30 PM
I still don't know how to do math in this game but I'm nowhere near enough to do even 2 hours of work. I've dumped every time into our little shantytown.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Chinchilla on March 18, 2009, 03:57:27 PM
My character is Stdrahcir.  I'm just questing and doing adventures to gain money/exp.  No rush for me.  I'm just having fun being around the town.  I'm gathering and such from around there.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 18, 2009, 04:25:42 PM
I got kicked by a cow while branding and took 133 damage.

I also woke up this morning to find someone had dueled me and did 2/3 my health in a single duel. At least I had no cash on me!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 18, 2009, 04:42:01 PM
Well you're one of the highest level characters on the server. You better get used to being a target.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 18, 2009, 05:01:34 PM
I don't get the whole dueling thing.

How do you avoid dueling?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 18, 2009, 05:02:02 PM
Be sleeping in a hotel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 18, 2009, 05:13:58 PM
I don't get the whole dueling thing.

How do you avoid dueling?

Stay away from me

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6671/leevancleef1.jpg)

On a less Lee Van Cleef note, I see that one of the classes you can pick is 'Mexican'.  That's awesome.  I wish more MMOs offered the Mexican class.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 18, 2009, 07:54:13 PM
What. the. hell.

I get a quest to duel a thief.  I challenge thief but don't see any sort of duel at all.  It said, You cannot beat the thief.  I didn't do a thing.  So I try to click it again.  Same thing.  3 more times.

So now I lost all my cash ($250), I am out of rest points and out of health points.

I never even saw the duel screen.

Fuck this. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 18, 2009, 08:00:51 PM
I also just got dueled. It seems, being part of a town, mean PvP consent.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 18, 2009, 08:10:40 PM
What. the. hell.

I get a quest to duel a thief.  I challenge thief but don't see any sort of duel at all.  It said, You cannot beat the thief.  I didn't do a thing.  So I try to click it again.  Same thing.  3 more times.

So now I lost all my cash ($250), I am out of rest points and out of health points.

I never even saw the duel screen.

Fuck this. 

Click the duel menu. Have to change your duel options and stuff.

Also check your reports and everything, should be a duel history in there somewhere.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on March 18, 2009, 08:14:55 PM
I'm a level 10 Mexican now.  Figured we might need more gunfighter types.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 18, 2009, 08:15:02 PM
I thought it was interactive.  It seemed interactive during the earlier quests/tutorials.

I guess it isn't.  Still, I should not be losing my cash to a quest duel, right?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 18, 2009, 08:45:22 PM
Not unless you died during the duel.

Failed quest duels show up as reports in your Reports window. You can use that to analyze where the opponent is striking and change your tactics.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 18, 2009, 09:37:31 PM
I died  because I kept dueling, thinking that it was a glitch, not noticing my health was dropping because the page didn't refresh.  I thought duels happened in real time like the early ones where it _seemed_ like I was clicking on different parts of the body of the guy I was dueling.

So duels are instant, preset things, and what you click on during the early duels in questing don't mean a thing?  Just dumb luck?

That sure would have been good to know beforehand.  Kind of disgusted with the game now, or with myself.  Going to take awhile to get to where I have enough energy to work so I can raise 10 to stay in a hotel.  Ugh. 

I put in an appeal.  Wonder if I'll get a reset.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 18, 2009, 09:52:09 PM
Hlem is selling newspapers north of Bat Country, expect me to drop by your new hotel.  :drillf:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 18, 2009, 09:53:11 PM
I had the same issue with that quest, Xan, although I don't think I lost the duel enough times to actually die from it.   :sad:  I agree it's not in any way intuitive until you figure it out.

Looks like our residences are almost done, and once you get into the town you can sleep in our hotel for free.  If you aren't already in the area, now might be a good time to start hiking, since it doesn't cost any energy to travel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 19, 2009, 04:36:09 AM
Caladonia hath invited me to join their town, aieee. We must build and claim the region for f13.

Quote
If your looking for a town we're working on one.I sent an invite if your interested.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 19, 2009, 07:07:33 AM
Caladonia invited me as well.  Residence done yet? =)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xuri on March 19, 2009, 07:08:52 AM
Grrr. The duelling system annoys me. Since we don't have a Mortician in the town, I can't revenge myself on the random dude who killed me in my sleep (ok, I fought back and almost won, but meh). What the heck do I need a Mortician in OUR town for when I'm going to kick ass in THEIR town? =P


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 19, 2009, 07:25:29 AM
Looks like our residences are almost done, and once you get into the town you can sleep in our hotel for free.  If you aren't already in the area, now might be a good time to start hiking, since it doesn't cost any energy to travel.

I haven't left the area since I was a member of the town and dumped all my cash into it and then left town so someone else could come in.

I gained a little health and energy overnight, so maybe I can tan some deer or something.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 19, 2009, 07:29:30 AM
God I'm having trouble getting the second deer hide for a quest and now he's given me another one that need 3 more when my motivation to do that job has dropped to 78. Oh well, I'm off to fish up trout for chump change and no experience.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 19, 2009, 08:58:00 AM
I try not to do more than 2 2-hour blocks of anything at once.  The reward is too slim, otherwise.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 19, 2009, 08:58:39 AM
I'm out picking beans, not enough money in the bank for substantial building. If anyone deposits, let me know.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 19, 2009, 09:00:41 AM
You guys need to leave town so others can be invited in, otherwise you won't get more money from the other f13ers in the area.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 19, 2009, 09:16:43 AM
I've left town.  Who has money?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 19, 2009, 09:32:40 AM
75%


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 10:01:43 AM
Just tell me what money you got and I'll invite ya.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 19, 2009, 10:39:33 AM
$400

I can leave town right after deposit if needed.  Free resting!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 19, 2009, 10:41:00 AM
$400 might actually be enough to finish the residences.  Then we can all be in the town at once!   :ye_gods:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 10:43:42 AM
Invited Pezzle! I threw in enough money myself for another 2 hour block.

After we upgrade the Residences to 2 we should probably alternate between Residences and Town Hall.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 19, 2009, 10:53:47 AM
Queued up the two hours of constructions on residences, will be doing them in about 9 minutes.

Also, whats town hall upgrades do?

Edit: Oh, and in any given day I have about 6-8 hours of construction as long as the funds are available, I only stop when productivity drops below 85%.

Edit 2: This is where my stats are right now:

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/construction.png)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 19, 2009, 11:00:05 AM
I don't know about town hall i do know there is another rank, just under founder) for some sort of town council.

I bet if we upgrade the bank however, people can put in more than 80$ (personal) in there.

Quote
Town hall

The town hall is something of the gathering place for the town members. New construction projects are started here and new players are invited.

With each construction level of the town hall the other buildings can be constructed a bit easier. The difficulty is lowered by five points per level of the town hall. The maximum construction level of the town hall is 10.p

Also, in the town Treasury log:

Quote
On 3/18/09 at 11:10 PM     $ 4 received because of the sale of an item.

What happened there?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 19, 2009, 11:00:18 AM
That is gross :P

Oh, and it adds to 76.. where are the other 3 coming from?


*edit*

420 deposited.  Left town so you can invite someone else.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 11:36:31 AM
Town Halls lower the labor cost of all buildings so you can generate more construction points without having to go crazy with your Construction stats.

I need to look into that item sale...

Pezzle left. Who's next?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 19, 2009, 11:48:37 AM
Flag Submission.

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1049/f13flag.png)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 11:50:56 AM
Apes... with Chainsaws? o_o

It'll do. :P


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 19, 2009, 11:52:41 AM
Apes... with Chainsaws? o_o

It'll do. :P

HAY!


One of them has a drill.  :grin:

EDIT: it was an F13 swag i had laying around that never got used. I guess i COULD do something more "Wild west" but i am drawing a blank on what...other than putting cowboy hats on the apes.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 19, 2009, 11:53:30 AM
Bahhahaha it's back.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 19, 2009, 11:58:05 AM
Ready for invite.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 19, 2009, 12:05:42 PM
Ready for invite.

Whats your dudes name?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 19, 2009, 12:13:31 PM
The $4 was me buying a brown bandanna from the store (needed the +3 swim for a quest).  I spent $20 on it, so I guess the town gets 20% of money spent in the store?  Is there a $50 from my $250 donkey purchase too?  That'd be nice.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 19, 2009, 12:15:45 PM
Oh, and it adds to 76.. where are the other 3 coming from?

Workers get something like a 5% bonus to building construction.  That'd probably explain it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 12:16:02 PM
Most people offer to invite someone to buy a donkey for $200 or something like that. So we fill the coffers and can add / kick puggers.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 19, 2009, 12:32:29 PM
I hath deposited all my money including my savings to keep building. We'll probably be empty by the end of the day.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 19, 2009, 12:38:29 PM
If we have room, I'm ready for an invite. By the time I'm done all my stuff (4 hours from this post) I should have around $300.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 19, 2009, 12:41:34 PM
Name is Sutro. :P


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 19, 2009, 12:55:37 PM
Good lord, not sure if any of you have looked to the east..... Look at all the towns.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 01:04:27 PM
Yeah some of them are pretty massive now.

In order to unlock respec, you need to finish that quest with the Indian that requires 3 Leather and 3 Trout, just FYI.

After that you need to win a duel and then have $170 and a Blue Bandana.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 19, 2009, 01:07:22 PM
Working on that one now.  (Edit: Fucking deer, I still need leather for the moccasin one too.)   Happily, the prereq for the leather/trout quest (getting 9 toughness) is bugged and gave me credit for completing it when I hadn't, so I didn't have to waste a big pile of skill points on it.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 19, 2009, 01:07:56 PM
Working on that one now.  Funnily enough, the prereq for that one (getting 9 toughness) is bugged and gave me credit for completing it when I hadn't, so I didn't have to waste a big pile of skill points on it.   :awesome_for_real:
Some of the first few quests were bugged for me in the same way, pretty nice.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 19, 2009, 01:08:35 PM
In order to unlock respec, you need to finish that quest with the Indian that requires 3 Leather and 3 Trout, just FYI.

After that you need to win a duel and then have $170 and a Blue Bandana.

BEWARE OF THE DUEL.

Don't keep clicking on it thinking it's bugged because you're not seeing any change except that you lost, like somebody did.

That is all.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 19, 2009, 01:08:44 PM
Just added 30 minute to my residences queue, should be done after that.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 19, 2009, 01:09:27 PM
Rock.  Will we all be able to fit in the town after that?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 19, 2009, 01:10:37 PM
Just added 30 minute to my residences queue, should be done after that.

I will cancel mine then, until we see where you get it, as i'm still doing something else.

Rock.  Will we all be able to fit in the town after that?

It will add 5 more spots.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 19, 2009, 01:39:12 PM
Balls, miscalculated. 30 more minutes. Someone start working on something else.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 19, 2009, 01:44:09 PM
What do we want next?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 19, 2009, 01:47:06 PM
Is level 2 general store possible, or do we have to build other stuff first?

If not, I vote tailor. Stat gear seems like such a massive help. I've looted decent enough weaponry.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Rendakor on March 19, 2009, 01:50:19 PM
I've got $187 I can spare for the town (after buying my donkey) if someone wants to invite me at some point.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 01:54:20 PM
Constructing Lv. 1's of the Tailor and Gunsmith would be alright, but won't be interesting until we get it up to Lv. 2.  So I want to get our people in first before we start worrying about items.

I recommend building up the Town Hall to 2 and Residences to at least 3 since I think we have >10 <15 people who want to join.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 19, 2009, 01:55:12 PM
By your command.

(I'm on town hall)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 19, 2009, 02:41:43 PM
Another new town started up on the other side of the misspelled Caladonia. 
They don't get it.  We're not trapped in here with them.  They're trapped in here with us!

I just hit 10 and have become Mexican with $266.  Let me know when there's space in town.




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 19, 2009, 02:43:16 PM
Level 2 residences are done so the town should have tons of room right now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 02:45:13 PM
Yeah we need Residence 3. We'll get it after Town Hall 2.

Nix, what's your nick?

I've invited who I can but we're still going to be swapping around that last slot.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 02:45:51 PM
have become Mexican

There's a meme there. I can smell it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 19, 2009, 03:09:55 PM
Send me an invite if you have space. I'll be able to chip in about 200 bucks after I buy a donkey. I'll be heading back to town to sleep in about 3 hours.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 19, 2009, 03:13:04 PM
Will drop ~400 in 10 minutes, if anyone's available to work.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 19, 2009, 03:20:11 PM
Can I please snag an invitation back?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 19, 2009, 04:11:34 PM
Quick note -

You'll need a blue bandana to finish the level 14 respec quest; one level later, you'll need a black bandana. As Bat Country does not recognize these heathen colors, the closest place I've found to get them both is one square NE of Bat Country's square.

Denmark, just north of center in that square, has the blue bandana; just slightly nw of Denmark in Empire there's the black bandana. Easy to get both with one trip.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 04:35:16 PM
We'll build the Tailor after the next residence and see if we don't get lucky.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 19, 2009, 04:40:40 PM
Holy shit, our treasury's overflowing.   :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 05:10:39 PM
I put up a Build Order in the Town Forum. But I want to keep most blather on here.

Tossed a roster on there too. I was tired of searching for names in this forum.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Rendakor on March 19, 2009, 06:21:07 PM
Deposited my $200 in the town bank.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 19, 2009, 06:49:41 PM
I'm about still.

Char name is gotleather.

Or have you filled up again allready? :(

Oh, and I see the town has counselors, not councilors. Does this mean we can ask schild for relationship advice?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 06:56:51 PM
We filled up but I'm sure we can get you in after someone has deposited their cash.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 19, 2009, 07:45:43 PM
I've deposited if you want to boot me for now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 19, 2009, 07:47:24 PM
You're going to have to kick yourself. There's auto-protection to prevent me from kicking someone who just joined.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 19, 2009, 11:09:19 PM
Bumbling about weststats I've been looking at the best ways to get $, experience and items early on/ahead of the curve.

$$$:

45% Building Coffins - at 118 Job points, for construction/repair types.
31% Carving Out Claims - at 56 job points, for red/yellow types.
11% Milling Grains - 24 job points.

Exp:

47% Building Railroad station - at 112 job points, for construction types.
45% Exploration - at 111 job points, for general types. (also high luck)
32% Breaking in horses - at 71 job points.
25% Branding Cattle - at 49 job points.

Luck/Items:

64% Transport Ammunition - only 144 job points, dueling types.
25% Trading - 84 job points, traders.
15% Building Irrigation, 44 points.
8% Picking Corn, 24 points.

It looks to me like people aiming at Exploration could level pretty fast while getting good items and the like. I'd probably have done my skills better if I looked at this before... I might aim at branding cowboy/cattle/breaking in horses now. They use the same skills and offer a quicker path up than other stuff it seems.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 20, 2009, 02:36:19 AM
OK, I've left the town again and freed up a spot for someone with money.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 20, 2009, 02:42:43 AM
Should i put off joining a town until i am a certain level? Before i join a town I cant be attacked right?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Le0 on March 20, 2009, 05:16:47 AM
I have something like 330$ available and I'm also a worker if need be to build stuff up!

Name is Leodido and I'm in the vicinity of the town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 20, 2009, 07:29:57 AM
My dude is back awake and building the town hall.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 20, 2009, 08:33:50 AM
I think I screwed my stats. I'm finding it hard to get from 9 - 10. Milling is the only high XP yield task I can do.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 20, 2009, 08:54:41 AM
You'll just have levels like that. Just wait it out and try for a job with decent luck; clothing helps a ton in getting better jobs.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 20, 2009, 09:11:03 AM
Aside from Stream fishing, what else has high luck around level 9?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 20, 2009, 09:23:55 AM
Why on earth are you doing stream fishing? It gives no exp at all.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 20, 2009, 09:26:18 AM
It's got pretty high luck, but I don't think that's worth it.  When I hit that slump I just went for jobs that had the greatest XP %, rotating it out to make sure my motivation stayed over 90%.  Eventually I got over the hump and I was able to do more quests (which is far and away the best XP source).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 20, 2009, 10:05:35 AM
It's worth noting that it's probably a bad idea to queue up more than 2 hours of branding cattle at any one time. Got smacked just as hard as Lore did with a lot fewer health points. Happily, I got my horn in that time.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 20, 2009, 01:23:01 PM
Town hall is done. Need more monies for the next part.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 20, 2009, 01:29:56 PM
Yeah, Town Hall got another 16%, hah. It's not bad if we raise Town Hall, makes the rest easier.

But Residences 3 would be great so everyone can be invited now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 20, 2009, 01:42:01 PM
But Residences 3 would be great so everyone can be invited now.

That's next on the list, just need the cashola.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 20, 2009, 01:57:35 PM
I've got about $200 I can spare in my donkey fund if someone wants to churn me through residency.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 20, 2009, 02:17:10 PM
Leodido's got the latest invite. We're working on Residence 3 now so we can have more people in at a time.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Le0 on March 20, 2009, 03:23:03 PM
thanks for the invite, I've made a deposit of 300$ to the town treasury fyi.

Shall I work on the residence? I'm a builder!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 20, 2009, 03:38:38 PM
Am I ever going to need a fishing rod?  I've just found one and apparently it's a pretty rare drop.  Is it safe to sell it?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 20, 2009, 03:48:58 PM
Someone who seeks spoiling information could probably tell you better than I. I haven't checked out higher level quests but I am hanging onto those handcuffs I got in an early quest since someone mentioned it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 20, 2009, 03:54:11 PM
Is the fishing rod worth a lot of money? For 10 or 20 bucks I'd just hold on to it myself.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 20, 2009, 03:54:49 PM
Have about 450 + stuff to sell.  Need donkey.  Rest is for town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 20, 2009, 03:58:56 PM
I just hate having lots of crap cluttering up my inventory.   :-P  Wish there was some sort of safe deposit box for stuff I want to keep just in case but don't have an immediate use for.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 20, 2009, 04:02:33 PM
So, how much is the fishing rod worth? All I got were boring crappy useless fish when I went fishing.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 20, 2009, 04:15:55 PM
$21 to sell.  Maybe it'll show up in the general store someday and I won't have to worry about having sold off the only one in the world.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 20, 2009, 04:21:49 PM
$300+ getting dumped in about 20 minutes.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 20, 2009, 04:43:24 PM
I have 750$.  Would prefer waiting for the residences but I could take a turn if money is needed.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 20, 2009, 04:46:25 PM
I left the town, so there's a slot open.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 20, 2009, 05:16:03 PM
Musashi first. once he says he leaves I'll toss Aez an invite. We'll have mostly everyone after Residences are finished.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on March 20, 2009, 05:34:00 PM
Have $500 but need a donkey.  I can wait till residences are ready unless you need the cash now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 20, 2009, 05:37:49 PM
We can swap people in, get your donkeys, and deposit your cash, no problem. I think our original roster of 15 has grown to 20+ though.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 20, 2009, 05:41:42 PM
Out of curiosity, does anyone have any idea about how many construction points you need to have to make useful (i.e., not just throwing cash down the crapper) progress on construction? I don't have crap in construction but I have serviceable leadership and repairing.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 20, 2009, 05:50:44 PM
Is it possible to buy stuff?  I have a couple of quests which looks impossible for my class.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 20, 2009, 06:17:18 PM
Out of curiosity, does anyone have any idea about how many construction points you need to have to make useful (i.e., not just throwing cash down the crapper) progress on construction? I don't have crap in construction but I have serviceable leadership and repairing.

The way the system is designed, it seems like if anyone but the person with the highest construction skill is working on your buildings, cash is going down the crapper.  Cash is charged by the time put in, but building progress is measured by labor points per time put in.  So if you have 5 labor points and Bloodworth has 50, it'll take you 5 hours and cost $600 to make the same amount of progress Bloodworth would make in 30 minutes with $60.  You're better off putting your money in the treasury and letting someone who can build use it up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 20, 2009, 06:21:46 PM
Whenever my motivation is over 90%, I build stuff.

Edit: Also, goddamn, 3 leathers in one haul on the damn tanning quest. Word. I am OK with that.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 20, 2009, 06:44:57 PM
Wow lucky on the leathers. I spent all day yesterday on that one until my motivation was under 80 and got nothing.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 20, 2009, 07:08:39 PM
Wow lucky on the leathers. I spent all day yesterday on that one until my motivation was under 80 and got nothing.

Yea, I did that about 2 days ago. >_<


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 20, 2009, 07:30:26 PM
Is 80% the threshold of when you start to really suck?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 20, 2009, 07:43:24 PM
It's just performing at 80%. You get 80% of the cash, 80% of the XP, etc. Not sure if you have 80% of the listed % to get items.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 20, 2009, 07:45:49 PM
Is 80% the threshold of when you start to really suck?

No clue really, I don't do anything if I'm below 90%.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 20, 2009, 08:29:21 PM
Got my $650, bumbling around waiting for a time to deposit anf get my donkey too. Annoying as I need the next level to get the stats to go cowboy and go on a real quest run, too :(


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 21, 2009, 12:13:31 AM
Just got invite after night of drunken WoW raiding.  On my way to town will deposit and drop tomorrow morning.  YEA DONKEY


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Le0 on March 21, 2009, 04:46:24 AM
building residence again, but after that I'll be out of money I can leave the town if needed


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 21, 2009, 01:30:01 PM
Got Donkey.  Deposited like 385.  Can drop now if needed as my soldier's construction is zip.  Don't know how to drop.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 21, 2009, 09:36:45 PM
An invite would be handy if there is room. I have much $$ to share and need to get a donkey to move this quest chain along. /begs


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 21, 2009, 10:21:25 PM
I don't think I have cash to donate, but I need a cheap donkey as well. I doubt there will be any funds left after that purchase...  :ye_gods:

(Hlem)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 21, 2009, 10:59:25 PM
ran out of moneys
am not building anymore
residence near done


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 22, 2009, 02:16:32 AM
ran out of moneys
am not building anymore
residence near done

I hope you can't get dueled and lose my money w/o being in a town... I'm carrying a bit much.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 22, 2009, 02:27:28 AM
You should really come back to town and deposit it, I'm about to start on the last leg of residences which'll empty the coffers again.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 22, 2009, 02:38:25 AM
Not a member as yet, which is why it's piled up. Need someone to toss me an invite. I'll still be in the area for the next bit, stream fishing and the like.

Does anyone know where a Blue bandana is avaliable in the area?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 22, 2009, 03:01:13 AM
We're hoping to get one with our Tailor.

Lamaros I booted someone to make room. What's your username? It's not lamaros.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 22, 2009, 03:05:19 AM
Not a member as yet, which is why it's piled up. Need someone to toss me an invite. I'll still be in the area for the next bit, stream fishing and the like.

Does anyone know where a Blue bandana is avaliable in the area?
Someone posted on the previous page about the bandanas we'll need for quests. You'll need a Black Bandana as well. Apparently the closest place to get them are two towns a couple of hours away called Denmark and The Empire. I was there yesterday and picked them up. Cost me about 100 dollars total.

Oh and to get the quest to recognize that you have the bandana you need to be wearing it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 22, 2009, 03:13:28 AM
We're hoping to get one with our Tailor.

Lamaros I booted someone to make room. What's your username? It's not lamaros.

gotleather. Msged you in game from him.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 22, 2009, 03:14:25 AM
Invited you, lam.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 22, 2009, 03:20:10 AM
Invited you, lam.

Danke, deposited. Left town again. Just reinvite when the next residences are up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 22, 2009, 03:23:11 AM
They'll be up in 2 hours. As long as I don't get screwed on build points, I average around 38-40, and we need 34. So, things should go well. I have tailor queued up next.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 22, 2009, 06:06:53 AM
So, I'm thinking. Does praying have some influence on how good the items you get in your shops are? Some people on the west forums seem to think that having high motivation and praying can get you better items when completing a shop.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 22, 2009, 06:20:20 AM
haha so unlikely


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 22, 2009, 07:51:02 AM
I sent out as many invites as I could with emphasis on those who haven't gotten invites yet.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 22, 2009, 08:07:42 AM
I fail at life but how can I donate money to the town?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 22, 2009, 09:00:53 AM
Click on the Bank and enter how much you want to give the town under "Town Treasury" and click the Deposit button beside it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 22, 2009, 09:16:10 AM
Click on the Bank and enter how much you want to give the town under "Town Treasury" and click the Deposit button beside it.

I don't see any bank.  Only hotel, saloon, post and general store.

EDIT : haha, I closed the overlapped window. wow.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 22, 2009, 10:10:14 AM
I sent out as many invites as I could with emphasis on those who haven't gotten invites yet.
How/Where would I see that invite  ?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 22, 2009, 10:14:47 AM
In the reports window.


I gave 1100$. 




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 22, 2009, 11:02:49 AM
Can you respec? I really shot myself in the foot getting level 10.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 22, 2009, 11:05:29 AM
You get a quest for it at 14 or 15. It must be one of the harder ones though. I'm level 16 and haven't finished it. It's probably one of the quests that needs those damned deer hides.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 22, 2009, 11:19:38 AM
Not a member as yet, which is why it's piled up. Need someone to toss me an invite. I'll still be in the area for the next bit, stream fishing and the like.

Does anyone know where a Blue bandana is avaliable in the area?
Someone posted on the previous page about the bandanas we'll need for quests. You'll need a Black Bandana as well. Apparently the closest place to get them are two towns a couple of hours away called Denmark and The Empire. I was there yesterday and picked them up. Cost me about 100 dollars total.

Oh and to get the quest to recognize that you have the bandana you need to be wearing it.

Bandanas or Headbands?

I need a black headband.  The closest place I've seen is The Empire, rectangle northeast of us. 

Denmark sells blue headbands.

So does The Beastro, rectangle directly north of us.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 22, 2009, 11:28:34 AM
Ah right it's headbands. I didn't know Beastro had one of them but I had to go all the way to Denmark anyway and the Empire is only a two minute walk from there.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 22, 2009, 11:43:44 AM
So what has the dueling situation been lately? Are people still waking up dead and penniless?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 22, 2009, 11:50:28 AM
I haven't been dueled once yet.  I try to deposit all my earnings in the treasury regularly anyway.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 22, 2009, 11:53:38 AM
Hopefully we have more housing coming?  It seems Bat Country numbers are growing fast.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 22, 2009, 11:56:15 AM
Mo money, mo housing.

(edit) We have room for one more right now, looks like.  Also, we have a tailor, and some of these new rags are actually an upgrade!  Sweet.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 22, 2009, 01:20:04 PM
Can you respec? I really shot myself in the foot getting level 10.
Me too. Really need to focus a bit more from now on.

Oh, and if I could finally get an invite, I could finish that donkey-quest and reach level 10.

Not that I am impatient or something.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on March 22, 2009, 01:41:13 PM
I'm in the area. I have only got around donkey money so far, but if town needs cash in the near term, I can donate first, donkey later.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on March 22, 2009, 02:48:17 PM
I'm in on this too, only lvl 2 though and still going through the noob quests.  It put me only 3 hours away from Bat Country though, for when it's time to head there. 

Character name: Hawkbit


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 22, 2009, 03:12:29 PM
Sent an invite to Hlem. Beastro and Copper Springs to the north have Blue and Black Headbands for $80 / $16 apiece.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 22, 2009, 03:18:42 PM
Sent an invite to Hlem. Beastro and Copper Springs to the north have Blue and Black Headbands for $80 / $16 apiece.
Thanks, I'll accept once I am finished with those fences (30m + travel time)

Shall I leave the city as soon as I got the donkey  ? I read it flags me for PvP ?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 22, 2009, 03:29:06 PM
Don't worry about it, we need to build new residences anyway.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 22, 2009, 03:41:29 PM
Tailor done.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 22, 2009, 03:48:45 PM
As an additional quest-related pseudo-spoiling note, I guess,



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 22, 2009, 07:00:03 PM
Level 10 and a Soldier! Yipeee!  :awesome_for_real:

As an additional quest-related pseudo-spoiling note, I guess,

Looks like I will skip those quests...  :ye_gods:

Wow, the quest reward for the first class quest kicks ass...

Silver Star Medal
+4 Horseback riding
+8 Tactics
+7 Appearance

Now I can brand cattle 25% xp, YAY!!  :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 22, 2009, 10:27:25 PM
Sent an invite to Hlem. Beastro and Copper Springs to the north have Blue and Black Headbands for $80 / $16 apiece.

Ok, so this is about the bandana/headband stuff.

Blue Bandana (needed for level 14 skills change quest):
Romania (1 block N)
Denmark (1 block NE)

Black Headband (for level 15 quest):
The Empire (1 block NE)

Unless I've got this wrong and missed something you should go NE to get these two things, as there is no Black Headband to the north of us. So what Lorekeep said is not correct! (got the headband/bandana colours mixed up).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 22, 2009, 10:31:50 PM
Is there anywhere i can get a "mule" without paying 1k in cash?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 22, 2009, 10:42:03 PM
As an additional quest-related pseudo-spoiling note, I guess,



Is there anywhere i can get a "mule" without paying 1k in cash?

By being a member of a town with a General Store!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on March 22, 2009, 10:50:18 PM
I got some cash to donate if a slot opens up - I know I missed my invite chance earlier, but the window was only 6 hrs long!

Looks like we need one more level of Residences at least, whats the cost to build it out another level?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 22, 2009, 11:16:29 PM
As an additional quest-related pseudo-spoiling note, I guess,

Just saw that there are some good +vigor clothes avaiable once we reach tailor 5.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 23, 2009, 02:26:56 AM
I got some cash to donate if a slot opens up - I know I missed my invite chance earlier, but the window was only 6 hrs long!

Looks like we need one more level of Residences at least, whats the cost to build it out another level?

Time. We can swap one slot as we get cash but we should be getting the rest of the 100 point buildings in for completion's sake.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 23, 2009, 09:54:52 AM
The dueling mechanic in this game is a piece of crap. I just almost killed myself by hitting the duel button 3 times in row trying to complete a quest because it didn't tell me I was losing hit points.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 23, 2009, 10:22:29 AM
Uh oh. Looks like respeccing costs $50 a point and increases by 10. So, not cheap. $250 per attribute point.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 23, 2009, 10:37:51 AM
I guess the plus side is there's no level cap, so eventually any mistakes you made in your first 10 levels will be made irrelevant by all the points you used in your next 100 levels.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 23, 2009, 10:46:10 AM
If any of us make it to level 110 other than subscribers, I will eat one of those brown rag shirts from the game.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 23, 2009, 10:48:01 AM
I'm going to need you to tell me exactly how you're going to make good on that bet before I take you up on it.  Are you going to go to Goodwill and try to find a real-world approximation, or are you going to eat your monitor?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 23, 2009, 10:49:37 AM
I'm going to need you to tell me exactly how you're going to make good on that bet before I take you up on it.  Are you going to go to Goodwill and try to find a real-world approximation, or are you going to eat your monitor?

I will print it, cut out the shirt and eat that.

Alternatively, I can put it on a microsd card.

We will figure it out when someone hits level 109.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 23, 2009, 11:35:19 AM
I will print it, cut out the shirt and eat that.

Life-size?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 23, 2009, 11:37:49 AM
I will print it, cut out the shirt and eat that.

Life-size?
As found in the hit game, The West.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 23, 2009, 11:52:36 AM
So, an inch tall like it is on the screen?  I need to calculate whether the endgame is worth the grind here.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 23, 2009, 11:53:03 AM
I won't season it (possible seasonings include but are not limited to one of the follow: pepper, soy sauce, thai chilis, chocolate).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 23, 2009, 12:50:43 PM
You should use it as a Miang Kum wrap.  Wrap up some lime, peanuts, shallots, and coconut in there.  Man. . that sounds so good I might do it without a wager. 

Edit: Oh also, I'm still available as a resident with about 400 bones available for town use.  I just unlocked Cattle Branding so my leveling is about to take off like a rocket.  But this crazy Indian keeps hunting me down and dueling me, even though all I got is this broken bottle.  What an asshole.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 23, 2009, 12:51:57 PM
Make sure to use 120 # acid free paper, for that nice crisp snap.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on March 23, 2009, 01:12:12 PM
I'm up to around 450 gold now - so I can afford to buy an ass and donate $200. Of course, once I have the ass, I can probably contribute even more, since the rewards later in that chain are in gold (and I already have the corn). Guess I should try to unlock cowboy in the meantime. Or turkey hunting. Or tanning.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 23, 2009, 01:18:07 PM
  But this crazy Indian keeps hunting me down and dueling me, even though all I got is this broken bottle.  What an asshole.
Who is it ?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 23, 2009, 01:19:05 PM
Yes, we should definitely keep track of assholes, since we'll soon have a mortician and be able to exact revenge.   :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 23, 2009, 02:09:51 PM
No, it's an NPC.  Fighter of the Red Hand.  He does like 50 damage to me every round, so I'm of the opinion that I'm too low level for this quest.  Or I need a Clint Eastwood-style boiler door under my clothes or something.  Fortunately, he doesn't take any of my cash after he kills me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 23, 2009, 02:14:28 PM
NPCs don't change how they hit you each round. If you're having trouble beating him, adjust your defenses to match up with where you are being hit, and change the attack pattern you're using. After 2 or 3 different setups you should be able to get him.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 23, 2009, 02:50:29 PM
I'd love for that to be the case, but he hits me in places I dodge away from about 50% of the time, and he takes half my life per hit, so . . .


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 23, 2009, 05:41:10 PM
hay guyz.

Pick a construction project and stick to it.

1. Mortician (on virtue that it's just about done)
2. Tailor 2 (on virtue that it's just about done)
3. Town Hall 3
4. Residences 4


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 23, 2009, 06:36:39 PM
The dueling mechanic in this game is a piece of crap. I just almost killed myself by hitting the duel button 3 times in row trying to complete a quest because it didn't tell me I was losing hit points.

I did kill myself, lost my wad of $250 and a day spent resting.

It stinks.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 23, 2009, 06:44:59 PM
It's not the dueling mechanic, it's the fact that the header doesn't update with your life/xp/etc after you do stuff.  It's a significantly less irritating, but still irritating, problem with gaining xp.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 23, 2009, 07:39:25 PM
I log out/in after most everything.  The refresh rate sucks and it is important for us to know levels of xp/health/energy and such.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xuri on March 23, 2009, 07:59:40 PM
Hm relogging shouldn't be necessary though. Doesn't it update if you go to, say, your character sheet?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 23, 2009, 08:41:37 PM
Just hit f5 after you do something.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 23, 2009, 09:47:01 PM
I just nailed the Mortician at 100%.

Also, we're out of money. Oh, and uhmm that other thing is done, whatever it was.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on March 23, 2009, 10:14:57 PM
I got $500 if someone wants to give me a slot for a bit tomorrow.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 23, 2009, 10:49:00 PM
THREE TURKEYS IN ONE DAY!  Take them, Indian dude.  Show me the way to the purple dot of your grandfather.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 24, 2009, 06:55:00 AM
If you get any good stuff in the new Tailor/Store ranks let me know. Not in town so can't see atm.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 24, 2009, 06:59:34 AM
You can see what it has for sale without being in town. You just can't actually buy anything.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 24, 2009, 07:00:07 AM
Hmmm, nothing that I haven't seen dropped occasionally (like the shirt I'm wearing). Shoes are decent. Level 3 looks to yield better stuff.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 24, 2009, 07:03:53 AM
You can see what it has for sale without being in town. You just can't actually buy anything.

You can't see the most recent two levels. Only level 1 up to current level -2.

In town you can see the lot.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 24, 2009, 07:09:17 AM
Oh really? Sorry for the misinformation.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 24, 2009, 08:31:36 AM
hay guyz.

Pick a construction project and stick to it.

1. Mortician (on virtue that it's just about done)
2. Tailor 2 (on virtue that it's just about done)
3. Town Hall 3
4. Residences 4

I was sticking to the original list. Mortician is now done, and we should focus on the town hall for one more level.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on March 24, 2009, 10:26:14 AM
Got corn & steak, so lack of donkey is now holding back 170xp. If I can get a quick in/out to town I can knock that out and deposit a further $320 for building things.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 24, 2009, 10:32:58 AM
Getting the donkey would be great. 

Am I the only person who cannot seem to get one of those indian necklaces?  Getting one would make some of this so much easier...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 24, 2009, 10:34:25 AM
Yes, I found the blue one on one of my very early quests and it's awesome.  I've seen some of the big towns selling them in their stores if you really want one and are willing to pay cash for it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 24, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
I just left the town to free up a spot for one of you.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 24, 2009, 10:42:41 AM
adding insult to injury I AM A FREAKIN INDIAN!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 24, 2009, 12:44:32 PM
Omigod some of the stuff in our new level 2 tailor is awesome.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 24, 2009, 12:57:52 PM
Awesome, finally some decent footwear. I hadn't gotten any boots upgrades except for one quest.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on March 24, 2009, 01:24:02 PM
Walking to town now. Once I sell duplicate and low level weapons, I should have $500 to donate.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on March 24, 2009, 03:39:02 PM
Left town so that Pezzle can get an invite.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 24, 2009, 04:08:33 PM
Any policy on dueling?  I just lost my first duel to an higher lvl dueler.  Can I start dueling random town, would it cause a diplomatic incident for Bat County?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 24, 2009, 04:28:41 PM
Diplomacy? What's that?

Duel away.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 24, 2009, 06:01:56 PM
What is the worst that could happen ?

That we all get knocked unconscious every 48 hours ?  :awesome_for_real:

Honest question, actually.  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 24, 2009, 06:02:59 PM
Pretty much.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 24, 2009, 06:16:59 PM
Wow.  I don't know what workers are supposed to do vs soldiers and duelers.  I hope there is diminishing return based on your dueling lvl.

Not complaining, it's easy money and good xp.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 24, 2009, 06:38:21 PM
Wow.  I don't know what workers are supposed to do vs soldiers and duelers.  I hope there is diminishing return based on your dueling lvl.

Not complaining, it's easy money and good xp.

My level is 18.  So is my dueling level, despite the fact that I have no skills in dueling at all. 

Sheep for the wolves, I guess.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 24, 2009, 06:38:56 PM
You could slowly respec into combat skills once the town's done.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Yegolev on March 24, 2009, 07:08:50 PM
Why does my dude look like Gary Busey?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 24, 2009, 08:14:59 PM
Gah, lost 50 bucks in a duel. Need a real gun and some skillz...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 24, 2009, 08:19:36 PM
Awesome, finally some decent footwear. I hadn't gotten any boots upgrades except for one quest.

The boots you have atm are from town? If so someone squeeze me an invite at some point! :)

I can finally hunt turkey! Woo. Now I just need the darn leather tanning to work.. got it all the way down to 75% without another drop.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 24, 2009, 08:27:19 PM
The awesome +1 strength brown shoes Lorekeep has on right now are a quest reward.  New stuff in the tailor is brown and black ragged shoes, red and blue ponchos, and brown and black caps.  I think everything else was there at level 1.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 24, 2009, 08:28:09 PM
The awesome +1 strength brown shoes Lorekeep has on right now are a quest reward.  New stuff in the tailor is brown and black ragged shoes, red and blue ponchos, and brown and black caps.  I think everything else was there at level 1.

Ah ok, cheers. Looks like nothing that would be super useful to me at the moment then.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 24, 2009, 08:29:49 PM
Are there any ranged weapons in the store?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 24, 2009, 08:30:37 PM
Hey, some sumbitch named Ragtag dueled me and stole $3.  And he's at our town right now.  :mob:

Our gunsmith is only level 1 so what you see is what you get.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 24, 2009, 09:10:06 PM
Yeah Ragtag got $50 out of me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 24, 2009, 09:20:51 PM
Join town, complete quest without reading and lose enough money to deny a mount.  Go make money, get mugged by random guy losing more money.  Great day for me!  Is there some way we can disguise town membership?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 24, 2009, 10:36:55 PM
What's Ragtag town?  Where is it?  Maybe I can get some cash back. 

On a positive note I'll soon donate 150$ to town, all from duel.  We should break event with enough soldiers/duelers.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 24, 2009, 10:41:08 PM
What's Ragtag town?  Where is it?  Maybe I can get some cash back. 

She's still at our town.  Click on her name and it shows you her town and where it is.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 24, 2009, 10:49:33 PM
Is there now extra space to join? I have enough for a mule (im only level 9) but cant other then my inventory trash have nothing extra.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 24, 2009, 11:18:04 PM
Two random people dueled me today.  They both lost.  Both were lower level than me, and I suspect, retarded.  But I bring their money to town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 25, 2009, 01:24:27 AM
Do we have anyone that likes to duel? Ragtag attacked me a second time and is hanging around our town farming.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 25, 2009, 04:03:06 AM
I think we need to appoint some town defenders to discourage foreign duelers. We should let them hold on to enough money so they can buy some decent equipment for it when it's available rather than donating every penny to the town the way most of us have been.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 25, 2009, 04:14:31 AM
Ragtags equipment isnt much better than what you can find at low levels. Little bit of an upgrade from a slingshot.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 25, 2009, 05:19:21 AM
I went to bed (IRL) before Samwise's post.  SO I missed Ragtag.  Anyone can look in his report and tell me the town of Ragtag?  You can also center on his town and tell me the location.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 25, 2009, 05:25:22 AM
Townhall at 99.6%, I don't have enough money to finish it, bank is empty.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 25, 2009, 05:33:18 AM
I went to bed (IRL) before Samwise's post.  SO I missed Ragtag.  Anyone can look in his report and tell me the town of Ragtag?  You can also center on his town and tell me the location.

Vasilkov its one grid north of bat country. Mideast of that square.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 25, 2009, 08:25:54 AM
People should write down Name. Hometown and if possible the attack/dodge setup of the attacker.
(I read you can see this if you look at the duel-report, can't find it)

Also, it might be a good idead to change your setup in the duel tab, to easy to kill you with the default dodging setup.

edit: Looks like there is no default setup.Seems to be generated at random upon entering the world the first time.  Nevertheless if you keep your head down, they are less likely to knock you out because they can't hit you in the high damage places.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 25, 2009, 08:28:20 AM
Ragtag is a beast. Also, your friendly mortician (that's me) got attacked over night by mark11, from south of heaven (town).

We need to put a posse together!

EDIT: you can see where you were hit take a look at the icons on the left and right, also hitting HTML view will show you slightly more detail.

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7599/ganked.png)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 25, 2009, 09:13:44 AM
Question:  Is it more likely to get an item if I have a lot more labor points in the task?

I keep Guarding the Fort in hopes of securing a Union Jack (3% drop rate).  Do my chances to get that flag ever go up past 3%?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 25, 2009, 09:24:59 AM
It must.  My screen shows a 2% rate.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 25, 2009, 09:27:09 AM
3% is the rate with the "better earner" premium thing, which you can get a few days of as a quest reward.  Base rate is 2% and I don't think it goes up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 25, 2009, 09:38:31 AM
So the only thing extra points help with is decreasing danger?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 25, 2009, 09:39:58 AM
Decreasing danger and increasing cash earnings.  At least according to the tooltips.  XP and drops appear to be constant.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 25, 2009, 09:54:48 AM
Since you are in a question answering mood, are soldiers and workers the only groups that get a level 10 class item?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 25, 2009, 10:23:39 AM
I'm an adventurer and I don't have one.  So, maybe?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 25, 2009, 10:46:49 AM
Adventurers rise up!
 :angryfist:

Anyway, I should have my donkey fund soon and will leave so others can get invited.  I meant to give the rest of my cash to town but that did not work out.  I will donate whatever is left over.  We need level 4 residences (and maybe even 5?) for the rest of Bat Country!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 25, 2009, 11:10:49 AM
Adventurers rise up!
 :angryfist:

Anyway, I should have my donkey fund soon and will leave so others can get invited.  I meant to give the rest of my cash to town but that did not work out.  I will donate whatever is left over.  We need level 4 residences (and maybe even 5?) for the rest of Bat Country!

Adventurers don't get to dictate what we need, especially when they're running a "donkey fund"


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 25, 2009, 11:18:21 AM
I would like to note at this time that 3 of the top 4 treasury contributors are adventurers.  Those quests rake in phat cash, and most of it is going straight to the treasury.  FWIW.

I wouldn't mind having a bigger bank, myself.  Some of the quests want you to accumulate money in excess of what the level 1 bank holds, and if we're being vultured for our wallets that might get difficult.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 25, 2009, 11:22:36 AM
Quote
I would like to note at this time that 3 of the top 4 treasury contributors are adventurers. 

Obviously. But building requires money. Until a city is built up, the crafting class is basically a bot for whenever adventurers and others pull in cash. That is to say, we'll obviously get to everything, but Pezzle was being a knob.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 25, 2009, 01:06:20 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Chinchilla on March 25, 2009, 02:41:42 PM
I've been hanging around the city and doing quests.  Not doing too bad so far.  My character is StDrahcir.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 25, 2009, 03:28:39 PM
Ok.  Wild West theorycraft time. 

What's the difference in benefit between doing a job for 10 minutes vs. an hour, or two. 

For instance.

Picking sugar cane.  Underneath the sugar thingey it says 100%.  Does that mean that say, if I need 5 sugar for some strange Indian recipe, that I can get away with queuing it 5 times for 10 minutes?  If I do it for an hour will I get one for sure?  Or will I get six.  In other words.  How does this shit work?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 25, 2009, 03:48:46 PM
Obviously. But building requires money. Until a city is built up, the crafting class is basically a bot for whenever adventurers and others pull in cash. That is to say, we'll obviously get to everything, but Pezzle was being a knob.
That donkey is THE major investment needed to advance that story arc. And the shoes which are the final award now allow me to hunt turkey, which are a big part of several story arcs after that. So don't give him a hard time because his main goal is getting that donkey (especially if it cuts down travel time, which it does). Donkeys are serious business.

Speaking about business, I just startet a construction job with my own money, but figured it would be better to give the money to the town. So I cancelled. Looks pretty weird in the Bank report but it is my own money I got back.

Also I donated 280 $, no need to feed that guy more money than necessary.  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 25, 2009, 03:50:11 PM
I think the % chance for products is the chance, on average, that you will get one of that item with 1 hour of work.  Sometimes you'll get more than one, sometimes you'll get none, but I'm pretty sure it's per hour, not per "job".

It works similarly for cash and XP, except that the percent is the amount of XP or dollars you'll get per hour, and is not variable.  At least that's what I've observed from looking at my job reports; I'm inferring the products thing from those observations.

Unrelated: I've realized something that may have been obvious to everyone else.  If you need to save up lots of money to buy something big or for a quest or something and it won't fit in the bank but you want to keep it safe from duelers, accrue it in the form of goods, and then sell them at the store right when you need to cash in.  I need to poke around and figure out what jobs might give you goods that sell well despite having poor cash pay...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 25, 2009, 03:54:52 PM
I think the % chance for products is the chance, on average, that you will get one of that item with 1 hour of work.  Sometimes you'll get more than one, sometimes you'll get none, but I'm pretty sure it's per hour, not per "job".

From the help...

When you work on a job for 30 minutes you have the stated probability to find the work product for this job. If you work for 2 hours you could find four items if you are really lucky.


[/quote]Unrelated: I've realized something that may have been obvious to everyone else.  If you need to save up lots of money to buy something big or for a quest or something and it won't fit in the bank but you want to keep it safe from duelers, accrue it in the form of goods, and then sell them at the store right when you need to cash in.  I need to poke around and figure out what jobs might give you goods that sell well despite having poor cash pay...[/quote]
Branding cattle is not bad in that regard. I found lots of horn doing this for xp, the drop rate is only 13%, though.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 25, 2009, 03:59:42 PM
From the help...

When you work on a job for 30 minutes you have the stated probability to find the work product for this job. If you work for 2 hours you could find four items if you are really lucky.

Ah, that'd explain why I get two items in an hour sometimes.  I just figured they had some sort of probability distribution that allowed for a small chance of getting more than one item in one period.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on March 25, 2009, 04:10:37 PM
I spent all 8 levels so far into trapping so I could be an adventurer and outfit the town.  Now I wish I went duelist.

I'm in the general area of BC now, been leeching off the hotel.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 25, 2009, 04:30:57 PM
Wait, what?  There's shoes that help with turkeys?  I need that donkey stat.  I'm now cockblocked on two separate turkey quests and I'm about 4 levels off from being able to hunt them, and that's if I dedicate every skill point to that goal.  I'll trade $400 batcountrybucks for 15 minutes of residence so I can get the cheap donkey.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 25, 2009, 04:33:19 PM
Invite sent.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 25, 2009, 04:36:34 PM
Wait, what?  There's shoes that help with turkeys?

Brown cotton shoes: +1 strength, +3 stamina, +5 hiding.  That +5 hiding is worth 10 labor points for turkey hunting.   :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 25, 2009, 04:49:15 PM
Adventurers rise up!
 :angryfist:

Anyway, I should have my donkey fund soon and will leave so others can get invited.  I meant to give the rest of my cash to town but that did not work out.  I will donate whatever is left over.  We need level 4 residences (and maybe even 5?) for the rest of Bat Country!

Adventurers don't get to dictate what we need, especially when they're running a "donkey fund"

Huh?  I am rabbling about the lack of a level 10 class item.  While I prefer the town large enough for us all it is hardly me demanding anything.  Builders can do their thing, I will continue to collect and donate.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 25, 2009, 05:15:21 PM
And all is well with he world!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on March 25, 2009, 05:54:17 PM
Defending the fort gives you flags which sell for like 50$.  Pretty small drop, but at that price...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 25, 2009, 06:08:27 PM
He, got that flag on my first try.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Rendakor on March 25, 2009, 06:20:53 PM
I've spent more than 10 hours guarding the fort and no flag.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 25, 2009, 06:29:44 PM
Yeah, I need one for that stupid quest.  At a 2% drop rate you'll average a flag every what, 25 hours?  Not exactly a cash cow.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 25, 2009, 06:31:37 PM
The game is better than most if not all regular multi millions dollars mmorpg.  It should get 16$ out of me for a couple of months. How fucking sad is that. 
What's the budget for that game, less then 100k?




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 25, 2009, 06:49:57 PM
Know what I like about this game?  It's not disrespectful of my time.  If I want to grind something for two hours, I can click the "grind this for two hours" button and walk away.  I don't even need to write a macro for it.  Civilization.  More time for min/maxing my stats and reading quest text.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 25, 2009, 07:12:38 PM
Woohoo.  I got my ass and dropped $400 in the bank, per our previous agreement.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 25, 2009, 07:15:53 PM
Gratz on finding your ass.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 25, 2009, 07:19:02 PM
Oh, and I left, so there should be a slot open now


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 25, 2009, 11:01:08 PM
Im stuck in the level 9-10 limbo. Next level will unlock prospecting,guard the fort and some other high level skill. This level has taken more than the other 9 combined. :heartbreak:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 25, 2009, 11:45:33 PM
Yeah leveling is a bit wonky as far as speed goes. I'm doing Lv. 22 quests that give me 10% the XP I was getting at Lv. 11.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on March 26, 2009, 06:04:45 AM
The game actually tells you at some point early on that questing is often not the best way to advance.  Sucks for the completionist or the person who needs a quest reward.  Just gotta find the job that pushes XP the best. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 26, 2009, 06:19:06 AM
The game actually tells you at some point early on that questing is often not the best way to advance.  Sucks for the completionist or the person who needs a quest reward.  Just gotta find the job that pushes XP the best. 
The job calculator at west stats is pretty good at that.

Right now I am going for dex/setting traps and will respec later for duelling. I suggest looking up west stats, right now there are a few quests that get much much easier if you do them in the right order, because the quest reward from one quest enables you to finish another without spreading your skill points all over the place.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 26, 2009, 06:30:58 AM
Respeccing is pretty expensive. I wouldn't count on changing your skills quickly anytime soon.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 26, 2009, 07:28:56 AM
Respeccing is pretty expensive. I wouldn't count on changing your skills quickly anytime soon.
Yeah, I know. That is why I am going the dex route, changing attributes is even more expensive...  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 26, 2009, 11:59:52 AM
Anyone got a lot of cash that wants an invite? We're about finished with Residences 4 and can get everyone in.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 26, 2009, 12:28:18 PM
If you see "Caballeros del rey" and can kill him, please do.  Motherfucker took my lunch money.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on March 26, 2009, 12:32:37 PM
Throw me an invite. I got $700.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 26, 2009, 12:36:41 PM
Done.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 26, 2009, 12:43:20 PM
If you see "Caballeros del rey" and can kill him, please do.  Motherfucker took my lunch money.

Lets start a list in the in-game forums.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 26, 2009, 12:56:58 PM
He just attacked me too. I didn't realize you could get so much fucking experience from a duel.

The sad thing is the guy is winning duels because his stats are super buffed by equipment.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on March 26, 2009, 01:01:58 PM
Done.

Money is in da bank.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 26, 2009, 01:04:05 PM
I'm now a Mexican on a donkey who fights with a rusty razor blade.

I think I'm sufficiently scary to fuck some shit up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 26, 2009, 01:05:54 PM
Caballeros is still there.  Let me know how you get on fucking him up.

(edit) Wait, I just read the help, and it doesn't look like where the player is actually matters; you have to go to their town to challenge them to a duel.  Even if they're already at YOUR town, where you are.  What the fuck?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on March 26, 2009, 01:08:19 PM
His level is too high for me to attack.. does that go by duel level or by regular level, anyone know?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 26, 2009, 01:08:45 PM
I'm not a member of a town so I can't fuck him up just yet.

I do notice that he has the exact same gear I have, though.  That's kind of weird.  Imagine two Mexicans on donkeyback fighting with rusty razor blades.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 26, 2009, 01:09:28 PM
Quote
Imagine two Mexicans on donkeyback fighting with rusty razor blades.

I am and it sounds better than anything Epic has ever put out.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 26, 2009, 01:12:16 PM
He also has a dueling level of 20 and a base lvl of 15.  I'm also 15 with the same gear, and duel level of 15.  So uh. . wtf.  I need to read up on that.  Maybe he did a quest or something that jacks it up.  If someone invites me into town, I'll drop off all my cash and kamikaze him a few times.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 26, 2009, 01:20:31 PM
His level is too high for me to attack.. does that go by duel level or by regular level, anyone know?

Duel level. How duel level is calculated...i have no clue.

We need more grunts to protect our warez and ladies! Even more when forts are patched in!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 26, 2009, 01:28:36 PM
If you see "Caballeros del rey" and can kill him, please do.  Motherfucker took my lunch money.

Guy killed me too, but I was already broke. 



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 26, 2009, 02:05:07 PM
Yeah now he's on to me. WTF?

I swapped out what I could and adjusted my defensive patterns in case he tries it a third time.

Edit: Turns out he's one of the town founders of Britannia so there isn't really any diplomacy going to happen there. I did message him to see what his response would be, whether jock-level "HAHA YOU SO LAME", internet emo "you should all die", or some level of intelligence "it's just a game dude."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 26, 2009, 02:11:40 PM
You forgot "l2p nub."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 26, 2009, 02:24:02 PM
So can people duel you anywhere or just in your town or what?

Are workers just free experience for soldiers and duelers?

How does this work?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 26, 2009, 02:26:08 PM
People have to go to your town to duel you, but it doesn't matter where you are.

Yes, workers seem to just be free XP for soldiers and duelers.  No, there doesn't seem to be any way for your own soldiers and duelers to defend you from them, apart from hiking over to their town to challenge them (EVEN IF THEY'RE ALREADY IN YOUR TOWN).  And even then, they can avoid being dueled by sleeping in your hotel.

It's a shame, I was really loving this game but the PvP mechanics are beyond retarded.  I guess the fix is for us to build up our bank so none of us have to carry cash on our persons.  Still retarded.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 26, 2009, 02:28:28 PM
I could knock you guys all out and you would be save for 48 hours  :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 26, 2009, 02:32:42 PM
Maybe the popular targets should just quit the town for a while and wait for him to get bored? Aside from sleeping in the hotel for free I'm really not seeing any advantage to actually belonging to a town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 26, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
Hm.  I get a 'Duel' button on Caballeros when I click on him in our town.  I can't get very far because it gives me a 'you are not a member of a town' error message.  But at least it implies that I could duel him here.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 26, 2009, 02:44:16 PM
People have to go to your town to duel you, but it doesn't matter where you are.

Yes, workers seem to just be free XP for soldiers and duelers.  No, there doesn't seem to be any way for your own soldiers and duelers to defend you from them, apart from hiking over to their town to challenge them (EVEN IF THEY'RE ALREADY IN YOUR TOWN).  And even then, they can avoid being dueled by sleeping in your hotel.

It's a shame, I was really loving this game but the PvP mechanics are beyond retarded.  I guess the fix is for us to build up our bank so none of us have to carry cash on our persons.  Still retarded.

Huh? I just clicked Duel on some random in our town.... I didn't have to go to theirs...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 26, 2009, 02:46:57 PM
You should be able to deny hotel access to hostile parties. If they want to recover energy to attack us, they should go someplace else.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 26, 2009, 02:52:17 PM
People have to go to your town to duel you, but it doesn't matter where you are.

Yes, workers seem to just be free XP for soldiers and duelers.  No, there doesn't seem to be any way for your own soldiers and duelers to defend you from them, apart from hiking over to their town to challenge them (EVEN IF THEY'RE ALREADY IN YOUR TOWN).  And even then, they can avoid being dueled by sleeping in your hotel.

It's a shame, I was really loving this game but the PvP mechanics are beyond retarded.  I guess the fix is for us to build up our bank so none of us have to carry cash on our persons.  Still retarded.

Huh? I just clicked Duel on some random in our town.... I didn't have to go to theirs...

Can you actually do the duel?  According to the help, you have to actually go to their town to duel them, regardless of where they are, but the help might be wrong.

You should be able to deny hotel access to hostile parties. If they want to recover energy to attack us, they should go someplace else.

Yes.  It is incredible that the town's hotel shelters wanted murderers.  (It's not even the energy recovery so much as the fact that they're immune to attack while sleeping.)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 26, 2009, 02:52:32 PM
I just set myself up to duel the two people I could at Bat Country, I mean why the fuck not right.

Also, my building motivation is at like 84% and I didn't want to tan leather. Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 26, 2009, 02:55:13 PM
I just set myself up to duel the two people I could at Bat Country, I mean why the fuck not right.

Also, my building motivation is at like 84% and I didn't want to tan leather. Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

You mean two of the people not IN the town, but visitors right?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 26, 2009, 03:00:03 PM
I just set myself up to duel the two people I could at Bat Country, I mean why the fuck not right.

Also, my building motivation is at like 84% and I didn't want to tan leather. Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

You mean two of the people not IN the town, but visitors right?
Sure, whatever, it's gonna take 2 hours, that's all I know. I'll probably die also.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 26, 2009, 03:51:48 PM
I need a Green and Blue Indian Necklace for a quest. I have a Grey one that provides huge stat benefits.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 26, 2009, 04:20:49 PM
Yeah, I'm on that one too.  They're expensive as hell, so I think we need to either wait until they show up in our general store or hope for good drops.  I've got the blue one already, and am kinda loathe to give it up tbh.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 26, 2009, 04:24:55 PM
Residences are almost done. Then we'll get the next General Store. Which locations have it (just in case)?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 26, 2009, 04:29:59 PM
Caballeros has offered to pay back the money he stole in duels as he's just after the experience.

Also, everything is in ze German after today's 1.18 update. :P


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 26, 2009, 04:47:46 PM
Anyone has a link to the class portrait?  I'd like to know which class I'm engaging in duel.

Also, try to duel worker/adventurer a couple of lvl higher than you if you are a soldier or a dueler.  I won over a lvl 17 as a lvl 13 and it gave me mad xp.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 26, 2009, 05:15:10 PM
I'm just dueling people in Brittania. They have lots of people exposed.

I hope I lose all the duels.

What happens if you lose? You just lose money?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 26, 2009, 05:23:13 PM
You lose some health, and some of the cash you have on hand.  Cash in the bank is safe.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 26, 2009, 05:24:32 PM
I deposit all my cash every time I come to town, in small denominations. Simply because I feel it's necessary.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 26, 2009, 05:28:00 PM
First victim at Brittania down. This worker is goin on a killin spree.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 26, 2009, 05:28:23 PM
I hope I lose all the duels.
:uhrr:  ?



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 26, 2009, 05:29:36 PM
I had no money on me. I'm just being a wanker since my motivation is low in everything I need to do. I'm killing people with a screwdriver.

Apparently my dodge/attack setup is really really good, I picked everything randomly.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 26, 2009, 05:31:38 PM
All we need is a duelist at home working on the buildings and the circle will be complete.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 26, 2009, 05:32:18 PM
All we need is a duelist at home working on the buildings and the circle will be complete.
I have like 10 strength and a shitload of toughness and such. I can't dodge unless they totally miss, but I'm a killing machine.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 26, 2009, 05:34:58 PM
Mein Deutch ist nich gut, sprechen sie English?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 26, 2009, 05:38:54 PM
So much for diplomacy, haha.

Callabros was sorry, but I figure a show of strength might be better!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 26, 2009, 05:40:28 PM
Fuck sorry, over in Britannia everything turns into German. I have a reputation to uphold.

Edit: Also, my screwdriver needs to feast on blood.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 26, 2009, 06:09:49 PM
Man, I don't know what to do to hit these assholes. I've opted not to dodge to increase attack rating and I didn't hit caballeros *once* in the second duel.

Premium duel advantage inc, I guess. Quite a crafty gig they've got for themselves there. Like a mandatory competitiveness fee or some shit.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on March 26, 2009, 06:12:37 PM
Respeccing is pretty expensive. I wouldn't count on changing your skills quickly anytime soon.
Yeah, I know. That is why I am going the dex route, changing attributes is even more expensive...  :grin:

You don't really need to worry about attributes though, do you?

For attacking, the skills are aiming (dex), appearance (cha) and either vigor (str) for melee or shooting (dex) for ranged.
For defending, the skills are dodging (mob), tactics (cha) and either toughness (str) for melee or reflexes (mob) for ranged.

So provided you don't spend all your points in strength and then focus on ranged or all on dexterity and focus on melee, everything else balances out. You simply want to migrate your skill points into the above eight skills, of which two are in each attribute tree.

I actually think that because strength is good for both attack and defense and you can stack skill points against aiming and ignore shooting it gives it a slight edge if you just want to focus on one fighting style. Pumping dexterity without strength requires putting points in toughness for melee defense and health for hit points. But it isn't really important.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 26, 2009, 06:23:32 PM
I keep getting the "cant join world 8 because you have a char on world 9" message. Except i don't have a character on world 9! Anyone else getting this?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 26, 2009, 06:34:18 PM
Probably want to contact support on that one.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 26, 2009, 06:44:54 PM
I keep getting the "cant join world 8 because you have a char on world 9" message. Except i don't have a character on world 9! Anyone else getting this?
*Raises his hand*

Schild broke the duel server...  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 26, 2009, 07:00:13 PM
Respeccing is pretty expensive. I wouldn't count on changing your skills quickly anytime soon.
Yeah, I know. That is why I am going the dex route, changing attributes is even more expensive...  :grin:

You don't really need to worry about attributes though, do you?

For attacking, the skills are aiming (dex), appearance (cha) and either vigor (str) for melee or shooting (dex) for ranged.
For defending, the skills are dodging (mob), tactics (cha) and either toughness (str) for melee or reflexes (mob) for ranged.

So provided you don't spend all your points in strength and then focus on ranged or all on dexterity and focus on melee, everything else balances out. You simply want to migrate your skill points into the above eight skills, of which two are in each attribute tree.

I actually think that because strength is good for both attack and defense and you can stack skill points against aiming and ignore shooting it gives it a slight edge if you just want to focus on one fighting style. Pumping dexterity without strength requires putting points in toughness for melee defense and health for hit points. But it isn't really important.

I'm just dumping my points in mob/cha and then single points into shooting. It will probably suck for dueling, though I figure it gives me the best chance at getting good stats for jobs while also maybe being able to duel a little.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 26, 2009, 07:35:19 PM
Shooting does nothing for duelling. Aim does.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 26, 2009, 07:36:52 PM
Shooting affects your damage *if* you hit, and *only* if you use a gun.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Yegolev on March 26, 2009, 07:40:02 PM
I keep getting the "cant join world 8 because you have a char on world 9" message. Except i don't have a character on world 9! Anyone else getting this?

Yep.  Those krauts can suck my schnitzel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 26, 2009, 07:40:39 PM
Shooting affects your damage *if* you hit, and *only* if you use a gun.
Oh ? Really ?
 :yahoo:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 26, 2009, 07:41:43 PM
Yep.  Those krauts can suck my schnitzel.
:ye_gods:



Don't be suprised if you wake up unconscious and broke...
 :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 26, 2009, 07:50:29 PM
Shooting does nothing for duelling. Aim does.

http://en8.the-west.net/help.php?article=duell_procedure


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 26, 2009, 08:01:19 PM
http://en8.the-west.net/help.php?article=duell_procedure
Woops.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 26, 2009, 11:50:45 PM
When you sell items in a store are those items then available for purchase?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 27, 2009, 12:25:04 AM
Nope.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 27, 2009, 12:59:06 AM
Im gonna start heading for bat country. After i sell all my crap i should have several hundred bucks to donate.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 27, 2009, 01:18:50 AM
Residences is almost done so we'll have 5 more spots. Hope it's enough...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 27, 2009, 04:51:48 AM
Residences is almost done so we'll have 5 more spots. Hope it's enough...

I think there's about 10 of us out of the city atm, at a guess. More than 5 for sure.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 27, 2009, 07:34:54 AM
Finally got the flag!  Now I can start trading!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 27, 2009, 08:07:07 AM
So sick of guarding the fort.  22 hours completed, no flag.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 27, 2009, 08:31:17 AM
Finishing up Residences right now. Sorry about the delay, I worked until it became pointless and my building motivation was at like 83%. I'm back up to 93 now after nearly a full day off. I'll plow through the last 4 points of residences within the next half hour and then hit up the general store, can probably get it done by the end of the day if we get another $200 or so deposited.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 27, 2009, 08:47:39 AM
I'm working on residences right now also (had already queued up 2 hrs on them), and have 2.5 hours queued up for the General Store.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 27, 2009, 08:49:22 AM
Finishing up Residences right now. Sorry about the delay, I worked until it became pointless and my building motivation was at like 83%. I'm back up to 93 now after nearly a full day off. I'll plow through the last 4 points of residences within the next half hour and then hit up the general store, can probably get it done by the end of the day if we get another $200 or so deposited.

You know, it really sucks that you can't see who is building what and how long they have....


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 27, 2009, 09:28:39 AM
This game is pretty crappy. If it weren't for this thread I'd have lost interest days ago.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 27, 2009, 09:29:29 AM
Oh goddamnit, I was looking at the percentage and not the bricks required. Just added in an hour. >_< Stupid residences.

This game is pretty crappy. If it weren't for this thread I'd have lost interest days ago.

I'm not sure what the game is yet, but it requires so little thought or input that I've no reaosn not to play it. It's far less intensive than Nile Online or 1100AD


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Falconeer on March 27, 2009, 09:38:08 AM
I was on the wrong world (9). I am 8 now, character name is Lefteye. I'll look up for you all.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Yegolev on March 27, 2009, 10:00:08 AM
Don't be suprised if you wake up unconscious

I would be very surprised at that, unless I was unconscious. :awesome_for_real:

I'll try to get in again tonight.  I think I will also re-read this thread and see if I can figure out how to level up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 27, 2009, 10:32:43 AM
Finding stat loot is fun. I just got a neckband that gives me +9 Shooting.

NOW try to duel me, mother fuckers. ><


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 27, 2009, 10:36:47 AM
Sent out five invites to people at the town who weren't affiliated. I'll put up a new build order since we're going to need Residences 5.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on March 27, 2009, 11:21:33 AM
Finding stat loot is fun. I just got a neckband that gives me +9 Shooting.

NOW try to duel me, mother fuckers. ><

Trade you for something, that'd get my Shooting skill to 19....


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 27, 2009, 12:14:44 PM
The rate you acquire exp for dueling is insane.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 27, 2009, 12:46:56 PM
That'd get my shooting skill to 19 too.

If people are hanging around our town, ya, you get a lot from dueling since you can spend 12 energy, get XP, then rest such that you are making a marked increase in hourly regeneration instead of the normal 3 / 4.5 per hour.

I got my first diplomacy e-mail. Apparently you guys have been naughty. :P Anyone attack Lemonz? New Avalon thinks we're an aggressive force. Mwahaha.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 27, 2009, 12:50:33 PM
New Avalon is right.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 27, 2009, 12:54:43 PM
Can you trade items between players? Like say i need some beans for a quest but am unable to pick them myself.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 27, 2009, 01:05:05 PM
Nope. That would allow some pretty bad twinking.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 27, 2009, 01:11:24 PM
I shouldn't have picked duelist. The bonuses are complete crap compared to some of the others. Really gives me no advantage in duels at all.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 27, 2009, 01:18:53 PM
But but but but you can duel faster!

Yeah seems kinda meh.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 27, 2009, 01:49:54 PM
Quote
The prospector didn't like your offer. He hits you in the face. You lose 22 health points.

Trading is Serious Business.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 27, 2009, 02:25:58 PM
Guarding the fort
Hit by a bullet for 1 damage

Hunting turkey
Pecked for 111 damage


What the hell are those turkeys eating?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 27, 2009, 02:30:13 PM
Guarding the fort
Hit by a bullet for 1 damage

Hunting turkey
Pecked for 111 damage


What the hell are those turkeys eating?


The blood of pioneers!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 27, 2009, 03:29:06 PM
Got around 90 exp in 2 hours. Would have been 130 but i lost a duel to a last round lucky strike. How exactly does one begin their class quest? Does it branch off from the normal quests in the saloon?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on March 27, 2009, 04:29:49 PM
You guys know you can see your available 'work' items by opening the Work window and clicking on 'Money' or 'Exp' to see which ones give you the most, right?

 :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 27, 2009, 04:32:30 PM
     Premium advantage:
With the 'Automation' premium bonus you get a list of all your available jobs.

I see you gave them money, Viin.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 27, 2009, 04:38:40 PM
No, you get a few days of Automation for completing a quest. They let you sample the RMT for free. But that list is handy so I  decided to renew once it stopped showing up. Fuckers. If it was just the 4 queue I wouldn't do it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on March 27, 2009, 05:44:19 PM
Is there any strategic reason to found the towns around us?  There's a lot of spots real close.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 27, 2009, 05:49:21 PM
None. We don't have the resources to control all the town points.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on March 27, 2009, 05:56:59 PM
Just requested an invite for a little bit to you, Lorekeep.  Please. 

OK, big question ahead...  How are you building your characters for what you want to do?  I originally wanted to be a trapper to fund the town, so I pumped a bunch into Dex and traps.  I'm a level shy of being able to hunt turkey, but I can't do anymore quests because I don't have the skill.  I'm stuck on the beans and repairing fences.  So do I just suck it up and grind out this level slowly, or what?  I have a feeling that although they said you can't mess things up in the early game, I actually did. 

Maybe I should start over as a duelist/soldier. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on March 27, 2009, 06:05:12 PM
    Premium advantage:
With the 'Automation' premium bonus you get a list of all your available jobs.

I see you gave them money, Viin.

I admit, I did. It is really useful, so is queuing up 4 jobs (approx 8hrs worth) while at work. It's pretty cheap to get automation for 2 weeks, something like 5 gold nuggets or $1.90.

The full set of Premium Bonus's (4 of them) for 2 weeks costs $7.45, or $14.90 a month. But you really only need 1 or two, it's really pretty cheap. (Nice they give you the option to buy just want you want/need for whatever you are doing at the time, keeping the monthly cost down if you don't buy it all).

Here's a screenie of what the Work screen looks like with the Automation bonus:

(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/42220/TheWest-Work.png)

edit: what you can't see is column headers, which allow you to sort by any of the columns. Here it's sorted by Money.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 27, 2009, 07:17:21 PM
I'm starting to get angry telegrams from carebears. :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 27, 2009, 07:22:04 PM
(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a95d208f61.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 27, 2009, 07:35:01 PM
Ah hahahahaha. So it's YOU. :P

Well, what do you want me to do? I can tell him "If you play dead he might stop pawing your corpse and run off. Or he just might curb stomp you. You can never tell with these savages."

I'm not sure our stats are high enough to be a bully, though we technically are the dominant force in the county.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 27, 2009, 07:42:01 PM
You should tell them to stop being victims. Any of those builders should have a high enough strength to duel effectively with a melee weapon, I do. And I'm lethal.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 27, 2009, 07:42:57 PM
I could alternate counties for my duel runs if you want to avoid pissing off neighbors.  I was staying close to cut down on travel time.

Is your interface laggy/bugged?  I can't change my duel stance.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 27, 2009, 08:13:14 PM
If duel is in the queue you cant alter the settings.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 27, 2009, 08:17:27 PM
Ok thx.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 27, 2009, 08:41:13 PM
OK, told em to fuck off. We're PvP-Flagged now. :)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 27, 2009, 08:56:07 PM
Multiple bat country folk basically just sit in the towns near us farming them. Ive noticed several duelists of ours bouncing around the same spots. How do i get my duelist quest weapon?!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 28, 2009, 01:05:14 AM
Boy you guys sure are pissing off the locals. :) Are you gonna respect a Treaty if I put one in place?

Aez in particular is pissing off new Avalon something fierce.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 28, 2009, 02:02:35 AM
Im just dicking around till im big enough to head east. Im a level 10 weakling havent even seen someone from avalon. One guy who i dueled twice has apparently left his town for to be safe. I figure the smart tactic is to have all the combat people get strong then head pretty far east so retaliation becomes a choir.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 28, 2009, 03:46:28 AM
East? Everyone's like in the fucking east. We're already west. We've got good roots here. We ain't movin.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 28, 2009, 06:20:43 AM
I have no problem respecting a treaty. 

EDIT : we could plan a little surprise on New Avalon.  We wait until 5-7 of us a rdy to duel, we all move to New Avalon, someone duel their lvl 20 duelist and post the result.  The other 6 use the info to fuck him up.  Sounds fun.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 28, 2009, 08:42:01 AM
Woohoo, I got the stupid flag. :)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 28, 2009, 01:43:22 PM
Lost my first duel, against "Jake Frost".  :awesome_for_real:



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on March 28, 2009, 02:24:07 PM
Woot.  We have +Fine Motor Skill and +Animal Instinct necklaces up in the general store.  Those are. . useful.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 28, 2009, 02:34:58 PM
East? Everyone's like in the fucking east. We're already west. We've got good roots here. We ain't movin.

You dont seem to understand. Targets for dueling in abundance in the east. They have to move a huge distance to retaliate. If you are a duelist nothing gives more exp/cash. So you can unload your bar of energy in 15 mins then rest. As opposed to having to trek all around our sparse little corner.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 28, 2009, 04:58:57 PM
I don't understand dueling, but I do know that each person to challenge me has lost. I have a boomerang for fucks sake. A BOOMERANG! Oh well, I like the money. What skills should I be hitting for? I have crazy high shooting and aim, some put into tactics and dodging.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 28, 2009, 05:01:01 PM
When attacking "appearance" is the stat used. Defending its tactics. Jake frost is 4 levels higher than me and i only have a slingshot. :cry: Toughness is the defense stat used against melee. Dodge versus ranged.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 28, 2009, 09:17:12 PM
Had a nice little duel (which I lost :grin: ) with their top duelist, this is what he had to say during our brief conversation.

"why are you guys attacking our weakest member? that show kind of poor non classy strategy. attack me instead. how about it? in fact tell your town i want to be your main focus when dueling. or find an opponent whom you could beat."

 :awesome_for_real:

edit: Duh. His name is "studgunner3"


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 28, 2009, 09:34:19 PM
Their weakest member is 3-4 levels higher than me. I dueled every single available member of their town till i ran out of energy and won every time. Jake Frost (from the same town) was 3 levels higher than me yet had no qualms attacking me. Go duel the level 15-18 guys in his town they have about 30-50% life. If they drop to 0 all their work and money is forfeit.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 28, 2009, 09:36:16 PM
What happens when one actually dies?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 28, 2009, 09:41:44 PM
All cash he has on hand vanishes. I dont believe the challenger gets it all by default. All activities they have queued are canceled without having the action points refunded. And i believe they are returned to their home town. You can basically cripple a towns ability to do anything by just knocking out their workers over and over. Is there anyway to exchange money? So we can try to ransom them?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 28, 2009, 09:48:24 PM
Yeah, I probably lucked out today. I got nailed for 169 from a duelist and I was working on breaking in horses at the time (52 percent danger). I canceled it after an hour and didn't take hits. But if I had...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 28, 2009, 09:51:34 PM
Ok, that's a funny one.
Studgunner3, New Avalon's highest dueler, trash talks me with a telegram. He tells me I should prepare for perpetual defeat. He then proceed to give me a free 60 xp.
hahaha.


(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a2b10c9a45.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

It's hilarious if you read his telegram :
Quote
you like attacking my town members huh? well have fun loosing until you get the idea through your thick skull. we dont attack workers especially weak ones at that. you like attacking weaker enemies? you found me. im not weak.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on March 28, 2009, 09:57:16 PM
Awesome! That town gave me near 2 full levels of exp today. Sadly, they had dick for cash.

Edit: This is that guys towns MOTD

Quote
hey for all you guys out there acting like a bad ass. your a fruit. stop saying no telegrams when the whole point of the game is conversing and using strategies. those of you who are being lame. i will be coming for you. Your money is as good as mine.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 28, 2009, 10:02:21 PM
I want to have fun loosing.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on March 28, 2009, 11:27:30 PM
Wut?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Torinak on March 28, 2009, 11:30:22 PM
Can I get an invite to the town so I can buy a Donkey for cheap? I'll dump extra cash into the town bank and leave to keep slots free.

Character is Torinankh.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 29, 2009, 12:09:43 AM
That Blue Indian Necklace is needed for a quest so yay to that, and Yellow is better than what I had for a pure AI Necklace.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 29, 2009, 01:50:15 AM
Toss me an invite when you have room, would like to shop some.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 29, 2009, 03:18:01 AM
Just dropped out of town to free up an invite. Hopefully, the next level of residence will finally let us all in.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 29, 2009, 08:17:22 AM
You should tell them to stop being victims. Any of those builders should have a high enough strength to duel effectively with a melee weapon, I do. And I'm lethal.

I'm terrible.  Caballeros and then Ragtag made mincemeat out of me (especially Ragtag).

I don't really care, though.  As far as I can tell, I lost very little cash (I carry very little cash).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 29, 2009, 09:26:32 AM
Jake Frost is back.  Get him!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Torinak on March 29, 2009, 11:20:57 AM
Thanks for the invite, got my donkey and some random goodies, and donated $300 to the town before leaving to free up a slot.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 29, 2009, 11:21:30 AM
Bank needs an upgrade, i have to much money on my person.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 29, 2009, 11:33:16 AM
Bank needs an upgrade, i have to much money on my person.

Really? I don't have this problem (though, how much is too much?) and I'm a few levels higher than you I think. Are you selling all your excess items or something? (I'm hanging on to pretty much everything for packrat and quest reasons).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 29, 2009, 11:36:00 AM
Any money you have on your person is at risk of being stolen when someone duels you.  I try to keep zero cash on hand at all times.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on March 29, 2009, 11:52:08 AM
Any money you have on your person is at risk of being stolen when someone duels you.  I try to keep zero cash on hand at all times.

Well the town has been too full for me to be a member for any more than 3mins so far, so I'm not worrying about the dueling thing as yet. :)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 29, 2009, 01:41:10 PM
Jack Frost quited New Avalon.

I love true pvp game.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: NiX on March 29, 2009, 01:57:12 PM
Jack Frost quited New Avalon.

I love true pvp game.

Probably from me walking an hour and a half just to slap him around. Apparently he was just about to sleep too.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on March 29, 2009, 02:11:27 PM
:why_so_serious:  Nice job.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on March 29, 2009, 02:50:03 PM
Jack Frost quited New Avalon.

I love true pvp game.

(http://profile.ak.facebook.com/object3/721/30/n48058196951_8164.jpg)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 29, 2009, 02:58:41 PM
Quick question - how many construction points are you builders getting for, er, building? I got 47 for two hours on the hotel (go go +13 construction necklace) and I was wondering if that was competitive with what ya'll get.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 30, 2009, 11:41:42 AM
Yay better hotel!   :drill:  The difference is noticeable.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on March 30, 2009, 12:00:20 PM
Quick question - how many construction points are you builders getting for, er, building? I got 47 for two hours on the hotel (go go +13 construction necklace) and I was wondering if that was competitive with what ya'll get.

At 79% efficiency I got 41. My construction is 25.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 31, 2009, 08:37:36 AM
30 hours spent guarding the fort.  Still no flag.

Haven't yet hunted a turkey either.  Still about 7 points short.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on March 31, 2009, 08:50:18 AM
I feel your pain, Xanth. I don't know how many hours I've guarded the fort, but I'm sure it's north of 20. I'm RMT tricked, so I'm definitely behind the fucking odds on that one.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on March 31, 2009, 10:30:57 AM
Finally got through lvl 9, that took days.  lvl 10 allows me to brand cattle and hunt turkeys, so I'm gaining xp like mad now. 

At what point do our residences grow enough so we can all stay in town?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 31, 2009, 10:56:18 AM
Holy shit, I got a flag.

I think our next level of residence should be enough for everyone.  We don't have more than 25 people, do we?   :ye_gods:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on March 31, 2009, 11:01:41 AM
I can leave town if someone else needs the slot while residence 5 gets done.  Anyone need in?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 31, 2009, 11:51:41 AM
Oh wow, level 2 bank is a big step up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 31, 2009, 12:45:38 PM
If I knew it was that big I'd have placed extra priority on it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on March 31, 2009, 02:27:58 PM
Just for the record schild:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpsKKPuTYCI


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on March 31, 2009, 03:19:06 PM
What job will give you a Glass of Water?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 31, 2009, 03:23:03 PM
Laying Railroad.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on March 31, 2009, 04:14:32 PM
Holy shit I found one of those note pieces while trading.   :ye_gods:  They're worth like $300.  Do any quests need them?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on March 31, 2009, 09:37:30 PM
I finally got a flag. 

32 hours of fort guarding.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on March 31, 2009, 09:39:14 PM
Funny, I got a flag after only a few hours.

Can we upgrade the weaponsmith soon, daddy needs a new gun.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on March 31, 2009, 10:25:59 PM
Soon. After residence 5 we're focusing on stores.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 01, 2009, 07:53:18 AM
Gosh, this game is rough when your nuggets run out...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 01, 2009, 09:17:27 AM
I haven't bought any nuggets yet.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 01, 2009, 09:25:12 AM
Now I know how bloodworth kept up with me ;)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 01, 2009, 09:29:15 AM
Now I know how bloodworth kept up with me ;)

OMG HAX!  :grin:


This game deserved the money I gave them (about 7.50$). Tempted to re-up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 01, 2009, 10:27:13 AM
The duelers we're attracting are starting to get lethal. It's because we have so many town members. This Jannokas is being an asshole and it says I have to travel two hours to his town to take him out.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 01, 2009, 12:43:49 PM
Pick a city....and raid it.  :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 01, 2009, 01:55:16 PM
We can just start with the one right to the left of us. They seem ripe.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 01, 2009, 02:00:07 PM
We can just start with the one right to the left of us. They seem ripe.
I doubt that we could do much to them.


Name                D-Lvl
Greta Garbo     12     0     Duel not possible
njnj1            3    0    Duel not possible
Ryguy0000    1    0    Duel not possible



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 01, 2009, 02:22:56 PM
Well, let's start close and work our way out?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Polysorbate80 on April 01, 2009, 02:54:56 PM
So I scrounge up my first "firearm" and it's....a rock?  I knew the wild, wild west was low-tech, but man...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 01, 2009, 02:57:12 PM
The next step up is a hunk of granite.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Polysorbate80 on April 01, 2009, 03:14:49 PM
Yup, that's it, the hunk of granite.  Must be a complicated rock; it requires level 8 to be able to throw it  :uhrr:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 01, 2009, 03:34:07 PM
I figure if you're aiming to have around 100 levels of content and you want people to get a new gun every ten levels or so, you need to start pretty low so the last few guns aren't "a nice revolver" and "an even nicer revolver".


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 01, 2009, 03:34:46 PM
I figure if you're aiming to have around 100 levels of content and you want people to get a new gun every ten levels or so, you need to start pretty low so the last few guns aren't "a nice revolver" and "an even nicer revolver".

Or "sock full of nails."

Can you even imagine a nailsock?

Fuck.

That's my weapon for when the other shoe drops, irl.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Polysorbate80 on April 01, 2009, 03:35:49 PM
Or "sock full of nails."

Or "sock full of poop."







Don't get me wrong, it's an entertaining game.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 01, 2009, 03:36:22 PM
I knew it would take exactly one post for someone to make a poopsock joke.

Shit is old, playa.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Polysorbate80 on April 01, 2009, 03:37:37 PM
Don't like it, don't play straight man, sock-boy.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hindenburg on April 01, 2009, 03:55:02 PM
Dude got SERVED!  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 01, 2009, 04:47:23 PM
Anyone sitting on a treasure trove they need to unload? Town funds are empty and Town Hall / Residences are in the home stretch.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 01, 2009, 04:52:36 PM
Sold some products I'll hopefully won't need soon, donated my last 77 bucks.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 01, 2009, 05:13:02 PM
Well, shit.

(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/Lorekeep/MyAss01.jpg)

At least the Level Up restored all my HP. Now I'm not at risk of getting ganked in one duel.

The next quest requires me to build a bridge. That's really far away...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 01, 2009, 05:14:45 PM
Hm. Neat.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 01, 2009, 05:20:19 PM
Holy shit, you can find stray donkeys?

I'm still trading and digging graves hoping to find that goddamn green necklace.  It's the only quest I have open right now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 01, 2009, 06:16:32 PM
I'm pretty close to dumping $300 in the bank, within the next 24 hrs I'll need an invite. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 01, 2009, 07:11:40 PM
I'm off to Copper Creek to buy that damnable Grey Necklace. I'll make sure to duel some peeps while I'm up there.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on April 01, 2009, 08:22:26 PM
Anyone sitting on a treasure trove they need to unload? Town funds are empty and Town Hall / Residences are in the home stretch.

Yeah, but not part of town. :( Probably wasted 1000+ on reskilling due to nothing else to spend it on while I wait.  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 01, 2009, 08:38:45 PM
 :ye_gods:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 01, 2009, 09:13:01 PM
Anyone sitting on a treasure trove they need to unload? Town funds are empty and Town Hall / Residences are in the home stretch.

I got a little a to sell once I get back to town, probably a couple hundred I'll be depositing tonight or tomorrow morning.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 01, 2009, 10:33:36 PM
First duel against someone in Copper Creek. I'm going to do 2 more before heading back, if I have enough health.

Edit: If you are a pathetic dueler, it is hard to make a statement when you lose to someone 5 levels your junior by 1 HP (only hitting each other once) and giving them 89 experience points for free.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 01, 2009, 11:33:05 PM
Need better guns. 

 :grin:

Knife to a gunfight, etc.  In my case it's a slingshot.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sparky on April 02, 2009, 03:31:57 PM
I like how repairing what is clearly a post-and-rail fence is easier than installing barbed wire, ugh how unrealistic can you get  :angryfist:

Anyway in as DorisDents when you have a free spot in the town (no rush I'm still a level 7 nub)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 02, 2009, 05:45:07 PM
Not sure who the lefteye fella was but he was booted to make room for people who are going to give cash to the town. Hawkbit, yer up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 02, 2009, 06:16:28 PM
Lefteye = Falconeer


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 02, 2009, 08:31:07 PM
I'll be in and out in about 15min.  $500 in the bank. 

EDIT:  It was only $460 I put in because there was a pretty decent upgrade for my neck slot.  I already dropped out of town.  Thanks!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 02, 2009, 09:28:11 PM
We might actually have enough money for the level 5 residences now.  After that, the store upgrades!   :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 02, 2009, 09:31:36 PM
We might actually have enough money for the level 5 residences now.  After that, the store upgrades!   :drill:

Yay store upgrades!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on April 02, 2009, 10:06:39 PM
We might actually have enough money for the level 5 residences now.  After that, the store upgrades!   :drill:

Joy, I'll be able to be a member at last and get dueled all the time! Wait... what are the benefits of being in a town again?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xerapis on April 02, 2009, 10:44:16 PM
Bitches and booze.

Conveniently co-located to form a deliciously target-rich environment.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 03, 2009, 03:23:32 AM
Joy, I'll be able to be a member at last and get dueled all the time! Wait... what are the benefits of being in a town again?

You can duel others? If you deposit your funds as you obtain them there is no negative to being dueled. Unless they gang rape you to the point of death.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 03, 2009, 05:27:33 AM
I cheked the top ranked town and gunsmith lvl 7 is what we need.  They have a nice 15-30 dmg gun :drill:
I would buy it there but it cost 2000$.

I can't compete in duel anymore.  I fought 2 guy with a 15-20 dmg weapon and they were hiting me for 30 dmg while I'm hilting them for 7-12...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 03, 2009, 07:29:10 AM
Item levels are starting to bug me.  Level 19 doing difficulty 84 jobs and I am finding level 3-7 items?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 03, 2009, 07:58:11 AM
I bet crappy items are yet another "incentive" to pay for premium services.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 03, 2009, 11:41:58 AM
Is there a premium option to get better items?  I thought you got them mainly by levelling up your shops.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 03, 2009, 12:35:42 PM
From jobs, but not from the shops. What the shops give is random. Once we get it up to 3/4 (now a priority) we should start to see better items.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 03, 2009, 12:49:23 PM


"A turkey bites you. You lose 101 health points."


I'd rather brand cattle.  I only lose 1 or 2 points getting hurt doing that.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 03, 2009, 12:51:22 PM


"A turkey bites you. You lose 101 health points."


I'd rather brand cattle.  I only lose 1 or 2 points getting hurt doing that.



(http://www.animationbuddy.com/Animation/Animals/Chickens_and_Turkeys/Turkey_warrior.gif)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Chinchilla on April 03, 2009, 01:08:53 PM
I'm still hanging around the town.  I'm level 10 almost 11.  StDrahcir is the name.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 03, 2009, 04:56:04 PM
Residences in the home stretch. Let's get it done and start building our shops.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on April 03, 2009, 05:23:38 PM
I'm moving to Carving out Claims for fat cash, straight to the Treasury.




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 03, 2009, 05:24:37 PM
Lorekeep, I'll actually have the residences done in the next hour (already an hour into the 2 hour queue).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 03, 2009, 06:15:10 PM
Please invite DrBirtz once there's enough room.




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 03, 2009, 06:23:38 PM
Same with Hawkbit please.  I'll need in for a bit next week at least for some upgrades and a donkey show. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 03, 2009, 06:52:28 PM
Residences finished, three invites sent.  We have room for three more; who else isn't currently in the town that should be?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 03, 2009, 08:30:39 PM
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/Lorekeep/WahWahWah01.jpg)

Wah Wah Waaaaaah.

Note when you die: You lose all Energy too.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on April 03, 2009, 08:37:22 PM
Learn to swim!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 03, 2009, 08:44:37 PM
"A turkey bites you. You lose 70 health points."

Wth is with these turkeys?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 03, 2009, 09:00:43 PM
Learn to swim!

Actually my swimming score is my highest stat. :) I think it was the fall that hurt me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 03, 2009, 09:57:50 PM
Can we has better shops now?  I really want a better general store so I can hopefully get a green necklace and complete the one thing in my quest book.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on April 03, 2009, 10:09:53 PM
Invite me please! gotleather is the name.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 03, 2009, 11:55:08 PM
Can we has better shops now?  I really want a better general store so I can hopefully get a green necklace and complete the one thing in my quest book.

You know, I have 5 quests unfinished because I've been building all that other stuff.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 04, 2009, 12:26:03 AM
Just go buy the damn thing for $300. :P The necklace you get sells for $365.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 04, 2009, 02:10:38 AM
BAH.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: luckton on April 04, 2009, 01:59:41 PM
*drops lurker cloak*

Invite please...I'll lend a hand with stuff, or something.

*clicks the lurker button again*


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Polysorbate80 on April 04, 2009, 02:19:14 PM
Thanks for the invite, Sam, but I already started my own (pointless) town just north of BC.  "Festering Dungheap" should be up in a couple hours.  Why?  Because I can :P

Edit:  Aaaaand, it's up.  Already got random people pestering me for invites.  Tempted to let them in so you have more dueling targets, but then they'd just whine at me to actually put up buildings 'n stuff instead of chilling in my own private Thunderdome  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 04, 2009, 09:31:01 PM
So, I just took a look at our residents list.  Why the hell do so many people have so much cash on them?   :ye_gods:  Are we trying to make sure enemy duelers get paid for their time?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 04, 2009, 10:12:18 PM
Because I'm on 48-hour lockout for being KO'd and can't be dueled.

 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 04, 2009, 10:57:35 PM
As an aside, just dumped close to $900 in the kitty. So get thee to building.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 05, 2009, 12:19:43 AM
Keeping a quest that involves a fight so you can KO yourself before resting seems like an easy way to make builders immune to be being farmed. Does anyone know if character level is a modifier of skills in duels?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 05, 2009, 07:53:22 AM
What is the difference between getting KO'd and getting killed?

I died and lost all my energy and money.  I assume this isn't what you're talking about.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: FatuousTwat on April 05, 2009, 08:35:04 AM
Just started, name is Fatuous13, can I get an invite?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 05, 2009, 08:52:51 AM
Giving it a try as Kageru, will drop by and visit your little home on the prairie.

As I understand it I don't want an invite because I'm a poor noob, spaces are limited that would make me a target for duels.

Is it possible to be competitive at duels with melee weapons or are they just a step on the path to guns? Any hints on levelling a character up to where they might win duels would be welcome too. Then again looking at the f13 saloon most of you seem to be duelling with rocks  :ye_gods:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 05, 2009, 03:21:25 PM
What is the difference between getting KO'd and getting killed?

I died and lost all my energy and money.  I assume this isn't what you're talking about.

It is the same thing. Wait until you are about to sleep anyway and don't have any cash on hand. Shouldn't carry cash about regardless. It almost assures getting dueled repeatedly.

Quote
Is it possible to be competitive at duels with melee weapons or are they just a step on the path to guns? Any hints on levelling a character up to where they might win duels would be welcome too.

Just as effective but uses vigor to determine damage instead of shooting. You can win duels against opponents 5-6 levels above you pretty easily just focus on the stats that involve fighting. Biggest advantage with firearms is the damage stat (shooting) and aiming both use dex. So investing points in dex gives a bonus to them both.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 05, 2009, 04:16:55 PM
The green necklace is the one for that quest? If so, I just got one from digging graves (my activity of choice when building is too low on the productivity meter).

(also, yellow clothing@tailor, awesome)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 05, 2009, 05:39:34 PM
Can we get an updated build order? Just curious so we don't flail about with 50 percent everything.

My thoughts:

Tailor 4
Gen Store 4
Gunsmith 3
Bank 3
Town Hall 5
Town Hall 6
Tailor 5
Gen Store 5
Gunsmith 4


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 05, 2009, 05:50:05 PM
Gunsmith needs to be a higher priority.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 05, 2009, 06:35:13 PM

So to be a good little defending soldier you'd invest in aiming, tactics, dodge, shooting and reflex (appearance if you want to attack) meaning focus stat points in either mobility or dexterity and level by doing jobs that use shooty type skills. And buy a rock ASAP so you're not using the default melee fist. Other than that just invest lots of time. Corrections welcome if there's something I missed or if some of the skills are better for duels / working.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 05, 2009, 06:41:10 PM
If you were a soldier you would want to be melee. Tactics is the defend bonus for dueling and gets a boost by being a soldier. Reflex/toughness is defense against ranged/melee. Soldiers bonus for health meshes well with melee. Stats also have a level cap so i was forced to invest in other places. You exp MUCH faster dueling than jobs so don't even worry about them. Pumping strength will give you all sorts of higher end options for money later (im assuming).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 05, 2009, 07:35:34 PM
I went 10-1 vs dudes from copper creek and little romania.  Only one I lost was because they attacked me with a better gun.  I especially liked the dude who said not to attack him if he didn't have the right gear on.  He got shot in the face anyway.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 05, 2009, 08:09:40 PM
I'm not sure i'd recommend a strength based soldier.  Here's a couple of reason :

Most duelers/soldiers are based on strength, you can gain an advantage by heavily investing in toughness/shooting.  You'll be specialized in defeating the most common type of opponent.

The high lvl soldier quests are based on dex job. I know it's possible to live with out them but I still think it's nice to eventually finish all the quest lines.

The health point synergy isn't really valuable. As a subscriber soldier, my defense is so good with the 100% bonus to tactic that I never went below 75% of my health with minimal investment in the health skill.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 05, 2009, 08:32:45 PM
I haven't been dueled recently - are we still getting attacked by those towns?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 05, 2009, 08:34:27 PM
Largest benefit for the solder is the weapon level bonus. Being a subscriber without a weapon 6 levels higher is wasting the goodness. Health isnt a big issue but at least provides an immediate benefit as opposed to a duelist bonus. If you are not going to make use of any of a soldiers bonus's better off being an adventurer. The benefit of finding additional weapons/cash is at least valuable. Defense is nice but a majority of the combat characters seem stick to fights they know they can win.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 05, 2009, 08:40:26 PM
It seems from the documentation that they may be adding forts and shootouts (and sherifs) at some point in the future. It sounds like that's going to be heavily firearms dependent so I'll go dex focused and buy myself a rock. I can see quite a bit of throwing rocks at birds in my immediate future. I also need to train myself not to watch the timer tick down, this game is the polar opposite of twitch.

Hm, does this logic seem sound?

Each of the attributes has two combat related skills attached to it. Strength gets an innate advantage in that points into strength generate health as well, though health is only useful if it helps you avoid losing due to KO (taking a lot of damage in one duel or getting duelled a lot) and does go up via levelling. Charisma has one skill only usable on offence and one on defence and these are modifiers on aiming. So it looks like for a defensive soldier you'd want to balance stats between mobility and dexterity (so you can work more jobs, do more quests) and use the skill points to boost dueling skills and tactics, with the occasional point in toughness and health.

I can see why strength based melee soldiers are attractive, and why workers could be quite deadly with a good melee weapon... but then rifles aren't in the game and that would be more a soldiers weapon. For a balanced town soldiers focusing on ranged since the builders will be heavily focused on strength seems logical.

Of course this assumes all the skills are balanced. If getting the hit is more important than taking the hit then reflex, toughness and health are a lower priority. I assume this is the case (hits hurt) and aiming followed by dodge, tactics / appearance are the focus. Obviously I'm too low to actually have actually duelled so it's pure theory-craft on my part.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 06, 2009, 08:11:45 AM
What is the difference between getting KO'd and getting killed?

I died and lost all my energy and money.  I assume this isn't what you're talking about.

It is the same thing. Wait until you are about to sleep anyway and don't have any cash on hand. Shouldn't carry cash about regardless. It almost assures getting dueled repeatedly.

I don't carry cash, but when I died it was before I was a resident, so I couldn't deposit to town.  I lost all my donkey money.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 06, 2009, 08:54:38 AM

I have to say they've come up with a really great way to encourage you to level. The initial character portraits are disturbingly goofy. Almost got level 5 before the blue bar ran out of steam.

Well armed with my trusty Pebble I fear no evil and will mosey my way across the map. I do like the game mechanic that joining a town PvP enables you but at the same time allows you to protect yourself from PvP thanks to the bank and free hotel stays, that's reasonably balanced. Being charged 4x the cost for buying stuff plus restricted range if you're not a town member is somewhat punitive.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 06, 2009, 03:03:35 PM
Did someone say "Festering dung heap" was a satellite town? If this is true, we may wish to start developing it, that and i am not sure how high residences go per town..

Also, what the hell is going on in the north west of us? its like some kind of migration!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 06, 2009, 04:06:34 PM
Bah. Bad Luck on the Gunsmith upgrade... nothing for me.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Polysorbate80 on April 06, 2009, 04:22:55 PM
Did someone say "Festering dung heap" was a satellite town? If this is true, we may wish to start developing it, that and i am not sure how high residences go per town..

Also, what the hell is going on in the north west of us? its like some kind of migration!

It's my own personal town (because I'm antisocial and I smell bad or something).  I plan on finishing my Mortician (at 20% currently) and then may never upgrade anything again  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xerapis on April 06, 2009, 04:31:28 PM
I'm in as Xerapis, hanging out in your town, using your hotel.

It's ironic that the gunsmith HAS NO GUNS.

Oh well, I find a nice broken wine bottle! lol

Probably going to go adventurer or soldier, unless we really need something else, in which case I'll be respeccing later. ~shrug~


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 06, 2009, 04:42:43 PM
I dont believe you can respec. It warns you like 3 times spec is permanent when choosing one.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 06, 2009, 04:51:19 PM
Yeah, you can respec your skills (at $50 per skill point), but not your class choice.  So pick that one carefully.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xerapis on April 06, 2009, 05:11:24 PM
Yeah, I haven't selected a class yet, level not high enough.

Was referring to skill respec. Which would be annoying to do after class selection, but not completely impossible?

Anyway...I'll go back to fishing.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 06, 2009, 09:07:28 PM
Did someone say "Festering dung heap" was a satellite town? If this is true, we may wish to start developing it, that and i am not sure how high residences go per town..

Also, what the hell is going on in the north west of us? its like some kind of migration!

Residences are 10 levels at 5 people per level, though no idea if there's some initial capacity.

That swarm of people confused me too. It looks like most of them are low level and there's no way I can see to manually park yourself out in the grasslands... so maybe thats the game distributing inactive players over the map?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 06, 2009, 09:15:07 PM
Bah. Bad Luck on the Gunsmith upgrade... nothing for me.  :why_so_serious:

Gah, what a waste. All I want is a shotgun!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 07, 2009, 03:32:29 AM
I think the first shotguns are the next level.

Residences finished, three invites sent.  We have room for three more; who else isn't currently in the town that should be?

I'm not sure what the criteria for "should be" is but I'd certainly welcome an invite if / when there's space (Kageru in game, only level 6).

Fascinating watching the map evolve. There's already some really big towns and a whole bunch of alliances and feuds. In addition an increasing number of ghost towns where someone's founded a town and then realised just how much work is involved.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 07, 2009, 09:57:14 AM
Did someone say "Festering dung heap" was a satellite town? If this is true, we may wish to start developing it, that and i am not sure how high residences go per town..

Also, what the hell is going on in the north west of us? its like some kind of migration!

Residences are 10 levels at 5 people per level, though no idea if there's some initial capacity.

That swarm of people confused me too. It looks like most of them are low level and there's no way I can see to manually park yourself out in the grasslands... so maybe thats the game distributing inactive players over the map?


(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7528/whattwy.th.png) (http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7528/whattwy.png)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 07, 2009, 10:32:59 AM
Motherfucker.  Two assholes from Copper Springs just dueled me within 5 minutes of each other.  Are they teaming up to try to KO us now?  That would be annoying.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 07, 2009, 10:37:00 AM
The Copper people have 4 in our town right now (2x duelers 2x soldiers I think).  Yeah they are trying to knock people out.  I was already back and sleeping safe.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 07, 2009, 10:40:54 AM
All right, which one of you monkey men decided to go rile up the biggest crowd of PvPers in our area?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 07, 2009, 10:50:23 AM
I attacked a few of them a couple of times.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 07, 2009, 10:55:25 AM
Made a post on the town forum, if we don't attack their builders, they promise to stop. Personally I don't like to be bullied.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 07, 2009, 10:57:29 AM
guys guys

what is this

are we pussying out?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 07, 2009, 11:06:18 AM
I posted in the town forum.  We really need a better gunsmith...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 07, 2009, 11:09:35 AM
You punk bitches need to get out there and camp their dam town, yah yellow bellies!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 07, 2009, 11:38:06 AM
Since I suck at PvP I'm going to leave the town long enough to burn all my energy.  Then I'll rejoin so they can KO me and give me 48 hours of protection without costing me any productivity.   :awesome_for_real:  Please to be sending me a re-invite.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 07, 2009, 12:04:28 PM
I did it.  They're on the go kill em list.  So I did.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 07, 2009, 12:59:18 PM
Are you attacking their duelers or are you being stupid and attacking their builders? Because they have a big red sign that says "We'll bring everyone onto you."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 07, 2009, 01:00:18 PM
I attack any of them that are near me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 07, 2009, 01:25:45 PM
Don't attack their builders.  It's bad enough they have better duelers than most of our town, but they also have 4 towns worth of them. These guys have played the game since World 1. They don't fuck around and honestly I'm tired of the bullying routine they're pushing on us.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 07, 2009, 01:38:24 PM
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww :(


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 07, 2009, 01:50:09 PM
Wait.  This is how we go out?  A 'The West' guild?  Really?  If I'm not mistaken, you put them on the list.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 07, 2009, 02:32:05 PM
Hm? I'm not quitting. I'm also a take no prisoners kind of guy, but Lorekeep (while he hasn't said it yet), wants us to back off until Forts are in. That's a reasonable request. As we can then utterly destroy them. Also, we have more builders than them, so it's somewhat strategic to not fuck around with them as they can cripple us (despite the fact I can give someone a bad fucking case of gangrene with my ice pick).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 07, 2009, 02:38:09 PM
All we have to do is not attack the builders, while continuing to attack their adventurers and duelists. That's okay for now. We wait.

Hmm, just checked, and three of them incapped me, doing some 540 damage. Changed my mind. Their workers all die as soon as I have health back.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 07, 2009, 03:30:26 PM
Yah I'm incapped too. Those f*ckers hit hard.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xerapis on April 07, 2009, 03:51:04 PM
Woohoo!

Level 9! And I found a slingshot that I can't use yet   :awesome_for_real:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're not a town member you can't see store products above the first store level? Cause the Bat Country stores have been upgraded, and I still only see basic items. Or is it just that my level is too low to even look at the shiney?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 07, 2009, 03:52:49 PM
Well.  I got spam attacked by duelers/soldiers with better weapon.  Lost 200$ today.  I don't think I'll ever be able to accumulate 2000$.
I'll give what's left to the town but we badly need a better gunsmith.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 07, 2009, 04:14:19 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're not a town member you can't see store products above the first store level? Cause the Bat Country stores have been upgraded, and I still only see basic items. Or is it just that my level is too low to even look at the shiney?
You only see products 2 levels below the actual shop level.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 07, 2009, 04:15:50 PM
Well.  I got spam attacked by duelers/soldiers with better weapon.  Lost 200$ today.  I don't think I'll ever be able to accumulate 2000$.
I'll give what's left to the town but we badly need a better gunsmith.
I am sure I'll get knocked out in the next 6 hours. I have no cash on me so all they will get is a tiny bit of XP and I'll have 48 hours to raise some funds/level up/wait for decent guns showing up on our gunsmith.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 07, 2009, 04:43:52 PM
If you are a member of a town, you should never be carrying any cash on you if you can help it. 

If you need to save up for something big, keep it in the form of extra items in your inventory (if you're like me, you get about as much value-wise in goods as you do in cash), and sell them only when you need to buy something bigger than your bank account.

Any actual cash that doesn't fit in your bank account should go into the treasury.  Better there than in some enemy dueler's pocket, and the more we build, the more will fit in the bank.

Also, I still need an invite, assuming we have space for me to have one lying around.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 07, 2009, 05:02:39 PM
Yeah, lesson learned I guess.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xerapis on April 07, 2009, 05:07:32 PM
If there's room, I'd appreciate an invite as well. Don't want to lose my donkey savings, meager though it may be.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 07, 2009, 05:33:19 PM
Is there anyway to dole out funds from the town bank? So we can keep a surplus that we can withdraw and use to buy gear at another town? Lots of towns offer shopping passes for free or a small fee.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 07, 2009, 05:43:09 PM
Is there anyway to dole out funds from the town bank? So we can keep a surplus that we can withdraw and use to buy gear at another town? Lots of towns offer shopping passes for free or a small fee.

Are "shopping passes" actual passes or "join our town for a day to buy your shit then leave"?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 07, 2009, 05:46:29 PM
Is there anyway to dole out funds from the town bank? So we can keep a surplus that we can withdraw and use to buy gear at another town? Lots of towns offer shopping passes for free or a small fee.

Are "shopping passes" actual passes or "join our town for a day to buy your shit then leave"?

This.

And no, no way to get funds out of the town bank.  Anything in the treasury stays there until it's used for building.  Which is usually pretty quick.  The only bank you can withdraw from is your own account (which currently maxes at $250).

Like I said, the way around it is not to sell your surplus goods.  I have about $700 worth of random surplus right now that I'm saving in case a quest needs me to spend a big pile of cash at once on something.  (The notes you get from trading are worth almost $300 each, and I've found two of them so far.)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 07, 2009, 06:27:48 PM
Damn, two? I've only recently got to Trading ability, so I've only done 8-10 hours. I'll switch between it & Cutting Trees for the level 23 quest.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 07, 2009, 06:55:10 PM
I've been doing a lot of trading because it's got the highest Luck of anything I can do (grave digging is another good one for that), and I like random loots.  The two notes has to be a fluke, because it's listed as being much rarer than my luck would indicate.  The cloth isn't bad either, though, and I think there's a quest at some point that uses it.  And I have found some very decent clothes.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 07, 2009, 07:52:27 PM
Ya ive been saving items to conserve bank space for awhile now. But since 90% of my income comes from other players i really cant store it. And with such a huge gear disparity that im just beginning to feel we really cant protect the town. Maybe have the fighters join up in dung heap (does it have a mortician?) while the workers and money makers buff up the shops. Have fighters join to deposit some cash as needed. Every town ive ventured out to is allied with 2-3 other towns.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 07, 2009, 07:58:28 PM
It seems like most towns don't get offended at you picking off their adventurers.  And speaking as an adventurer, I don't think we're generally any better at dueling than workers are (all of my skill points go towards stuff for jobs).  So my inclination would be to leave the workers alone if there's a big taboo on them, and stick to fleecing either lower level duelers/soldiers or equal level adventurers.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 07, 2009, 08:01:30 PM
One of them just tried to duel me. He did like 2 more damage than me and got $4. Woooooo for him!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 07, 2009, 08:13:43 PM

Considering a lot of you are level 20+ and fighting with level 10 slingshots it looks like you're going to be on the defensive until you can even the gear gap.

I guess it's always best to be a peaceful and law-abiding town.... until you've finished your weapons research :)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 07, 2009, 08:51:07 PM
Aez is trying to surpass my dueling rank! I also just lost a duel by 4 hps. Hits me twice i hit him 5 times and he still won. :heartbreak:. If you are a worker and you dont have many points in dodge. You can turn off your dodge and it will double your attack roll.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 07, 2009, 10:28:07 PM
ORLY?  I wondered why the hell there was an option to not dodge.  If I ever get invited back I'll try that.  I might at least be able to fuck the other guy up before he takes my lunch money.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 08, 2009, 12:35:48 AM
We're not going to own them when forts come out, but we'll be able to own our county unless they open a local chapter in our area.  The point is that we can duel them and they can duel us, but only Duelers / Soldiers / Adventurers (? Asking about that.) If you attack their builders, which is like kicking their women and children, then they go from casual rage to focused rage, and we're ALL gonna get incapacitated, which sucks. I'm trying to get them to lay off.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 08, 2009, 01:19:59 AM

Zabar from copper creek has a Precise Shotgun hitting for 10-36 (gunsmith 4)
Lorekeep has a slingshot hitting for 6-12 (gunsmith 1-3)

Seems to me some weapon parity would help the situation a whole heap.




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 08, 2009, 01:24:56 AM
I have no problem dumping all my points into the gunsmith.

If you want us to do that (as adventurers) since you seem to be getting slaughtered, just start depositing money. I only build for like 30 minutes today because the town was broke. I saw people walking around with a few hundy today. I have like $60 to my name. We can fast track gunsmith to the max, but we need the funds to do it - and that's the hard part.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 08, 2009, 01:36:08 AM
I have to trek back to town to deposit. But the guys camping our town are now awake so ill have to wait. Almost incapacitated me in 1 round.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 08, 2009, 01:59:26 AM
Being out of town doesn't actually protect you though? Eventually they'll run out of energy at least... and then sleep in your hotel. Which as I can see is what Zabar is doing now.

I would expect since duellists level through combat they're always going to be on the lookout for a town with lots of (ideally rich) members with a low duelling levels.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 08, 2009, 02:32:05 AM
Just rejoined the town and dumped about 1200 bucks into the treasury. I'm currently putting 2 hours into the bank and have enough energy to put in 2 more before I sleep in the hotel and leave the town to build up funds again.

Or would you rather I stayed and kept building? My construction skill at 20 isn't exceptional and I get the impression that we've got more workers than we need.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 08, 2009, 02:44:09 AM
Being out of town doesn't actually protect you though? Eventually they'll run out of energy at least... and then sleep in your hotel. Which as I can see is what Zabar is doing now.

It has nothing to do with protection. But if i am attacked during my 3 hour hike back to town i will die and lose my money.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on April 08, 2009, 02:55:04 AM
Inactive for about 2 weeks. Kick me from the town if you need room during that time.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 08, 2009, 03:07:14 AM
We should just kick you anyway so you aren't free duel fodder.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 08, 2009, 06:03:16 AM
Precise shotgun is gunsmith lvl 7, not lvl 4.  It cost 2000$ if you want to buy it from an other town.

I'm not sure why we pissed off a town so much stronger than us but it wasn't a good idea.


- Should we exile and sleep in hotels so they can't spam attack us all at the same time?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 08, 2009, 06:33:53 AM
Seriously guys. Why the hell are we going out of our way to provoke larger more powerful towns that are allied with larger more powerful towns?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 08, 2009, 06:37:57 AM
Precise shotgun is gunsmith lvl 7, not lvl 4.  It cost 2000$ if you want to buy it from an other town.

I'm not sure why we pissed off a town so much stronger than us but it wasn't a good idea.


- Should we exile and sleep in hotels so they can't spam attack us all at the same time?
Nah. Just wait till it is your "turn" to ge knocked out and enjoy 48 harrasment free hours. I still don't see the big deal. Well. If I had only dueling as my sole source of xp/$, ...  :ye_gods:



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 08, 2009, 07:39:10 AM
Precise shotgun is gunsmith lvl 7, not lvl 4.  It cost 2000$ if you want to buy it from an other town.

Then you had better go and correct their stats website which shows it as coming from a level 4 gunsmith. Are you sure you're not getting it mixed up with the fact you can only see items more than two levels below the gunsmith if you are not a town member? In which case yes, you'd need a level 7 gunsmith and a stupidly large amount of cash.

This also matches the fact that copper creek where he's from has a level 4 gunsmith.

In practice though once people start getting a weapon advantage duellists are going to be looking for towns to farm. Whether you aggravated them or not. If you guys had the shotguns and they had the slingshots you'd be leaving them alone?  :oh_i_see:



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 08, 2009, 07:43:24 AM
The items that become available are random i am almost certain.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 08, 2009, 08:05:19 AM
I suspect it gives you N items from within the level pool. Can go look at the table here (http://www.weststats.com/Shops/gunsmith/) and compare it with what you have since you guys can see what your gunsmith has to offer, all I see is a broken whisky bottle and a firestone. I guess limited goods and supporting larger populations are the incentives to support more than one town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 08, 2009, 08:40:58 AM
Not only do we need to build our shops, but we need to build our bank and hotel up.  I'm bumping up against not being back to full after sleeping and with these assholes dueling me constantly, it's annoying.

Also, we can't ignore town hall.  Ignoring town hall is a bad idea in that every level saves us construction points on every other building.

Getting knocked out isn't so terrific - maybe you can't be dueled for 48 hours but you still end up losing a day or whatever to regen.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 08, 2009, 08:54:26 AM
The way things are currently there's just no good reason for a lot of us to remain in town if we don't want to be dueled. Just quit the town and build up money in peace then come back to make a deposit and let us workers do the building we need to do.

Hmm, you know with that second town we could probably arrange to allow it's members to farm us builders for experience. If we're going to be farmed anyway it might as well be by our own people.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 08, 2009, 08:57:06 AM
We need vicious allies to protect us. Whose the diplomat?  I


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 08, 2009, 10:05:57 AM
Sadly you can't protect a town other than the threat of permanent mutual worker incapacitating, which is the current trend. The mechanics would work a lot better if the challenger did not have so much freedom to pick targets they know they can beat. Rather you have to roll into town and duel a random person in your level range. That way you'd want a town full of well armed duellists to provide a shield for the workers. I guess this is probably the roll the town sheriff was meant to fill.

A more immediate option is join the town if you can fight on even terms (that way you'll earn xp sometimes, they'll get wounded) or go without a town other than when making deposits, buying or building. The smaller population would also make the town a much less tempting target. This does mean you'll lose the energy boost provide by a high level hotel though. Actually I guess a high level hotel is a balancing mechanism too. The locals will be healing and gaining energy much faster than the visitor.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 08, 2009, 10:27:02 AM
Actually, a lot of the problems would be solved if (a) you could duel someone in your own town immediately rather than walking all the way from your town to their town, and (b) you could kick them out of your hotel/prevent them from using it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 08, 2009, 11:02:24 AM

Being able to duel strangers in your town is indeed a very elegant and simple solution. The hotel idea might not be that much of a limitation because the towns are so close together, so there will mostly be a location to sleep nearby. You could extend it that a hotel grants energy but healing requires a doctor (another western archetype after all) and gunshot wounds can only be treated at your own or an allied town. I guess that means if you get incapacitated in a foreign town you end up back in your own hotel.




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 08, 2009, 11:46:50 AM
So the verdict is that this game comes real close to being awesome but because of those minor PvP stupid decisions it's just plain good.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 08, 2009, 12:24:05 PM
So the verdict is that this game comes real close to being awesome but because of those minor PvP stupid decisions it's just plain good.

Yes.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 08, 2009, 12:26:02 PM
So the verdict is that this game comes real close to being awesome but because of those minor PvP stupid decisions it's just plain good.

I just think we joined before the others parts have been added. Namely, sheriff and forts.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 08, 2009, 12:37:54 PM
I just got a town invite from someone four counties away.  WTF.   :uhrr:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 08, 2009, 12:57:40 PM
Hmm, you know with that second town we could probably arrange to allow it's members to farm us builders for experience. If we're going to be farmed anyway it might as well be by our own people.

That's a very good idea. If we incap each other we'll build XP. Since there is no XP loss, as soon as somebody runs low on health or energy they can announce themselves as an internal target and the "exiles" then cap them for some XP. For people spending energy on this, it saves traveling to other towns to find victims - you get local XP targets with equally shit weapons that don't retaliate.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 08, 2009, 01:06:30 PM
Only costs 300 and 8 hours to build a second town. But I wish we had the numbers on here where we needed a second town anyway.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 08, 2009, 01:17:46 PM
Only costs 300 and 8 hours to build a second town. But I wish we had the numbers on here where we needed a second town anyway.

The town right next door is a F13 town....


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 08, 2009, 01:38:32 PM
The power of cheese?

I like the flag.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 08, 2009, 01:47:31 PM
The power of cheese?

I like the flag.

Yeah. Not sure what hes doing with it. Great location for a subtown.

Did someone say "Festering dung heap" was a satellite town? If this is true, we may wish to start developing it, that and i am not sure how high residences go per town..

Also, what the hell is going on in the north west of us? its like some kind of migration!

It's my own personal town (because I'm antisocial and I smell bad or something).  I plan on finishing my Mortician (at 20% currently) and then may never upgrade anything again  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Polysorbate80 on April 08, 2009, 01:50:43 PM
I felt like changing the name, and "Russian Raccoon Rapists" was too long for the name box.  :grin:

If someone wants, I can invite you; just let me know.  The only construction that's been done to date though is the mortician, at 34% currently.  It needs to be finished before you can hook up and challenge Bat Country to duels.

Edit:  I suppose if you come over, then the folks in Bat can still duel you, so that would work as well


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 08, 2009, 01:59:09 PM
Sadly you can't protect a town other than the threat of permanent mutual worker incapacitating, which is the current trend. The mechanics would work a lot better if the challenger did not have so much freedom to pick targets they know they can beat. Rather you have to roll into town and duel a random person in your level range. That way you'd want a town full of well armed duellists to provide a shield for the workers. I guess this is probably the roll the town sheriff was meant to fill.

That would be interesting. At which point you could weigh the dice roll based on the hiding skill of everybody in the town.  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 08, 2009, 03:50:08 PM
Ok, the precision on item availability cheers me up.  Can't wait for my shotgun.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 08, 2009, 05:47:08 PM
Developing a second town is a large investment unless you have > 50 people interested or want a second roll on the item list.

This is world PvP in a nutshell though. The side with the numbers, time and gear advantage farms the lesser. If you want to chase them off then remove their source of XP by leaving the town (the safe zone), grinding dollars and rejoining when they've left or to deposit / shop. If there's only a couple of builders they'll get poor XP and can't actually halt any building thanks to the 48 hour rule. A level 2 hotel is even ideal since that means our adventurers still get to use their class benefit, and for the rest 10$ a night is not too bad.

I guess essentially: High level character in town with low level shops = fat juicy bundle of XP for duellists mousing around the map.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 08, 2009, 06:11:21 PM
That and we're the only high level characters around, likely.

BTW, this is neat: even if you leave town, your stats are saved for what you have contributed to the town. I'm stuck as leader, but if you're going to be out of the hotel for awhile, you can leave the town and come back when you need to sleep / drop off cash. I'm usually around to reinvite. Just send a telegram and remind me you're with F13.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 08, 2009, 06:26:22 PM
I won't leave.  There going to have a surprise if they try to spam attack me once I have my shotgun!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 08, 2009, 08:35:06 PM
Im surprised ive only been attacked twice. Both duels relatively close and then im ignored. I am walking to their town atm maybe im to small for their main guys to attack? Since they are farming workers their dueling level will get stupid high. We need to make friends. Every decent sized town has 2-3 allies.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 08, 2009, 08:57:59 PM
Nice, gunsmith lvl 4.  Think it's possible to rush the next lvl?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 08, 2009, 09:18:19 PM
Oh nice, we got the good melee weapon!  I'm gonna buy one of those and cut a bitch.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 08, 2009, 10:04:40 PM
Those melee weapons make baby jesus cry - we're gunslingers, not back alley brawlers!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 08, 2009, 10:07:31 PM
Actually, I'm a back alley brawler.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 08, 2009, 10:43:37 PM

How many new items did you get on the upgrade? If it was 2 of 6 or similar that could hurt with bad rolls.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 08, 2009, 10:56:51 PM
Yes, it's two of six. There are three shotguns at gunsmith 4 - rusty shotgun (level 17), shotgun (level 20), precise shotgun (level 23). There are three daggers at gunsmith 4 - rusty dagger (level 17), push dagger (level 20), sharp dagger (level 23). We got the worst gun and the best dagger.

At level five there are only three guns in the roll table. Rusty muzzle-loader (level 22), muzzle-loader (level 25) and precise muzzle-loader (level 28).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 09, 2009, 02:32:36 AM
At level five there are only three guns in the roll table. Rusty muzzle-loader (level 22), muzzle-loader (level 25) and precise muzzle-loader (level 28).
Push to 5 then, I really really need a decent gun.  :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 09, 2009, 02:58:40 AM
Even the rusty shotgun should be a decent step up from the slingshots.

... I take it back, not much of an upgrade at all. The difference between it and the precise is huge.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 09, 2009, 03:51:27 AM
Even the rusty shotgun should be a decent step up from the slingshots.

... I take it back, not much of an upgrade at all. The difference between it and the precise is huge.
Lets hope for the best.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 09, 2009, 07:56:08 AM
We're pushing to five then.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 09, 2009, 08:04:06 AM
People who are on the bottom / lowest level players are going to be dismissed for higher level / cash providing players. If you're below Level 10, focus on getting yourself higher level. If you need town services, just let me know and I'll do a swap invite.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 09, 2009, 08:25:13 AM
Anyone know where to get a "Glass of water"?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: lamaros on April 09, 2009, 08:26:58 AM
Left the town, back in 2 weeks.

Water from laying railroad tracks.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 09, 2009, 08:47:58 AM
Looks like we will need more residences if interest continues to grow as well.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 09, 2009, 10:31:53 AM
Ha!  I got KOed, but I timed it so I lost only $3 and about 10 energy.   :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 09, 2009, 10:34:21 AM
We already need more residences. We get a LOT of PUG invites, some experienced that I hate to reject. But we have enough people to warrant one more expansion.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 09, 2009, 10:35:35 AM
Oof, this quest wants me to travel to the east side of the world, then the west. On the plus side, I earn 2 levels worth of experience.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 09, 2009, 11:44:52 AM
I just got my third note piece.   And a little while ago I got a grey slouch hat, which is +8 to traps or something.  :drill:  Trading rules.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 09, 2009, 02:41:53 PM
I have done 16 hours of trading so far with nothing more than a few bolts of cloth to show for it. I did pick up a +11 shooting and +3 appearance neck while breaking in horses though. Shame I'm currently useless at combat and invested in melee.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 09, 2009, 02:43:42 PM
Haha, 12 hours, 42 minutes to cross the world. That's at nearly double speed FYI.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Chinchilla on April 09, 2009, 03:30:37 PM
Sorry about missing your invite.  I didn't see it in the spam of reports about all the jobs I'm doing.  You can invite me again whenever you want.

StDrahcir is the name.  I'll keep and eye out for it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 09, 2009, 03:33:04 PM
Chincilla, why do you have a resume of MMOG characters in your sig? Have you forgotten where you are?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 09, 2009, 03:45:22 PM
So are we still getting attacked? My 48 hours of immunity is up tomorrow morning and I'm wondering if I should expect to get knocked out again.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 09, 2009, 03:50:24 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we're still being bombarded.  If we're not going to negotiate some sort of truce I'm tempted to buy a shiny new shiv and start cutting up some of their workers.  As an adventurer I can live in their hotel for free and cause them a lot of grief.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 09, 2009, 03:55:31 PM
You know pretty much every single large town in our area is part of that alliance. Provoking them is in my opinion an incredibly stupid move. Is this why F13 guilds in every single game except Eve fail miserably?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 09, 2009, 03:57:45 PM
 :awesome_for_real:

Yeah, I'd rather not be getting mugged every time I step outside too.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 09, 2009, 03:59:08 PM
You know pretty much every single large town in our area is part of that alliance. Provoking them is in my opinion an incredibly stupid move. Is this why F13 guilds in every single game except Eve fail miserably?

I donno, maybe this is *why* EVE has worked out so well. Those other games don't allow you to do this as much.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: tazelbain on April 09, 2009, 03:59:30 PM
> Is this why F13 guilds in every single game except Eve fail miserably?
No.  Apathy is.  But don't let that stop you from being bitchy.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 09, 2009, 04:05:04 PM
Sorry to seem bitchy. Maybe someone could explain to me the clever plan behind our apparent unwillingness to engage in the diplomacy that every single other major town within walking distance seems to be involved in.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 09, 2009, 04:11:31 PM
We're not pussies.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 09, 2009, 04:12:22 PM
I'm talking to them. But if people don't respect certain ground rules (don't attack builders), we're gonna be in trouble.

We managed to land in a county with few people settling down and no major competition in our borders. If we don't fuck this up we'll own this area.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 09, 2009, 04:12:56 PM
We're not pussies.

But we ARE chihuahuas vs. their army of pitbulls.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 09, 2009, 04:17:33 PM
I spend all my time jobbing/questing, so I have no problems agreeing not to attack workers or whatever.  Then again, I don't suffer all that much from being attacked since I never go seeking out duels, so eh.  It seems like as dumb as the PvP mechanics are, unless you're a PvPer yourself it's pretty easy to limit the harm that can be inflicted on you.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 09, 2009, 04:19:52 PM
Copper people are going to lay off our workers and adventurers (me in particular, once I pointed out that, no, I wasn't a "Hybrid Adventurer"), but duelers / soldiers, in their words, "not so much."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 09, 2009, 04:33:24 PM
You might wanna tell them that schild is in fact a "Hybrid Worker".   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 09, 2009, 04:40:35 PM
Is a hybrid adventurer one who has a better weapon than your soldiers? Because I'm aspiring towards that.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 09, 2009, 04:54:52 PM
Is a hybrid adventurer one who has a better weapon than your soldiers? Because I'm aspiring towards that.
I put in enough money for another hour of construction time on the gunsmith.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 09, 2009, 05:29:36 PM
Lorekeep, does this mean their adventurers and workers are off limits now or just builders?  Should we focus hostility in our own area?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 09, 2009, 07:59:22 PM
Lay off their workers. If you see an Adventurer equipped for dueling, go at em.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 10, 2009, 12:15:10 PM
Cody McGyver was at town as I set off for work. Benedict Arnold just showed up. Both are Copper Springs, so I imagine a third will appear in a few minutes and beatings will follow.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 10, 2009, 12:27:36 PM
This will be a test of the agreement then.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 10, 2009, 12:36:01 PM
Cody appears to have left. I sold some junk, bought one of the primo daggers, changed my dodge setup around. Stuck my remaining money in the town coffers because it was almost empty.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 10, 2009, 03:02:50 PM
The agreement changed. Now they want an apology for attacking their builders. They sent this AFTER Cody came down and attacked me 3 times. But I kinda had to laugh.

(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/Lorekeep/IShotTheSheriff01.jpg)

I Shot The Sheriff!  :awesome_for_real:

Anyway, these guys are whipping their dicks out and rubbing it in our faces, thinking we're the bitch.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 10, 2009, 03:35:35 PM
We are until gunsmith 5 for sure.  I'm getting dueled every 30 minutes.  Sad.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 10, 2009, 03:45:03 PM
So, are these fuckbags fair game now? I wanna stab something.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 10, 2009, 03:47:19 PM
Wait, they make a deal with us, proceed to violate it in less than a day and then expect US to renegotiate as the guilty party?  Yeah, I need to respec and camp their builders.  Hmm, that is going to cost big money.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 10, 2009, 03:58:02 PM
Are they violating the deal? Are our builders being attacked? Nobody's attacked me today so far.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 10, 2009, 03:58:55 PM
Negotiations So Far over the last week:

High Lander: Your town believe in dueling builders? Should our soldiers pay your's a visit? Because we won't hesitate. Last time a town attacked our builders, we got togather all our allies and KOed the entire town (Rock Ridge).

Lorekeep: Your duelers have already been visiting our town on a routine basis without provocation. One of our members did attack your builders (something I don't condone because you guys clearly have bigger dicks than we do), but diplomacy doesn't seem to be in your best interest anyway. Domination is.

High Lander: Ha! We do not need provocation. A dueler becomes a dueler because they like to duel. However, we only attack duelers. And if we have attacked a builder(unless it was Builder vs Builder) please tell me. I will dismiss that player.

Lorekeep: Dueler = non-Builder, or Dueler = Dueler / Soldier? I sure as hell ain't a dueler and you've been hitting me a lot.

High Lander: That's because you attacked our builders. We retaliated. I told you the last time our builders we were attacked, we knocked out an entire town. We may just continue hitting you forever...I'm not sure. It depends on when we get a sincere apology.

High Lander: And ny the way:

Duler=Dueler/Soldier/Hybrid Adventurer

Non-Dueler=Builder/Pure Adventurer (But like shooting or Traps don't count, aim and shooting...or like reflex. You know.)

Lorekeep: Well I'm a Pure Adventurer, for now. Only reason I've been considering raising those skills is because you guys have been farming the shit out of me and my people. Maybe because I'm town Leader and you're trying to send a message? I don't know.

I've managed to reign in my guys a bit by pointing out that getting in a pissing match with a World 1 meta-guild PvPing focused town is a poor idea, but I need your boys to lay off a bit too. Duelers / Soldiers, fine by me. But I'm not really sure how you can tell if someone is a Hybrid or Pure Adventurer. I sure as hell ain't Hybrid right now.

High Lander: Yep. Town leader gets the worst. Agreed. However, as a builder myself, I may continue to get on your pure builders every now and then ;)

Lorekeep: Actually our builder schild is the main instigator it seems and also a pure builder. Sooooo ...

Builders got strength, yo.

High Lander: I've beaten schild twice now.

Lorekeep: You need to pull Cody McGyver back. He's beating up our workers incessantly.

High Lander: I will. He's our Sheriff, by the way. So he's dueling the most. pretty much everybody. We'll pull back on Adventurers and Builders, I promise to make that happen. Duelers and soldiers not so much.

Lorekeep: That's fine, if I was a soldier / dueler I wouldn't be bitching. Thanks.

High Lander: Apologize to Cody. Then maybe we'll stop. he wants an apology for attacking our builders.

Lorekeep: Who did the attacking?

(At this point Cody comes in and attacks me 3 times)

High Lander: Listen, Sheriff Cody is headed back down your way. Unless you want half the town's builders attacked, I suggest you simply write an apology to him saying you're sorry for attacking our builders.

Lorekeep: *Who did the attacking?* I didn't attack your builders, so why should I be sorry? Your boy Cody was already on his way down to try and kill me multiple times by the time you sent this message instead of waiting for negotiations to cease, so I think an apology ain't gonna do much if he can't keep his gun in his holster while talks are going on. That's like saying "We'll make peace, but while we're doing that, we're gonna make war."

Besides, your wording changed. You'll *maybe* stop. I think you know you have no reason to, so despite these talks and an agreement being reached to focus on Duelers / Soldiers, you couldn't rein your Sheriff in, which didn't really matter because you'll know there'll be no retaliation. I can police my guys by kicking them out. I don't think you'd do the same for an upstart in your group.

Though I did beat Cody in one duel, which was pretty hilarious all things considered.

BTW, High Lander's Logic? It is  :uhrr:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 10, 2009, 03:59:36 PM
Wait, they make a deal with us, proceed to violate it in less than a day and then expect US to renegotiate as the guilty party?  Yeah, I need to respec and camp their builders.  Hmm, that is going to cost big money.
Yeah, I wish I had not put so much skills in trapping a a moneymaker, respeccing is going to be costly.

Well. One guy just knocked me out in one round (I was at 4/5 of my health from work) with a precise shotgun. DO WANT!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 10, 2009, 04:00:04 PM
They're attacking me. That's proof enough. I've already told them I ain't a Hybrid Adventurer.

God I wish we were a 300 people Meta Guild so we could just roll these fucks.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 10, 2009, 04:03:58 PM
I like this bit from their town motto:

"but we will NEVER attack builders unless you attack ours, we will only attack yours until all our money is recovered and we have gained as many exp points off you as you have off us"

I think they've done that and then some. These guys are like "We're going to rape your face but we'll be nice about it!" or some stupid logical fallacy shit.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 10, 2009, 04:05:22 PM
Could you ask them if we should just go ahead and start molesting their builders for real, since it seems like they're bent on molesting us either way?  I've been curious to see how much ruckus I can raise with their non-combat types, since it seems like the whole system is pretty ripe for abuse, but will only do so if it's not going to make things any worse for us.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 10, 2009, 04:06:03 PM
I need to get me that sharp stabbing knife. For reals. Not depositing any money for a while, sorry guys. Heh.

Edit: Hm, I have a couple thou in items on me. That'll work. IT'S ON.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 10, 2009, 04:06:14 PM
Their town has an abnormally high number of top rated products per tier.  I wonder if their is a way to influence what you get.  I have a hard time believing it is 'random'.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: tazelbain on April 10, 2009, 04:09:10 PM
Sounds very typical.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 10, 2009, 04:10:30 PM
Ugh.  It was me who attacked their dick face builder.  I did it because they were on the KOS list.  I have no qualms.  If it will help, just kick me out of the guild, as it seems I'm target number one anyway.  It will give me some time to farm up some cash for a better gun.  Then when they have a couple days to check our roster to see that you did indeed boot me out, we can go get them.  If it helps, I can throw a tantrum when they undoubtedly rub it in my face.  All this of course, unless they are reading this right now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 10, 2009, 04:11:42 PM
I need to get me that sharp stabbing knife. For reals. Not depositing any money for a while, sorry guys. Heh.

Edit: Hm, I have a couple thou in items on me. That'll work. IT'S ON.
Don't forget to put some time in constructing the gunsmith once you got yourself knocked out.

Oh.

And happy hunting.  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 10, 2009, 04:12:38 PM
All this of course, unless they are reading this right now.
*waves at the audience*

*google us* is in our town description, isn't it ?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 10, 2009, 04:36:32 PM
They're attacking me. That's proof enough. I've already told them I ain't a Hybrid Adventurer.

They're attacking me too, despite having beaten me soundly before. Clearly they are your usual PvP turds who go after easy prey and then cry foul when others do the same to them. I say we burn their workers. Ask Endie if any of GoonFleet wants in and lets see if they feel the same way when facing an order of magnitude more people.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 10, 2009, 04:41:31 PM
Ask Endie if any of GoonFleet wants in and lets see if they feel the same way when facing an order of magnitude more people.
I'd pay to see that. Well, actually I am already doing just that.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 10, 2009, 04:45:48 PM
Oh now that would be good if they manage to bring the Goons down on themselves.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 10, 2009, 04:46:51 PM
They're attacking me too, despite having beaten me soundly before. Clearly they are your usual PvP turds who go after easy prey and then cry foul when others do the same to them. I say we burn their workers. ..

Seems like it - I haven't gotten dueled once, yet.

As soon as we hit Gunsmith 5 I'll go and rape everyone in their town(s) unless someone says no workers again.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 10, 2009, 05:07:44 PM
High Lander:

Know what? If you're gonna be an @$$ hole about it, then maybe we'll just keep knocking you guys out. Heh? I don't give a rat's @$$ who did the attacking. I don't care if we're hypocrits. I know this:

I was attacked by a soldier. I am a builder. I asked sheriff Cody to get togather The Posse and go down there and teach you guys a lesson. Cody loves to duel. Cody said "Ok." Cody's pissed because you're town attacked our builders.

Now, all he asks is you politely apologize. If you can't to that, it's not our problem. We're winning this war.

--

Introduce the Goons. Show them the power of a fully operational Battle Station. I'll invite any and all Goons into the town and we can even get that second town of ours rolling.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 10, 2009, 05:11:59 PM
That's it. When I'm done with corn, it's fucking battle royale time.

My building is only at 93% anyway. Welcome to hybrid land, fuckers.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 10, 2009, 05:14:43 PM
Yeah, I'm ready to go apeshit on these bitches. The question is how to properly craft a response.

I was thinking: "Fofofo!" But I want to make sure I have Goon backing before I do anything.

Edit: I'm not going to respond for right now. I told their two guys to hold off so I think maybe 8 more hours. I've got 0 health left and I want to get this extra energy out of the way.

Their chatter smacks of retard tweeners with no concept of who they are fucking with.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 10, 2009, 05:20:27 PM
Well, somebody PM the EVE folks and ask them to put out the invitation. :)

Meanwhile, I'll start the point-a-day cheapo stat migration process. First one is easy - I have one point in shooting from before I went melee. I have the good dagger, I just need to hit more and be hit less, so its all about the aim & dodge now. Not that it matters too much at first - once we're ready I'm going to start with their builders.  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 10, 2009, 05:29:10 PM
So should I go start brawling with them tomorrow when my 48-hour protection is up, or are we going to lay low until we can bring a hundred goons down on them?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 10, 2009, 05:30:25 PM
God I want to see a Goonswarm bee with a cowboy hat.

Let's hold off for now. Gunsmith 5 might bring bountiful shit.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 10, 2009, 06:25:16 PM
Here's what (51) Bat Country - 23/25 is up against:

(19) Copper Creek - 29/30
(34) Copper Springs - 34/35
(362) Copper Cove - 10/10

their stated allies:

(4) Eagles Point - 37/45
(9) Eagles Drift - 29/35
(13) Eagles Nest - 32/40
(32) Eagles Crest - 21/30
(7) Monmouth - 33/40
(31) The Beastro - 21/25
(16) The Legion - 34/35
(215) Jasper Junction - 10/10

allies of allies:

(167) Eagles Canyon (sister town of Eagles Nest, Eagles Crest, Eagles Point, Eagles Drift) - 2/20
(101) Sanctuary (sister town of Monmouth) - 13/20
(14) Crow Town (ally of Monmouth) - 29/35
(52) Waynes World (ally of Monmouth) - 19/35
(20) Toxicity (ally of Monmouth) - 27/30
(106) Santa Rio (ally of Monmouth) - 15/20
(18) City Of Dead Pints (ally of Monmouth) - 29/35
(207) Wild Wild West (ally of Monmouth) - 9/10
(112) Nowhere (ally of Monmouth) - 14/15
(71) Vasilkov (ally of The Beastro) - 9/10
(33) Samson (ally of The Legion) - 26/30

other:

(143) Toxicity II (sister town of Toxicity) - 10/15

Format: (town rank) Town name - number of members / maximum members


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Polysorbate80 on April 10, 2009, 06:36:35 PM
Power of Cheese's mortician is still 11 points from completion, but should be done tomorrow late sometime.  Anyone who wants "plausible deniability" is free to shift over and crack heads all y'all want.  I don't give a shit about being attacked. 

You'll have to use Bat to sleep and shop though, Cheese has nuthin'.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 10, 2009, 06:39:05 PM
Fuck.  The Eagles towns have some nice shit.  We're up for a helluva ride.  

Oh, and lol @ browser game internet wars.  

Someone get Signe onboard.  We need all the people we can get.  

I'm going to start diversifying points from here on out.  Can't be just a trapper anymore.  


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 10, 2009, 07:11:18 PM
Now this... this'll be a game.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 10, 2009, 07:23:41 PM
Allies of allies is irrelevant. Well actually its a good thing since it gives a broader scope of people who hate someone they are allied with. Talking to those douches and letting them shit on us stupid. Copper creek/Beastro/The legion are their allies. The rest of the towns are just people they have NAP's with. Need to use the forums to co-ordinate attacks on specific people or we wont even dent them. Talk to the eagles nest and talk about them attacking our builders same with Britiania. Approach every decent sized town in our area seeking allies.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 10, 2009, 07:25:20 PM
Shunned is me.  I think I'm fishing or chasing birds or something.  I am not surprised that you've all managed to piss off most of the server.  Good job!  (http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/frech/r020.gif)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: FatuousTwat on April 10, 2009, 07:48:14 PM
I got kicked from the town... Fuck y'all I don't need you! I'll start my own town, with blackjack, and hookers. In fact, forget the town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 10, 2009, 07:50:24 PM
I got kicked from the town... Fuck y'all I don't need you! I'll start my own town, with blackjack, and hookers. In fact, forget the town.

huh?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 10, 2009, 07:52:37 PM
The only reason they want to support "don't attack workers" is so that nothing interrupts building their tech advantage. The game is going to turn into a bloodbath as soon as that's finished.

Any game that gives the best XP rewards from PvP and allows ganking (attacker controls the battle and can imbalance the fight in his favor) is going to see a lot of people getting farmed. The advantage is if you win some / all of the duels your getting some decent XP yourself and with a good bank / hotel you can recover relatively painlessly.

I'd say kill as you want, but only join a town if you want to be duelled (since you will be) and are competitive (so you can hurt the attackers, make some xp).

That said, would be happy with an invite when you have space. Also if you reckon you might have > 50 people should probably seize another town space... the ones around us are being bought up pretty fast.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: FatuousTwat on April 10, 2009, 08:07:38 PM
I got kicked from the town... Fuck y'all I don't need you! I'll start my own town, with blackjack, and hookers. In fact, forget the town.
huh?
"You are not a member of a town. You can join an existing town or found a new town on your own."
"You are not a member of this town! You cannot deposit money money in any bank other than in your own town."

etc.

(I'm below level 10)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 10, 2009, 08:14:02 PM
I think he just kicked a few people out so he could increase the cash flow with all the different heads popping up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 10, 2009, 08:15:10 PM
Also, if we're going to War, it's probably best to have the highest level people in the guild.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 10, 2009, 08:19:02 PM
Poor fella.

(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/42220/thewest/jones.png)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 10, 2009, 08:26:39 PM
Hi there,

I was just informed by one of our workers that a soldier from your town just dueled him. As you can see on our towns front page, we don't believe in hitting workers and don't do it ourselves...unless ours are attacked.
If you would like to talk to him and get him to apologize to our worker, we can settle this easily. If not, we can send our top duelers and soldiers down and we can settle it not so easily. I will leave it up to you, please let me know how you would like to handle it.

Thank you,
Cody


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Cody, on Monday, while I was out of town. I couldn't respond since I was... OUT OF TOWN. So he thinks I'm ignoring him and launches his attack.
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Most recent conversation:

Lorekeep: What, the floggings will continue until negotiations are finished? I'm talking to your leader. Maybe you should hold off with the bullets so that his words have some semblance of weight instead of seeming like empty promises.

BTW, pretty funny you lost a duel against me who isn't a "Hybrid Adventurer" as you boys put it. Were you trying to head shot me 8 times? Oops!

Cody: WOW! you DO know how to type!!! I wrote you a telegram a long time ago trying to settle this before it came to this...you should have answered. And yes, the floggings will continue. I may have lost....and that happens. I dont care. Sorry for your sad town member.

why would you put up with a town member like him!?!?!?! I wouldn't

Lorekeep: Cause he made a fucking mistake that has been dealt with. Now we're dealing with you.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 10, 2009, 08:28:20 PM
I don't even know how to follow that conversation.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 10, 2009, 08:32:47 PM
Its them shitting in Lorekeeps mouth for laughs. These guys have been attacking us for weeks. They have been on the KOS list for weeks. They have attacked our workers repeatedly. Even attempting to speak to them is degrading and futile. Unless you are willing to kick whoever pissed them off to appease these fucks its not going to stop. They are in active conflicts with multiple decent sized towns. We need friends!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 10, 2009, 08:34:49 PM
I got kicked from the town... Fuck y'all I don't need you! I'll start my own town, with blackjack, and hookers. In fact, forget the town.
huh?
"You are not a member of a town. You can join an existing town or found a new town on your own."
"You are not a member of this town! You cannot deposit money money in any bank other than in your own town."

etc.

(I'm below level 10)

I posted earlier in the thread that I was kicking the lowest members of our town to get some other people in. You were Lv. 2 and had no cash at the time. Focus on building yourself up and if you need back in town for services I can get ya back in.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 10, 2009, 08:42:46 PM
I am happy to offer my diplomacy services if wanted.  I have some experience ;)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 10, 2009, 08:48:04 PM
I am happy to offer my diplomacy services if wanted.  I have some experience ;)

Haha that's funny.

Btw, thanks to all you builders for spending all those hours building crap. Much appreciated. :Love_Letters:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: FatuousTwat on April 10, 2009, 08:48:18 PM
I got kicked from the town... Fuck y'all I don't need you! I'll start my own town, with blackjack, and hookers. In fact, forget the town.
huh?
"You are not a member of a town. You can join an existing town or found a new town on your own."
"You are not a member of this town! You cannot deposit money money in any bank other than in your own town."

etc.

(I'm below level 10)

I posted earlier in the thread that I was kicking the lowest members of our town to get some other people in. You were Lv. 2 and had no cash at the time. Focus on building yourself up and if you need back in town for services I can get ya back in.

Nod, that is why I mentioned that I was below level 10. It's no big deal, I was just screwing around :).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: tazelbain on April 10, 2009, 08:53:27 PM
I am happy to offer my diplomacy services if wanted.  I have some experience ;)
"What makes a good man go neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 10, 2009, 09:02:47 PM
zabar dueled me a few hours ago while I was building.  Their duelers have been attacking me nonstop.

Burn them down.  Kill all their builders.  Over and over and over again.

I'm dumping all my points into construction, and constructing when I'm at 85% or better.  42 points in construction so far.

How do you respec?  What's the last quest for the respec thing?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 10, 2009, 09:15:52 PM
Im am going to take the initiate in diplomacy. I hope nobody minds.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 10, 2009, 09:17:18 PM
By all means, go on a stabbing spree. Once I get 60 bucks, it's stab city.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 10, 2009, 09:26:48 PM
How do you respec?  What's the last quest for the respec thing?

http://www.weststats.com/Questgroup/?group=21

Once you've done that quest up to the third bit, the not-obvious UI element for the panel to actually do it is a circle with a picture of an Indian which appears on the border of the larger circle above the attributes in the skills panel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 10, 2009, 09:43:33 PM
Coordinate your attacks. Punch them in the dick at the same time.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 10, 2009, 10:41:24 PM
How do you respec?  What's the last quest for the respec thing?

http://www.weststats.com/Questgroup/?group=21

Once you've done that quest up to the third bit, the not-obvious UI element for the panel to actually do it is a circle with a picture of an Indian which appears on the border of the larger circle above the attributes in the skills panel.

Thank you.  Not obvious is right.  I finished the quests awhile back but did not realize I could respec yet.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Senses on April 10, 2009, 10:43:38 PM
So how does one find Bat Country?  The map is huge.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 10, 2009, 10:44:59 PM
Open the Rankings page and do a town look up of Bat Country. That will let you zoom right into it on the map.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Senses on April 10, 2009, 11:04:41 PM
Okay thanks found it


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 11, 2009, 01:46:42 AM
If we're proceeding to burn their workers and rape their fields, I propose that we focus our efforts on their smallest town (the one they just started), on the theory that this will yield greatest lulz.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 11, 2009, 02:21:50 AM
I had 4 separate guys kill me within the span of an hour. Oi. They don't give a fuck about anything. 48 hours of protection, at least.

Edit: Good job Gry. I'm getting some initial responses and letting them know our situation.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 11, 2009, 02:34:26 AM
If we're proceeding to burn their workers and rape their fields, I propose that we focus our efforts on their smallest town (the one they just started), on the theory that this will yield greatest lulz.

Remember, you can't attack people too far below you.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 11, 2009, 02:36:15 AM
What level are the guys attacking everyone? Are they intentionally avoiding duelers? Ive been attacked 3 times in total.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 11, 2009, 03:31:08 AM
I've been attacked five times in total, twice today. If they're only getting 3-7xp from it and it costs 12 action, I'm okay with being incapped by them so long as long I can burn my action down under 50 by the time of the kill. At that point its a net loss for them.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 11, 2009, 04:48:14 AM
5%/25 construction points to go on that gunsmith !!! :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 11, 2009, 07:52:07 AM
Odd that these guys have not attacked me in days....

There are theories floating around concerning shop item quality.  Have people tried praying before final construction and/or making sure you have max motivation?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 11, 2009, 08:33:49 AM
I still haven't been attacked either. I can't imagine why not since they seem to be going after builders again.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 11, 2009, 08:35:55 AM
Odd that these guys have not attacked me in days....

There are theories floating around concerning shop item quality.  Have people tried praying before final construction and/or making sure you have max motivation?

I pray every day after I sleep and before I build.  I don't usually get to maximum motivation though - somewhere between 85% and max.

Right now it's at 91%.  There is enough money to finish the gunsmith.  If people want me to wait until I hit 100% motivation to build, I can, but it'll be the end of the day rather than when I'm done sleeping (2 hours).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 11, 2009, 09:02:36 AM
I got me some Muzzle-Loader Motherfuckers :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 11, 2009, 09:23:04 AM
I got me some Muzzle-Loader Motherfuckers :grin:
Yippy yi yo ki yay!  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 11, 2009, 10:14:22 AM
Sweet now I just need some money!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 11, 2009, 11:57:05 AM
Goddammit.  Finally the gun. 

But they knocked me out last night, because I stupidly risked not resting.  I figured I'd just get up early and run to the hotel.  Sooooo, the power supply on my router takes a shit, and now I can't duel for 48 hours.

Balls.

Also.

I made a payback thread in the in-game forums to help us focus attacking.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 11, 2009, 02:25:22 PM
I just KO'd zabar. He attacked me again today. I guess he bit off one too many muggings and I did enough damage to finish him off. 108xp.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Senses on April 11, 2009, 02:42:31 PM
How do i go about joining Bat Country.  Took me 3 hours just to walk there!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 11, 2009, 02:49:48 PM
Send a telegram to Lorekeep in-game telling him who you are here on F13. If you're too low level you may have to wait a while though. We've only got 25 free slots and they're being taken up by higher level guys who can contribute more money to the building fund. Even if you're low level we can still let you in long enough for you to buy cheaper stuff at the town stores.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 11, 2009, 02:59:50 PM
Ok so now that I know how to respec, should I bother?  I was going to throw all my points into construction.  I'm at 49 construction right now.  Is it worth it to respec?  At $50 for the first point, $60 the second, and so on.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 11, 2009, 03:10:18 PM
If you want to move a lot of points, it gets very expensive very fast. If you want to migrate points slowly, it isn't so bad because the cost goes back down over time. I undid one point yesterday and it became $60. I'll see how long it takes to go back to $50.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 11, 2009, 03:25:51 PM
I am guessing respec does not hurt.  Identify jobs you want to do and move points towards those (and of course pvp if you are inclined).  Item bonuses should help cover the gaps.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 11, 2009, 04:30:40 PM
If we're killing their top brass then head to their place and show them you don't fuck with us.

"Now I have a Muzzle Loader. Ho Ho Ho."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 11, 2009, 04:37:29 PM
Anyone know how spam duel someone?  I remember getting attacked by a guy 3 time in a row but the game doesn't let me attack the same opponent for 24h.
Unless I KOed him with my 120 dmg?  :grin:  The battle report did not mention any KO.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 11, 2009, 05:00:51 PM
I just got an Easter quest.

I love holiday quests!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 11, 2009, 06:38:28 PM
Unless I KOed him with my 120 dmg?  :grin:  The battle report did not mention any KO.

If you KO somebody it will say "Playername passes out." as the first sentence at the bottom of the duel page right before it tells you how much XP you got.

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zabar passes out. Righ wins the duel and gains 108 experience points. zabar did not carry any cash and Righ walks away without taking any money.

You should be able to duel the same person once per hour. Of course, if you gain a (dueling) level while dueling and cannot get XP off the victim any more, you can no longer duel them. The XP calculation is as follows:

Experience points = (7 * dueling level of the loser) - (5 * Dueling level of the winner) + 5

Oh, the other thing is that if the guy you are dueling sees that he's been mugged, he may pop into the local hotel to sleep off the damage. You can't duel people who are asleep in a hotel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 11, 2009, 08:14:27 PM
Check the Saloon.  There's an Easter quest, not sure what it rewards yet. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 11, 2009, 08:22:34 PM
I just did it.  +1 to hiding, and an easter egg that sells for $10.  Not bad for 30 minutes chasing birds.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 11, 2009, 08:24:48 PM
I imagine there'll be more spots once you guys are finished climbing up the tech tree and have spare capacity for residences?

Got level 10 and had to decide between keeping the greenhorn massive movement bonus or getting access to another questline and getting rid of the goofy picture. I like quests, so Kageru the Mercenary is now meandering her way across the prairie.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 11, 2009, 08:25:07 PM
The town - Kannons Klaim (Grid 4-2) Is a bat country ally. Do not hunt.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 12, 2009, 01:53:27 AM
PROTIP:  Queue sleep twice overnight to avoid waking up dead.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 12, 2009, 02:04:56 AM
How can you see what outsiders are in our town?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 12, 2009, 03:55:28 AM
How can you see what character class a person is?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 12, 2009, 04:10:25 AM
The image and gear they are wearing. Also this site is pretty useful http://www.weststats.com/ (http://www.weststats.com/) You can insert your stats and inventory to chart our your characters progress with quests and available jobs.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 12, 2009, 04:12:39 AM
Ah ok. I'd hoped for something more straight forward than that but oh well.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 12, 2009, 04:17:22 AM
Class plays such a small role in what the character actually does that their gear and dueling level is a far better indicator. Lots of "class restricted" items to get an idea. The screwdriver for workers etc (later they get an awesome wrench!). Workers almost always have a little note saying it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 12, 2009, 04:56:38 AM
That's true most of the real pro dueler types have a nice medallion they wear around their neck too thats pretty much a give away.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 12, 2009, 06:17:05 AM
I just did it.  +1 to hiding, and an easter egg that sells for $10.  Not bad for 30 minutes chasing birds.

You can even respec the +1 to hiding  :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 12, 2009, 12:13:38 PM
Wow! Level 4 bank is huge. 1800 dollars for us worker types. Let's get the tailor and general store up a couple of levels too. They've got some good stuff.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 12, 2009, 01:38:58 PM
As a quick note, later on tonight I'll be leaving town to start my adventurer ride to Mecca in the West. Would suck to get KO'd on the way there.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 12, 2009, 02:02:20 PM
I just did it.  +1 to hiding, and an easter egg that sells for $10.  Not bad for 30 minutes chasing birds.

You can even respec the +1 to hiding  :drill:

Ah, nice. Free skill points. :)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 12, 2009, 02:05:41 PM
High Lander     Today at 8:58 PM
Ok, our builders are still being attacked, so we're gonna keep attacking everyone over your way. When you've had enough, tell me.

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War's on. Rock Creek isn't going to help us due to their cease fire.

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My response:

"You haven't given us a good enough reason to stop. But, by your actions and words, you've given us a good reason to keep going.

Your diplomacy skills suck. But that's probably because you put all your skill points into war (as expected).

By the way, this won't be over until YOU cry bitch. None of us give enough of a shit to appease punks like you who probably hasn't moved out of their mom's basement and whose only girlfriend is his right hand that he puts lipstick and a wig on in the evenings.

In other words... game on, asshole!"


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 12, 2009, 02:11:53 PM
Do these people not talk to each other? 

They make a deal, break a deal, attack us and then complain when we attack them back saying 'it's on!'

wtf?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 12, 2009, 02:27:11 PM
We're going to need that HOtel up for fast recoveries since I imagine things are about to get a lot worst.

Also! We have 3 open slots. Did anyone want in?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 12, 2009, 02:37:58 PM
Lorekeep I'm having a lot of trouble understanding who is saying what when you post those diplomatic messages. Any chance of making the formatting more clear?

Edit: Oh that's better. Thanks!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 12, 2009, 04:42:15 PM
Pfft, nevermind on leaving town. Got Bob Peaced so I have 48 hours to do the walkin.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 12, 2009, 05:02:43 PM
Killing spree (well, no knockouts so far...)

Do our people know that there is a second forum in our town forum ?

Is anyone helping me at the moment ?

Brb. Duel.

edit: Sleeping in their guest room now, thankfully they provided me with enough money to spend it there.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Phildo on April 12, 2009, 05:58:33 PM
Alright, I'm in on this.  How can I help?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 12, 2009, 06:41:29 PM
Alright, I'm in on this.  How can I help?
Phildo!  :awesome_for_real:

 :heart:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 12, 2009, 07:25:59 PM
WhiteBrit    Today at 1:29 AM
Do you know your members have launched an attack on our builders?

Lorekeep    Today at 1:32 AM
Haven't been really following the politics of the situation, have you?

WhiteBrit    Today at 2:30 AM
Well I just got attacked by one of your duelers so I didn't have a choice lol

I do not believe in attacking builders unless ours are attacked first, I propose a builder NAP, where we can only attack each others dueler, soldiers and adventuers...

That way we can keep it friendly, if our builders are continually attacked we will have no choice but to involve our many alliances including many of the top towns...I do not want to do this...

What do you think?

Lorekeep     Today at 2:49 AM
I think you haven't been paying attention to who has been speaking for your alliance, what they've said and done, and the current state of affairs. You're in no position to propose anything.

But please, continue to whip your giant dicks out. It's amusing me how you all walk and talk the same.

WhiteBrit     Today at 3:05 AM
Cody has been speaking on my behalf.

I am glad you find that amusing, what a simple mind you must have.

I was trying to sort this out in a friendly way but if you do not wish to do that, our alliances will be called in to help us knock you all out very swiftly so we can get back to business.

I do not want it to be like this so if there is any chance of sorting it another way I am happy to talk, if not I am sorry we have no other way...

Lorekeep -
You never had an interest in resolving this in a friendly way from the very beginning when you attacked us first.

Your words are empty and your communication networks are a mess. Am I going to get a message next week from some other douche who is surprised they are being attacked and claims to have any authority to make decisions for the whole?

While we're all on the same page about what huge assholes you guys are, it seems like everyone is doing their own thing on your side. If you're going to call in the hand of god that you propose to wield, then do it. I'm tired of talking to idiots who think they lead whatever the fuck it is you claim to have.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 12, 2009, 08:25:56 PM
Total War ?  :ye_gods:


 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hindenburg on April 12, 2009, 08:28:20 PM
Waaagh.


This is even better than Eve.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 12, 2009, 08:29:09 PM
This is even better than Eve.  :awesome_for_real:
Speaking of which, someone give Phildo some advice. Is he playing already ?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 12, 2009, 08:50:31 PM
Web game drama is so awesome.

WhiteBrit     Today at 3:34 AM
I am very much intrigued by you. You talk with so much authoirty, you say what you say and believe you are right. You could claim sand contains so silicon and make others believe you, I admire it.

You have earned my respect, I will not contact you futher if that is what you wish, I will leave all future correspondents between you and Cody.

Honestly has been nice talking with you.

Adam.

Ps. I do not agree that my words are empty, I only say things for a reason, if I have nothing to say I keep my mouth shut.

----

And now this:

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High Lander     Today at 4:06 AM
What would you say to our towns comeing to a truths on builders and adventurers? It brings in unneccessary people. A defenceless person shouldn't be attacked. If you'll agree to this, just write Cody telling him that you want a truths against builders and adventurers. Be sure to tell him I've authorized it.

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Do I detect... weakness and a called bluff?  :grin:

HAHAHA. WE want a truce?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: tazelbain on April 12, 2009, 08:57:57 PM
Fuck that, hold out for the truths.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 12, 2009, 09:01:01 PM
Heh. I leveled when I incapped on of their workers.

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High Lander passes out. Hlem wins the duel and gains 14 experience points.

Now I feel special.  :awesome_for_real:

I am at full health, thanks to leveling, but out of energy, going to sleep now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 12, 2009, 09:06:47 PM
I got knocked out today after being dueled by Shotgun John Collins, preach and then Shotgun John again.

Fortunately for us, I was down in motivation to build anyway, and almost out of energy.  So now I get 48 hours free right?

Wheeee.

I say burn them all down.  _Particularly_ their builders.

Incidently, I am not writing them any telegrams.  Leaving that up to Lorekeep.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 12, 2009, 09:18:09 PM
Yeah, prefer to handle all communications. If you are doing politics or speaking for us, you're doing it wrong. Have them come to me.

Also, let this be a lesson: Don't do things that'll start shit. I am having fun with the Coppers but I do want to leave a good impression for the rest of the game world.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 12, 2009, 09:57:12 PM
What has been interesting to me about the exchanges Copperwhatever has had with Lorekeep is that they keep insisting they aren't attacking builders.  I'm a builder, dumping all my points into construction aside from a few for quest purposes.  I haven't won a duel yet.  I have been attacked regularly, truce or no truce, understanding or war.  I can't tell when we supposedly have an understanding.

I don't really care.  Not carrying much cash on me, donating most of what I get to town, not cashing in items.  So I end up with a free 2day pass after getting knocked out.  Not a problem!

But it is rather hilarious to see their attempts at what they believe passes for diplomacy.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 12, 2009, 10:42:59 PM
Yeah, prefer to handle all communications. If you are doing politics or speaking for us, you're doing it wrong. Have them come to me.

Also, let this be a lesson: Don't do things that'll start shit. I am having fun with the Coppers but I do want to leave a good impression for the rest of the game world.

Not even close to the lesson I learned.   :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 12, 2009, 10:46:57 PM
Yeah, prefer to handle all communications. If you are doing politics or speaking for us, you're doing it wrong. Have them come to me.

Also, let this be a lesson: Don't do things that'll start shit. I am having fun with the Coppers but I do want to leave a good impression for the rest of the game world.

You cant really blame people for attacking them you put them on a KoS list weeks ago haha.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Phildo on April 12, 2009, 11:22:26 PM
Since there's a war on, I guess I'm going to be focusing on making a combat character.  Tell me what I need to do!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 12, 2009, 11:29:23 PM
Just furiously start doing the quests.  Putting points in certain skills opens up jobs.  If a quest asks you to do a job, just find it and see which skills are required to unlock it and work towards that.

If you want to focus on a pure fighting dude, then just look at the skills on your dueling window (Aim, Shoot, Dodge, etc) and start putting skill points in there.  However at least in the beginning you'll probably want to put points into other skills to be able to unlock jobs that quests require of you.  Questing is the best way to advance early on.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 12, 2009, 11:30:24 PM
Dont make a duelist! Adventurer (ability to sleep for free in hostile towns while still being able to generate income) and Soldier (use a weapon 3 levels above your level with defense bonus) are far better. If its a melee based char put your stat point in strength with the next priority being Aim. Alternate points into Dodge,Appearance. Make reflex a secondary priority. If its a ranged based character put stat point in dexterity with the same priorities as listed before. Toughness,reflex help as well but dodge and the others play a far larger role.

Personally the adventurer seems to be the most versatile. You can camp someones town forever with no money and basically become immune to retaliation. Also with a Str based adventurer a nice chunk of decent jobs becomes available rather easily.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 12, 2009, 11:32:06 PM
Yeah, prefer to handle all communications. If you are doing politics or speaking for us, you're doing it wrong. Have them come to me.

Also, let this be a lesson: Don't do things that'll start shit. I am having fun with the Coppers but I do want to leave a good impression for the rest of the game world.

You cant really blame people for attacking them you put them on a KoS list weeks ago haha.

Things that'll start shit mean attacking their builders, not just attacking them.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 12, 2009, 11:36:01 PM
Targets of opportunity in Copper Springs. acid87 400$,Bosskie 207$,Wade Garret 142$,Bullzai 265$. Go collect their cash!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 12, 2009, 11:59:30 PM
Maybe we should make a dummy character to infiltrate their ranks. :P


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 13, 2009, 01:05:52 AM

If you want to leave a good diplomatic impression might want to change the town message, something focusing on deserved vengeance might sound better to potential allies.

I think soldiers and duellists have different roles both of which are valuable. Soldiers are excellent in defence so can keep doing missions and earning money even when people are trying to lockdown the town, and are decent attackers. However if you want to take the fight to an enemy town and keep people KO'd then duellists can challenge more people and earn more money doing it.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 13, 2009, 07:53:53 AM
They are upset because this is slowing down progress.  As we guessed earlier, the race to the top is important.  I am convinced now that the way we operate is alien to this bunch.  Good times.


Phildo, another selling point for this game in case you did not pick it up earlier.  MEXICAN is a character class option.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 13, 2009, 08:43:15 AM
Got knocked out after one final attack on their highest level builder.

Looks like at least one of them is sitting in our town and refreshing the page to catch us coming out of the hotel.

I got knocked out 1 minute after I won the duel, so he queued his attack in the same minute I canceled my rest.

We got no chance against people like this, they take the game far more serious than we do.  :ye_gods:

Sorry. But that needed green.  :awesome_for_real:

edit: Online browser games are serious business:

Hlem:"That was one well timed attack :-) "
Geronimo Jones:"Its not over yet."
Hlem:"Oh ?"




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 13, 2009, 08:55:41 AM
Yeah, Geronimo Jones attacked me within seconds canceling sleeping for 10 hours or so to launch two duels.  He's literally sitting there refreshing.  How sad is that?

Anyway, I'm focusing my attacks today on LAZDAZ and micro1 if anyone would like to help me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 13, 2009, 09:03:17 AM
He just got me about half an hour ago too. It looks like he's going to be using up his daily attacks ineffectively on a bunch of different people.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 13, 2009, 09:09:58 AM
I am getting targeted, can someone knock out Geronimo Jones.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: rk47 on April 13, 2009, 09:24:47 AM
Hey i just started, here's hoping it's better than my brute.
So what class do you guys need most?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 13, 2009, 09:25:52 AM
There is a Raid planned. Look on the boards.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 13, 2009, 09:55:10 AM
Sadly I'm not going to be able to make the raid. I'm on a 48 hour cool-down following a KO at 6:45am server time. The fifth person to duel me yesterday finally KO'd me. They did have help from two horses that kicked me while I was breaking them in. Probably shouldn't have been doing such risky jobs while vulnerable. I was at 60 health and only 30 action, so I'm okay with taking 60 of their action and beating three of them in the process.

I suspect I'll time becoming vulnerable tomorrow night with being at one of their towns.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 13, 2009, 10:30:12 AM
My plan is the same as Righ's.  I figure I'll end my immunity while sleeping in their hotel, wake up, spend all my action points shooting builders, and then get KOed again so I can go back to work.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 13, 2009, 10:40:41 AM
I'm in the process of implementing that plan as we speak.  However I'm hoping with the addition of this fine firearm thanks to our builders, I can win enough money to use their money sleeping in their hotel - thus perpetuating my wanton violence for perpetuity.  We'll see how that goes.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 13, 2009, 10:43:54 AM
Since hotels are free for me anyway, I'm going to spend the money I get from them on random crap from their store, and resell it when I get home.  Not the most efficient way to move money, but that way they can't get it back by KOing me.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 13, 2009, 01:07:05 PM
Guys guys guys, I am getting really tired of getting k.o.ed everytime my timer is up...  :heartbreak:

See thread on the town forums...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 13, 2009, 01:20:31 PM
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/Lorekeep/CodyP0wned.jpg)

(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/Lorekeep/pic_1216273551_9.jpg)

Cody McGyver     Today at 6:41 PM
Very Good! you are finally learning how to shoot! Congrats!

Lorekeep     Today at 8:47 PM
fofofo.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 13, 2009, 01:24:18 PM
I lol'd.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 13, 2009, 01:38:14 PM
Cody McGyver     Today at 9:03 PM
??? I take it English isn't your first language?

 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 13, 2009, 02:28:31 PM
Tell him we're Somalian.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 13, 2009, 03:25:26 PM
Just realized my motivation bar to duel is down to 24%  :ye_gods:

Running the gauntlet back to our town to do some other jobs for a day or two.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 13, 2009, 03:27:27 PM
What does having a low motivation to duel do? Make you do less damage or just collect less experience and loot?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 13, 2009, 03:30:34 PM
They're assaulting me now. Hehe. Awesome. I'm not even worrying about it, I have to hit 23 first (to get the stabby knife). And I never carry money.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 13, 2009, 03:53:01 PM
What does having a low motivation to duel do? Make you do less damage or just collect less experience and loot?
I don't know for sure, but it feels like I'm hitting far less often and doing less damage.

Jumped twice already on the way home.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 13, 2009, 03:57:16 PM
I know the conflict is harder on workers but for me it's like a rain of free XP.  I don't have to attack them, they come to me.  My duel meter doesn't even go down.
:drill: :drill::drill:


(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2995/duel1.jpg) (http://www.freecodesource.com/image-hosting/view/img299/2995/duel1.jpg/)
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/235/duel2.jpg) (http://www.freecodesource.com/image-hosting/view/img259/235/duel2.jpg/)
(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7813/duel3.jpg) (http://www.freecodesource.com/image-hosting/view/img512/7813/duel3.jpg/)
(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9426/duel4.jpg) (http://www.freecodesource.com/image-hosting/view/img512/9426/duel4.jpg/)
(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3944/duel6.jpg) (http://www.freecodesource.com/image-hosting/view/img258/3944/duel6.jpg/)
(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/6870/duel7.jpg) (http://www.freecodesource.com/image-hosting/view/img258/6870/duel7.jpg/)


aegu still beat me though because he has better clothing.




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 13, 2009, 03:59:07 PM
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/235/duel2.jpg)

lol azzrape


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 13, 2009, 04:02:55 PM
I know the conflict is harder on workers

 :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 13, 2009, 04:04:06 PM
this game needs a chat room so we can coordinate better


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 13, 2009, 04:08:53 PM
Attacked twice more already.  Looks like in going to be getting a 48 hour siesta soon.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 13, 2009, 04:14:20 PM
What does having a low motivation to duel do? Make you do less damage or just collect less experience and loot?

You receive less exp and money. Copper springs have sent up the bat signal looks like we are impacting them. If you are a worker and are receiving multiple attacks hide out and sleep. You can just avoid their attacks by not being around when they are active. They also post their duels so they change their attacks to match your dodge and dodge the areas you previously selected. So change your settings often.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 13, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
this game needs a chat room so we can coordinate better

Maybe we could use that twitter alternative site?  Or maybe I fail to understand how twitter works.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 13, 2009, 04:27:35 PM
And if you wail on someone, let us know so we can attack them and KO them!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 13, 2009, 04:39:54 PM
All those screens happened today.  I'm guessing Cody is pretty close to KO, he's probably sleeping now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 13, 2009, 04:41:24 PM
I almost want to roll up a soldier so I can get in on this.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 13, 2009, 04:43:02 PM
Oh my god, we are fucking them up so bad.

(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/Lorekeep/AeguRape01.jpg)

I barely won but the fact that I'm a contender from having one gun is awesome.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 13, 2009, 04:52:17 PM
Nice one. :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 13, 2009, 04:52:28 PM
To Recap:

High Lander     On 4/13/09 at 4:06 AM
What would you say to our towns comeing to a truths on builders and adventurers? It brings in unneccessary people. A defenceless person shouldn't be attacked. If you'll agree to this, just write Cody telling him that you want a truths against builders and adventurers. Be sure to tell him I've authorized it.

Today's Response:

Lorekeep     Today at 12:18 AM
Why would I want this to stop? We're getting tons of free experience from kicking your soldiers' and duelers' asses. Morale has never been higher, and even more people want to play just so we can kill you and your lot. That and reading all these hilarious attempts at communication has provided me more fun than any mainstream game.

Oh... you didn't mean to infer that YOU wanted a truce? Because I think you'd agree with me that it would be a sign of weakness to propose that after all you've said and done. And, well, you know what happens to the weak...

 :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 13, 2009, 04:54:47 PM
So at what point, if any, do we let them off the hook and give them the "truths" they're asking for?   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 13, 2009, 04:55:33 PM
A great big megaguild like these guys must have great big megaguild enemies that they've been battling on the older servers. We should track them down and get in touch.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 13, 2009, 04:57:59 PM
A great big megaguild like these guys must have great big megaguild enemies that they've been battling on the older servers. We should track them down and get in touch.

fixed


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 13, 2009, 04:58:26 PM
I bet all their "Allies" are located too far away from us to give a shit about the stuff the Coppers started. That or preoccupied.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 13, 2009, 04:59:50 PM
So at what point, if any, do we let them off the hook and give them the "truths" they're asking for?   :why_so_serious:

The way I see it they have two options.  Quit or Rage Quit.  There will be not thuths.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 13, 2009, 05:00:08 PM
They have alliances or NAP with every big town in our area.  Their builders are dirtybird,northernwolf,fury24. Characters with lots of cash on hand avremel 500$,oellingham 700$,bosskie 300$. God i wish i wasn't KO'd. Them groveling after talking so much shit is balm for the soul.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: tazelbain on April 13, 2009, 05:00:54 PM
Demand Tribute!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 13, 2009, 05:01:42 PM
PILE ON THEIR MULES!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 13, 2009, 05:24:44 PM
Uh oh, they're mad now.  :awesome_for_real:

High Lander     Today at 12:34 AM
You know what, Bitch? I'll bring our allies into this. How bout I give you the reports of us KOing you? Eh?

Lorekeep     Today at 12:50 AM
That has to be like the fifth time you've threatened to bring in "your allies". If you haven't noticed, that means your town is weak and can't take care of its own problems. Boo freaking hoo.

Even your sister town seemed to cave when I said this, so let's see what you do:

Bring it on. Embroil your allies in a conflict you started. We'll be all the more happy to show them what it means to be a fucking man and stand up for ourselves. We are not intimidated by your ilk and won't be cowed into a treaty of NAP or "truths".


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 13, 2009, 05:28:37 PM
Now you're doinitriteTM.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 13, 2009, 05:29:33 PM
It took 6 of them to kill me, but they finally got me. I didn't change my tactics though, so the last guy hit me 7 out of 8 times. Whoops! Weeeeee.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 13, 2009, 06:10:56 PM
Knocked out today.  They got 22 xp and 0 cash out of the fights.  Until I get into fighting condition I will simply time my knockouts!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 13, 2009, 06:49:08 PM
High Lander     Today at 2:01 AM
Guess what? It's a game. Wanna come to my fucking house and act big? Or do you wanna sit behind a computer? Why do pricks like you get so fucking stupid over a game? Boo Freaking Hoo, tell me when you're in NC so I can kick your ass.

 :popcorn:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 13, 2009, 06:51:55 PM
INTERNET TOUGH GUY DETECTED


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 13, 2009, 06:53:46 PM
 :grin:

I don't even know how to respond. I'm laughing so hard I can't think of a funny / dramatic / lol response.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 13, 2009, 06:57:34 PM
Tell him "Comeon, Rage Quit, you know you want to, pussy."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 13, 2009, 06:59:53 PM
Respond:

"If you strike me down, I'll become more powerful than you can possibly imagine."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 13, 2009, 07:00:56 PM
I would just ignore him and let him stew in his juices while we continue raping his workers.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 13, 2009, 07:01:44 PM
YOU HAVE DESTROYED THE DEMON. YOU SHALL OBTAIN THE DEMON'S SOUL. AND THE POWER THAT IS BEYOND HUMAN IMAGINATION.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 13, 2009, 07:02:56 PM
Tell the we'll stop picking on them if they abandon their town to us.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 13, 2009, 07:08:13 PM
Tell him we'll lay off his workers.  BUT: their sheriff must come and present himself to our army, bend over, put his head between his legs, and kiss his own arse.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 13, 2009, 07:22:01 PM
YOU HAVE DESTROYED THE DEMON. YOU SHALL OBTAIN THE DEMON'S SOUL. AND THE POWER THAT IS BEYOND HUMAN IMAGINATION.

 :rofl:

No, we're gonna keep farming them until they have the sense of mind to do that themselves.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 13, 2009, 07:55:24 PM
And my burro gets to have his way with him too!

No, there will be no "truths" without seeing my burro pleasured first  :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 13, 2009, 08:03:47 PM
Since no one else will link it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a8goWjZGdo



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 13, 2009, 08:10:02 PM
The whole scene ^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeFpM2OEWPs&NR=1


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 13, 2009, 08:38:38 PM
High Lander     Today at 2:01 AM
Guess what? It's a game. Wanna come to my fucking house and act big? Or do you wanna sit behind a computer? Why do pricks like you get so fucking stupid over a game? Boo Freaking Hoo, tell me when you're in NC so I can kick your ass.

 :popcorn:

You're shiting me.  That's not possible. It's stupidity elevated to an art form. He starts with "it's just a game" and ends it with "lets fight IRL"
:facepalm:



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 13, 2009, 08:52:14 PM
This is awesome.  Best game I've played in maybe a year.  RL threats mean we won the game, right?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hindenburg on April 13, 2009, 09:35:55 PM
Means you're just now getting started.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 14, 2009, 04:37:35 AM
Finish the damn hotel. I'm going to need it in a bad way. I have < 200 HP and I just taunted a dueler that did 360 HP to me in one fight. Course, I'm also practically nil on energy. :3


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 14, 2009, 04:40:58 AM
What's on the list after the hotel?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 14, 2009, 04:50:01 AM
Tailor and General Store to 4.

One more duel and I'm either dead or leveling up and ready for another round!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 14, 2009, 08:33:28 AM
Finish the damn hotel. I'm going to need it in a bad way. I have < 200 HP and I just taunted a dueler that did 360 HP to me in one fight. Course, I'm also practically nil on energy. :3

How many builders do we have?  My motivation's dropping, and I'm going to have to sally out on quests soon.

I wish there was a way to tell what other people are building.

Last night, I built the hotel 80 points, 73 points and 69 points, in 3  two-hour blocks.  I don't know how this stacks up.  I am sleeping another hour or so, then I can build for 2 more hours but that won't finish the hotel unless someone else is working on it. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 14, 2009, 08:42:22 AM
Finish the damn hotel. I'm going to need it in a bad way. I have < 200 HP and I just taunted a dueler that did 360 HP to me in one fight. Course, I'm also practically nil on energy. :3

How many builders do we have?  My motivation's dropping, and I'm going to have to sally out on quests soon.

I wish there was a way to tell what other people are building.

Last night, I built the hotel 80 points, 73 points and 69 points, in 3  two-hour blocks.  I don't know how this stacks up.  I am sleeping another hour or so, then I can build for 2 more hours but that won't finish the hotel unless someone else is working on it. 

I am a builder, but the recent attacks have slowed me down.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 14, 2009, 09:48:20 AM
For builders:  I noticed last night whilst recklessly gunning down builders that after a few duels, my dueling level prevented me from dueling them anymore.  It may benefit you to not go on killing sprees if getting killed bothers you.  As I notice builders seem to level up slower, it might be easier for you to avoid the really aggressive pricks like me if you just let them level over your head.  Of course I know this advice will be lost on schild.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 14, 2009, 09:57:07 AM
Using my mighty 21 points of Construction I'm currently putting 2 hours into the Hotel secure in the knowledge that the Copperites can't touch me for another 36 hours or so.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 14, 2009, 10:09:51 AM
For builders:  I noticed last night whilst recklessly gunning down builders that after a few duels, my dueling level prevented me from dueling them anymore.  It may benefit you to not go on killing sprees if getting killed bothers you.  As I notice builders seem to level up slower, it might be easier for you to avoid the really aggressive pricks like me if you just let them level over your head.  Of course I know this advice will be lost on schild.

Um, you seem to think i have been dueling, i have not. I have been in town building the town, and getting KO'd every 2 days now. I have not lifted a finger, except to defend myself. I am not complaining, just informing.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 14, 2009, 10:20:21 AM
For builders:  I noticed last night whilst recklessly gunning down builders that after a few duels, my dueling level prevented me from dueling them anymore.  It may benefit you to not go on killing sprees if getting killed bothers you.  As I notice builders seem to level up slower, it might be easier for you to avoid the really aggressive pricks like me if you just let them level over your head.  Of course I know this advice will be lost on schild.

Um, you seem to think i have been dueling, i have not. I have been in town building the town, and getting KO'd every 2 days now. I have not lifted a finger, except to defend myself. I am not complaining, just informing.

Ditto.

I have no skills at all in dueling, and haven't initiated one. 

Duels won:  0
Duels lost: 20



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 14, 2009, 10:21:34 AM
Not really directed at you personally.  Just sayin'.  The worst could be over soon, as the first round of sycophants levels their dueling past you.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 14, 2009, 10:22:12 AM
Oh, and please don't take this to mean to go easy on their builders.  Don't.

Burn them down.  Please.  But not all the way; leave them a tiny sliver of health so that they cannot build.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 14, 2009, 10:27:32 AM
Hey, I thought of the perfect diplomatic solution to offer them.

Previously, we established a truce with them, we held to our side of it, and they violated it by attacking our town while we were laying off theirs.  So understandably, we'd be reluctant to strike a similar deal again.

BUT, if they can prove that they can be trusted and they can fix their broken lines of internal communication, maybe we can make it work.  So here's the deal: for one week, they lay off our town, completely.  And since they got to attack our town during the last "truce," this time, we get to attack their towns as much as we want.  All of the Coppers.  This will be a test of whether they can actually communicate to each other and stick to a deal that they've struck.

IF they make it a week under fire without any loose cannons going off on their end, then they've proved that they're capable of acting civilized and we can have a more permanent two-way truce where neither of us attacks the others' builders.

They also have to apologize to our mules, of course.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 14, 2009, 10:37:10 AM
I think we're selling ourselves short if we stop before they relinquish control of one of their towns.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 14, 2009, 10:38:11 AM
Also.

I rolled a builder on my laptop to help spread out the beatings.

GyozaBuild.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 14, 2009, 10:40:22 AM
Also.

I rolled a builder on my laptop to help spread out the beatings.

GyozaBuild.

Neeeeh.  They track by IP, not by computer. 

I also wouldn't put it past the Coppers to be reading this forum, see you admit to breaking the TOS, and get you banned.  :-P  If they're SUPER SERIOUS enough to sit there catassing our saloon, I wouldn't put anything past them.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 14, 2009, 10:43:40 AM
Its not a violation to have two accounts with the same IP. They just cant be played by the same person at the same time.  :oh_i_see: There has not been a single post about Bat Country other than to kill us all repeatedly. A truce was never communicated in any way.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 14, 2009, 10:44:17 AM
http://en8.the-west.net/help.php?article=rules


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 14, 2009, 10:45:15 AM
Also, I'm pretty sure noob man and noob man2 are related.

Yea, and I'm pretty much catassing their salon.  So I'm a retard?  I guess I'll live with it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: rk47 on April 14, 2009, 10:47:21 AM
Still at level 7. Will move to Bat Country once I'm higher. Probably leaning to Adventurer class to get more quest products done quicker (?)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 14, 2009, 10:53:06 AM
It depends on what you want to do.  Adventurers can make nice pvpers since you can sleep free.  Adventurers can find items with a bit more success than others.  Soldiers seem solid in pvp with the bonuses they get.  Workers give us access to more gear and can be good at melee combat.  Duelers move faster, are more motivated to fight and get more money from it if they win.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 14, 2009, 11:11:26 AM
Soldiers are more defensive types due to increased bonus to Tactics (Useful only when defending) and will likely become important when Forts get in the game.

We're still the largest town in the county so we're guaranteed a fort.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 14, 2009, 11:17:41 AM
Also.

I rolled a builder on my laptop to help spread out the beatings.

GyozaBuild.

Neeeeh.  They track by IP, not by computer. 

I also wouldn't put it past the Coppers to be reading this forum, see you admit to breaking the TOS, and get you banned.  :-P  If they're SUPER SERIOUS enough to sit there catassing our saloon, I wouldn't put anything past them.

Our town sign does tell them to Google it =p


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: rk47 on April 14, 2009, 11:23:42 AM
It depends on what you want to do.  Adventurers can make nice pvpers since you can sleep free.  Adventurers can find items with a bit more success than others.  Soldiers seem solid in pvp with the bonuses they get.  Workers give us access to more gear and can be good at melee combat.  Duelers move faster, are more motivated to fight and get more money from it if they win.

Ahhh true that. I can't catch up to you guys on levels so probably being adventurer seems like the somewhat 'fastest' route to level. Is it possible to trade items in this game? If that is the case then why not we just trade quest products we might need etc? 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 14, 2009, 11:26:08 AM
You cannot trade items. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 14, 2009, 11:40:56 AM
If you optimize your character you can easily pass people who started way before you. Dueling being the fastest. And allocating skills for a certain path of jobs being the next.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 14, 2009, 11:42:52 AM
Hotel done. Black headband, where to find, anyone know?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 14, 2009, 11:47:53 AM
Refilled the kitty with cash for 6 hours of work.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 14, 2009, 11:51:00 AM
Hotel done. Black headband, where to find, anyone know?

I don't but if you find one let me know.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: rk47 on April 14, 2009, 11:52:05 AM
If you optimize your character you can easily pass people who started way before you. Dueling being the fastest. And allocating skills for a certain path of jobs being the next.

Would it be worth it to just skip the quests and spam points to do those 9-15 exp jobs? I really hate these 'collect X product' quests.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 14, 2009, 11:53:40 AM
Dueling will raise your dueling level but not your base character level. Jobs are a surefire way to raise character power while duels are not guaranteed.  Part of the reason we are hitting the Coppers back hard now is that we're outstripping them in levels and got a good weapon to fight back with.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 14, 2009, 11:54:30 AM
Some of the quest rewards are pretty sweet (big hunks of XP/cash, nice items that boost your stats, etc).  But you can always focus your efforts on unlocking high XP jobs and take the quests when you unlock the quest jobs incidentally rather than working toward them specifically.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 14, 2009, 11:56:00 AM
The problem is that those quests branch off into others. Ive gotten half of my levels from dueling so i haven't taken the time to figure out the path of least resistance. I linked a website earlier in this thread that has basically all the info in the game. Every job/quest and their requirements. If you chart your path you will be doing jobs that have 25%+ exp,money. And if your an adventurer you will make ass loads of cash. The later quest lines involve TONS of crap you have to complete.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 14, 2009, 12:01:44 PM
Yeah, this Lv. 30 quest which I'm just finishing is giving me 1600 XP, 4 skill points, but I had to collect 3 - 9 of items from Lv. 1 jobs.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: K9 on April 14, 2009, 12:04:05 PM
Started this up, character name is Boondoggle. Currently mooching my way job by job across the map to Bat Country. I have a few questions, sorry if they've been asked before.

1) When I level up, should I save my skill points?
2) I have a bunch of tobacco, sugar, cotton and such; what do I do with this?

Cheers.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 14, 2009, 12:05:15 PM
In the beginning, save your skill points to do the jobs you need to do with quests. After that, depending on what you do, you'll want to put skill points into areas that benefit your profession, like Aim for Duelers / Soldiers.

All those extra resources, if they aren't being used for quests, can be sold in town for cash.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: rk47 on April 14, 2009, 12:09:11 PM
Best to hold on to them for future quest uses. And pay attention to how much exp job gives early on. If a quest objective just tells you 'hit level 2' it's best to hit those 3-5 exp jobs instead of 'fishing on the stream' like I did for 2 hours before realizing it gives 0 EXP.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: K9 on April 14, 2009, 12:10:39 PM
The best job I can do gives 4% XP, what does that mean?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 14, 2009, 12:13:46 PM
Just gives a vague metric of how much exp it will provide. It wont be 4% of your level or anything.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 14, 2009, 12:16:16 PM
Damn, hit a black hole of content at Lv. 32. I'm a few skill points shy of doing most of the stuff I need to do.

To the High EXP Jobs!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: rk47 on April 14, 2009, 12:20:45 PM
Also it seems product % check works on half an hour basis isn't it?
Most of the time I just do a rough estimate depending on the amount of product required and the % of acquiring the product.
Eg. If I need 2 Grains and the chance to get it is 50% I'd just queue my char up for 2 hours work if I wanted to do it before going to sleep.
4 tries at 50% = at least 2 - max of 4
2 tries at 50% = at least 1 - max of 2 etc. So if I'm playing it by the noon and have the time to check back every hour, I'd just queue it for an hour.

Edit: Which is why I'm not doing that retarded 'fetch me a 20% drop chance feather' quest for that indian. :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 14, 2009, 12:24:36 PM
Yes.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 14, 2009, 12:55:28 PM
Edit: Which is why I'm not doing that retarded 'fetch me a 20% drop chance feather' quest for that indian. :why_so_serious:

God that quest pissed me off.  It took me way longer than it should have to get that feather.  Although the XP rewards in that chain are pretty decent, and the final reward is +4 skill points and a few days of a premium perk.

Later on there's a quest to get a 2% drop chance item, which is even more of a pain in the ass, but the reward is a big pile of XP and a fucking awesome hat.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 14, 2009, 01:34:53 PM
Edit: Which is why I'm not doing that retarded 'fetch me a 20% drop chance feather' quest for that indian. :why_so_serious:

God that quest pissed me off.  It took me way longer than it should have to get that feather.  Although the XP rewards in that chain are pretty decent, and the final reward is +4 skill points and a few days of a premium perk.

Later on there's a quest to get a 2% drop chance item, which is even more of a pain in the ass, but the reward is a big pile of XP and a fucking awesome hat.

It took me 32 hours to farm that goddamned flag.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 14, 2009, 01:51:10 PM
Also, I'm pretty sure noob man and noob man2 are related.

Perhaps somebody ought to tell the hall monitor who runs Monmouth (one of Copper's allies). Apparently he's our server's self-appointed policeman:

http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?t=16274
http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?t=16388



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Soln on April 14, 2009, 01:54:35 PM
what world are ya'll on?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 14, 2009, 01:55:33 PM
world 8


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 14, 2009, 01:56:17 PM
what world are ya'll on?

Avoiding reading subjects these days, Soln?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 14, 2009, 02:33:02 PM
It took me 32 hours to farm that goddamned flag.

Statistically it should have taken you 50 hours, or 33 if you had the premium bonus, so you came out ahead.   :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 14, 2009, 03:10:19 PM
I got two while guarding the fort for eight hours for my adventurer quest.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 14, 2009, 03:27:15 PM
You're making me grumpy.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 14, 2009, 03:30:11 PM
Holy fucking balls you get your health back when you ding.  Muahahahahaha.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Soln on April 14, 2009, 04:16:25 PM
what world are ya'll on?

Avoiding reading subjects these days, Soln?

in my defense, this thread has eleventy-billion 35 pages.  So yeah.  I missed the subject line.  My fail.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 14, 2009, 04:23:10 PM
I'm making more experience from Coppers dueling me who have a duel level equal with my own but a character level 10 less than my own than I am from doing jobs. It's invigorating. I've won everybody at least once against most everyone who's challenged me since we got Gunsmith 5.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 14, 2009, 04:40:35 PM
Hey, is it still possible to make new characters on world 8?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 14, 2009, 04:41:11 PM
Yeah, but I don't really want to be a group of people that need multiple characters to get ahead.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 14, 2009, 04:41:46 PM
I'm making more experience from Coppers dueling me who have a duel level equal with my own but a character level 10 less than my own than I am from doing jobs. It's invigorating. I've won everybody at least once against most everyone who's challenged me since we got Gunsmith 5.

Im the exact opposite. Got my duel level so high that everyone can now rape me. Yet am still 5 levels away from the good gun.  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 14, 2009, 04:47:10 PM
Yeah, but I don't really want to be a group of people that need multiple characters to get ahead.

Not my thought; Prospero was having trouble making an account and I was wondering if they'd locked it off.  Cleared up now though.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Prospero on April 14, 2009, 05:14:38 PM
Can I get a town invite for HeadcrabzLuvU? I'd hate to lose my hard won crow scaring earnings.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 14, 2009, 05:32:30 PM
Can I apply for the upcoming Sheriff position?  :grin:

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Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 14, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
They shot you in the head five times AND YOU JUST KEEP FUCKING COMING.  :ye_gods:

We don't have Sheriffs. But we do have Terminators.

I mean, they sent one back to the Wild West in the Sarah Connor Chronicles, right?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 14, 2009, 06:35:36 PM
Next time you get hate mail, just reply, "Hand over Sarah Connor."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 14, 2009, 06:40:49 PM
I rolled a 20.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 14, 2009, 07:12:34 PM
(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/40386/Macros/gentlemen-49er.jpg)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 14, 2009, 07:14:42 PM
I don't get iT. Nor do I geT why Samwise reverted his avatar back to the old one.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 14, 2009, 07:15:10 PM
Easter bunny.

Also, that's a prospector.

Quote
A prospector thinks you've been giving him an unfair share. He attacks you. You lose 27 health points.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 14, 2009, 07:16:34 PM
Also, I'm a prospector and I'm about to show up in their town like a thief in the night and start knifing people.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 14, 2009, 08:41:27 PM
none of you attacked the cash carriers! 250$ first duel :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 14, 2009, 08:46:44 PM
I only ever seem to get a few bucks when I duel (never more than $50). But now that I'm KO'ed I'll finish this quest line and then head back out there.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 14, 2009, 09:01:33 PM
Im hoping to get enough for something from their store. I will never make it all the way back before getting gang raped.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 14, 2009, 09:17:10 PM
none of you attacked the cash carriers! 250$ first duel :oh_i_see:

Who are they right now?  I've got about another hour and a half before my 48 hours is up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 14, 2009, 09:38:33 PM
My dueling motivation is down to 22%.  Tee Hee.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 14, 2009, 09:49:47 PM
Ahhh, I just found the post with the cash cows and they're all Copper Springs folks.  My killing spree will be at Copper Creek.  Oh well.  With any luck I'll get knocked out soon after I spend all my energy, and in another 48 hours my next raid can be on the other town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 14, 2009, 10:59:00 PM
Highlander just got back from his little 'vacation.'  Time to put him back to sleep.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 14, 2009, 11:11:33 PM
So everyone is attacking copper creek?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 12:39:46 AM
BOOM HEADSHOT

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/40386/Screenshots/West/highlander1.jpg)

(edit) haha, zabar popped out and duelled me, but he's all alone so he's not going to be able to KO me before I've raped and pillaged my way through the entire town.

(edit) aaand it looks like if you get knocked out during a duel you initiated, you teleport back home?  Sweet.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 04:03:59 AM
He is sneaky. I keep queuing a duel then queuing sleep and his canceled duel report keeps coming up. I keep bouncing in/out.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 15, 2009, 05:44:41 AM

He won't bother you for a while.

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Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 06:35:08 AM
Are anymore of them active right now? I want to scamper back with my loot. And while they wont be able to KO me in that time 2 lost duels and most of my cash will be gone.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 15, 2009, 08:21:26 AM
If I get KO'd after queuing up construction in town, does the town regain the money that was taken out of the bank for the construction or is it lost?

If it's lost, then builders shouldn't build unless they are immune.

If one queues sleep but cancels, is there a penalty?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 08:25:24 AM
Nope I queue sleep after every long activity i can.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 15, 2009, 09:17:22 AM
Are anymore of them active right now? I want to scamper back with my loot. And while they wont be able to KO me in that time 2 lost duels and most of my cash will be gone.

Cody McGyver, Jack Crowsbury, jytzen and Noob-man2 are currently at our town. I certainly wouldn't get back with my $300 haul using a donkey if they're awake. I just dueled miller7009 again and within minutes got this telegram from Shotgun Joan Collins:

Quote
Hello princess,

I will be on my way to your town shortly. Once I am there I am going spare no one. I have already ko'd 4 of your useless members...I will be looking to ko another 4-6 today.

You guys are really terrible. You should think about abandoning your town, and playing another game.

Enjoy the show cupcake.

So I sent him a reply:

Quote
Why are you writing to me? You should try talking smack to somebody who cares.

From this, I deduce that miller7009 is Shotgun Joan Collin's worker alt.

Exactly ten minutes after I dueled miller7009, Cody McSlowpoke tried to duel me, but I was sleeping for free in their four star hotel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 15, 2009, 09:29:51 AM
Sounds to me like our little Copper buddies have a lot of illegal alts going.  You're only allowed one character per world right?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 15, 2009, 09:36:11 AM
Sounds to me like our little Copper buddies have a lot of illegal alts going.  You're only allowed one character per world right?

Correct. (http://www.the-west.net/help.php?article=rules) Its a ban able offense. They should know this, they themselves are quick to report people.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 15, 2009, 09:39:11 AM
I see no reason to turn them in for having alts or even caring. I say we just keep stabbing them.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 15, 2009, 09:41:12 AM
I see no reason not to turn them in AND stab whoever doesn't get banned.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 09:43:00 AM
I can think of a couple. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 15, 2009, 09:47:17 AM
Ah ok. I don't want to know any more. I'm disappointed though. I thought we were better than that.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 09:49:29 AM
. :nda:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 15, 2009, 09:52:33 AM
Fair enough. I almost made an alt myself a few pages ago when someone said it was ok as long as you didn't play them at the same time. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 09:54:48 AM
Their forums are absolutely hilarious tho.

Edit: im stupid. I forgot that i could just leave bat country walk down then rejoin. They extremely abuse having their adventurers not be in the town unless unloading cash or buying gear. Makes them have a constant stream of revenue that cant be touched by war.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 15, 2009, 10:16:37 AM
Just KO'd miller7009.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 15, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
Well we should do the same really and not have people in town unless they're building or attacking.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 15, 2009, 10:32:23 AM
The rest of their workers have either been hit and are in the hotel, or have been in the hotel for more than 8 hours and are cowering at the prospect of facing a lone adventurer. I'm inclined to drop guild, walk to their other town and ask for an invite back...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 10:33:22 AM
 :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 10:35:29 AM
I am in favor of getting their extra dudes banned, as this will generate lulz.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 15, 2009, 10:44:14 AM
I am in favor of getting their extra dudes banned, as this will generate lulz.

Me too.  Wanted more drama, especially real life threats, those are always fun.

How are we to play this?  I've considered dropping town and rejoining only to build, but only because they're doing it.  Then again, can we be better than them in terms of not cheating and still kick their asses?

Also, need an answer here on building.  If I get KO'd while building, after queuing up construction jobs, what happens to the money that gets taken from our bank for those jobs?  Is it spent or does it go back into the town bank?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 15, 2009, 10:49:05 AM
Also - where are their forums?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 15, 2009, 10:49:30 AM
I don't think we should build unless we're immune from attack. Actually, I'm not going to build at all until I get my Construction score up. I suck compared to the other builders in town and my building is just a waste of money right now.

My current immunity expires in about 6 hours and I'm trying to arrange for it to happen when I'm low on energy and need to sleep anyway.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 10:50:41 AM
You could get that guy banned just for making threats. Abusing the town mechanics is not cheating. We can even use our sister town to KO our own workers so then they can build in peace. I guess if you optimize your stats and building it reduces the time and cost by a great deal. But ive never built anything so im not sure how it works.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 15, 2009, 10:51:14 AM
I haven't fought Shotgun John Collins yet but he has that stupid +15 vigor shirt.  He should be good.  Lets hope his aim is crap.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 10:54:31 AM
Also - where are their forums?

Their ingame forums. How can i see which enemies are in our town? Is there a way?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 15, 2009, 11:03:29 AM
Click on the teeny player icon at our town.  It'll show you a list.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 11:05:07 AM
of course  :facepalm:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 15, 2009, 11:31:01 AM
Don't get their alts banned.  That's just weak.  They'll just say their 'wives' are playing.  But we know they're all eunuchs.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 15, 2009, 11:40:07 AM
Don't get their alts banned.  That's just weak.  They'll just say their 'wives' are playing.  But we know they're all eunuchs.
Not yet... not yet...

edit: Also, new thread on the ingame war forum, seemed to be a good idea.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 11:43:37 AM
Is anyone on who can toss me an invite?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 15, 2009, 11:45:15 AM
Jesus, you're some hungry, hungry cash eaters. I'll drop 4 hours of construction cash in about 2 hours. I was hoping to save for the tailor 4 goodies, but nooooo...  ;p

-Sutro


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 11:46:18 AM
save it im about to drop a load.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 15, 2009, 11:46:29 AM
This game almost demands irc.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 11:52:54 AM
My current immunity expires in about 6 hours and I'm trying to arrange for it to happen when I'm low on energy and need to sleep anyway.

The way to do this is to hike to their town and spend all your energy duelling their dudes to spend your energy down.   :drill:  I did this last night for the first time and it was very satisfying.  Got a nice bucket of XP too.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 15, 2009, 11:55:08 AM
Yeah, I think I'll plan to do that tomorrow, although unfortunately immunity drops for me at a real inconvenient time when I'm gonna be AFK for about eight hours afterward. Hmm.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 11:58:30 AM
Sleep at their town twice 16hrs of safety.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 15, 2009, 12:02:57 PM
zabar and manores have attacked me today.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 15, 2009, 12:03:29 PM
The Legion, one of the larger allies of the Coppers, has finally showed up. They've had 3 of their top duelers tackle me pretty hard given that none of the Coppers can touch me now.

I'm going to talk to their leader, try and point out that this isn't a one vs. all situation but one vs. one.

But, yeah, we could probably afford to start bringing allies of our own into this. Pyjamas is their leader.

Lorekeep     Today at 7:29 PM
Looks like the cavalry finally showed up.

So tell me, why are you taking the Copper side of things when they started this and they are the aggressors?

Also, despite their overly-cocky attitude at the beginning our troubles, they seem to be the weaker party in all this and can't make it on their own without using their allies as a crutch in negotiations AND in dueling.

We don't have a beef with the allies. We only have a problem with the Coppers.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 15, 2009, 12:14:20 PM
4 attacks that knocked me out with full energy (ugh) all within 40 minutes of each other.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 12:19:27 PM
Can i get an invite?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 12:23:30 PM
From my vantage point, it doesn't matter how many allies they bring in, because I'm getting KOed every 48 hours like clockwork anyway, and I've learned to make it work to my advantage -- the immunity period lets me stay away from town doing jobs longer, whereas before I'd always go home after each job to protect me from random muggings.  And I've learned to mitigate the energy loss by timing my vulnerability and spending myself down by KOing their guys right before they KO me.

So getting KOed doesn't bother me any more, and is even beneficial in some ways, but it obviously still bothers them a whole lot.  This makes it impossible for me to lose, since they can't do anything worse to me than KO me.  

Asymmetric warfare ftw.   :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 15, 2009, 12:32:12 PM
To recap!

High Lander     On 4/14/09 at 2:01 AM
Guess what? It's a game. Wanna come to my fucking house and act big? Or do you wanna sit behind a computer? Why do pricks like you get so fucking stupid over a game? Boo Freaking Hoo, tell me when you're in NC so I can kick your ass.

--

Today's response:

--

Lorekeep     Today at 7:57 PM
Sorry I was laughing at you for several days. It is pretty funny how it's just a game but then you get all pissy and threaten real life recourse.

As soon as I cross the border into NC, I'll be sure to send you a message since that's your turf. When you leave NC, which means you've bothered to leave the house for a change, let me know so I can adjust my real life plans over someone I encountered in a game.

On to something that actually matters! Looks like your allies finally showed up. It's about time! Your people were starting to get their asses handed to them by us, so I guess it's time to move up to a bigger challenge.

I mean, hell, most everyone in your town couldn't even beat me in a straight-up duel. Me! Mr. "Pure Adventurer". That includes your Sheriff and his posse. Why I was even able to spend some time after my 48 hour protection was up out in the open!

--

Let's see what we pull out of the bucket of awesome.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 15, 2009, 12:34:22 PM
Something I'm figuring out is that it doesn't do a whole lot of good, warfare-wise, to KO their builders and adventurers. Killing their soldiers and duelists, OTOH, takes away their primary method of xp for two whole days. I'm thinking that if we really want to bring them to their knees, those are the ones we have to target.

Soldiers can be a bit of a pain to target, especially if they're RMTd, but duelists should drop easysauce because they're mostly high on appearance... kit yourself out for appearance to exploit their lack of tactics and ownage.

We'll see if I can actually put this into practice tomorrow.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 15, 2009, 12:41:38 PM
Workers impact their cash flow. If they are killed mid-work, they lose the money from doing the construction, any money on them, and can't build for 8 hours at the least. It's hurting their town's wallet overall.

I think it's best if our workers don't do any town work unless they are under KO protection.

You're right about soldiers / duelers though.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 15, 2009, 12:45:01 PM
Workers are easier to kill too.  Take em all down, imo.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 12:49:04 PM
I agree with you in terms of pure mechanics, Sutro, although they don't have too many actual duelists (most people who want to duel go soldier since duelist offers so few bonuses).  From a psychological standpoint, though, it obviously pisses them off no end to have their builders/adventurers KOed.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 15, 2009, 12:50:35 PM
KO'd by Harry Ballzak and Shotgun John Collins.

2 days of immunity, coming up.    :thumbs_up:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 12:52:36 PM
You also have to figure the level 30ish gear starts to cost 7k? I think is the most expensive item i have seen. Whats the max limit a bank can hold? Many people have to hold a substantial amount of cash on them to purchase expensive shit. The money and time they have to rest is the only hindrance but it can slow you down substantially.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 15, 2009, 12:54:56 PM
Workers impact their cash flow. If they are killed mid-work, they lose the money from doing the construction, any money on them, and can't build for 8 hours at the least. It's hurting their town's wallet overall.

I think it's best if our workers don't do any town work unless they are under KO protection.

You're right about soldiers / duelers though.
.

Nah, there's plenty of jobs for us to do in our 48hr protection.  Getting KO'd helps us recover dueling motivation. Towards the end of my last spree, I couldn't hit shit due to low motivation.  Best thing to do to retard their progression is kill kill kill.  Kill more than them, and they can't kill us, or work.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 15, 2009, 12:55:26 PM
You also have to figure the level 30ish gear starts to cost 7k? I think is the most expensive item i have seen. Whats the max limit a bank can hold? Many people have to hold a substantial amount of cash on them to purchase expensive shit. The money and time they have to rest is the only hindrance but it can slow you down substantially.

From what you've read on their forums, have they found this thread yet?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 15, 2009, 12:56:24 PM
Weird, I have beef with anyone not in Bat Country. I'm just being nice by not attacking our supposed allies. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 12:56:48 PM
You also have to figure the level 30ish gear starts to cost 7k? I think is the most expensive item i have seen. Whats the max limit a bank can hold? Many people have to hold a substantial amount of cash on them to purchase expensive shit. The money and time they have to rest is the only hindrance but it can slow you down substantially.

From what you've read on their forums, have they found this thread yet?

Based on the messages we've been getting from them, I doubt most of them have found their own dicks yet.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 15, 2009, 01:00:40 PM
Eunuchs, like I said.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 01:01:22 PM
They have no idea. They bitch and whine about getting attacked often. Funny considering the circumstances. I tried to instigate war by attacking all of their allies workers for days on end but it didn't work.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 01:05:48 PM
They have no idea. They bitch and whine about getting attacked often. Funny considering the circumstances.

My guess is that the rank and file have no idea that their leaders are the cause of their current misery.  Are there any particular workers or adventurers who seem bent out of shape?  I'm tempted to wail on them specially and then send a very polite telegram telling them it's nothing personal, but their leaders have made it very clear that they want a no-holds-barred fight with everyone involved and I'm trying to oblige.  It might sow some dissent in the ranks.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 01:08:32 PM
There really is not much communication at all between them. They do have a restricted forum that i do not have access to. But when i was going apeshit on their allies it took 2 days before any complaints got to me. I KO'd several low level workers talking shit to them the entire time. These guys are playing on multiple servers at the same time i don't think they really pay that much attention. Most useful thing is seeing who has cash and attacking them heh.

Here is some worker stuff.

Here is a formula to calculate how many construction points you will use per 2hrs working:

CP=(0.3766*x)+(18.526*y)

x=Labour Points
y=Motivation

For Example:

A player with 180 labour points, and 100% motivation working on constructing level 5 residence.

180-65=115 Labour Points

CP=(0.3766*115)+(18.526*1)
CP=61.835
_____________________

100% Motivation = 1
95% Motivation = .95
90% Motivation = .90


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 01:10:07 PM
Any indication who's in the loop with the leaders and who's out of it?  (If I try propagandizing I'd like to aim it at the people who have the weakest ties with their leadership.)  Or do they all seem out of it?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 01:19:54 PM
They don't really talk i believe im in the lesser of the two towns. Its seriously like "OMG VIIN KILLED ME!" bunch of people swear vengeance. No mention of any conversations or what is actually going on. Bat Country is listed as a priority with the 3 other towns they are not allies with. Somebody invite me so i can dump 1,300 and delete the character  :ye_gods: I will instantly leave.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 15, 2009, 01:35:47 PM
Workers impact their cash flow. If they are killed mid-work, they lose the money from doing the construction, any money on them, and can't build for 8 hours at the least. It's hurting their town's wallet overall.

More importantly, while they are killing our workers, I may as well kill theirs. Until my dueling level goes too high, its very good XP for me to squat in their hotel and snipe their workers. So good that I may as well do it whenever we're at war and I have sufficient dueling motivation to win fights.

The Legion guys aren't obsessed or anything. One dueled me within three seconds of me dropping out of the hotel to snipe. That's still three seconds too late if I'm sniping one person, but they must be refreshing constantly.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 15, 2009, 01:38:05 PM
Either refreshing constantly or running a macro. Given how many people out there cheat with alts I wouldn't be shocked if they were macroing too.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 15, 2009, 01:54:14 PM
Got knocked out by 480 damage in one duel. Can we please get a precise gun on the next upgrade after the next upgrade to our gunsmith ?


edit: I also dropped enough money for 2 hours of contruction into the bank, gid tu wurk, peons.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 02:01:47 PM
You can queue up a duel from a motel and instantly re-enter. Ive had some pretty fast reactions to me leaving a hotel. The interface tends to lag behind as well even if you spammed it. 75% of our town is KO'd  :heartbreak:

Its not just the gun its your stats compared to theirs. Both offensive and defensive.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 15, 2009, 02:03:00 PM
Its not just the gun its your stats compared to theirs. Both offensive and defensive.
Yeah, I started a conversation with the guy who knocked me out, maybe he tells me how high his aim rating is. :-)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 15, 2009, 02:10:04 PM
The gear disparity is huge just their hat and chest is usually like 5 levels worth of stats difference.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 15, 2009, 02:11:16 PM
I created a chat room on Chatzy:

http://www.chatzy.com/527834729325

Password is BC spelled out, all one word, all lowercase.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 15, 2009, 02:27:48 PM
Pyjamas     Today at 9:05 PM
lol - hiya Lore :)

Nothing personal of course. We got word that one of our allies builders were being KO'd constantly and sent aid. Of course there's 2 sides to every conflict, and almost always a 'who it started first' debate, but it's really not my place to get involved.

I was told they have been trying to settle this peacefully but that you had been refusing. Agian, I dont want to get into a 'he said/she said'.

It's up to you guys to decide how you are going to deal.

Might I suggest a NAP between builder attacks? That always seems to smooth things over.

Whatever you decide, I wish you the best of luck.

Cheers :)

Lorekeep     Today at 9:54 PM
No, they tried to settle it by being intimidating and threatening us indirectly with allies if we didn't see things their way. They don't care if they are hypocrites and honestly they are crying foul because we're beating them at their own game.

Yeah ain't nothing personal, except with the Coppers. But, here's what happened: Multiple Coppers attacked our town multiple times. We put them on an internal KOS list. One of our guys attacked one of their builders. Their Sheriff, Cody sent a message to me while I was out of town (in real life) about the incident. Instead of waiting for a response, they launched a full fledged attack. So we fought back. There wasn't any "We'll only KO what we lost or take the XP you gained" type deal from them, there was only total war.

I talked to High Lander, he said, to pharphase, but logs are available upon request, "Kneel before Zod." I said, to paraphrase, "Fuck You" (because while we were moving towards some kind of agreement involving "No worker attacks, go ahead and attack duelers", then reached said agreement, he renigged on the deal, kept demanding our people, then had the gall to demand an apology, WHILE NEGOTIATIONS WERE TAKING PLACE), and he didn't really care because they were dominating us at that point. He had no control over his people; his leadership skills were nil.

Then we got a gunsmith upgrade and started beating the crap out of their duelers and their workers. They got real quiet after that.

Cue you being brought in because we refused to bow to their will until they showed some respect.

You know, if you want to ally with us against the Coppers, that'd be awesome, but I don't know your prior relationship. I only say that because those Coppers ain't all that. I'm not going to call you in casually like these guys seem to want to.

We don't care if all of The West comes down on us because of this. We're already used to the idea of being knocked out every 48 hours. It isn't going to keep us from playing. Underdogs have the most fun.

--

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong anywhere.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 15, 2009, 02:34:37 PM
As long as the Coppers continue to be upset about getting knocked out every 48 hours and we aren't we really can't lose. I think it's important that we keep on smacking the Coppers and leave their allies alone for a few days. If we make it obvious that all they're doing is helping a so-called ally who can't even defend themselves from a smaller town I think the political situation might change.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 15, 2009, 02:37:51 PM
I'm willing to talk to their allies like civilized human beings. But the Coppers get nothing from us. Nothing.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Chinchilla on April 15, 2009, 02:59:57 PM
Holy shit. I should make my guy StDrahcir a dueler.  That shit sounds like fun!  What should I spec?  I'm level 12 w/ barely anything specced.

I have an adventurer on World 4... so I'm up for anything.  What you guys need more of?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 15, 2009, 03:06:33 PM
Well the legion guys destroyed me.  I guess I won't get Sarah this time.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 15, 2009, 03:08:48 PM
We need fighters.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 15, 2009, 03:09:13 PM
My recommendation, having looked over everything, would be a melee-based soldier with a 2:1 strength - charisma stat ratio. If I were to ratio out point assignments, it would be 2 vigor 2 aim 1 toughness 1 tactics 1 appearance.

(i.e., every level you just move through that rotation - 2 vigor, 1 aim for one level; 1 aim, 1 toughness, 1 tactics next level; 1 appearance, 2 vigor... you get it, right?)

Should keep you at a high enough base strength to participate in some town construction; you've got enough skills to do a few jobs, and you're just a dueling beast. The tactics bonus soldiers get is *huge* when defending.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 15, 2009, 03:15:39 PM
When Forts go into the game, Soldiers will be more important. For now, we can't force them to fight our soldiers.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 03:18:50 PM
We can't force them, but since they seem hell bent on attacking all of us, I think they will anyway, even if it means incapping themselves.  They're not very bright.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 15, 2009, 04:29:46 PM
From Copper Creek's Founder:

WhiteBrit     Today at 11:36 PM
Alliance?

Shameful to call in alliances I admit but we couldn't beat you in a dueling contest so we did what we had to...

Can we keep it cool between us?

I will be first to appolgise for all attacks on your builders, I am sorry.

--

I'm thinking of responding with the following. I'll be sending this depending on majority response.

"As much as I have some respect for your kind words earlier, I have none for any of your subordinates. You are the weak. You will be eaten. You should respect that we're playing the game by your rules. I have absolutely no animosity or even seek to lash out against your allies for coming to your aid. If they can't see the truth of the situation then we're not going to punish them for it. Unlike your crew, I'm going to talk to them and stay in open communication with them without sending my guys after them. If my guys do go after them, I'm going to tell them to stop until it's clear diplomacy will fail.

Your agents High Lander and Cody started all this. They attacked before waiting to hear a response from us. They kept attacking while we were talking, and broke an agreement they made within 24 hours of it being made. The troubles we face are on their heads. Kick High Lander and Cody McGyver from your town and don't let them back into any of your Copper towns or your larger Alliance network. Then we'll stop all attacks. Hell, we might even be friends. Might. I can't speak for the rest in my crew. But that's better than saying  we MIGHT stop attacks, as High Lander would like to put it."


--

I thought WhiteBrit was the leader of Copper Springs and was a separate town from Copper Creek. Turns out Copper Creek is the town he founded. Oops. But everything that happened from his underlings becomes the leader's problem. That's why I hope you guys understand if I kick your ass if you do something to make me look bad. :P

I understand this is a little out of character for the "Kill Them All, Let God Sort Them Out" tone we've been having, but it sounds like the leader is starting to show some humility, and my beef isn't really with him, especially if he's taking responsibility. I'll talk to him in a normal tone like I would his allies. It's the arrogant sonsabitches that are under him that I say to hell and high water with.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 04:36:22 PM
I would remove "You are the weak.  You will be eaten."  Or maybe work it into the next sentence parenthetically.  He might be too dense to realize that you're simply parroting back his own town's motto and take it as a threat.  :-P


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 15, 2009, 04:39:45 PM
Quote
Shameful to call in alliances I admit but we couldn't beat you in a dueling contest so we did what we had to...

So here he admits that he couldn't beat a smaller town and HAD to call in his overwhelmingly powerful allies. Personally I'd be satisfied if he made that admission public say by putting it on his town signs for a week or two in exchange for an end to hostilities. But maybe I'm going to easy on them...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Ghambit on April 15, 2009, 04:43:00 PM
Umm... I am playing this game. 
Already seems much more appealing than Ikariam.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hindenburg on April 15, 2009, 04:51:34 PM
Lorekeep, if your answer hits more than a paragraph, it won't be read. Should also try to keep it under 40 words.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 15, 2009, 04:56:16 PM
Yea that and instead of asking for dudes to be booted, ask for relinquishing one of their towns to us.  They're far more likely to capitulate to that than boot one of their friends.  Even if they say no, so what.  If they say yes, then it's something tangible that they can't take back.  After all, even if they did boot them, they could just invite them back, or they'd roll alts.  Not that any of that matters to us if they stop attacking.  But being as they have so many towns and such, it might just be easier for them to give one up and start again than continue fighting us.

But with that said, don't settle for their noob town, get springs.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: tazelbain on April 15, 2009, 04:57:39 PM
Tribute!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 04:59:01 PM
Offer both options IMO.  Say that you've talked it over with your people (who you should subtly imply are a gang of bloodthirsty maniacs that you hold the leash on), and that some of them think the fuckheads should be booted, while others think that an entire town should be ceded to us.  He can decide for himself what's more palatable.

Sadly tribute is not possible (other than in the form of an entire town, or perhaps offering sacrificial cash cows) because there's no way to exchange money or goods, and although nuggets can be swapped the TOS makes any attempt to extort them a bannable offense.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 15, 2009, 05:15:00 PM
A sort of tribute is available.  They are required whenever we wish (reasonable time allowances) to invite us into any of their towns so we can make purchases and leave!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 15, 2009, 05:22:58 PM
Coppers just called a cease fire from their town and all alliances until they get my response. I think they're going to read more than 40 words.

Get on Chatzy if you have a vested interest in seeing what happens.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: K9 on April 15, 2009, 06:22:32 PM
Level 6 now, my early grinding to level 2 payed off with items for 3 quests back to back, yay me.

Can I get an invite on Boondoggle please?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 15, 2009, 06:31:53 PM
We're full. We'll have residence space soon.

-----------

Here's the response:

After much discussion, we've come to four items we want you to accept before we stop. If you agree, we will cease all hostilities. If someone from our town attacks, it is a mistake unless one of these four items was violated (which will be preceded with a 24 hour notice), and you should talk to me first so I can handle my people.

First: Your agents High Lander and Cody started all this. They attacked before waiting to hear a response from us. They kept attacking while we were talking, and broke an agreement they made within 24 hours of it being made. The troubles we face are on their heads, and, subsequently, yours. Kick High Lander and Cody McGyver from your town and don't let them back into any of your Copper towns or your larger Alliance network.

Second: Remove "Where the weak are killed and eaten!" from your town and all Copper town descriptions. It's insulting to you. Just leave your town roles and recruitment up there. Originally, I wanted High Lander and Cody branded as well, but given #1, it would be impossible to enforce.

Third: We want full access to Copper Creek, Springs, Cove, and any future town's store stocks. If someone requests to join, we'd like to be granted temporary town membership within a reasonable amount of time. Depending on how our relationship goes, I may allow this for your people to ours as well.

Fourth: We're going to be launching a new offensive against a county-local town. We want your soldiers / duelers to focus there, assuming you're not embroiled in some other conflict. We are not asking for a commitment beyond this one conflict. I do not treat this as an Alliance where you can call us in for your problems. This may change in the future. It all really depends on how you behave.

--

I await your response. And, by the way, just to reinforce how important the first one is, High Lander, your CHIEF DIPLOMAT, sent me this while I was writing this response:

High Lander     Today at 1:16 AM
So I have been notified by Cody that you cried bitch for a ceasefire. Is this true?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 06:35:30 PM
 :thumbs_up:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 15, 2009, 07:33:11 PM
I'm guessing you don't want a truce   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 15, 2009, 07:34:12 PM
After High Lander's little missive, I'm much more a fan of the "pound them into the dirt" option.  If a truce doesn't come with his banishment and/or humiliation, it's not worth having.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 15, 2009, 09:28:50 PM
I frickin' love this game.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Ghambit on April 15, 2009, 10:27:02 PM
May I get a town invite?  Name's "Ghambit"
I reckon I'll be a fightin man.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 12:18:03 AM
 :heartbreak:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 04:16:05 AM
WhiteBrit    Today at 5:56 AM
We accept.

I do not want gloating messages sent to members of my town, we are bowing down to you, please respect that.

Let me know personally about any invites you need to shop, I will sort them out right away

Who is it you want us to help you KO? This is the only one, at least for a while, yes?

WhiteBrit     Today at 5:57 AM
Oh and cody and high lander will be kicked as soon as I can, they donated so I cannot kick them for 24hours I believe...

(http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/RickJames.jpg)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 04:16:36 AM
DO NOT GLOAT TO THEM. Do not attack them. It may take a bit to get the communication around that we're not to be attacked, so pardon stuff like the Eagles brought in.

But I can't help but have the chorus to Run to the Hills repeat over and over in my head.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 16, 2009, 04:56:47 AM
Holy crap. I can't believe they actually surrendered under those conditions! I seriously expected that we were entering a permanent war until one or other of us were gone.

Kudos to all the crazies that came up with those outrageous terms!  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 04:57:49 AM
Cody bounces between the two towns. Make sure they don't just send them to their partner town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 05:06:05 AM
I'll be watching.

There's a possibility that they are going to be playing us on Cody and High Lander, and that they'll just convert their characters to cash generators or somehow let them still help in an underhanded method. But we'll deal with that if it comes.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 05:06:31 AM
Holy crap. I can't believe they actually surrendered under those conditions! I seriously expected that we were entering a permanent war until one or other of us were gone.

Kudos to all the crazies that came up with those outrageous terms!  :awesome_for_real:

I thought there was a good chance they'd go through. It was crazy shit like ceded a town that they'd never accept.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 05:22:37 AM
Well none of our stipulations require any of the members to be aware of what is going on. Hes just going to change the MoTD kick those guys for being dickheads and stop attacking us. None of the town folk are going to know they were forced to eat shit. Abandoning a town on the other hand.

Adventurer is so superior to a duelist. I have access to all kinds of good money jobs. Have decent gear since im making 10 times the cash as a duelist. And equally proficient in combat. Combined with invulnerable free hotel/duel rapage.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on April 16, 2009, 06:26:17 AM
Jesus Christ.  I get stuck on a beach in Australia for a week and in that time Bat Country migrates from the entire server's bitch to the baddest motherfucker on the block to Henry Kissinger.  Nice work.




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 16, 2009, 08:38:13 AM
(http://www.forumspile.com/That-Is-A_Trap_(Star_Wars).jpg)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 16, 2009, 08:51:32 AM
Hopefully by the time I get in town there will be more nasty stuff happening!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 08:53:07 AM
We should start stock piling the assumed materials for forts. Our enemies are in a heavily contested sector. While we straight up dominant ours. They are for sure going to try to mooch into our zone.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 16, 2009, 08:56:20 AM
Hopefully by the time I get in town there will be more nasty stuff happening!

Schild is rping an anarchist, so it won't be long!

Also, yes... it's a trap. 

We should continue negotiations with the Coppers and ally with them..... over time of course. 

How long till we can change our name to "Bat Country Empire"?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 09:16:09 AM
Wait.  They said yes?

 :ye_gods:

 :grin:

 :why_so_serious:

 :drill:

(edit) Please to be posting the nasty telegrams you're sure to get from High and Cody.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 16, 2009, 09:28:59 AM
Tailor is level 4.  New items:

Fancy Slouch Hat - $1920
+1 Dexterity
+10 Setting Traps
+6 to Leadership, Stamina and Reflex
Requires level 12

Grey Slouch Hat - $220
+12 Setting Traps
Requires level 7

Brown Cotton Shoes - $170
+1 Strength
+3 Stamina
+5 Hiding
Requires level 9

Black Cotton Shoes - $170
+3 Stamina
+5 Trading
+5 Shooting
Requires level 9

Green Shirt - $560
+9 Appearance
+8 Horseback Riding
Requires level 13

Grey Shirt - $310
+13 Appearance
Requires level 12




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 16, 2009, 09:35:28 AM
o. m. f. g. I already have five of those items. I think four of them are quest reward.

 :uhrr:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 09:38:19 AM
Your level 30 these items are 9 and 13...

Hey sutro is that cross a quest reward?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 16, 2009, 09:39:46 AM
Who is it you want us to help you KO? This is the only one, at least for a while, yes?

Do I detect war-weariness?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: tazelbain on April 16, 2009, 09:44:04 AM
Hope it's a trap.  Imagine all the Righteous Fury if they betray you guys.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 16, 2009, 09:45:02 AM
They accepted?  Fuck, I was hoping we would have been able to work in the apology for my mule in the negotiations  :cry:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 09:45:34 AM
Ive asked if we are still at war. There has been no notification that their is a truce.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hindenburg on April 16, 2009, 09:48:33 AM
They're gonna turn on you as soon as you aggro New Avalon, that much is obvious.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 16, 2009, 09:55:29 AM
They're gonna turn on you as soon as you aggro New Avalon, that much is obvious.

Pretty sure you're right about that.

I didn't realize New Avalon was so much smaller than us.  That makes them quite a bit less attractive, rpers or not.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 09:57:15 AM
We would be doing the exact same thing that makes them bitches. At least send them after someone who can fight back.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: tazelbain on April 16, 2009, 10:13:31 AM
I think they are bitches because they refuse to own up for they ehat did and can't control their people.  If you guys play it above board, I don't see what the problem is.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 16, 2009, 10:26:33 AM
Fuck, I've got to the adventurer equivalent of WoW's water totem shaman quest. Run to the far end of the world. Now run to the other far end. Now run back to the middle. I guess its time to earn another $500 and buy a pony.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 10:30:29 AM
Ive asked if we are still at war. There has been no notification that their is a truce.

Is this in Springs or Creek?  It seems like it takes a while for word to percolate from one to the other.

(edit) Just in case, I'm going to end my invuln period sleeping in Copper Creek.  If this is a double-cross I want to be ready to start fucking them up again right away.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 16, 2009, 10:54:38 AM
Well I've been out doing jobs around town for about 8 hours so far today and haven't been attacked. Maybe they have some other means of communications we don't know about.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 11:20:58 AM
Give em a day to get the word out. In the meantime, if anyone wants to be our representative and join their three towns and get a stock list posted to our forum, that'd be awesome.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 16, 2009, 11:26:28 AM
Holy crap. I can't believe they actually surrendered under those conditions! I seriously expected that we were entering a permanent war until one or other of us were gone.

Kudos to all the crazies that came up with those outrageous terms!  :awesome_for_real:

I thought there was a good chance they'd go through. It was crazy shit like ceded a town that they'd never accept.

Dude.  I love you.  But they're arrpeeing on every server.  What's one town to them?

That main dude who Righ indicated thinks he's the sheriff of the whole game is who this WhiteBrit guy is trying to stay in the good graces of.  He needs to maintain his relationship with him, and in order to do that he's got to maintain that they're part of the 'awesomest dudes in the west' clique.  A feat pretty hard to accomplish if you're getting raped by pitiful us.  It would have been just as easy for him to start a new town under the noses of his higher ups. 

Then if they would have stabbed us in the back, oh well.  We would have gotten a free town upgrade.  As it is you did good though, so I can't complain.  We'll see what shakes out.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 16, 2009, 11:36:24 AM
They posted whats for sale on weststats on their town sign.

http://www.weststats.com/Towntrader/?world=en8&town=337 (http://www.weststats.com/Towntrader/?world=en8&town=337)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 16, 2009, 11:41:47 AM
Get me in for that hat asap. 

ALSO

Might be time to think about delegating someone to be a liaison for trading stuff for our town.  (Not it.)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Falconeer on April 16, 2009, 12:06:58 PM
I am growing in uninterested mode, so I am sure I am missing important info, but why was I kicked from the city?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 16, 2009, 12:23:09 PM
We were just rotating people in and out I'm sure.  Nothing personal.  We were under attack.  xD


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xuri on April 16, 2009, 12:38:08 PM
This might be a trap. :ye_gods: We should do a preemptive strike and stab them in the face before they stab us in the back. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hindenburg on April 16, 2009, 02:19:37 PM
I have a master plan.

Have the Coppers fire the first shots against New Avalon while telling the RP's that you've been bullied by coppers before and will help protect them. After Avalon engages, backstab them both in the face.  All in favor should stay silent.

What could possibly go wrong?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 16, 2009, 02:31:12 PM
Of course it's a trap.  Does anyone here really think it's not?  It was too easy.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 03:15:17 PM
Falc, we're going to build residences here soon and get more people in. Trammel is going to be our non-F13 town where we put the PUGs so if you want to help out there you can. We can swap out teh 25th slot if you need town access as well.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 16, 2009, 03:18:55 PM
Crazy Fingers continues to hunt me.

He's allied with Copper Creek.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 03:24:26 PM
Yeah but what town is he in? It's clear that they have communication issues.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 16, 2009, 03:26:03 PM
Eagle Point.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 16, 2009, 03:28:21 PM
I was beaten quite soundly by Ullstein of Copper Springs. I guess truce is one way.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 03:30:20 PM
I was beaten quite soundly by Ullstein of Copper Springs. I guess truce is one way.

I think Lorekeep should ask for Ullstein to be kicked immediately.  Zero tolerance for this shit.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 16, 2009, 03:32:21 PM
I sent Ullstein a polite telegram a couple of hours ago after he attacked me letting him know we had a ceasefire and asking him to talk to his town leaders about it. Since then he's attacked 2 or 3 more of us and I haven't had a reply. I'd say he's getting into deserves to be kicked out of his town territory at this point.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on April 16, 2009, 04:50:06 PM
If the truce collapsed I wouldn't be the saddest person in the world.  I just bought my muzzle loader and have a +12 shooting neckband.

I would have documentation set aside for the Copper allies, though, to make it entirely clear that they are the ones who are the ball lickers.  Maybe we can usurp their alliances.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 05:14:35 PM
Whitebrit just messaged me. If he attacks tomorrow, I'm going to ask for him to be kicked since he isn't respecting their leadership.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 16, 2009, 05:17:12 PM
I've just been talking to Ullstein. In his first message he told me that there was nothing about a ceasefire in any of the town forums. So I told him to confirm it with Whitebrit. A few minutes later I got a reply from him telling me that he'd heard back from Whitebrit and was discontinuing his attacks.  He also told me that he'd posted on his town forums asking the town leaders what's up.

I'm guessing things are a little chaotic over there right now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 05:18:01 PM
What the fuck is wrong with these chowderheads?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hindenburg on April 16, 2009, 05:18:23 PM
I'd bet good money that they're saying that you gents begged for peace.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 05:19:35 PM
If so, it'd be interesting to see how they reconcile that with kicking High and Cody, and giving us free access to their shops.   :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 16, 2009, 05:20:02 PM
What the fuck is wrong with these chowderheads?

Other than their habit of abjectly surrendering to towns half their size you mean?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 16, 2009, 05:21:48 PM
Could always escalate our demands and find out for sure...




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 16, 2009, 05:52:01 PM
Could always escalate our demands and find out for sure...

My mule endorses this message and/or product.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on April 16, 2009, 05:55:58 PM
I'm done questing, so I'm going to go hover in Copper Springs menacingly


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 16, 2009, 05:58:41 PM
I stand in awe of our shitty luck with 'random' shop item distribution.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 16, 2009, 06:07:09 PM
Yea. That was horrible.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 06:16:09 PM
DirtyBirdy     Today at 1:14 AM
Hello,

There have been several posts in my forums about there being a ceasefire between our towns...which is odd since I am the leader of my town and have received no such message from you, or anyone else in your town.

The simple fact of the matter is that your members attacked us, specifically our builders. So we took that as an invitation for war...a war in which you have no chance of winning. We have obliged your fighters and have done our part in ensuring a steady stream of knock outs on your end.

Until I receive an appropriate apology for your towns transgressions there will be no ceasefire. I trust you understand my position, as I do understand yours.

Keep in mind that there will be no further relationship between our towns, I would only agree to down grade you from priority target to neutral...meaning that only your duelers and soldiers would be fought through the natural progression of game play.

Cheers.
DB

----

 :awesome_for_real: One thing after another...

----

Lorekeep     Today at 1:48 AM
You share names with a town that started a conflict that brought yourself and your allies into. We kicked their ass, and they asked for a cease fire. They agreed to our terms and we aren't promoting anymore hostilities til you decided to rock the boat.

If WhiteBrit doesn't speak for you and have your best interests in heart, then maybe your two towns shouldn't be acting as if you are one, because the impression I am getting now is that you only share a name and nothing else.

Moreover, I'm sure your larger allies who you claim to be in bed with would be happy to know that your smaller alliance is a clusterfuck being put to task by a bunch of upstarts like ourselves.

The transgressions are yours, if only because you Coppers are considered one and not individuals. There will be no apology. I'm not interested in your perspective of who wins, because its your opinion what the win condition is. But if you're going to insist on acting as a separate agent from Copper Creek, then I'm going to insist you change your town's name and break off from your alliance with them.

Regardless, it seems Whitebrit and his people were making diplomatic decisions for you that they had no authority to. Awesome!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 16, 2009, 06:18:38 PM
Wow. How awesome.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 06:20:37 PM
(For those who don't want to go look it up, DirtyBirdy is the founder of Copper Springs.)

So Lorekeep, are you going to talk to WhiteBrit, or are we just going to start raping Copper Springs?  My 48 hours is up tonight and it'd be good to know whether I'm killing or being killed.

(edit) If you haven't written back to DB yet, I would tell him that we attacked them because High Lander had spoken on CS's behalf and said that all of the Coppers had declared war on us.  And that we've stopped attacking them now because WhiteBrit has again spoken on CS's behalf and negotiated a surrender.  I would further inquire whether the Copper Creek people are in fact authorized to speak for CS in this way.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 06:22:16 PM
We're going to ask Copper Creek to attack Copper Springs or the deal is off. They are either with us or with them.

To WhiteBrit:

Quote
Lorekeep     Today at 1:51 AM
I'm sorry but if you weren't speaking for Copper Springs, that changes things quite a bit. I'm going to ask you now to make one decision, which modifies part 4 of the contract: Help us out against Copper Springs, or the deal's off.

Separate negotiation lines are going to be opened with the Eagle's, Legion, and others. If Copper Springs continues to be the aggressor, I want them cut off from their allies. I made a deal with the Coppers, and Dirty doesn't seem to want to see things your way.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 06:24:17 PM
YES.  Copper civil war!

 :popcorn:

(edit) Lorekeep, ffs try to make it clearer in your posts who you're talking to and what the boundaries between messages are.  Maybe use quote tags or something?  It looks from your post like you sent the first message to WhiteBrit, when I'm pretty sure you sent it to DB.  And I guess the bottom part went to WhiteBrit?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 16, 2009, 06:24:59 PM
I say smoke Copper Springs.  Tell Whitbrit they rejected the deal.  If Copper Creek people stay out they get left alone, Copper Springs burns.  Also mention to Whitebrit that he may want to distance himself from Springs as a sister town and friend or ally.  He should also tell the Eagles about the breakdown and see if they will get off our backs or not.  

What makes the grass grow?

BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 06:28:17 PM
YES.  Copper civil war!

 :popcorn:

(edit) Lorekeep, ffs try to make it clearer in your posts who you're talking to and what the boundaries between messages are.  Maybe use quote tags or something?  It looks from your post like you sent the first message to WhiteBrit, when I'm pretty sure you sent it to DB.  And I guess the bottom part went to WhiteBrit?

Sorry, I'll quote it. That entire message was sent to Whitebrit.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 06:29:11 PM
YES.  Copper civil war!

 :popcorn:

(edit) Lorekeep, ffs try to make it clearer in your posts who you're talking to and what the boundaries between messages are.  Maybe use quote tags or something?  It looks from your post like you sent the first message to WhiteBrit, when I'm pretty sure you sent it to DB.  And I guess the bottom part went to WhiteBrit?

Sorry, I'll quote it. That entire message was sent to Whitebrit.

Then why the fuck does part of the message say "if WhiteBrit doesn't speak for you..."???


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 06:30:30 PM
Because I'm an idiot. >< And sent my response to Whitebrit without sending DB's message. I fixed it and sent WhiteBrit DB's mail.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 06:42:52 PM
Quote
WhiteBrit     Today at 2:05 AM
He never read the message I sent him, I have talked to him on msn and all is sorted now, I am sorry for this minor upset, I hope all is ok again now?

I asked to hear it from Dirty.

Edit: I take a purposely aggressive tone because I don't care if they launch a war against us. It gives you guys something to do.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 06:48:13 PM
Cody and High are still in Copper Creek.  Isn't the 24 hours up by now?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 06:51:02 PM
My patience is running thin with these guys. One more major fuck-up and I'm done.

Quote
"1hr 6min for Cody and 1h 12min for HL!"

I've encountered this before. If someone donates money to the Treasury, it looks like the leader can't boot them for 24 hours. Or maybe they just joined the town.

So by tomorrow morning if we still have problems...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 16, 2009, 07:06:35 PM
On my way to copper springs.  My cooldown is up at 6:39 server, which is about 4 hours from this post.  Let me know when to open fire.  I'll be idling in chatzy.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 07:12:25 PM
We'll see. I'm on good speaking terms with Legion, one of the mega alliances, but the Eagles have been real quiet.

They have the motto "If you have a problem with one of us, you have a problem with all five." Well what happens if one of them develops a problem with us? Does that make it all their problems, or only until I have a problem with that one?

I've figured out how to isolate and defeat the Eagles... don't have a problem with killing them!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 07:19:51 PM
Copper Springs is to be treated as KOS and a separate entity from Copper Creek.

Quote
DirtyBirdy     Today at 2:44 AM
lol...all I read was blahblahblah come knock us out some more.

You are in no position to dictate terms...you aren't in a position to do anything but sit there and get knocked the f*ck out every 48hrs.

Your best bet would have been to accept responsibility for this little mess as it would have given you an opportunity to bow out gracefully...now there will be no such option given to you again.

The fact that our towns don't share the same diplomacy doesn't make us unco-ordinated. The fact that you are so defiant makes funny...

Cheers.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 07:27:32 PM
To WhiteBrit (Copper Creek)

Quote
Lorekeep     Today at 2:54 AM
Let me be clear, actually: either you part ways with Copper Springs and help us attack them (as DirtyBirdy seems to think you two are coordinating something against us), or we're just gonna be back to where we started.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 16, 2009, 07:36:32 PM
Tsk tsk tsk to Copper Springs.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 07:45:46 PM
Politics of the situation are interesting. Legion won't come to get us "until they're called in", which will probably be when Copper Springs gets smacked around enough. Legion ISN'T affiliated with Eagles ... Eagles current status is unknown. There's only one or two of their guys in our base.

DirtyBirdy's communications are inferring that Copper Springs and Creek are coordinating in some fashion. Unless Copper Creek isolates themselves from Copper Springs, we'll be back to where we started.

I'm sure one of the rules of diplomacy is to make sure you speak for everyone you supposedly represent and that you're all on the god damn same page.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 16, 2009, 07:46:19 PM
At this point I say bring them all on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHimsjxy_Uo

Springs and anyone else who wants some.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 07:53:36 PM
If it makes you guys feel better, since it's the leader of Copper Springs who is being the douche, the only terms for surrender I'll accept is their town.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 16, 2009, 07:55:00 PM
FUCK YEA HARDCORE GAME IS HERE


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 16, 2009, 07:58:49 PM
It is worth noting that even tonight Whitbrit has been willing to speak in terms of the agreement.  I mailed him about shopping which he claimed would be available tomorrow.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 08:11:06 PM
Why would he wait until tomorrow? I suspect if they are going to do something to backstab us, it'll be tomorrow. Or maybe they are waiting for a Residence expansion.

My trust level of Creek is at an all time low. Removing the town motto was easy. Everything else is trickier.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hindenburg on April 16, 2009, 08:12:26 PM
unco-ordinated.

CLEANSE. PURGE. KILL.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 16, 2009, 08:15:40 PM
Quote from: Whitebrit
you will have to wait at least two hours once you leave your town before you can join ours then at least another 3 hours before you can re-join yours!

Our rez is almost built and I will offer you a position as soon as that is done!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Phildo on April 16, 2009, 08:39:12 PM
Will be hitting level 8 in the morning, looking forward to getting in on this.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 16, 2009, 08:46:33 PM
$900 deposited to oil the war machine.

KBCW!  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 16, 2009, 09:02:48 PM
My immunity will be up at 11am pacific time, so since I don't know what happens to queued construction job money if I get KO'd while working on construction, it makes sense to only work on leveling things, until I get KO'd.  I'm assuming by 11am we'll be at war again.

I'm out of energy now, else I'd build away.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 16, 2009, 09:44:55 PM
(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/42220/thewest/sig.png)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 16, 2009, 09:51:17 PM
what the hell is that


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 16, 2009, 10:00:07 PM
 :rock:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 10:10:21 PM
From their forums.
Quote
It's time to sharpen your knives, polish your shotguns, and put on your dancin' shoes:). 18/04/09 we will be attacking Bat Country. Please arrive in their town just before 22:00hrs server time, and start raising hell.

The goal is to knock out as many of them as possible, so the operation will not be called off until they cry "uncle"...or until they are all taking "I got slapped naps":)

Keep in mind that they are about 2.5hrs pony ride from here, so we should be mounted up and on the road around 19:15hrs tomorrow. If you would like, you can head to that area tonight but please sleep in a town close by and not in Bat Country. We would like to keep a small element of surprise.

Let me know if you have any questions...other then that...kill'em all!

Green light to hit builders, workers, horses, even kill their dogs:P


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 16, 2009, 10:11:10 PM
Finally, some action.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 10:11:30 PM
That's Copper Creek?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 10:13:37 PM
Its both of them they never had any intention of a cease fire. This is only the 4th betrayal by them.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 10:14:03 PM
Everyone start a full hotel rest at 21:30.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 10:15:43 PM
Attack their builders take their money go back and rest. Keep adventurers at their town that only attack their builders. Just pop out hit them sleep over and over till they are down.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 10:20:31 PM
Yeah go ahead and hit their builders right now. If you can incap any duelers or the such, do so. IF you need to leave town to travel, just let me know. We can game the system just as well as they can.

Priority targets are Whitebrit and DirtyBirdy.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 16, 2009, 10:21:07 PM
(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/donkey.png)

i maek banner 4 us.

I have a PSD template if you want your own. Here.

http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/donkey.psd


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Phildo on April 16, 2009, 10:23:39 PM
Look at dat fukken burro.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 16, 2009, 10:23:57 PM
Oh how tempting it is to send the body of that message to one of them in a mail.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 16, 2009, 10:24:41 PM
Oh how tempting it is to send the body of that message to one of them in a mail.

Do it, who cares.

MORE HILARITY.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 10:25:22 PM
So we're hitting both Creek and Springs now?  I go to Creek to sleep.  I think we should focus our assraping on their guys if possible since they're the most cowardly and butthurt of the lot.  Since it's pretty obvious that WhiteBrit's latest bout of diplomacy was just a desperate ploy to get 24 hours of respite.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 10:28:23 PM
Attack springs target Dirtybird,fury24,streek0,Sheven,northern wolf. That is their builders. If you link the telegram they will know its me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 16, 2009, 10:29:10 PM
Attack springs target Dirtybird,fury24,streek0,Sheven,northern wolf. That is their builders. If you link the telegram they will know its me.
If they'd know it was you, stop posting this stuff on a public forum.

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr duurr duuurr.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 16, 2009, 10:30:00 PM
So this is just springs?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 10:31:54 PM
God forbid we have any clarity on who we're supposed to be stabbing.  I'm headed to Copper Creek now and I think I have about fifteen minutes to change my mind.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 10:32:13 PM
Attack springs target Dirtybird,fury24,streek0,Sheven,northern wolf. That is their builders. If you link the telegram they will know its me.
If they'd know it was you, stop posting this stuff on a public forum.

Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr duurr duuurr.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 16, 2009, 10:33:50 PM
From their forums.
Quote
It's time to sharpen your knives, polish your shotguns, and put on your dancin' shoes:). 18/04/09 we will be attacking Bat Country. Please arrive in their town just before 22:00hrs server time, and start raising hell.

The goal is to knock out as many of them as possible, so the operation will not be called off until they cry "uncle"...or until they are all taking "I got slapped naps":)

Keep in mind that they are about 2.5hrs pony ride from here, so we should be mounted up and on the road around 19:15hrs tomorrow. If you would like, you can head to that area tonight but please sleep in a town close by and not in Bat Country. We would like to keep a small element of surprise.

Let me know if you have any questions...other then that...kill'em all!

Green light to hit builders, workers, horses, even kill their dogs:P


Which
Town
Forum
Is
This

Copper Springs or Copper Creek?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 10:34:37 PM
HEY LOREKEEP

HEY

ARE WE ATTACKING SPRINGS OR CREEK?  OR BOTH?

THX


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 10:34:47 PM
NEITHER
IT
IS
A
TELEGRAM
SENT
TO
BOTH
TOWNS


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 10:35:18 PM
Both.

Priority Targets: WhiteBrit, DirtyBirdy

Secondary Targets: High Lander, Cody


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 16, 2009, 10:35:32 PM
Sent this to DirtyBirdy

Quote
From YOUR forums.

"It's time to sharpen your knives, polish your shotguns, and put on your dancin' shoes:). 18/04/09 we will be attacking Bat Country. Please arrive in their town just before 22:00hrs server time, and start raising hell.

The goal is to knock out as many of them as possible, so the operation will not be called off until they cry "uncle"...or until they are all taking "I got slapped naps":)

Keep in mind that they are about 2.5hrs pony ride from here, so we should be mounted up and on the road around 19:15hrs tomorrow. If you would like, you can head to that area tonight but please sleep in a town close by and not in Bat Country. We would like to keep a small element of surprise.

Let me know if you have any questions...other then that...kill'em all!

Green light to hit builders, workers, horses, even kill their dogs:P"

Dude...

Perhaps you'd like to take a few minutes to figure out who you're dealing with here. You have no chance at winning. This is just giggles.

TEE HEE

SORRY SPY

I'm headed to creek.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 16, 2009, 10:35:44 PM
Roger that.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 10:46:05 PM
I need an Awesome For Real ASCII, stat.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 16, 2009, 10:59:44 PM
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Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 16, 2009, 11:21:03 PM
I think he's mad.

Quote
DirtyBirdy    Today at 6:29 AM
Doesn't matter...enjoy the constant ko show.

It must be hard to gain experience when you are constantly ko'd?

Your town sucks

Quote
DirtyBirdy     Today at 6:34 AM
From YOUR forums:

We suck...let's just give up. I can't play this game when I am continually knocked out. I guess I will have to go back to sticking a pickle in my butt and watching the dog hump my mom.

xoxoxxo

Also, How the fuck did he know about the pickle?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 16, 2009, 11:22:42 PM
huh?

Edit: Seriously, these unattributed posts. Anyway, who's forum? I don't understand. "From YOUR forum?" What the hell is he referring to. Also, ding, self-grats, 34k posts.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 16, 2009, 11:26:41 PM
I sent him the thing that the spy posted.  He replied.  Look the post I made before that one.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 16, 2009, 11:27:13 PM
Fury24 hit for 374. Jiji, streek, sheven all queued. (all springs) Hitting the hay so won't have results on those till morning.

A new challenger appears!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 11:27:39 PM
And now their plan is canceled and they know they are compromised.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 11:38:56 PM
If the message didn't tip them off the attacks on their builders would.

Let them guess.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 16, 2009, 11:40:04 PM
Quote
Since someone has forwarded this information to the target town, there really isn't any point in proceeding. Just attack at your own leisure.

PS - Bat Country can suck the underside of my dirty balls. Leak that info you rat f*ck.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 16, 2009, 11:40:44 PM
I loled irl.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 16, 2009, 11:44:43 PM
Quote
From:  Gyoza     Today at 7:10 AM
To:  DirtyBirdy
You know. If your nuts are dirty... You should take a shower.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 16, 2009, 11:49:32 PM
I feel like we're fighting a day care center.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 16, 2009, 11:54:21 PM
As long as we don't fight back with LolCats, I think we'll be OK.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 17, 2009, 12:05:54 AM
Does anyone know the restraints on removing a person from the town. Does the last time you have deposited into the town account make you immune from removal for a period of time?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 17, 2009, 12:10:55 AM
I think it's bullshit, I think it's if they just joined.

After sending a  :awesome_for_real::

Quote

DirtyBirdy     Today at 7:35 AM
??

Please don't send me pics of your mom...


I swear, they can't be more than... 12. Tops.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 17, 2009, 12:31:00 AM
8 hours and not a single steak.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 17, 2009, 12:46:35 AM
Shotgun Joan Collins sent me this:

Quote
Howdy,

Just wanted to say hello...I notice you aren't ko'd...how did that happen? I will see ya soon.

Hugs and kisses:D

I replied:

Quote
You're role-playing that actress from Dynasty aren't you?



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 17, 2009, 01:10:28 AM
Dude that's funny.  He sent me something similar, and I told him I didn't roleplay.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 17, 2009, 01:30:50 AM
I replied "I put on my robe and wizard hat."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 17, 2009, 02:54:11 AM
Is there any way we can expand this drama to the world 8 West forums? I'm betting that the major West nerds take those very seriously indeed.  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 17, 2009, 02:57:29 AM
Beastro hasn't expressed interest in getting involved. I did a short summary I'm sending to their leaders of the flow of events and the communications between us. Granted, I don't paint a 100% POSITIVE picture...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Falconeer on April 17, 2009, 04:34:16 AM
Sucks. I want to be involved but I am too lazy to understand what am I supposed to do other than leveling. I am 14, by the way. Can I be useful in any way? I have a few money too, would they help the town (which I still don't belong too since I was kicked)?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xuri on April 17, 2009, 04:58:50 AM
What are the limitations when it comes to leaving & rejoining town? Would it be feasible to do something like leaving town while travelling to Copper Springs/Creek, then rejoining once there and ready for some duelling action? I was knocked out today while travelling to their town, never got a chance to do any damage. :/


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 17, 2009, 05:48:21 AM
It's a good thing that some of you guys enjoy the drama because this is way too  much for me.  I prefer the stay silent and kill approach.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 17, 2009, 05:56:05 AM
What are the limitations when it comes to leaving & rejoining town? Would it be feasible to do something like leaving town while travelling to Copper Springs/Creek, then rejoining once there and ready for some duelling action? I was knocked out today while travelling to their town, never got a chance to do any damage. :/

2 hour delay between when you leave and rejoin. And its totally viable to be townless to travel/work. Then rejoin whenever you want.

Targets of opportunity in copper springs acid87 500$,Bold john donahue 300$,midozidane808 300$,Eustake 300$,Jannokas 300$. Majority of them have 100$+


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 17, 2009, 07:12:04 AM
Yeah go ahead and hit their builders right now. If you can incap any duelers or the such, do so. IF you need to leave town to travel, just let me know. We can game the system just as well as they can.

Priority targets are Whitebrit and DirtyBirdy.

Are they gaming the system by their builders leaving town when they aren't building so they can't be  targeted?  We could also do that.

My building motivation is getting low.  Need to work jobs to build it back up.  If we were to do this, then 4 hours from now would be a good time for me to leave town (after my queued construction) and just before I become vulnerable.  In fact, I could work it so I'm always knocked out before I need to sleep anyway. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 17, 2009, 08:08:55 AM
I see 3 or 4 of us are at Copper Springs.  I'll be there in about 2 hours to join in on the carnage  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 17, 2009, 08:27:21 AM
Sucks. I want to be involved but I am too lazy to understand what am I supposed to do other than leveling. I am 14, by the way. Can I be useful in any way? I have a few money too, would they help the town (which I still don't belong too since I was kicked)?

I'm going to be leaving town today at about 19:00:00 server time (3 hours from now), so a spot will open up.

I won't be able to build for a couple of days anyway.

I assume that these towns have lower members that could be KO'd as well, which would also be helpful to our cause.  I assume that dueling is limited to particular levels.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 17, 2009, 10:11:11 AM

I got attacked twice, which is great because I wanted the duelling practice and xp. What I didn't expect is that someone would attack me while carrying 120$ bucks. I almost feel like sending them a thank you letter. Neither where coppers though, New avalon and Yuma townships.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 17, 2009, 10:22:56 AM
I'm in their town killing their dudes.   :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 17, 2009, 10:26:56 AM
Let us know in Chatzy who you're hitting.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 17, 2009, 10:28:15 AM
ALL OF THEM.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 17, 2009, 10:37:56 AM
britishcolumbia is the chat pw?

Edit: duh nm


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: K9 on April 17, 2009, 10:38:20 AM
I should be level 10 tomorrow, I guess we need soldiers?

Any advice on where to spend skill and attribute points would be gladly welcome.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 17, 2009, 10:39:39 AM
Based on the gear I've seen so far, I'd go with shooting rather than vigor.  Just because there's a crapload of items that'll further boost your shooting and I've only found a couple so far that give even minimal bonuses to vigor.  There are also lots of +toughness items (which your opponents will all be wearing) and very few +reflex items.  (Shooting helps with firearms, vigor with melee.  Currently I'm doing melee but if I could do it over I'd do firearms.)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hindenburg on April 17, 2009, 10:44:44 AM
You should keep a tally of how much money you're losing and winning with these attacks. Seeing how profitable they are should be interesting.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: K9 on April 17, 2009, 10:52:11 AM
Based on the gear I've seen so far, I'd go with shooting rather than vigor.  Just because there's a crapload of items that'll further boost your shooting and I've only found a couple so far that give even minimal bonuses to vigor.  There are also lots of +toughness items (which your opponents will all be wearing) and very few +reflex items.  (Shooting helps with firearms, vigor with melee.  Currently I'm doing melee but if I could do it over I'd do firearms.)

Thanks for the advice. As far as stat points go, should I dump everything into shooting and dexterity, or do some form of hybrid distribution? Maybe 1:1:1 Strength:Dexterity:CHarisma and 2:1:1 Shooting/Dodge/HP?



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 17, 2009, 10:56:15 AM
maybe some points in mobility but otherwise should be all dex. Since shooting/aim are both dex skills.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: K9 on April 17, 2009, 10:58:03 AM
Nothing in HP?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 17, 2009, 11:17:51 AM
Detour over to building:

With regard to Town Hall:

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The town hall is something of the gathering place for the town members. New construction projects are started here and new players are invited.

With each construction level of the town hall the other buildings can be constructed a bit easier. The difficulty is lowered by five points per level of the town hall. The maximum construction level of the town hall is 10.

I am not sure what to make of "the difficulty" being lowered. 
For example, our Town Hall is level 4 right now. 
It costs 500 points to build the Tailor Shop to level 5;
600 points to build the Gunsmith to level 6.

Surely "the difficulty" doesn't merely subtract 5 points from the construction points.

So anyway, think about this.  The Town Hall should not be completely neglected here, because it will reduce the amount of work that goes into our other buildings.  But by how much, I have no clue.


Edited to add, found this discussion:
http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?t=12157&highlight=town+hall (http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?t=12157&highlight=town+hall)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hindenburg on April 17, 2009, 11:19:53 AM
Hopefully they meant 5%.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Polysorbate80 on April 17, 2009, 11:28:16 AM
Perhaps they mean the "difficulty" number used in the calculation of your labor points (total points - "difficulty" = labor points)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 17, 2009, 11:29:55 AM
Nothing in HP?

Whether you win or lose a particular duel when starting from full health depends only on how much damage you did or took, not how many you have left.  So HP only matters toward how many duels you can do in a row before you're KOed.

Putting some points into Toughness isn't a bad idea, though, since it will help you against melee-wielding opponents.

Oh, and Charisma stats are good too -- Appearance for duels you initiate, Tactics for duels initiated by others.

Here, just read this. (http://en8.the-west.net/help.php?article=duell_procedure)  It tells you what all the stats do during a duel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 17, 2009, 11:34:15 AM
Nothing in HP?

Priority for stats for dueling should be Strength if you are melee. Dex if you are ranged. And then as priorities dodge,tactics/appearance,reflex-toughness. Toughness and reflex are both nice but dodge is way more critical in mitigating damage. If you intend to be initiating most of your fights make appearance have priority over tactics. If you are melee aim should take priority over the others. I try to keep my aim and offensive stat near the same level.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 17, 2009, 11:36:43 AM
Toughness isn't much use if you fight other gunmen since it mitigates against melee attacks. It is worthless if you're attacking workers, because you'll hit so much more anyhow that damage mitigation is irrelevant. Where its useful is if you want to be able to counter melee duelers. So defense-oriented melee soldiers mostly. And you'll have it then because you'll be stacking strength.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 17, 2009, 11:39:45 AM
Nice tool for finding which towns sell what:

http://west.orkhost.com/itemfinder.php (http://west.orkhost.com/itemfinder.php)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 17, 2009, 12:16:32 PM
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Dueling requirements

There are a few conditions for starting a duel. Some players may not challenge each other.

    * The defender has to be member of a town
    * The challenger has to be member of a town. This town also needs a mortician.
    * The challenger has to visit the town of the defender. The defender does not have to be in his town.
    * The challenger needs at least 12 energy points
    * Both players have to be able to gain experience points from the duel. These are calculated from the dueling level.
    * You may not challenge the same player more than once per hour.
    * The defender may not have been knocked out within the last 48 hours.
    * The challenger may not have been knocked out within the last 48 hours.
    * The defender cannot be sleeping in a hotel.


Wait... what?  If I'm not part of a town, I can't be attacked?  What's the incentive for support Adventurers to stay in town then?  If that's how the rules work I'm going to start dropping out of town and getting invites when I need to drop cash in the town bank.  Or am I missing something?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 17, 2009, 12:20:49 PM
You are not missing anything.  It is a terrible mechanic that people exploit for safety.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 17, 2009, 12:21:32 PM
Wait... what?  If I'm not part of a town, I can't be attacked?  What's the incentive for support Adventurers to stay in town then?  If that's how the rules work I'm going to start dropping out of town and getting invites when I need to drop cash in the town bank.  Or am I missing something?

Nope and that is what most town do.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 17, 2009, 12:25:42 PM
Or as some towns indicate, "Adventurers will be rotated in and out."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 17, 2009, 12:44:22 PM
Heh. They had 8 duels queued up for me when I came out of KO today.

I won 5 duels, leveled and got then knocked out again.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 17, 2009, 12:55:33 PM
You need to start timing the ending of your 48 hour immunity with being in their hotel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 17, 2009, 01:17:50 PM
You need to start timing the ending of your 48 hour immunity with being in their hotel.

This.  How does everyone not know this automatically?  The PvP system is completely broken and exploitable, and it seems like it should be obvious to anyone after a few days of play, to the point where PvP would be pointless if everyone did it intelligently, but only a few of us are exploiting it properly.  And the Coppers seem completely blown away by it.  If we all played the game the way it seems to have been designed (which is brokenly), they'd shit their pants.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 17, 2009, 01:21:02 PM
You need to start timing the ending of your 48 hour immunity with being in their hotel.
True. Somehow I thought I had more time. Like 1 day more.

Well. Now I got two.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 17, 2009, 01:31:33 PM
Attacked by 7 duels.  Two days of duel free grinding for me too!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 17, 2009, 05:30:37 PM
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Noob-man2     Today at 12:55 AM
lol, all i gotta say.

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schild     Today at 12:57 AM
lol to what?

I'm not even fighting back. I'm just over here, minding my own, building a railroad station so we can take your people further west after we make slaves out of them.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 17, 2009, 06:38:29 PM
Wait... what?  If I'm not part of a town, I can't be attacked?  What's the incentive for support Adventurers to stay in town then?  If that's how the rules work I'm going to start dropping out of town and getting invites when I need to drop cash in the town bank.  Or am I missing something?

It's not a bad mechanic to have the PvP system automatically protect new starters and provide an opt out mechanism. You do miss out on the advantage a level 5 hotel brings in terms of energy and health regeneration. There's also a time duration between joining towns (which varies based on how often that occurs) which means you can't swap in and out on a whim. But ultimately yes, PvP is optional other than when you want to shop.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Prospero on April 17, 2009, 06:51:11 PM
I popped my dueling cherry today and got my first win. It's very satisfying to smack down some ass who interrupts you while you're picking beans.


*DING*


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 17, 2009, 06:57:09 PM
I'm guessing Copper Creek told New Avalon about us and they're on the offensive.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hindenburg on April 17, 2009, 07:04:20 PM
Oh, hey, whodathunk?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 17, 2009, 07:19:30 PM
I was dueled six times in a row, and knocked out.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 17, 2009, 07:20:31 PM
I was dueled six times in a row, and knocked out.

Getting dueled and KOed is no longer newsworthy IMO.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 17, 2009, 07:29:53 PM
Yeah only lulz from communication.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 17, 2009, 10:03:39 PM
I engaged in dickhead diplomacy today, and basically told them the raping of their builders would continue until they surrendered all their towns to Lorekeep.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 17, 2009, 10:20:56 PM
Did you let them know that they are the ones who are the ball-lickers?  Because they are.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 17, 2009, 11:44:38 PM
lol


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Prospero on April 18, 2009, 12:04:45 AM
And their womenfolk. Don't forget they have to surrender their womenfolk.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 18, 2009, 12:57:00 AM
Dirtybird:

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I got ko'd.

I am beginning to think that these guys are a bunch of multi accounts. There messages are all similar, and they wake up and sleep too quickly. I will send a ticket in and see what the mods say.
   
   

The damage is so bad they suspect cheating. Good job! :thumbs_up:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 18, 2009, 01:36:47 AM
Suggestion, at a fixed point in time (24:00 server time ?) we all send their leaders the same message...



"You will be eaten"


 :awesome_for_real:?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 18, 2009, 01:46:54 AM
YES.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 18, 2009, 02:21:01 AM
I'm OK with this.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 18, 2009, 04:12:35 AM
Sounds good to me. I mean, shit, haven't they heard of a good communications and information network? Wars aren't won on strength alone.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 18, 2009, 12:08:55 PM
The message should probably be "You are on the Internet. Use it."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 18, 2009, 12:23:30 PM
Dirtybird:

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I got ko'd.

I am beginning to think that these guys are a bunch of multi accounts. There messages are all similar, and they wake up and sleep too quickly. I will send a ticket in and see what the mods say.
   
   

That's funny because I was the only one attacking him (that I know of) and it took me 3 duels over 2 hours to KO him.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 18, 2009, 12:29:47 PM
I just got this from Shotgun Joan Collins:

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Knocked out much? See you in 48hrs sweetie:)

I was bored, so I replied:

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Yep, burned my motivation down on your workers then hung around waiting for y'all to give me 48 hours of immunity for questing. Rinse repeat. I'm only interested in the free XP that I can accrue effortlessly from your workers when I have sufficient motivation. The war works for me - there's no way I could accumulate this much XP from combat with a worker build otherwise.

Hope you're enjoying the war as much as I am. Take care and say hello to Linda Evans for me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 18, 2009, 12:44:23 PM
My communication with them has been slightly more, uh, infantile.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 18, 2009, 01:20:50 PM
My communication with them has been slightly more, uh, infantile.   :why_so_serious:

Happy Birthday, Little boy.  Want some candy?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 18, 2009, 01:52:52 PM
Shotgun Joan Collins:

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Is that your mom?

You're proud of the fact that you pick on builders? I will enjoy it even more the next time I duel you. And even more the next time I pick on your workers...it's like a giant experience giving party in your town. If only you weren't such bad fighters I would be able to gain more.

Send Lorekeep to my room please...I am getting lonely.

Thanks:)

Me:

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Well as a worker myself, picking on workers makes sense if I want to win. I wouldn't normally do it, but if you folks are doing the same, and you are, its free XP for me and I don't feel bad about it AT ALL.

The reason we're bad fighters is that for the most part, we're not fighters at all. You're attacking workers, you have been attacking workers since you found us. You started this war by preying on pure workers while claiming that your towns are honorable and never do that. You're hypocrites and you appear to have the mental maturity of twelve year olds.

That's okay. We're good with it. We all know each other and are having a lot of fun in this game. Thank you for playing your minor part in that.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 18, 2009, 01:55:00 PM
My communication with them has been slightly more, uh, infantile.   :why_so_serious:

Happy Birthday, Little boy.  Want some candy?

I'm 35.  Fuck.

Thanks though.

ALSO

I got Jelly Bellies.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 18, 2009, 02:00:10 PM
Context:  I informed him about my lack of remorse for being a 'pussy' and not dueling him whilst poopsocking his workers - retarding his town's progress.

Just and example of the hilarity, there are like four of five of these.  He doesn't like me.

Quote from: Sawed-Off Joan Collins
How do you figure it's working? The only thing you are retarding is your own dumb ass.

I am not going to leave your town. I like it here...although is smells like pee. Do me a favour and change your diaper.

You are fighting low level builders and adventurers...you are such a coward. Be a man and take what you deserve. The violation I give you won't be nearly as bad as the one you used to receive when you used to visit your 'uncle' in the basement...

I won't get bored of raping your town...it's fun as hell.

PS - it now smells like cow poop around you...take a bath, rinse out your panties and come and fight.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 18, 2009, 02:05:39 PM
Online PvP: bringing out the best in humanity since 1997. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 18, 2009, 02:24:26 PM
Yeah John Collins has been sending me stupid texts now since he has nothing else better to do.

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Shotgun John Collins     Today at 5:34 PM
Hello,

Would you kindly ask your players to wake so I can knock them out? It's getting boring just sitting here waiting...maybe I will have better luck in 48hrs when there down being knocked out.

I see you're an enjoying a little nap yourself, that's too bad...I really am looking forward to fighting you. Is there anyone in your town that can give me a challenge? The short answer is no...but I am not going anywhere anyway.

Hugs and kisses from your devouted follower:)

Shotgun John Collins     Today at 9:09 PM
Also, your town smells like pee can you please have someone wash the floors.

Thanks a million cupcake.


Also, Dirty has told me about the account reporting now.

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DirtyBirdy     Today at 4:27 PM
Hello,

Why don't you tell the 2 members that aren't passed out to come out and fight. I have also sent a ticket into support as there is a good possibility that some of your members have double accounts.

You guys are terrible.

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Lorekeep     Today at 9:43 PM
It is the sore loser who thinks the winners are cheating.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 18, 2009, 03:03:56 PM
Online PvP: bringing out the best in humanity since 1997. 

Join us.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 18, 2009, 03:07:37 PM
It's so easy!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 18, 2009, 03:53:39 PM
I was wondering whether we could use this:

http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?t=15008&page=2

It's a thread about a war between Forum Town and Smoking Barrel Ranch that's been going on since they existed basically. Cody McGyver used to be in Forum Town and is talking up war in this thread. So he has a history of creating tensions and moving on. That might be of interest to Copper Doodads' allies. And it might be of interest to Smoking Barrel Ranch and its allies that we're fighting one of their former enemies.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 18, 2009, 04:58:16 PM
Join us.

Grayhair on world 8.  I'm level 1 and think I know what I'm supposed to be doing.  Just burned through the easy quests and need skill points before I can catch trout for the next quest.  Guess I'll pick cotton and scare crows. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 18, 2009, 06:20:08 PM
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Dirtybird: Is it true that Gyoza is Japanese for syphillis? Or maybe it's Chinese for little pecker? I don't know...but I am having fun writing this stuff...hopefully you enjoy reading it Gyoza...you cheating maggot.

Oh by the way...it took your 2 "best" duelers 6 attacks to knock me out...good job panzy.

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streek0 Where are our duelers? This is getting ridiculous. As a builder I've been attacked 10 times in the last few days. I'm about to put my points in shooting and buy a precise shotgun. Duelers please KO these losers. In W7 this would have been over by now.

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Seriouisly as a builder there is an advantage to being ko'd...in so much that you don't have to worry about getting attacked for the next 2 days. You get your experience from working, not from fighting.

I got ko'd...and I don't really give 2 sh*ts. These c*cks can't beat our duelers so they pick on our builders...they are chicken sh*t p*ssies...and most likely cheaters as well.

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Because they are a group of cheaters, wussies, and cowards. They can't stand to fight...they prefer to pick on builders.

We will continue to attack them...don't stop. Once they wake up, we'll go down and knock them all out again...and again, and again, and again. They will fall so far behind in terms of leveling up that they will be our bitches until the end of the game.

The irony is that they choose to spend their precious moments of consciencousness attacking builders for 0 experience and 0 money instead of fighting other duelers and soldiers that would give them some decent esperience.

Just goes to show you that they are a group of n00bs that have no clue how to play the game...all the better for us.

Kill'em all everyone! Great job up to this point!!!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 18, 2009, 06:30:30 PM
I HAVE NOT YET BEGUN TO ASSHOLE ON THE INTERNET!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: grebo on April 18, 2009, 06:32:38 PM
I'm putzing around in here too, Grebong.  Level 6 so far

Planning on going adventurer to level quick and dumping all my points into Dex so I can shoot people.

Stupid pigs won't give me ham.  Damn you pigs!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Ghambit on April 18, 2009, 06:52:00 PM
I HAVE NOT YET BEGUN TO ASSHOLE ON THE INTERNET!

"...It's what I do"
(http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/257/1/dane_cook_brother_stole_millions.0.0.0x0.400x318.jpeg)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 18, 2009, 07:31:09 PM
Knowing I would not make it to a Copper town before knockout I decided to try New Avalon.  HAHAHAHA!
3 Attacks before I got there.  One of which I won.  I am now popping caps in their workers.  Hit one builder for 275.  Less than a minute later two Coppers tried to hit me.  THIS IS GLORIOUS!  CAN THEY POSSIBLY BE WATCHING THAT INTENTLY?

Some pr0n from Joany:

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Hello,

I see that you aren't ko'd yet, that is something that I will be changing shortly. Remember you can't sleep all the time...and when you open your eyes...I will close them for you...

Every 48hrs...all I have it time. Might as well come and get it over with.

C'ya soon!

xoxoxoxxx

My reply when 2 copper attacks arrived less than a minute late

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Say hello to John Forsythe!



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 18, 2009, 08:02:12 PM
I'm amazed you all have the patience to talk to these dickwads.  I replied a couple of times and then just ignored them while merrily slaughtering their dudes.

I do like Pezzle's  :awesome_for_real: response, though.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 18, 2009, 08:36:32 PM
Good news is that Legion is staying out of it this time. They didn't decide to side with us since I was instigating a bit.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 18, 2009, 08:41:38 PM
Ah well.  Maybe they will join up later for the good pew pew.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 18, 2009, 08:54:48 PM
I want to get a new flag that's more specific to the game.

Early draft but kinda close to what I want to see.

(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/Lorekeep/Untitled-1.gif)

Something about Bat Country, In It For The Lulz, or perhaps talking about mules.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hindenburg on April 18, 2009, 09:34:32 PM
Too obvious. Is chop yo dolla still obscure?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 18, 2009, 09:54:53 PM
I just realized something.  While I've been gone from town, I've been steadily working, and sleeping in the hotel for 10 bucks.  It's way better than paying 40 bucks for only a few more points of energy or 90 bucks for a few more again.  I can just sleep twice and wake after a couple hours on the second, be fully refreshed and have only spent 20 bucks.

Anyway.  I'm going to sit another day and join sometime tomorrow evening, if that's possible, right before I am going to sleep but before doing any construction.  I don't want to get knocked out on a construction job.

Who all can invite?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 18, 2009, 10:03:29 PM
I can, but you have to remind me what your in-game name is.

Just make sure to get KOed somehow before you start building, since that's the only way to guarantee you won't be KOed during the job.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: grebo on April 18, 2009, 11:09:47 PM
(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/91035/hatsformonkeys.JPG)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 18, 2009, 11:28:07 PM
Well played.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Prospero on April 18, 2009, 11:48:00 PM
Is all of New Avalon fair game?




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 19, 2009, 12:05:32 AM
I have been abusing them, but I do not think they are worth a concerted focus.  Mostly newbies and even smaller shops than we have.  They may try to bow out before long.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 19, 2009, 12:09:11 AM
As far as I know, yea.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 19, 2009, 01:01:10 AM
I've been duelled by a fair few New Avalon folks... they're not exactly the most lethal fighting force I've ever seen.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 19, 2009, 01:06:47 AM
Nope, they make Copper actually look dangerous.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Prospero on April 19, 2009, 01:28:17 AM
Yeah, they've been wailing on me for the last couple days, and I'd like to return the favor. They haven't hurt me much, but I'm all about prairie justice; do as to others as they do unto you.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 04:45:56 AM
New Avalon is fair. I'm almost 100% certain at this point that Coppers informed them that we were going to attack them and so they are on the offensive towards us.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 19, 2009, 05:02:53 AM
I'm coming out of immunity at 1:10pm server time. If there's anyone over in Trammel who wants the free exp feel free to beat me senseless. :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: K9 on April 19, 2009, 06:08:51 AM
I just got jumped by some level 11 from new avalon.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 19, 2009, 08:24:17 AM
I just dropped town because my immunity is going to wear of and I am 9 hours away from BC or CC.

I am gonna need 2 invites in 8 and 10 hours. One to drop my cash in the bank and the other to get to CC savely.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 19, 2009, 09:42:17 AM
Looks like Cool1's stripped of gear and de-towned. Interesting.

Anyway, I'm killing a few turkeys before napping in Springs as my 48 comes up. I plan on giving them the what-for.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 19, 2009, 11:56:08 AM
If I've done my math right, and I think I have, I've just queued myself up to do some low-paying work and then land in CS's hotel exactly 9 minutes after my immunity is up.   :awesome_for_real:  That should provoke some angry telegrams.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: rk47 on April 19, 2009, 11:59:21 AM
Ahahah I was kinda tired after work. Logged in and picked up a quest to deliver letter at level 11. Then clicked on duel option with npc. Hmmm nothing happened. I clicked again and again and again. Till I realized I was at 0 Energy and $0 from $350 rofl.  :why_so_serious: Turns out they dont bother showing the duel scene if you lost the fight with NPC.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 19, 2009, 12:04:57 PM
Ahahah I was kinda tired after work. Logged in and picked up a quest to deliver letter at level 11. Then clicked on duel option with npc. Hmmm nothing happened. I clicked again and again and again. Till I realized I was at 0 Energy and $0 from $350 rofl.  :why_so_serious: Turns out they dont bother showing the duel scene if you lost the fight with NPC.
That never happened to me. I am sure there is SOME kind of feedback. A message like "you lost" pops up for me when I lose an NPC duel. But this has happened to several people so I am a bit anal about refreshing the browser window during duelling.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 19, 2009, 12:14:13 PM
Sometimes it wigs out and does not give any feedback. Ive just gotten into the habit of constantly refreshing the screen.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 19, 2009, 12:32:45 PM
Yea it does.

If you don't get any feedback re-arrange your duel screen and try again.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 01:06:27 PM
My immunity is up in less than an hour. I'm travelling to Copper Springs but I might not make it in time.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 19, 2009, 01:13:41 PM
Ahahah I was kinda tired after work. Logged in and picked up a quest to deliver letter at level 11. Then clicked on duel option with npc. Hmmm nothing happened. I clicked again and again and again. Till I realized I was at 0 Energy and $0 from $350 rofl.  :why_so_serious: Turns out they dont bother showing the duel scene if you lost the fight with NPC.
That never happened to me. I am sure there is SOME kind of feedback. A message like "you lost" pops up for me when I lose an NPC duel. But this has happened to several people so I am a bit anal about refreshing the browser window during duelling.

There is NO feedback, unless you click the report window.

This happened to me as well - I lost $250 (my mule money) while I was out of town.

Duels really ought to force a refresh of the page.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 19, 2009, 01:22:18 PM
I've been running around doing jobs for the last 8 hours with no immunity and haven't been attacked once.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 19, 2009, 01:25:38 PM
So... what do you do with your money before joining a town?  Is there any safe place to store it?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 01:26:17 PM
You store it on yourself, I guess, but you don't do any jobs that'll kill you.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 19, 2009, 01:35:40 PM
You store it on yourself, I guess, but you don't do any jobs that'll kill you.

So... I can't get ganked until I join a town?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 01:40:01 PM
Pretty much.

There really is nothing stopping us from doing the following:

1. Leave town unless you're depositing money or need town services
2. Workers only build after joining town and getting knocked out
3. Get invited by one person who stays in town.

There are no ongoing benefits to being a party of a town aside from the free hotel space.

I think the biggest improvement this game could use is forcing people to target Soldiers, Duelers, Adventurers, then Workers, in that order, if they are trying to attack a town. That way workers are protected if you have strong soldiers. But if everyone gets knocked down, then workers are fair game.

Then people would stop bitching about "OH HE ATTACKED MY BUILDERS."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: rk47 on April 19, 2009, 01:42:20 PM
Agreed. Currently I'm just working on quests with L12 Adventurer after a near rage-quit-inducing bankruptcy. There's not much incentive to join a town if you're not really into combat or already having Free Level 2 hotel rooms perks. I'll try to help out once I kit myself with a mule. I'm at 90 bucks at the moment  :why_so_serious:

Edit: How do I re-spec? Is it quest only?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 19, 2009, 01:45:42 PM
Pretty much.

There really is nothing stopping us from doing the following:

1. Leave town unless you're depositing money or need town services
2. Workers only build after joining town and getting knocked out
3. Get invited by one person who stays in town.

There are no ongoing benefits to being a party of a town aside from the free hotel space.

I think the biggest improvement this game could use is forcing people to target Soldiers, Duelers, Adventurers, then Workers, in that order, if they are trying to attack a town. That way workers are protected if you have strong soldiers. But if everyone gets knocked down, then workers are fair game.

Then people would stop bitching about "OH HE ATTACKED MY BUILDERS."

But how would I internet asshole?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: K9 on April 19, 2009, 01:46:26 PM
If you deposit money into a personal bank account and leave town, what happens to that cash, anyone know?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 01:49:05 PM
I believe it stays in the bank but you can't deposit anymore?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 19, 2009, 01:55:32 PM
I was told it withdraws to your person.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 19, 2009, 02:20:17 PM
The 'Pure' nonsense is comical.  Spend all your points on a single attribute and skill.  Put on rocket skates and hopscotch through a progression job system.

At level 10 with nothing but dex and setting traps trained you will be doing river fishing and beaver hunting.  By level 15 you are almost at hunting wolves.  Trading may be worse (trading at level 10) and nearly silver mining by 15.  With proper shopping you can be trading with Indians by level 15.  I have not figured out why they structured the job system the way they did.

Money in the bank when you quit a town goes onto your person.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 02:25:53 PM
Those guys are champion F5'ers! I got attacked 3 times as soon as my protection dropped.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 19, 2009, 02:28:14 PM
Those guys are champion F5'ers! I got attacked 3 times as soon as my protection dropped.

Always be asleep when your protection is dropping.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 02:28:58 PM
Duh. But I was in mid-transition to Copper Springs due to getting a late start today.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 19, 2009, 02:29:18 PM
How expensive is a basic town with just a mortician. And how many people can be in it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 19, 2009, 02:29:42 PM
Duh. But I was in mid-transition to Copper Springs due to getting a late start today.

Then you shouldn't have headed for Copper Springs if you started late?

:oh_i_see:?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 19, 2009, 02:47:39 PM
For some reason they gloated about our fearless leader's death to me.

I just told them it was part of our strat.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 19, 2009, 02:48:28 PM
For some reason they gloated about our fearless leader's death to me.

I just told them it was part of our strat.

"Death is a form of travel."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 02:48:44 PM
Duh. But I was in mid-transition to Copper Springs due to getting a late start today.

Then you shouldn't have headed for Copper Springs if you started late?

:oh_i_see:?

I was exposed for, at most, 30 minutes. I'm in Copper Springs now sleeping in their super hotel.

Is it me or has Construction on our side been slowed down a lot lately?

Gry can you enter Chatzy? I'm in Springs and I need a target list. :)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 19, 2009, 02:49:20 PM
Is it me or has Construction on our side been slowed down a lot lately?

I haven't.

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/const.png)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 19, 2009, 03:35:17 PM
I dropped below 80% motivation, so I left town.  I'm doing jobs, and will be rejoining when I need to be KO'd tonight.  I expect to restart construction after my 8 hour nap, after that.  Samwise sent me an invite already, so I'm set - but I want to sleep when I accept so that I can completely game the system and deposit all my money instead of taking a chance on it being taken from me.

How much of what a person is carrying gets taken when they get KO'd?  Is it a percent or what?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 03:37:22 PM
Cash? All of it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 19, 2009, 03:39:25 PM
It all doesn't all get defaulted to the person who KO'd you. I believe its the same portion you would normally receive and the rest melts.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 19, 2009, 04:04:38 PM
A message from Shotgun Joan. I guess he's spamming it to everyone in town.

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Hey there cupcakes!!!

Just a friendly note from me to all of you. You have proven that you are masters of all things sleeping...why don't you wake up and fight? I can't imagine that sleeping endlessly is any fun...likely as much fun as getting ko'd every 48hrs.

Regardless, I look forward to fighting each of you. I hope you feel the same.

I urge you to stop your nonsense and fight like men, and not lay down like dogs.

I'll be around for a while, and will not forget to stop by as often as possible. If you want to challenge me, I won't say no. If you want to gang attack me and try to ko me, I am anxious for you to try.

I am going to go work and duel in other towns for awhile so I can gain some more experience and continue to level up...something that you can't do while you hide in the hotels.

Don't be strangers...I won't be.

Hugs and kisses to all my sleeping beauties,
Shotgun John Collins

PS - your town smells like poop, you might want to co-ordinate a large diaper change after your slumber party.

My reply -

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Wow. A personal letter from Joan Collins! And to think I thought you were pretty much a has been since back in the old Dynasty days.

Clearly, you've moved on to a productive new career trash talking on the internet!

I'm sorry you're leaving our town to do other things. I'm sure you'll be hearing from us though. That's the great thing about not taking silly browser games too seriously. While you people are all puffed up over your silly little browser towns on the other little browser worlds we get our fun just by continually attacking you and slowing down your progress. Progress that is obviously far more important to you than it is to us.

So have fun watching all of your allies towns grow and develop faster than yours. I know we'll enjoy it!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 19, 2009, 04:08:06 PM
Really, I think talking to them at all is a mistake at this point.  They seem to get more pissed off when we're quiet and/or tersely derisive than when we actually reply to them.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 04:49:59 PM
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DirtyBirdy     On 4/19/09 at 11:18 PM
You explain to me how we are losing and I will listen. Are my members sleeping 23hrs a day? No. Are 95% of my members ko'd every 48hrs? No.

You must not understand what it means to be winning.

So please enlighten me?

I anxioulsy await your response.

I almost forgot to mention, whoever your spy is, they can eat my poop. We don't need to stoop to dirty tactics to beat your chump town.

Tell Xuri thanks for his donation. It was greatly appreciated.

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Lorekeep     Today at 12:16 AM
"We don't need to stoop to dirty tactics to beat your chump town."

Except bringing in GMs cause you think we're cheating.

Sorry that we're not playing this game the way you want to, but that just makes us better than you.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 19, 2009, 05:03:55 PM
Really, I think talking to them at all is a mistake at this point.  They seem to get more pissed off when we're quiet and/or tersely derisive than when we actually reply to them.

Oh it's getting to them.  People are 'retiring' from the game.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 19, 2009, 05:05:36 PM
It really upsets them when we claim to be winning the war. We should work that into our town sign. "Bat Country - Beating Coppers Senseless Since 1883"  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 19, 2009, 05:05:57 PM
Some of their members are openly complaining about a lack of protection.

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"Nothing yet. I suggest everyone send in a support ticket. The more noise we make the harder the mods will look into the situation.

I will also be posting a call out thread in the general forums on w8...I will post a link once I have it up.

I am tired of these chicken tactics."

Make a thread first gogo.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 19, 2009, 05:15:44 PM
I'm confused.  How exactly do they think we're cheating?

Cheating as opposed to gaming the system, I mean - and aren't they gaming the system?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 19, 2009, 05:19:38 PM
They think we all have multiple characters just because we're good at synchronizing our attacks and because years of posting on F13 have made us all sound kind of alike.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 19, 2009, 05:20:19 PM
They believe you are all one person with a bunch of boted accounts. Since the complex organization required to queue a duel then sleep is beyond the ability of mortals. You also all sound the same.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 19, 2009, 05:21:15 PM
Damn you gryeyes! You're me aren't you? I knew it!!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 05:21:24 PM
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DirtyBirdy     Today at 12:36 AM
I don't think you are...it's pretty obvious.

Are you guys still sleeping, or should I get my soldiers and duelers back to your town to knock you out again?

Since you didn't give me any evidence of your claim to be winning I will assume that you know you aren't. You aren't better then me, or anyone else in my town...dare I say you aren't better then anyone else playing this game?

You should have stayed playing on-line checkers or whatever game you used to play.

Cheers.

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Lorekeep     Today at 12:48 AM
I don't mention it because you're too stubborn to be convinced otherwise, so why waste the energy? Just like trying to cajole me to change our town's playing strategy just so you can benefit is a stupid waste of your time.

By the way all the telegrams and forum posts your members are making are hilarious. It's like we don't have to do anything but be annoying to you and you do all the work of entertaining us.

If they are trying to send in a bunch of support tickets then they are backing the wrong horse.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 19, 2009, 05:23:00 PM
They were convinced that four of us were one person because we coordinated attacks. Its the Internet dudes.

Now that they have seen no bans, they're less sure about that and so now they're upset about us using the hotels to snipe with protection and want the devs to allow them to kill people in hotels. So they are going to make a thread to whine about the 'exploit' and us in general.

Which means that by tomorrow, we'll be batting the entire forum clique. Maximum the lulz.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 19, 2009, 05:23:12 PM
They think we all have multiple characters just because we're good at synchronizing our attacks and because years of posting on F13 have made us all sound kind of alike.

Mes ne atrodo vienas kitą.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 19, 2009, 05:30:10 PM
If they do make a whine thread on the forums, we should just all reply with 'WAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!' with our unique ips and make it easy on the GM's.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 19, 2009, 05:34:48 PM
I think we should be friendly and nice and be very understanding of how difficult it must be to be soundly beaten by a town half their size.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 19, 2009, 05:36:16 PM
I'm also for the silent treatment.  Unless the flame war is a major part of your enjoyment, then have some free fun.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 19, 2009, 05:37:51 PM
So they claim we're running multiple accounts, but then one of their douches spam mails the whole town.  I got Joan Collins' telegram as well.  

I can't figure out if I should Yo dawg him or not.  What I want to do respond with a simple "You're a vagina", but that seems so beneath me.  


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 19, 2009, 05:39:37 PM
Dirty Bird has posted his rant/whine on the world 8 forum.

Read and enyoy.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 19, 2009, 05:40:32 PM
Tailor finished. Awesome shirt available. Wooo.

Also: http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?t=16917

Edit: I took care of that thread.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 19, 2009, 05:42:10 PM
Arguing with people like that is demeaning.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 19, 2009, 05:43:37 PM
Some response is called for. 

Like, pointing out their duplicitous dealings with our town.

Or what Schild posted.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 19, 2009, 05:45:29 PM
The retardation, it hurts.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 19, 2009, 05:50:28 PM
This gets better and better. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 19, 2009, 06:00:59 PM
Tailor finished. Awesome shirt available. Wooo.

I checked the next tier.  If possible, can you priorize tailor lvl 6 over gunsmith lvl 6?

Tailor lvl 6 is full of nice cloth for ranged soldier while gunsmith lvl 6 only offer melee weapons.  Our melee fighters should be pretty good with the new shirts from tailor lvl 5.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 19, 2009, 06:06:44 PM
I herby wish a hearty welcome to our visitors from the wild wild west...  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 06:10:37 PM
We are unmasked! By a Non-Copper of all people, because the Coppers were too stupid to play the Internet right.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 19, 2009, 06:14:09 PM
It should take them a while to read through 46 pages and arrive here.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 19, 2009, 06:14:49 PM
Time it takes the ~90 members of Copper Creek/Springs/Cove to find a prominently advertised Internet opponent: ???

Time from thread creation for random guy on the Internet to find said opponent: 32 minutes.

 :drillf:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Polysorbate80 on April 19, 2009, 06:15:45 PM
How expensive is a basic town with just a mortician. And how many people can be in it.

Depends on how good a builder you are.  It takes $300 for the town, and then 100 points of construction for the mortician.  I think the latter took me $780 to complete, but I'm a soldier not a builder.

Basic town holds 5 people.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 06:17:34 PM
Maybe then they can see that we didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world was turning.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 19, 2009, 06:18:48 PM
Maybe then they can see that we didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world was turning.

That wasn't as witty in text as I'm sure it was in your head. :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 19, 2009, 06:27:51 PM
Their spirits are breaking
Quote
Manores:I just want to let all of you know that I'm playing this game to have fun and not to go after some retarded people with the brain of an underdeveloped monkey. Soooo, I won't be going after people in Bat Country. If they are having fun dueling us, then going to sleep and enjoying the protection and everything, it's their problem, certainly not mine. I would do my best to protect the town from any attacks from "non-retarded people, who are trying to have fun" but nothing more, I'm really sick of this..


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 19, 2009, 06:32:05 PM
Yeah, the Copper leadership would be well advised to prohibit their membership from reading this thread.  Can't have the troops knowing they're being led by bumbling, lying, incompetents.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 19, 2009, 06:59:26 PM
Their spirits are breaking
Quote
Manores:I just want to let all of you know that I'm playing this game to have fun and not to go after some retarded people with the brain of an underdeveloped monkey. Soooo, I won't be going after people in Bat Country. If they are having fun dueling us, then going to sleep and enjoying the protection and everything, it's their problem, certainly not mine. I would do my best to protect the town from any attacks from "non-retarded people, who are trying to have fun" but nothing more, I'm really sick of this..

So Manores is fine being in a town that's led by retarded people, but not dueling retarded people?

I just don't know what to make of that!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 19, 2009, 07:03:01 PM
I don't think I can imagine anything more LOLworthy than them failing to beat us in the actual game, and deciding from there that their best option was to try to beat us in a forum war.

That's right up there with starting a land war in Asia.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 19, 2009, 07:13:54 PM
Now that they have, I'm pretty sure we're in with a good chance of getting this one to be as epic as an SW:G thread.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 19, 2009, 07:16:50 PM
LAUNCH THE VADER PICS!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 19, 2009, 07:17:02 PM
I'm surprised that no posts have shown up yet.

Maybe they haven't figured out the whole filing system yet.  


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 19, 2009, 07:18:04 PM
Maybe then they can see that we didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world was turning.

That wasn't as witty in text as I'm sure it was in your head. :awesome_for_real:
I am tempting to IM him the lyrics line by line.

Also, please don't ban Lorekeep.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 19, 2009, 07:19:32 PM
That wasn't as witty in text as I'm sure it was in your head. :awesome_for_real:

You need to chill out with a bottle of red... a bottle of white. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 19, 2009, 07:21:01 PM
That wasn't as witty in text as I'm sure it was in your head. :awesome_for_real:
You need to chill out with a bottle of red... a bottle of white. 
Weak.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 19, 2009, 07:38:35 PM
Just a heads-up for anybody following things here but not in game:

Game drama involving Bat Country in progress. (http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?t=16917)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 07:45:27 PM
Quote
DirtyBirdy     Today at 1:04 AM
http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?p=194766#post194766

Your strategy should be to stop getting knocked out...that would be a great start. I guess you're trying that by having them sleep 23hrs a day.

Good strategy cream puff.

You are annoying...but you aren't terribly entertaining. Quite boring actually. You should tell all your members with multiple accounts to delete them ASAP.

Cheers hun.

Quote
Lorekeep     Today at 1:31 AM
You, on the other hand, are a fucking riot. :)

Quote
DirtyBirdy     Today at 2:52 AM
You shouldn't swear creampuff.

This whole thing is getting boring. I will be deleting all of the bat country topics from my forums, so you may want your spy to copy and paste any info you find relevant.

After that I won't be posting anything of value in the forums, everything will be done via PM. Each mail sent will be different, so when I see stuff posted in your external forum I will know who sent it to you.

Thanks for all the laughs, it's been a slice.

Quote
Lorekeep     Today at 3:13 AM
Yeah we kinda already picked up on your little spy sniffing tactic. WE'RE THE DISEASE AND YOU'RE THE CURE, AMIRITE?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 19, 2009, 07:51:06 PM
That smell?

Victory.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 19, 2009, 07:57:09 PM
That smell?
Despair ?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 19, 2009, 07:58:27 PM
Can't smell anything, too busy polishing my yellow poncho.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 19, 2009, 08:00:44 PM
Thread got nuked.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 19, 2009, 08:02:29 PM
I can't believe DirtyBirdy a) took this long to come up with a spy revealing tactic,
                                  b) actually told us about it before using it, and
                                  c) actually created a character called "DirtyBirdy"


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 19, 2009, 08:02:34 PM
Damn.  There goes my entertainment.  

Loved the pics.  


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 19, 2009, 08:04:33 PM
Well rats. That thread had real potential.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 19, 2009, 08:15:19 PM
I can't believe DirtyBirdy a) took this long to come up with a spy revealing tactic,
                                  b) actually told us about it before using it, and
                                  c) actually created a character called "DirtyBirdy"

He's not terribly bright.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 19, 2009, 09:43:51 PM
I dropped all my money into the Treasury and need to burn about 150 energy before I can get back in. Once I burn my energy I'll join town and let the Coppers do their thing.

I'm too high level to just waltz into Copper town at the end of 48 hours and duel farm.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 02:40:20 AM
Was there some type of rollback? I went to bed around 8 pm with 8 hours of action queued, and I come back after 1 am to find only 4 hours of it done.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Falconeer on April 20, 2009, 03:37:55 AM
I got it. DirtyBirdy is Emperor Dano.

EDIT: And I get an invalid link at the forum thread. Was it deleted or something?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 20, 2009, 04:08:52 AM
EDIT: And I get an invalid link at the forum thread. Was it deleted or something?

It was...  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 20, 2009, 07:23:40 AM
Ok, I am about to unleash doom upon them.  :cthulu:


Edit: NM i have to wait 2 hrs.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 20, 2009, 08:16:00 AM
Is it me or has Construction on our side been slowed down a lot lately?

That may be me, i have been really swamped lately.

Also:

Quote
Shotgun John Collins     On 4/19/09 at 11:04 PM
Hey there cupcakes!!!

Just a friendly note from me to all of you. You have proven that you are masters of all things sleeping...why don't you wake up and fight? I can't imagine that sleeping endlessly is any fun...likely as much fun as getting ko'd every 48hrs.

Regardless, I look forward to fighting each of you. I hope you feel the same.

I urge you to stop your nonsense and fight like men, and not lay down like dogs.

I'll be around for a while, and will not forget to stop by as often as possible. If you want to challenge me, I won't say no. If you want to gang attack me and try to ko me, I am anxious for you to try.

I am going to go work and duel in other towns for awhile so I can gain some more experience and continue to level up...something that you can't do while you hide in the hotels.

Don't be strangers...I won't be.

Hugs and kisses to all my sleeping beauties,
Shotgun John Collins

PS - your town smells like poop, you might want to co-ordinate a large diaper change after your slumber party.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 20, 2009, 08:27:50 AM
Yea, we all got that.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 20, 2009, 08:31:04 AM
Yea, we all got that.

Ah, i was wondering why they were boosting over the body of a worker, that has put ZERO consideration into dueling.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 20, 2009, 08:44:08 AM
Quote
Hello gyoza,

I have unbanned this account but the other is staying banned, if you do not follow the rules in future your account will be perm banned.

Sincerely,

Tracey
The West Forum Administrator

YEA BABY

THE NOODLE IS BACK


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 20, 2009, 08:46:28 AM
Congrats :thumbs_up:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 20, 2009, 08:48:20 AM
Also, when you leave a town the money in your bank goes in your personal account.  Mystery solved.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 20, 2009, 08:50:21 AM
So how do we goad DirtyBirdy into another humiliating tantrum?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 20, 2009, 08:51:36 AM
I just left their town and am going to kill them with their own gear. Maybe that will help.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 20, 2009, 10:57:42 AM
Jannokas just attacked me and I destroyed him for 240 dmg.  I don't have time to go to their town right now but you can finish him if you're already there.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 20, 2009, 11:08:07 AM
Jannokas just attacked me and I destroyed him for 240 dmg.  I don't have time to go to their town right now but you can finish him if you're already there.

Okie.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 11:25:28 AM
Get fell into our town so they know for certain. :)

I'm almost out of energy and ready to reassume my throne.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 20, 2009, 11:30:24 AM
Nobody was around to invite so i joined a pissant town deep west. Toss me an invite and ill leave and rejoin.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 11:31:34 AM
Welcome back, Musha
YEA BABY

THE NOODLE IS BACK

Welcome back!   :drill:

After their crowing that "several" members of BC have been banned, I bet the reactions on their forum will be priceless when the one guy who they did manage to get temporarily removed shows up and resumes raping face.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 20, 2009, 11:57:50 AM
What level do I have to be to join in the carnage?  I'm kind of digging this game.  Point on a circle and afk for an hour!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 12:00:42 PM
What level do I have to be to join in the carnage?  I'm kind of digging this game.  Point on a circle and afk for an hour!

It's easy to join.

It's SO EASY to join.

(edit) Once you join, prepare to be gangraped regularly.  As long as you regularly dump all your cash into the bank/treasury, though, it's a minor inconvenience at worst.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 20, 2009, 12:01:58 PM
I guess I mean what level will I be able to do more than die a lot?  No point in joining if I'm just going to be perma KO'ed. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 12:04:16 PM
I guess I mean what level will I be able to do more than die a lot?  No point in joining if I'm just going to be perma KO'ed. 

Around level 10 is where you start to be useful, I'd say.  People can only duel within something like 7 levels of their own dueling level, so if you're level 6 then a level 13 is the highest level that can attack you.  If you're going for a combat-oriented build, you can probably start being useful straight away by picking on their lower-level worker types; if you're going worker/adventurer, your usefulness at low levels is more a function of how much moneys you can make and put into the treasury for the higher level workers to build with.

(edit) Being perma-KOed is a fine state to be in for a worker type since it gives you immunity from duelling with very little downside.  It's only a handicap if you're a combat type and you depend on dueling for your livelihood.  But they've shown themselves to be pretty bad at KOing our combat types anyway.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 20, 2009, 12:08:05 PM
Thanks.  I'm messing with being an adventurer type right now.  I'll send a telegram to Lore when I hit level 10 or so. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 12:09:23 PM
I already sent you an invite, so you can join any time you want.

I learned to speak to an octopus!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 20, 2009, 12:21:21 PM
After their crowing that "several" members of BC have been banned, I bet the reactions on their forum will be priceless when the one guy who they did manage to get temporarily removed shows up and resumes raping face.
At which point they'll start complaining about dev favoritism or some such.  They are stupidly predictable.

I see the thread on world 8 is gone.  Pity, watching Dirty Bird make a public fool of himself was hilarious.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 20, 2009, 12:32:34 PM
I see that aside from a couple of New Avalon newbies all of their allies that were attacking us are gone.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 12:33:41 PM
They indicated they wanted a truce. I told them if I don't see any New Avalon attacks after a week, I'd consider saying "Alright, we don't care about you." New Avalon ain't worth it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 20, 2009, 12:34:38 PM
They can take my money, but they can't take my xp.  Whenever my immunity wears off, I head out to do high XP, low money work.  Invariably I get killed within a few hours.  So then I rest up and go back to high wage jobs.  Rinse, repeat.  

I originally was going to go pure trapper, but I've got to do something different to defend myself a little better.  Where is best to put my future points?  Should I diversify between dodge, toughness, reflexes and tactics?  Or should I pump one of those up as best I can.  I don't go looking for duels, but when one comes to me I want to be able to fight back.  


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 20, 2009, 12:53:46 PM
I'll join soon too.  I'm still a pissant though, I think.  I am disappointed that I can't run away screaming from a duel, though.  It's what I'm best at!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 01:02:59 PM
They indicated they wanted a truce. I told them if I don't see any New Avalon attacks after a week, I'd consider saying "Alright, we don't care about you." New Avalon ain't worth it.

No no no.

They must change their flag to this:

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/40386/Macros/avalon.png)

THEN we don't care about them.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 20, 2009, 01:13:51 PM
Dirtybirdy is sending me sniveling telegrams but blocked me so i cant respond. :?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 01:16:15 PM
Serves ye right, ye bluidy SPY!

I really wish you'd held on long enough for us to get the reactions to Gyoza's reappearance.  We never got that much useful intel out of them (intel is only useful against an enemy who has a coherent strategy), but the private BAWWWWWing was entertaining.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 20, 2009, 01:22:47 PM
Don't we have low level guys that could apply for membership ?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 20, 2009, 01:24:19 PM
I guess it does deplete energy when you have a duel interrupted by hotel.  :heartbreak:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 20, 2009, 01:36:32 PM
I guess it does deplete energy when you have a duel interrupted by hotel.  :heartbreak:
Of the attacker ? Yes. I think so.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 01:46:42 PM
AWESOME.

This explains why they don't even take shots at me when I'm in hotel-sniping mode any more.  I had a lot of trouble getting KOed last night because they were all scared to touch me until I'd been sitting out in the open for a full hour.   :heart:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 20, 2009, 01:48:19 PM
I don't understand how that works.

If someone tries to duel a person while they are sleeping, it depletes their energy as a duel would?

(I've never initiated a duel).


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 01:51:55 PM
You can't initiate a duel while someone is sleeping, but the duel takes 10 minutes to "resolve" after you initiate it (like a job).  So if they go to sleep in that intervening 10 minutes, the duel is cancelled, and you apparently lose the 12 energy it cost to initiate the duel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 20, 2009, 01:53:21 PM
But you can duel someone when they're on a job, so you schedule naps and work in odd intervals?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 01:53:25 PM
Oh nice. I think I got Cody like that.

Yeah, easily sploited mechanics.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 20, 2009, 02:08:05 PM
Yeah, I got two or three to waste energy attempting to duel me today also.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 03:07:15 PM
But you can duel someone when they're on a job, so you schedule naps and work in odd intervals?

In my case, I schedule naps and duels in perfectly timed 10 minute intervals.  This way I burn through my energy quickly (duels eat energy faster than jobs) while remaining immune to retaliation (I'm only vulnerable to duel initiation while I have a duel queued, and my duel is always going to be over before any duels queued against me finish).  Once I'm down to really low energy, I let myself get KOed and go back to jobbing.  It's a flawless system.

"Perfectly timed" actually makes it sound tougher than it is, because the queueing system takes care of most of that for you.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 04:04:08 PM
Back in. Sam, schild, can you promote me back to Founder please?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 04:07:19 PM
Done. 

Did you see my post about New Avalon?   :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 04:09:46 PM
Yeah. Feel free to keep wailing on New Avalon. I'll tell them my town disagreed with the leadership and that's why I was a pariah for 24 hours.

Also, General Store 5 HOOOOO!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 04:11:25 PM
Did you tell them about the flag?  I'm serious about that.   :why_so_serious:  Tell them we'll lay off their non-combatives if they lay off ours and they keep that as their flag.  But if they ever take down the flag we have given them or attack our squishies, all bets are off.

Assuming the rest of the horde agrees.  I think making them do something stupid and permanent extracts as much entertainment as we'd get from continuing to beat on them.  If they agree we can just find someone else to beat on and get them to do something else stupid.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 20, 2009, 04:19:32 PM
We can just find someone else to beat on and get them to do something else stupid.
Like starting a forum war with schild/f13 ?  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 04:25:41 PM
We can just find someone else to beat on and get them to do something else stupid.
Like starting a forum war with schild/f13 ?  :awesome_for_real:

God I want them to start another thread.  That was epic.  Boo on the mods over there for deleting it instead of locking it for posterity.   :uhrr:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 04:29:12 PM
I want to start getting more active F13 members into the town. I've moved Residences 6 down a bit since we still have open slots, but who all needs an invite? Doesn't matter what your level is.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 04:45:33 PM
OK we grief-trained Copper Springs into leaving us alone, but Copper Creek hasn't gotten the message. They may be purposely splitting the work of putting us to task between their two towns of 70 just so allow one to grow while another is griefed.

Anyway, got knocked out right on cue, so I'm sleeping.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 04:48:11 PM
I think we should continue gangraping both of them indiscriminately.  Although I think I'm personally going to stick with Copper Creek for future raids; they've got way more people in my level range to pick from.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on April 20, 2009, 04:54:37 PM
Duel targets could possibly be better coordinated.  Particularly, I'm thinking priority 1 is duelers who are in the right level range to slightly annoy schild and the other active builders.  And Priorty 2 is builders who are actually active.  One benefit of having a mole would be seeing their build log to see which builders actually build.  Priority 0, of course, is people who are already almost dead.

I am strongly considering writing software to better manage this.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 20, 2009, 05:15:29 PM
The General Store ought to be done in the next 3 hours.

I can't build anymore right now, out of energy, so whoever queues up building next, Tailor 6.


(edited per Lorekeep's response - my brain is almost completely unreliable sometimes!)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 20, 2009, 05:17:19 PM
Duel targets could possibly be better coordinated. 
I agree, everybody should coordinate in chatzy before they start their run on the towns.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 05:17:21 PM
After (edit: Hotel 4), Tailor 6 as requested.

You know, as far as web game design goes, I find the West has a better approach with the "One character identity, group of characters work on a town building project" rather than the "No character identity, everyone builds a town for themselves." that is typical of Nile, Travian, and others.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Prospero on April 20, 2009, 05:58:59 PM
Yup. Team games are infinitely more awesome. Plus people can specialize to help the town, which is always more interesting.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 20, 2009, 06:05:55 PM
Earning money as a soldier is a little bit slow. So many points sunk into aim and dodge which are both useless for increasing the money earned while working. And you're not going to make money out of duelling assuming your opponent is using the bank properly (and a duellist is better at picking fights anyway). The adventurer benefits really are useful for feeding the huge amount of resources needed to level up a town, of course they have to balance offence and earning as well I assume. Nice that all the classes have a role.

Almost missed the little button on the log-in screen indicating a new patch (http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?p=194128#post194128). Bonuses for wearing gear sets and some new (sex specific!) clothing sets.

* Mexican
* Pigrim (male)
* Pilgrim (female)
* Dancer (female)
* Gentleman (male)
* Farmer
* Quaker
* Indian


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 20, 2009, 06:09:05 PM
Should they open a new world, I am going to try a pure shooting adventurer.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 06:12:51 PM
Should they open a new world, I am going to try a pure shooting adventurer.

LOL, I had the same thought.  My hotel sniping would be infinitely more awesome if I could actually duel worth a damn.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 20, 2009, 06:15:43 PM
(and a duellist is better at picking fights anyway).

Not really. Duelists completely get shafted in their class bennies, IMO. They get no actual bonus to fighting, whereas the soldier, even when attacking, can use a weapon at +3 (+6 with RMT!) of their level. And let's not even talk about defense...

Plus, duelists have, by consensus, the worst class quest out of the four available. There's really absolutely nothing that a dueler can do that a soldier can't do better and twice on Sunday.

-Sutro


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 06:21:13 PM
I dunno... gating factors on making a living by duelling seem to be travel times and duelling motivation.  Duelists do get bonuses to both of those, although maybe not enough to make a difference.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 06:22:12 PM
Any smart player is banking their money. If you could see the money someone was carrying before dueling them, that would be the ultimate class ability. Dueler as spy? Visit a town, when in town, you can assess the going on's.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 20, 2009, 06:31:08 PM
Which class is the ultimate duelist?

I started a trapper and a shooter on worlds 5 and 6 just to screw around with them and see how those two level, but I have no idea what to make them - adventurers or soldiers.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kageru on April 20, 2009, 06:37:35 PM

I more meant a duellist is better at trying to earn their xp and income through fighting. That's what the motivation and cash bonus seem to be about. Since this game gives the attacker a lot of freedom in picking the time and target a duellist who is totally specialised in combat should be able to find enough targets they have a significant advantage over.

I can see people respeccing (expensive as it is) into more combat oriented builds later in the game (and once you've built up your town) regardless of class. Though you'd really hope you get a good "roll" on the items at the last level of shops.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 20, 2009, 06:38:11 PM
From the patch note :

* It will be possible to report offensive telegrams and profiles

Finally.


- - -
Not interested in a new world.  I won't pay 2 subscriptions.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 07:05:57 PM
Finally.

Goes both ways... that's why I've been communicating less and less and / or blocking.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 20, 2009, 07:07:40 PM
My policy has been to be completely friendly and cheerful when I do communicate with them.  I figure it (A) gives them nothing to report me for and (B) infuriates them by showing them that they're not having any sort of negative impact on me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 07:16:45 PM
Yeah that seems to be their M.O. too. Insults a 9 year old could make. Cream puff, talks of diapers and poo. Yeesh.

Just checking: Who is Grayhair?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 20, 2009, 07:24:36 PM
Me.  I'm grayhair.  Nebu was taken.

Sam gave me an invite.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 08:40:45 PM
Why is it when I look at our General Store I think "Swing and a Miss" ?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: execute on April 20, 2009, 08:47:31 PM
YOU FAIL  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 20, 2009, 08:48:28 PM
The level 5 stuff is deceptively good. That's the best trading with indians neckpiece short of ~3k gold stuff; the other helps out our builders with their weakest point, aim.

Most of the rares IMO are overpriced for what you get. Much cheaper to buy separate pieces since it's pretty unusual to have that much synergy to make it pay off. There are exceptions, and they hurt, but it's true overall.

Plus, most of the rares have +stat modifiers which the game greatly overprices relative to their benefit. It's only really rarely that they're +3 or +4 to your job, more often they're +2 at best.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 20, 2009, 08:49:44 PM
That smell?

Victory.

How is being constantly KO'ed and/or asleep and being out-ranked victory you retards?

You all fail.

Lorekeep     39     147     Duel not possible for 48 hours
Xanthipe    30    84    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Aez    39    147    Duel not possible
Spamwise    32    98    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Hlem    33    105    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Regg    28    70    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Pezzle    28    70    Duel not possible for 48 hours
viin    33    105    Is asleep right now
Kamen West    30    84    Is asleep right now
Hawkbit    23    35    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Trucegore    24    42    Duel not possible for 48 hours
schild    24    42    Duel not possible for 48 hours
sidereal    24    42    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Xuri    27    63    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Leodido    20    14    Duel not possible for 48 hours
You came all the way over hear to wave your e-peen.

If that's not victory, I don't know what is.

Welcome to the internet.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: tazelbain on April 20, 2009, 08:51:38 PM
fish taking bait
Finally!  


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 20, 2009, 08:51:44 PM
 :popcorn:

FUNTIME INC


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 20, 2009, 08:54:02 PM
I'm not talking anymore til he brings friends.

You all are free to use this forum also! Seriously!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 20, 2009, 08:57:49 PM
I suppose as long as they don't fag up any other threads?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 20, 2009, 08:59:18 PM
Oh, I'm sure the mods would be on that right fast.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 20, 2009, 09:12:11 PM
That smell?

Victory.

How is being constantly KO'ed and/or asleep and being out-ranked victory you retards?

You all fail.

Lorekeep     39     147     Duel not possible for 48 hours
Xanthipe    30    84    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Aez    39    147    Duel not possible
Spamwise    32    98    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Hlem    33    105    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Regg    28    70    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Pezzle    28    70    Duel not possible for 48 hours
viin    33    105    Is asleep right now
Kamen West    30    84    Is asleep right now
Hawkbit    23    35    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Trucegore    24    42    Duel not possible for 48 hours
schild    24    42    Duel not possible for 48 hours
sidereal    24    42    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Xuri    27    63    Duel not possible for 48 hours
Leodido    20    14    Duel not possible for 48 hours
You came all the way over hear to wave your e-peen.

If that's not victory, I don't know what is.

Welcome to the internet.

Welcome to the party pal!  (we see what you did there)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Phildo on April 20, 2009, 11:46:20 PM
He's already edited his post?  That's not fun at all.   :sad_panda:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 21, 2009, 12:19:44 AM
I suppose as long as they don't fag up any other threads?

Oh, I'm sure the mods would be on that right fast.

Unless it was in Politics.  Then we just let Darwin sort it out.   :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 21, 2009, 04:24:14 AM
Falconeer. Are you lefteye?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: execute on April 21, 2009, 04:56:55 AM
YOU FAIL  :awesome_for_real:

check out my new avatar.  cool huh b1tcheas?  i'll LARP your shizza.  <3 samwize


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 21, 2009, 05:18:09 AM
Oh yes. You're going to fit right in around here.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 21, 2009, 06:00:36 AM
If we expose it to sunlight, does it go grunklike?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xuri on April 21, 2009, 07:19:35 AM
Keep it away from water, and don't cross the beams.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 21, 2009, 08:14:42 AM
Let's try and hang on to this new guy.  They always end up running off, yelling abuse at us.  I don't mind the abuse but I hate the running off.  Thejeni, grunk, etc.  I miss them all.  These guys, though, remind me of Shadowbane politics, which was lovely, except this is a browser game and I keep forgetting about it.  Oh well.  Anyway, we should use Obama as an example and be nice to people who want to kill us, right? 

(http://www.thecatarena.com/forum/images/smilies/kumbaya.gif)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 21, 2009, 08:30:46 AM
I'm not sure but I think the new guy likes to LARP. Why don't you LARP with him Signe? That would make him feel accepted and welcome. And I know that F13 is all about the acceptance and welcoming. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 21, 2009, 08:58:54 AM
Mole?

I don't care... as long as he's more funny than annoying. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 21, 2009, 09:02:23 AM
Oh I'm assuming he's a Copper. Probably not Joan Collins or DirtyBirdy though as neither of his messages have contained the word "poop."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 21, 2009, 09:06:03 AM
 :drill:

I'm going to guess this is Joan Collins.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 21, 2009, 09:10:38 AM
I will larp with him as long as he keeps his cowboy hat on.  I am married, you know.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 21, 2009, 09:29:07 AM
YOU FAIL  :awesome_for_real:

check out my new avatar.  cool huh b1tcheas?  i'll LARP your shizza.  <3 samwize

Since the mods are feeling all Darwiny.  You should bring your friends here.  It will be a good time.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 21, 2009, 09:35:13 AM


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 21, 2009, 12:35:32 PM
Falconeer. Are you lefteye?

Ah, seems like lefteye is a common name for him so I'll add him.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 21, 2009, 02:21:41 PM

HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY THAT'S MY JOB


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 21, 2009, 02:27:27 PM
You snooze, you lose, freckles.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 21, 2009, 02:59:36 PM
Lv. 35 TONIGHT! Got two saddles in a 2 hour period at 8% each. I wonder if the bonus for adventurer is +20% to get the product or +20% the base percentage (10% becomes 12%) to get the item.

Then hopefully I can get all these quests I have done and rock my way to some of that expensive equipment we have.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 21, 2009, 03:04:08 PM
Lv. 35 TONIGHT! Got two saddles in a 2 hour period at 8% each. I wonder if the bonus for adventurer is +20% to get the product or +20% the base percentage (10% becomes 12%) to get the item.

+20% of the base percentage, sadly.  It must be, or that damn flag quest would have gone a lot faster.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 21, 2009, 03:04:57 PM
I just donated 500 bucks. I haven't got enough energy to build but you guys are better at it than me anyway.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Sutro on April 21, 2009, 04:14:35 PM
I've actually had really good luck with the saddle thing; I think we swapped karma on that one, Lore, since I was hosed so bad for so long on the effin flag.

(btw, don't sell them all.)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 21, 2009, 04:30:32 PM
Bastard! Good thing I haven't sold those saddles yet though I sold some before.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 21, 2009, 05:35:59 PM
Has anyone looked at the map near town?  There are like dozens of noob characters running around. 

Is this some kind of bait or something? 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 21, 2009, 05:39:23 PM
No, the account creation sprays characters in clusters over the map - the new character spray is just doing a pass near us.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 21, 2009, 05:41:22 PM
Oh god! THE NEWBS! THEY'RE COMING!  :ye_gods:

I think the east side of the game is filling up to the point that the center areas are getting newbies now. We're going to see a rise in the number of player created towns in the area. Eventually it'll move to the west. When I started on World 7 (active for several months), I was started on the far west side of the world.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 21, 2009, 07:09:17 PM
Lv. 35 brought me the God-Hand Whip (Fucking DOUBLE my previous damage), massive amounts of free XP, and lots of money. Now I just gotta run three grids away (with 206% speed) to do more quests.

Also, there is a quest named "Holy shit". Awesome.

I'm ready to duel me some Copper mother fuckers. Just call me Dr. Jones.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 21, 2009, 07:11:19 PM
Ya i saw that whip on somebody when i was like level 10 so awesome. On a sidenote I miscalculated and sold my weapon thinking i would have enough to purchase an upgrade, but i didn't so was weaponless when i got dueled by emsalee. Yet i still prevailed! TAKE THAT!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 21, 2009, 08:01:18 PM
lol?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 01:49:34 AM
Profitable trip to Copper Creek, and only one Copper at BC to impede my safe way home.   :drill:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 22, 2009, 01:57:24 AM
My protection is up. If I can attack their high level guys, I'll go and see what I can make happen. Mr. Whip wants to say hi.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on April 22, 2009, 02:21:30 AM
Mine's also up.  Currently fitfully sleeping.  Give me a target in the next 10 minutes and I'll strike.  Otherwise, I have to go out for dinner and I'll delay my deliverance of suffering for a few hours.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: rk47 on April 22, 2009, 02:43:50 AM
hmm I'm kinda wary about taking dueling quests after losing $350 to NPC quest. Perhaps I should pump my shooting skills before attempting it again? I'm only level 14 at the moment.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 22, 2009, 02:51:40 AM
Just keep an eye on your hit points so you don't accidentally kill yourself. The NPC doesn't change his attacks or defenses so you should be able to win a fight eventually just by adjusting yours.

Edit: Make sure you hit Refresh after each duel. For a lot of people hit points don't change properly unless you do.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Falconeer on April 22, 2009, 03:13:31 AM
<--- Noob!

I can't see the bank once in town. Where is it?!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: K9 on April 22, 2009, 03:39:21 AM
It's behind the town-info spash screen on the left. Cancel the thing with the f13 flag and you'll see the bank and the church.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Falconeer on April 22, 2009, 03:52:21 AM
...

 :ye_gods:


Donated my dollars to Bat Country as a self-punishment for noobness.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 22, 2009, 07:56:38 AM
I can't see the bank once in town. Where is it?!

Thank you.  I got mocked in chat for saying the exact same thing.  Now I don't feel as badly about it. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: K9 on April 22, 2009, 08:06:02 AM
Took me about a week to figure where the bank and church were too myself, the town popup is terribly placed.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 22, 2009, 08:25:53 AM
Quote
DirtyBirdy    Today at 15:09
Hey tough guy,

Do you feel better attacking a builder? Don't you think it's time to let it go? Either that or why not use the 12 minutes a day you are awake attacking someone for more experience?

DirtyBirdy    Today at 15:26
lol...see you got knocked out. I guess you picked on the wrong player...good stuff.

Hlem    Today at 15:48
I am tempted to ignore you, but your message makes me feel better about my loss. :-)

Hlem     Today at 15:52
Oh, and I saw that I took down 400 of your health. I would not try to build anything in the near future, you might get attacked again.

Yes, I am nice like that.

I hope this will actually stop him from starting to build again.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 22, 2009, 08:42:50 AM
It's amazing that these people haven't figured out that there is literally nothing at all they can do now to make us stop attacking them. They've shown that ceasefires and truces are meaningless because they can't be trusted. Why on earth would we ever stop attacking?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 22, 2009, 08:48:51 AM
We'll stop attacking eventually. Either they will ragequit and we'll be having those sweet ghost towns or we'll get bored of the game and yawnquit or we'll see the shiny of a new server where we can remake these characters forearmed with understanding of how the game plays. However, in the short term, there's always somewhere for our combatants to do some shanking or pop a few caps. Bonus.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 22, 2009, 08:55:59 AM
They seem to be using Hlem's strategy of taking my hitpoints down low without knocking me out.

I'm sure I can manage to knock myself out somehow.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 22, 2009, 08:56:56 AM
They aren't doing it on purpose, they just suck.  :awesome_for_real:

edit: Remember - knocking yourself out doesn't give you 48 hours of immunity.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 09:24:23 AM
Hello,

Nice reading.

First of all let me just say that I am really a nice guy, a gamer for the most part...apparently not as technically gifted as some of you, more of a player then anything else.  I understand that trash talking is juvenile, it's just fun.  I prefer a peaceful existence to anything else.  I have tried several different character classes, and different strategies to the game, and have come up with a decent understanding of what works and what doesn't.  And I think that we've gotten off to a bad start, in terms of our relationship with each other.  I understand that by coming to your 'turf' I stand to be ridiculed, pwned, owned, and violated in several different ways...but I felt that there should be some type of reasonable communication between our towns/communities.

As a 'pure' builder I have no means of defending myself, so I am forced to rely on the soldiers and duelers of my town to help in this regard.  Obviously by now some of you have figured out that specializing your character is the key to building a good character...it took me a few levels and testing different characters to figure it out myself.

The truth of the matter is that by knocking out builders you are actually working backwards.  In the sense that you give them 48hrs free reign to build in town, work their jobs(usually higher paying and giving more experience then other classes), where as if you are to knock out a soldier or a dueler you affect them considerably more.  What I mean is that true solders and duelers have access to the lower echelon of jobs, and tend to only make money and experience from dueling...so by knocking them out for 48hrs you restrict their ability to grow their character.  Or at least that is the theory.  Furthermore, by comparison fighting builders gives you much less experience, relative to what you would earn by fighting someone within range of your character.

That all being said, a continued conflict will not benefit either of us.  You'll attack us, we'll attack you...in the end the money lost will likely be about even.  Our town will stay larger then yours and we'll complete the build sooner...does that mean we win?  No.  After we complete our existing towns we'll likely start another, and another and so on, to help grow our community of players.  We'll continue to develop relationships with other towns, get in minor scuffles and the like, as that is the nature of the game.  In the end, the conflict between our towns can only end in a stalemate.  We've proven our ability as fighters, and you've proven your ability as tacticians...time to move on.

For the record, I am an adult player...and I apologize for the insults that I have sent some of you..or most of you:)  I am sure that you don't really smell like dirty diapers...well possibly with the exception of Hlem;).   

So...where do we go from here?  I suppose you could consider this an overture of peace from me.  Should you choose to accept it, I believe that we'll be able to nurture a mutually beneficial relationship in the not so distant future.  I will leave it up to y'all to figure out from here.

Cheers.
DB

PS - the spell check feature is a nice touch:)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 09:27:26 AM
 :oh_i_see:

I think that would have been a great post to make sometime before the last two truces that your side violated shortly after they were established.  At this point overtures of peace from the Copper collective come off a bit... hollow.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 09:35:56 AM
Touche.

The reality of the situation is that regardless of what type of agreement is put in place there will be suspicions on both sides, as you are not innocent in this either.  Since this overture is coming directly from me, you would have my word that it would be upheld.  For the record I never agreed to any previous ceasefire or alliance.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 09:37:00 AM
Beg


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 09:38:49 AM
Beg

I didn't come here to beg for anything, only to show you that I am a reasonable person.  I have offered you what I feel would be in the best interest of both towns, nothing more, nothing less.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 22, 2009, 09:42:24 AM
And which one of you speaks for the Coppers?

We heard the same lines from Whitebrit.  See how well that worked out?



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 09:45:53 AM
And which one of you speaks for the Coppers?

We heard the same lines from Whitebrit.  See how well that worked out?



I have the final say in all things regarding the town's.  Previously WhiteBrit had agreed to a truce with false intentions, I am not that type of player.  What you see is what you get. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 22, 2009, 09:47:16 AM
He said that too.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 09:49:38 AM
He said that too.

He shouldn't have.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 22, 2009, 09:51:31 AM
Where's the Ackbar pic?  A few pages back or so?  We need it again.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 09:53:13 AM
I have the final say in all things regarding the town's.  Previously WhiteBrit had agreed to a truce with false intentions, I am not that type of player.  What you see is what you get. 

So when you planned a false truce with the intentions of organizing an attack during that time. And posted "Operation Batnap" on your forums that was an illusion?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 22, 2009, 09:54:18 AM
That sounds more like your problem than ours.  As it stands we have no reason to believe anything Coppers put on the table.  If you allowed someone with no honest intentions to negotiate you are going to have to pay the price.  You could clean house or turn against them.  Hell, this may not even really be Dirtybirdy.  Lorekeep will have final say on anything we do.  Right now we have no real reason to stop.  We are not playing this game for the same reasons you are.  


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 09:55:43 AM
I did not agree to a truce prior to posting anything in the forums.  Lorekeep can atest to that via the message received around that time.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 09:57:17 AM
I did not agree to a truce prior to posting anything in the forums.  Lorekeep can atest to that via the message received around that time.

You just claimed to be responsible for both towns. Are you responsible for both towns or are you not?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 10:01:24 AM
That sounds more like your problem than ours.  As it stands we have no reason to believe anything Coppers put on the table.  If you allowed someone with no honest intentions to negotiate you are going to have to pay the price.  You could clean house or turn against them.  Hell, this may not even really be Dirtybirdy.  Lorekeep will have final say on anything we do.  Right now we have no real reason to stop.  We are not playing this game for the same reasons you are.  

This is the real DB, I suppose there isn't anyway of really proving that to you...  

As far as paying the price is concerned,  both sides are paying the price for it.  The best reason for you to stop is to keep your players from getting knocked out consistently, as they are now.  

I will assume that you are playing this game for fun, which is the same reason I play it...if you aren't then I suppose I missed the mark completely.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 10:03:34 AM
We have no problem with the current situation you are attempting to broker a truce after showing repeatedly you are not trustworthy. You claim to have authority over both towns yet deny responsibility for their actions that you actively supported.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 10:04:02 AM
I did not agree to a truce prior to posting anything in the forums.  Lorekeep can atest to that via the message received around that time.

You just claimed to be responsible for both towns. Are you responsible for both towns or are you not?

I am.  WhiteBrit agreed to the original offering without my knowledge, when I learned of what was tabled I messaged Lorekeep with my thoughts on the matter...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 22, 2009, 10:04:18 AM
Not good enough.  If you want us to stop you must motivate us with something we care about.  


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 10:06:04 AM
I am.  WhiteBrit agreed to the original offering without my knowledge, when I learned of what was tabled I messaged Lorekeep with my thoughts on the matter...

So what are you offering to make amends for your admitted deceptive and grimy actions?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 10:07:43 AM
What you care about?  Feathery pillows and chocolate candy?  The offer is there, take it or leave it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 10:09:19 AM
So you are offering nothing.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 10:09:36 AM
I am.  WhiteBrit agreed to the original offering without my knowledge, when I learned of what was tabled I messaged Lorekeep with my thoughts on the matter...

So what are you offering to make amends for your admitted deceptive and grimy actions?

You are not in any position to speak of deceptive actions?  uh...'Fell'...?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 22, 2009, 10:11:31 AM
What you care about?  Feathery pillows and chocolate candy?  The offer is there, take it or leave it.

Hookers. And blow.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 10:12:08 AM
Im not asking you for anything. You came here seeking a truce. Offering nothing and have demonstrated that you are not trustworthy. What possible motivation would we have to deal with you?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 10:12:51 AM
So you are offering nothing.

The offer is the beginning of peaceful relations.  We would have to start somewhere.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 10:14:02 AM
Tribute is a good place to start.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 10:16:21 AM
Im not asking you for anything. You came here seeking a truce. Offering nothing and have demonstrated that you are not trustworthy. What possible motivation would we have to deal with you?

I have not demonstrated that I am not trustworthy in the slightest.  I made my intentions clear to your leadership from the beginning.  As I said, a truce/ceasefire benefits your town as well as ours, which should be motivation enough.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 22, 2009, 10:18:25 AM
I have not demonstrated that I am not trustworthy in the slightest.  I made my intentions clear to your leadership from the beginning.  As I said, a truce/ceasefire benefits your town as well as ours, which should be motivation enough.

I don't think you understand.

We don't *want* a truce/ceasefire. We are perfectly happy with how things are today.

You will have to convince us that a truce/ceasefire would be more interesting for us.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 22, 2009, 10:21:15 AM
He'll primarily have to convince Lorekeep, but this may give an indication of what Lorekeep's hearing from the peasants. :)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 10:24:17 AM
I would have thought that knocking everyone in your town out twice over, if not more would have been enough to convince you.  But that isn't the case...you are certainly stubborn.

I have made the offer, your choice as to whether you accept it or not.  In the end you will think that you won, and we'll think the samething..we'll have you knocked out time and again, you'll do the same to a certain degree.  



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 10:25:29 AM
I have not demonstrated that I am not trustworthy in the slightest.  I made my intentions clear to your leadership from the beginning.  As I said, a truce/ceasefire benefits your town as well as ours, which should be motivation enough.

Negotiation 101. You desire something (a truce). We are perfectly happy with the current situation. What are you offering us to get what you want? We dont like you. You have verbally and sexually assaulted our members in your thread. We suspect you may be a pedophile of some type. You are dishonest. It would probably be best to directly speak to Lorekeep.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 22, 2009, 10:31:34 AM
Lorekeep is out lord and master of the west, talk to him, and only him. No one else has any authority.

Also, Benedict Arnold (Copper Springs), just tried to KO me, a builder.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 10:31:45 AM
I have not demonstrated that I am not trustworthy in the slightest.  I made my intentions clear to your leadership from the beginning.  As I said, a truce/ceasefire benefits your town as well as ours, which should be motivation enough.

Negotiation 101. You desire something (a truce). We are perfectly happy with the current situation. What are you offering us to get what you want? We dont like you. You have verbally and sexually assaulted our members in your thread. We suspect you may be a pedophile of some type. You are dishonest. It would probably be best to directly speak to Lorekeep.

Point of fact dilly pickle:
1)  I am not a pedophile.
2) I have never lied, or been dishonest with anyone here.  You were the one that joined my town under false pretenses.
3) I don't like you either.
4) I have already apologized for what I had sent to you/your members previously.





Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 22, 2009, 10:38:31 AM
Oh hay, no worry about being banned from The West and the West Forums!

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Your words are glib and meaningless since any kind of trust with the Coppers was nuked some time ago.  As I quote the first thing you said to me:

Quote
"The simple fact of the matter is that your members attacked us, specifically our builders. So we took that as an invitation for war...a war in which you have no chance of winning. We have obliged your fighters and have done our part in ensuring a steady stream of knock outs on your end."

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Keep in mind that there will be no further relationship between our towns, I would only agree to down grade you from priority target to neutral...meaning that only your duelers and soldiers would be fought through the natural progression of game play.

You didn't put any recognition about the political situation going on with Copper Creek. That, and you don't give a FLYING SHIT about us. All you wanted to do is whip your dick out and rub it all over our faces like High Lander and your ilk before you.

You want a truce?  I was naive before, but I've learned from the wisdom of Eric Schild. Abandon one of your towns and give it to us. Delete your character, Cody McGyver, High Lander, and WhiteBrit. Then we'll fucking know you're serious. That's the only permanent action that is going to register something from Bat Country.

Actually, if we could get an apology for our mule, that would be great too.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 22, 2009, 11:10:18 AM
Lorekeep is out lord and master of the west, talk to him, and only him. No one else has any authority.

Also, Benedict Arnold (Copper Springs), just tried to KO me, a builder.

As far as I can tell, builders have never, ever been off limits to the Coppers.  I don't care; it gives me 48 hours of peace, as you point out.

So we're supposed to trust you now, despite the fact that every deal that's been made so far has been violated by you, and the fact that you've been planning to offer us a fake truce?

I don't think so.

I am enjoying the game immensely now - why would we want to stop?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 11:13:09 AM
Oh hay, no worry about being banned from The West and the West Forums!

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Your words are glib and meaningless since any kind of trust with the Coppers was nuked some time ago.  As I quote the first thing you said to me:

Quote
"The simple fact of the matter is that your members attacked us, specifically our builders. So we took that as an invitation for war...a war in which you have no chance of winning. We have obliged your fighters and have done our part in ensuring a steady stream of knock outs on your end."

Quote
Keep in mind that there will be no further relationship between our towns, I would only agree to down grade you from priority target to neutral...meaning that only your duelers and soldiers would be fought through the natural progression of game play.

You didn't put any recognition about the political situation going on with Copper Creek. That, and you don't give a FLYING SHIT about us. All you wanted to do is whip your dick out and rub it all over our faces like High Lander and your ilk before you.

You want a truce?  I was naive before, but I've learned from the wisdom of Eric Schild. Abandon one of your towns and give it to us. Delete your character, Cody McGyver, High Lander, and WhiteBrit. Then we'll fucking know you're serious. That's the only permanent action that is going to register something from Bat Country.

Actually, if we could get an apology for our mule, that would be great too.

LMAO:)

We have consistently knocked out your duelers/soldiers...and pretty much everyone else in your town.  All I wanted to do was get past this and move on peacefully.  Apparently that is not going to happen.  

So...we are back to name calling...good stuff.

xoxoxoxoxo

Cheers.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 11:15:06 AM
Then why are you here sniveling for a truce? You are not very good at begging at all.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Pezzle on April 22, 2009, 11:17:07 AM
The only person here that cares about knockouts is you.  YOUR PRECIOUS K/D RATIO BACKBONE.  We do not care, it is obviously hurting you more than it is us.  You either make concessions or burn. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 11:19:01 AM
Lorekeep is out lord and master of the west, talk to him, and only him. No one else has any authority.

Also, Benedict Arnold (Copper Springs), just tried to KO me, a builder.

As far as I can tell, builders have never, ever been off limits to the Coppers.  I don't care; it gives me 48 hours of peace, as you point out.

So we're supposed to trust you now, despite the fact that every deal that's been made so far has been violated by you, and the fact that you've been planning to offer us a fake truce?

I don't think so.

I am enjoying the game immensely now - why would we want to stop?

There has never been a truce agreed to between Copper Springs and Bat Country...so there was never any violations.  You are a funny group...maybe too much caffine or something...what are you gaining by persisting in this manner?  The ability to get knocked the fuck out every 48hrs, and that's about it.

I have always enjoyed this game...and that's why I play.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 11:24:08 AM
The only person here that cares about knockouts is you.  YOUR PRECIOUS K/D RATIO BACKBONE.  We do not care, it is obviously hurting you more than it is us.  You either make concessions or burn. 

No concessions will be made.  The offer is on the table, when you decide to get your heads out of your asses feel free to message me.  Until then...good luck.

Cheers.
DB


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 22, 2009, 11:26:20 AM
Again, there is no offer.

An offer implies that you give us something in exchange for us stopping.

You haven't offered us anything.

Therefore, there is no offer.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 22, 2009, 11:29:00 AM
We've already established that DirtyBirdy is delusional. I don't know why you're giving him any credit for having a logical thought.

Note once we blew away his facade of amicability that he returned to form.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 22, 2009, 11:38:17 AM
I'm normally all in favour of diplomacy but the Coppers have shown themselves to be totally untrustworthy. The war is obviously bothering them far more than it is us so I see no reason ever to stop attacking them. We're doing a service to all the smaller towns in our area by doing it too. The Coppers probably don't have time to do their normal routine of bullying smaller towns anymore.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 11:45:22 AM
Lorekeep you rebuffed the overture outright,  I don't belive that I have sworn at you today, or posted an otherwise demeaning remark about you here.  So I fail to see where the facade of amicability has been blown away...as opposed to your very poetic quote "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on...".

The offer that is tabled is simple, we stop, you stop...otherwise known as a ceasefire.  I don't know where you think that we should have to offer you anything more then that.

Cheers.





Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 11:59:01 AM
I have not sworn at or betrayed you TODAY! I have also abstained from making blatantly pedophilia related comments. Please take me seriously.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 22, 2009, 12:01:51 PM
OH GOD I LOVE THIS GAME

CRY TO GM'S.  CRY TO US FOR PEACE.  WHAT THE FUCK DID I TELL YOU?  CRY MORE NOOB. 

I WILL QUOTE MY MESSAGE TO YOU.

Quote from: Gyoza
'YOU WILL SUE FOR PEACE.' 

AND HERE YOU ARE, FILING THE SUIT.

Quote from: DirtyBirdy
...and by sue for peace you mean keep on kicking your butts.

SOUND FAMILIAR, ASSHOLE?

ALSO

Don't think you can get out of this by giving us your shitty noob town, either.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 22, 2009, 12:02:55 PM
It's time to be serious.  TEH WEST IS AT STEAK!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 12:04:44 PM
I have not sworn at or betrayed you TODAY! I have also abstained from making blatantly pedophilia related comments. Please take me seriously.  :uhrr:

I don't recall making any comments that were blatantly pedophilic in nature.  I have the answer from your "leader".  That's what I came here for.  I will just stick around and chit chat with ya's now.

So...how is everybody doing?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 22, 2009, 12:06:08 PM
So...how is everybody doing?

I'm lovely.  Thanks for asking!   :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 12:09:46 PM
OH GOD I LOVE THIS GAME

CRY TO GM'S.  CRY TO US FOR PEACE.  WHAT THE FUCK DID I TELL YOU?  CRY MORE NOOB. 

I WILL QUOTE MY MESSAGE TO YOU.

Quote from: Gyoza
'YOU WILL SUE FOR PEACE.' 

AND HERE YOU ARE, FILING THE SUIT.

Quote from: DirtyBirdy
...and by sue for peace you mean keep on kicking your butts.

SOUND FAMILIAR, ASSHOLE?

ALSO

Don't think you can get out of this by giving us your shitty noob town, either.

hmm...I see 4 more members of your town are enjoying 48hrs sabbaticals courtesy of your friends in Copper Springs.   But you guys are doing great!  Positive reinforcement can work wonders, especially for you 'slower' people like my friend gyoza...who has taken his name from the Chinese phrase meaning "really small wiener".


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 22, 2009, 12:10:55 PM
You ask for a ceasefire and then poke people? 

Are you bipolar?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 12:11:47 PM
Thread continues to deliver.   :awesome_for_real:

I was going to post saying that (speaking for myself only) I might be okay with a truce with Copper Springs, and Copper Springs only, operating on the assumption that Copper Springs and Copper Creek are two different entities, and our beef is primarily with Creek.

But (A) I'm obviously more leniently-minded than the rest of the crew here and (B) DB seems really shifty about the extent to which he speaks for Creek or Creek speaks for him.  Also, I'm pretty sure after his last few posts that he had help writing the first one.  So fuggit.

Also,  :pedobear:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 22, 2009, 12:12:37 PM
oh man i just woke up

I need to go look at a car, but man, mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, I need to read this stuff when I get back.

Don't chase away the swine before I get back.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 12:14:24 PM
lol...no help dude.  That was before lorekeep said his thing.

Your team opted for continued hostilities, not me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 12:17:23 PM
oh man i just woke up

I need to go look at a car, but man, mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn, I need to read this stuff when I get back.

Don't chase away the swine before I get back.

I will be around for you guys to pick on, no worries.  I like the digs...not too shabby.

I am not really a swine though.

Hope you are thinking about choosing a green friendly car...afterall it is Earth Day...would be kinda silly to buy a huge v8 or something on today of all days. 

Happy Earth Day everyone!  Love a tree...but not too much or else you will get arrested:P


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 22, 2009, 12:18:47 PM
 :popcorn:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 22, 2009, 12:20:11 PM
lol...no help dude.  That was before lorekeep said his thing.

Your team opted for continued hostilities, not me.

Uhh.  No?  Everyone can read, dude.  That's not what just happened.

I'll summarize. You said, "Please stop squashing us?"

We replied, "Or what?"

You said, "Or nothing?"

We said, "OH LOL."


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 12:21:56 PM
I wonder if this is the way diplomacy is carried out around the world. It would explain so much.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 22, 2009, 12:24:30 PM
Here's what I don't understand:  People sign up for a pvp game and then complain when they experience conflict. 

Isn't conflict the point of PvP? 

Oh... it isn't the kind of conflict that they wanted... I think I'm on to something here. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 12:25:32 PM
lol...no help dude.  That was before lorekeep said his thing.

Your team opted for continued hostilities, not me.

Uhh.  No? 

Uhhh...yeah.

As 1 tree said to another...you are getting a little too sappy for me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 12:26:38 PM
Here's what I don't understand:  People sign up for a pvp game and then complain when they experience conflict. 

Isn't conflict the point of PvP? 

Oh... it isn't the kind of conflict that they wanted... I think I'm on to something here. 

People like claiming to play a pvp game more so than actively engaging in pvp.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 12:30:57 PM
Oh, come on, we've had THIS conversation before and I don't think we need to have it again for DB's benefit.  Most people sign up for PvP games because they want to be wolves, then they whine when it turns out they're really the sheep.

Then there are those who just want to see the world burn.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 12:34:54 PM
Oh, come on, we've had THIS conversation before and I don't think we need to have it again for DB's benefit.  Most people sign up for PvP games because they want to be wolves, then they whine when it turns out they're really the sheep.

Then there are those who just want to see the world burn.   :why_so_serious:

I signed up because I was bored playing TW.  If I wanted to be a wolf I would be a soldier/dueler...but I chose a worker in order to help my town the best way possible...which is pure construction.  No wolf here...just a sheep waiting to be shorn:P


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 22, 2009, 12:39:16 PM
lol...no help dude.  That was before lorekeep said his thing.

Your team opted for continued hostilities, not me.

Uhh.  No? 

Uhhh...yeah.

As 1 tree said to another...you are getting a little too sappy for me.


(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/963220/1235332240444.gif)

Out ninjaed twice schild.  Hope that car was worth it.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 22, 2009, 01:03:47 PM
Summary of DB:

I'm not a liar, I just can't control my own people.  Although you all don't want a ceasefire, I do.  How about I give you nothing for one?  :roll:



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 22, 2009, 01:06:52 PM
I was going to post saying that (speaking for myself only) I might be okay with a truce with Copper Springs, and Copper Springs only, operating on the assumption that Copper Springs and Copper Creek are two different entities, and our beef is primarily with Creek.

But (A) I'm obviously more leniently-minded than the rest of the crew here and (B) DB seems really shifty about the extent to which he speaks for Creek or Creek speaks for him.  Also, I'm pretty sure after his last few posts that he had help writing the first one.  So fuggit.

Copper Springs and Creek are one in the same. I used to be more lenient, but DB and Whitebrit have shown me the error of my ways. The only true peace is when everyone you oppose is dead.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 01:09:49 PM
Copper Springs and Creek are one in the same.

Don't make me get the grammar rattlesnake, hombre.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 22, 2009, 01:11:24 PM
Eeps.

Is it one and the same? I type stuff sometimes how I hear it in my head.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 01:11:49 PM
YES. (http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/oneinsame.html)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 22, 2009, 01:13:38 PM
I'm level 10 now and have $$ and will need an invite.  Shunned.  Soldier so war is good.  A truce would be bad for me!  Or was that truths?  

Righ has kept me up to date on the state of the strange little war we're having and it doesn't appear to me that DirtyBirdy is being truceful.  I mean truthful.  Considering past behaviour and those crazy, kind of creepy messages Righ gets from the Copper-thingy people, I don't really believe all this.  I love all the PvP trash talk thoughh, especially late at night after my mind is gone and Righ reads it out loud to me.  Every now and then I laugh so hard I have to run for the bathroom!  Dammit.  

No worries, DirtyBirdy, I'm sure you're not really a plonker.  Happy Earth Day to you!  (http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs15/f/2007/071/6/0/Bliss_by_NaturallyPerfect.gif)  

PS  Are you the same Dirty Birdy from the Kama Sutra?  If yes:

HI!
 



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 01:17:59 PM
I was going to post saying that (speaking for myself only) I might be okay with a truce with Copper Springs, and Copper Springs only, operating on the assumption that Copper Springs and Copper Creek are two different entities, and our beef is primarily with Creek.

But (A) I'm obviously more leniently-minded than the rest of the crew here and (B) DB seems really shifty about the extent to which he speaks for Creek or Creek speaks for him.  Also, I'm pretty sure after his last few posts that he had help writing the first one.  So fuggit.

Copper Springs and Creek are one in the same. I used to be more lenient, but DB and Whitebrit have shown me the error of my ways. The only true peace is when everyone you oppose is dead.

There is no 'dead' in this game pumpkin, only ko'd.  But I am sure you are already well familiar with that concept.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 22, 2009, 01:18:07 PM
We're going to need a residence upgrade...


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 22, 2009, 01:23:52 PM
I approve of the progression from pre-west Lorekeep to today's Lorekeep.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 01:23:56 PM
We're going to need a residence upgrade...

Would you like us to lend you a few builders to help with that?  


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 01:25:53 PM
We're going to need a residence upgrade...

Would you like us to lend you a few builders to help with that?  

I'm bringing back bits and pieces from Copper Creek every 48 hours or so.  In another few weeks I ought to have a complete set!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 22, 2009, 01:26:15 PM
There is no 'dead' in this game pumpkin, only ko'd.  But I am sure you are already well familiar with that concept.

 :uhrr:

I like how I make a big point, he takes it, dials it down to the point where its stupidly relevant to his individual situation but loses all its dramatic impact, then expects me to care when he regurgitates it back at me with all the finesse of a teenager masturbating for the first time.

Pumpkin? Maybe these guys aren't 12 to 14 year old brats with crappy parents but 50 - 60 year old housewives whose husbands don't fuck them anymore because they've got a hot mistress on the side.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 22, 2009, 01:28:43 PM
Hey!  No dissing housewives!  Anyway, if they were really a whole town of just housewives, I'd probably consider joining.  I mean, seriously - how cool would that be?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 01:30:32 PM
My theory back when he wrote that first cogent and polite post was that he got his mom to write it for him.  Maybe they're alternating now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Phildo on April 22, 2009, 01:30:41 PM
This guy has 26 posts in one day.  Never stop F5-ing, buddy!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 22, 2009, 01:31:37 PM
Hey!  No dissing housewives!  Anyway, if they were really a whole town of just housewives, I'd probably consider joining.  I mean, seriously - how cool would that be?

If it were true, they'd have killed us already.  Twice over, perhaps.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 01:32:13 PM
There is no 'dead' in this game pumpkin, only ko'd.  But I am sure you are already well familiar with that concept.

 :uhrr:

I like how I make a big point, he takes it, dials it down to the point where its stupidly relevant to his individual situation but loses all its dramatic impact, then expects me to care when he regurgitates it back at me with all the finesse of a teenager masturbating for the first time.

Pumpkin? Maybe these guys aren't 12 to 14 year old brats with crappy parents but 50 - 60 year old housewives whose husbands don't fuck them anymore because they've got a hot mistress on the side.

You know what happens when you make assumptions don't you pumpkin?  You make an ass of u and me:P  

This thread is much better then the one I started on the forums...really showcasing your talents there nipple nuts.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 22, 2009, 01:34:27 PM


This thread is much better then the one I started on the forums...

Correct.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 22, 2009, 01:37:22 PM
You know what happens when you make assumptions don't you pumpkin?  You make an ass of u and me:P  

This thread is much better then the one I started on the forums...really showcasing your talents there nipple nuts.

I find it difficult to believe you actually want a ceasefire.  Nobody making a sincere peace overture would post something that juvenile.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 01:40:06 PM
I think we've firmly established that when this group asks for a "ceasefire" under any terms, it just means they want us to stop beating on them for the day or so it takes for us to satisfy ourselves that they didn't mean it this time either.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 01:40:37 PM


This thread is much better then the one I started on the forums...

Correct.

Thanks cutie!

You know what happens when you make assumptions don't you pumpkin?  You make an ass of u and me:P  

This thread is much better then the one I started on the forums...really showcasing your talents there nipple nuts.

I find it difficult to believe you actually want a ceasefire.  Nobody making a sincere peace overture would post something that juvenile.

That was sincerely my intentions when I posted the original post, but since your leadership responded negatively to the overture...we find ourselves no closer to resolving the matter.  Funny you call me juvenile for posting something like that but completely overlook the fact that it's in response to what has previously been directed at me.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Prospero on April 22, 2009, 01:43:39 PM
Nipple nuts? Really? That's the best you've got? You get a couple points for alliteration, but I'm sure you can do better.

D+


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 22, 2009, 01:46:08 PM
Where is executor? I think he's far more representative of the Coppers than this DirtyBirdy creature.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 22, 2009, 01:51:10 PM


You know what happens when you make assumptions don't you pumpkin?  You make an ass of u and me:P  



That's sig worthy.  There's no e is assumptions, jackhole. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 01:53:08 PM
NEED BUFORD TANNEN GRIEF AVATARD STAT.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 22, 2009, 01:55:22 PM
Pumpkin, cutie, nipple nuts? Should we ask the GMs to check whether DirtyBirdy and Shotgun Joan Collins are the same player? Maybe DirtyBirdy just loaned Joan his f13 account.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 01:57:31 PM
Pumpkin, cutie, nipple nuts? Should we ask the GMs to check whether DirtyBirdy and Shotgun Joan Collins are the same player? Maybe DirtyBirdy just loaned Joan his f13 account.

I just opened this account this morning...and have been enjoying the ride ever since:)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 02:08:25 PM
Enjoy the rest of your Earth Day everyone!

And stay gold ponyboy...stay gold.

Cheers.
DB


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 02:10:20 PM
Cheers.
DB

 :ye_gods:

(http://retrocrush.buzznet.com/scary/bodysnatch2.jpg)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 22, 2009, 02:11:52 PM
How overly inflated must your ego be to make a post on a fucking forum indicating when you aren't monitoring it anymore? Like you're a celebrity of the internet and the crowd is agasp at your every data movement.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Righ on April 22, 2009, 02:13:07 PM
I'm fully expecting his signature to include "bring the noise" any post now.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 22, 2009, 02:15:01 PM
It takes six of your people to knock me out (as they just tried), all over my level by quite a degree.

I'm a builder.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 02:15:13 PM
He used an outsiders reference. :uhrr:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 22, 2009, 02:16:27 PM
NEED BUFORD TANNEN GRIEF AVATARD STAT.

(http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/ccarter/2005/07/25/back.jpg)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 22, 2009, 02:16:51 PM
They've been trying to kill me all day too. It's sad. I'm not even sneaking into the hotel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 02:18:52 PM
They have stopped even trying to attack me for some reason. Been sitting unprotected for 2 hours.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 22, 2009, 02:20:35 PM
Yeah.  I went out of my way to get KO'd today so I can finish up a couple of things by wearing non-dueling gear, working without breaks, etc and of the 7 attacks on me I won 3  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 22, 2009, 02:52:16 PM
schild is going to be upset he wasn't around for this.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 22, 2009, 03:02:46 PM
Nah, I'm sad I haven't found a car.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Xanthippe on April 22, 2009, 03:08:51 PM
Ride a bike for Earth Day.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 03:11:08 PM
How overly inflated must your ego be to make a post on a fucking forum indicating when you aren't monitoring it anymore? Like you're a celebrity of the internet and the crowd is agasp at your every data movement.

How is wishing everyone well considered an ego trip?  I wouldn't have thought anythiing of it until I read your post.  Sounds like you need to hug a tree, or roll around in some flowers....take the edge off a little.  Nice spring day...celebrate all things earthy!

Go green!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 22, 2009, 03:39:24 PM
I'm going to try and give the new guy the benefit of the doubt.  If he can drop the board warrior stuff, we may be able to work something out.  Of course, I'm nobody in this game... so what do I know? 

Maybe I can start playing the pvp game soon.  I'm a whopping level 8 now and I'm pk'ing bean fields!





Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 03:56:53 PM
I'm going to try and give the new guy the benefit of the doubt.  If he can drop the board warrior stuff, we may be able to work something out.  Of course, I'm nobody in this game... so what do I know? 

Maybe I can start playing the pvp game soon.  I'm a whopping level 8 now and I'm pk'ing bean fields!

You can start to battle at your level easy. You will also level far faster.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 03:58:59 PM
I recommend hiking north to Copper Cove and going to town.  If earlier examples of communication within the "Copper Co-op" are indicative, they don't even know they're in a war yet.   :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Prospero on April 22, 2009, 04:06:02 PM
yeah, they have a lot of folks that would be excellent XP for you.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 22, 2009, 04:53:02 PM
Why don't we have a new spy there yet? I miss the reposts of whiny messages from their forums.  :grin:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on April 22, 2009, 04:53:24 PM
If DirtyBirdy does an entertaining The West Radicalthon, all will be forgiven.

DB, it must drive you insane to be playing a smack-talking PVP game where the worst you can do to someone is make them invincible for 48 hours.  You'll notice that we invest an amount of care and trashtalk appropriate to such a system.  I recommend you try it.

(Except Musashi.  That guy's fucking crazy.  We can't control him. He's like a racecar in the red)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 22, 2009, 04:54:30 PM
3 page of trolling is enough for me.




Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 22, 2009, 05:18:55 PM
Why don't we have a new spy there yet? I miss the reposts of whiny messages from their forums.  :grin:

He just tried to infiltrage chatzy.

He was soundly drubbed.

Try harder next time.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 05:26:51 PM
If DirtyBirdy does an entertaining The West Radicalthon, all will be forgiven.

DB, it must drive you insane to be playing a smack-talking PVP game where the worst you can do to someone is make them invincible for 48 hours.  You'll notice that we invest an amount of care and trashtalk appropriate to such a system.  I recommend you try it.

(Except Musashi.  That guy's fucking crazy.  We can't control him. He's like a racecar in the red)

I like the smack talking...it makes me feel better since I can't really do anything about your attacks in game. 

What's 'chatzy' btw?

Also...Copper Cove was started by a member from w7...and isn't affiliated with our main towns.  In fact I have been waiting for it to go abandonded so I can take it over.  I don't think anyone in the town is active...but that seems like it would b right up your ally...attacking a defenceless town:P


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 22, 2009, 05:53:24 PM
You can do plenty about our attacks to make them stop. You just don't want to do them.

You have to have the most annoying avatar on this site. White on a black background.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 22, 2009, 05:57:58 PM
Quote
1.    nipple nuts    3 up, 9 down love it hate it
   
A term used by older men who were seemingly in the military at one point in their lives and now employ the term in degrading high school athletes. Being a combonation of the simple terms nipple and nuts, it's effectiveness is increased tenfold.
If you don't finish this lap in under ten seconds nipple nuts, i will run your weak body into the ground!

I learned something new on the internet!

Also, do we have high school athletes here?   :hello_thar:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Der Helm on April 22, 2009, 06:44:50 PM
Can we promote Signe to handle diplomatic relations ?

We will win the war in 1 week.  :why_so_serious:


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on April 22, 2009, 08:01:25 PM
White on a black background.

Quote
(http://forums.f13.net/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=4383;type=avatar)

I guess that's more mauve.

There's a terrible dearth of eyepatches in avatars.






Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 08:13:43 PM
Yar!


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 22, 2009, 08:14:18 PM
that's horrifying


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 08:19:01 PM
You can do plenty about our attacks to make them stop. You just don't want to do them.

You have to have the most annoying avatar on this site. White on a black background.

Glad you like it.  Anything I can do to help make you happier person, it really sounds like you need a little cheering up.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: sidereal on April 22, 2009, 08:31:40 PM
that's horrifying

is it now?

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9269/schildpatch.jpg)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 22, 2009, 08:41:35 PM
Changed avatars to something more suiting.

Also, Geronimo Jones should really consider getting more hit points before attacking someone. I just head-shotted him into Oblivion, so that's one less dueler attacking us.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 22, 2009, 08:49:51 PM
He attacked me a few times lost then stopped trying.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 22, 2009, 09:05:29 PM
You gotta put an eyepatch on clint LK, in keeping with the trend.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 09:17:15 PM
Changed avatars to something more suiting.

Also, Geronimo Jones should really consider getting more hit points before attacking someone. I just head-shotted him into Oblivion, so that's one less dueler attacking us.

Yep...11 levels difference and yet you brag about putting a beating on him, seems to be par for the course around here...sounds like you haven't gotten your hug yet today LK...

:)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 22, 2009, 09:18:45 PM
Sounds to me like your guys are the ones who don't understand how this works. Attacking someone 10 levels above you, even a builder, probably will likely cause you to lose. Don't pay attention to what they have equipped? You deserve the KO.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 22, 2009, 09:22:43 PM
Sounds to me like your guys are the ones who don't understand how this works. Attacking someone 10 levels above you, even a builder, probably will likely cause you to lose. Don't pay attention to what they have equipped? You deserve the KO.

lol..gotta give him some credit..he went ballz out.  I applaud the effort. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Aez on April 22, 2009, 09:24:20 PM
Changed avatars to something more suiting.

Suiting enough?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Viin on April 22, 2009, 09:34:00 PM
Like this?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 22, 2009, 10:08:11 PM
And so on.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 22, 2009, 10:11:17 PM
I greatly look forward to a series of Coppers reading this 54-page thread trying to learn our secret strategies of frontier pwnage and having to wade through entire pages of stuff like us all putting eyepatches on our avatards and talking about them.

All we have to do is derail the thread into a discussion about how the criminalization of marijuana led to Trammel and they'll be getting the full F13 experience in condensed form.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 22, 2009, 11:32:48 PM
There may be like three or four of them reading this.  The rest are either out of his control, or don't care.  He clearly attempted to join us upon realization that beating us was un-possible (I fuckin' told you).  Then when it didn't work he returned to previous form, trying to win the internet in case his cronies did read it and see him as a man martyring himself upon our cross in a sad attempt at vainglorious board warrior savvy.  Won't work pal.  You're fucked.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 23, 2009, 12:16:33 AM
There may be like three or four of them reading this.  The rest are either out of his control, or don't care.  He clearly attempted to join us upon realization that beating us was un-possible (I fuckin' told you).  Then when it didn't work he returned to previous form, trying to win the internet in case his cronies did read it and see him as a man martyring himself upon our cross in a sad attempt at vainglorious board warrior savvy.  Won't work pal.  You're fucked.

lol...most of the members don't care.  But they like having targets, so there you have it.  I offered up an apology, and a truce...that is all...both were shunned.  And beating you isn't impossible...we've been at it for a few weeks now.  So dipshit...you need to re-think your theory.   


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 23, 2009, 12:18:11 AM
There may be like three or four of them reading this.  The rest are either out of his control, or don't care.  He clearly attempted to join us upon realization that beating us was un-possible (I fuckin' told you).  Then when it didn't work he returned to previous form, trying to win the internet in case his cronies did read it and see him as a man martyring himself upon our cross in a sad attempt at vainglorious board warrior savvy.  Won't work pal.  You're fucked.
lol...most of the members don't care.  But they like having targets, so there you have it.  I offered up an apology, and a truce...that is all...both were shunned.  And beating you isn't impossible...we've been at it for a few weeks now.  So dipshit...you need to re-think your theory.   
Are you writing in a yearbook?

Stop using ellipses.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 23, 2009, 03:37:38 AM
I don't know what happened but our Duel Difference even'd itself out pretty good. It might have to do with the Coppers not camping our town. Because they realize they can't win. *cue DirtyBirdy sniping*


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 23, 2009, 08:15:50 AM
You're right you win, you're the best. I will immediately change the name of my town, delete my character, and send out a mass message telling all of our allies that they should do the same.....or.................I won't do that.  We're a busy bunch of beavers is all, recruiting and building our town...perhaps we have forgotten about you guys?

We really have nothing left to prove to you, our mortician speaks for itself.

So have fun in the game and I wish you the best of luck.

Anyone else catch the Flames v Blackhawks last night?  Quite a game. 

PS - the eye patches are quite becoming.  Also, how do you guys edit the pics...photoshop?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 23, 2009, 09:09:55 AM
lol...most of the members don't care.  But they like having targets, so there you have it.  I offered up an apology, and a truce...that is all...both were shunned.  And beating you isn't impossible...we've been at it for a few weeks now.  So dipshit...you need to re-think your theory.   

Wait.  If they like targets, and we like playing this way - why do want a truce?  Doesn't this war make everyone happy?  If anyone plays this game long enough - it IS a browser game after all and I know eventually I'll wander off - eventually there will be other targets, different wars, etc.  Isn't that sort of the point of this game?  Or, in my n00biness, am I missing something?  I haven't really done anything much yet, even joining the town so I'm kind of not understanding why there's this much of a problem.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 23, 2009, 09:12:59 AM
He was irritated that we were attacking workers and not just the people he wanted us to attack.  So... he only likes pvp when it's played the way he wants it played. 

Yadda yadda yadda


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 23, 2009, 09:39:38 AM
He was irritated that we were attacking workers and not just the people he wanted us to attack.  So... he only likes pvp when it's played the way he wants it played. 

Yadda yadda yadda

You attacked our workers and we attacked yours...an endless cycle.  I just like to play, as I have stated before, and these little battles aren't good for characters not suited for fighting, such as builders, but we have more soldiers and duelers in town then builders so having open targets are a good thing in general, be it you or another town.

You've made it clear that there will be no truce, so we've accepted your decision.  The offer that was tendered was for the benefit of everyone involved, and I think most of you have failed to understand this.  It wasn't that we were begging for mercy or anything of the sort, we simply wanted to move on.  As noted in a previous post, we have nothing left to prove to you....we've beaten the best you have, and now we are continuing with our town the way our members wish to proceed. 

So again, I sincerely wish you the best within the game and enjoy it.  There are many good aspects to it.  With the pending upgrades the game will become even more interesting.  Forts will be rolled, and there will be even larger battles fought for the right to occupy those.  Our town(s) are thinking long term, I would urge you to do the same.

Cheers.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 23, 2009, 09:56:20 AM
So you are trying to convince us that its in our best interest to stop killing you? Brilliant.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Nebu on April 23, 2009, 10:16:30 AM
You've made it clear that there will be no truce, so we've accepted your decision. 

I haven't done anything.  I'm not leading this troop.  I'm not killing anyone.  I'm just enjoying the game. 

If you want to argue, take it to someone else.  This game is little more than background noise while I'm at work. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 23, 2009, 10:33:36 AM
Two questions:

1.  How did I win this duel when I was down by points at the end?
2.  How did I win against this overgeared Copper Creek goofball when I'm a pure trapper? lol

(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/201105/untitled.JPG)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: gryeyes on April 23, 2009, 10:35:37 AM
pretty sure 80>78


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 23, 2009, 10:38:21 AM
Durrrr...   :awesome_for_real:

I've always thought that was how much damage I did, not how much health I lost.  Obviously, I don't duel.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 23, 2009, 10:40:06 AM
Why do you keep calling it an offer when you didn't offer a damn thing?

He's just posting to be annoying, even if it's being illogical.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Musashi on April 23, 2009, 10:42:52 AM
Dude.  Eyepatch.  Stat.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Hawkbit on April 23, 2009, 10:47:19 AM
Srsly.  Even The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog has one these days. 


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 23, 2009, 11:10:06 AM
You and your weird pet names for my avatar.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 23, 2009, 11:11:03 AM
You and your weird pet names for my avatar.

Who is she BTW?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Samwise on April 23, 2009, 11:12:42 AM
No idea.  GIS a few years ago (when Signe had her own terrifying bunny avatard) for "bunny cleavage" or something along those lines.  I've tried and failed to find better, so at this point it's an Easter tradition.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 23, 2009, 11:14:01 AM
No idea.  GIS a few years ago (when Signe had her own terrifying bunny avatard) for "bunny cleavage" or something along those lines.  I've tried and failed to find better, so at this point it's an Easter tradition.

Good Tradition.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 23, 2009, 11:14:36 AM
Why do you keep calling it an offer when you didn't offer a damn thing?

He's just posting to be annoying, even if it's being illogical.

A ceasefire was tabled, that was the offer.  I would say that a logical 'offer' was made, in so much that we stop lighting you up and you stop annoying us.  Regardless, you've made it clear where you stand, and I believe I have made our stance clear as well.  So we move on...yet you persist...so we'll continue to oblige you.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 23, 2009, 11:29:30 AM
Maybe you don't get that you're the huge assholes that started all this and given us every reason to do this to you. You certainly don't care about that as much as we don't care you're knocking us out while we're annoying the shit out of you. I say you but it was really Copper Creek, but since you and Whitebrit share the same bed and are on the same page, there really is no difference anymore.

Honestly if you guys were just allies and didn't have this grand Copper Alliance, we would have left you the hell alone. So blame Copper Creek.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 23, 2009, 11:43:50 AM
Maybe you don't get that you're the huge assholes that started all this and given us every reason to do this to you. You certainly don't care about that as much as we don't care you're knocking us out while we're annoying the shit out of you. I say you but it was really Copper Creek, but since you and Whitebrit share the same bed and are on the same page, there really is no difference anymore.

Honestly if you guys were just allies and didn't have this grand Copper Alliance, we would have left you the hell alone. So blame Copper Creek.

So if you don't care, why play the game and respond with such verocity?  It's alright to admit that you do care.  I care that my members enjoy their gaming experience, as I think this game has lots to offer vs other browser based games that I have played.

And if you would have only retaliated against the offending member while sending me an explanation of what had transpired then we would have not reached this point.  Remember when you point 1 finger there are 3 pointing back at yourself.  I think we can agree it doesn't matter who started attacking who, so it's a moot point.  Cooler heads will eventually prevail and when that happens I hope we can all hug it out, have a laugh and start talking about other aspects of the game.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 23, 2009, 11:46:13 AM
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So if you don't care, why play the game and respond with such verocity?

That's just how we roll. And going to war with a bunch of e-peen stroking netizens only makes us stronger.

Also, we don't point fingers, we point a flame thrower that's been modified to shoot obscenities and moral decay (and maybe a little fire).

Edit:
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I think we can agree it doesn't matter who started attacking who

But it does. It does.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Reg on April 23, 2009, 11:52:02 AM
I think they're still in a state of shock that a town half their size that they expected to be able to bully isn't rolling over for them.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 23, 2009, 11:54:13 AM
So if you don't care, why play the game and respond with such verocity?  It's alright to admit that you do care.  I care that my members enjoy their gaming experience, as I think this game has lots to offer vs other browser based games that I have played.

And if you would have only retaliated against the offending member while sending me an explanation of what had transpired then we would have not reached this point.  Remember when you point 1 finger there are 3 pointing back at yourself.  I think we can agree it doesn't matter who started attacking who, so it's a moot point.  Cooler heads will eventually prevail and when that happens I hope we can all hug it out, have a laugh and start talking about other aspects of the game.

I'm not sure what you mean by "verocity".  Velocity?  Verbosity?  Veracity? Help please!  Is Lorekeep being too fast, too wordy or too truthful?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: LK on April 23, 2009, 11:57:54 AM
You should put a disclaimer in your town title.

"The beliefs, views, and asshole behavior of Copper Creek are not representative of those of Copper Springs, Inc."

It'd be a good lie to put on there along with eating the weak.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 23, 2009, 12:10:22 PM
Signe..sorry for the typo.

Schild...you're funny.

Reg...we never expect anyone to roll over, and if you would pay attention that has not been at issue as we are not making any demands.

LoreKeep...we'll not be adding anything to our town's profile.  And as I have previously pointed out I have not been dishonest about anything that has transpired.

As John Lennon once sang,"Ev'rybody's talkin' 'bout...Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism...This-ism, that-ism, ism ism ism...All we are saying is give peace a chance...All we are saying is give peace a chance..."



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: schild on April 23, 2009, 12:17:56 PM
Seriously, those ellipses are only going to make us kill you harder.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Mrbloodworth on April 23, 2009, 12:18:03 PM
As John Lennon once sang,"Ev'rybody's talkin' 'bout...Bagism, Shagism, Dragism, Madism, Ragism, Tagism...This-ism, that-ism, ism ism ism...All we are saying is give peace a chance...All we are saying is give peace a chance..."

(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/SIGN/10014~Hippies-Use-Back-Door-Posters.jpg)


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Kamen on April 23, 2009, 12:22:15 PM
So if you don't care, why play the game and respond with such verocity? 

Says the man with 40 posts in two days.  :roll:

It's clear you are either intentionally ignoring how this started, the lies, that you can't control your own people or allies, or that we're having a merry ol' time curb stomping you.  Then you stroll in here and grandly offer a ceasefire without offering jack shit.  How big of you.



Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: DirtyBirdy on April 23, 2009, 12:28:34 PM
So if you don't care, why play the game and respond with such verocity? 

Says the man with 40 posts in two days.  :roll:

It's clear you are either intentionally ignoring how this started, the lies, that you can't control your own people or allies, or that we're having a merry ol' time curb stomping you.  Then you stroll in here and grandly offer a ceasefire without offering jack shit.  How big of you.



I never said I didn't care, quite the contrary if you read the posts.(42)

It's clear it doesn't matter how this started.  You think you're curb stomping us?  I fail to see how you are doing any such thing.  I offered a ceasefire, an apology and was prepared to leave it at that.

Seriously, those ellipses are only going to make us kill you harder.

Well.....I am waiting for all this killing....to....take...place....is that better?


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat Country will be on World 8)
Post by: Signe on April 23, 2009, 12:29:01 PM
John Lennon also said:  "Crabalocker fishwife Pornographic priestess boy, you've been a naughty girl you let your knickers down".  

No point, really, just saying John Lennon said that, too.  That's John Lennon, that is.


Title: Re: The West (as of 3/09, Bat