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Title: Prison Break
Post by: LanTheWarder on September 09, 2008, 01:43:33 PM
Speaking of shows with a 1 season story arc that were dragged on forever.

I give you Prison Break... Will anyone admit to still watching this?


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Ookii on September 09, 2008, 01:44:16 PM
Stopped a couple episodes into season 2  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Evildrider on September 09, 2008, 02:03:12 PM
I still watch this show.  They tend to draw out the season, but that's part of the whole hook.  Every episode has a cliffhanger to it, it seems.  Season 2 wasn't too bad because at least it was a short season.  The new season finally has them goiing after the big baddies. 


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: HaemishM on September 09, 2008, 03:00:56 PM
I couldn't make it through one episode.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Tale on September 10, 2008, 05:49:12 AM
I still watch this, only because I've watched them all until now. I struggled through the end of Season 2 and most of Season 3 because the writing is so preposterous, but there's just something compelling about it. There are moments of awesome, surrounded by lots of stupid.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Nevermore on September 10, 2008, 06:17:20 AM
I never got past the absurdity of being able to travel from Panama to Chicago in about an hour by boat.  It's like the writer used to be a Dungeon Master when he was a kid and never wanted to bother with traveling between dungeons.  "Ok, you're there now!"

Edit: Oh yeah, and being arrested, arraigned, tried, convicted and sentenced for a crime all in the same day.  :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: eldaec on September 23, 2008, 01:02:54 PM
OMFG I JUST WATCHED THE FIRST EPISODE OF S4 AND IT BURNS IT BURNS MAKE IT STOP PLEEEASE!




I read somewhere that whoever created this monster intended it as 40-odd espisodes. They get out prison, they escape, they live happily ever after. That would have made it an awesome show.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: KallDrexx on September 23, 2008, 02:36:42 PM
I didn't mind season 3, I found the prison environment a lot more interesting than in season 1, though the fact that it only took them 13 episodes to break out instead of 22 definitely helped.  Though that is after you get past the "why are we breaking out of another prison again" line of thinking.

Season 4 is complete  :uhrr: so far and keeps getting worse as each episode gets by.

I really think they are coming up with the story on a episode by episode basis instead of putting the first amount of thought into it.  If the series was only the first two season I would be happy with it.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Tale on September 23, 2008, 02:54:24 PM
OMFG I JUST WATCHED THE FIRST EPISODE OF S4 AND IT BURNS IT BURNS MAKE IT STOP PLEEEASE!

The most ridiculous thing was how merely being in the vicinity of a murder instantly meant "you are facing jail time" and in each case, the person instantly believed they were facing jail time. Very little explanation was given as to why (DNA evidence? witness statements?). Nobody seemed to bother protesting their innocence.

The writers also seem to have forgotten that the two main characters - Scofield and Burrows - were totally and publicly cleared of what they were originally jailed for. They were imprisoned again in Panama under Panamanian law, but that should be irrelevant. Yet in the USA, the legal system suddenly started treating them as repeat offenders, as if they were never cleared of the original US crimes.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: eldaec on September 24, 2008, 12:10:44 PM
Schofield attempted armed robbery, also broke a whole bunch of murderers, psychos and mafia bosses out of jail, and didn't get cleared of any of that.

Sara was also involved in the escape.

There is very little that Sucre isn't guilty of.

Not-Christopher-Walken was implicated in all sorts of shit, not least killing the guy under his bird bath.


Burrows is the only one with a sort of clean record, and that is if you don't count escaping from a federal penitentary.


I thought the stupidest part was 'oh, SONA burned down, and yeah, everyone is here now'.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: KallDrexx on September 25, 2008, 04:07:05 PM
I thought the stupidest part was 'oh, SONA burned down, and yeah, everyone is here now'.

Stupid company using a helicopter to break someone out of Sona when plain old fire did the trick :P


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Tale on December 19, 2008, 05:42:45 PM
Still going, brain tumours and all. Scylla looks like a piece that broke off an old games console.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Raph on December 19, 2008, 05:49:02 PM
You look for logic. There is none. It is pulp. There is no reason for logic. It is about impossible plot twists, stupid contrivances, eviler-than-evil villains, and impossible odds.

Clearly, what it needs is five more Sara's. But they seem to have written them all out except her.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Nevermore on December 19, 2008, 05:59:49 PM
Is that the same Sara who's head was cut off at one point, only to be revealed two season later: Nevermind!  Wasn't really her!  Our mistake!


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Raph on December 20, 2008, 10:14:43 PM
Yep, that one. The reason given was that the hardened convict and criminal "didn't look that close at the head" of the girl his brother loved. Whatever. Everyone knew it was contract negotiations. :)


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Ironwood on December 20, 2008, 10:44:45 PM
A great show.  Shame it stopped at the end of Season 3.  Although I'm kinda glad in a way, 3 seasons was probably the most you could get from it and you'd be extremely stupid to try and keep milking the cow.

The First Season was brilliance.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Tale on December 24, 2008, 02:18:56 AM
After suffering through season 4 and wishing it was over, I now can't wait for season 5. The final episode of S4 was great.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Tale on January 16, 2009, 05:35:53 PM
Cancelled at last (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-presstour14-2009jan14,0,860210.story). Final 4-6 episodes to air from April.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: FatuousTwat on January 19, 2009, 03:52:40 AM
Thank fucking god. After they get out it turns to shit.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Tale on April 27, 2009, 07:37:14 PM
aghaghgghaaghgagghhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Merusk on April 28, 2009, 04:36:09 AM
aghaghgghaaghgagghhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa


What?  Sooo what's this shouting all about then. Something horrifically stupid to end it, I'll assume.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Nevermore on April 28, 2009, 09:11:33 AM
They need to be thrown into the secret prison under the White House and then break out of that!


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Tale on April 28, 2009, 01:18:22 PM
aghaghgghaaghgagghhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa

What?  Sooo what's this shouting all about then. Something horrifically stupid to end it, I'll assume.

It's my tortured scream as I force myself to watch the last few episodes of this crap. I've stuck with it all these seasons, it should have finished in season 3, it's just ridiculous in season 4, but I've gotta find out how it ends.

Still 2 or 3 episodes to go.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Tale on May 21, 2009, 11:33:20 PM
BTW it ended.


There are still two missing episodes to be aired/released on DVD. They are a final subplot set between the end of the main story arc and the graveyard gathering. In the USA, they'll be released on DVD, but in the UK they'll be broadcast today, so they'll be illegal downloads tomorrow. And it all sucked as expected.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Merusk on May 22, 2009, 03:29:07 AM
Yeah I caught the last 5 mins or so and was all, "Wtf, he died?  How the hell did that happen?"  Subsequent google searches revealed all I needed to know.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Nevermore on May 22, 2009, 05:47:15 AM
This series would have been fine if it had ended after the first season.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Tebonas on May 22, 2009, 06:10:22 AM
So I can delete the 4th season I had squirreled away on one of my HDs for when I run out of interesting shows without any regret?


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: eldaec on May 26, 2009, 01:52:16 PM
Yes, also delete S3 from your mind and chant 'they got away on the boat, they got away on the boat' until you believe it.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Nevermore on August 06, 2015, 07:01:47 PM
I am necroing this thread because Fox is necroing this show. (http://www.comingsoon.net/tv/news/469133-a-new-prison-break-is-headed-to-fox)  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Yegolev on August 07, 2015, 05:07:47 AM
They will bring back this but not Beans Baxter or Herman's Head.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Merusk on August 07, 2015, 06:01:21 AM
Like films, they're looking to recycle proven ideas rather than take risks. Prison Break had some great ratings for Fox.

They're also rebooting Married with Children for the same reason.
http://www.filmfad.com/david-faustino-talks-married-with-children-reboot-at-wizard-world/



Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: eldaec on August 07, 2015, 06:29:24 AM
I will watch this knowing it will be bad, just as I watched Dexter, West Wing or 24 to the bitter end.



Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: jgsugden on August 07, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
If this is a reboot, not a continuatio, I hope they take an AHS approach and tell a new story every season. That could be godd, but a jailbreak show can't really go on much beyond the jailbreak.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: eldaec on August 08, 2015, 09:20:50 AM
They are continuing with the original leads, who are apparently in jail because reasons. They appear to be ignoring the tv movie where the main guy died.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Tale on August 09, 2015, 11:55:50 PM
I'm amazed. I watched every episode, and each one got progressively weaker. It became so bad it had to end. And then they did another season.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: jgsugden on August 10, 2015, 01:07:06 AM
Same actors does not require a continuation. It can be a reboot. Crossover with OITNB for the win.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Sir T on August 10, 2015, 02:30:56 AM
Its the "John Snow" problem. Risk adverse studio Execs don't want to risk a show without their sexy stars, so they to keep the stars they know work, and would have aneurysms about a show with a totally untried cast every season. Also it makes it easier to sell merch if you have the same faces.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Ruvaldt on August 10, 2015, 04:42:48 AM
While I agree with your point, how is that tied to Jon Snow or Game of Thrones?  GoT/HBO has shown many times over that it doesn't matter how popular a character is, they're perfectly willing to kill them, and usually in the most brutal fashion possible.  The fact that Jon Snow is returning in some form doesn't have anything to do with risk aversion or HBO execs getting squeamish.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: jgsugden on August 10, 2015, 07:58:05 AM
... and then there is True Detective, American Horror Story, Fargo, The traditional tv model is evolving. They've had successful shows with casts that changed every episode in the past, too (Twilight Zone). The big networks are usually slowest to change, but they sometimes take big leaps... every few years or so.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Merusk on August 10, 2015, 10:47:10 AM
While I agree with your point, how is that tied to Jon Snow or Game of Thrones?  GoT/HBO has shown many times over that it doesn't matter how popular a character is, they're perfectly willing to kill them, and usually in the most brutal fashion possible.  The fact that Jon Snow is returning in some form doesn't have anything to do with risk aversion or HBO execs getting squeamish.

Yeah that was written into the books and storyline from the start. Diehard book-readers knew Jon wasn't dead, we were just surprised he got stabbed and there's going to be some sort of twisted convolution to get him alive again.  Which, in retrospect makes perfect sense. Jon needs to not be an oathbreaker and his vow was to stand on the wall until he died - which he did.

None of his resurrection has anything to do with being a popular character and everything to do with who he is meant to be in the over-arching plot, which gets super spoilery.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: tazelbain on August 10, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
And Melisandre seems to have a thing for him, blood magic users seem to have that power.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Sir T on August 10, 2015, 03:48:02 PM
Well really it was due to a conversation I had with a friend of mine and my sisters who were surprised that they had let Jon Snow die as he was a popular character, and that they might find a way to bring the character back. My sisters had read the books too.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Tebonas on August 11, 2015, 07:28:12 AM
They don't have to "find a way" to bring him back. The exact way to bring him back was already established with Beric Dondarrion.

You have a fresh corpse and a Red Priest. You also have a Woman with a prophecy and a possible target for said prophecy.

You really can't have much more foreshadowing since we first met Thoros of Myr without it being too much on the nose.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Ironwood on August 11, 2015, 09:23:40 AM
They don't have to "find a way" to bring him back. The exact way to bring him back was already established with Beric Dondarrion.

You have a fresh corpse and a Red Priest with exceptional tits. You also have a Woman with a prophecy and a possible target for said prophecy.

You really can't have much more foreshadowing since we first met Thoros of Myr without it being too much on the nose.

Just thought I should clarify some points.


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: jgsugden on April 10, 2017, 02:35:59 PM
Anyone watching the revival? Any good?


Title: Re: Prison Break
Post by: Tale on April 10, 2017, 09:40:46 PM
Anyone watching the revival? Any good?

Wikipedia says: On review aggregator Rotten Tomatoes, the season has an approval rating of 52% based on 21 reviews, with an average score of 6.6/10. The site's critical consensus reads, "Prison Break recaptures some of its old urgency in its return, but familiar faces and frenetic action aren't enough to make up for a plot that manages to bore while beggaring belief." On Metacritic, the season has a score of 48 out of 100, based on 18 critics, indicating "mixed or average reviews".

Not inspired to give it a look. The previous final two seasons were terrible and I only just made it through ("bore while beggaring belief" would describe those too, and a slide in the acting quality). With Netflix and its competitors to choose from these days, and everything else that's on demand, there's no way I would watch those seasons now.