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It's been 2 weeks since the head start and we haven't heard anything about their plans going foreword. Just because the launch wasn't disaster doesn't you can stop talking with us.

What are going to about population?
Are you going to add the other 4 cities and other 4 classes?
What something the scenerios less lopsided (better scaling or DoW)?
What are going to do so Order actually has a chance of capturing IC?
What does the future hold?

This is your first Mythic game, isn't it. In about 6 months

No first someone will get nerfed. Hard. And go to the bottom of the deck to next be reviewed in 2010.

My BW alt is going to be made into paste isn't he?

Zealots are getting nerfed in tier 1 unless the patch has changed, their one skill that puts them out of line is getting moved from level 5 to 21.

Zealots are getting nerfed in tier 1 unless the patch has changed, their one skill that puts them out of line is getting moved from level 5 to 21.

No first someone will get nerfed. Hard. And go to the bottom of the deck to next be reviewed in 2010.

Actually, if there really is a repeat of DaoC, the first thing on the block is experience gain which will get a nerf under the pretext of fixing bugs.

It's been 2 weeks since the head start and we haven't heard anything about their plans going foreword. Just because the launch wasn't disaster doesn't you can stop talking with us.

What are going to about population?
Are you going to add the other 4 cities and other 4 classes?
What something the scenerios less lopsided (better scaling or DoW)?
What are going to do so Order actually has a chance of capturing IC?
What does the future hold?

Tentonhammer asked Mark some of those questions last week. http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/44816 (http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/44816)

Next time warn us that they didn't get any answers, thx.

Next time warn us that they didn't get any answers, thx.

Mark: This is another thing that involves server population and people that are willing to jump into those RvR scenarios. If you can't seem to get into the RvR scenario, that's why we have open world RvR.

But if one side wants to do open RvR and the other side doesn't, that's going to be a problem. That's a problem with any game, not just WAR. It could be something that happens on the WoW PvP servers or the Camelot servers. If guys don't want to RvR, then they have to sort it out among themselves. You can't force people to RvR. You can't force 'em to PvE.

These things will sort themselves out once we have the transfers going, then people can make the choice if they want to stay on their server or not. They might look at the servers and discover that one is a bit more PvE oriented, so they'll move to that server. But activating anything now, that's just going to make the problem worse.

Whoa there Wershlak, don't just blame Mark. TTH makes exactly zero effort to get compelling answers out of people. I hate to say this, but if all you get is fluff, sometimes it's better just not to print.

It's been 2 weeks since the head start and we haven't heard anything about their plans going foreword. Just because the launch wasn't disaster doesn't you can stop talking with us.

What are going to about population?
Are you going to add the other 4 cities and other 4 classes?
What something the scenerios less lopsided (better scaling or DoW)?
What are going to do so Order actually has a chance of capturing IC?
What does the future hold?

Just check the official forums.  I'm sure there's answers to your questions and lots of other good information and dev feedback there.   :why_so_serious:

My favorite respnse:


 :awesome_for_real:  Yes, server transfers will solve all of our problems!  Yay!

Too fucking late for that. The current state of appeal for Order is in the shithole. We're outnumbered, lacks cool factor, have midget tanks, tanks that wear dresses, a broken pet class, and overall less dmg numbers style of play. How the fuck do you transfer to an evenly matched server when all you see is Destro High or Full and the neutrals who just joined want to wear super cool dread armour or turn into emo goth elves?

Too fucking late for that. The current state of appeal for Order is in the shithole. We're outnumbered, lacks cool factor, have midget tanks, tanks that wear dresses, a broken pet class, and overall less dmg numbers style of play. How the fuck do you transfer to an evenly matched server when all you see is Destro High or Full and the neutrals who just joined want to wear super cool dread armour or turn into emo goth elves?

On the other hand, it's a hell of a lot easier for Order to level in scenarios. Also, to log in.

Sure, I'd like to play a Black Orc and smash face. But ol' Legolaslas hasn't done a single PVE quest yet!

Log in -> queue for scenario -> click accept -> prance and shoot

Why, so you, Ingmar and Sjofn can abandon me again?  :heartbreak:

Besides, making fun of Mythic is *much* more fun than playing their games.  :grin:

No first someone will get nerfed. Hard. And go to the bottom of the deck to next be reviewed in 2010.

Only thing DoK need nerfing is that tactic that negates healing 100% on all their melee crits.

Maybe it is just our server (Ostermark), or maybe it is our complete Dwarf Domination... but I have not had any of these issues either in scenarios or on the open field.  I am thinking it HAS to be our server (even though it says we are high Destro/high Order).  We pretty much dominate all of the T2/T3 keeps and we win consistently in the scenarios.  Maybe the Destro on our server are the PvE crowd Mark talks about, but who knows.

Curse of Khaine (http://www.wardb.com/spell.aspx?id=9602)

It's deep in the dps tree but it's there.

Edit: Hey look, I just noticed I hit over 1k posts recently.  Sweet, I think I'll go buy myself a cookie.

Oh, sweet, thanks. I dont have it yet, but if its deep in the mastery trees, i dont see it being touched as many may not have it.

MMORPG.com:
   

Before we get into the Careers-specific questions, can you tell us how you felt that launch went?
Jeff's Answer:
   

“We had a great launch,” he said, “and I’ve played through every major MMO launch personally and I can honestly say that our launch was absolutely head and shoulders above every one that I’ve been through.”

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MMORPG.com:
   

When and how are you going to implement the careers and cities that were cut prior to launch?
Jeff's Answer:
   

Sorry folks, there’s not set date for this just yet, but Jeff had some interesting things to say on the topic and assured us that they hadn’t been forgotten and that they would be in the game:

“We desperately want to do some of these things that we’ve pulled out of the game… We do have plans. We’ve been talking about it for months and it’s very important to us to do the right things with the game. I don’t mean to sound wishy-washy about it. We’re going to [get the classes in]. It’s just a matter of how long it takes us to do the right things to those classes. We pulled them away for a reason and that’s because they weren’t as good as they needed to be. So we’re looking at those classes hard now and we’re looking at how long it’s going to take us to make them to the point where they feel as good as the other 20 classes in the game.”

“I firmly believe,” he said “that our classes… each one feels cool and unique in and of themselves.” He doesn’t however, want everyone to like every class. He told us that his goal was to evoke emotion from players about the classes. Players should love some and hate others.”

“We’re going to launch those classes when they’re absolutely ready,” he continued, answering the original question, “hopefully it will be fairly soon., but don’t look for it in the next couple of weeks. That’s just not going to happen. We have to make these things perfect or at least as perfect as they can be.”
MMORPG.com:
   

What kind of time and resources are being dedicated to the classes / cities compared to other elements of WAR?
Jeff's Answer:
   

“I have a combat and careers team”, Jeff told me after explaining that with a team of 250 strong, there are numerous number one items on the agenda, based on the different team divisions (UI, Combat and Careers, RvR, etc.). “On that team, these careers are the number one item” in terms of forward looking things.

Jeff went on to tell us that all of their teams right now are working on “improving the experience in the game right now that players see immediately”. He told me that every morning, he has a report on his desk detailing the top issues that players are having. This report comes from QA, Community and Customer Service. Every day, they look at that list and get to work on them beginning with problems for players (little bugs or glitches) and goes from there.

“Our focus and dedication is to making the game as great as it can be for the players who are playing right now so that they can have a wonderful experience,” he explained.

According to Jeff, that means taking care of the little post-launch stuff first (bug squishing and the like). Already they can see that list lessening which will leave even more time to look at the far reaching addition of content like the careers.
MMORPG.com:
   

How do you respond to players who feel that the lack of the four cut classes is causing balance issues in the game?
Jeff's Answer:
   

“I just don’t agree with it,” he answered. “I think what you find is that, and this is perfectly understandable... I’m not calling anybody out for doing this, is that what we’re seeing is a lot of people judging the game in Tier 1 (which is again, perfectly fine, you SHOULD judge the game in tier 1), but I think everyone needs to keep in mind that that’s the first ten hours of gameplay for a game that is hundreds of thousands of hours of gameplay out there over the next couple of years. As you move up through the game, you’ll find that the mix of players starts to even out.”

He went on to tell us that there isn’t much diversity in Tier 1, but that it improves as you move up through the tiers and the mix of classes starts to even out.

“The glory and also the difficulty of an RvR based game is that it depends upon who’s there. So sometimes, even in tier 2 or 3, you’ll run a scenario or be out in open field RvR and you’ll just get stomped. It happens and sometimes it’s because people who you’re with don’t play very well, sometimes it’s because the other side outnumbers you, sometimes it’s because you don’t have the right mix of classes… that’s all part of the game though. Next time you come back, you could win for the same kinds of reasons. It all ties into what makes the game great and what makes people passionate about the game.”

“So, do I want those classes back in? Yes. Do I think it affects the game without them? I think it does, I’m not blind to it, but do I think it’s devastating without them? Absolutely not. I think the game plays so well with or without those classes that to say that the game doesn’t play very well without them is just wrong.”

 

Well, as someone who just moved to Ostermark (I play Aeric, a Witch Hunter) I can tell you Tier 1 isn't dominated like this.

Meh, not willing to give up CoX and I don't have time to dabble in two games right now.  I'm confident the shiny will wear off on this game for you all soon enough but on the off chance it doesn't, maybe I'll give it a look around Christmas.  If they have a free trial or something.  Until then, I'll just continue to mock Mythic from the sidelines.  :grin:

Curse of Khaine (http://www.wardb.com/spell.aspx?id=9602)

It's deep in the dps tree but it's there.

Edit: Hey look, I just noticed I hit over 1k posts recently.  Sweet, I think I'll go buy myself a cookie.

If you wait though, you'll end up hooked when everyone else is wanting a break.  You need to get it out of your system while they're still playing.

Disciples of Khaine nerf incoming.  :grin:

http://www.wardb.com/spell.aspx?id=1633

Though throwing out dps with a runepriest [and critting!] is much much much less likely than dps'ing as a DoK, heh. Maybe they'll just give this to WPs and call it balanced?

I don't do scenarios often, but keep an eye out for Kylantha (Disciple) since you're on my server.  I'm not telling you my Witch Elf's name for fear of you hunting her down though.

tanks that wear dresses