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Title: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 17, 2008, 07:44:22 PM
List em, jerks!

(will send a list off to Funcom after a week or two)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: ShenMolo on May 17, 2008, 07:52:38 PM
-Groupmate icons need to be larger on the Minimap
-Boss mobs drop NO (read: nothing) loot (at least not to groups).


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 17, 2008, 08:09:20 PM
-Groupmate icons need to be larger on the Minimap

Agreed.

Plus Groupmates window (life, etc..) is UGLY.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Oban on May 17, 2008, 08:43:00 PM
- No buy online, needs an electronic purchase/download.
- No native MacOS client, I want to run it on my MacBook Pro without installing xp/Vista.
- Needs better vagina graphics model, it is 2008 for christ's sake, open up a browser tab.
- Not perfect for Orange Juice, needs more lemon.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 17, 2008, 08:50:00 PM
1. Getting graphical tearing. Graphics card might just need a cooldown.
2. Second vote for total lack of loot for boss drops.
3. My feats don't tell me exactly what they do. Without a strat guide out yet, I need to know what this shit does in the game window.
4. Stygian models are so much better than the others that it feels like pre and post SOGA EQ2 models at the same time.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Hawkbit on May 17, 2008, 10:05:23 PM
1. Getting graphical tearing. Graphics card might just need a cooldown.

I forced vsync on in my NVIDIA settings for Conan on my 8800gtx.  It's pretty much eliminated the tearing on my system.  Give it a shot if you have the option.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 17, 2008, 10:37:12 PM
- Too much junk loot, as in 1000000 of the same piece of equip
- WTF with +0.01 bonus stats?
- Very slow respawn in dungeons leads to nothing to fight and long camps to get a very common quest drop


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: FatuousTwat on May 17, 2008, 10:58:58 PM
Quest items take way too long to respawn, I remember waiting 10 minutes for a saddle to respawn on a dead horse, and almost 15 for an axe buried in a demon's head.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 17, 2008, 11:01:27 PM
Quest items have been respawning at a ridiculous rate on the live server. I should probably amend this thread to say if you haven't played live, don't assume much. Miracle patch is a miracle.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on May 17, 2008, 11:46:37 PM
Fucking loading screens.

Like it was bad enough that when you get ressed you have a loading screen, but when you respec your feats you have a long loading screen AND YOU ARE STILL IN THE SAME GOD DAMN SPOT

And OMG the lack of functionality for community features is astounding.  IT's worse than everquest 1.  Guess how you add someone to your friends list.  "/cc addbuddy <name>"  WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN.  How is that logical or intuitive.

Oh yeah and purple guild chat which you can't change.  zomg

The game is cool but holy crap I will never understand how did they not think any of these things were worth working on.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 17, 2008, 11:56:15 PM
Like it was bad enough that when you get ressed you have a loading screen, but when you respec your feats you have a long loading screen AND YOU ARE STILL IN THE SAME GOD DAMN SPOT

I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. What processor do you have? Hell, graphics card and RAM speed also. I rarely see loading screens except for zoning. Even then, fast as balls 99% of the time.

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And OMG the lack of functionality for community features is astounding.  IT's worse than everquest 1.  Guess how you add someone to your friends list.  "/cc addbuddy <name>"  WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN.  How is that logical or intuitive.

You can just do a search by clicking on the second icon up top to the left - the three heads. Do a search by name. Right click. Add to friends list. Also amazingly useful for finding groups. It's probably the most useful search tool I've seen (I don't remember the WoW one. Certainly better than Everquest II or SWG or AO or DAOC, etc. etc.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 18, 2008, 12:14:39 AM
- It would take much longer to level solo.
- Any sort of death penalty involving going back to your corpse is beyond stupid as it just isn't fun.
- The group bars are way too small for a healer.
- Healing is very underpowered.
- Collection quests should give credit to each member of a group.
- I should be able to fucking go out to character select instead of exiting the game.
- Those god damn bink videos need to go.  I deleted them but the patcher actually puts them back...
- Some of the quest mob and quest item respawns are way too slow.
- Loot really sucks.
- Item stats aren't straightforward.
- Caster enemies are too powerful compared to melee.  They should either do less damage or have less health.
- The dots showing where group members sometimes disappear.
- The chat window needs more customization for colours etc.
- If I type / it should automatically put me into the chat window.  I shouldn't need to hit enter then /.
- It needs to be clearer how to switch instances, I had to tell people how to do it at least a dozen times.
- The / commands are non standard, they should just use the same ones everyone else does.
- I'm sick of all the men wearing leather skirts.
- People should be able to group in the night quests if they want to.
- The constant buff animations/sounds as people move in and out of range is getting irritating.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 18, 2008, 12:40:37 AM
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- I should be able to fucking go out to character select instead of exiting the game.

If you let the 30 second camp thing go all the way through, it takes you back to login. Not desktop.

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- Those god damn bink videos need to go.  I deleted them but the patcher actually puts them back...

YES YES YES.

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- Loot really sucks.

This will be what eventually drives me away. Sigh. It's so the easiest thing not to fuck up.

The rest I largely agree with, particular about item stats, skirts, /x command, and dots.

I haven't grouped with a healer yet.




Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Draegan on May 18, 2008, 01:48:33 AM
The 1-20 experience was origonally supposed to be single player only.  That what the night quests are for.  Plus they are there to draw you into the "story" hence single player.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 18, 2008, 02:05:04 AM
The 1-20 experience was origonally supposed to be single player only.  That what the night quests are for.  Plus they are there to draw you into the "story" hence single player.

It works reasonably well also. For the first time since uhhhh, ever. The writing here isn't too bad.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on May 18, 2008, 05:47:51 AM
I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. What processor do you have? Hell, graphics card and RAM speed also. I rarely see loading screens except for zoning. Even then, fast as balls 99% of the time.

My laptop only has a 5400 RPM hard drive, and I haven't had the spare funds nor the care (most games it's not a problem) to upgrade it.  So yes, I see loading screens and they pop up all the time, it's annoying as hell.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Slayerik on May 18, 2008, 05:50:13 AM
l2upgrade


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 18, 2008, 05:59:01 AM
Yes, yes, to everything said, yes.  Espcially loot, it's awful.  Character selection is stupid if your character doesn't look like what you chose.  The bodies don't match up right.  Not good documentation.  I don't know what I'm doing.  It took me ages to sort out adding a friend, too.  The bit of crap documentation they have looks like it was written by a bunch of stoned Norwegian Headbangers listening to Gorgoroth or something.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: tmp on May 18, 2008, 07:04:02 AM
- can't read their forums if you don't own the game/account.

Hopefully that's just temporary measure due to high traffic and whatnot, but makes it harder to someone sitting on the fence to take the plunge, without being able to see what people say about the game. Plus, all the delicious drama morsels... :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 18, 2008, 07:23:49 AM
The official forums have been considerably less dramatic than the beta forums.  In game isn't very dramatic, either.  It's probably the server we chose... Zug Zug.  Last night was packed and no one would shut up so I turned off the main chat.  Today no one is there.  I've seen people chat maybe three times.  They must all be asleep.  Or in church.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on May 18, 2008, 07:59:48 AM
or both!



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 18, 2008, 12:33:48 PM
- Voice acting stops at level 20. *sigh*


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on May 18, 2008, 12:35:25 PM
- Voice acting stops at level 20. *sigh*

Well, that's to be expected. I imagine they may trot it out again for epic style quests, but I couldn't honestly expect them to do voice acting for every fiddly little quest the game's gonna have.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Abelian75 on May 18, 2008, 12:44:21 PM
By far my biggest complaint is the item drops.  Soooo many trashy item drops.  It feels like an average of more than one item per mob, which is an absurd quantity.  I'm tired of mousing over loot from every single humanoid monster to make sure I don't miss an awesome item, although perhaps awesome items don't actually exist at all.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Evildrider on May 18, 2008, 04:49:20 PM
Loot sucks
Not enough inventory
No way to tell what some things do.  (I bought a bag, which only gave me 4 more slots)
Quests are same old, same old.
I wish we had more useful abilities.  I spam two attacks on my Tempest of Set.
Needs more informative tooltips, like where ya hang your mouse over something for more info.
Guild/friend system seems half-assed.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Jashan on May 18, 2008, 05:49:10 PM
I wish we had more useful abilities.  I spam two attacks on my Tempest of Set.


Agreed with emphasis on the ToS point. At level 14 I have only 6 spells? Compare that to all the chains a melee has?

My own:

1. Counter intuitive stat system. Maybe this is redundant to the "loot sux" theme. But ".1 to defense rating" means nothing to me. "100 to armor rating" means a lot more. This is probably due to me being conditioned by wow and lotro, but I have to think there are others out there like me in that market.
2. Lack of guidance. This may be to me being a true noob, but I am dieing a LOT. I am wandering into areas and quests that are WAY to hard for me and getting my ass kicked. I do not see others mentioning this at all, so am chalking it up to my own dumb ass so far. But damn. Or maybe the ToS sucks that bad.
3. The atmosphere still comes off as plastic in parts.
4. I can not customize the shape/size of my stygian assasin's cooch. If you can shape the breastesses and make and make them visible, why not go whole hog?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Evildrider on May 18, 2008, 09:31:47 PM
I only had some trouble with my ToS leveling.  I mainly put all my feat points into damage, as I am mainly soloing atm. 

Make sure to look at the colors of your quests in the log.  Green is doable, yellow a bit harder, and orange can be a bitch.

Never take on more then 1-2 of evenish level.. Thats about the most you can take. 

For tough fights remember to hit both your heal over times, and then commense the beatdown.  Food and Drink do help.

Also when you see people camping those tough bosses.. just invite them or ask to group.  You can get those done quick, I had no problems getting a couple people that were there to group up.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Wasted on May 18, 2008, 09:51:43 PM
/ not going straight to chat is annoying I forget everytime I go to camp.

Pets don't get aggro if you send them out to attack first, maybe its intended but it does go against expectations.

Under documented, help is crap to navigate.  Not enough info on your character or feedback.

Can't add more hotbars from what I can see (I am crazy for the hotbars)

Crap loot, inventory blah

Wish it would verify name availablity before final step

Some weird spell progression ie my Dark Templar gets the buff life drain combo before actually getting the life drain skill that makes it useful.  Rank II of a spell/combo autos on the hotbar separately rather than replacing rank I.  I used 2 ranks of an ability for ages before I noticed.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Wasted on May 19, 2008, 03:09:49 AM
Add having to resummon pets when entering/leaving an instance


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 19, 2008, 03:14:53 AM
Add having to resummon pets when entering/leaving an instance

Pets don't swim. At least demonologist pets don't. They have to be resummoned if you cross a river.

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Never take on more then 1-2 of evenish level.. Thats about the most you can take.

At level 26 I was taking on 28s and 29s solo. Sometimes more than 1. Maybe I managed to min-max my skill. Or maybe my 10% chance of fatality helps immensely. But right now I am a fucking blender. I'm like a Will It Blend commercial for Bad Guys. And yes, they do blend. As such, let's tack YMMV on to what you just said. Also, I tend to only do orange/red quests and delete <=Green ones. Yellow depends on the exp.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Wasted on May 19, 2008, 03:25:49 AM
Add having to resummon pets when entering/leaving an instance

Pets don't swim. At least demonologist pets don't. They have to be resummoned if you cross a river.


They also don't climb


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Typhon on May 19, 2008, 04:28:56 AM
Rangers: swicthing (via mousewheel) to first peson view to get the longer range... and having creatures disapear (along with their health bars) when they close to range.  This one took the already somewhat annoying-to-play range into the red for me, causing a permanent shelving of this class.  For reference, the demonologist does fantastic ranged damage, with none of the UI tom-foolery.  Interesting concept, which just isn't working.  Shelve it (or leave first person as a oddity/amusement) and give third person the same range as first person to stop the disapearing mob madness.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Triforcer on May 19, 2008, 04:48:49 AM
The no pet aggro thing is a major annoyance.  How is my squishy necromancer possibly supposed to survive solo when I can send three pets to beat on the mob and it immediately sprints to me?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Trippy on May 19, 2008, 05:11:25 AM
Run faster?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Xuri on May 19, 2008, 05:25:32 AM
Run faster?
You can invest skillpoints in a skill that gives you increased runspeed when out of combat. Though I'm not sure at which level you gain access to that.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: SnakeCharmer on May 19, 2008, 05:47:01 AM
1)  Can't resize anything but the chat box.
2)  Lack of overall documentation
3)  Not enough time in the day to play it


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 19, 2008, 06:31:03 AM
You can resize the map.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 19, 2008, 06:44:35 AM
/ not going straight to chat is annoying I forget everytime I go to camp.

Pets don't get aggro if you send them out to attack first, maybe its intended but it does go against expectations.



Do not Play that class like its a warlock. Its not. And in this game, that weapon in your had IS NOT WORTHLESS, stab some people.

You also do get one skill (frenzy)  that gives a pet a small time frame of extra arrgo. But its a tactical skill, not a CC per say.




Can't add more hotbars from what I can see (I am crazy for the hotbars)



Two on the right side of the screen, hove your abilitys in the abilitys window, and look.

Also, with everything closed, try pressing and holding ALT.
supper secret secondary quick bar while pressed.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: SnakeCharmer on May 19, 2008, 06:47:45 AM
You can resize the map.

All I could do was zoom in and out.  You can click/drag the edges to make the map bigger?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 19, 2008, 06:48:45 AM
You can resize the map.

All I could do was zoom in and out.  You can click/drag the edges to make the map bigger?

Corner.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: SnakeCharmer on May 19, 2008, 07:03:36 AM
Hrm.  I'll have to try it again.  Thanks.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 19, 2008, 07:39:11 AM
I finished a quest but lost my quest rewards because there wasn't enough room in my inventory.  That probably shouldn't happen.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Viin on May 19, 2008, 07:40:16 AM
I finished a quest but lost my quest rewards because there wasn't enough room in my inventory.  That probably shouldn't happen.

There's something in the help or one of the tips about there.. that there's an 'overflow' that keeps your quest items until you clear out your inventory. But I don't know how you'd get stuff from that overflow once you were ready for them.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 19, 2008, 07:41:38 AM
I finished a quest but lost my quest rewards because there wasn't enough room in my inventory.  That probably shouldn't happen.

There's something in the help or one of the tips about there.. that there's an 'overflow' that keeps your quest items until you clear out your inventory. But I don't know how you'd get stuff from that overflow once you were ready for them.
You will get it back when you get your next reward too, there will be two windows.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 19, 2008, 07:42:03 AM
I'll check for that.  It's likely my kitties have swatted my brain under the fridge this morning.  I'm knackered.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 19, 2008, 07:44:03 AM
In OB, you could just finish the dialog, then the loot window would still be there and you could manage your innovatory.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Xuri on May 19, 2008, 07:52:53 AM
I finished a quest but lost my quest rewards because there wasn't enough room in my inventory.  That probably shouldn't happen.
Should be an exclamation mark or some such next to the minimap that you can click to display quest-rewards you haven't picked yet.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 19, 2008, 09:02:01 AM
I finished a quest but lost my quest rewards because there wasn't enough room in my inventory.  That probably shouldn't happen.
Should be an exclamation mark or some such next to the minimap that you can click to display quest-rewards you haven't picked yet.

Yay!  Where is this boy's red name?  At least give him bright orange for his first step into dev-hood.  He's our Funcom guy, now, you know.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Morfiend on May 19, 2008, 10:02:19 AM
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Never take on more then 1-2 of evenish level.. Thats about the most you can take.

At level 26 I was taking on 28s and 29s solo. Sometimes more than 1. Maybe I managed to min-max my skill.

Oh look, the class imbalance is starting to show.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Evildrider on May 19, 2008, 10:17:59 AM
Add having to resummon pets when entering/leaving an instance

Pets don't swim. At least demonologist pets don't. They have to be resummoned if you cross a river.

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Never take on more then 1-2 of evenish level.. Thats about the most you can take.

At level 26 I was taking on 28s and 29s solo. Sometimes more than 1. Maybe I managed to min-max my skill. Or maybe my 10% chance of fatality helps immensely. But right now I am a fucking blender. I'm like a Will It Blend commercial for Bad Guys. And yes, they do blend. As such, let's tack YMMV on to what you just said. Also, I tend to only do orange/red quests and delete <=Green ones. Yellow depends on the exp.
[/b]

I'm playing a Tempest of Set, thats not possible for me to do.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nija on May 19, 2008, 11:03:16 AM
Don't worry, since he's a demonologist he's going to be real tired of casting 10 buffs each time he dies and pressing the same button 5 times to kill everything real soon.




Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 19, 2008, 11:17:18 AM
Don't worry, since he's a demonologist he's going to be real tired of casting 10 buffs each time he dies and pressing the same button 5 times to kill everything real soon.

I'm an assassin. If you want to troll the game, at least read everything. :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Der Helm on May 19, 2008, 11:42:12 AM
He also played a paladin in WoW, keep that in mind.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Montague on May 19, 2008, 11:46:36 AM
He also played a paladin in WoW, keep that in mind.

I for one am glad as hell there are no paladins in AOC.   


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Vanifae on May 19, 2008, 11:47:51 AM
I like my blood elf paladin :( tanking is fun.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Montague on May 19, 2008, 11:54:06 AM
I like my blood elf paladin :( tanking is fun.

It only took 2 years of us release day paladins bitching out Blizzard for that to happen.

You're welcome, btw.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Slayerik on May 19, 2008, 11:55:47 AM
Real horde didn't want your bitch ass paladin class anyways.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Montague on May 19, 2008, 12:06:13 PM
Real horde didn't want your bitch ass paladin class anyways.

Nah, they just wanted Shamans to have Salv. Back when you PVE'ed to PVP.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 19, 2008, 12:48:37 PM
Add having to resummon pets when entering/leaving an instance

Pets don't swim. At least demonologist pets don't. They have to be resummoned if you cross a river.

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Never take on more then 1-2 of evenish level.. Thats about the most you can take.

At level 26 I was taking on 28s and 29s solo. Sometimes more than 1. Maybe I managed to min-max my skill. Or maybe my 10% chance of fatality helps immensely. But right now I am a fucking blender. I'm like a Will It Blend commercial for Bad Guys. And yes, they do blend. As such, let's tack YMMV on to what you just said. Also, I tend to only do orange/red quests and delete <=Green ones. Yellow depends on the exp.
[/b]

I'm playing a Tempest of Set, thats not possible for me to do.

I can, and I am a ToS of 25th levels.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 19, 2008, 12:50:27 PM
Add having to resummon pets when entering/leaving an instance

Pets don't swim. At least demonologist pets don't. They have to be resummoned if you cross a river.

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Never take on more then 1-2 of evenish level.. Thats about the most you can take.

At level 26 I was taking on 28s and 29s solo. Sometimes more than 1. Maybe I managed to min-max my skill. Or maybe my 10% chance of fatality helps immensely. But right now I am a fucking blender. I'm like a Will It Blend commercial for Bad Guys. And yes, they do blend. As such, let's tack YMMV on to what you just said. Also, I tend to only do orange/red quests and delete <=Green ones. Yellow depends on the exp.
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I'm playing a Tempest of Set, thats not possible for me to do.

I can, and I am a ToS of 25th levels.

How long did it take you to get to 25? Round abouts.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 19, 2008, 12:54:51 PM
Last night Schild seemed to be getting a level every few minutes or something.  It was scary.  Seriously.  I was afraid and had to log out, have a couple valium and hug my cats.  I also had a good cry this morning.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 19, 2008, 01:05:41 PM
About to hit 29.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nija on May 19, 2008, 01:09:34 PM
Oh. It's a good thing you aren't on the PVP server in that case.



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 19, 2008, 01:10:07 PM
Oh. It's a good thing you aren't on the PVP server in that case.



?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 19, 2008, 01:55:25 PM
Took me 15 hours /played to get to 25, but I did it on /relaxed mode.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 19, 2008, 03:39:46 PM
Yea, 18 hours for 29.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Fargull on May 19, 2008, 03:44:06 PM
Loot is almost too trivial, but now at 19, I am almost past the point of looking at loot aside from just checking to see if I want to keep it.  Will have to see, if it is not item centric as WOW, I will be glad.

The cut scene crap can be annoying, espeically if I am getting attacked by mobs that were not part of what initiated the cut scene.

Having to wait for a quest mob or item to spawn makes me yearn to stab EQ in the eyes for introducing that crap...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nija on May 19, 2008, 05:34:53 PM
Oh. It's a good thing you aren't on the PVP server in that case.



?

Assassins are the weakest class in PVP.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: jpark on May 19, 2008, 07:38:06 PM
I understand the need for "insta" travel for players, but I thought we learned from EQ2 and EQ1 if not done properly, it can erode immersion.

Before I click on the caravan owner and find myself transported to another city - it would be nice to see some sort of 30 second cinematic to introduce the transition (e.g. of the Caravan departing etc.).


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Slayerik on May 19, 2008, 08:02:59 PM
Oh. It's a good thing you aren't on the PVP server in that case.



?

Assassins are the weakest class in PVP.

Nija, I've known and respected ya for a long time now...I'm just kinda curious, between the PM you sent me about the state of the game and your constant trolling of basically all AOC threads...why the hate? Most people seem to be having fun, I am truly interested it what your main turn-offs have been with the game...

Class balance? PvE balance? No Balance? Performance? Bugs? Lack of 40+ content?

A genuinely concerned Slayerik



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Wasted on May 19, 2008, 08:23:37 PM
/ not going straight to chat is annoying I forget everytime I go to camp.

Pets don't get aggro if you send them out to attack first, maybe its intended but it does go against expectations.



Do not Play that class like its a warlock. Its not. And in this game, that weapon in your had IS NOT WORTHLESS, stab some people.

You also do get one skill (frenzy)  that gives a pet a small time frame of extra arrgo. But its a tactical skill, not a CC per say.




Can't add more hotbars from what I can see (I am crazy for the hotbars)



Two on the right side of the screen, hove your abilitys in the abilitys window, and look.

Also, with everything closed, try pressing and holding ALT.
supper secret secondary quick bar while pressed.

Yeah the cooldown on frenzy is too slow to reuse with any sort of consistency so I don't use it as part of my normal rotation.  Its all pet classes in most games I have played recently where if the pet attacks first it grabs initial aggro, not just warlocks. Like I said its probably intentional that they don't in AoC but it does go against player expectations, I wasn't the only one complaining about it in /ooc.  There are other abilities which seem to emphasise being in melee range but well I pick a mage to cast spells and play melee when I want to melee :/

I also knew about the two side bars (which can be rotated and moved but not resized from what I can see) but I want more... I like to group and space abilities by type and I don't like too much stuff mooshed together


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: rk47 on May 19, 2008, 08:38:12 PM
 :pedobear:
(http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m20/r3dknight/conan.jpg)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: fuser on May 21, 2008, 06:45:40 AM
Things that make me cry in this game

-Friends window, how did this get past a usability test? Add a "add friend" button to this window and make the online/offline indicators different colors perhaps?!
-Chat window, see point one. This is terrible, no alpha blending option, hitting / doesn't put you into the text input field, has issues sometimes it seems with inputting text ie a space, no and no color choices built into its own menus. Btw, when I choose that I don't want OOC on, don't turn it back on the next time I level :P
-Group member icon on the minimap, one pixel indicator has gotta be fixed
-(friends are having serious issues with FPS, its too hard to find out what the issue is so not really a funcom issue)
-No camping to character selection.
-Group windows/member panels have to be customizable to scale it up a bit.
-On a "full" server you cannot create a new character. This kinda sucks is the server full so a friend cannot create a character there in low load hours?

Thats it for now, I'll think of more today..



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 21, 2008, 06:47:38 AM
There is an add by name button. Click the first of the buttons on the upper left. Add by name. Three more options.

Also, thanks for that last one. Gonna fill up 8 spots on Zug now.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: fuser on May 21, 2008, 06:59:37 AM
There is an add by name button. Click the first of the buttons on the upper left. Add by name. Three more options.

Thanks I knew it had to be buried in there, but it's gotta be cleaned up from a usability standpoint.

In regards to the server slots. I have no idea if its just when the server is full (and yes there are queue's) you cannot create a new account and when its low load you have access to create another character. But I'm 100% sure when he server was fully loaded last night a friend couldn't create an account. I'd like to hear from Funcom if this is "working as intended".


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 21, 2008, 07:03:54 AM
There is an add by name button. Click the first of the buttons on the upper left. Add by name. Three more options.

Thanks I knew it had to be buried in there, but it's gotta be cleaned up from a usability standpoint.

In regards to the server slots. I have no idea if its just when the server is full (and yes there are queue's) you cannot create a new account and when its low load you have access to create another character. But I'm 100% sure when he server was fully loaded last night a friend couldn't create an account. I'd like to hear from Funcom if this is "working as intended".

Sounds like it is, characters on the server is a higher number than allowed concurrent users. If the concurrent users max is getting near..it would make sense to hold new character making.

I foresee free character moves in the near future.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 21, 2008, 07:05:02 AM
I foresee me making 8 characters on Zug in a couple hours.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: trias_e on May 21, 2008, 07:33:52 AM
I don't like the fact that I had less problems with the Vanguard launch than this one.  So many technical issues piled on top of each other for me, almost reminds me of AO again minus the mandatory hard drive formatting.



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 21, 2008, 07:38:04 AM
I don't like the fact that I had less problems with the Vanguard launch than this one.  So many technical issues piled on top of each other for me, almost reminds me of AO again minus the mandatory hard drive formatting.

Wat.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: trias_e on May 21, 2008, 07:55:42 AM
yeah, i know, i'm special.

le sigh.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 21, 2008, 07:58:09 AM
Definitely the outlier. Danny is running a 7800GS or something and an D540 or some piece of shit early dual core and is getting 30FPS on medium.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: ShenMolo on May 21, 2008, 08:04:58 AM
AMD 4200 - Geforce 7900GT 256mb - 4GB DDR2 - WinXP Pro - 250gb 7200rpm HD

Basically my machine is 2 years old

I get 30ish FPS in low settings with shadows off. Game still looks good.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: trias_e on May 21, 2008, 08:11:30 AM
My system isn't great.  AMD opteron 180 (this might be a problem), 2gb ram, 8800GT.  But when I can run the game, I get great framerates, and it looks fantastic.  That is, when I can actually get into the game.  I've had to hard restart my comp at least 10 times since installing the game last night, for quite a few different reasons.  I just installed the leaked nvidia driver from guru3d.com, which may have actually fixed things.  We'll see.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 21, 2008, 08:12:05 AM
Your processor is more than a "problem." Is it overheating? Is the graphics card overheating? What is your mobo, with an opteron in it, I don't even want to know, but then, I do want to know.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: trias_e on May 21, 2008, 08:31:08 AM
Why is my processor more than a problem?  I've never had any problems whatsoever gaming with it in the past.  Oblivion, Bioshock, Crysis, TF2/HL2, all good.  I got it a few months ago to get a little bit more life out of my 939 system, and it's worked wondefully (up to this point).  No overheating as far as I can tell, I've got rivatuner and cpufan installed to keep track of that.  At crashes I have no problem with cpu temp.  I'm a little bit more worried about the 8800 temp since I got some graphical tearing on one crash, but I'm not sure exactly what I can do about that.

The mobo is an evga sli 939 mobo, which actually has been fine, suprisingly.  Yeah, evga mobo, I know, bad idea.  I got a good deal on it though, and again, it's worked perfectly fine for the last few years so I have no complaints.

New drivers seem to help...but I still get fun stuff like random drops to 1 fps for 10 seconds, zones loading too fast and me having to stand around waiting for a minute while npc's pop up around me, etc.  Just so much weird shit going on.  It's frustrating because it runs beautifully much of the time.



Update:  Leaked drivers, disabling high quality npc's, and switching to 2.0 shaders (which you have to do every fucking time you zone because they always switch back to 3.0) seems to get this sucker running about perfectly for me, at least at the moment.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: fuser on May 21, 2008, 08:42:42 AM
The mobo is an evga sli 939 mobo, which actually has been fine, suprisingly.



This is coming out of left field here but do you use the onboard nvidia nic? If so try disabling "Offload CRC Checksum" on your network card, may not work but hell its fixed a lot weirder issues.

Open Windows device manager -> Network adapters -> Network card -> Advanced -> Disable "Offload CRC Checksum"


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 21, 2008, 08:45:04 AM
It must be said again -- the sys reqs are ridiculous. I may not last long because of it (I'm running windowed atm, and it still blows). It might be the game that finally makes me pony up for a 360 though (so long as I can use the same account).


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: trias_e on May 21, 2008, 08:48:52 AM
Quote


This is coming out of left field here but do you use the onboard nvidia nic? If so try disabling "Offload CRC Checksum" on your network card, may not work but hell its fixed a lot weirder issues.

Open Windows device manager -> Network adapters -> Network card -> Advanced -> Disable "Offload CRC Checksum"

Yes, I do use it, and I just disabled it.  I'll let you know if I notice any effect, thanks!


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: vex on May 21, 2008, 08:50:54 AM
My system isn't great.  AMD opteron 180 (this might be a problem), 2gb ram, 8800GT.  But when I can run the game, I get great framerates, and it looks fantastic.  That is, when I can actually get into the game.  I've had to hard restart my comp at least 10 times since installing the game last night, for quite a few different reasons.  I just installed the leaked nvidia driver from guru3d.com, which may have actually fixed things.  We'll see.


I would this to be fine.  I'm running an AMD 4500+ which I think is similar. I was getting 10FPS with a 7600GT but upgraded that last night to 8800GT and it runs fantastic on medium and darn good on high.  No crashes so far.



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: glennshin on May 21, 2008, 09:23:38 AM
-sneak animation on women look like they are surfing or something equally ridiculous.
-as of right now, rebinding keys that aren't already bound to something gives you the error "key is reserved"
-there is no key binding for next/previous action bar


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 21, 2008, 09:24:55 AM
I crash almost every time I choose "exit now".


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 21, 2008, 09:25:36 AM
-sneak animation on women look like they are surfing or something equally ridiculous.

That's the same deal with the HoX demon form... Like he's gliding or something. Thought it was intentional. Guess not.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 21, 2008, 09:26:54 AM
It must be said again -- the sys reqs are ridiculous. I may not last long because of it (I'm running windowed atm, and it still blows). It might be the game that finally makes me pony up for a 360 though (so long as I can use the same account).

The game scales amazingly well. Danny is on a computer that is largely shittier than anyones in this thread and he optimized the shit out of it until it was 30FPS everywhere. Sometimes it dips to 20.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Vanifae on May 21, 2008, 09:30:02 AM
I crash almost every time I choose "exit now".
This happens to me as well.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 21, 2008, 09:33:58 AM
I crash almost every time I choose "exit now".
This happens to me as well.

Do you think it's trying to tell us to slow down, we're movin' too fast? 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Vanifae on May 21, 2008, 09:36:59 AM
I think it's telling me to stop being a perfectionist, I probably went through three or four characters last night before settling on my Guardian this morning :)

Conqueror is still enticing for an alt though :)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Abelian75 on May 21, 2008, 09:37:41 AM
Yeah, I actually crash every time I quit the game.  If you're going to have a crash bug, though, that's a pretty good time to crash.  That's pretty much the only time I have crashed in several days, other than when zoning in windowed mode, which my computer really, really doesn't like.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 21, 2008, 11:41:46 AM
Invalid "There are no targets in range" messages are getting annoying.  A mob spawns, starts wailing on me and when I start casting it often says that, forcing me to click on him first.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 21, 2008, 11:50:23 AM
Invalid "There are no targets in range" messages are getting annoying.  A mob spawns, starts wailing on me and when I start casting it often says that, forcing me to click on him first.

TAB.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: trias_e on May 21, 2008, 02:10:04 PM
I take back what I said before about it working, this game is just pure epic fail on my PC.  Now I've got this problem:  http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=7508


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Montague on May 21, 2008, 02:19:53 PM
I take back what I said before about it working, this game is just pure epic fail on my PC.  Now I've got this problem:  http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=7508

Weird. I'm assuming you have 1GB of RAM? I have 3 and only seem to use 50-60% physical memory.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: trias_e on May 21, 2008, 02:26:44 PM
I have 2GB and since I am running XP I am led to believe there is no point of getting any more until I upgrade to Vista.  I get the internal driver error, not the ran out of memory error, for clarifcation.  I'm going to run JKdefrag in painstakingly slow and detailed mode tonight,  perhaps that will help.

Update:  Fixed it by deleted the shader files in the main folder.  Game working fine again.  For now.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 21, 2008, 04:21:41 PM
Invalid "There are no targets in range" messages are getting annoying.  A mob spawns, starts wailing on me and when I start casting it often says that, forcing me to click on him first.

TAB.
No, fuck tab.  This:

(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/6444/failhc6.jpg)
Is an error.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Trippy on May 21, 2008, 04:47:01 PM
"You have been incinerated" -- fucking DTs.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Velorath on May 22, 2008, 01:22:32 AM
I don't like that there's a button simply marked leave in the guild management tab that will cause you to quit the guild without so much as a "are you sure you want to quit the guild?"

On a related note, I'm going to need a reinvite into the guild at some point  :grin:


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: vex on May 22, 2008, 01:31:58 AM
I keep getting stuck on small objects like rocks and campfires.  Sometimes, like the rocks, I don't even know they are there.  Sometimes I can just back out and move on but I know at least once I had to jump to escape that four inch rock.

You would think my character would have the ability step over these small obstacles but I guess not.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: ShenMolo on May 22, 2008, 05:17:06 AM
I keep getting stuck on small objects like rocks and campfires.  Sometimes, like the rocks, I don't even know they are there.  Sometimes I can just back out and move on but I know at least once I had to jump to escape that four inch rock.

You would think my character would have the ability step over these small obstacles but I guess not.

Yea there are definitely lots of little invisible snags and walls all over the terrain. Some are nothing more than a sharp edge in a terrain feature. So far they have only been a minor annoyance.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 22, 2008, 06:07:36 AM
I don't like that there's a button simply marked leave in the guild management tab that will cause you to quit the guild without so much as a "are you sure you want to quit the guild?"

On a related note, I'm going to need a reinvite into the guild at some point  :grin:

Stop touching everything!  Just because it's there doesn't mean you have to touch it.  (my mother used to say that all the time)

Also, yesterday I punched a soldier almost clean through a wall with only his leg sticking out at a weird angle.  Awesome shades of City of Heroes! 

Later I'll dig out my headset and use TS.  I'm trying out one of those AoC keyboard thingys and the keys are too small and I keep missing letters and typing nonsense.  I'm close to breaking it into bits!  Oh wait... it comes that way!


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Viin on May 22, 2008, 06:27:49 AM
I keep getting stuck on small objects like rocks and campfires.  Sometimes, like the rocks, I don't even know they are there.  Sometimes I can just back out and move on but I know at least once I had to jump to escape that four inch rock.

You would think my character would have the ability step over these small obstacles but I guess not.

If you find stuff like this do the /stuck command. It'll get you out and log a report of the location so maybe they'll fix it at some point.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 22, 2008, 06:38:32 AM
-On a "full" server you cannot create a new character. This kinda sucks is the server full so a friend cannot create a character there in low load hours?

I foresee drama. Huge guilds separated by Early Accessors and "Releasors".
That kind of drama will involve my guild too, in 24 hours. Agh...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Hawkbit on May 22, 2008, 09:27:47 AM
I keep getting stuck on small objects like rocks and campfires.  Sometimes, like the rocks, I don't even know they are there.  Sometimes I can just back out and move on but I know at least once I had to jump to escape that four inch rock.

You would think my character would have the ability step over these small obstacles but I guess not.

Yea there are definitely lots of little invisible snags and walls all over the terrain. Some are nothing more than a sharp edge in a terrain feature. So far they have only been a minor annoyance.

Only a minor annoyance until a few months from now when you're PvPing and your prey gets away because your leg is stuck on the side of a rock.  That's likely going to make me punch my monitor. 

My other gripe is quest text.  Ex:

Random quest dude says:

"I need you to kill wolves."
1.  Ok, I'll bring you the 84 fucking wolf tails you want.
2.  Shut your tropical clam, bitch... I'm now going to slit your throat.
3.  Goodbye.

(I choose 2.)

"Haha!  You'd never because I'm bigger than you!"
1.  Ok, I'll bring you the 84 fucking wolf tails you want.
2.  Goodbye.

(WTF I choose 1. :( )

Point:  Don't bother putting in responses if they don't DO anything.  You may as well go back to WoW's window fwiw. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Fearshi on May 22, 2008, 09:54:08 AM
I don't like that there's a button simply marked leave in the guild management tab that will cause you to quit the guild without so much as a "are you sure you want to quit the guild?"

Yes.  If you do this while Guild Leader the GMs will eventually tell you that there is no way they can fix it right now.  Then you reform your guild so you have a Guild Leader again.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on May 22, 2008, 09:57:41 AM
My other gripe is quest text.  Ex:

Random quest dude says:

"I need you to kill wolves."
1.  Ok, I'll bring you the 84 fucking wolf tails you want.
2.  Shut your tropical clam, bitch... I'm now going to slit your throat.
3.  Goodbye.

(I choose 2.)

"Haha!  You'd never because I'm bigger than you!"
1.  Ok, I'll bring you the 84 fucking wolf tails you want.
2.  Goodbye.

(WTF I choose 1. :( )

Point:  Don't bother putting in responses if they don't DO anything.  You may as well go back to WoW's window fwiw. 

In one rare instance selecting a belligerent response actually opened up an option for another quest on some random NPC in Tortage. Don't think that is widespread, but I think it may have been an idea that got ditched as too ambitious, but left in place for an NPC or two somewhere.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: AcidCat on May 22, 2008, 10:05:14 AM
I don't like that AoC prompted me to just place an order on Newegg for an 8800GT to replace my 8600GTS.  :uhrr:


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 22, 2008, 10:12:44 AM
You're kidding right?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 22, 2008, 10:17:05 AM
I don't like that AoC prompted me to just place an order on Newegg for an 8800GT to replace my 8600GTS.  :uhrr:

what? Details please.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 10:24:28 AM
The 8800GT is light years beyond the 8600GTS. I'm making the same upgrade hopefully tomorrow.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 22, 2008, 10:42:25 AM
OH! he meant it made him want/choose to upgrade, not that the game dumped him out an opened a Newegg page.

That would be hilarious!


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: AcidCat on May 22, 2008, 10:42:37 AM
Yeah, I was just having to turn too much stuff down to get a framerate barely above 20fps on average. I prefer to play in my monitor's native resolution of 1900x1200 and that bargain card I bought with my computer late last year just wasn't cutting it for this game.

That would be pretty funny if the game itself told me it was time to upgrade and popped up a Newegg window.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on May 22, 2008, 10:53:21 AM
OH! he meant it made him want/choose to upgrade, not that the game dumped him out an opened a Newegg page.

That would be hilarious!

That made me laugh far more than it probably should have. Makes for a great image.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Montague on May 22, 2008, 11:16:14 AM
The 8800GT is light years beyond the 8600GTS. I'm making the same upgrade hopefully tomorrow.

Same, except I have the 8600 GT. Thinking about getting the 8800 GTS though.



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: SnakeCharmer on May 22, 2008, 11:38:43 AM
The 8800GTS seems like the sweetspot card for this game.

Also, rumor has it the following is great for up'ing your framerate (maybe I read it here.  Not sure):
Dowload the latest and greatest NVidia drivers (the beta ones)
Wipe your current drivers.
Use a driver wipe utility, restart, rinse/repeat.
Install new drivers.
Defrag your HD.
Run AoC.
Voila, instant improvement.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 11:42:50 AM
That's an improvement on ANY game.

Might as well just say "Format, install nothing but windows and the game. Viola, instant improvement. Just add logic."


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 22, 2008, 05:13:01 PM
Bah, I'm done. At least until I get a new PC [read: Never. PC gaming can suck my cock]. The min reqs on the box is a 6600...Which is bullshit. I have a 7300gt, slimmed down to muthafuckin 1024x768 (on a 1920x1200 monitor mind you), turned just about every setting down to nil, and have like only 30 yards line of sight of shittastic textures. It is literally PS1 era looking -- Not running in my monitor's native resolution just adds to the effect.

And I still can barely get 30 fps. Most of the time it's 20. And that's only when I'm alone, in an instanced zone. Put other shitheads in there, and I'm stuttering around at 9 to 15 fps.

So fuck this shit (and yes, I've updated my drivers, defragged..killed all unnecessary services, run windows with an old school classic ui, literally have shit on here except teamspeak and conan, meet cpu reqs with 2.4 c2d, gig of ram, etc.).

Sad thing is, I like what I've seen of the game. And I'm already a big fan of Conan.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: rattran on May 22, 2008, 05:18:29 PM
7300GT < 6600GT


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: palmer_eldritch on May 22, 2008, 05:32:16 PM


In one rare instance selecting a belligerent response actually opened up an option for another quest on some random NPC in Tortage. Don't think that is widespread, but I think it may have been an idea that got ditched as too ambitious, but left in place for an NPC or two somewhere.

I found a couple of those in Tortage (playing Tortage repeatedly in beta made them more obvious). Not sure if I like it or not. In theory, the idea that the response you choose actually makes a difference should be cool, but in practice you're worried that the "wrong" response means you miss out on a cool quest.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 22, 2008, 05:51:55 PM
7300GT < 6600GT

Oh.. Well shit.

Anyhow, here me out on this last thing: That's still no excuse for not even being able to get a good framerate with hardly anything on (I'm talking bad on the level of seeing entire patches of areas in the background not even having textures...and again, at 1024x768...with a degraded character model without any definition whatsoever). It's just a shitty engine. Reminds me of NWN2.

If I can run a similarly highly instanced game like Guild Wars, and have it run better at it's highest settings than AoC can at it's lowest, then something's wrong. What is it about this game that requires so much juice? I'd honestly like to know. I said before that I barely have any line of sight, and it's with the lowest res textures possible. What would be the culprit then?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 05:56:40 PM
But AoC isn't highly instanced. And you're running in fucking bootcamp.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 22, 2008, 05:58:37 PM
Big deal, it's just a PC running windows.

What I've played is very instanced. The newb zone, Tortage has multiple versions, the Night Quest.. That's all I've seen.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 06:00:44 PM
But it's not a PC running Windows. And it isn't HIGHLY instanced.

Also, can you upgrade the GPU? Or is the iMac still a computer for turtleneckbeards?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 22, 2008, 06:09:56 PM
Sigh.. Not sure if you're serious or fucking around.

The mac gpu isn't upgradeable, right.. But that's no different than a laptop. They're PC's too, last I checked. None of the hardware used in bootcamp is "Mac specific". It's just plain ole pc parts.

My bad on the instancing thing (I wish I fucking knew how the rest of the game plays out, believe me). For my purposes right now though, and what I've played, and where I'm running into snags, it's highly instanced.

Not that I give a shit. I'm not making some veiled knock at the game, if that's what you think. The game is cool. My point though is that it can't even run worth a darn, with extremely low settings, in instanced areas.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 06:11:01 PM
Well, your GPU is the problem. It's years old. YEARS. Like, really, it's time to get an actual PC for gaming.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 22, 2008, 06:15:22 PM
:|

I still say it's a crappy engine though. A lot of things run fine. This, otoh, is like nwn2. Completely unforgiving.

Just how cheap could I go, and get decent performance anyways?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 06:22:20 PM
It's really not a crappy engine. Like, AT ALL. We're running it on a single core P4 3.0ghz machine next to us with an ATI X850. On 4x AGP no less. At 30fps solid.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Dtrain on May 22, 2008, 06:29:18 PM
:|

Just how cheap could I go, and get decent performance anyways?

Judging by recommended specs (those who have extensive hardware experience with the game may have better insight,) I'd recommend the following $500 build as workable for AOC:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-graphic-game,1810.html

(http://media.bestofmicro.com/Q/V/98167/original/500pc_pricelist.png)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 06:33:39 PM
That's too much for too little. Is the May one up yet?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 22, 2008, 06:40:53 PM
It's really not a crappy engine. Like, AT ALL. We're running it on a single core P4 3.0ghz machine next to us with an ATI X850. On 4x AGP no less. At 30fps solid.

Damn?

...

Thanks DTrain... Didn't even know about those Pentiums. I await an updated list. Maybe this is doable.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Trippy on May 22, 2008, 06:46:01 PM
If I can run a similarly highly instanced game like Guild Wars, and have it run better at it's highest settings than AoC can at it's lowest, then something's wrong. What is it about this game that requires so much juice? I'd honestly like to know. I said before that I barely have any line of sight, and it's with the lowest res textures possible. What would be the culprit then?
Guild Wars is not a good game to compare AoC to graphics engine-wise. GW is in WoW's league -- it's designed to run okay on low end systems. I ran GW for a while on a GeForce 4 Go (essentially a GeForce 2 GPU).


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 22, 2008, 06:48:44 PM
Well, what I meant is that it looks and runs a helluva a lot better at high than AoC does at low.

I'm sure there's probably a reasonable explanation for that (how something that looks like complete ass could still cause problems), but it pisses me off all the same.  :-)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Trippy on May 22, 2008, 06:50:18 PM
GW had amazing art direction. They did a lot with what few polygons they had to work with.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Dtrain on May 22, 2008, 06:52:46 PM
If you're looking at that build, bear in mind they did really skimp a little on the graphics card. The CPU is a little weaksauce as well. So if you were thinking of substituting a couple of pieces of hardware, those would be the ones to look at.

It's still not what I would call a great build for years to come, but it will do for the next couple years.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 22, 2008, 07:04:03 PM
From what I gather, the CPU doesn't seem to be much of a factor with this game (especially after hearing what schild said). I know it isn't taxing mine.

Anyhow, one last thing -- what's a safe bet if I wanted to run med-highish on a 20" monitor?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 22, 2008, 07:08:05 PM
AoC uses your CPU if it's there to use. Uses all 4 of my cores to about 50%.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Kirth on May 23, 2008, 04:07:43 AM
-Group Quests with objectives like break a statue or burn a tent, these objects are surrounded by this games version of elites. but you only get credit for one person per statue broken, so it can be a Pain the ass to get it done.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Lantyssa on May 23, 2008, 05:54:34 AM
GW had amazing art direction. They did a lot with what few polygons they had to work with.
They really do.  Characters are beautiful and I never feel like I'm in a low-poly world.

I'd like other games to use their engine, except I know they won't have the artists to pull it off.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Ragnoros on May 23, 2008, 08:06:59 AM
It's really not a crappy engine. Like, AT ALL. We're running it on a single core P4 3.0ghz machine next to us with an ATI X850. On 4x AGP no less. At 30fps solid.

Schild, I'm running a Q6600, 2 Gigs ram, and a x850, and I'm having a hard time finding a sweet spot for graphics. Either it looks like ASS or runs like ASS. Not sure what effects the fact that shaders are fucked for these older ATI cards is having. Third item on their tech issues sticky (http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=4512)

Also I'm running this shit on a 37' monitor  :grin: thats probably not helping issues.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 23, 2008, 08:21:17 AM
GW had amazing art direction. They did a lot with what few polygons they had to work with.
They really do.  Characters are beautiful and I never feel like I'm in a low-poly world.

I'd like other games to use their engine, except I know they won't have the artists to pull it off.

The "Secret world" will be using it.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: trias_e on May 23, 2008, 08:22:08 AM
If you build a new computer right now on a budget...build around this:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127329

Or other cards like it.  $500 is a little tight for building a gaming rig IMO...a better sweet spot is around $750.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: HaemishM on May 23, 2008, 10:19:52 AM
If you build a new computer right now on a budget...build around this:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127329

Or other cards like it.  $500 is a little tight for building a gaming rig IMO...a better sweet spot is around $750.


Of if you are REALLY on a budget, you can go with this card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500001) instead. We put one in PopTart's machine after her ATI X800 died, and she's seen no noticeable performance drops that I know of. And I think that's with settings in things like Half-Life 2 Deathmatch turned way up.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 23, 2008, 10:47:15 AM
I can already run half life 2 on high easily (although that card you pointed out would be an improvement over what I have).

This game's requirements goes WAY beyond that....Although in actuality, the actual visuals don't. Like I said earlier, it's about as unforgiving as NWN2.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on May 23, 2008, 11:07:23 AM
I'll tell you one thing I don't like for sure: The anxiety I feel every time I see another bug or outage message. I keep worrying that I suckered myself into another Funcom travesty. I'm praying to the gaming gods that this will not come to pass as I really like the game so far.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Montague on May 23, 2008, 11:36:45 AM
Funcom continues to piss people off. Priests of Mitra got nerfed with the latest patch, nothing in the patch notes.

Come on, this is like MMORPG 101: Put nerfs in the patch notes. You are not smarter than the playerbase, they will find out and have it posted on the forums before you get back from coffee break.

These guys can give Sanya a year's worth of material on her blog.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 23, 2008, 11:39:15 AM
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These guys can give Sanya a year's worth of material on her blog.

The fuck they can.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on May 23, 2008, 12:54:25 PM
The game is fun as of level 6 but I know some thing I don't mind now are going to bother me in a few weeks. The animations? horrible, Horrible. I look like some retarded spider monekey with cerebral palsy and have you even tried jumping?! The game has that ultra-realistic plasticy look that plagued EQ2, not as bad but when I'm wearing cloth, it shouldn't look like it's all made of rubber.

All in all the game feels like it just wasn't quite finished. There's a fun game under there but it needs polish.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nerf on May 23, 2008, 03:33:37 PM
Are you playing the same game everyone else is, or did you go out and buy the conan game for ps3, and are complaining about that?

Of all the adjectives I'd use to describe AoC, unpolished isn't fucking one of them.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Numtini on May 23, 2008, 03:52:02 PM
Quote
Of all the adjectives I'd use to describe AoC, unpolished isn't fucking one of them.

Wow, it's the first one I'd use.

(Edit: ok, wrong, first would be "buggy" second would be "unpolished".)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 23, 2008, 04:02:10 PM
You're in the minority there.

Anyone who thinks Conan is unpolished doesn't know what that word means.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 23, 2008, 04:06:43 PM
Well... I have encountered two things...

I did get stuck twice in seperate places. And /stuck just put me on queue for a CSR. So I recalled instead. Two problems there -- the areas I got stuck in were absolute no brainers. Kind of hard to describe, but they shouldn't have been overlooked. And the fact that /stuck doesn't relocate you is kind of lame (even Shadowbane did that).

[edit] Oh, and my helmet doesn't fit on right.

Uhh... and my HoX goes bald after getting out of demon form.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nerf on May 23, 2008, 04:07:34 PM
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g72/socwise/dumbbroadsk9.jpg)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Dtrain on May 23, 2008, 04:13:11 PM
You're in the minority there.

Anyone who thinks Conan is unpolished doesn't know what that word means.

They're right though, it's not Polished - it's Norwegianed.

Seriously though, the game looks fine so far, though I have admittedly only played 10 levels.

What did they do to nerf the priest of mitra?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Abelian75 on May 23, 2008, 04:42:10 PM
What did they do to nerf the priest of mitra?

We had a talent (sorry, "feat") that made one of our healing spells also have an AoE damage effect.  At level 31, it did more damage than my strongest single-target direct damage spell, and cost less mana.  And was AoE.  And healed.  It was obviously broken.  It needed to be changed.  I still feel like the class is kinda insanely powerful, honestly.  It's cool having a powerful healer and all, but this seems a little overboard.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Sir T on May 23, 2008, 05:25:09 PM
I don't like that you cant change the movement keys to what you want...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Trippy on May 23, 2008, 05:37:28 PM
You're in the minority there.

Anyone who thinks Conan is unpolished doesn't know what that word means.
No, many parts of the game *are* unpolished while other parts aren't. Depending on how you weight things that'll determine how you view the game overall. For example the starter quests are very polished as are the combat mechanics (ignoring the ridiculous animations) and the overall world building. On the other hand the UI is horrific and many of the animation transitions are basically nonexistent (e.g. try jumping against an object, it makes the jump animation look even more horrible than when you are jumping straight up and down) on top of the fact that many of the animations look like total crap. The Night quests difficulty is also horribly borked making the game frustrating difficult depending on what class you pick.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 23, 2008, 05:43:07 PM
Having played Hellgate London, I just can't bring myself to complain about the Animation. And having played every other MMOG, I just can't really complain about the GUI other than the minimap and chat box. Also, complaining about the JUMPING animation is just reaching. And I'm a harsh motherfucker.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Trippy on May 23, 2008, 05:46:17 PM
Some of us just like jumping :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mazakiel on May 23, 2008, 07:18:11 PM
Few complaints so far, though I did have one minor annoyance I came across, it may have already been noted here.  I had no idea that, for example, my conqueror had a buff I started with until I enabled the extra hot bars after first getting to Tortuga.  Mostly my fault for running straight into things without taking a second to check things, but it still took me by surprise. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: tmp on May 23, 2008, 08:00:05 PM
Also, complaining about the JUMPING animation is just reaching. And I'm a harsh motherfucker.
The number of people who do pay attention to jumping animation (because they can't help it but jump at least once every 5 seconds) and *will* bitch about it, is unreal. LotRO tweaked their female jump animation recently; change resulted in long whining threads on official forums with people declaring this change totally ruins the game for them, because now they feel like retards when they jump. (yeah, somehow they didn't feel like retards jumping all over the place before)  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Xilren's Twin on May 23, 2008, 08:18:22 PM
Ok, while the lasted group of patches has helped, im still having lots of graphical weirdness.  Im running in low quality, inside a window and still will see scenes like the below every 10-15 minutes or so.  This is what my first glipse of the city looked like.  If i rotated to the right, i could see normal terrain, rotate back to city, got it again.

Any ideas what the heck is going on?

Dual Core
3 GB Ram
Geforce 7900 GS 256MB
Nvidia 175.16 drivers

(http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5633/xilrenpicture000to1.png)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 23, 2008, 08:45:05 PM
Graphics card overheating. Happens to me.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Trippy on May 23, 2008, 09:29:35 PM
I don't like that you cant change the movement keys to what you want...
You can sort of change them. I remapped my strafe keys to A and D but thanks to the horrific UI mentioned above I can't remap rotate left and right to Z and C (which are the default strafe keys) so I have to use the mouse to do that.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Sir T on May 24, 2008, 04:05:12 AM
Thats ecactly what I tried to do and it started changing the controls back, saying those keys were reserved...  :mob:

{edit}

Oh, and they are sending out a stock email with a long list of "answers to common questions" I sent them a couple of emails one saying I couldn't log in despite having my account active, and another telling them that it had resolved itself and to ignore the previous email. I get the same response for both emails. (I.e. 2 of the same email were sent to me.)

Quote
Greetings,

We understand that there are still some problems and confusion with a
number of player accounts as well as in-game technical issues. This
email, while a form response, was specifically written to address the
major issues and to direct you to the appropriate places to help you
solve your problems. Please read through it to find the section that
addresses your issue. We understand some account and in-game issues are
quite specific (or even unique) in nature and will require us to look
into them individually. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL IF THAT IS THE
CASE. REPLIES TO THIS EMAIL WILL NOT BE ANSWERED.

If you are having an account or billing issue, please direct your query
to the account departments. That email address is account@ageofconan.com
<mailto:account@ageofconan.com>.

If you are having a technical issue, whether in client set-up or in game
problem, please direct your query to the tech department. That email
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*If you did purchase your EA pass but your account froze*, it means that
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*For those that purchased the EA pass and were never able to utilize the
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Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Trippy on May 24, 2008, 04:10:36 AM
Thats ecactly what I tried to do and it started changing the controls back, saying those keys were reserved...  :mob:
Yup you can only change one set to the other, you can't swap them. When you try you get that message.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Numtini on May 24, 2008, 07:39:20 AM
I seem to find myself playing a lot of search for the dot with different use items. The thingie at the top of the volcano was the worst, I kept waggling the mouse around trying to get that one spot where the gear icon appeared. But it happens with a lot of things. I had a hard time finding my way up the mountain because a climb icon didn't appear at once point, but a message that i couldn't climb there did. That's the kind of thing i mean about unpolished.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mazakiel on May 24, 2008, 08:58:33 AM
On switching movement keys around, or making pairs of assigned keys do different things, you might try changing one set, like assigning new strafe buttons, then hitting apply before changing the old keys to something.  That might let it happen, I'm pretty sure that's what I did to get past that annoyance. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nerf on May 24, 2008, 09:54:19 AM
I seem to find myself playing a lot of search for the dot with different use items. The thingie at the top of the volcano was the worst, I kept waggling the mouse around trying to get that one spot where the gear icon appeared. But it happens with a lot of things. I had a hard time finding my way up the mountain because a climb icon didn't appear at once point, but a message that i couldn't climb there did. That's the kind of thing i mean about unpolished.

It was saying "You can climb here!" because there were ladders leading down, incase you fell and didn't want to sacrifice yourself to the lava to start over again.

Waggling the mouse to use somthing? The gear icon appears just above your hotbar if you get close to somthing you can use.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Numtini on May 24, 2008, 10:27:37 AM
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Waggling the mouse to use somthing? The gear icon appears just above your hotbar if you get close to somthing you can use.

Yes, the problem is it doesn't appear and I'm waggling the mouse around to find the sweet spot where it does.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Sir T on May 24, 2008, 11:07:50 AM
I had that too.  Even clicking on the loot bag with the mouse only workled sporadicly.

Not exactly game breaking but really annoying.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 24, 2008, 11:11:25 AM
If an item I'm supposed to find doesn't have a glow or wavy lines or something, I tend to miss it.  Targeting them is difficult too, sometimes.  Once in a while I turn in a certain direction and get the symbol at the bottom of my screen and can use the U button, but that doesn't always happen.  It's all very inconsistent and I agree it needs more attention to detail and polish.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: AcidCat on May 24, 2008, 01:53:15 PM
The jumping is kind of annoying, it is one of the few graphical aspects of the game that does feel unpolished. Several times I've tried to jump over a relatively low wall right in front of me and got an odd "hanging in the air" glitched animation, where if I go back a few feet I can clear it easily. Small fences of the same height I can jump over in some situations but can't seem to in others.

Of course it is a very minor nitpick. After upgrading my video card I've been extremely impressed with the graphics. I'd say the animation is just fine on average too.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 24, 2008, 02:37:59 PM
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an odd "hanging in the air" glitched animation

I get that!  I thought I was just awesome!   :oh_i_see:


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Rasix on May 24, 2008, 03:21:18 PM
This is going to a long list, but I do like the game.  To me, it is lacking a lot of polish.  Part of the problem is that I'm coming from a game that launched with a great deal of polish and continually added more over the past what.. 3 years?   Game generally feels like it's out of beta about 2-3 months too soon.

Minor quibbles:
- "/" does not go automatically to chat.
- Lack of combat log filtering.  I have yet to see how to do this, but I want to just see what I'm doing, not what everyone else is doing.
- Jumping animation is crap.  I'm one of those jacktards that likes to pogo stick around.
- Beginning (level 10-20) armor looks pretty crappy.  Most of my character look like hobos. 
- Non glowing quest ground spawns.  Yikes.  Hard to find.  Luckily I've only seen this a few times.

Greater annoyances:
-Broken quests in the Tortage night.  Renton quest I had to bypass completely. This is annoying because you miss out on a good chunk of exp and likely a nicer looking item.
-Some classes feel extremely gimpy early on.  Most cloth classes have terribly survivability due to a number of factors.  HoX must be hell to play and I hear leveling a Bearshaman to 20 is pure pain..  A lack of early variety and spell upgrades can hurt.    A lot of this could be the complete reworking of a commoner -> more specialized -> even more specialized early game.
-As a Demonologist, your beginning spells do not scale very well as you level up.  You go from one shotting everything to having to hit an even con with your main nuke 7 times to drown it.
-THE PERFORMANCE.  Good god, I do not have a bad computer.  8800GT 512MB, 2 gigs ram, and a Pentium D (dual core) 3.0Ghz. Processor and HD are likely my weakest link, but this machine even ran The Witcher well (ram upgrades and vid card upgrades prompted by the game).  I've had to turn a lot of stuff completey off and down.  Texture cache is maxed and view quality at 0 so most effects look like dog crap. 

This will be the deal breaker for me.  I can go play WoW and get 60 frames in a 25 man raid.  This game just sputters.  I get these damn hitches every so often that bring my 30-50 FPS down to low teen or single digits for a moment.  Incredibly annoying and the game has gone from looking pretty good to looking somewhat bland.  The character models still look great, but I've had to really turn off a lot of what made the game world look great.

Updating drivers and defragging, but I think this needs Funcom to further optimize their client or I'll be done before the first month is up.   

- I really looks like there's going to be a lack of healers and tanks.  They are not sexy classes at all. Whether or not this becomes a problem remains to be seen, but you pretty much need the tank/healer for most higher end PVP, because for the most part MMO designers can't get beyond this paradigm.  I've played healing classes pretty much exclusively in WoW (not always as a healer) but I don't find the PoS or PoM interesting at all.   They should likely give healing spells to one of the clothies.

- My pet is pretty fucking useless so far as demo. Long ass cast times, terrible damage, terrible buff,  and as ranged, I don't see how it can be an effective tank at all.  I know this is going to sound less than heterosexual, but can we put some undies on it? My wife isn't going to be too pleased the first time she sees my tittie demon pet.

There is other shit they need to fix.  But the real only huge enjoyment dampener is the client performance.  Otherwise, I can see me putting WoW on hold until the expansion for this game. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 24, 2008, 03:30:00 PM
I'll agree on most of that, but I happen to like the beginning armor. Hobos have never looked better. I like all of the armor. That's just how conan stuff looks (i.e. a mixture of bronze age as well as high fantasy styling).


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 24, 2008, 03:35:59 PM
When you are in a group of six and need to burn twenty tents and someone burns one it should count for everyone damn it.  Having six people desperately running around as the tents come back is completely absurd.

I also just found out that if you die on a "kill so and so" quest you don't get credit, even if you don't release.  Insanity.

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- My pet is pretty fucking useless so far as demo. Long ass cast times, terrible damage, terrible buff,  and as ranged, I don't see how it can be an effective tank at all.  I know this is going to sound less than heterosexual, but can we put some undies on it? My wife isn't going to be too pleased the first time she sees my tittie demon pet.
It is my understanding that pets are mostly for buffs and don't really serve much of a purpose themselves.  The early buffs are pretty sucky.  Once in a while a necro can randomly get a good dps pet but it goes away I think.  The stupid things also can't cross water, follow through zone changes etc.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Viin on May 24, 2008, 03:36:23 PM
All of the priests are healers, but only 1 of them focuses on healing. As a ToS my mail spells are damage but I have a couple of party healing spells too... so really it's a mage/healer hybrid.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 24, 2008, 03:48:53 PM
PoM can dish it out too (well, they could). I think everything in here is pretty much a hybrid, except Assassin, Guard, and Barb.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 24, 2008, 04:48:36 PM
PoM seems to dish out better than heal.  I'm not finding it great.  I didn't like barbarian much, either.  I'll get my PoM to 20, just to do it, and then I'll try something else.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Xuri on May 24, 2008, 04:58:14 PM
- "/" does not go automatically to chat.
Which / ? The only straightforward / key on my Norwegian keyboard is on the numpad, and it takes me into chat automatically.
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- Lack of combat log filtering.  I have yet to see how to do this, but I want to just see what I'm doing, not what everyone else is doing.
Create a new chat-window specifically for combat, right click it, select "Subscribe Channels" then select which combat messages to display. Also, remove them from main chat window if they're not automatically done when creating the combat channel.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Rasix on May 24, 2008, 06:40:33 PM

Create a new chat-window specifically for combat, right click it, select "Subscribe Channels" then select which combat messages to display. Also, remove them from main chat window if they're not automatically done when creating the combat channel.

Just saw that today.  Guess I just didn't know where to look to adjust the filtering.

The "/" in question is the one that shares space with "?" (? is shift /).  The numpad one works, but I've tradionally used the keyboard does not.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Numtini on May 24, 2008, 07:39:55 PM
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This will be the deal breaker for me.  I can go play WoW and get 60 frames in a 25 man raid.  This game just sputters.  I get these damn hitches every so often that bring my 30-50 FPS down to low teen or single digits for a moment.  Incredibly annoying and the game has gone from looking pretty good to looking somewhat bland.  The character models still look great, but I've had to really turn off a lot of what made the game world look great.

Did you try rebooting right before you play? That is a perfect description of the problems I've had. Pretty much, I can't run anything that invokes 3d whatsoever or it does this. Reboot and it's fine again.

On level 20, there was something that once you'd done it, you didn't have to do it again and again. Is that the case or was that something that disappeared.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Rasix on May 25, 2008, 12:28:08 AM
Did you try rebooting right before you play? That is a perfect description of the problems I've had. Pretty much, I can't run anything that invokes 3d whatsoever or it does this. Reboot and it's fine again.

Rebooting did zip.

20 FPS in Khopesh.  WTF.  At least the non sputtering parts of Tortage were 30-50 FPS.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 25, 2008, 01:18:21 AM
My lowest FPS comes in Khopesh. On both the old and new card.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Kirth on May 25, 2008, 03:50:45 AM
All of the priests are healers, but only 1 of them focuses on healing. As a ToS my mail spells are damage but I have a couple of party healing spells too... so really it's a mage/healer hybrid.

I didn't have a problem solo healing the level 40 instanced we 4 manned last night as a bear shaman.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Hound on May 25, 2008, 04:19:53 AM
too much zoning
very linear with not a lot of freedom as far as movement or game play

the game reminds me of CoX with swords and sorcery. That is not a bad thing I suppose, however I doubt it will retain me past the free 30


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Tarami on May 25, 2008, 10:47:22 AM
Tortage. Oh, my God, what horrible first experience. The day quests feel like filler just to get you levelled up enough to get the night quests done. I don't think I'll ever roll an alt in this game.

Compartmentalisation. I get why (I don't, really, I just wrote that to seem understanding), but it's still not fun. Especially not as you get ganked near the spawn points, then the ganker jumps to another instance of the zone and you have no idea which.

Exploration. This game has seemingly none.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 25, 2008, 11:16:37 AM
Unpolished as in:

- Client is shit-ptimezed. Works great for many, stutters like hell for lots of people with far better machines. That can be a deal breaker as no one likes stuttering and low fps anymore, especially when your machine is a beast.

- Equipment is a joke. Stat-wise AND look wise. Believe it or not but at lev 49 I am wearing the same identical sandals I got at level 5 (only they are level 46), same identical skirt (only this is level 44) and a blood-curdled shirt which looks like a level 1 piece of garment. Up to level 47 I had a shirt identical to level 1 kind (only with a level 46 min. req.).
On the weapon department I have a blue hammer which has the identical model/texture of a level 18 quest reward (and a many other 1h hammer I looted later), or I can switch to a polearm which is just a lance identical to the level 16 kind. It doesn't matter what level you are, up to level 50 you keep wearing the same shit with slightly different stats. Not sure if it changes later. Five years in development and it looks like they didn't have the time/money to add enough equipment variety. Miserable.

- Also, lots of clipping on the player character and their equipment, like long weapons touching the grounds and melting with it when they are rested on your back, or shields becoming part of your back with parts of your shirts coming out of it. I know nothing about polygons and models but I don't like it and it sounds to me like the opposite of "polished". It's not my job to make it as shit like this doesn't happen.

- The amount of bugged quests is scary.

- City building features not in yet. Nothing says so though. You and your friends invest lots of money in it and then fuck nothing happens. You have to go look on the boards to find out someone who was told by a GM that the feature is not completed yet. A joke.

- Crafting extremely bugged, to the point of game-breaking.

- Trader, personal bank and auction house still not working, not in the game. You can carry 24 items (28 with the cheap bag) and that's it. You can't bank anything. Just sell or trash.

- Incredible amount of random crashes, some of which requires GM intervention (Lacheish Plains, Field of the Dead).


This things are all serious to me, and if you can't say a game in this state is unpolished then Schild is right, I don't know what "polished" means. It says a lot that it took me 7 weeks EDIT: days to notice. I was having LOTS of fun and I am still having it, but looks like they did their best to hide the dirt under the carpet. The game is in an atrocious state and when the novelty starts to wear off and you venture further on in the game world and start to explore the game features well a putrid black hole suddenly appears.

As someone else said, the paint really starts to peel off after some time, and while I am still having fun I am at the same time worried about what's coming next. Funcom communication is ridiculous to say the least, and basically none of my (not just mine) concerns has been addressed at all officially. At least not on the European boards, and I can't see the US boards.


P.S: I petitioned to have my crafting quest deleted, nothing fancy. I was 83 yesterday night. 24 hours later I am 50. Now it says that the /Pet (the Petition bot) is offline. Weeeeee  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 25, 2008, 11:39:02 AM
Almost forgot:

- lots of broken items. Many have 0.1 or 0.2 stats at level 1 and/or at level 46. Working as intended? Wow, cool then. So what about a pendant which casts a Rune of Immunity every 20 seconds with a 15 seconds auto recast? I am permanently immune... to what? And what about a cloak with a magnificent bonus of 0.01 immunity? Immunity to what? What will be 0.01 immunized by the cloak? Crom knows (maybe). Not very polished.

This happens a lot. Whoever was in charge of itemization simply put did a poor job.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 25, 2008, 11:44:20 AM
The loot totally confuses me.  Why would I bother upgrading from a level 1 armour item to a level 20, if their stats are both the same?  It's not as if any of seems to be special looking... quite the contrary. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on May 25, 2008, 11:48:40 AM
Seattle area folks may be SOL if they want to pick up a retail copy. Fry's, Best Buy, EBGames in both Northgate and Pacific Place are all sold out. Best Buy says they have pre-orders noone has picked up that they can release on Tuesday, so if you want to go camp spawn it Tuesday morning, be my guest.

I suspect that come the 27th, Funcom will suspend my account till my pre-order for the CE edition from Amazon comes. Which if logic serves in this case, can't possibly happened, since there simply aren't any CEs left.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 25, 2008, 12:01:40 PM
Gonna keep this list short, because it's the 3 things that need to be addressed for me to last a Long Time in this game:

1. Player cities - specifically PvE ones. They are totally fucked.
2. Crafting - it's totally fucked.
3. Itemization - Just needs some time and creativity and it's fixed. Also, throw loot tables on mobs from level 1-40. Post 40 it gets  a lot better. Also, make the stats make some fucking sense.

Basically, these are 3 things I suspect are first on the list to get fixed/finished, so I'm not particularly worried. For me, the 1-40 levels are more than adequate enough that I'm gonna take 5-6 toons to level 40 over the next couple weeks and see what happens with Funcom from there. After that, well, it's really up to them. I like the core of the game long enough that writing out a long list of gripes about little piddly shit here and there just isn't worth my time.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 25, 2008, 12:13:37 PM
I feel about the same.  If they fix the things that I'm interested in, mainly crafting, city building and sieging, I'm happy to fiddle around with the 1 - 40 game for a bit.  Like you said, it's up to them.  If they take too long and I get weary of the first half of the game, then I'm off.  Eventually I'm off anyway, because that just who I am.  I can always come back when they tidy up the game.  Unless I forget.  Then oh well. 

I'm babbling.

Anyway, if you don't get the CE, Engels, I have the one Amazon sent me the day after I bitched at them.   :grin:  If yours is canceled, you can buy this one if you like.  I was planning to return it, anyway.  Or maybe they'll have the regular one... the CE isn't really worth the price, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nija on May 25, 2008, 01:36:42 PM
This things are all serious to me, and if you can't say a game in this state is unpolished then Schild is right, I don't know what "polished" means. It says a lot that it took me 7 weeks EDIT: days to notice. I was having LOTS of fun and I am still having it, but looks like they did their best to hide the dirt under the carpet. The game is in an atrocious state and when the novelty starts to wear off and you venture further on in the game world and start to explore the game features well a putrid black hole suddenly appears.

Told you so.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 25, 2008, 01:43:52 PM
Almost forgot:

- lots of broken items. Many have 0.1 or 0.2 stats at level 1 and/or at level 46. Working as intended? Wow, cool then. So what about a pendant which casts a Rune of Immunity every 20 seconds with a 15 seconds auto recast? I am permanently immune... to what? And what about a cloak with a magnificent bonus of 0.01 immunity? Immunity to what? What will be 0.01 immunized by the cloak? Crom knows (maybe). Not very polished.

This happens a lot. Whoever was in charge of itemization simply put did a poor job.
The stats are complete gibberish.  A few days ago they changed that defence proficiency, which is always a decimal for some reason, into "heroic defence" or some nonsense.  Still have no idea what it does.  I like watching the mid twenty level dual wielders running around with that dagger on their hip that actually has the graphic of a bow...  How the hell does that get by even the most rudimentary of testing?

My extra complaint:  Terrible community relations.  They have a huge number of bugs, many of which are royally screwing people and they haven't said a word about them.  Will people get their gold back, have the talents that were wrongly removed reset, get the city structures that failed put up, get fixes for their destiny quests?  How about an update on the fucking trader or at least telling us why it's down?  As I spend more time playing this the number of bugs and problems is really starting to wear me down.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on May 25, 2008, 02:12:15 PM
Anyway, if you don't get the CE, Engels, I have the one Amazon sent me the day after I bitched at them.   :grin:  If yours is canceled, you can buy this one if you like.  I was planning to return it, anyway.  Or maybe they'll have the regular one... the CE isn't really worth the price, in my opinion.

Thanks Signe, depending on how it goes, I may just take you up on that.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Hawkbit on May 25, 2008, 05:59:26 PM
No sense quoting the whole thing, but Falconeer's post 194 hits the nail on the head for me. 

I can forgive little things being wrong, but not having guild cities, traders, banks and crafting working at launch is bullpucky. 

It's not game-breaking, but the bait and switch that is the DX10 fiasco is a prime example of how either clueless or underhanded Funcom is to me.  We were told both DX9 and DX10 versions were shipping.  It even says DX10 supported on the back of the game box.  And the *day before* launch they tell their investors (and subsequently players) it's not in at launch.  That's sheisty. 

Don't get me wrong.  Right now I'm having fun.  But the new car smell is fading and I fear I might have a lemon.  It smells of a flagshipping. 

What's really, really sad is that this game makes me miss EQ1.  :(



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 25, 2008, 06:22:07 PM
This game is nothing like EQ1.

Anyway, some of the DX10 stuff works, we have a machine here running it in dx10 and the water, fog effects and things like that are hugely different.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: AcidCat on May 25, 2008, 10:59:17 PM

Don't get me wrong.  Right now I'm having fun.  But the new car smell is fading and I fear I might have a lemon. 


I'm getting a similar feeling, but with the "right now I'm having fun" part I don't feel too much like complaining. I've been waiting for the loot to get better and the stats to start making sense but so far they really haven't and from the sounds of many folks' comments that doesn't really change. It's a shame because I do like loot and getting noticably better stuff that has a variety of visual appearances but so far that just isn't happening. I do still enjoy combat and the ambiance of the environments but I'm sure those things will only last me so long. I also can't imagine making any progress with alts because the 1-20 experience really started to bog down towards the end.

And as much as I'm enjoying the game I have not yet cancelled my WoW subscription. I guess that says something right there.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 25, 2008, 11:58:11 PM
Today's patch does nothing other than nerf fix some kind of Demonologist exploit.

No bank fixes, no crafting fixes, no items love, no client stability nor performance improvements. *sigh*


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Rasix on May 26, 2008, 12:34:07 AM

And as much as I'm enjoying the game I have not yet cancelled my WoW subscription. I guess that says something right there.


This.

I haven't played a game this compulsively in a while, but the client issues and overall vibe this that game has months before it's working as intended are starting to wear on me.   :|


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 26, 2008, 01:21:36 AM
Scratch everything I said about not liking anything. I'm patient and can take a bunch of classes up to 40 while waiting for shit to get patched in. Rather, I want to beat the ever living fuck out of their PR and Community Relation folks. Hard. In the eyes.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 26, 2008, 04:03:27 AM
Official forum (EU). No idea if it's on the US forums too.

Things to come.

http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=10589

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Greetings,

There are some points you, our community, would like to get some information about. Or even better have them fixed as soon as possible. While the following is not a real schedule or promise, we would still like to tell you where our focus in regard of fixing open issues lies at the moment. Some of these updates and fixes might come earlier than others But we are working on them and will try to have solutions for them as soon as possible. Some of those points are:


- Tradepost NPCs
- Field of the Dead performance improvment
- UI changes
- Chat colors and fixes
- Various technical issues with hardware configurations


There are of course also other topics we work on but the above mentioned ones are those we feel have to be fixed as soon as possible while still making sure they are fixed correctly and in a persistent manner.

So, I hope that helps to give you a rough overview how things are. Please rest assured that we are indeed listening to your feedback and that it is very important to us to hear what our customers think. Even if you might not always get a direct answer to your questions in a post doesn't mean that we don't notice and forward them to the right people.

We are very much looking forward to the weeks, months and years to come. The launch of an MMO is always just the beginning of an exciting journey. The first step has been made now.

Thank you,

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Some additional issues have been reported by players and this is to confirm that we have gathered that feedback and sent it on so they can be looked at as soon as possible:

    * Playercity buildings being destroyable at the moment
    * Exploits concerning different classes
    * Getting stuck in some playfields and unable to log back in with that character
    * Download of additonal big patches
    * Parts of the Destiny Quests which can not be finished correctly


As soon as we have additional information on these and other issues we will inform you of course.

Again. Thanks for your feedback and input. We hear you and do forward those points to the departments in charge.

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We are also looking into the following issues:

    * Quest Log getting full
    * /claim not getting all the pre-order items
    * Socketed Items raise problems with other items



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 26, 2008, 05:44:28 AM
Scratch everything I said about not liking anything. I'm patient and can take a bunch of classes up to 40 while waiting for shit to get patched in. Rather, I want to beat the ever living fuck out of their PR and Community Relation folks. Hard. In the eyes.

I usually don't pay much attention to all that stuff unless I have a big problem and it's not addressed pronto, but I have to say, they even annoy the hell out of me.  Anyway, being the shy person I am, I'm taking this opportunity to tell you I'm cheering you on.  From the back, in the shadows, where no one can point at me.  Make them cry.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Special J on May 26, 2008, 07:54:24 AM
So I picked it up and played over the weekend. So far, I'm finding it pretty fun.  Still in Tortage with a level 14 Herald of Xotli.  Starting a Barbarian as well.

Two things

Graphic glitches!  My character model doesn't always render properly.  For example when I transform back from that monster thingy my character has come back with normal hair, white hair, no hair. Who knows?  When I put on a short robe, the top part of my legs didn't render so I was torso floating over a pair of legs.

I have no goddamn clue what these combos do. Maybe it's by design?  Reading the description of Molten Steel Slash it tells me it debuffs their fire and slash resist.  What it doesn't tell you is it does a fuckton of damage.  I would have had no clue from the description.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 26, 2008, 08:22:57 AM
Yes, add that to my in-game list, too.  Really, really poor in-game documentation of not only items, but spells, combos, and just about everything else.  I don't recognise the "I'm Norwegian" excuse for the poor documentation, either.  My grandfather could describe a bottle of vodka in English, even when most of it was in him.  If you're as serious about something as my grandfather was about vodka, you can make yourself understood.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Numtini on May 26, 2008, 09:15:47 AM
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I have no goddamn clue what these combos do. Maybe it's by design?  Reading the description of Molten Steel Slash it tells me it debuffs their fire and slash resist.  What it doesn't tell you is it does a fuckton of damage.  I would have had no clue from the description.

What it looks like to me from going through the combat log is if you're in a combo, it ignores the armor facing and uses a base damage taken from the attack--you get that base damage for each swipe in the chain and the effect of the combo itself--which could be damage or could be something else and which isn't documented well.

My swipes normally do 25/60/90 depending on blocking and my enraging strike III requires 2 swipes to go off. I get three attacks at the same 90-ish damage despite the fact that one of those swipes was against three shields and one against open. No idea which of the three is attached to the taunt effect.

My overhead enraging strike, I get damage in the 60s, again, irregardless of the shielding, plus an extra hit, plus the bleeding DOT.

My dulling blow has two swipes. I get 60-ish damage for two hits, and then I get the debuff from it for the "combo" but no damage because the effect of the combo is a debuff, not damage.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 26, 2008, 09:17:35 AM
So, I'm going to let you all decide, should I try to get an interview with someone or just completely blast them on the frontpage?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 26, 2008, 09:21:01 AM
Blast them on the frontpage with a damage dealing interview.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Kirth on May 26, 2008, 09:23:51 AM
So, I'm going to let you all decide, should I try to get an interview with someone or just completely blast them on the frontpage?

Interview, ask them why they released a game that was 30% done.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 26, 2008, 09:36:25 AM
So, I'm going to let you all decide, should I try to get an interview with someone or just completely blast them on the frontpage?

Interview, ask them why they released a game that was 30% done.
We already know the answer, they ran out of money.  Their stock price got gutted the last time they announced a delay.

It's a real shame because I am enjoying the parts of the game that actually work but all the bugs, lack of polish and terrible communication is starting to overwhelm me.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Kirth on May 26, 2008, 09:43:01 AM
So, I'm going to let you all decide, should I try to get an interview with someone or just completely blast them on the frontpage?

Interview, ask them why they released a game that was 30% done.
We already know the answer, they ran out of money.  Their stock price got gutted the last time they announced a delay.

It's a real shame because I am enjoying the parts of the game that actually work but all the bugs, lack of polish and terrible communication is starting to overwhelm me.

I'm enjoying it as well, I'm willing to wait a while and see what gets fixed.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on May 26, 2008, 09:48:24 AM
So, I'm going to let you all decide, should I try to get an interview with someone or just completely blast them on the frontpage?

Offer an interview first. Gentlemen offer the oportunity of apology before demanding pistols at dawn.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 26, 2008, 10:07:26 AM
Interview and then blast them on the front page.  Why can't we have it all?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Tarami on May 26, 2008, 12:17:22 PM
A nitpicky detail that's really boring me is the tarty women. I'm not offended as such, but it gets horribly, horribly boring when every other female NPC is a buxom wench. The rest just look like it. It feels very juvenile rather than "mature".


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Montague on May 26, 2008, 01:03:28 PM
It's getting harder and harder to log in.

Itemization is a joke, Crafting is buggered, Dungeons are borked, and guild cities are broken. There's no economy.

Literally the only reason for playing right now is questing and ding-gratz. It's getting old.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: stray on May 26, 2008, 01:34:16 PM
Geez... You guys almost make me happy that I can't play.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Threash on May 26, 2008, 01:36:34 PM
It's getting harder and harder to log in.

Itemization is a joke, Crafting is buggered, Dungeons are borked, and guild cities are broken. There's no economy.

Literally the only reason for playing right now is questing and ding-gratz. It's getting old.

In less than a week? i can see the ding-gratz keeping me happy for at least the next couple months.  If they havent got their shit together by then and have some decent end game content then it might get old.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 26, 2008, 01:44:21 PM
Ding-gratz is tightly bound to being able to use better equipment. If the equipment flatly sucks, then dingin' lose 50% of its appeal (other 50 being killing higher level mobs).


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Zetor on May 26, 2008, 11:44:19 PM
- Total lack of class balance. Yeah, they might be 'balanced at 80', but I don't see anyone in my guild getting to 80 anytime soon [or ever]. My priest of mitra can easily take 3-4 +1 mobs at once (and I'm -not- specced for the broken purification AOE) and solo +2 bosses with ease while my HoX and bear shaman guildies struggle if there's more than one mob. If someone says 'l2p' to this, please to be dying in a fire, kthxbye.
- Stability issues. My PC is not amazing (and I'm running at minimum settings), but -every time- I try to zone into a PVP minigame (3 times so far), it hard-locks and reboots. Eff that noise, if you're gonna crash, at least have the decency to not take the OS with you.
- Trader NPCs still not being in... come on, this is MMO 101.
- Drops are meh. What was wrong with the WOW model of stackable grey items for vendor trash instead of eleventy billion useless armor pieces (edit: though it seems to work ok for beast/monster drops)? It's really fun to play 'find-the-quest-reward-among-the-crap-with-the-same-model', too.
- Inventory is a mess. If they're going to give us such a limited number of slots in which to store the aforementioned useless drops from NPCs, at least put useful stuff like consumables and food in its own section.
- Crafting... yeah, I won't go there.

The game's still enjoyable thanks to the combat system, but I can't see myself [or the guild] getting to the level cap before quitting of frustration. Ah Funcom, how we love thee!


-- Z.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 27, 2008, 01:31:32 AM
Thing I was writing delayed til tomorrow. Trying to get ahold of a specific someone at Funcom and got an update. Will post more as I hopefully will talk to him in the morning.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Tale on May 27, 2008, 02:43:19 AM
nemo38 and his Harold of Xolti (http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2025404#2025404)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on May 27, 2008, 05:22:52 AM
If there is one... I can't find it... but holy hell playing a Ranger would be so much damn easier if there was a single toggle button to switch between first and third person.

edit: Oh, and there being no difference between races other than what classes they can play is "meh". Unless I'm missing something.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Special J on May 27, 2008, 06:08:37 AM
nemo38 and his Harold of Xolti (http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2025404#2025404)

What an awesome post.

I have another gripe, but maybe there's a cure that I don't know about:

 Do I really need to click through 6 GODDAMN VIDEOS JUST TO GET TO THE LOGIN SCREEN?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 27, 2008, 06:11:47 AM
If there is one... I can't find it... but holy hell playing a Ranger would be so much damn easier if there was a single toggle button to switch between first and third person.

edit: Oh, and there being no difference between races other than what classes they can play is "meh". Unless I'm missing something.

Scroll wheel seems to work fine for me...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on May 27, 2008, 06:19:59 AM
It works, sure. But it would be nice to hit one button and instantly change from one to the other. It's a preference, I guess, but certainly something I don't like.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mazakiel on May 27, 2008, 06:36:51 AM
-That I can't get stuff like quest drops or credit for something during night, unless it's marked as a night quest.  Would it really be so hard to have some overlap? 
-That I get better FPS/performance on medium rather than low.  I need to upgrade my card, yes, but I'd rather get a smoother play experience until I can. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 27, 2008, 06:53:05 AM
nemo38 and his Harold of Xolti (http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2025404#2025404)

God.  That name is awesome.  I like it better than Cohen the Librarian and Ice Cream Conan.  Damn you, Funcom, for not alloowing multiple word names! 

PS  Nemo is obviously the bottom droog.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 27, 2008, 07:45:03 AM
A whole bunch of classes are complaining about stealth nerfs with today's patch.  The patch notes didn't mention a whole bunch of class changes they made.  It looks like they have been spending their time nerfing classes rather than fixing anything.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 27, 2008, 08:05:58 AM
Yeah, I saw that.  Evidently they snuck up behind the Rangers and replaced their bow with trouts.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Zetor on May 27, 2008, 08:15:08 AM
Oh yeah, two quest-related gripes I left out from the previous post:
- Long respawn timers on quest [named] mobs / items. I spent about 10 mins camping the yeti in conall's valley because some jackass stealther KS'd it when I rested after clearing the area of other mobs.
- No objective sharing in groups. C'mon, this should be elementary by now, if someone kills a mob / loots a quest item / etc, everyone else in the group should get credit appropriately.


-- Z.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on May 27, 2008, 08:31:43 AM
Yeah, I saw that.  Evidently they snuck up behind the Rangers and replaced their bow with trouts.

At 28, my ranger with bow spec seems about the same. If anything now my range improvement talent actually seems to do something.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on May 27, 2008, 08:35:36 AM
Oh yeah, two quest-related gripes I left out from the previous post:
- Long respawn timers on quest [named] mobs / items. I spent about 10 mins camping the yeti in conall's valley because some jackass stealther KS'd it when I rested after clearing the area of other mobs.
- No objective sharing in groups. C'mon, this should be elementary by now, if someone kills a mob / loots a quest item / etc, everyone else in the group should get credit appropriately.


-- Z.

Amen. I'm so sick of people ganking my quest mob. 10 minute respawn on some of this shit is just ridiculous.

Although on the mob front, me and this other guy briefly grouped up to kill some Alpha wolf mob and both got credit for it. I haven't experienced item completion in a group yet, though.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on May 27, 2008, 08:37:54 AM
Amen. I'm so sick of people ganking my quest mob. 10 minute respawn on some of this shit is just ridiculous.

Try going to another instance.  There is usually at least one instance for all the zones I've been to that is pretty empty of players.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 27, 2008, 08:40:56 AM
Although on the mob front, me and this other guy briefly grouped up to kill some Alpha wolf mob and both got credit for it. I haven't experienced item completion in a group yet, though.
You get kill credit so long as you don't die, if you get killed during the big fight you're screwed.  Item completion is fine if it's in a bag, then everyone can loot it, but if it's a glowy thing you have to wait for every single member of the group to get one (or even worse get 20/20)...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on May 27, 2008, 08:49:36 AM
Amen. I'm so sick of people ganking my quest mob. 10 minute respawn on some of this shit is just ridiculous.

Try going to another instance.  There is usually at least one instance for all the zones I've been to that is pretty empty of players.

How do you know if you're in a different instance? Or do I just click the "epic" button I never click?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 27, 2008, 08:54:09 AM
Click the down arrow in the upper left of the mini map to change your instance.  This can also be used to teleport to the nearest rezz pad when you don't feel like running.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Montague on May 27, 2008, 08:54:37 AM
Amen. I'm so sick of people ganking my quest mob. 10 minute respawn on some of this shit is just ridiculous.

Try going to another instance.  There is usually at least one instance for all the zones I've been to that is pretty empty of players.

How do you know if you're in a different instance? Or do I just click the "epic" button I never click?

Edit -  Fuck you Miasma  :grin:

There's an arrow thingy above your minimap you can click to change the instance. (Pro tip: You can also use it as another hearth, since you spawn at the nearest discovered rez point)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on May 27, 2008, 08:56:09 AM
And another thing I don't like...

If you're going to have directional combat (which I think is cool) couldn't you have thought out a better design than putting those directions on hotbars... the same hotbars you need for combos? I tried getting my game pad working with the directional pad, but unfortunately that particular piece of PC equipment has seen much abuse over the years and is currently borked. So, I'm back to using the hotbars and hating it. It would be at least some relief if I could figure out where I set the hotkey for the alternate hot bar. Currently if you hold down "alt" you'll get a hotbar with the number 0 next to it. There's a place in the control set up that shows Alt being coded to first person mouse something or other  but changing it does nothing. I'd use the hell out of it if I could change it to an easier key for me to use. I'm an ESDF user because I'm a touch typist. WASD is for losers.  :awesome_for_real:


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on May 27, 2008, 08:57:26 AM
Click the down arrow in the upper left of the mini map to change your instance.  This can also be used to teleport to the nearest rezz pad when you don't feel like running.

Really? I had no idea...

Thanks!


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 27, 2008, 09:02:55 AM
Although on the mob front, me and this other guy briefly grouped up to kill some Alpha wolf mob and both got credit for it. I haven't experienced item completion in a group yet, though.
You get kill credit so long as you don't die, if you get killed during the big fight you're screwed.  Item completion is fine if it's in a bag, then everyone can loot it, but if it's a glowy thing you have to wait for every single member of the group to get one (or even worse get 20/20)...

Par for the course for MMO's.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 27, 2008, 09:03:49 AM
Signe, I got the guild chat color changed for you.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: rattran on May 27, 2008, 09:12:42 AM
The icons for combos and such are a mess. They need something, um, iconic, so you can easily tell the different attacks from each other.  Right now, I mostly choose them based on where they are on my bar. I have no idea what picture goes with what combo. It gets worse if you try a more compact UI.

Quoting from the other thread. This is becoming a fairly major problem for me as well. Was it intended for older combos to be obsoleted entirely? I mean, the first rank of each action seems fairly straightforward, but successive ones add more flames/blood etc until it's not clear what the hell it's supposed to be.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 27, 2008, 09:26:57 AM
Signe, I got the guild chat color changed for you.

Yeah, well, how many times do you have to take down the server to get GREEN right?!?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 27, 2008, 10:07:15 AM
Two four hour downtimes in one day. Fuck you, Funcom.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Hoax on May 27, 2008, 10:15:12 AM
I'm feeling so smart right now.  I want to like this game.  I know this game is going to be a better game then WAR.  But I knew that I'd face major headache, heartache, rage and burnout if I sub'd at launch.

Don't get me wrong, its killing me that everyone is learning things and getting lewts and shit before I am.  It really is.

I'm just glad that I'm going to build a new computer for my bday (July) then unless f13 hasn't imploded (unlikely) I'll prob buy Conan and check it out either when they open a new server or when I decide to take a month off from EVE while training something like BC5 or AWU5.  I think in the end I'll have much more fun with AoC and give it a fair shake if I can wait until they've had a few months to sort stuff out.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Grand Design on May 27, 2008, 10:22:56 AM
AoC is tons of funs - when I'm playing, I feel guilty that I'm not on Eve being all serious and spaceshippy.

Still, I'm taking it slow to give Funcom some time to fix their game. 





Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Surlyboi on May 27, 2008, 10:38:20 AM
I actually feel guilty while playing AoC too, I'm bagging on EQ2 time.

Then again, the 70-80 grind there sucks, so...hey...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nerf on May 27, 2008, 11:18:14 AM
I don't like that bosses outside of instances really don't drop shit, even epic ones.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Typhon on May 27, 2008, 11:47:54 AM
I don't like that bosses outside of instances really don't drop shit, even epic ones.

I agree, but if the bosses are there for explorers to find (rather then a part of some quest), then they should only have a chance to drop something once in awhile.  I'd rather not have a return to camping.  I'd rather not have a return to exploring an area only to come to a player/group of players that, through words or action, make it clear that this mob (whom you never heard of) is "their" mob and you won't be seeing him in a living capacity at any time during the next 9 hours.

I know it means more data elements to be tracked per character, but I'd really like to see it changed such that you can only see the boss every couple hours (even though it's spawn timer is much quicker then that) - or some variation of that method.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 27, 2008, 11:51:41 AM
If they drop something every once in a while, they'll get camped. If they drop something merely decent all the time, camping won't be worthwhile.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Numtini on May 27, 2008, 02:11:56 PM
Here's something I really don't like. If you have a custom UI, the file numbers have to match or it won't load. No option to ignore the discrepancy.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Sir T on May 27, 2008, 02:51:05 PM
You know what I dislike? At least on my system when you press a movement key the character starts siding then his legs start moving. so for a second you are waterskiing happily along. I only noticed last night and it rapidly started driving me crazy.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Morfiend on May 27, 2008, 03:32:21 PM
I REALLY REALLY dont like that it doesnt show you what zone instance you are currently in. If it does, then I cant find it. For some one who solos a lot its fine, but I always play with my roommate and a friend or two, and we constantly all have to switch servers to meet up.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Threash on May 27, 2008, 05:17:18 PM
I REALLY REALLY dont like that it doesnt show you what zone instance you are currently in. If it does, then I cant find it. For some one who solos a lot its fine, but I always play with my roommate and a friend or two, and we constantly all have to switch servers to meet up.

Its quite simple for all involved to pick one and meet there, it puts everyone at the rez point too.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: sam, an eggplant on May 27, 2008, 05:19:10 PM
I hate the loot system. There's no autoloot, so you need to click the take all button, but you don't want to click the take all button because seemingly every random mob drops a crappy white weapon or piece of armor and your inventory is limited. They need to add stacking vendor loot to mobs like WoW. All weapon/armor drops after level 10 should be green at minimum. I find this really very annoying.

Also what's up with limiting inventory as an advancement reward? That sucks! And yes, WoW did it and it sucks there too.

Also I hate how skills are totally nondescriptive. I play a guardian, and I've got this skill "brutal enraging strike". The description says "The soldier taunts their enemy as they attack to lock them into combat with the soldier. Useful in battle, the actions of an enraged enemy can be predicted and dealt with more easily."

OK, so it taunts. Got that. Does it do extra damage, or just a weapon attack? Should I use it when soloing? Does it give the enemy an attack debuff, or make them more likely to miss? Who knows? That information is simply not available.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: bhodikhan on May 27, 2008, 05:25:39 PM
Yea. A lot of those combos seem to have quite verbose descriptions but no real numbers. To hell with it. I just use the ones that make the mobs scream a lot.  If they die faster then it's a combo I will use.



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Murgos on May 28, 2008, 06:04:08 AM
I hate the loot system. There's no autoloot, so you need to click the take all button, but you don't want to click the take all button because seemingly every random mob drops a crappy white weapon or piece of armor and your inventory is limited.

You can just click on the items you want to keep.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 28, 2008, 06:08:59 AM
I REALLY REALLY dont like that it doesnt show you what zone instance you are currently in. If it does, then I cant find it. For some one who solos a lot its fine, but I always play with my roommate and a friend or two, and we constantly all have to switch servers to meet up.

The one you are in seems to be the one NOT on your list, the ones on the list with a head, or multi-heads is where your peoples are.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: sam, an eggplant on May 28, 2008, 06:19:14 AM
You can just click on the items you want to keep.
I know, that sucks.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Special J on May 28, 2008, 06:25:12 AM
Is anybody locked out of the forums?  I can't access them.  I set my forum name and password in my account, which it accepts, but then gives me a big F-u when I try to log in.

So I leave a message for the support weasels every day, and nothing after the auto-response.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 28, 2008, 06:28:24 AM
Is anybody locked out of the forums?  I can't access them.  I set my forum name and password in my account, which it accepts, but then gives me a big F-u when I try to log in.

So I leave a message for the support weasels every day, and nothing after the auto-response.

Give it an hour or so after setting it up/changing password.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Special J on May 28, 2008, 06:39:47 AM
Yeah, they tell you it takes a while to propagate.  I given it way more than an hour. Several times.  This has been since the weekend.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on May 28, 2008, 06:54:23 AM
When I click that handy dandy instance changing upside down triangle while in an instance, like, Conall's Valley, I'm transported all the way back to the friggin beginning. While, in a normal dungeon I can see that as being a smart thing, in a place like the Valley where I had to run 5 miles to see if I need to change instances at all, it pisses me right the heck off. You never know if the first or last or even the middle instance on the list is going to be the busiest.

Or, maybe, the better complaint is putting a freaking rez stone in the village. That would be swell!

Either way, traveling sucks.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 28, 2008, 06:58:29 AM
When I click that handy dandy instance changing upside down triangle while in an instance, like, Conall's Valley, I'm transported all the way back to the friggin beginning. While, in a normal dungeon I can see that as being a smart thing, in a place like the Valley where I had to run 5 miles to see if I need to change instances at all, it pisses me right the heck off. You never know if the first or last or even the middle instance on the list is going to be the busiest.

Or, maybe, the better complaint is putting a freaking rez stone in the village. That would be swell!

Either way, traveling sucks.

There is one in the village.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on May 28, 2008, 07:14:51 AM
The rezzpads don't show up on the map until you find them.  There are several in the zone, usually one at each quest hub.  Even with them travel in Connal's sucks, go to Khopsef, it's much better.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on May 28, 2008, 07:15:00 AM
 :ye_gods:

 :uhrr:

Guess step 1 in tonight's game play is find that freaking rez stone, then.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: shiznitz on May 28, 2008, 07:18:58 AM
Another gripe: patches reset my video settings - sometimes.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Tarami on May 28, 2008, 07:19:35 AM
As has been suggested, they should just make them work like Diablo 2's waypoints and all would be well. Not very Hyborian though, I admit.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on May 28, 2008, 05:45:57 PM
Another gripe: patches reset my video settings - sometimes.

Me too.  It's very very very very very very very annoying.  VERY!


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on May 28, 2008, 11:11:24 PM
Things I don't like.

This:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2351/2533499324_253951799a_o.jpg)

And shit like this.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 28, 2008, 11:41:22 PM
Fixed as of today.

It now says 2% or .2 bonus or whatever it is. No more weirdness.

.00 Immunity style shit is getting fixed though.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: photek on May 28, 2008, 11:57:07 PM
nemo38 and his Harold of Xolti (http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2025404#2025404)

I don't know why, but I nearly fell out of my chair laughing at that.

--

To schilds post : Awesome. Noticed this on my XP bonus ring. So all the 0,1% and 0,2% were actually 1% / 2% all the time ?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 29, 2008, 12:52:52 AM
Yep.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 29, 2008, 10:19:07 AM
Now that I'm playing a Priest of Mitra, I can honestly say that the group Window is too fucking small. WTB RESIZE PLZ.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Kirth on May 29, 2008, 10:23:57 AM
Now that I'm playing a Priest of Mitra, I can honestly say that the group Window is too fucking small. WTB RESIZE PLZ.

Do PoMs have combat combos? I found moving the combo window near the group window helped direct my eyes there. But since all heals are aoe group heals you don't really need to pay attention to health bars. Oh another tip, there is an option that turns targets target on, creates a little bar next to your target bar. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: rattran on May 29, 2008, 10:57:07 AM
The mirage UI has a bigger group window. You can use that without all the other ui changes if you want. Instructions are in the huge thread in the official forums, or perhaps curse by now.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on May 29, 2008, 12:21:51 PM
Now that I'm playing a Priest of Mitra, I can honestly say that the group Window is too fucking small. WTB RESIZE PLZ.

Do PoMs have combat combos? I found moving the combo window near the group window helped direct my eyes there. But since all heals are aoe group heals you don't really need to pay attention to health bars. Oh another tip, there is an option that turns targets target on, creates a little bar next to your target bar. 

I was thinking the same thing. Unless you just can't see the bars at higher resolutions.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Morfiend on May 29, 2008, 02:03:44 PM
PoMs have spellweaving, so thats a no to combos.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: squirrel on May 29, 2008, 08:56:08 PM
5 minute feedback. I have to quit the game to change characters? lame. Or am I missing something? No "logout" option? Oh and the installer doesn't eject a disc when it needs the next one - leaving me without my audio queue to pay attention whilst I surf on another machine. I know, but in my book that's "polish".

EDIT: But the boobies are good, and there's a slider!


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on May 29, 2008, 09:14:18 PM
You have to 'log out' to get to the char select screen, but in terms of time spent, its probably just about the same as if you were just taken to the char select screen, I bet. Still needs to load the graphics and what not.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Lantyssa on May 30, 2008, 06:42:28 AM
5 minute feedback. I have to quit the game to change characters? lame. Or am I missing something? No "logout" option? Oh and the installer doesn't eject a disc when it needs the next one - leaving me without my audio queue to pay attention whilst I surf on another machine. I know, but in my book that's "polish".

EDIT: But the boobies are good, and there's a slider!
Use /camp.

The boob slider doesn't do much.  Or maybe they're just so freakishly large it isn't apparent.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Dtrain on May 30, 2008, 04:57:26 PM
I swear it seems like more of a sag slider.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on May 30, 2008, 08:27:02 PM
Hrm.  Either the novelty is wearing off after having limited gametime due to RL or I'm just getting burnt out by MMOs but I'm starting to want to log on less and less.  I seem to be past the point where I don't get any new abilities (so my gameplay doesn't change at all as I level), the quests have me running way too much (I'm almost 40 but I"m not even close to having enough money to buy a horse), when I read the feats they feel more like buffs rather than additions to my spell/combo arsenal which doesn't make me excited or interested in spending my feat points, and the game "upgraded" my combo (which is an oxymoron anyway since thecombo upgrades as you level regardless if it's a "I" or "III") but it totally changed how I use the combo (without adding another layer) so I keep missing the combo, which is kind of annoying. 

Honestly, the combo thing is looking kinda meh as I look at the ability list and see what the combos require at high levels.  I mean, the extra buttons you have to press to get to the final combo effect just gets longer and longer with no (seemingly) benefit in between.  They could have put small different effects for each hit (so say, each attack does the final effect but at higher damage/mana drain/whatever) and made the gameplay so much more interesting.

Another thing, I can't believe it but I honestly agree with everyone talking about how powerful they felt.  My HoX just feels boring because I can take out groups of mobs 2 levels higher than me without flinching.  It's so boring and uninteresting.  Sure I could "challenge" myself by taking on higher levels but 1) I don't have any quests for mobs that high and 2) due ot the power scaling it's very much that the difference between 2 and 3 levels higher than me goes from easy mode to complete ass rape.  I'm tempted to make a necro just so I'm not so powerful, but I spawned on the beach and kind of went "I don't really want to do this newbie stuff again right now."

Levels 1-20 had me hoping there were like main quests that you could do and have an ongoing adventure.  It goes from epic rpg to mindless MMO quest grinding.  The only main questline happens once at level 30, then another quest at level 50  :uhrr:  The action rpg feeling is totally gone to me now.

In regards to loot, at first I didn't mind the shit drops but now that I am still using my level 20 weapon at level 37 it's starting to get to me. 

I've gone from loving this game to not wanting to log on in the span of a week....


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Hawkbit on May 30, 2008, 10:41:32 PM
I will totally agree that this game needed a Destiny quest that lasted the whole game.  I think one for each archetype and race would have been perfect, instead of random quests that:

1.  have me running all over god knows where, and
2.  Have no coherent POI grouping.

I think WoW and the little bit I played LotRO spoiled me on how quest hubs are setup.  They were simple and intuitive in both games, and that's a feature I miss in AoC.  I know it's making my leveling take longer than it really should because I'm not mutitasking well.

Luckily I'm having fun with the prospect of helping get the guild city off the ground and maybe getting a keep up for sieges. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on May 30, 2008, 11:08:29 PM
Honestly, the levels in this game may seem like they're taking a long time, but it is, by far - the fastest leveling MMOG I've played. About to hit 40 on another toon and my ranger is 26 and my necro is 13. Once you get to 40 once, it's a cakewalk. WoW to 28 took more than all of my levels combined thus far.

Also, fuck yea Keep siege. i want to control at least one resource node for a Long While in the borderlands.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Der Helm on May 31, 2008, 04:05:08 AM
WoW to 28 took more than all of my levels combined thus far.
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Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Kirth on May 31, 2008, 04:10:02 AM
I'm sorta feeling the same way as KallDrexx, so I won't repeat those concerns.
One thing thats bugging me is level locked feats, I find since level 35 I've just been banking feat points so I can get the next one in the line when I get to the level required for it rather then spread them around. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Trippy on May 31, 2008, 04:27:04 AM
I swear it seems like more of a sag slider.
Yes it does. It looks fine in the CC screen but once you start putting clothes over them it just looks bad.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Hawkbit on May 31, 2008, 05:44:47 AM
One thing thats bugging me is level locked feats, I find since level 35 I've just been banking feat points so I can get the next one in the line when I get to the level required for it rather then spread them around. 

Ok, I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I've got four feat points banked at 38 just waiting for 40.  I thought that was odd...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Threash on May 31, 2008, 08:44:36 AM


In regards to loot, at first I didn't mind the shit drops but now that I am still using my level 20 weapon at level 37 it's starting to get to me. 



Just buy a level 30 vendor weapon or check the ah for something better, why would you rely on stuff you find only.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: photek on May 31, 2008, 09:51:29 AM
Please highlight this huge thing I'm sure everyone loathes: Almost all the feats and class information are just lose uninformative feats which we have to play a quiz around to find out if it's usable or useless. An example can be :

Now : Smash'N'Crush : Increases the combo starter damage done by Cyclone of Steel.

Should be : Smash'N'Crush : Increases the combo starter damage done by Cyclone of Steel by 15/35/45%.

Also the tooltip beneath melee attacks should be changed to show damage range of the attack so it is easier to figure how effective each attack is and if it is worth downranking / does more damage with DW/2H, compare weapons etcetra. Should be simple coding, a calculation based on weapon damage and the ability (just like on spells show damage ranges from XXX-XXX for example).


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Abelian75 on May 31, 2008, 10:53:09 AM
Regarding the skill/feat description things, it'd be cool if there were less misspellings/grammatical errors.  Also, actual errors aside, many of the descriptions are just badly written.  One of the guardian abilities I just got described itself as "another ability that does such and such."  Ability descriptions should not begin with "another."  They should be describing themselves in isolation unless they specifically interact with other abilities.

Also, I feel obliged to call out the HoX feats and ability descriptions in particular as atrociously written.  One of the final feats in one of the trees casts a curse on a target which causes all damage on their allies to also damage the cursed target.  Here is the description:

"Grants a spell that curses both the primary target and any nearby enemies, secondary targets.  These secondary targets then inflict damage on the primary target any time they are hit.  So a general cursed by the spell will be damaged by his nearby men is getting hit."

The first sentence is fucked up.  The last sentence is not only fucked up, it shouldn't even be there at all.  Even if it wasn't grammatically fucked, it sounds like some sniveling little ability trying desperately to explain why it is cool.  "No really, this is totally cool, imagine if it was like this awesome shit was happening!"

There are tons of ability descriptions that read like that.  The end of the Burn to Death description is "The herald grimly laughs at their agonized shrieks."  You don't have to fucking SAY that.  Don't tell me what the fuck my character is feeling when he uses an ability.  Just say what it DOES.

Also, perhaps the description of bear shaman in the character select screen could spell "resurrect" correctly (hint:  not "ressurect").

Yeah, I know you're all probably thinking I'm anal.  I would agree if these were even remotely isolated, but frankly the tooltips are fucking rife with unprofessional writing and flat-out errors.

Oh yeah, don't use "they" in ability/feat descriptions without establishing who the fuck the pronoun is referring to.  "Using their sword as their focus, they stab it into the earth at their feet and..."

I really goddamn wish there was a simple reporting tool for spelling/grammar mistakes in MMOs.  Especially this one.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: photek on May 31, 2008, 11:12:15 AM
Fucking Norwegians. They are horrible at English. At a Funcom presentation here in Oslo the last part was in English. All I kept thinking was how much I wish they hired an American / Brit / English speaking PR guy. I feel at times they try to pull some Paul Barnett-like exaggerations, but with the Norglish dialect and speaking English the way Norwegian sentences are built up it went : "And heeur is this an ANOTHER AKSHUEL mount'en which you can AKSHUALLY klimb. And at the top is this a boss which you can kill with your sword. (They use actually and another too much due to the way we speak Norwegian and we use the word faktisk(actually) or enda en(another) far more and even start sentences with them). This is not even High School grammar and they fail.

Their Game Masters are also terrible at English. From what I've seen and experienced, they don't capitalize nor use full stops so it looks like an IRC chat most of the time. I saw a female GM in Tortage and she was a gigantor, for shits and giggles I shouted "That's a HUUUGE bitch!" and she(he?) whispered me "hehe, yes we game masters are bigger THEN regular players". I so wanted to start an e-war of how a GM should act and speak, but fuck it. I'll let others slaughter their incompetence. Game Masters should be RP-masters.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Teleku on May 31, 2008, 11:26:47 AM
Odd, when I was studying in Japan, many of my classmates were Norwegian exchange students.  They said pretty much everybody in Norway learns English, and all of the ones I knew could speak it very fluently.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: photek on May 31, 2008, 11:36:41 AM
Odd, when I was studying in Japan, many of my classmates were Norwegian exchange students.  They said pretty much everybody in Norway learns English, and all of the ones I knew could speak it very fluently.

We do and everyone can speak it. How well? That's another chapter.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kaeh8FRPANs&feature=related


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Lantyssa on May 31, 2008, 11:40:09 AM
They're also the ones who were allowed to leave the country.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Kirth on May 31, 2008, 11:58:44 AM
Given the state of alot of the game systems, your lucky there a tooltips at all.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on May 31, 2008, 01:04:56 PM
Just buy a level 30 vendor weapon or check the ah for something better, why would you rely on stuff you find only.

A few reasons.

1) The vendors only seem to offer weapons every 10 levels, so instead of 1 weapon for 20 levels it's 2, woopdie doo.

2) The level 30 vendor weapon offers like 3 dps more than the level 20 item, and the vendor weapon doesn't have the 2 str and dex that my level 20 has.  THis is further complicated by teh fact that I don't know what the difference it would be at. 

3) Honestly, I didn't even think about buying a vendor weapon until you said that.  The reason is because every time I go out my inventory seems to immediately fill up with utter shit that is a 100x downgrade from my current weapon.  I'm not wanting an omguber upgrade every 10 minutes, I'd be happy enough if I could get either items with similar but different stats (so I could, you know min/max and have different weapons for different things) or even if the weapons were exactly the same but looked different, so I could min/max my character's appearance.  Either one is fine, but god damn give me one of these.  I'd rather they just up the money from loot and stopped dropping utter junk.

This applies for all items, not just weapons.  Right now, when you get a good item everyone who has completed that quest in the past 5-10 levels has that item because getting usable items that are upgrades (or similar to the current item) is so rare.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: photek on May 31, 2008, 01:21:51 PM
If you need a great weapon from lvl 31 to 40ish there is a blue sword that drops from the Ymirish Destroyers / Sorcerers (the northeast area in Conalls Valley). It will drop fairly often from them, and they are great XP, find two more guys and do all quests there and raid through the place 2-3 times. 3-4 levels just there.

EDIT : Two-handed sword.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Rasix on May 31, 2008, 01:39:48 PM
Have you tried looking at a trader? They have some sort of rudimentary auction system in place.  I looked up 2HB weapons last night and a number of them were listed. 

And yah, I'm having problems upgrading (armor mostly).  I have no idea what degree the different stats actually affect you.  :|

Edit: Oops, AH was already suggested. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Tale on May 31, 2008, 02:14:05 PM
Honestly, the levels in this game may seem like they're taking a long time, but it is, by far - the fastest leveling MMOG I've played. About to hit 40 on another toon and my ranger is 26 and my necro is 13. Once you get to 40 once, it's a cakewalk. WoW to 28 took more than all of my levels combined thus far.

It may be faster, but it's a similar pattern to AO - more levels than other games, very fast at first, slowing up at the high end.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Xanthippe on May 31, 2008, 09:08:37 PM
And yah, I'm having problems upgrading (armor mostly).  I have no idea what degree the different stats actually affect you.  :|

I'm considering going naked to see if there's much of a difference between 23 naked and 23 with armor.

I have no idea what the numbers mean if anything at all.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: apocrypha on May 31, 2008, 10:14:30 PM
OK I have a lot of things I'm not liking but this is the one that's just made me log out (again) to go play something else:

Respawn rates. They're always wrong! In the Tortage nighttime quest "dungeons" they're too fast - one death and you have to clear every single damn soldier all over again. But in the areas like White Sands and the Underhalls they're far, far too low. Case in point, I just woke up at 6am and logged on, went into the Underhalls and checked how many instances there were. Only 2, so it can't be that busy (it's 6am, right?). Not a single mob. Nothing. Took me over 5 minutes to find ONE Red Hand dude and I need to kill FIFTY of them. Whoopee.

Got one character to 38 so far and pretty much every single quest I've done I've had to compete with other people for the quest mobs or items. With all this instancing going on why is this the case? It feels like a single player game except there's a load of arseholes around killing the mobs I want. Waiting for respawns and struggling for mobs is not fun.

I know it's early days but this is frustrating me massively and it doesn't feel like it should be happening this much. It only takes one or two people to completely clear out a fairly large area for what feels like a fairly long time. Very, very frustrating, and being frustrated for no good reason makes me go "meh, time for summat else".

Edit: small update to this... it's bad bad bad quest design mostly at fault. Example: "Red Hand Death" quest, get 20 scorpion and 20 snake poisons. OK, I go to the cave where the snakes & scorpions are and there's nobody else there, yay! And every single kill = 1 quest item, no idiotic rare drop rates, yay again! Except I clear the *entire* cave, every single damn thing and get slightly under half the drops I need to complete the quest. WTF? Either the map designers aren't talking to the quest writers or they're they same person and they're an idiot!


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 01, 2008, 01:27:16 AM
The new itemization of Sanctum hit recently. Don't know when, last patch I assume.

Amazing equipment. All sorts, cloth to heavy, knives to two-handed swords. All bosses drop 2-3 blue items, every time. And it's all fucking awesome.

Officially, when they want to itemize, it's amazing. AMAZING.

Also, unique art. My new breastplate is real and it's spectacular.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Velorath on June 01, 2008, 03:10:47 AM
Honestly, the levels in this game may seem like they're taking a long time, but it is, by far - the fastest leveling MMOG I've played. About to hit 40 on another toon and my ranger is 26 and my necro is 13. Once you get to 40 once, it's a cakewalk. WoW to 28 took more than all of my levels combined thus far.

There have been a couple levels here and there that have dragged because I burned through the quests a little too fast. 40-45 in the Field of the Dead has been a breeze though.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on June 01, 2008, 05:34:29 AM
Because itemization isn't important to have ready at release apparently:

http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=49917

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We know right now people are feeling like all armor in Age of Conan is the same and brown. I assure you this is not the case, for along time now we have had a "GM area" where we spawned lots of NPC's that had all sorts of armor appearances so we could tell when art was completed. We have one of these for armor, weapons, and social clothing. Hundreds upon hundreds of appearances.

Anyway to cut to the chase I took your guys concerns and shot an email to Ole Herbjornsen our Lead Designer to ask about Itemization. Ole came back with some very encouraging news. They are going to put blue loot on bosses in the outdoor playfields now and not only on bosses in instances. In addition 3 sets of epic armours for each class (for a total of 36) will allow the item designers to move more of the unique stuff down to lower tiers and over from purple and blue towards green.

The gfx artists will also produce a lot of extra weapons which will further increase the visual variety. He expects these things to be coming into the game within the next week or two.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 01, 2008, 06:26:35 AM
I just started my Tempest of Set.

The lightning tree is the most imbalanced thing I've ever seen on a priest in any game. How design even came up with that just staggers my brain. I'm not even level 10 and just from looking at the tree I know I'm going to be a walking god. Should have seen if the name Imhotep was available.

Point being,  :ye_gods: is this game unbalanced for PVP. Why anyone would even play on a PVP server with the state of PoM, Ranger, and ToS is beyond me. Just altogether stupid.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Threash on June 01, 2008, 07:01:42 AM


Point being,  :ye_gods: is this game unbalanced for PVP. Why anyone would even play on a PVP server with the state of PoM, Ranger, and ToS is beyond me. Just altogether stupid.

Barb and  :pedobear: shaman are also extremely op, in fact most classes are.  Assassins and the caster classes need help in pvp, everyone else does just fine.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Xanthippe on June 01, 2008, 10:19:40 AM


Point being,  :ye_gods: is this game unbalanced for PVP. Why anyone would even play on a PVP server with the state of PoM, Ranger, and ToS is beyond me. Just altogether stupid.

Barb and  :pedobear: shaman are also extremely op, in fact most classes are.  Assassins and the caster classes need help in pvp, everyone else does just fine.

I'm a bear shaman, level 24.  When does the OP part start?  I've just started feeling balanced after feeling weak to 20.  And 8 to 14 is absolutely broken.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Threash on June 01, 2008, 10:54:00 AM


Point being,  :ye_gods: is this game unbalanced for PVP. Why anyone would even play on a PVP server with the state of PoM, Ranger, and ToS is beyond me. Just altogether stupid.

Barb and  :pedobear: shaman are also extremely op, in fact most classes are.  Assassins and the caster classes need help in pvp, everyone else does just fine.

I'm a bear shaman, level 24.  When does the OP part start?  I've just started feeling balanced after feeling weak to 20.  And 8 to 14 is absolutely broken.

Towards the end, they are damn near unkillable one on one at high levels.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Rasix on June 01, 2008, 11:16:26 AM
Once I've gotten the hang of my bear shaman, he's gotten pretty crazy.  Not some of the ridiculousness that schild has said the PoM can do, but the character is pretty damn hard to kill and can fight for forever.  I've gone from a class that barely can kill a 2 pull(and lost on occasion), to a class that can take 3 or 4 on at once, with continual adds.  I ended a +1 boss fight that nearly killed a ranger at full health/mana/stam.

Some advice:

1) Spam blood flow. 
2) Get the 3 point regen talent in the Wrath tree.  I have it on constantly.  I don't know if this is wise, as it ups the damage I'm taking, but I've got an unlimited stam pool while it's going.
3) Your butter move is Crush Armor.  Try to lead with something that hits high so they adjust their shields there. An unprotected Crush Armor is going to wreck someone.
4) You have a knock back and a stun.  If stuff starts going downhill, use them.
5) Spam blood flow.  If you've got some points in the spirit line, you can spam up the damage add before a tough fight.
6) Start working toward Empowered Renewal.  I don't have it yet, but it's +50% damage on the hit that triggers renewal. That'll set up some nice alpha strikes with Crush Armor.
7) Turn off auto facing and make sure your combos and regular swings are hitting everyone in an arc.  If you're not, reposition yourself (while spamming bloodflow).
8) Since you're likely in Connarch, close to melee range on archer mobs.  They fucking hurt, but apparently they forgot to pick up a sword on the way to the battlefield.

Once your dots start scaling better (and I just got a new level of blood flow), you're going to be near impossible to kill unless you get knocked back/stunned and then unloaded on.

My one real gripe with the class is the number of attacks to trigger some of the combos (can be annoying) and the fact that the class is 2HB only.  I like the edge weapon fatalities better.  Also, it's a very active class.  You're constantly casting and triggering combos.  The UI really gets in the way with this.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: trias_e on June 01, 2008, 11:54:31 AM
As a bear shaman, I agree with everything you said.  I feel OP at level 25 and destroy everything.  Level 29 boss, no problem, 3 level 26 mobs, sure why not.

I'm 100% in spirit and empowered renewal+crush armor is just sick, 1 shotting equal level mobs basically.  I spam blood flow like I need it to breathe.  I never run out of mana, stamina is my only concern.  I do use stamina pots fairly often.  I am thinking about starting down the wrath tree to get the regen talent.  It seems like the general talents are basically crap, but there is one down there that reduces the cooldown of blood flow from 3 seconds to 1 second which might be nice...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Kirth on June 01, 2008, 12:05:59 PM
As a bear shaman, I agree with everything you said.  I feel OP at level 25 and destroy everything.  Level 29 boss, no problem, 3 level 26 mobs, sure why not.

I'm 100% in spirit and empowered renewal+crush armor is just sick, 1 shotting equal level mobs basically.  I spam blood flow like I need it to breathe.  I never run out of mana, stamina is my only concern.  I do use stamina pots fairly often.  I am thinking about starting down the wrath tree to get the regen talent.  It seems like the general talents are basically crap, but there is one down there that reduces the cooldown of blood flow from 3 seconds to 1 second which might be nice...

My build at 53:
http://feats.goonheim.com/bearshaman#t0a5b5d3t1a5c5e5g3h3i3k1l1m3n1p5t2

What I think I'll go for at 80:
http://feats.goonheim.com/bearshaman#t0a5b5d3e5h5i1k1l2q3s5t1a5c5e5g3h3i3k1l1m3n1p5s5u3w1t2


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Triforcer on June 01, 2008, 01:11:39 PM
NIPPLE ALERT!

The prospecting trainer in Purple Lotus Swamp village is completely topless.  Did this get patched back in or something?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 01, 2008, 01:23:53 PM
Was always topless.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Numtini on June 01, 2008, 03:09:48 PM
No untamed regeneration on your bs? Everyone swears its the best thing in the world.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Kirth on June 01, 2008, 03:58:48 PM
No untamed regeneration on your bs? Everyone swears its the best thing in the world.
Nope.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Rasix on June 01, 2008, 04:11:30 PM
No untamed regeneration on your bs? Everyone swears its the best thing in the world.

I think you can get by without it.  You'll be having more problems with stam regen perhaps, but you'll be taking less damage across the board.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on June 01, 2008, 05:32:45 PM
Another thing I hate.  Travel times.  I have yet to go to my guild's city because it is so out of the way of everything else in the game it's retarded.  Hell today I had to run back and forth to and from Fields of the Dead and it pissed me off.  The fact that even though I am 43 and am still about 2.5 gold away from getting a mount doesn't help me annoyance.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 01, 2008, 05:33:43 PM
I imagine you'll be able to hearth to a built guild city. I can't see that not being a skill you get from building the city itself.

I hope so?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on June 01, 2008, 05:38:24 PM
I imagine you'll be able to hearth to a built guild city. I can't see that not being a skill you get from building the city itself.

I hope so?

Haven't heard of a way.  Even if I can change my bind point to the guild city, right now why would I?  The cities aren't done (no npcs are in our buildings) and again, it's so far out of the way from where I would be leveling that I see no benefit in going there.  It would have to be a totally separate ability besides our current "port to bind" ability.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Kirth on June 01, 2008, 05:57:27 PM
Another thing I hate.  Travel times.  I have yet to go to my guild's city because it is so out of the way of everything else in the game it's retarded.  Hell today I had to run back and forth to and from Fields of the Dead and it pissed me off.  The fact that even though I am 43 and am still about 2.5 gold away from getting a mount doesn't help me annoyance.

I bind where I quest (right now the eligwhatever mountains) and death hop across zones when I want to visit the trader or gathering zone.

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I think you can get by without it.  You'll be having more problems with stam regen perhaps, but you'll be taking less damage across the board.

With level 50 food/drink and a fatality every 4th or 5th mob I don't have stam regen problems.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Murgos on June 01, 2008, 05:57:44 PM
The big finishing moves can take to long to play out, a couple of times I've been in a scrum where I end up getting killed by the last mob who I would have been able to beat if I hadn't spent 10 seconds on finishing moves.  Combat goes fast and a few seconds is all the difference in the world.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on June 01, 2008, 06:08:51 PM
I bind where I quest (right now the eligwhatever mountains) and death hop across zones when I want to visit the trader or gathering zone.

How do you bind anyways?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Montague on June 01, 2008, 06:27:24 PM
I bind where I quest (right now the eligwhatever mountains) and death hop across zones when I want to visit the trader or gathering zone.

How do you bind anyways?

Find a Wayfarer of Asura and talk to her. They're in most of the big quest hubs or cities, and show up as a grey dot on your minimap.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: apocrypha on June 01, 2008, 10:07:26 PM
Find a Wayfarer of Asura and talk to her. They're in most of the big quest hubs or cities, and show up as a grey dot on your minimap.

They do? Cool, that'll save me all the running about trying to find them!

On a related note does anyone know how to turn off the quest objectives overlay on the minimap? The option in the, er, options, does nothing for me :(


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Xuri on June 01, 2008, 11:37:12 PM
There's an option for turning off quest objectives on the minimap in the same menu as where you select instances. Click the small downwards-pointing triangle on the top-left side of the minimap, and you should see a dropdown-menu with two options - one of them turns off quest objectives on the map.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: apocrypha on June 02, 2008, 01:16:07 AM
Fantastic, thanks. I can now actually *see* the wayfarer dots on the map :D


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: CharlieMopps on June 02, 2008, 05:40:54 AM
Thing I hate:
Tortage (sp?) The entire starter city has to go. Most of the people I know that started, thought that was the whole game... thought it was like Guildwars or something.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 02, 2008, 05:41:26 AM
Thing I hate:
Tortage (sp?) The entire starter city has to go. Most of the people I know that started, thought that was the whole game... thought it was like Guildwars or something.

What?

I'm sorry. This needs an explanation.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on June 02, 2008, 05:47:28 AM
I rather like Tortage...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on June 02, 2008, 05:49:07 AM
I see some people on the official forums complaining about Tortage too and I really don't get it.  I thought Tortage was great.  It had nice zones, a good storyline, you could go play solo when tired of the daytime.  All the lowbies are together answering questions and grouping together.  I could see it getting tiresome on the third alt but you can blow through it pretty fast anyways.

If you didn't like Tortage you might as well just stop playing now really.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 02, 2008, 05:52:04 AM
If you didn't like Tortage you might as well just stop playing now really.

Seriously. I've gone through it 3 times already. And will go through it twice more to finish my necro and start a tank once it gets itemized.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Special J on June 02, 2008, 06:05:56 AM
Tortage might get tired doing over and over, but on the first run through it is the best newbie zone I've played in any MMOG.

Finally got to Purple Lotus Swamp and after 30 minutes or so I absolutely hate that zone.  Can't see a damn thing and running around gathering is tedious.  Never did much like swamp zones though.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on June 02, 2008, 06:17:09 AM
You can turn up your gamma and turn the grass view distance down to zero to make it easier.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Xanthippe on June 02, 2008, 06:20:21 AM
I hate night.  I can't see anything.  It's a real hindrance.  I wish that either they add a light source (player torch) or brighten it up a little.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on June 02, 2008, 06:46:58 AM
Agreed on the torch.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 02, 2008, 06:47:32 AM
I can't see them NOT implementing a player centered light source sooner rather than later.

It feels like an oversight at the moment.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: CharlieMopps on June 02, 2008, 07:26:53 AM
Thing I hate:
Tortage (sp?) The entire starter city has to go. Most of the people I know that started, thought that was the whole game... thought it was like Guildwars or something.

What?

I'm sorry. This needs an explanation.

There is absolutely no explanation in-game that you are in a newbie zone. On top of that, you spend more time there, than in any other noob zone I've ever seen. Like all noob zones, it feels small... cramped... controlled... which is all ok, IF you know you're in a starter zone. I knew I was, because I had played a bit in beta and had friends in beta. But everyone I know that bought the game after release had no idea it was a starter zone until I TOLD them it was. I had someone say to me: "This feels just like Guildwars" and he was right. You've got 1 town... with maybe a few mobs outside it. Your first quest takes you into an instance, by yourself, at night... None of this is really how the rest of the game is played.

The silver-sands (or whatever its called) is nice, but its location kind of hides it. Granted we should all be able to figure this stuff out, but being a newbie zone imo all of it should be glaringly apparent.
"WELCOME TO THE TRAINING ZONE!"
"Once your training is complete you will move on to your home city!"
every time you log in. etc...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 02, 2008, 07:28:39 AM
What do you mean?

The first person you talk to in the tavern gives you the option of skipping tortage and the destiny quest.

Also, the moment you have to be hit over the head with a "Monsters this way" sign (and what you're offering is comparable), then all immersion is broken and we're in shittown.

And the night time quests completely say "Night - Solo" and the other option is "Day - Multiplayer."

They tried as hard as they could to NOT have a MONSTERS sign. But I guess if confusion is possible, someone will be confused. No matter how Not confusing it is.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Trippy on June 02, 2008, 07:32:03 AM
What do you mean?

The first person you talk to in the tavern gives you the option of skipping tortage and the destiny quest.
It's not clear what that means, though, if you are first time player.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on June 02, 2008, 07:34:56 AM
What do you mean?

The first person you talk to in the tavern gives you the option of skipping tortage and the destiny quest.
It's not clear what that means, though, if you are first time player.


It is if you click on it, big hugs disclaimer in red text asking you "Really?". At least, i thought it was rather clear.

I can't see them NOT implementing a player centered light source sooner rather than later.

It feels like an oversight at the moment.

They should make it take and off hand =)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Trippy on June 02, 2008, 07:38:18 AM
By "what that means" I meant what are the ramifications for skipping Tortage.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: CharlieMopps on June 02, 2008, 07:39:18 AM
I'm talking about keeping players past the first 30 days... or even past the 1st 30min.
Players reading quest text? lol

I personally can forgive lack of immersion on noob island. It's to be expected.
Locking a new player into a zone that long is silly. I mean, 19 levels of a noob area? That's a tad much.
I was listening to people complain in /OOC about wanting to leave the entire time I was there. If it's that prevalent a problem they need to make an easy out.

Don't get me wrong, I like the game. I'm just afraid they are loosing people that aren't playing for more than an hour before they ebay their CD key.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 02, 2008, 07:40:38 AM
I didn't read 99% of the quest text until the noble district.

Once I got to the noble district, for whatever reason, I read all the quests. Now I read Every Single One of them.

Fuck did they write it well.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on June 02, 2008, 07:44:51 AM
By "what that means" I meant what are the ramifications for skipping Tortage.


If i recall correctly, it tells you in that red text when it asks "Really?". Been a bit since i left, i know i read it and was like..."uh, never mind then".

All in all, you have the option of skipping it, and still leveling up in the overland (day) quests.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on June 02, 2008, 07:47:56 AM
You know you're scraping the bottom of the complaint barrel if a game has Schild reading MMORPG quest text :P

Edit: not that AoC doesn't have flaws, but Tortage and newbie quests are not it.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Trippy on June 02, 2008, 07:53:43 AM
Yes I like the quest text in Tortage too. However one of the things that bugs me about the game is that there's no faction/alignment system in the game (at least in the newbie zone which I'm still in) but the Tortage quests, if you do them all, are constantly bouncing between quests of "good" (e.g. the entire Resistance storyline) and "evil" (or at least amoral).


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 02, 2008, 07:54:41 AM
Morality doesn't exist in Hyboria. It's all grey. It's not that obvious in the game, but it is in the books.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on June 02, 2008, 08:03:45 AM
I like that there's no ALL SEEING EYE that knows if you've been offending Faction_A that then goes to inform Joe_Guard_002 at the gates of Faction A that you need to be killed.

On the other hand, it would be of interest to provide slightly different outcomes to quests depending on what approach you take. Nothing that would affect your whole toon in the larger game, but just within a particular quest. It'd be neato.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: CharlieMopps on June 02, 2008, 09:37:59 AM
I like that there's no ALL SEEING EYE that knows if you've been offending Faction_A that then goes to inform Joe_Guard_002 at the gates of Faction A that you need to be killed.


Dude, it was MMPOG gold when I went to the Plane of Growth for the first time in EQ1, we killed 1 mob before the entire raid fell appart... so I recalled back to my Bind point in Kelethin... and to my great surprise, killing a single mob in the plane of growth put me at max negative faction for the entire city. Luckly I wasn't bound near a guard. As irritating as that was, it was a 'unique experiance' and made me be a lot more cautious about which raids I went on. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Numtini on June 02, 2008, 04:30:33 PM
Well, you can no longer switch instances unless you're already next to the spawn point. Someone was looking for people for a group, would have been my first, and I couldn't switch to their instance without running across the zone. And then I found myself in Paragon City in a cape and everything there worked.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on June 02, 2008, 04:59:48 PM
Well, you can no longer switch instances unless you're already next to the spawn point. Someone was looking for people for a group, would have been my first, and I couldn't switch to their instance without running across the zone. And then I found myself in Paragon City in a cape and everything there worked.

Yeah holy crap that thing is pissing me off.  There's nothing worse than running to a camp to find out there are 4 people camping it and having to run 10+ minutes just so you can change instances and run back....


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: CharlieMopps on June 03, 2008, 04:28:54 AM
Yea, I do find it unfortunate that they have chosen the path of "Lets make them run arround pointlessly" as a way to delay leveling rather than simply making the content for challenging.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Numtini on June 03, 2008, 05:01:15 AM
I felt having to run around was already the largest method of slowing progress without having to run to a spawn point in order to get a group.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on June 03, 2008, 05:48:17 AM
- This must be five yards from a rezz pad to switch instances is pissing me off.
- More upset about the most important changes like that not being put in the patch notes.
- Went to that instance Iridian Ravine (or whatever) in Potain.  Tried to kill two bosses but they kept glitching and running away.  One was named "Bowmaster so-and-so", he was not an archer and had no bow.  The other was "Blademaster so-and-so", he did not have a sword.  Both the bowmaster and the blademaster tried to punch us to death.  Come on guys, just come on.
- I don't see the point of spellweaving, it looks cool but that's about it.
- The game past forty is quite simply only half finished.
- Resource zones need more fucking electrum.

Edit: I forgot.  For some obscene reason you can't mail tradeskill resources.  That's bullshit.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Abelian75 on June 03, 2008, 06:05:59 AM
Edit: I forgot.  For some obscene reason you can't mail tradeskill resources.  That's bullshit.

Ah, I encountered this problem last night.  Glad it isn't just me.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Bzalthek on June 03, 2008, 07:38:18 AM
- Resource zones need more fucking electrum.

There are at least 6 Electrum nodes in the Purple Lotus Swamp.  I haven't bothered mapping any of the other resource zones.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: tmp on June 03, 2008, 04:47:10 PM
It seems access to game forums no longer requires having an account, so that addresses my complaint.

best thread of the moment: the Great Boob Nerf of 2008, apparently  :awesome_for_real:

http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=50635


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Sir T on June 03, 2008, 04:57:30 PM
I finished tortage a couple of nights ago and I have had no urge to log back in. Tortage was atmospheric and some degree of fun, but when I was just leveling I rapidly got sick of running back and forth to complete quests. With tortage over and no destiny quest I have no interest anymore.

I guess thats the pint you need to have people and make friends.I did group with a couple of guys and it was fun, but it rapidly turned into "wait for the bimbo to respawn and hope we get her before the other person. oh theres 3 of us. oh wel lets wait... hey you 2 ran ahead to clear the corridor and got too far away and she despawned. so we have to wait again. and do it twice before we figure out whats wrong (Actually _I_ figured it out... with my phsychic abilities.)

So yeah. I'll pobably be canceling my account. Good game, pity my comuter only bearly runs it and the annoying quest flaws...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: AcidCat on June 04, 2008, 07:24:28 AM
Conall's Valley is the absolute worst for pointless back-and-forth running. I am totally skipping that place on my next characters.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on June 04, 2008, 07:42:39 AM
Conall's Valley is the absolute worst for pointless back-and-forth running. I am totally skipping that place on my next characters.

The providence in kami is better, mostly because anywhere you want to go is a straight walk, not a bunch of switch backs. However, the valley is very pretty and well done..nice feeling to it.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Xanthippe on June 04, 2008, 07:55:29 AM
Conall's Valley is the absolute worst for pointless back-and-forth running. I am totally skipping that place on my next characters.

I just went up as high as I could and jumped to death teleport around.

But yeah - poor design in that there's way too much back and forth.

And also - yesterday I could not get the stupid res pads to switch instances.  I had to leave zone and come back instead. 



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: shiznitz on June 04, 2008, 08:26:20 AM
This may not be a "think I don't like" but I have no idea what the death penatly is.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Murgos on June 04, 2008, 08:52:20 AM
This may not be a "think I don't like" but I have no idea what the death penatly is.

There isn't much of one.  Hopefully they relent and go back to the change instance at any time system.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on June 04, 2008, 08:53:30 AM
When you die you get a debuff (icon on the bottom left of your screen that looks like a demon skull). It lasts 25 min or when you get back to your tombstone and click on it, whichever comes first. Aside from that, no penalty that I know of.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: bhodikhan on June 04, 2008, 08:54:30 AM
Just look at the rez pads to switch instances like the train stations in COH. You couldn't switch instances anywhere in the zone. Had to run/jump/fly to the station.



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: bhodikhan on June 04, 2008, 08:56:04 AM
When you die you get a debuff (icon on the bottom left of your screen that looks like a demon skull). It lasts 25 min or when you get back to your tombstone and click on it, whichever comes first. Aside from that, no penalty that I know of.

What's even worse is that if you logoff and go to play the next day it's still on the timer. It doesn't count down while you're offline.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on June 04, 2008, 08:56:50 AM
Considering it is such a weak penalty, I'm not exactly storming the Funcom forums about that, know what I mean?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: shiznitz on June 04, 2008, 09:10:26 AM
I had no idea I even left a tombstone, but I have only died 3 times.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Alkiera on June 04, 2008, 10:56:26 AM
I had no idea I even left a tombstone, but I have only died 3 times.

This may only occur at higher level.  I've only tied twice or so, and don't recall seeing a tombstone.  Or a debuff, for that matter.  But my highest character is only 14.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 04, 2008, 11:01:23 AM
Starts happening at level 10.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Alkiera on June 04, 2008, 11:17:06 AM
That might explain it.  I died once in the first volcano instance, and the second time running back from the mushroom collection area on White Sands isle.  I may have been 10 at that point, I forget where in there I hit it.  I was doing daytime missions to level until I could get the next night quest.  Probably because I didn't kill the [BOSS] slaver guy at the top of the volcano mission.

Having to do the same thing now, 13 to 15.

Can't say there's a lack of quests in Tortage.  Dear lord, there's ! EVERYWHERE during the day.  Though I need to find better shops.  The only ones I've seen just sell food.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: apocrypha on June 04, 2008, 11:20:49 AM
The death debuff is absolutely tiny though, really not worth wasting time over trying to get your tombstone IMO, unless it's really easy or you're going that way anyway.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 04, 2008, 11:33:00 AM
As I've said it before.

If you don't have 3 tombstones all the time once you hit level 10, you're doing it wrong.

And by wrong, I mean you're traveling inefficiently.

And therefore leveling slowly.

As such, doing it wrong.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: bhodikhan on June 04, 2008, 11:34:46 AM
The death debuff is absolutely tiny though, really not worth wasting time over trying to get your tombstone IMO, unless it's really easy or you're going that way anyway.

It does stack from what I've seen. Once you stack about 5 of them that's a 10% reduction in damage.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Lantyssa on June 04, 2008, 11:36:25 AM
Can't say there's a lack of quests in Tortage.  Dear lord, there's ! EVERYWHERE during the day.  Though I need to find better shops.  The only ones I've seen just sell food.
There are armor and weapon shopkeeps just across from the Thirsty Dog, next to Delia, curse her Set-besotted soul.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Morfiend on June 04, 2008, 11:51:21 AM
What do you mean?

The first person you talk to in the tavern gives you the option of skipping tortage and the destiny quest.

That is the option to skip that "step" of the destiny quest, you know, cause some of them have bugs that stop you from being able to complete them. It doesnt make you level 20 and able to bypass Tortage, it just means you have to do more day time quests.

I would LOVE the ability to skip Tortage and go straight to level 20. Having done Tortage 4.5 times now, I really dont want to do it again. It especially sucks because classes dont really start to feel different until level 6 minimum. Yeah, thats only like 30 to 45 minutes, but still.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on June 04, 2008, 04:28:28 PM
so wow really.....

I go to the field of the dead and get literally 3 quests to 15 kill wolves (not werewolves, not manbearpigs, just regular wolves) in 3 different spots.  Then I go kill the wolves, hand in the quests and literally get another quest to kill another 15 wolves in another part of the zone.  At that point I logged off...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 04, 2008, 04:40:59 PM
so wow really.....

I go to the field of the dead and get literally 3 quests to 15 kill wolves (not werewolves, not manbearpigs, just regular wolves) in 3 different spots.  Then I go kill the wolves, hand in the quests and literally get another quest to kill another 15 wolves in another part of the zone.  At that point I logged off...

Those are repeatable hunting quests.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on June 04, 2008, 06:24:52 PM
Those are repeatable hunting quests.

Maybe they were but all 4 quests I had were for different spots.

And if repeatable grinding quests is how they expect me to level then I'm gone.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nerf on June 04, 2008, 06:26:56 PM
The repeatable grinding quests are off of the wanted posters, there are multiple quest hubs in FotD though, and one of the quests from the first group at the zone in sends you to the next (first, really) hub.

So, you're doing it wrong.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: KallDrexx on June 04, 2008, 06:29:50 PM
The repeatable grinding quests are off of the wanted posters, there are multiple quest hubs in FotD though, and one of the quests from the first group at the zone in sends you to the next (first, really) hub.

So, you're doing it wrong.

UM, these are from npcs not from wanted posters.  I haven't gotten one quest from a wanted poster yet.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: rattran on June 05, 2008, 07:03:39 AM
There is a series of quests which have you killing wolves in different spots. It's all part of the anti-werewolf line. It builds to a final battle I can't recall.

Reading quest text is hard.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Rasix on June 05, 2008, 09:48:58 AM
I really wish there was a form of mass transit that didn't involve me jumping off a cliff, drowning myself, or running into a group of mobs and hitting the dance button.

They really need to fix the spawn times.  Yes, you can switch instances, but 10 minutes between some of these mobs popping is a bit ridiculous.  Especially when a lot of quests require you to take out a boss or mini-boss (especially in Connal's Valley).



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on June 05, 2008, 09:50:51 AM
I really wish there was a form of mass transit that didn't involve me jumping off a cliff, drowning myself, or running into a group of mobs and hitting the dance button.

They really need to fix the spawn times.  Yes, you can switch instances, but 10 minutes between some of these mobs popping is a bit ridiculous.  Especially when a lot of quests require you to take out a boss or mini-boss (especially in Connal's Valley).
There is a quest in Field of the Dead that wants you to kill something like twelve named bosses.  I deleted it as soon as I saw all the Xs.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Bzalthek on June 05, 2008, 10:24:55 AM
That quest is for the Haunted Forest, and that chain gave me an entire level and is solo-able.  The reward is a selection of pretty nice weapons if I remember correctly.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on June 05, 2008, 10:30:06 AM
I'm sure it is soloable but after standing around for at least thirty minutes waiting for just four of the damn fragment bosses I wasn't about to do twelve.

Quick tip:  The boss for the fourth fragment is not actually where the X is on the map, he spawns in the little pit where the minions are digging up skeletons in that same camp.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: vex on June 06, 2008, 01:41:56 PM
I don't know if this is a don't like or just a general bitch.  Why do my helmets come with blond hair and braids?  The first time I just pretended it was the scalp of the guy I took it off of but I can only do that so many times.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Morfiend on June 06, 2008, 02:03:45 PM
I don't know if this is a don't like or just a general bitch.  Why do my helmets come with blond hair and braids?  The first time I just pretended it was the scalp of the guy I took it off of but I can only do that so many times.

Thats odd. It doesnt happen to me. My both my guys are bald, and when wearing helmets they are still bald.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on June 06, 2008, 04:21:40 PM
Happens to me with the medium armor newbie helm. All of a suden my nubian black haired ToS tuns into fookin' Brunhilda.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: vex on June 07, 2008, 02:40:39 AM
I've had it on medium and heavy armor.

(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6843/hat1ls3.jpg)

(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/8670/hat2rs4.jpg)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: tmp on June 07, 2008, 06:28:16 AM
I've had it on medium and heavy armor.
It's pretty common to have either hair modelled as part of the helmet or not at all, to avoid clipping issues with different hairstyles (i believe ex-SWG players are intimately familiar with the hat/hair subject) ... would guess that hair is supposed to take whatever colour your character has selected, but it's bugged.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Velorath on June 08, 2008, 02:16:08 AM
Canceled my sub for now.  Waiting for quest mobs and such to spawn only to have someone else attack them first is the kind of thing that didn't need to be brought back into MMO's.  I could tolerate it back when it was really easy to switch instances, but now it makes some dungeons pretty much unplayable.

Game never really felt much like Conan to me anyway.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Threash on June 08, 2008, 02:55:28 AM
They REALLY need to up the distance you cnan fall without taking dmg and snaring yourself, right now its like a foot.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: AcidCat on June 09, 2008, 07:30:31 PM
I don't like that turning on grass gives me costs me about 20 fps. The world looks a lot nicer with grass but the performance hit isn't worth it.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on June 10, 2008, 06:01:38 AM
They REALLY need to up the distance you cnan fall without taking dmg and snaring yourself, right now its like a foot.

I agree.  I've been bitching about this since beta because I fall off of things a LOT.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Numtini on June 10, 2008, 04:11:56 PM
They changed from a very localized regional ooc to a nation wide regional apparently. It's all misogyny and homophobia all the time. Unfortunately, it's also the only way to find a group. I logged out in disgust. Compared to this, Barrens chat deserves the Nobel Prize. I firmly believe AOC has the worst community of any MMO I've ever played.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: tazelbain on June 10, 2008, 04:18:19 PM
How can that be? It has boobies.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: palmer_eldritch on June 10, 2008, 04:20:12 PM
I'm sure it is soloable but after standing around for at least thirty minutes waiting for just four of the damn fragment bosses I wasn't about to do twelve.

Quick tip:  The boss for the fourth fragment is not actually where the X is on the map, he spawns in the little pit where the minions are digging up skeletons in that same camp.

The fragment bosses spawn very slowly and are a pain.

The forest bosses spawn very quickly. That quest can also be done solo, even though it is marked as a group quest I think, if you are smart.

But yes, the fragment bosses pissed me off too.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: lamaros on June 10, 2008, 04:38:44 PM
They changed from a very localized regional ooc to a nation wide regional apparently. It's all misogyny and homophobia all the time. Unfortunately, it's also the only way to find a group. I logged out in disgust. Compared to this, Barrens chat deserves the Nobel Prize. I firmly believe AOC has the worst community of any MMO I've ever played.

Hmm shouldn't the misogyny and homophobia be on the RP servers?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Sir T on June 10, 2008, 05:14:19 PM
Hmm shouldn't the misogyny and homophobia be on the RP servers?

Its supposed to be Conan, not Gor.

(Though it would really not surprise me if the Goreans are already moving in...)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Sir T on June 10, 2008, 06:53:48 PM
By the way, heres my Tempest of Set Experience

Press spell button

Wait up to 2 seconds for my guy to stop playing with himself and actually get to work

Wait 4 seconds as spell is casting. In the meantime I press next action key to queue that up
when thats animating i press the next action. Since the action is queued it will go off immediatly.

If I have to run I have to pray the dumnass on my screen notices so I can get out

Since it's doesn't, the result is death.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: photek on June 11, 2008, 01:20:39 AM
By the way, heres my Tempest of Set Experience

Press spell button

Wait up to 2 seconds for my guy to stop playing with himself and actually get to work

Wait 4 seconds as spell is casting. In the meantime I press next action key to queue that up
when thats animating i press the next action. Since the action is queued it will go off immediatly.

If I have to run I have to pray the dumnass on my screen notices so I can get out

Since it's doesn't, the result is death.

I guess you are referring to Lightning Strike ? It actually has a small cooldown after it is used, so you cannot spam it. And don't worry, once you get Storm Field / Storm Crown you will have far more fun, ToS is awesome.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on June 11, 2008, 02:09:13 AM
Sir T. That's the Tempest before level 15, and/or if you specced it in the wrongest way possible.
I am redundant about the ToS qualities and fun factor, but apparently it's never enough. It has been stated so many times that the ToS, given a few levels, it's not what you described.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Sir T on June 11, 2008, 02:56:18 AM
I was actually bitching more about the godawful system requirements that appernetly have me communicating with mu avatar through morse code...

and for the record At level 19/20 my treck through the final battle in Tortage was a line line of tomnstones.. And I don't have a cloe how I could have set up ly feats any differently at that level to make mmuch difference.

Fun game but I'm sick and tired of hammering my keyboard in frustration.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Typhon on June 11, 2008, 03:12:30 AM
My experience/strategy:
Spec everything in lightening
Max out casting concentrating at every level

begin every "tough" battle by applying one or both of the hots (save the quick heal for when you're getting beaten up)

to begin combat, start with the big lightening, wait till they group up (i.e. they get to you), then hit them with the quick lightening,
then immediately follow up with the big lightening
Decide whether you want to flash heal, and/or (re-)apply the any of the hots
Now decide whether you want to beat them to death, or do they need some more lightening

In a couple levels you get storm cloud, after which this class is surely crazy broken (overpowered).


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Numtini on June 11, 2008, 04:16:25 AM
I found there was some funky disconnect between the animations and the action on my TOS. Thats probably the case with melee as well, but it moves so fast it's hard to figure out if something got lost or you just didn't hit or something.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: apocrypha on June 11, 2008, 10:00:48 AM
Max out casting concentrating at every level

You sure that's necessary? I've got 1 in Casting Concentration and *never* get interrupted apart from when the mobs use knockdowns or stuns.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on June 11, 2008, 10:06:39 AM
Yeah you only need to put points into it once you get that warning message, no need to max it out.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Morfiend on June 11, 2008, 10:13:15 AM
I can't recall is I said this before, but they really need a /who system. Their player and guild search is an insult to mankind. I think the last game where I couldnt do /who "name" was in the mid 90s.

Maybe I just dont know the right command, but this is fucking horrible.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Typhon on June 11, 2008, 01:49:08 PM
Yeah you only need to put points into it once you get that warning message, no need to max it out.

I think this is accurate, I just didn't have anything else to put skill points into.  A hiding TOS didn't seem to make much sense, and having a 100 points into restore seemed more then enough to regen mana quickly.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on June 11, 2008, 03:27:31 PM
Apparently the border kingdoms are just copies of the resource areas?  As in Aqualonia's border kingdom is Potain all over again etc.

If true that is fucking lame.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: schild on June 11, 2008, 03:29:27 PM
It's true, found that out the other day when I went to Kush.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on June 12, 2008, 05:16:42 AM
Apparently the border kingdoms are just copies of the resource areas?  As in Aqualonia's border kingdom is Potain all over again etc.

If true that is fucking lame.

Well that's disappointing. Place holders maybe?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: murdoc on June 12, 2008, 08:26:42 AM
I can't recall is I said this before, but they really need a /who system. Their player and guild search is an insult to mankind. I think the last game where I couldnt do /who "name" was in the mid 90s.

Maybe I just dont know the right command, but this is fucking horrible.

Amen.



Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on June 12, 2008, 11:31:09 AM
I don't like that since the patch before this one, I crash several times during each play session.  I never used to crash before.  Since I only play an hour or so at a time, it sort of makes the game unplayable for me.  So far, every update has broken something for me.   :uhrr:


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Lantyssa on June 13, 2008, 12:08:48 PM
I think they introduced a memory leak.  I had my first lock-up yesterday after playing a while, and I'm losing map textures frequently.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nerf on June 13, 2008, 12:09:40 PM
Happened to me last night after 5+ hours too, old tarantia ate itself.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on June 13, 2008, 12:25:48 PM
Since the last patch I also have about a one in five chance of crashing while zoning.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on June 13, 2008, 12:31:48 PM
I'm getting occasional client error messages. My screen will lock up for a few seconds, then I'll get a messages saying that the error was being sent in the background. This has been a recent development, so I'm assuming it was introduced with the latest patch.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: rattran on June 13, 2008, 12:33:46 PM
I've been getting that occasionally since launch, but it's more common now after the June 12 patch. Maybe 3 an hour.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on June 14, 2008, 07:06:13 AM
The other day I thought it had all got better.  I logged in, completed a couple of quests, actually was in for nearly an hour I think.  Even chatted to Schildy's girl form for a bit.  I made the mistake of holding down both mouse buttons to run around, as I occasionally do, and it froze.  Then it crashed.  Now I crash when I zone, when I look at something, when I move around too much, just most of the time, actually.   :uhrr:  And it was all going so well.  Now it's just going.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Venkman on June 14, 2008, 09:41:35 AM
Add having to resummon pets when entering/leaving an instance

Pets don't swim. At least demonologist pets don't. They have to be resummoned if you cross a river.


They also don't climb
Demon pets will occasionally warp to your location to catch up though. But it's inconsistent. Easier just to recast the stupid thing, assuming you bother the cast it in the first place.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Typhon on June 14, 2008, 11:27:12 AM
The other day I thought it had all got better.  I logged in, completed a couple of quests, actually was in for nearly an hour I think.  Even chatted to Schildy's girl form for a bit.  I made the mistake of holding down both mouse buttons to run around, as I occasionally do, and it froze.  Then it crashed.  Now I crash when I zone, when I look at something, when I move around too much, just most of the time, actually.   :uhrr:  And it was all going so well.  Now it's just going.

I was having similar problems (the map screwing up usually is the first indicator that things are going to start going poorly).  Friends with low-power PCs weren't having these same issues, so I dropped my texture detail to low, so far it's been a lot more stable (course, not as pretty).


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on June 14, 2008, 11:44:09 AM
Putting everything on low doesn't help.  I don't think it's any thing like that, anyway.  It was running and working fine before the patch on Monday.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Sir T on June 14, 2008, 07:12:10 PM
"My thighs sweat with the force of your conviction. Use that passion to bring me his head."

I'm, sorry. That has got to be the WORST line I have ever read. I mean come on. The whole "every women isa slut" dialog just jot stupid for me. Wish I'd taken a screenshot...


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Threash on June 14, 2008, 07:20:35 PM
"My thighs sweat with the force of your conviction. Use that passion to bring me his head."

I'm, sorry. That has got to be the WORST line I have ever read. I mean come on. The whole "every women isa slut" dialog just jot stupid for me. Wish I'd taken a screenshot...

Are you kidding? thats fucking awesome!


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Brogarn on June 14, 2008, 07:54:35 PM
Pets poofing on zone. Definitely hate having to recast Necro pets every time I zone. Hate. Hate. Hate.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Lantyssa on June 15, 2008, 05:51:39 AM
"My thighs sweat with the force of your conviction. Use that passion to bring me his head."

I'm, sorry. That has got to be the WORST line I have ever read. I mean come on. The whole "every women isa slut" dialog just jot stupid for me. Wish I'd taken a screenshot...
She is the former high priestess of Derketo.  The goddess of Lust and Fertility.  Sex is what they do.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Typhon on June 15, 2008, 06:03:54 AM
Putting everything on low doesn't help.  I don't think it's any thing like that, anyway.  It was running and working fine before the patch on Monday.

Sadly, you are right, textures make no difference.  My experience with map wonkiness is from launch, not from Monday's patch, so the patch isn't to blame either.  Deleting the shader files often does nothing to help as well.

Already losing my will to put up with this shit.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Signe on June 15, 2008, 07:44:40 AM
"My thighs sweat with the force of your conviction. Use that passion to bring me his head."

I'm, sorry. That has got to be the WORST line I have ever read. I mean come on. The whole "every women isa slut" dialog just jot stupid for me. Wish I'd taken a screenshot...
She is the former high priestess of Derketo.  The goddess of Lust and Fertility.  Sex is what they do.

Derketo is one of the character names I found at that Conan name generator thingy.  I had no idea there was a server named that.  We should have played there - the whore server.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: tmp on June 15, 2008, 11:21:12 AM
"My thighs sweat with the force of your conviction. Use that passion to bring me his head."

I'm, sorry. That has got to be the WORST line I have ever read. I mean come on. The whole "every women isa slut" dialog just jot stupid for me. Wish I'd taken a screenshot...
"Your resistance only makes my penis harder!"

i dunno, they seem to be from the same mould.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: squirrel on June 15, 2008, 04:34:00 PM
"My thighs sweat with the force of your conviction. Use that passion to bring me his head."

I'm, sorry. That has got to be the WORST line I have ever read. I mean come on. The whole "every women isa slut" dialog just jot stupid for me. Wish I'd taken a screenshot...
She is the former high priestess of Derketo.  The goddess of Lust and Fertility.  Sex is what they do.

Derketo is one of the character names I found at that Conan name generator thingy.  I had no idea there was a server named that.  We should have played there - the whore server.

Only had we agreed to found the all-female chapter you suggested - Bat Cuntry. Which I'm up for. Totally.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: AcidCat on June 17, 2008, 11:47:30 AM
Well, I've lost interest in the game. No one thing really did it, but here is my list of things that brought the game down for me.


- Boring loot. Yes, I really enjoy loot and having my character's appearance change as I progress. At level 37 my gear looked exactly like my level 10 gear. A lot of my enjoyment of MMOs is finding and buying cool stuff for my dude, AoC just sucks in this department.

- No massive world. I like to explore and get the feeling I'm inside a real world. Not just disconnected maps. Hyboria just doesn't have an epic feel, there's very little exploration - and while the landscape does look nice, it's just not put together in a way that feels real.

- No variety for alts. Doing the same shit over and over sucks for alt-oholics. After my third time through Tortage I could never do it again.

- Realism is boring. I tried to like it, I just prefer more pure fantasy stuff. I want to play a bull man or an ogre, everyone being a human is boring.

- Serious is boring. There's no levity or goofiness in Hyboria, nothing as a contrast to the darkness. In a place I'm going to spend a lot of hours in, I want some variety to theme and mood. Hyborea is emotionally one-dimensional.

- Little annoyances add up. All the small quirks, bugs, problems eventually get more and more annoying. I didn't mind all the loading screens at first. By the end each one seemed longer and more pointless than the last.


Just my final two cents on the game.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Slayerik on June 17, 2008, 12:00:36 PM
All good reasons.

Is there an MMO you are looking forward to or returning to? My fear right now is how bad autoattack is, especially after playing this.

Then again I'm still having a riot, played my conquerer last night and got a double decapitation the first 2 mobs I killed. I was very pleased.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: AcidCat on June 17, 2008, 12:08:24 PM

My fear right now is how bad autoattack is, especially after playing this.



Very true. AoC's melee combat makes autoattack feel hopelessly old fashioned.

I'll probably take a break from the genre for a while, nothing else really appealing out there right now. I do plan on going back to WoW but not until closer to Lich King at least.

I still have hope for Chronicles of Spellborn for combat this isn't autoattack, though it's just a vague hope.

Aion looks promising just in terms of a more colorful, fantastic world. And I still have some hope that Warhammer will be worth playing - but in both cases it's just a matter of getting used to that old school type of combat.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on June 17, 2008, 01:17:44 PM
Some people are reporting that those hotlinks in the chat window can be scripted to do bad things.  For example a guild master got kicked out of his own guild clicking one. (http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=91697)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: LK on June 17, 2008, 01:24:55 PM
"My thighs sweat with the force of your conviction. Use that passion to bring me his head."

I'm, sorry. That has got to be the WORST line I have ever read. I mean come on. The whole "every women isa slut" dialog just jot stupid for me. Wish I'd taken a screenshot...
She is the former high priestess of Derketo.  The goddess of Lust and Fertility.  Sex is what they do.

Jesus, who is that? Where do I find her?

Also, the quest where my female character got a merchant to leave Conall's Village by having sex with him, then told him he was limp and would spread the rumor if he persisted annoying everyone, WAS AWESOME.

I think I just heard a feminist shit her pants somewhere.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Sir T on June 17, 2008, 02:39:15 PM
Right now I'm stuck in a tree and cant even instance out of it or die. Oddly I define this as something I don't like.

Jesus, who is that? Where do I find her?

She's in Kopshef Province in Stygia. Her names Semira and Shes in the pastun island thats got lots of undead types. I think you get the quest to talk to her from... um... *checks* Captain Menes.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: LK on June 17, 2008, 04:56:27 PM
Now that's my kind of M-Rated game.

Damn it's refreshing.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Abelian75 on June 17, 2008, 06:28:48 PM
The grammatical errors are seriously driving me loony.  Yes, I realize I am fucking weird.  But goddamn, I just did three quests in the noble district where I had to kill "assassin's" and "slayer's" and such.  I was willing to stomach the first one like that, but after the third I just couldn't take it.  I wouldn't care if I had any faith at all that they would be fixed shortly, or even within a year.  Unfortunately, it seems like stuff like that never gets fixed, because I am weird and nobody else cares.

Edit:  Also, random disappearing/appearing mobs in southern khopshef are pretty awesome.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on June 22, 2008, 08:10:06 AM
What is the point of making melee NPC mini-bosses that can teleport all over the place?  The fuckers need to come running right back to fight again anyways, it's not like they can teleport and start casting.  It gains them nothing and just pisses me off.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Sir T on June 22, 2008, 08:41:10 AM
You sure its not just lag?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on June 22, 2008, 09:04:36 AM
Yes I'm sure, there's a teleport animation and everything.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Abelian75 on June 25, 2008, 06:11:44 PM
So I went to the treasury of the ancients, having read in one of the patch notes that it had been newly revamped and all.  I walked in and walked through a long, empty hallway.  When I reached the end of the hallway, right before it opened up into a big room, I hit an invisible wall and and got an on-screen message that said "start camera shake woot."  There was no camera shake.  Awesome so far. 

I walk back to the entrance, intending to leave, where I encounter another invisible wall blocking my way out.  "Fuck," I think.  Then, as I am attempting to log out, I get attacked by invisible primitive statues that i can only spot because of the big circular target symbol appearing on the floor when I auto-target them after being attacked.  I start killing these as they randomly float toward me, looting statue heads.  I keep trying to pass through the invisible wall and, after killing enough invisible statues, eventually succeed. 

I enter the big, ominous circular room, and am greeted with another "start camera shake woot" on-screen message (again, no camera shake).  I am able to target an invisible "queen" statue in the center of the room, and after whacking away at her for a bit, she starts spawning a couple minions (which, miraculously, I can actually see).  I kill her without further incident, and loot the exciting jeweled treasure chest she drops.  It contains a random green, her head, and an invisible box with the tooltip "no name."

All in all, a fucking trashy experience.  Revamped my asshole.

I've enjoyed doing tortage like six times, though.  After that it rapidly goes to shit.  Like, serious, serious shit.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nerf on June 25, 2008, 11:53:59 PM
After a week or so off, I hopped back on my PoM tonight and ground from 58-60 on some apes and shit, so sweat, it went quickly, had some pvp along the way.

After a few hours of grinding, decide to take a break to pvp with the guildmasters level 34 assassin, we head off to the Eig mountains to have some fun.

Holy fuck are ToS are necro's broken right now.  I mean holy fucking shit.  At level 60, the only way I can take out a 53 ToS is if he's stupid enough to stand still, and necro's are just clownshoes.

That being said, I really do like the survivability of the PoM, I was kiting 5 level 51-55s, including a necro and his full array of pets for about 15 minutes before I got bored and wandered off.

But yeah, necro pets that instantly sap you down to 0stam/mana, ToS's being able to out HoT my damage even while 7 levels lower, I don't expect pvp to be balanced, but I don't expect it to me *this* rediculous.

Oh, it was still fun, though.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Slayerik on June 26, 2008, 06:44:16 AM
Your damage may suck, but we were able to take on some pretty tough odds....well, till that fuckin' HoX showed up and like instagibbed me.

If I roll another guy, it will be a HoX. Their burst DPS is sexy, and the stun is nasty.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Lantyssa on June 26, 2008, 12:47:11 PM
All in all, a fucking trashy experience.  Revamped my asshole.

I've enjoyed doing tortage like six times, though.  After that it rapidly goes to shit.  Like, serious, serious shit.
I've been through several times without problem.  I don't know why you couldn't see the statues, but when you can it's a really cool encounter.

(My only issues with it are being locked in once it starts, or if some idiot runs to the end before everyone has entered the hallway.)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: cevik on June 26, 2008, 01:05:58 PM
I've been through several times without problem.  I don't know why you couldn't see the statues, but when you can it's a really cool encounter.

Yeah, I liked the encounter, thought it was a rare bit of uniqueness.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Morfiend on June 26, 2008, 01:17:53 PM
Necro Drains are stupid broken right now. Like horrible PVP breaking broken. Anyone with a necro should go out farming PVP kills, cause right now there is 0 chance of pretty much anyone being able to fight back.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: photek on June 26, 2008, 07:01:20 PM
Necro Drains are stupid broken right now. Like horrible PVP breaking broken. Anyone with a necro should go out farming PVP kills, cause right now there is 0 chance of pretty much anyone being able to fight back.

Elaborate please. Is it a broken mechanic or just buffed like hell ?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Abelian75 on June 26, 2008, 07:19:00 PM
I've been through several times without problem.  I don't know why you couldn't see the statues, but when you can it's a really cool encounter.

(My only issues with it are being locked in once it starts, or if some idiot runs to the end before everyone has entered the hallway.)

Interesting.  It would appear that several of the bugs/unfinished content I've been experiencing may just be happening to me.  A whole shitload of mobs are nameless for me (crocodiles in the oasis in khosphef, and pretty much every quest NPC they've added since launch), but today I confirmed that, for the crocodiles at least, other people are seeing them with names (mutated crocodile or something).  Presumably I was having problems in the treasury because it too is new content, and something is borked for me.  I am reinstalling.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on June 26, 2008, 11:10:38 PM
Or just verify/repair from the settings menu n the patcher. That does wonders.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: cevik on June 27, 2008, 05:18:09 AM
I'd probably also go to the AoC directory and delete:

shader.cache
shader.cache.local
shaders_cache.bin

And let them rebuild, just to be on the safe side.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on June 27, 2008, 06:28:54 AM
So I went to the treasury of the ancients, having read in one of the patch notes that it had been newly revamped and all.  I walked in and walked through a long, empty hallway.  When I reached the end of the hallway, right before it opened up into a big room, I hit an invisible wall and and got an on-screen message that said "start camera shake woot."  There was no camera shake.  Awesome so far. 

I walk back to the entrance, intending to leave, where I encounter another invisible wall blocking my way out.  "Fuck," I think.  Then, as I am attempting to log out, I get attacked by invisible primitive statues that i can only spot because of the big circular target symbol appearing on the floor when I auto-target them after being attacked.  I start killing these as they randomly float toward me, looting statue heads.  I keep trying to pass through the invisible wall and, after killing enough invisible statues, eventually succeed. 

I enter the big, ominous circular room, and am greeted with another "start camera shake woot" on-screen message (again, no camera shake).  I am able to target an invisible "queen" statue in the center of the room, and after whacking away at her for a bit, she starts spawning a couple minions (which, miraculously, I can actually see).  I kill her without further incident, and loot the exciting jeweled treasure chest she drops.  It contains a random green, her head, and an invisible box with the tooltip "no name."

All in all, a fucking trashy experience.  Revamped my asshole.

I've enjoyed doing tortage like six times, though.  After that it rapidly goes to shit.  Like, serious, serious shit.

Yeah, somthing is busted on your end/client. I did that one the day after the revamp, and its really, really cool encounter. Spooky even, the first time.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Abelian75 on June 28, 2008, 09:39:34 AM
Interesting.  It would appear that several of the bugs/unfinished content I've been experiencing may just be happening to me.  A whole shitload of mobs are nameless for me (crocodiles in the oasis in khosphef, and pretty much every quest NPC they've added since launch), but today I confirmed that, for the crocodiles at least, other people are seeing them with names (mutated crocodile or something).  Presumably I was having problems in the treasury because it too is new content, and something is borked for me.  I am reinstalling.

So, I reinstalled the game, and all the problems were still there (and yeah, I'd tried verifying my RDB as well, and while I had thousands of errors fixed, everything was still busted in-game).  Also, there was no sound.  I was like, "Fuck."

Then I disabled UAC (yeah, I'm running vista) and verified the RDB again, and now it works fine.  So I guess that was fucking things up.

It's amazing how much shit I was missing.  Tons of audio effects were missing (like their version of the 'ding' that I'd thought was just very faint but in fact was not there at all), as well as assorted particle effects.  My experience just got substantially less shitty.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nerf on June 28, 2008, 02:31:19 PM
If I don't go into the creative audio panel and reset it from 7-channel to headphones every time I reboot I can't hear half the shit that happens on AoC, although this isn't an AoC problem, it's still a pain in the ass.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: cevik on June 30, 2008, 07:09:09 AM
If I don't go into the creative audio panel and reset it from 7-channel to headphones every time I reboot I can't hear half the shit that happens on AoC, although this isn't an AoC problem, it's still a pain in the ass.

With my wive's ATI card, if she runs the game twice in a row without rebooting in between, she goes from 30-40 fps on average to about 7-8 fps.  It doesn't happen on my machine, which has an 8800 gt.  No idea if it's the card or whatever, but it's annoying! :)


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Morfiend on June 30, 2008, 02:04:49 PM
On Thursday evening, I went in to the Cannibal cave in Eig. Mountains, and was getting 6 to 7 FPS. I normally run the game between 17 and 30. One of the guys in my guild told me to turn my shader down to 2.0. Wow. I shot up to 90 FPS instantly. The game doesn't look as shiny at all, but damn that was a big performance increase.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Rake on July 18, 2008, 12:24:53 AM
I picked up the game late, so I'm still enjoying the newness so far. Some minor things seem to be bugging more than anything so far:

Biggest gripe is the rezzing with almost zero health stamina mana and having to hit the rest button while I wait out the immune timer then rebuff. I want to get back into action, not stand around pointlessly. Plus if I use my self rez I have to still sit out the invul-timer because I am silenced for this time, so I get to watch my team die while they are wondering where the heals are. If someone's tempted to say "Don't die Nub!" I'd just like to point out that every MMO I've played is not made with the player having a hope of surviving, unlike Diablo 2 where you could pretty much get to max level playing Hardcore Mode with only yourself or a shitty internet connection to blame for any untimely deaths. MMO's have death as a given, but does it need to be so dull.

I also think this rezzing with no health is what allows the portal gankers to do their thing.

Not into the running around from quest area to quest area and the getting choked up with loot, but these seem to be standard MMO bullshit.

Most of the other stuff seems to be getting addressed with the patch notes for today; Firends list lumped together with the Guild list, Emotes not friendly to exact (RP server).

There's a few more things, but nothing so bad so far. I'm just at the level where I can begin crafting so I might have more complaints soon, but I'll not whine about stuff I've yet to see.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on July 18, 2008, 03:34:37 AM
I don't know if it will help or if you're already doing it but one of the things I completely ignored before level 60 were potions.  They are cheap as dirt, restore lots of health/stam/mana and last a full minute.  I can't overemphasize how important it is to have dozens of potions on you.  Just keep chugging the stam ones while sprinting too.  Same goes for food and drink, I imagine on a PvP server the alchemist ones that persist through death and last much longer would be quite important.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Threash on July 18, 2008, 06:06:00 AM
I don't know if it will help or if you're already doing it but one of the things I completely ignored before level 60 were potions.  They are cheap as dirt, restore lots of health/stam/mana and last a full minute.  I can't overemphasize how important it is to have dozens of potions on you.  Just keep chugging the stam ones while sprinting too.  Same goes for food and drink, I imagine on a PvP server the alchemist ones that persist through death and last much longer would be quite important.

Pvp death doesnt even remove your buffs.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Miasma on July 22, 2008, 05:18:30 PM
I don't like that my free buddy key costs my buddy three bucks... (http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=141464)

Quote
We have now opened the first part of the Buddy key program for Age of Conan! Everybody who has purchased a Collector's Edition can now invite up to five friends, who can try the game for seven days without purchasing a retail box.

The invitation process is easy. You need to log-in to your account pages (https://register.ageofconan.com), and choose “Buddy program”. Follow the on-screen instructions, and then write a personal message to your friends if you so desire.

We recommend that you lend your install DVDs to your buddy to get him or her ready to play as fast as possible. Alternatively your buddy will be offered a $2,99/€2,99 client download with 3 additional days of playtime to cover the download time.

While this offer is only for Collector’s Edition accounts for now, we will soon open up for the Buddy key found in the standard retail box as well.

I also don't like that I had to in-line that quote since funcom hides the official announcements from the public for some God forsaken reason.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: pxib on July 22, 2008, 06:01:58 PM
So no ten day free trial, eh? THREE DAYS to cover the download time?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: HaemishM on July 23, 2008, 07:21:55 AM
A $3 trial? WTF, mate? Unless you are putting the DVD's in stores for $3, that's a stupid stupid way to not get customers.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on July 23, 2008, 07:26:03 AM
IT's not a trial, its the fee for downloading the 20+ gig client at high speeds, as opposed to borrowing someones disks. Its an option, not a must.

Good lord people will bitch about anything. You would pay about the same if they put it on Fileplanet premium servers. The 3days is not how long it takes, but rather a buffer for those that always have issues for whatever reason downloading large files, this way it doesn't eat into the buddy pass time.

I expect the free trail to come rather soon, but only contain tortage (Trial of the isle style), also, a smaller download, thus free.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nebu on July 23, 2008, 10:11:16 AM
The free tutorial should start with a lesson on adjusting visual settings to obtain the best framerates.  It was bad in beta, but the stories I'm getting from friends playing live remind me that without a fairly new machine, it's tough to enjoy the visuals without some suffering. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on July 23, 2008, 10:21:07 AM
Mrbloodworth,

you seriously think it's a good idea to give players the option of paying for the client in a free trial?

I think this is beyond stupid. Maybe they know something I don't, but looks to me like a masterfully crafted shot in the foot.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on July 23, 2008, 11:19:40 AM
Mrbloodworth,

you seriously think it's a good idea to give players the option of paying for the client in a free trial?

I think this is beyond stupid. Maybe they know something I don't, but looks to me like a masterfully crafted shot in the foot.

Maybe a shot in the foot, i just don't think its beyond expectations considering the size of the client. The size of the client means it would eather be a small fee, or on something like Fileplanet, where ever it goes, there would be a fee.

Like i said, when they do make a free trail, i expect it to only include Tortage, and be a trial of the isle like trial. And the smaller size would mean no fee. This, is the full client with a buddy key, all content and only a time frame. Scope is key here.

AOC is one of the largest MMO clients i can think off, larger than even vanguard. Everyone else now uses small download and partial downloads for trials, but this isn't really a trial.

Its also only 3$. I don't think its unreasonable.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: cevik on July 23, 2008, 11:20:25 AM
Mrbloodworth,

you seriously think it's a good idea to give players the option of paying for the client in a free trial?

I think this is beyond stupid. Maybe they know something I don't, but looks to me like a masterfully crafted shot in the foot.

There is a word to describe this strategery:  Boneheaded.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: HaemishM on July 23, 2008, 11:39:02 AM
Its also only 3$. I don't think its unreasonable.

In pure market terms, it's called BARRIER TO ENTRY. As in, the more you put on a product, the less likely you are going to get people to purchase the product. I understand the logistics. I don't understand the business thought behind it. It's like they don't want people to use it.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Morfiend on July 23, 2008, 12:56:33 PM
Yeah, I thought the whole point behind the buddy key was to get more people in the game, to earn subscribers. Its almost like they know the buddy people wont stay. ALMOST.  :drill:


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Lakov_Sanite on July 23, 2008, 01:26:25 PM
Yeah, I thought the whole point behind the buddy key was to get more people in the game, to earn subscribers. Its almost like they know the buddy people wont stay. ALMOST.  :drill:

I had no idea that the buddy key I got when I bought the game still won't work. I mean...why even waste money printing them?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Falconeer on July 23, 2008, 03:39:26 PM
I had no idea that the buddy key I got when I bought the game still won't work. I mean...why even waste money printing them?

Oh hey, I got it... THAT's the 3$ they are trying to get back!


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nebu on July 24, 2008, 09:38:23 AM
So, let me see if I understand this.  Is the $3 they are charging for this download akin to Funcom saying "hey, we can't afford a pipeline for you to download our software for free" ?

That's how it comes off to me. 


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on July 24, 2008, 09:52:13 AM
So, let me see if I understand this.  Is the $3 they are charging for this download akin to Funcom saying "hey, we can't afford a pipeline for you to download our software for free" ?

That's how it comes off to me. 

Its most likely eather you pay them for the bandwidth, or Fileplanet. Whats the difference?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nebu on July 24, 2008, 09:56:36 AM
Its most likely eather you pay them for the bandwidth, or Fileplanet. Whats the difference?

Option 3: They (or the publisher) provide the bandwidth and consider it an advertising cost.  Seems this is the best way to attract potential customers. 

Imagine the person giving free samples at the grocery store says "Want a sample of this new pizza?  It's only $3".  Do they even give samples out at grocery stores anymore?


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on July 24, 2008, 10:01:46 AM
Its most likely eather you pay them for the bandwidth, or Fileplanet. Whats the difference?

Option 3: They (or the publisher) provide the bandwidth and consider it an advertising cost.  Seems this is the best way to attract potential customers. 

Imagine the person giving free samples at the grocery store says "Want a sample of this new pizza?  It's only $3".  Do they even give samples out at grocery stores anymore?

You example is like what i said before. The slice is a piece of the whole. The buddy key is the whole, not a slice (trial). 

Like other games with free trials, they will most likely not give out the entire client. It will be akin to the Island trial of EQ2, or the partial download of Wow, you know only totage. Its not a sample, its the while pizza with no restrictions but time!  Then after subscribing and buying the game, you get the whole pie (no fee, you paid for the client, if you used a buddy key, you already have it, a real trial would require more downloads)).

We are talking 1-2 gigs, VS 24+.

In a perfect world, sure host the whole thing and be done with it. But is it really that unreasonable to charge 3$ for a huge full client download at high speeds?

REALLY?

No one i have given my buddy keys to have complained.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: HaemishM on July 24, 2008, 10:03:16 AM
In a perfect world, sure host the whole thing and be done with it. But is it really that unreasonable to charge 3$ for a huge full client download at high speeds?

REALLY?

Yes. Srsly.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on July 24, 2008, 10:04:26 AM
In a perfect world, sure host the whole thing and be done with it. But is it really that unreasonable to charge 3$ for a huge full client download at high speeds?

REALLY?

Yes. Srsly.

Well, ok then.
Torrent it.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Nebu on July 24, 2008, 10:07:33 AM
I wasn't commenting on how unreasonable it was... rather how helpful from an advertising or word-of-mouth sense.  My guess is that charging $3 to download a game that you're trying to sell will have the effect of turning potential customers off at a rate exceeding the revenue gained by the $3 charged.   I think that they're settling for drips when they could be gaining more with a small up front investment.  Hell, maybe I'm wrong.   


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Mrbloodworth on July 24, 2008, 10:09:43 AM
I wasn't commenting on how unreasonable it was... rather how helpful from an advertising or word-of-mouth sense.  My guess is that charging $3 to download a game that you're trying to sell will have the effect of turning potential customers off at a rate exceeding the revenue gained by the $3 charged.   I think that they're settling for drips when they could be gaining more with a small up front investment.  Hell, maybe I'm wrong.   

No. I think your right.

I guess my point being, expect more of this as games continue to get larger in size. Or, wait for real trials (Modified, structured, smaller).

But then again, no one i have given buddy keys to have complained about this.


Title: Re: Let's be MORE Useful! Things you don't like!
Post by: Engels on July 24, 2008, 10:57:05 AM
What to me this is really indicative of is how in denial Funcom is about the state of their game, and the subsequent word of mouth conflagration of bad press its getting.

I don't think they can accept that Conan went from belle of the ball to scorned scapegoat in a matter of weeks, and are still laboring under the assumption that $3.00 download is not a barrier for the legions of mouthbreathers who can't wait to jump into the l33t world of Conan.

That was true two months ago, not any longer. Now, the mouthbreathing horde has moved on to some other shiny.