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http://www.the-west.net/

Looks interesting and well-constructed. I've just started playing.

Looks like it could be good.  Keep us posted; if you don't hate it a month from now I'll figure it's worth trying.

One interesting factoid.  Instead of going with the replenishing point pool method of activity control, which lets you pick when you want to do your stuff during the day, this game actually has you do stuff in realtime.  So if you need to pick cotton for a quest (and you do) and it takes an hour with walking time, it really takes an hour.  More like Eve's realtime skillup system, except applied to everything.  Haven't decided if I like it.  Probably not.

What world are you on?  Or does it matter?

Whoops nevermind, I just saw that Xanthippe is assigned to world 7.

I'll build a village and let you know. I'm fascinated by it: when you are out and about you can be engaged, but your character needs to sleep after his energy is expended. So when you go to bed, your character goes to bed.

What world?

7.

They are starting two new worlds on Monday and Tuesday. I can see myself playing this awhile so I'm going to run a character on 7 and on 8. I'd like to get started on a fresh territory and use the World 7 one as a sort of... "What to do."

Edit: Building my first town. It literally takes 8 hours and afterwards you'll have to rest for another 8 hours or so because of the consumed energy. Towns are a serious investment though. It's the only place to sell items to make more money, and the only place you can rest up to get energy back quicker. I'm curious as to if there is secondary income or the such if people stay at your hotel or sell at your store. Would be neat.

Still playing this game, though I do not find it terribly interesting.  Once your town is going can I join it?  In exchange I am happy to help out with whatever.

You can join my town. It's The Outback, just telegram Lorekeep. However I should warn you that I'm going to put more of my focus into World 8 once it comes live since it'll be fresh. I'll even do some RMT to show I'm SERIOUSSSSSS.

But yeah, to me, World 7 is Beta and World 8 is Retail.

Ok, I will wait on world 8 then.  You may as well benefit from whatever effort I put in.

Sure. Making a town is expensive. It only costs $300 to start but to get your first building requires upwards of 2000 cash. Not so much if you have everyone donating money, but kinda expensive if you're doing it by yourself.

However, it is definitely a warm feeling when you create the only hotel in the area. But I'm curious if you make any money when people use your stuff. Towns as a complete money sink seems meh.

I'll start on world 8 with you all tomorrow.

My best advice is to just follow the quests until it puts you up against a cockblock (Get a Donkey / Do Turkey Job) that requires you to be min. Lv 15 or something.

I made it to Lv. 9 pretty fast then things... slowed... doooooown. But Lv. 10 is where you can pick a class.

World 8 should be going up 7 am on Monday.

Should we make Bat Country?

Sure!

I'll join ya.

Me too!

edit: Just started on world 7 to test the game. What is the best skills to get? I'm not too sure harvesting sugar atm !

I think it'll be a learning experience for everyone come monday. We tend to organize decently though when a game doesn't suck wind through a tailpipe.

Edit: And I think it's safe to assume that we should let Lorekeep take the reins on this one.

Meh. It's been "today" for 14 hours already, and no world 8 yet.
The news/forum post says:
But I have no idea where the server is located.

German company, so I'd suspect somewhere between 8 and 10am EST. Maybe.

I'm level 8 on World 7 as Xanthippe.  I'm stuck, I guess.  I have two quests in my book, but lack the labor points to do either.  How do I get more labor points?

To make a new gal on World 8, do I make a new account?

What part of the world is your town on World 7?

I don't know anything about this although I've been playing a few days.  I don't even know what the different classes are or what they mean.

It's the 10th here already and world 8 still isn't up. I didn't know it was possible to live more than 24 hours into the future!

Yeah, I was looking for world 8 too. I started a guy just now on world 7 to get an idea of what the game is about. I expect I'll delete or abandon him once world 8 is up.

So, what's the future like?

It depends on what you want to do later on down the line. Thankfully when you hit Lv. 14 you can respec slowly over time. For now I found Charisma to be a good stat to raise as Trading, Leadership, Animal Instinct and the such are good stuff for low level missions. Hang onto your skill points until you need them for a specific quest to advance.


As of this post it was between 15:30 and 16:00 server time. So any minute now.


Do a search for Lorekeep or The Outback. We're located in the bottom left corner of the world, one grid right of the southwest corner, towards the southwest corner of that grid point (so all the way at the bottom and one grid right of the very west grids). No need to make a new account, it seems.

I'm hoping when we start on World 8 we are all located at a central location.

World 8 just went up.

Will create an account tonight if I can remember and find the time.

I'm on the easternmost side of the game, 3 grids down. Doesn't necessarily mean where the town should be founded as I hate walls.

Just follow the quests at the beginning.

Where I started:
(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/starting_location.png)

I like being far away from everything in any game though.

Edit: Time to shower, Sugar is 30 fucking minutes away.

I'm directly north of Schild almost at the top of the map. Oh - character name Regg.

I cant seem to join world 8. All worlds are Grey to me except 7.

Lorekeep, is it worth scouting out an area of town based on resources and such and then have everyone go there, or does all that shit not matter and a town is self-sufficient.

I suppose I'm asking, how does the town system work. Do want to craft.

I am a bit north east of Schild

Town system is self sufficient. All you need is cash. However the best "spots" are only visible when you're higher level as you can't see the good jobs until you get higher up.

So nothing worth scouting just yet. I'd focus on getting to Lv. 10 which will take awhile given there are no hotels to rest at. The Energy Premium is really good here.

Bloodworth: Click 8. It's grey because they have an extra confirmation due to only 8 or 9 being playable, not both.

Ok, I just queued up Sugar for too little time. I just added 10 minutes to the queue as a second item, does that mean I'll have to walk 20 minutes agani? If so, I'll just cancel and hope for the best. Yargh. I have 4 minutes to get an answer before I leave my fate in this weird game's hands.

Yeah, i figured it out, i'm in. Grabbing some sugar.

I made that same mistake a little while ago on my world 7 guy. If you haven't moved you'll still be in the sugar field so there won't be any travel time.

Thank the lordy. How do I know when I've gotten the sugar? Will it show up in my inventory?

Ah travel time, why hitting 10 minutes means 30. Thanks!

46 Minutes to cotton. I could not have started in a worse place. I swear I'll be in the dead center when I finish the newbie quest chain.

Yeah, it shows up in inventory. I checked that after I picked tobacco. What I'm curious about is what happens if we don't get sugar after 30 minutes? Is it just a random chance thing so we should start up another 30 minute job and hope for the best? Or does the chance of getting some sugar gradually increase as you spend more time at it?

I got it in 10 minutes. I guess we'll find out when someone here gets screwed. I already tried reading their forums and their admin is an annoying hag of a woman and the users are some of the worst I've encountered in a webgame that takes some modicum of planning. I'm never, ever going back in there.

Guess i need a horse to lower the travel time tack on to jobs.

Also the help is rather useful. (http://en8.the-west.net/help.php)

It's best to do it for 30 minutes since it's a more efficient use of time for energy. 10 minutes I guess you can do if you want to take your chances getting an item, but I always consider myself planning all my actions in 30 minute blocks.

Yeah I noticed some of the resources are really spread out.

Thankfully, now that I'm going to the middle of the map (and am, apparently, carrying an entire tavern full of quest givers in a pouch or someshit), I'm going to be closer to a lot more resources than I was when I started. I am OK with this.

I was finding this odd too.

Your first "horse" which is required for a quest will be a donkey. It can be obtained in a Town's General Store Lv. 1. BUT... if it's not a town you are a part of, it will cost 4 times as much. So it normally costs $1000 or $250 at your store.

Plus, all those items you're getting can't be sold until someone gets a town with a General Store up. It's going to be pretty nice and even for awhile until we all amass the appropriate amount of cash to get a real town going.

Bleh, it's taking the awhile to credit my account with Premium nuggets.

Times is hard in the west it seems.

Well I got my sugar at the last possible second (ie. right at 30 minutes) so it looks like if there's a 100 percent chance of getting it in a certain time and you don't get lucky enough to get it earlier it will just give it to you at the end of the time.

Cotton picking only has a 50 percent chance of working in 30 minutes though. I've got a 40 minute walk to get to some so I've set myself up to pick for an hour. I'll check back later I guess.

This game needs a gadget.

Just an FYI: Later on you'll need to do some jobs to raise your level without quests. Go Sugar Cane. You need a lot for a quest later on and the stuff is the best return on investment.

I didn't get sugar in the first 10 minutes, but I got a broken wine bottle that's worth more than everything in my inventory and my wallet combined.

1 hour spent on cotton, NUTHIN.

One hour and got a cotton. The next quest is to get to level 2 so I guess I'm off to pick more sugar. Putting up posters is far too scary and dangerous!

Games random as shit then, because i set mine to 10, and got one. I'm currently working on level 2, gettin' some sugar.

Heh, if the next quest is get to level 2 then I might've just canceled my 30 minutes and switched it to 2 hours as i'm halfway there already. :awesome_for_real:

I suspect that it rolls the dice at the end of each work period. If you have time to babysit it I think the most efficient way to gather stuff is to work in 10 minute chunks. No way I'm doing that though. I'm just not quite that obsessive. :grin:

Like i said this game needs a gadget, one with a live timer and current job name, at least.

Also, art side. To their credit, the use of poser models do not even bother me. Normally, they do.

All right, I'm in.  I can't find a "guild" thingy in game.  Is there one?  How do I hook up with all y'all?

I just started and I'm picking tobacco.

yay

edit:
I'm in the very middle/bottom of the map.

We're going to have our own little town with a "bulletin board" of sorts it would seem.

Ah, I see.  A town is a guild.  Cool.  My character name is "Spamwise", so toss me an invite when we're ready.

I'm in world 8 under Xanthipe.  Can't use my other name because that's in World 7 still.

Started way over on the right edge, 3rd down.  Walking toward the middle more on my jobs.

So does anyone know enough about this game to suggest what character classes a town needs? From the description it looks like "Workers" are useful but geeze it sure doesn't sound like much fun.

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/resource_cluster.png)

This is the best resource cluster I've been able to find. Walking there now, but anyway, filter out for "picking cotton" and look for that blue dot. Just a bevy of stuff to grind your way quickly to level 10. Also, since we're aiming for a town, it may be worth doing stuff that has a high luck possibility so we have stuff to sell in town right when it opens. Also you can come across weapons and clothing and such. Anyway, yea, I'm going there. Whoop whoop.

Want to include the global map in that there screenshot, hoss?  (Lower right of the minimap dialog, under the search dropdown.  Tells what minimap "screen" you're on.)

The global map is in the screenshot, hoss. I just took 2 screenshots so I could move it to not cover up the resources.

Edit: That's the SW Area (really, about 80% of the whole map) of the global map.

There's a 4x10 grid in the lower right corner of your screen when you're scrolling around the minimap.  The "global map" in your screenshot is one of those 40 squares.  At least, that's if I'm understanding the interface right.

Town foundations shouldn't be based on low level areas. We're all going to be Lv. 10 and rollicking in cash before we should be thinking about a town.

Towns only need one or two workers. The rest can be Duelers, Soldiers, or Adventurers. It all depends on what you want to do... PvP or cash generation / quests.

Oh, that right. Yea, bottom right hand corner (THE bottom right hand corner). Fuck the old west is big (like really damn big).

I'm only a couple screens away from you.  But like Lore says, I think it's probably premature to be picking out a spot for a town.

Haven't figured out what I want to be yet.  Hopefully I get to sample the PvP before I have to commit, since my choice will probably depend on how much I like that part of the game.

I wasn't picking a place for a town, just looking for a great place to grind, particularly while I sleep. This is a great place.

kk.  I'll start working my way down there.

I really like the skill system in this game, with labor points being the sum of five different modifiers.  Synergies make my inner min/maxer go  :drill:.

At Lv. 14 you can also slowly rspec.

I just noticed that the world map is the same between worlds. So we want to be looking at towns in World 8 that are huge in World 7.

Does every world play out the same?

I'm not sure. Only been into this a couple weeks.

Aez - world 8.

How do you play this game?  The first task I did took 15 min.  I hope some task are longer.  I can't play from work.

When you start a task, you can specify how long to spend at it, up to two hours.  You can also queue up a couple of different tasks (it looks like one of the RMT options is to queue up four at a time).

I'm just a few squares north of shild... 6 and ahalf hours walking time. I expect it would take days to get to the west side of the west.

I'm a square and a half north of Schild as well, working my way down.

and, hi2u!

-Sutro

Look around when you start getting tired: There are "Founding Towns" where you can go to the Hotel to rest up. It may be several hours away but the amount of time you'd save going there is monumental. Right now New York is in the right-most grid, second from top.

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/richmond.png)

For those people in the bottom right quadrant, in the bottom most right hand corner, inside that white square is Richmond.

It's 1 hour 17 minutes from the spot I posted yesterday with the 3 resources. Wish I'd known about it before going to bed, haha.

Edit: Who knew I'd be picking cotton with Rendakor and viin. Haha. (I wonder how many other people are playing and haven't said anything)

(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/703641/Pics/Games/west_leodido.JPG)

I'm in, Leodido ! picking sugar!

I found Boston in the top right grid. All of these east coast cities really need an ocean to be on don't you think?

I also started in the lower right grid (game needs a grid system) and am hovering around here doing quests, ill work my way around slowly.

(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/866/thewestlocation.jpg)


Is Richmond a player town?

I'm North East from BW. Far from Schild. Maybe this is for the better? :grin:

I can't stand this game, I set sugar for 2 hours and didn't care to come back...

Boston?  Richmond?

I don't see any towns on the map at all.

Lol. Yes, the prime problem with web games in general, you have found it.

These founder towns don't seem to appear on the main map. You have to scan around for them. It kind of sucks.

Where is our town damnit!

in mah pants, ur invted

You can't filter for the founder towns; however, on the minimap they do show up as little grey diamonds. Which is a real kick in the seat to find, since they're -almost- the same color as the map's background/terrain.

NEIN! :pedobear:

Ahhh, "ghost towns."

I just found Washington in my little rectangle.  Does every rectangle have one?

Sweet, I was wondering where the hotels were at.  I'm only about an hour from Richmond so I'll see you all there shortly, I reckon.

I'm 45 minutes out of Washington myself; I'll be queuing up for it shortly. Anyone getting close to the amount of scrilla for founding?

I'm about halfway there.  The levelling curve in this game is very decent.

I'm a bit over $100. Of course, if I could sell the piles of shit on me, I'd have nearly 200. >_<

I'm going to continue to do quest where i am, then tonight i will set my guy to walk to Richmond, and sleep at the inn, because the total time for that is about 9 hours.

I am now picking berries for 4 hours. I went ahead and bumped up the main stats, which bumped up everything, and putting on that +5 toughness hat opened up a shitload of tasks. Berries seems far more lucrative than most shit AND it's right south of Richmond ^_^.

Currently my build is basically being dictated by the jobs that quests point me at.  I wish I had a better idea of what play is like at the higher levels so I'd know what stuff I should start focusing on.

Well, you get skill and attribute points. I haven't used the skill points since those are far more specific to what they do, but I dumped some points into the core attributes because they give +1 to everything under that attribute. As such, yea, I used some points.

I figure if I spend all my points now on stuff I'm doing now, I'll get XP faster so I can get more points.  We'll see if I end up wishing later that I'd hoarded them all to put into something that's useless now but vital later.   :why_so_serious:

I think there is a respec type system in place. I do not think its an all at once respec though.

I don't understand how people are level 8 already. I've been pretty fierce in my ability to keep my character doing shit and right now I'm about to hit level 5 in an hour and I'm level 4 in dueling. Perhaps I'm doin it wrong.

Pick jobs that provide maximum XP yield (different jobs give different amounts).  Max out your skills for those jobs so you get more out of them.  Switch between jobs with similar yields so your motivation doesn't drop.  Do quests, since those give you lots of bonus XP.

That seems to be the recipe for optimal XP gain, anyway.  Are you doing that?

As far as I can tell, yes.

I had a few hours of free time yesterday to grind picking sugar but since then all of my time is being spent doing stuff the newbie quests want me to do. Perhaps straight grinding is more efficient than doing these quests.

People like me are probably also using RMT to max their energy usage and XP gain. If I was luckier on some items I'd be Lv. 8 as well.

Don't worry about placing stats in useless stuff. At Lv. 14 you can respec for $1 a point, but not all at once (more you do at one time, more it costs).

Ahhh right. I forgot about the RMT goodies you can get. I'm not sold enough on the game yet to put real money into it.

From what I can glean, these are the people playing:

Aez
Kamen (as Kamen West)
lamaros
Leodido
Lorekeep
MrBloodworth (as Trucegore)
Musashi (as Gyoza)
NiX
Reg (as Regg)
Rendakor
Samwise (as Spamwise)
Schild
Sutro
Viin
Xanthippe (as Xanthipe)
Xuri

Mr.B = Trucegore in game. Now sleeping in Richmond till tomorrow.

I dunno how much longer I'll play this, I somehow seem to be missing the fun.

I'm not sure if it counts as "fun", but it doesn't have any "unfun" like most web MMOs do.  As in, it lets me queue up a couple of jobs to last a few hours and walk away instead of having to babysit my character.  So that's something.

I agree with the apathy towards the "fun"; it's the reason I hadn't bothered posting that I started playing. For now its something I dick around on in class, or during downtime in WoW.

That said, I found it amusing that the GOAL of a quest was to ding level 2. Usually that's either a Pre-req or a reward, not an objective.

I feel hurt and dejected.

Feel better now?

:hello_kitty:

I completed all the quests I'm capable of and still am only Lv. 8 when I was Lv. 9 on World 7. Probably because I had found some nice equipment that boosted all the right stats.

So right now I'm sitting on $200, and that doesn't include stuff I can sell. We should have enough to FOUND a town between all of us, but not enough to really do anything with it just yet.

So do we need to found or join a town in order to sell? I have a ton of trash sitting in my inventory doing nothing.

I think so, yeah.

What class/portrait are people thinking?   It seems like the class doesn't affect your game THAT much (it's just a 10% bonus here or there), so I'm going to just try to get an avatard that's different from everyone else's.   :awesome_for_real:

I'm thinking adventurer or duelist.

As far as build goes, I'm thinking of doing a dex/cha hybrid with a pretty split point spread between traps, appearance, tactics and shooting. The reasoning for this is that there's synergy for that combo at most phases of the game. I won't be "spiky" - i.e., I won't qualify terribly early for most jobs - but I'll be OK at dueling and I'll be able to go pretty smoothly through the progression.

-Sutro

http://forum.the-west.net/showthread.php?p=147437#post147437

Oh, shit. Age of Conan but better?

I am thinking Worker may not be the way to go since more PvP elements are making their way into the game. The only class that gets a serious advantage in combat is a Soldier because of the 50% bonus to Tactics.  I am leaning towards Adventurer though because of it's "Can do anything equally well" type setup. Those class bonuses need to be revisited. Duelist is OK but all it really is is doing more faster, not really better at dueling.

I can not get a fucking Raven Feather for the life of me. I've spent all fucking day scaring off the crows. >_<

At least you're getting XP right? Things dry up between Lv. 8 - 10.

Lol, same.  I've done every other quest but the damn feather eludes me.

Lorekeep, how can I give you moneyz?

We can setup the town and you can donate it to the town Treasury. I'm at $244 so I'm pretty close to pulling this off.

We can do one of two things:

1. Get a General Store going so we (and everyone around us) can start selling items. We can use Founder Towns for Hotel resting.
2. Get a Hotel going so we can sleep for free, perhaps farther away and in a separate county from the starting areas in anticipation of fort battles.

I can browse World 7 and look for good locations in the right 3 quadrants. The farther west we go, the longer it'll take us to get out there but the more isolated we'll be.

My opinion? Make it as isolated as possible, find a quadrant with good resources but nearly no one around. Who really cares about making money from the hotel anyway? I'll head out there the moment you give a location.

You can't make money from the hotel yet. I just want to make sure we have the money to BUILD one if we're tossing it out in the boonies.

When I get $300 I'll start getting serious about finding a town spot.

Well, scaring away crows led me to feeding pigs or some shit. Whatever, I still don't have a ham or a raven feather. But I did get this from the pigs - which has 0% luck or whatever.

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/brown_rags.png)

I am OK with this.

I am level 7 right now trying for a silly feather.  I also have $150 or so in contributions to the cause.

Level 7 with 150 as well.

Level 6, will also give a buck fitty. Heh.

-Sutro

Nearly level 8, with around $160 with which I can contribute.

Level 8, still trying to get a goddamn feather.

Level 9 trying to get  a hammer.

If you see some guy named Kamen please kill him, it ain't me.

Anyway, I've created a character named Kamen West on world 8.  I'll give your town project my money after I make it.

In as "Gyoza."  Have money.  Working on feather.

Edit:  Also.  Looks like there's three towns already on the far right of the world.

Double Edit:  Just moused through all the 'zones.'  Those are the only three eastern towns in the whole thing so far.  So it could be that the farther west you go, the farther away from people you get.  Which would make sense, given the name of the game.

Are you talking about the Founder towns like Boston and New York or have player created towns started popping up already?

Player towns, I'm pretty sure.  Named like 'Happy saloon.'

Updated this back yonder on that other page.

I found my fucking feather.  YEE HAW! 

Unfortunately the next quest requires beans, which I'll need to gain a level or two to get.  I'm sort of tickled that I have to level up my Charisma to be able to pick beans.

They require finesse.

Got 1 of 2 grains, still no feather. But I'm a loot fiend. Just found a necklace of +5 animal instinct.

I have an extra feather now.  Don't know if/how can trade.

Yeah those items that give +Stats are lethally good in the early game.

Wait until you have to get a Turkey.

After this next two hour shift I'll have enough money to fund a town. I'll be looking at locations that are one, two, or three grids west. Farther and it'll take 24 hours just to walk over there. I'm thinking something in the middle given that I hate being on borders.

I've got the Turkey quest but I'm like 20 labour points short of being able to hunt it. And that's after I spent almost everything on being able to Repair Goddammed Fences.  I think'll probably have to grind for a level or two before I have the points I need.

(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/Lorekeep/TownPlots01.jpg)

Here are the four plots I identified as possible good places to go. Each is varying distance from the east side. I think in the long run it isn't going to matter what plot we choose as we can't see the higher level stuff right away. It's all about how isolated you guys want to be at the start.

Option A: It'll take about $2000 starting cash to get the hotel up and running. Assuming someone with decent Construction, Leadership, and Repair (I think on that third one), you can do average 6 points of construction every half hour, and sometimes 7 if you're good at our level. Given there are 200 points to the hotel, that's 34 half-hours, or 2040 cash.

Option B: General Store only requires 100 Construction Points. With access to that, we can get cheap items (Donkey at $250), only requires 1020 cash to get started (Which between us all I know we have), AND the ability to sell (which will boost finances for hotel).  However sleeping may be an issue.

Keep in mind Founder's Town with hotels are only nearby Options 1 and 2. 3 and 4, there ain't nothing but the animals.

I planned on going builder guy, so I have no problem going straight into the hotel biz. But yes, somewhere to sleep may be nice. Heh.

I like sleep.

I'm only lvl 5.  I can't play enough during the week.

I am also going to be good at construction (going heavy Charisma and then probably Dex)  Dunno if that will help much.

Any particular preference on location?

I like option 4, if only because the town is close to the center of the county map and that'll make navigation a little more pleasant.

As long as we'll have a hotel I like the idea of striking out west rather than sticking closer to the starter towns.

Looks like four would be fine.

I don't care.  Pick a spot and I'll be there.

Milling grain now so I can get some more points to repair fences.  Turkeys will be after that.

Maybe being a worker?  I don't know.  I don't care about dueling so much, and aren't really sure about the other things.

Don't we need a bank before Anything so we can put money int he treasury? How much is that?

My char's name is gotleather, btw. Still just level 2. Might get a few levels over the weekend though.

I think 4 works too.

Level 7 here, with 150 to contribute (maybe more once we can sell). No real preference on location for our town.

Bank comes with the town. Town Treasury is separate in that you can either put it in personal savings or town Treasury.

Establishing Bat Country at 4!

So who all has high Construction, Repair, and Leadership? I've got more of the latter two but low on Construction due to no jobs requiring it. I could use an item that grants it...

What time should we head out there?

It'll be 16 hours before the Town is founded. I'll get you invites. I'd head out once we know we have enough cash and building power to make the Hotel.

It takes 8 hours just to get out there.

So, you'll say when we should head out there, OK. Heh.

I've got a leadership of 9 (5 base with an item for 4 more); my construction is only at 2, and my repair is at 4 but thats all from an item. However I have 2 attributes and 2 skills I'm currently holding; I can assign them wherever we need to get the town up and running.

I think it would be best that we assess our roles tomorrow or soonish so that we know before the trek over there what we're doing Exactly. It seems like without forethought, the entire town will be chock full of old west hillbillies with no marketable skills (goldpanning anyone?).

Construction is the most important one. Formula goes Construction x 3 + Repair + Leadership. Also keep in mind you can respec.

I'm planning to go Adventurer because I can see myself benefiting more from those bonuses (except for that shitty Foreign Hotel Bonus).

Still level 9 with Leadership 4, Repair 8 and Construction 1.  I'm 23 points away from being able to hunt Turkeys and the fastest way to get the skills would be to pump skill points into hiding which appears twice on the skill list. Right now I'm just mowing a pasture for experience.

My other quest is to buy a donkey. I need to belong to a town with a general store to be able to do that right?

I was leaning toward being a grizzled prospector, meself.  Although if someone else wants the gold-panning job I might go with mortician instead.   :drill:

Hey! I have absoluetly no clue what I'm doing, I did not distribute any point yet I feel like a newb!
Any advice welcome, also I'm only level 4 soon to be 5.
I guess I should plan my attribute distribution with the class I'm going to pick later?

That's pretty much where the cock block begins with quests until you hit Lv. 10 and start getting class quests.

My character so far:
LEVEL: 8
STATS: Dexterity 4, Strength 2
SKILLS: Toughness 14, Aim and Shooting 7 (which sounds pretty useless when I think about it, considering that my weapon of choice at the moment is a broken bottle), Appearance and Repairing 5, Vigor, Dodging, Setting Traps and Fine motor skills 4
$163

Guess I'm pretty useless for the town and whatnot right now.

Just keep saving the skill points until you get a quest that needs them. When that happens you'll be glad you still have them.

(http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3671/statsm.jpg)

Level 7, going to go mortician.

I'm going for a worker, so I dumped all my attributes points in strength and saved the skill points.
I heard I could be used in our future town if needed?
Guess I'm useless at the moment I'm only level 5 tho but I'd be glade to help.

I've always wanted to be a cowgirl, so cowgirl I'll be.

Yippee kay aye yay, etc.

Oh, fucking SWEET.  I went to go pick berries to grind up a couple of levels to be able to pick beans for a quest, and found an Indian necklace that raises my stats high enough that I can do it without even needing the level.

BEANS HO!

 :drill:

I'm gonna be a cowboy! A singing cowboy!

All right, I call dibs on prospector.   Hands off my gold pan, by cracky!

I'm only level 4 so far, but would a soldier be useful after I get to level 10?

I'll do whatever you guys need so long as it involves shooting people in the face.

Bloodworth:  Three coffins sir.  Oops.  I mean four.

Changed my mind, decided to go adventurer!

Ok I invited schild just cause and I'm going to invite Bloodworth because he can build like a mother fucker. Who else has got 300+ in funds?

BTW: Only got room for two more players right now until we build residences.

I have $200 and some vendor trash to unload.  Also already making my way over.

I have 175 plus trash.  I went to zone four overnight.

In the rain even.

First come first serve then, eh? :\ Might take longer to get our hotel live.

I'm on my way 8 hours to get there, then 15 min to pray (only way i could get him to walk, no clue what it does), then i shall...what do you want me to do? ill park my guy on building something if you want.

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1663/makehotel.jpg)

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9457/residences.jpg)
(No im not making anything yet, just posting the screen shot of building things)

We need $60 for every half hour of work. If you have unused stat points I'd pump them into Construction to get your Labor Points higher. But right now we need money to get you working.

I'm fixing some fences and such. The question is, straight to residences, hotel, or store? I have my repair at 10, trying to get level 9 and finish the last quest. Then I'll head straight over and build.

k, i get 27 and 12, respectively, now for the two items above, they seem like the best to focus on, i also have $188 on me.

I'll be there in 7 hours.   If you wanna throw me an invite (Spamwise) I'll spend some of my cash on building something.

What's your stats for Construction at? Might be best to have Bloodworth do it.

It HAS to be Hotel. This far out, we can't afford to travel 8 hours just to rest.

Looks like... 6.  Can multiple people not collaborate on construction?  Or do you not get as much return for your investment if someone with fewer points works on it?

Well, can nonmembers put money in the bank? If no, then residences, if yes, then hotel.

Should I head out there or is the resident limit too low right now?

I'll start working on Hotel asap then. I'll pump points into just that stuff.

Hey if anyone is on their way out here right now, do me a favor and cancel the trip. You'll end up back where you started.

I don't think we're going to have enough for the hotel and your time is better spent earning cash and XP.

schild, Spam, myself, Bloodworth, and I got room for one more who has a lot of cash, but I don't think that's going to happen yet.

I'm up to 278 on cash but haven't started my way west yet.  Still at level 9, working until I can skill up to do Turkey quest.  Or donkey quest.  Those are my only options at this point.

I don't care if I'm in now or later.  I'll stay where I am if not until later, or make my way if you want me sooner.

I'll have a shitload of money once we have a general store >_<

Yeah, me too. I'm getting lots of useless ponchos and no feet or neck accessories.

I hit Lv. 10 and went Prospector. Only decent looking female portrait in the bunch.

I'll just sit about where I am working for loot (13 fine motor skills) at the moment then. When I get some good stuff I'll let you know and make my way over.

Should I got for $$ jobs or loot jobs? If you guys will have the store up soon I suppose the latter?

Get cash. When we got about 2k between us we can finance the hotel.

Admittedly, I'm making a lot more getting loot than I am getting cash. But I suppose that's neither here nor there as long as we get it.

I have about $300 in loot and $190 in cash.

I'm going worker, going to take the Craftsman picture. Looks like he's carrying around an old green box of cereal. And I love me some cereal. We'll pretend it's Raisin Bran. Mmmmmmm, raisin bran.

We need a flag. Something ... perfect. Maybe...  :awesome_for_real: ?

max. 220x150, max. 256kByte, (jpg,jpeg,png,gif)

That's what we have to work with.

BTW I can finally hunt fucking turkey. Only put 18 points into Hiding. Shit can't WAIT to respec out of that.

I'm also out of energy. I have 150 bucks on my character (consider I just dropped $300 already to make the town... love that RMT!). So who is out there now or is planning to go out that is rolling in dough?

Update: Oh fuck me. Everyone come out and center around The Beastro a block north. They have a hotel.

I'm slowly considering RMT.  The game looks fun on the long turn and they are still updating the game.

Anyone can explain the logic behind the map interface.  Where is the town with the four quest giver?  Why do resources spot are scattered all over the place?
Just wondering why there's not some concentration of the farming related resources so you can imagine it's a farm?

I'm on my way to the hotel.

Also, I'll probably pick the Iroquois soldier since (If I ever understand the point of duel outside quests).

In 12 hours I'll be picking beans just south of Beastro.

Also on my way out to Beastro, be there in 8 hours.

Could someone list the skill requirements for hunting turkey? I'm so far away that it doesn't even appear on the map.

I will be near Beastro tonight.  Cannot hunt turkey or repair fences, but I can pick beans, prospect and guard forts!

Forums are annoying, I found a link to something useful though.


http://westtool.redio.de/w7/index.php

You can find info on jobs there.

I just hit level 10 and chose Cowboy. It looks like our town is going to have tons of workers. I'll be arriving at the Beastro Hotel in about 8.5 hours for a snooze so I'll be at 100 percent energy first thing tomorrow morning and ready to spend a couple of hours on my first Cowboy Quest which involves scaring crows out of my Uncle's corn field.

Oh yes. This game is fun all right!

If this has been posted yet, I haven't seen it...

http://www.weststats.com/ is far and away a better resource for finding jobs for which you qualify. It has a Javascript that lets you import your job values and your equipment bonuses and it flat out tells you if you qualify... and if you don't, how much you're off.

Plus, it's got full lists of quests and their requirements.

Level 8, 217 cash; chasing birds, pickin' beans. Will be OTW to bat country afterward.

Just hit level 10, picked cowgirl (worker).  I have 3 quests, can only do one of them (scaring birds).

One quest is hunting turkeys, which is a ways off.

The other is to get a donkey.  I have $340.

Do I buy a donkey or come to Bat Country to somehow put it towards town?

So I did the first few quests, then it told me to get to level 2, and since I was at the cotton field, I picked cotton for two hours. The XP bar went from 4/14 to 5/14. Do I really need to check up every two hours and reset a work timer for 18 more hours to get to level 2? That's Korean grind retarded.

It shouldn't take that long to get to level 2. Look around for a job that gives better experience that you have 100 percent motivation for. If you had been picking cotton already then you might have a motivation penalty for it and that'll cut down your experience.

I think we need to stop getting workers and start getting some Duelers haha.

I don't like WestStats. I went there once and I had literally 100 pop-ups come up on my screen.

What are the benefits of having duelers?

Guarding fort and earning money through duels.  There's also a couple of jobs that work well with a dueler/soldier skill set.

More money to town bank plz. we are at 13% for sleazy hotel.

How do I put money in the bank? =P

You have to be a member. I could rotate the last membership slot, have you join, go to the bank and donate to the Treasury, than kick you, just so we can get hotel going, General Store going, then residences, but that's up to everyone involved.

I am in the area and happy enough helping out.  Rotating between prospecting and milling grain should produce some cash.  I have 200 right now.

You can queue two things, so 4+ hours of working and moving. Still pretty annoying to check up every 5 hours or so, but you can just do it once a day w/o worring too much.

Can you give items to other players? I have a few extra feathers that some people seemed to find hard to get? Also got a Rusty Razor Blade if anyone is thinking about dueling.

About to hit level 10. Still not done with quests. Also, got a kickass sling shot, I'm pretty much all kitted out with decent gear and multiple outfits for doing different things. Tomorrow morning, I will head to town and start on the hotel w/ my fat $230.

Try and get $240 since that allows workers to do 2 hours of work. I'm depositing 240 myself once I get down there in a few hours.

Sigh. One point from level 10. Irony.

I'm willing to be admitted/looted/kicked.

-Sutro

^^hah.

I'm heading to town in the morning to pray, deposit my money, and then uhhhhhh go to town on building the hotel. Wooooo.

By the way, I have exactly 240g in my loot table atm.

Can we get the position of the town put in the first post? For those that are lazy.

(http://en8.the-west.net/images/avatars/goldseeker_small.png)
I'm a prospector, by cracky!

4 hours/$480 worth of hotel building going up, I have a high enough construction and repair that I can tear through this fucker. Deposit some more money and I can be done in probably a day or two. ^_^ I'll take the other 96 out of my bank and deposit it after I finish this. :)

I'm guessing there's a way to increase town population so we can all eventually join?

Yes, I'll have to build residences, which is not a problem.

I'm 11 with $480 at the moment, and am slowly meandering west.  Slept in Crow Town last night, will sleep in Britannia tonight (1 rectangle east of Bat Country).

Hlem is picking cotton on is way to Bat Country.   :awesome_for_real:

Heh, can't withdraw from the bank.

Nevermind, interface was poop. Didn't refresh.

Your character will make it one go. Just takes something like 6 hours.

Adventurer has a ridiculous number of easy quests that have massive XP. I'm already Lv. 14.

I invited Xanthipe. Let's get that hotel up, put nearly 480 of my own cash in, on my way up with another $100. Seriously Adventurer has ridiculous XP an cash gains from quests.

Fourth from the right, third row. Look for the only town in the center.

Or send me a telegram and I'll reply and you can see the town.

Might make my way over to Bat Country tonight. Any point? Room for me to donate $, will the hotel be up within the next day or two? Or should I just stay where I am?

Hotel should be up very soon. We can swap membership to get the money in there so people can build the Hotel.

Schild, blood... which one of you is the better constructor? WHICH CARPENTER WILL REIGN SUPREME?

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/stats.png)

That construction is going to hit 16 since I'm doing the first quest while waiting for money to appear.

Am I an Idiot? I can't find the town .. ?

Or you can just use the "Town" subscreen of the "Ranking" menu and look up Bat Country. That'll let you zoom right into it.

The screenshot they provided is misleading.  It's missing a row on the right.  Look where you were looking but one square to the left.

It's in the 7th rectangle from the left, 3rd rectangle down.

Or 4th from right.

I'll be there to deposit in 2 hours.  I can deposit $112, although I have $499.  What's up with that?

You should be able to deposit it all into the town treasury. The other one is the personal one. I can't even figure out how to withdraw from there :(.

If you buy/sell at a town, does that town get/give money from its own account? Or is it a seperate thing?

It does it automatically when you spend.

Oh okay, thanks I found the town.

The Beastro has a general store open, should I just sell all my shit there?

The only way I can figure to visit the town is to pray, but I cannot queue my deposit, I have to be in the town at the time?

Yeah. So just walk into the town and toss the money into the Treasury. Might as well toss it all in because you won't be able to use it until we build the General Store, which is after the Hotel.

Selling! Every general store seems to give you the value listed. I can't imagine the town makes money off buying things from players. So, yea, might as well sell at the Beastro, right?

The only advantage to your own General Store is in buying items.  Selling items -  you can do that anywhere.

Is there a way for players to trade or sell items between each other?

Do items you sell show up in the store's inventory?  That would be an incentive to sell at home, since then other folks in town can buy your stuff if they need it for quests.

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/signpost.png)

oooh thanks.

Money deposited now.  Off to pick corn.

Nah. They are just cash for you. I think they want 0 player trading to avoid Twinks.

Was I supposed to do anything besides deposit money?

(My construction is at 8, leadership 5 and repairing 10 - I've been putting points into whatever my next quest needs, mostly; planning on respeccing at 14).

I have another hour picking corn, and queued up an hour construction on the hotel.  Unless I hear differently, I'll queue up 2 hours after that.

I have been just building from the bank money.

I've been playing on World 4 for awhile now.  I don't mind started another character on World 8 so I can join you guys.  Do you have the room in your city/town for another?

Eventually? We need to build a bit before we can get everyone in.

Should I unqueue, or can two people build at once?

People can build at the same time, yes.

Neato, my last quest gave me +4 construction boots.  Yee haw.

I'm hiking home now with another $100 for the treasury.

Its all good, when you set your cue, it takes all that money for it out, so there is no double booking. I'm just doing my part for the town.

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/861/buildingr.jpg)

We are currently at 75% now.

Before you go on a selling spree of your loot, it's worth noting that 1 handcuffs are a required item for a quest. True, it's a quest WAY up the level ladder, at level 45... but it's a 1 percent drop rate.

My recommendation is that you hang onto *everything* that's a job loot. I think it'll ultimately save a lot of grief.

HAHAHA ALREADY SOLD EVERYTHING.

Holy SHIT Adventurer has a cluster fuck of high XP high cash quests.

Yeah, that's why I just became an adventurer. It also offers the most stats out of any of the job quest lines.

Sadly, I'm cockblocked at cowboy. :/ Need 12 moar points.

One thing to consider: I saw a town that offered to sell donkeys at $400; i.e., you get town invited, drop $150 in the bank, buy your donkey, then leave town. If we don't roll a donkey at Bat Country, we might want to consider a similar deal with Beastro since they have it.

We'll get you your damned Donkey. :P No need to waste $150 that would be better spent constructing our town.

Well, if you want to use my cash to construct the town, where's my invite to dump this $300, ffs? ;p

Don't bother till tomorrow, though. I'm still up around Beastro and I need to sleep.

I'm down to 0 cash - kick me if you need to.

No rush bro.  I'm still lowbie lvl.  My char name is St Drahcir.

I'm looking to see where you guys/town is at.  Where was it again roughly?  Even though I can't join yet I can at least play around with you guys.

I found it!

I deposited enough money to finish the hotel and get a crapload done one the General Store.

Goddamn I love the loot in this game.  I'm finding all sorts of cool +stat shit now and it's fun to shuffle it around to max out my bonuses for a particular job.

We have a hotel.  Come on down.

haha after I finish resting, I'll go straight to work on the general store after I finish resting at Beastro. No reason to dick around with wasting $10.

I'm tanning deer skin/repairing fences nearby. Invite me when you can so I can deposit the ~250 I have.

Ding 10.  I'm a soldat.

I'm resting in the Janitor's closet so I can grind out skills to finish the quests I have. Will it be awhile until we can all be signed up for the town?

I'm on my way to the town, I have something like 250$ if they are needed let me know.

I have 30 minutes queued up on the General Store which is currently at 51% - that'll put it up to 59% or so.  I'm sleeping now for another hour, and praying for 15 minutes after that, and plan on going out to work/level, as my construction in town is now down to 94% and will go down a little more after my queued work.

I can remove myself so another can be invited in to dump cash, after I finish my queued town stuff.

Next building after store ought to be residences so we can add more people.  Does anyone know if the rate of building residences changes, or the difficulty or whatever after you get one built?

I ought to ding 13 soon.  I'm not finding any new worker quests.  I finished a chain of easy ones, but ran out very quickly.

I'm sort of idling near Bat Country while occasionally polishing some shoes for passerbys, and I have $250 to deposit.

Ah haha. I wish our Treasury got a cut of the Hotel money. Bunch of players hanging around our neck of the woods now. :P

someone built a town west of bat country!  War, war!

What does praying do?

From the help file... No one knows but the lead programmer.  (http://en8.the-west.net/help.php?article=church)  :why_so_serious:


Yep, and they are using our hotel too.  :mob:

It really seems like some amount of the money paid to the hotel should go into the town treasury.

I left Bat Country - someone else can be invited in now.

Alright, Xuri, you got an invite.

I just started in on 2 hours of general store work (somehow made like $247 yesterday in fat loots).

(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc251/Lorekeep/Headgear01.jpg)

God damn that's a nice quest reward.

Reward? I FOUND +1 strength +5 stamina shoes for mucking fields or some shit. Talk about lucky for a worker. ^_^

I just now found some shoes of +4 construction and +4 swimming while panning for gold.   :drill:  My building labor points just doubled.  I'm gonna come home and finish the store.

The store would be done in 2 hours if there was any more gold in the bank. I deposited every ounce of money I had. :P

I have 13 minutes left on the last 2 hour block.

I know i have a 30 min block cued up. But i'm out of energy till tomorrow after that (after that), considering i have been just building for days now, my guy did rather good with out sleep =)

I just finished the general store, suckas.

Donkey, yellow bandanna, brown bandanna.

Just started 2 more hours on residences. You can tell me I rule later. Also, we're 9% of the way to level 2 general store.

Do Residence next. Then we can go General 2.

Residences mean more peoples can join? I long for some meaning to my meager western existence.

Yes, and yes.

If we get money when people stay in the hotel, we should upgrade that after upgrading residences.

I want to just live in the hotel, like George Hearst in Deadwood.

Oh, speaking of.  Can we build a whorehouse?

We already have one, there's a *NO_SIDEREAL = 1* flag on it for some reason.

 :cry:

If necessary we can swap people in and out of the fifth slot so you can at least pick up your Donkey and maybe get some free inn rest.

I have about 20 minutes left on Residence building, then I'm going to tend sheep for 2 hours to finish some qusts (and because I'm brooooooooooke), someone deposit more money. My "building" stat will be at 20 soon. I'm only focusing on strength/building now btw.

I'm two bucks away from getting my goddamn donkey.  After that all my money starts going into the town again.

I'm not even bothering with the donkey since 99% of my time will be spent in the town. :awesome_for_real:

Do the donkeys really cost 1000 bucks or do they get cheaper once you join the town?

Ding lvl 10! Not sure if I should go adventurer, despite all my points being adventuresque so far. I think we have a few doing that allready?

Either Soldier or Adventurer is recommended, depending on if you want to PvP or not. Dueling can't really be done until more towns with Morticians pop up.

Edit: Income on its way to the Treasury.

I should have around $400 for the town tonight, will need an invite for deposit.

I had to put my guy to sleep, i also may have bought some nuggets.  :grin:

My donkey only cost $250, so there must be a 75% discount for residents.

Yep.

Got some money for the town.  Waiting for invite once the residences are done.

I'm lazy and hate reading the internet.

Difference between soldier and adventurer?

One has pants. Good luck!

Which one?!  :ye_gods:


Actual answer: Soldiers like duel and stuff. Adventurers like do quests and stuff. 

Sleeping free in hotels is pretty sweet.

I've deposited all my cash, so I guess I can take my leave for now and free up a spot for someone else?

I'll be about for the next few hours if they want to do this. I suspect they're probably sleeping though. That is if anyone apart from Lorekeep can even add people.

Looks like they have anti-swapping protection or something. I can't dismiss him until 7:15 pm server time.

Ah well I'm going to sleep soon, so I'll just donte at a future date.

I'm building the residence as fast as my little legs will let me.

Edit: I have GOT to stop for a day, my freaking motivation/productivity dipped below 90% and my output almost halved, wtf.

I could build when I wake up in an hour and a half if I could snag an invitation to town.  My construction is at 13 (don't know if this is good or bad compared to others).

Lorekeep, how'd you hit 18 so fast?  I am totally out of quests I can do except trying to get  a flag by defending the fort, which has a 3% drop rate.  I won't be hunting turkeys any time soon or getting a donkey for awhile.

By the way, anyone know what those two extra equip slots are for?  The ones at the bottom next to feet.

The one on the left can hold handcuffs or a scythe or a meal or similar things but is it to any advantage to put something there?

My dude is back awake.  :grin:

Bottom right slot is for a mount.  Bottom left slot is purely decorative as far as I can tell.

Just realized you pretty much get hurt on every job, but this one caught my eye:

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5999/capturecuq.jpg)

Jesus. That's pretty hardcore.

That's nothing.  I've been shot like every time I guard a fort.  Silly flesh wounds.

Residences at 63.5%. Need more money.

I screwed up the sync and I've got to do some daytime sleeping, but if I can get cycled in I can pop $350 in the bank. If more's needed right right now, I'll wait on the donkey and deposit around $625.

Not sure what the timer is on cycling people in/out, but it is what it is

I still don't know how to do math in this game but I'm nowhere near enough to do even 2 hours of work. I've dumped every time into our little shantytown.

My character is Stdrahcir.  I'm just questing and doing adventures to gain money/exp.  No rush for me.  I'm just having fun being around the town.  I'm gathering and such from around there.

I got kicked by a cow while branding and took 133 damage.

I also woke up this morning to find someone had dueled me and did 2/3 my health in a single duel. At least I had no cash on me!

Well you're one of the highest level characters on the server. You better get used to being a target.

I don't get the whole dueling thing.

How do you avoid dueling?

Be sleeping in a hotel.

Stay away from me

(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6671/leevancleef1.jpg)

On a less Lee Van Cleef note, I see that one of the classes you can pick is 'Mexican'.  That's awesome.  I wish more MMOs offered the Mexican class.

What. the. hell.

I get a quest to duel a thief.  I challenge thief but don't see any sort of duel at all.  It said, You cannot beat the thief.  I didn't do a thing.  So I try to click it again.  Same thing.  3 more times.

So now I lost all my cash ($250), I am out of rest points and out of health points.

I never even saw the duel screen.

Fuck this. 

I also just got dueled. It seems, being part of a town, mean PvP consent.

Click the duel menu. Have to change your duel options and stuff.

Also check your reports and everything, should be a duel history in there somewhere.

I'm a level 10 Mexican now.  Figured we might need more gunfighter types.

I thought it was interactive.  It seemed interactive during the earlier quests/tutorials.

I guess it isn't.  Still, I should not be losing my cash to a quest duel, right?

Not unless you died during the duel.

Failed quest duels show up as reports in your Reports window. You can use that to analyze where the opponent is striking and change your tactics.

I died  because I kept dueling, thinking that it was a glitch, not noticing my health was dropping because the page didn't refresh.  I thought duels happened in real time like the early ones where it _seemed_ like I was clicking on different parts of the body of the guy I was dueling.

So duels are instant, preset things, and what you click on during the early duels in questing don't mean a thing?  Just dumb luck?

That sure would have been good to know beforehand.  Kind of disgusted with the game now, or with myself.  Going to take awhile to get to where I have enough energy to work so I can raise 10 to stay in a hotel.  Ugh. 

I put in an appeal.  Wonder if I'll get a reset.

Hlem is selling newspapers north of Bat Country, expect me to drop by your new hotel.  :drillf:

I had the same issue with that quest, Xan, although I don't think I lost the duel enough times to actually die from it.   :sad:  I agree it's not in any way intuitive until you figure it out.

Looks like our residences are almost done, and once you get into the town you can sleep in our hotel for free.  If you aren't already in the area, now might be a good time to start hiking, since it doesn't cost any energy to travel.

Caladonia hath invited me to join their town, aieee. We must build and claim the region for f13.

Caladonia invited me as well.  Residence done yet? =)

Grrr. The duelling system annoys me. Since we don't have a Mortician in the town, I can't revenge myself on the random dude who killed me in my sleep (ok, I fought back and almost won, but meh). What the heck do I need a Mortician in OUR town for when I'm going to kick ass in THEIR town? =P

I haven't left the area since I was a member of the town and dumped all my cash into it and then left town so someone else could come in.

I gained a little health and energy overnight, so maybe I can tan some deer or something.

God I'm having trouble getting the second deer hide for a quest and now he's given me another one that need 3 more when my motivation to do that job has dropped to 78. Oh well, I'm off to fish up trout for chump change and no experience.

I try not to do more than 2 2-hour blocks of anything at once.  The reward is too slim, otherwise.

I'm out picking beans, not enough money in the bank for substantial building. If anyone deposits, let me know.

You guys need to leave town so others can be invited in, otherwise you won't get more money from the other f13ers in the area.

I've left town.  Who has money?

75%

Just tell me what money you got and I'll invite ya.

$400

I can leave town right after deposit if needed.  Free resting!

$400 might actually be enough to finish the residences.  Then we can all be in the town at once!   :ye_gods:

Invited Pezzle! I threw in enough money myself for another 2 hour block.

After we upgrade the Residences to 2 we should probably alternate between Residences and Town Hall.

Queued up the two hours of constructions on residences, will be doing them in about 9 minutes.

Also, whats town hall upgrades do?

Edit: Oh, and in any given day I have about 6-8 hours of construction as long as the funds are available, I only stop when productivity drops below 85%.

Edit 2: This is where my stats are right now:

(http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/39720/games/the%20west/construction.png)

I don't know about town hall i do know there is another rank, just under founder) for some sort of town council.

I bet if we upgrade the bank however, people can put in more than 80$ (personal) in there.


Also, in the town Treasury log:


What happened there?

That is gross :P

Oh, and it adds to 76.. where are the other 3 coming from?


*edit*

420 deposited.  Left town so you can invite someone else.

Town Halls lower the labor cost of all buildings so you can generate more construction points without having to go crazy with your Construction stats.

I need to look into that item sale...

Pezzle left. Who's next?

Flag Submission.

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1049/f13flag.png)

Apes... with Chainsaws? o_o

It'll do. :P

HAY!


One of them has a drill.  :grin:

EDIT: it was an F13 swag i had laying around that never got used. I guess i COULD do something more "Wild west" but i am drawing a blank on what...other than putting cowboy hats on the apes.

Bahhahaha it's back.

Ready for invite.

Whats your dudes name?

The $4 was me buying a brown bandanna from the store (needed the +3 swim for a quest).  I spent $20 on it, so I guess the town gets 20% of money spent in the store?  Is there a $50 from my $250 donkey purchase too?  That'd be nice.

Workers get something like a 5% bonus to building construction.  That'd probably explain it.

Most people offer to invite someone to buy a donkey for $200 or something like that. So we fill the coffers and can add / kick puggers.

I hath deposited all my money including my savings to keep building. We'll probably be empty by the end of the day.

If we have room, I'm ready for an invite. By the time I'm done all my stuff (4 hours from this post) I should have around $300.

Name is Sutro. :P

Good lord, not sure if any of you have looked to the east..... Look at all the towns.

Yeah some of them are pretty massive now.

In order to unlock respec, you need to finish that quest with the Indian that requires 3 Leather and 3 Trout, just FYI.

After that you need to win a duel and then have $170 and a Blue Bandana.

Working on that one now.  (Edit: Fucking deer, I still need leather for the moccasin one too.)   Happily, the prereq for the leather/trout quest (getting 9 toughness) is bugged and gave me credit for completing it when I hadn't, so I didn't have to waste a big pile of skill points on it.   :awesome_for_real:

Some of the first few quests were bugged for me in the same way, pretty nice.

BEWARE OF THE DUEL.

Don't keep clicking on it thinking it's bugged because you're not seeing any change except that you lost, like somebody did.

That is all.

Just added 30 minute to my residences queue, should be done after that.

Rock.  Will we all be able to fit in the town after that?

I will cancel mine then, until we see where you get it, as i'm still doing something else.


It will add 5 more spots.

Balls, miscalculated. 30 more minutes. Someone start working on something else.

What do we want next?

Is level 2 general store possible, or do we have to build other stuff first?

If not, I vote tailor. Stat gear seems like such a massive help. I've looted decent enough weaponry.

I've got $187 I can spare for the town (after buying my donkey) if someone wants to invite me at some point.

Constructing Lv. 1's of the Tailor and Gunsmith would be alright, but won't be interesting until we get it up to Lv. 2.  So I want to get our people in first before we start worrying about items.

I recommend building up the Town Hall to 2 and Residences to at least 3 since I think we have >10 <15 people who want to join.

By your command.

(I'm on town hall)

Another new town started up on the other side of the misspelled Caladonia. 
They don't get it.  We're not trapped in here with them.  They're trapped in here with us!

I just hit 10 and have become Mexican with $266.  Let me know when there's space in town.

Level 2 residences are done so the town should have tons of room right now.

Yeah we need Residence 3. We'll get it after Town Hall 2.

Nix, what's your nick?

I've invited who I can but we're still going to be swapping around that last slot.

There's a meme there. I can smell it.

Send me an invite if you have space. I'll be able to chip in about 200 bucks after I buy a donkey. I'll be heading back to town to sleep in about 3 hours.

Will drop ~400 in 10 minutes, if anyone's available to work.

Can I please snag an invitation back?

Quick note -

You'll need a blue bandana to finish the level 14 respec quest; one level later, you'll need a black bandana. As Bat Country does not recognize these heathen colors, the closest place I've found to get them both is one square NE of Bat Country's square.

Denmark, just north of center in that square, has the blue bandana; just slightly nw of Denmark in Empire there's the black bandana. Easy to get both with one trip.

We'll build the Tailor after the next residence and see if we don't get lucky.

Holy shit, our treasury's overflowing.   :drill:

I put up a Build Order in the Town Forum. But I want to keep most blather on here.

Tossed a roster on there too. I was tired of searching for names in this forum.

Deposited my $200 in the town bank.

I'm about still.

Char name is gotleather.

Or have you filled up again allready? :(

Oh, and I see the town has counselors, not councilors. Does this mean we can ask schild for relationship advice?

We filled up but I'm sure we can get you in after someone has deposited their cash.

I've deposited if you want to boot me for now.

You're going to have to kick yourself. There's auto-protection to prevent me from kicking someone who just joined.

Bumbling about weststats I've been looking at the best ways to get $, experience and items early on/ahead of the curve.

$$$:

45% Building Coffins - at 118 Job points, for construction/repair types.
31% Carving Out Claims - at 56 job points, for red/yellow types.
11% Milling Grains - 24 job points.

Exp:

47% Building Railroad station - at 112 job points, for construction types.
45% Exploration - at 111 job points, for general types. (also high luck)
32% Breaking in horses - at 71 job points.
25% Branding Cattle - at 49 job points.

Luck/Items:

64% Transport Ammunition - only 144 job points, dueling types.
25% Trading - 84 job points, traders.
15% Building Irrigation, 44 points.
8% Picking Corn, 24 points.

It looks to me like people aiming at Exploration could level pretty fast while getting good items and the like. I'd probably have done my skills better if I looked at this before... I might aim at branding cowboy/cattle/breaking in horses now. They use the same skills and offer a quicker path up than other stuff it seems.

OK, I've left the town again and freed up a spot for someone with money.

Should i put off joining a town until i am a certain level? Before i join a town I cant be attacked right?

I have something like 330$ available and I'm also a worker if need be to build stuff up!

Name is Leodido and I'm in the vicinity of the town.

My dude is back awake and building the town hall.

I think I screwed my stats. I'm finding it hard to get from 9 - 10. Milling is the only high XP yield task I can do.

You'll just have levels like that. Just wait it out and try for a job with decent luck; clothing helps a ton in getting better jobs.

Aside from Stream fishing, what else has high luck around level 9?

Why on earth are you doing stream fishing? It gives no exp at all.

It's got pretty high luck, but I don't think that's worth it.  When I hit that slump I just went for jobs that had the greatest XP %, rotating it out to make sure my motivation stayed over 90%.  Eventually I got over the hump and I was able to do more quests (which is far and away the best XP source).

It's worth noting that it's probably a bad idea to queue up more than 2 hours of branding cattle at any one time. Got smacked just as hard as Lore did with a lot fewer health points. Happily, I got my horn in that time.

Town hall is done. Need more monies for the next part.

Yeah, Town Hall got another 16%, hah. It's not bad if we raise Town Hall, makes the rest easier.

But Residences 3 would be great so everyone can be invited now.

That's next on the list, just need the cashola.

I've got about $200 I can spare in my donkey fund if someone wants to churn me through residency.

Leodido's got the latest invite. We're working on Residence 3 now so we can have more people in at a time.

thanks for the invite, I've made a deposit of 300$ to the town treasury fyi.

Shall I work on the residence? I'm a builder!

Am I ever going to need a fishing rod?  I've just found one and apparently it's a pretty rare drop.  Is it safe to sell it?

Someone who seeks spoiling information could probably tell you better than I. I haven't checked out higher level quests but I am hanging onto those handcuffs I got in an early quest since someone mentioned it.

Is the fishing rod worth a lot of money? For 10 or 20 bucks I'd just hold on to it myself.

Have about 450 + stuff to sell.  Need donkey.  Rest is for town.

I just hate having lots of crap cluttering up my inventory.   :-P  Wish there was some sort of safe deposit box for stuff I want to keep just in case but don't have an immediate use for.

So, how much is the fishing rod worth? All I got were boring crappy useless fish when I went fishing.

$21 to sell.  Maybe it'll show up in the general store someday and I won't have to worry about having sold off the only one in the world.

$300+ getting dumped in about 20 minutes.

I have 750$.  Would prefer waiting for the residences but I could take a turn if money is needed.

I left the town, so there's a slot open.

Musashi first. once he says he leaves I'll toss Aez an invite. We'll have mostly everyone after Residences are finished.

Have $500 but need a donkey.  I can wait till residences are ready unless you need the cash now.

We can swap people in, get your donkeys, and deposit your cash, no problem. I think our original roster of 15 has grown to 20+ though.

Out of curiosity, does anyone have any idea about how many construction points you need to have to make useful (i.e., not just throwing cash down the crapper) progress on construction? I don't have crap in construction but I have serviceable leadership and repairing.

Is it possible to buy stuff?  I have a couple of quests which looks impossible for my class.

The way the system is designed, it seems like if anyone but the person with the highest construction skill is working on your buildings, cash is going down the crapper.  Cash is charged by the time put in, but building progress is measured by labor points per time put in.  So if you have 5 labor points and Bloodworth has 50, it'll take you 5 hours and cost $600 to make the same amount of progress Bloodworth would make in 30 minutes with $60.  You're better off putting your money in the treasury and letting someone who can build use it up.

Whenever my motivation is over 90%, I build stuff.

Edit: Also, goddamn, 3 leathers in one haul on the damn tanning quest. Word. I am OK with that.

Wow lucky on the leathers. I spent all day yesterday on that one until my motivation was under 80 and got nothing.

Yea, I did that about 2 days ago. >_<

Is 80% the threshold of when you start to really suck?

It's just performing at 80%. You get 80% of the cash, 80% of the XP, etc. Not sure if you have 80% of the listed % to get items.

No clue really, I don't do anything if I'm below 90%.

Got my $650, bumbling around waiting for a time to deposit anf get my donkey too. Annoying as I need the next level to get the stats to go cowboy and go on a real quest run, too :(

Just got invite after night of drunken WoW raiding.  On my way to town will deposit and drop tomorrow morning.  YEA DONKEY

building residence again, but after that I'll be out of money I can leave the town if needed

Got Donkey.  Deposited like 385.  Can drop now if needed as my soldier's construction is zip.  Don't know how to drop.

An invite would be handy if there is room. I have much $$ to share and need to get a donkey to move this quest chain along. /begs

I don't think I have cash to donate, but I need a cheap donkey as well. I doubt there will be any funds left after that purchase...  :ye_gods:

(Hlem)

ran out of moneys
am not building anymore
residence near done

I hope you can't get dueled and lose my money w/o being in a town... I'm carrying a bit much.

You should really come back to town and deposit it, I'm about to start on the last leg of residences which'll empty the coffers again.

Not a member as yet, which is why it's piled up. Need someone to toss me an invite. I'll still be in the area for the next bit, stream fishing and the like.

Does anyone know where a Blue bandana is avaliable in the area?

We're hoping to get one with our Tailor.

Lamaros I booted someone to make room. What's your username? It's not lamaros.

Someone posted on the previous page about the bandanas we'll need for quests. You'll need a Black Bandana as well. Apparently the closest place to get them are two towns a couple of hours away called Denmark and The Empire. I was there yesterday and picked them up. Cost me about 100 dollars total.

Oh and to get the quest to recognize that you have the bandana you need to be wearing it.

gotleather. Msged you in game from him.

Invited you, lam.

Danke, deposited. Left town again. Just reinvite when the next residences are up.

They'll be up in 2 hours. As long as I don't get screwed on build points, I average around 38-40, and we need 34. So, things should go well. I have tailor queued up next.

So, I'm thinking. Does praying have some influence on how good the items you get in your shops are? Some people on the west forums seem to think that having high motivation and praying can get you better items when completing a shop.

haha so unlikely

I sent out as many invites as I could with emphasis on those who haven't gotten invites yet.

I fail at life but how can I donate money to the town?

Click on the Bank and enter how much you want to give the town under "Town Treasury" and click the Deposit button beside it.

I don't see any bank.  Only hotel, saloon, post and general store.

EDIT : haha, I closed the overlapped window. wow.

How/Where would I see that invite  ?

In the reports window.


I gave 1100$. 

Can you respec? I really shot myself in the foot getting level 10.

You get a quest for it at 14 or 15. It must be one of the harder ones though. I'm level 16 and haven't finished it. It's probably one of the quests that needs those damned deer hides.

Bandanas or Headbands?

I need a black headband.  The closest place I've seen is The Empire, rectangle northeast of us. 

Denmark sells blue headbands.

So does The Beastro, rectangle directly north of us.

Ah right it's headbands. I didn't know Beastro had one of them but I had to go all the way to Denmark anyway and the Empire is only a two minute walk from there.

So what has the dueling situation been lately? Are people still waking up dead and penniless?

I haven't been dueled once yet.  I try to deposit all my earnings in the treasury regularly anyway.

Hopefully we have more housing coming?  It seems Bat Country numbers are growing fast.

Mo money, mo housing.

(edit) We have room for one more right now, looks like.  Also, we have a tailor, and some of these new rags are actually an upgrade!  Sweet.

Me too. Really need to focus a bit more from now on.

Oh, and if I could finally get an invite, I could finish that donkey-quest and reach level 10.

Not that I am impatient or something.  :awesome_for_real:

I'm in the area. I have only got around donkey money so far, but if town needs cash in the near term, I can donate first, donkey later.

I'm in on this too, only lvl 2 though and still going through the noob quests.  It put me only 3 hours away from Bat Country though, for when it's time to head there. 

Character name: Hawkbit

Sent an invite to Hlem. Beastro and Copper Springs to the north have Blue and Black Headbands for $80 / $16 apiece.

Thanks, I'll accept once I am finished with those fences (30m + travel time)

Shall I leave the city as soon as I got the donkey  ? I read it flags me for PvP ?

Don't worry about it, we need to build new residences anyway.

Tailor done.

As an additional quest-related pseudo-spoiling note, I guess,

Level 10 and a Soldier! Yipeee!  :awesome_for_real:

Looks like I will skip those quests...  :ye_gods:

Wow, the quest reward for the first class quest kicks ass...

Silver Star Medal
+4 Horseback riding
+8 Tactics
+7 Appearance

Now I can brand cattle 25% xp, YAY!!  :drill:

Ok, so this is about the bandana/headband stuff.

Blue Bandana (needed for level 14 skills change quest):
Romania (1 block N)
Denmark (1 block NE)

Black Headband (for level 15 quest):
The Empire (1 block NE)

Unless I've got this wrong and missed something you should go NE to get these two things, as there is no Black Headband to the north of us. So what Lorekeep said is not correct! (got the headband/bandana colours mixed up).

Is there anywhere i can get a "mule" without paying 1k in cash?

By being a member of a town with a General Store!

I got some cash to donate if a slot opens up - I know I missed my invite chance earlier, but the window was only 6 hrs long!

Looks like we need one more level of Residences at least, whats the cost to build it out another level?

Just saw that there are some good +vigor clothes avaiable once we reach tailor 5.

Time. We can swap one slot as we get cash but we should be getting the rest of the 100 point buildings in for completion's sake.

The dueling mechanic in this game is a piece of crap. I just almost killed myself by hitting the duel button 3 times in row trying to complete a quest because it didn't tell me I was losing hit points.

Uh oh. Looks like respeccing costs $50 a point and increases by 10. So, not cheap. $250 per attribute point.

I guess the plus side is there's no level cap, so eventually any mistakes you made in your first 10 levels will be made irrelevant by all the points you used in your next 100 levels.

If any of us make it to level 110 other than subscribers, I will eat one of those brown rag shirts from the game.

I'm going to need you to tell me exactly how you're going to make good on that bet before I take you up on it.  Are you going to go to Goodwill and try to find a real-world approximation, or are you going to eat your monitor?

I will print it, cut out the shirt and eat that.

Alternatively, I can put it on a microsd card.

We will figure it out when someone hits level 109.

Life-size?

As found in the hit game, The West.

So, an inch tall like it is on the screen?  I need to calculate whether the endgame is worth the grind here.

I won't season it (possible seasonings include but are not limited to one of the follow: pepper, soy sauce, thai chilis, chocolate).

You should use it as a Miang Kum wrap.  Wrap up some lime, peanuts, shallots, and coconut in there.  Man. . that sounds so good I might do it without a wager. 

Edit: Oh also, I'm still available as a resident with about 400 bones available for town use.  I just unlocked Cattle Branding so my leveling is about to take off like a rocket.  But this crazy Indian keeps hunting me down and dueling me, even though all I got is this broken bottle.  What an asshole.

Make sure to use 120 # acid free paper, for that nice crisp snap.

I'm up to around 450 gold now - so I can afford to buy an ass and donate $200. Of course, once I have the ass, I can probably contribute even more, since the rewards later in that chain are in gold (and I already have the corn). Guess I should try to unlock cowboy in the meantime. Or turkey hunting. Or tanning.

Who is it ?

Yes, we should definitely keep track of assholes, since we'll soon have a mortician and be able to exact revenge.   :drill:

No, it's an NPC.  Fighter of the Red Hand.  He does like 50 damage to me every round, so I'm of the opinion that I'm too low level for this quest.  Or I need a Clint Eastwood-style boiler door under my clothes or something.  Fortunately, he doesn't take any of my cash after he kills me.

NPCs don't change how they hit you each round. If you're having trouble beating him, adjust your defenses to match up with where you are being hit, and change the attack pattern you're using. After 2 or 3 different setups you should be able to get him.

I'd love for that to be the case, but he hits me in places I dodge away from about 50% of the time, and he takes half my life per hit, so . . .

hay guyz.

Pick a construction project and stick to it.

1. Mortician (on virtue that it's just about done)
2. Tailor 2 (on virtue that it's just about done)
3. Town Hall 3
4. Residences 4

I did kill myself, lost my wad of $250 and a day spent resting.

It stinks.

It's not the dueling mechanic, it's the fact that the header doesn't update with your life/xp/etc after you do stuff.  It's a significantly less irritating, but still irritating, problem with gaining xp.

I log out/in after most everything.  The refresh rate sucks and it is important for us to know levels of xp/health/energy and such.

Hm relogging shouldn't be necessary though. Doesn't it update if you go to, say, your character sheet?

Just hit f5 after you do something.

I just nailed the Mortician at 100%.

Also, we're out of money. Oh, and uhmm that other thing is done, whatever it was.

I got $500 if someone wants to give me a slot for a bit tomorrow.

THREE TURKEYS IN ONE DAY!  Take them, Indian dude.  Show me the way to the purple dot of your grandfather.

If you get any good stuff in the new Tailor/Store ranks let me know. Not in town so can't see atm.

You can see what it has for sale without being in town. You just can't actually buy anything.

Hmmm, nothing that I haven't seen dropped occasionally (like the shirt I'm wearing). Shoes are decent. Level 3 looks to yield better stuff.

You can't see the most recent two levels. Only level 1 up to current level -2.

In town you can see the lot.

Oh really? Sorry for the misinformation.

I was sticking to the original list. Mortician is now done, and we should focus on the town hall for one more level.

Got corn & steak, so lack of donkey is now holding back 170xp. If I can get a quick in/out to town I can knock that out and deposit a further $320 for building things.

Getting the donkey would be great. 

Am I the only person who cannot seem to get one of those indian necklaces?  Getting one would make some of this so much easier...

Yes, I found the blue one on one of my very early quests and it's awesome.  I've seen some of the big towns selling them in their stores if you really want one and are willing to pay cash for it.

I just left the town to free up a spot for one of you.

adding insult to injury I AM A FREAKIN INDIAN!

Omigod some of the stuff in our new level 2 tailor is awesome.

Awesome, finally some decent footwear. I hadn't gotten any boots upgrades except for one quest.

Walking to town now. Once I sell duplicate and low level weapons, I should have $500 to donate.

Left town so that Pezzle can get an invite.

Any policy on dueling?  I just lost my first duel to an higher lvl dueler.  Can I start dueling random town, would it cause a diplomatic incident for Bat County?

Diplomacy? What's that?

Duel away.

What is the worst that could happen ?

That we all get knocked unconscious every 48 hours ?  :awesome_for_real:

Honest question, actually.  :ye_gods:

Pretty much.

Wow.  I don't know what workers are supposed to do vs soldiers and duelers.  I hope there is diminishing return based on your dueling lvl.

Not complaining, it's easy money and good xp.

My level is 18.  So is my dueling level, despite the fact that I have no skills in dueling at all. 

Sheep for the wolves, I guess.

You could slowly respec into combat skills once the town's done.

Why does my dude look like Gary Busey?

Gah, lost 50 bucks in a duel. Need a real gun and some skillz...

The boots you have atm are from town? If so someone squeeze me an invite at some point! :)

I can finally hunt turkey! Woo. Now I just need the darn leather tanning to work.. got it all the way down to 75% without another drop.

The awesome +1 strength brown shoes Lorekeep has on right now are a quest reward.  New stuff in the tailor is brown and black ragged shoes, red and blue ponchos, and brown and black caps.  I think everything else was there at level 1.

Ah ok, cheers. Looks like nothing that would be super useful to me at the moment then.

Are there any ranged weapons in the store?

Hey, some sumbitch named Ragtag dueled me and stole $3.  And he's at our town right now.  :mob:

Our gunsmith is only level 1 so what you see is what you get.

Yeah Ragtag got $50 out of me.

Join town, complete quest without reading and lose enough money to deny a mount.  Go make money, get mugged by random guy losing more money.  Great day for me!  Is there some way we can disguise town membership?

What's Ragtag town?  Where is it?  Maybe I can get some cash back. 

On a positive note I'll soon donate 150$ to town, all from duel.  We should break event with enough soldiers/duelers.

She's still at our town.  Click on her name and it shows you her town and where it is.

Is there now extra space to join? I have enough for a mule (im only level 9) but cant other then my inventory trash have nothing extra.

Two random people dueled me today.  They both lost.  Both were lower level than me, and I suspect, retarded.  But I bring their money to town.

Do we have anyone that likes to duel? Ragtag attacked me a second time and is hanging around our town farming.

I think we need to appoint some town defenders to discourage foreign duelers. We should let them hold on to enough money so they can buy some decent equipment for it when it's available rather than donating every penny to the town the way most of us have been.

Ragtags equipment isnt much better than what you can find at low levels. Little bit of an upgrade from a slingshot.

I went to bed (IRL) before Samwise's post.  SO I missed Ragtag.  Anyone can look in his report and tell me the town of Ragtag?  You can also center on his town and tell me the location.

Townhall at 99.6%, I don't have enough money to finish it, bank is empty.

Vasilkov its one grid north of bat country. Mideast of that square.

People should write down Name. Hometown and if possible the attack/dodge setup of the attacker.
(I read you can see this if you look at the duel-report, can't find it)

Also, it might be a good idead to change your setup in the duel tab, to easy to kill you with the default dodging setup.

edit: Looks like there is no default setup.Seems to be generated at random upon entering the world the first time.  Nevertheless if you keep your head down, they are less likely to knock you out because they can't hit you in the high damage places.

Ragtag is a beast. Also, your friendly mortician (that's me) got attacked over night by mark11, from south of heaven (town).

We need to put a posse together!

EDIT: you can see where you were hit take a look at the icons on the left and right, also hitting HTML view will show you slightly more detail.

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/7599/ganked.png)

Question:  Is it more likely to get an item if I have a lot more labor points in the task?

I keep Guarding the Fort in hopes of securing a Union Jack (3% drop rate).  Do my chances to get that flag ever go up past 3%?

It must.  My screen shows a 2% rate.

3% is the rate with the "better earner" premium thing, which you can get a few days of as a quest reward.  Base rate is 2% and I don't think it goes up.

So the only thing extra points help with is decreasing danger?

Decreasing danger and increasing cash earnings.  At least according to the tooltips.  XP and drops appear to be constant.

Since you are in a question answering mood, are soldiers and workers the only groups that get a level 10 class item?

I'm an adventurer and I don't have one.  So, maybe?

Adventurers rise up!
 :angryfist:

Anyway, I should have my donkey fund soon and will leave so others can get invited.  I meant to give the rest of my cash to town but that did not work out.  I will donate whatever is left over.  We need level 4 residences (and maybe even 5?) for the rest of Bat Country!

Adventurers don't get to dictate what we need, especially when they're running a "donkey fund"

I would like to note at this time that 3 of the top 4 treasury contributors are adventurers.  Those quests rake in phat cash, and most of it is going straight to the treasury.  FWIW.

I wouldn't mind having a bigger bank, myself.  Some of the quests want you to accumulate money in excess of what the level 1 bank holds, and if we're being vultured for our wallets that might get difficult.

Obviously. But building requires money. Until a city is built up, the crafting class is basically a bot for whenever adventurers and others pull in cash. That is to say, we'll obviously get to everything, but Pezzle was being a knob.

Yes.

I've been hanging around the city and doing quests.  Not doing too bad so far.  My character is StDrahcir.

Ok.  Wild West theorycraft time. 

What's the difference in benefit between doing a job for 10 minutes vs. an hour, or two. 

For instance.

Picking sugar cane.  Underneath the sugar thingey it says 100%.  Does that mean that say, if I need 5 sugar for some strange Indian recipe, that I can get away with queuing it 5 times for 10 minutes?  If I do it for an hour will I get one for sure?  Or will I get six.  In other words.  How does this shit work?

That donkey is THE major investment needed to advance that story arc. And the shoes which are the final award now allow me to hunt turkey, which are a big part of several story arcs after that. So don't give him a hard time because his main goal is getting that donkey (especially if it cuts down travel time, which it does). Donkeys are serious business.

Speaking about business, I just startet a construction job with my own money, but figured it would be better to give the money to the town. So I cancelled. Looks pretty weird in the Bank report but it is my own money I got back.

Also I donated 280 $, no need to feed that guy more money than necessary.  :grin:

I think the % chance for products is the chance, on average, that you will get one of that item with 1 hour of work.  Sometimes you'll get more than one, sometimes you'll get none, but I'm pretty sure it's per hour, not per "job".

It works similarly for cash and XP, except that the percent is the amount of XP or dollars you'll get per hour, and is not variable.  At least that's what I've observed from looking at my job reports; I'm inferring the products thing from those observations.

Unrelated: I've realized something that may have been obvious to everyone else.  If you need to save up lots of money to buy something big or for a quest or something and it won't fit in the bank but you want to keep it safe from duelers, accrue it in the form of goods, and then sell them at the store right when you need to cash in.  I need to poke around and figure out what jobs might give you goods that sell well despite having poor cash pay...

From the help...

When you work on a job for 30 minutes you have the stated probability to find the work product for this job. If you work for 2 hours you could find four items if you are really lucky.


[/quote]Unrelated: I've realized something that may have been obvious to everyone else.  If you need to save up lots of money to buy something big or for a quest or something and it won't fit in the bank but you want to keep it safe from duelers, accrue it in the form of goods, and then sell them at the store right when you need to cash in.  I need to poke around and figure out what jobs might give you goods that sell well despite having poor cash pay...[/quote]
Branding cattle is not bad in that regard. I found lots of horn doing this for xp, the drop rate is only 13%, though.

Ah, that'd explain why I get two items in an hour sometimes.  I just figured they had some sort of probability distribution that allowed for a small chance of getting more than one item in one period.

I spent all 8 levels so far into trapping so I could be an adventurer and outfit the town.  Now I wish I went duelist.

I'm in the general area of BC now, been leeching off the hotel.  :awesome_for_real:

Wait, what?  There's shoes that help with turkeys?  I need that donkey stat.  I'm now cockblocked on two separate turkey quests and I'm about 4 levels off from being able to hunt them, and that's if I dedicate every skill point to that goal.  I'll trade $400 batcountrybucks for 15 minutes of residence so I can get the cheap donkey.

Invite sent.

Brown cotton shoes: +1 strength, +3 stamina, +5 hiding.  That +5 hiding is worth 10 labor points for turkey hunting.   :drill:

Huh?  I am rabbling about the lack of a level 10 class item.  While I prefer the town large enough for us all it is hardly me demanding anything.  Builders can do their thing, I will continue to collect and donate.

And all is well with he world!

Defending the fort gives you flags which sell for like 50$.  Pretty small drop, but at that price...

He, got that flag on my first try.

I've spent more than 10 hours guarding the fort and no flag.  :uhrr:

Yeah, I need one for that stupid quest.  At a 2% drop rate you'll average a flag every what, 25 hours?  Not exactly a cash cow.

The game is better than most if not all regular multi millions dollars mmorpg.  It should get 16$ out of me for a couple of months. How fucking sad is that. 
What's the budget for that game, less then 100k?

Know what I like about this game?  It's not disrespectful of my time.  If I want to grind something for two hours, I can click the "grind this for two hours" button and walk away.  I don't even need to write a macro for it.  Civilization.  More time for min/maxing my stats and reading quest text.

Woohoo.  I got my ass and dropped $400 in the bank, per our previous agreement.

Gratz on finding your ass.

Oh, and I left, so there should be a slot open now

Im stuck in the level 9-10 limbo. Next level will unlock prospecting,guard the fort and some other high level skill. This level has taken more than the other 9 combined. :heartbreak:

Yeah leveling is a bit wonky as far as speed goes. I'm doing Lv. 22 quests that give me 10% the XP I was getting at Lv. 11.

The game actually tells you at some point early on that questing is often not the best way to advance.  Sucks for the completionist or the person who needs a quest reward.  Just gotta find the job that pushes XP the best. 

The job calculator at west stats is pretty good at that.

Right now I am going for dex/setting traps and will respec later for duelling. I suggest looking up west stats, right now there are a few quests that get much much easier if you do them in the right order, because the quest reward from one quest enables you to finish another without spreading your skill points all over the place.

Respeccing is pretty expensive. I wouldn't count on changing your skills quickly anytime soon.

Yeah, I know. That is why I am going the dex route, changing attributes is even more expensive...  :grin:

Anyone got a lot of cash that wants an invite? We're about finished with Residences 4 and can get everyone in.

If you see "Caballeros del rey" and can kill him, please do.  Motherfucker took my lunch money.

Throw me an invite. I got $700.

Done.

Lets start a list in the in-game forums.

He just attacked me too. I didn't realize you could get so much fucking experience from a duel.

The sad thing is the guy is winning duels because his stats are super buffed by equipment.

Money is in da bank.

I'm now a Mexican on a donkey who fights with a rusty razor blade.

I think I'm sufficiently scary to fuck some shit up.

Caballeros is still there.  Let me know how you get on fucking him up.

(edit) Wait, I just read the help, and it doesn't look like where the player is actually matters; you have to go to their town to challenge them to a duel.  Even if they're already at YOUR town, where you are.  What the fuck?

His level is too high for me to attack.. does that go by duel level or by regular level, anyone know?

I'm not a member of a town so I can't fuck him up just yet.

I do notice that he has the exact same gear I have, though.  That's kind of weird.  Imagine two Mexicans on donkeyback fighting with rusty razor blades.

I am and it sounds better than anything Epic has ever put out.

He also has a dueling level of 20 and a base lvl of 15.  I'm also 15 with the same gear, and duel level of 15.  So uh. . wtf.  I need to read up on that.  Maybe he did a quest or something that jacks it up.  If someone invites me into town, I'll drop off all my cash and kamikaze him a few times.

Duel level. How duel level is calculated...i have no clue.

We need more grunts to protect our warez and ladies! Even more when forts are patched in!

Guy killed me too, but I was already broke. 

Yeah now he's on to me. WTF?

I swapped out what I could and adjusted my defensive patterns in case he tries it a third time.

Edit: Turns out he's one of the town founders of Britannia so there isn't really any diplomacy going to happen there. I did message him to see what his response would be, whether jock-level "HAHA YOU SO LAME", internet emo "you should all die", or some level of intelligence "it's just a game dude."

You forgot "l2p nub."

So can people duel you anywhere or just in your town or what?

Are workers just free experience for soldiers and duelers?

How does this work?

People have to go to your town to duel you, but it doesn't matter where you are.

Yes, workers seem to just be free XP for soldiers and duelers.  No, there doesn't seem to be any way for your own soldiers and duelers to defend you from them, apart from hiking over to their town to challenge them (EVEN IF THEY'RE ALREADY IN YOUR TOWN).  And even then, they can avoid being dueled by sleeping in your hotel.

It's a shame, I was really loving this game but the PvP mechanics are beyond retarded.  I guess the fix is for us to build up our bank so none of us have to carry cash on our persons.  Still retarded.

I could knock you guys all out and you would be save for 48 hours  :drill:

Maybe the popular targets should just quit the town for a while and wait for him to get bored? Aside from sleeping in the hotel for free I'm really not seeing any advantage to actually belonging to a town.

Hm.  I get a 'Duel' button on Caballeros when I click on him in our town.  I can't get very far because it gives me a 'you are not a member of a town' error message.  But at least it implies that I could duel him here.

Huh? I just clicked Duel on some random in our town.... I didn't have to go to theirs...

You should be able to deny hotel access to hostile parties. If they want to recover energy to attack us, they should go someplace else.

Can you actually do the duel?  According to the help, you have to actually go to their town to duel them, regardless of where they are, but the help might be wrong.


Yes.  It is incredible that the town's hotel shelters wanted murderers.  (It's not even the energy recovery so much as the fact that they're immune to attack while sleeping.)

I just set myself up to duel the two people I could at Bat Country, I mean why the fuck not right.

Also, my building motivation is at like 84% and I didn't want to tan leather. Wooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

You mean two of the people not IN the town, but visitors right?

Sure, whatever, it's gonna take 2 hours, that's all I know. I'll probably die also.

I need a Green and Blue Indian Necklace for a quest. I have a Grey one that provides huge stat benefits.

Yeah, I'm on that one too.  They're expensive as hell, so I think we need to either wait until they show up in our general store or hope for good drops.  I've got the blue one already, and am kinda loathe to give it up tbh.

Residences are almost done. Then we'll get the next General Store. Which locations have it (just in case)?

Caballeros has offered to pay back the money he stole in duels as he's just after the experience.

Also, everything is in ze German after today's 1.18 update. :P

Anyone has a link to the class portrait?  I'd like to know which class I'm engaging in duel.

Also, try to duel worker/adventurer a couple of lvl higher than you if you are a soldier or a dueler.  I won over a lvl 17 as a lvl 13 and it gave me mad xp.

I'm just dueling people in Brittania. They have lots of people exposed.

I hope I lose all the duels.

What happens if you lose? You just lose money?

You lose some health, and some of the cash you have on hand.  Cash in the bank is safe.

I deposit all my cash every time I come to town, in small denominations. Simply because I feel it's necessary.

First victim at Brittania down. This worker is goin on a killin spree.

:uhrr:  ?

I had no money on me. I'm just being a wanker since my motivation is low in everything I need to do. I'm killing people with a screwdriver.

Apparently my dodge/attack setup is really really good, I picked everything randomly.

All we need is a duelist at home working on the buildings and the circle will be complete.

I have like 10 strength and a shitload of toughness and such. I can't dodge unless they totally miss, but I'm a killing machine.

Mein Deutch ist nich gut, sprechen sie English?

So much for diplomacy, haha.

Callabros was sorry, but I figure a show of strength might be better!

Fuck sorry, over in Britannia everything turns into German. I have a reputation to uphold.

Edit: Also, my screwdriver needs to feast on blood.

Man, I don't know what to do to hit these assholes. I've opted not to dodge to increase attack rating and I didn't hit caballeros *once* in the second duel.

Premium duel advantage inc, I guess. Quite a crafty gig they've got for themselves there. Like a mandatory competitiveness fee or some shit.

You don't really need to worry about attributes though, do you?

For attacking, the skills are aiming (dex), appearance (cha) and either vigor (str) for melee or shooting (dex) for ranged.
For defending, the skills are dodging (mob), tactics (cha) and either toughness (str) for melee or reflexes (mob) for ranged.

So provided you don't spend all your points in strength and then focus on ranged or all on dexterity and focus on melee, everything else balances out. You simply want to migrate your skill points into the above eight skills, of which two are in each attribute tree.

I actually think that because strength is good for both attack and defense and you can stack skill points against aiming and ignore shooting it gives it a slight edge if you just want to focus on one fighting style. Pumping dexterity without strength requires putting points in toughness for melee defense and health for hit points. But it isn't really important.

I keep getting the "cant join world 8 because you have a char on world 9" message. Except i don't have a character on world 9! Anyone else getting this?

Probably want to contact support on that one.

*Raises his hand*

Schild broke the duel server...  :grin:

I'm just dumping my points in mob/cha and then single points into shooting. It will probably suck for dueling, though I figure it gives me the best chance at getting good stats for jobs while also maybe being able to duel a little.

Shooting does nothing for duelling. Aim does.

Shooting affects your damage *if* you hit, and *only* if you use a gun.

Yep.  Those krauts can suck my schnitzel.

Oh ? Really ?
 :yahoo:

:ye_gods:



Don't be suprised if you wake up unconscious and broke...
 :grin:

http://en8.the-west.net/help.php?article=duell_procedure

Woops.

When you sell items in a store are those items then available for purchase?

Nope.

Im gonna start heading for bat country. After i sell all my crap i should have several hundred bucks to donate.

Residences is almost done so we'll have 5 more spots. Hope it's enough...

I think there's about 10 of us out of the city atm, at a guess. More than 5 for sure.

Finally got the flag!  Now I can start trading!

So sick of guarding the fort.  22 hours completed, no flag.

Finishing up Residences right now. Sorry about the delay, I worked until it became pointless and my building motivation was at like 83%. I'm back up to 93 now after nearly a full day off. I'll plow through the last 4 points of residences within the next half hour and then hit up the general store, can probably get it done by the end of the day if we get another $200 or so deposited.

I'm working on residences right now also (had already queued up 2 hrs on them), and have 2.5 hours queued up for the General Store.

You know, it really sucks that you can't see who is building what and how long they have....

This game is pretty crappy. If it weren't for this thread I'd have lost interest days ago.

Oh goddamnit, I was looking at the percentage and not the bricks required. Just added in an hour. >_< Stupid residences.


I'm not sure what the game is yet, but it requires so little thought or input that I've no reaosn not to play it. It's far less intensive than Nile Online or 1100AD

I was on the wrong world (9). I am 8 now, character name is Lefteye. I'll look up for you all.

I would be very surprised at that, unless I was unconscious. :awesome_for_real:

I'll try to get in again tonight.  I think I will also re-read this thread and see if I can figure out how to level up.

Finding stat loot is fun. I just got a neckband that gives me +9 Shooting.

NOW try to duel me, mother fuckers. ><

Sent out five invites to people at the town who weren't affiliated. I'll put up a new build order since we're going to need Residences 5.

Trade you for something, that'd get my Shooting skill to 19....

The rate you acquire exp for dueling is insane.

That'd get my shooting skill to 19 too.

If people are hanging around our town, ya, you get a lot from dueling since you can spend 12 energy, get XP, then rest such that you are making a marked increase in hourly regeneration instead of the normal 3 / 4.5 per hour.

I got my first diplomacy e-mail. Apparently you guys have been naughty. :P Anyone attack Lemonz? New Avalon thinks we're an aggressive force. Mwahaha.

New Avalon is right.

Can you trade items between players? Like say i need some beans for a quest but am unable to pick them myself.

Nope. That would allow some pretty bad twinking.

I shouldn't have picked duelist. The bonuses are complete crap compared to some of the others. Really gives me no advantage in duels at all.

But but but but you can duel faster!

Yeah seems kinda meh.

Trading is Serious Business.

Guarding the fort
Hit by a bullet for 1 damage

Hunting turkey
Pecked for 111 damage


What the hell are those turkeys eating?

The blood of pioneers!

Got around 90 exp in 2 hours. Would have been 130 but i lost a duel to a last round lucky strike. How exactly does one begin their class quest? Does it branch off from the normal quests in the saloon?

You guys know you can see your available 'work' items by opening the Work window and clicking on 'Money' or 'Exp' to see which ones give you the most, right?

 :drill:

     Premium advantage:
With the 'Automation' premium bonus you get a list of all your available jobs.

I see you gave them money, Viin.

No, you get a few days of Automation for completing a quest. They let you sample the RMT for free. But that list is handy so I  decided to renew once it stopped showing up. Fuckers. If it was just the 4 queue I wouldn't do it.

Is there any strategic reason to found the towns around us?  There's a lot of spots real close.

None. We don't have the resources to control all the town points.

Just requested an invite for a little bit to you, Lorekeep.  Please. 

OK, big question ahead...  How are you building your characters for what you want to do?  I originally wanted to be a trapper to fund the town, so I pumped a bunch into Dex and traps.  I'm a level shy of being able to hunt turkey, but I can't do anymore quests because I don't have the skill.  I'm stuck on the beans and repairing fences.  So do I just suck it up and grind out this level slowly, or what?  I have a feeling that although they said you can't mess things up in the early game, I actually did. 

Maybe I should start over as a duelist/soldier. 

I admit, I did. It is really useful, so is queuing up 4 jobs (approx 8hrs worth) while at work. It's pretty cheap to get automation for 2 weeks, something like 5 gold nuggets or $1.90.

The full set of Premium Bonus's (4 of them) for 2 weeks costs $7.45, or $14.90 a month. But you really only need 1 or two, it's really pretty cheap. (Nice they give you the option to buy just want you want/need for whatever you are doing at the time, keeping the monthly cost down if you don't buy it all).

Here's a screenie of what the Work screen looks like with the Automation bonus:

(http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/42220/TheWest-Work.png)

edit: what you can't see is column headers, which allow you to sort by any of the columns. Here it's sorted by Money.

I'm starting to get angry telegrams from carebears. :grin:

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Ah hahahahaha. So it's YOU. :P

Well, what do you want me to do? I can tell him "If you play dead he might stop pawing your corpse and run off. Or he just might curb stomp you. You can never tell with these savages."

I'm not sure our stats are high enough to be a bully, though we technically are the dominant force in the county.

You should tell them to stop being victims. Any of those builders should have a high enough strength to duel effectively with a melee weapon, I do. And I'm lethal.

I could alternate counties for my duel runs if you want to avoid pissing off neighbors.  I was staying close to cut down on travel time.

Is your interface laggy/bugged?  I can't change my duel stance.

If duel is in the queue you cant alter the settings.

Ok thx.

OK, told em to fuck off. We're PvP-Flagged now. :)

Multiple bat country folk basically just sit in the towns near us farming them. Ive noticed several duelists of ours bouncing around the same spots. How do i get my duelist quest weapon?!

Boy you guys sure are pissing off the locals. :) Are you gonna respect a Treaty if I put one in place?

Aez in particular is pissing off new Avalon something fierce.

Im just dicking around till im big enough to head east. Im a level 10 weakling havent even seen someone from avalon. One guy who i dueled twice has apparently left his town for to be safe. I figure the smart tactic is to have all the combat people get strong then head pretty far east so retaliation becomes a choir.

East? Everyone's like in the fucking east. We're already west. We've got good roots here. We ain't movin.

I have no problem respecting a treaty. 

EDIT : we could plan a little surprise on New Avalon.  We wait until 5-7 of us a rdy to duel, we all move to New Avalon, someone duel their lvl 20 duelist and post the result.  The other 6 use the info to fuck him up.  Sounds fun.

Woohoo, I got the stupid flag. :)

Lost my first duel, against "Jake Frost".  :awesome_for_real:

Woot.  We have +Fine Motor Skill and +Animal Instinct necklaces up in the general store.  Those are. . useful.

You dont seem to understand. Targets for dueling in abundance in the east. They have to move a huge distance to retaliate. If you are a duelist nothing gives more exp/cash. So you can unload your bar of energy in 15 mins then rest. As opposed to having to trek all around our sparse little corner.

I don't understand dueling, but I do know that each person to challenge me has lost. I have a boomerang for fucks sake. A BOOMERANG! Oh well, I like the money. What skills should I be hitting for? I have crazy high shooting and aim, some put into tactics and dodging.

When attacking "appearance" is the stat used. Defending its tactics. Jake frost is 4 levels higher than me and i only have a slingshot. :cry: Toughness is the defense stat used against melee. Dodge versus ranged.

Had a nice little duel (which I lost :grin: ) with their top duelist, this is what he had to say during our brief conversation.

"why are you guys attacking our weakest member? that show kind of poor non classy strategy. attack me instead. how about it? in fact tell your town i want to be your main focus when dueling. or find an opponent whom you could beat."

 :awesome_for_real:

edit: Duh. His name is "studgunner3"

Their weakest member is 3-4 levels higher than me. I dueled every single available member of their town till i ran out of energy and won every time. Jake Frost (from the same town) was 3 levels higher than me yet had no qualms attacking me. Go duel the level 15-18 guys in his town they have about 30-50% life. If they drop to 0 all their work and money is forfeit.

What happens when one actually dies?

All cash he has on hand vanishes. I dont believe the challenger gets it all by default. All activities they have queued are canceled without having the action points refunded. And i believe they are returned to their home town. You can basically cripple a towns ability to do anything by just knocking out their workers over and over. Is there anyway to exchange money? So we can try to ransom them?

Yeah, I probably lucked out today. I got nailed for 169 from a duelist and I was working on breaking in horses at the time (52 percent danger). I canceled it after an hour and didn't take hits. But if I had...

Ok, that's a funny one.
Studgunner3, New Avalon's highest dueler, trash talks me with a telegram. He tells me I should prepare for perpetual defeat. He then proceed to give me a free 60 xp.
hahaha.


(http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/a2b10c9a45.jpg) (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

It's hilarious if you read his telegram :

Awesome! That town gave me near 2 full levels of exp today. Sadly, they had dick for cash.

Edit: This is that guys towns MOTD

I want to have fun loosing.

Wut?

Can I get an invite to the town so I can buy a Donkey for cheap? I'll dump extra cash into the town bank and leave to keep slots free.

Character is Torinankh.

That Blue Indian Necklace is needed for a quest so yay to that, and Yellow is better than what I had for a pure AI Necklace.

Toss me an invite when you have room, would like to shop some.

Just dropped out of town to free up an invite. Hopefully, the next level of residence will finally let us all in.

I'm terrible.  Caballeros and then Ragtag made mincemeat out of me (especially Ragtag).

I don't really care, though.  As far as I can tell, I lost very little cash (I carry very little cash).

Jake Frost is back.  Get him!

Thanks for the invite, got my donkey and some random goodies, and donated $300 to the town before leaving to free up a slot.

Bank needs an upgrade, i have to much money on my person.

Really? I don't have this problem (though, how much is too much?) and I'm a few levels higher than you I think. Are you selling all your excess items or something? (I'm hanging on to pretty much everything for packrat and quest reasons).

Any money you have on your person is at risk of being stolen when someone duels you.  I try to keep zero cash on hand at all times.

Well the town has been too full for me to be a member for any more than 3mins so far, so I'm not worrying about the dueling thing as yet. :)

Jack Frost quited New Avalon.

I love true pvp game.

Probably from me walking an hour and a half just to slap him around. Apparently he was just about to sleep too.

:why_so_serious:  Nice job.

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Quick question - how many construction points are you builders getting for, er, building? I got 47 for two hours on the hotel (go go +13 construction necklace) and I was wondering if that was competitive with what ya'll get.

Yay better hotel!   :drill:  The difference is noticeable.

At 79% efficiency I got 41. My construction is 25.

30 hours spent guarding the fort.  Still no flag.

Haven't yet hunted a turkey either.  Still about 7 points short.

I feel your pain, Xanth. I don't know how many hours I've guarded the fort, but I'm sure it's north of 20. I'm RMT tricked, so I'm definitely behind the fucking odds on that one.

Finally got through lvl 9, that took days.  lvl 10 allows me to brand cattle and hunt turkeys, so I'm gaining xp like mad now. 

At what point do our residences grow enough so we can all stay in town?

Holy shit, I got a flag.

I think our next level of residence should be enough for everyone.  We don't have more than 25 people, do we?   :ye_gods:

I can leave town if someone else needs the slot while residence 5 gets done.  Anyone need in?

Oh wow, level 2 bank is a big step up.

If I knew it was that big I'd have placed extra priority on it.

Just for the record schild:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpsKKPuTYCI

What job will give you a Glass of Water?

Laying Railroad.

Holy shit I found one of those note pieces while trading.   :ye_gods:  They're worth like $300.  Do any quests need them?

I finally got a flag. 

32 hours of fort guarding.

Funny, I got a flag after only a few hours.

Can we upgrade the weaponsmith soon, daddy needs a new gun.

Soon. After residence 5 we're focusing on stores.

Gosh, this game is rough when your nuggets run out...

I haven't bought any nuggets yet.   :awesome_for_real:

Now I know how bloodworth kept up with me ;)

OMG HAX!  :grin:


This game deserved the money I gave them (about 7.50$). Tempted to re-up.

The duelers we're attracting are starting to get lethal. It's because we have so many town members. This Jannokas is being an asshole and it says I have to travel two hours to his town to take him out.

Pick a city....and raid it.  :drill:

We can just start with the one right to the left of us. They seem ripe.

I doubt that we could do much to them.


Name                D-Lvl
Greta Garbo     12     0     Duel not possible
njnj1            3    0    Duel not possible
Ryguy0000    1    0    Duel not possible

Well, let's start close and work our way out?