Title: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on February 16, 2008, 09:19:30 PM If I can drum up enough interest, I want to challenge MkVenner's clan (FL) to a match. They're pretty good, but I don't think it's anything we can't handle. What do you say, are you with me?
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: caladein on February 16, 2008, 09:21:30 PM What do you say, are you with me? :drill: (That's yes.) Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on February 16, 2008, 11:21:48 PM Sure, but he spent far too much time specing me last time. He knows all my tricks now! :ye_gods:
But seriously, sure, why not....it'll give me a good excuse to reinstall Steam and TF2. :awesome_for_real: Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Prospero on February 16, 2008, 11:50:53 PM Heck yeah.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: cmlancas on February 17, 2008, 04:01:20 AM I'll play medic bitch and clanger whore for you if needbe. Just make sure the scrim is after 5PM and not on a Saturday :drill:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: bhodi on February 17, 2008, 09:44:41 AM Sure! I still play. Whachoo talkin' about willis?
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: trias_e on February 17, 2008, 11:20:55 AM Yeah, I'm there. I'm not that bad and I still play now and then. Can't really do it weekend nights though.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Samwise on February 17, 2008, 12:36:02 PM Oh yes. There will be blood.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on February 17, 2008, 05:39:21 PM (http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/therewillbeblood.jpg)
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on February 17, 2008, 05:39:59 PM I'm in! :awesome_for_real:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: schild on February 17, 2008, 05:42:28 PM Heh, if it's not Monday or Tuesday, it's just not happening for me. As GDC is this week.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on February 17, 2008, 05:55:13 PM Oh yeah, I cannot do Mondays, at all. Or the 21st.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on February 18, 2008, 02:26:27 AM Well, Venner didn't log on at all today so I'm gonna hunt him down tomorrow(tonight) and make a formal declaration. Glad so many of you are up for it =)
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: HaemishM on February 18, 2008, 07:57:43 AM Yeah, I'd be up for getting myself and my teammates killed many times over. :awesome_for_real:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Nija on February 18, 2008, 09:23:22 AM My clan would probably play you guys, if you want some more informal sessions. We do 8v8 and Sundays is the practice night, from about 5 PST - 9 PST.
The only real rules is ~3 per class, but even that isn't set in stone. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: cmlancas on February 18, 2008, 03:12:29 PM Where's Slayerik's clan? :awesome_for_real: :pedobear:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on February 18, 2008, 04:43:10 PM Well, I laid down the challenge to Venner a little while ago. He says they're up for it, but there's a pretty big issue that I hadn't really considered. Neither group has their own server! I suppose we could just invade a pub... any suggestions?
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: MrHat on February 18, 2008, 06:49:58 PM I'd be game, just get some informal going on an empty pug server.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on February 18, 2008, 10:03:04 PM any suggestions? Annoy schild until he cracks and ups a server for a night.Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Thrawn on February 19, 2008, 07:45:09 AM Where's Slayerik's clan? :awesome_for_real: :pedobear: ;D Still around. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Lantyssa on February 19, 2008, 10:05:38 AM I'll play! (...on their side. You want to win, right?)
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on February 19, 2008, 10:08:52 AM I like the idea of invading an empty pub. What days/times are you guys available generally?
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on February 19, 2008, 10:15:48 AM Every day except Wednesday. This weekend coming up.. I'm not sure though. Beginning of Reading Week/Mid Semester break, so I might be heading home for the weekend.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: WayAbvPar on February 19, 2008, 03:28:57 PM I don't think I have played since everyone got all butthurt in the last scrimmage, but I can dust off my inferior skills and get killed for the glory of F13.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: caladein on February 19, 2008, 04:07:05 PM I'm pretty much good as long as I have a few days notice to shuffle things about. Not this weekend though.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on February 20, 2008, 04:54:41 PM Same. After 9 on weeknights, EST. Weekends...usually whenever. I need notice though; somehow, I have not been home a whole lot lately.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: MrHat on February 21, 2008, 04:27:52 AM Turns out, I suck. Played vs. the fruit last night and got wtfpwnd. So I went and played vs. venner and he schooled me too.
Man I've almost gotten as bad as Staz in sniping now :( Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on February 21, 2008, 08:17:06 AM ZING! :drill:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Hoax on February 21, 2008, 12:51:16 PM Dunno how I didn't notice this thread, I'm super down for weekday TF2, but I can't gaurentee I'm around until 10pm EST due to work. Also I haven't touched TF2 in a month since I resub'd to eve, so I bet I really suck now.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on February 21, 2008, 04:08:29 PM Best get to practicing then. You guys can get a feel for what some of FL plays like on the 24-hour Dustbowl server than Venner hangs out in. Watch out for Zafire, he's pretty much the best spy ever.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on February 21, 2008, 08:54:18 PM Man I've almost gotten as bad as Staz in sniping now :( Whatever, I have a thing for glass cannon classes, big whoop, wanna snipe about it? :awesome_for_real: Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on February 23, 2008, 12:49:01 AM Venner hasn't been particularly helpful with this, so I'm going to broach the subject with another member of his team tomorrow night if I can track one down. Sorry about the delays. How about we all meet up on Wednesday night around 9 or 10 est for some pub raiding and team stacking?
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Samwise on February 23, 2008, 08:42:22 AM 10 EST sounds good to me.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on February 23, 2008, 09:33:44 AM I'm game
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: MrHat on February 23, 2008, 09:36:14 AM We could hit Venner's server, it's usually 16/24 whenever I get on it, fills up after that.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on February 24, 2008, 04:16:34 PM It's on. Wednesday night, 10 EST :drill:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: bhodi on February 24, 2008, 05:25:52 PM Everyone have your game face on! I'll be there.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on February 24, 2008, 05:51:17 PM I will try VERY hard to be around. :oh_i_see:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: MrHat on February 25, 2008, 05:47:07 AM Me 3.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on February 25, 2008, 06:28:25 AM MrBat! Back in action! :drill:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: MrHat on February 25, 2008, 07:28:12 AM Bat blows now though :(
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Slayerik on February 25, 2008, 12:11:00 PM Where's Slayerik's clan? :awesome_for_real: :pedobear: Fuck you. :uhrr: :ye_gods: :awesome_for_real: Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: cmlancas on February 25, 2008, 01:34:33 PM :-)
It's all fun and games until someone's e-feelings get hurt. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Samwise on February 25, 2008, 03:23:22 PM Then it's just fun?
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: caladein on February 25, 2008, 08:58:06 PM I'll be there.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: trias_e on February 25, 2008, 09:08:06 PM I'll be there. I'll even practice first!
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on February 26, 2008, 06:31:42 PM I think this time around we should get a general idea for who is playing what. Well, except for Straz. We don't care much for him and his antics.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on February 26, 2008, 07:24:13 PM I'm calling shenanigans on you, Canadian. :drill:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on February 27, 2008, 12:31:10 AM Anyway, it depends entirely on what server we invade/what maps we encounter. Could be totally random =)
Edit to include the clan Pizza Rocket (http://www.themadmusicarchive.com/samples/j/e/James_Kochalka_Superstar_-_Pizza_Rocket.mp3) theme song. They play this song whenever they win a round. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: caladein on February 27, 2008, 04:28:26 AM I think this time around we should get a general idea for who is playing what. Well, except for Straz. We don't care much for him and his antics. Medic's my best class by a good margin, but I can play Demo/Scout at a decent level. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Der Helm on February 27, 2008, 06:19:06 AM What's that in EVE time ? :awesome_for_real:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: HaemishM on February 27, 2008, 09:43:18 AM My best class is usually soldier, with a smattering of demoman or heavy.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: cmlancas on February 27, 2008, 10:09:48 AM Defense: Pyro/Engy. Offense: Pyro/Medic/Engy
There ya go. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: bhodi on February 27, 2008, 03:38:49 PM so where is this going down?
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on February 27, 2008, 03:56:40 PM Oh, you know :pedobear:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on February 27, 2008, 04:16:58 PM Plan is to invade an empty pub server since neither group has their own. Not the best solution, but what can you do, right?
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on February 27, 2008, 05:24:40 PM How are we coordinating this?
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on February 27, 2008, 05:58:35 PM Screw it. Way too tired tonight. Sorry guys, cap some bastards for me guys. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on February 27, 2008, 08:03:02 PM You're a fucking cuntswab, Straz. Next time you can only be a medic.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on February 27, 2008, 08:46:09 PM Thanks for showing up, guys! That was pretty fun.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Samwise on February 27, 2008, 08:49:59 PM My favorite part was the 5 minute Dustbowl setup time. For reals. It was like an intermission.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: MrHat on February 28, 2008, 06:17:52 AM Ya, that was pretty wild. Then we got curb stomped.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: bhodi on February 28, 2008, 06:48:59 AM But we did very well on all the other maps :)
I was actually surprised, I was expecting us to get steamrolled by a semi-organized clan that plays together. I see you retained your skills, hat... even if I wanted to scream at you a lot :) Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: MrHat on February 28, 2008, 08:24:03 AM lol.
You did anyways. Kinda hurt my feelings. :oops: Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: bhodi on February 28, 2008, 08:40:36 AM Aww you know I :heart:
even if heavies don't understand the idea of camping next to a dispenser with a bullet screen across the openings to catch all the spies that were coming across. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: MrHat on February 28, 2008, 08:43:32 AM W/e I was doing fine as a heavy considering before last night, I had logged at total of 1hr in on heavy.
Also, I got bored. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on February 28, 2008, 09:47:41 AM So, when is our next one? We don't do this enough.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Der Helm on February 28, 2008, 11:36:47 AM I missed it :ye_gods:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on February 28, 2008, 01:37:10 PM I agree, we should do this more often.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on February 28, 2008, 03:36:35 PM Also agreed, though I am sure I was not really missed.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Samwise on February 28, 2008, 03:37:50 PM I wouldn't have minded a few more exploding heads on the other team.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on February 28, 2008, 04:09:27 PM <Insert gay joke in reference to exploding heads and straz>:pedobear:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on February 28, 2008, 04:19:01 PM <Counters with manly joke in reference to exploding heads and himself> :drill:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Hoax on February 29, 2008, 03:49:15 PM I'm down for doing this once a week for sure. Should we do it again next Wednesday? We can pretty much reincarnate any server we join en-masse if we have the #'s we had pre-dustbowl wait time bullshit.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on February 29, 2008, 06:30:58 PM I'm interested, but I won't know until Monday what my new schedule will be like.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on February 29, 2008, 10:07:00 PM I motion this become semi-regular with PRE SCOUTING OF A SERVER. I AM LOOKING AT YOU, PHILDO. YOU MOTHERFUCKER.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: caladein on February 29, 2008, 10:50:47 PM All Hail Five-Minute Setup Phildo :drill:!
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: schild on February 29, 2008, 11:04:23 PM Badlands made me even more bored with this game. What a piece of shit map.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on March 01, 2008, 12:17:22 AM I submit that the first round of that map had a normal setup time. We didn't know! WE DIDN'T KNOW!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on March 01, 2008, 05:26:19 AM How did you guys coordinate, TS?
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: bhodi on March 01, 2008, 06:33:05 AM steam chat.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Strazos on March 01, 2008, 07:26:08 AM Bleh, I was in there waiting, no one showed up. I might have found the energy to play if I thought people were going to play. :|
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on March 01, 2008, 08:24:53 AM You were waiting when we played? Cause I checked my Steam Friends like 4 times before playing to see if I could snag you.
Badlands made me even more bored with this game. What a piece of shit map. Yeah, I can't believe they hyped that map. It's a fucking mess and make absolutely no sense at all. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: schild on March 01, 2008, 11:03:43 AM Badlands made me even more bored with this game. What a piece of shit map. Yeah, I can't believe they hyped that map. It's a fucking mess and make absolutely no sense at all. I'm pretty sure it was made by the complete buffoon that made Hydro. It smells like Hydro. Total shit. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Prospero on March 01, 2008, 11:52:08 PM Buh?!?!?!?! I've had some of my best games on badlands. I really dig the flow of it. I don't like the layout of the bases as much, but the middle part makes for some awesome fire fights.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on March 02, 2008, 02:38:51 AM Yeah, I kind of like the whole tiny chokepoint thing. It's what makes all the 5-point maps fun, but I like that there are multiple ways to sneak up on the point in Badlands whereas everything else is pretty much two columns all the way across the map. I do remember the first time I played it, though, running around like a chicken with its head cut off while looking for the 4th point.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Der Helm on March 12, 2008, 11:55:08 AM Since Eve is still down, I am going to play a few rounds.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on March 12, 2008, 03:02:00 PM I looked and you obviously didn't play for six hours. There's no dedication anymore!
But seriously, let's go pubbing again next week! How's Wednesday night? Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Samwise on March 12, 2008, 03:18:29 PM You mean tonight? I'll check in if I can.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: cmlancas on March 12, 2008, 03:22:12 PM I can play tonight. I can play right now, actually.
PM me on steam. :awesome_for_real: Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on March 12, 2008, 03:24:19 PM LOL< I meant next wednesday, but whatever. Steam it is!
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: MrHat on March 12, 2008, 04:34:19 PM Working late, I'll see if you guys keep on steaming @ like 10pm EST.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: cmlancas on March 12, 2008, 05:22:40 PM We got our asses thoroughly stomped. :ye_gods:
Wasn't really our fault though. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on March 12, 2008, 07:34:04 PM Wow, I missed this. Shit.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Samwise on March 12, 2008, 09:50:43 PM You all tend to be done playing before I'm done working. Boooo. :uhrr:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on March 13, 2008, 05:14:22 AM Next week I'll stay up much later, I promise!
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: NiX on March 13, 2008, 05:37:25 AM Are fridays/weekends totally out of the question? That would make it easier to get most people on around 10 EST.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: cmlancas on March 13, 2008, 07:17:32 AM I think this was more of an informal, "Let's find a pub server and own!" event.
Unfortunately, we got owned. But the [f13] chums all placed in the top five each round. :grin: That being said, we should do this more. Was good fun. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Der Helm on March 13, 2008, 11:45:42 AM I think this was more of an informal, "Let's find a pub server and own!" event. Yeah, but we really should try to find a server with non-retarded teammates. Especially the guys who stood NEXT to the cap point while the attackers where capping it made me :drill:Unfortunately, we got owned. But the [f13] chums all placed in the top five each round. :grin: That being said, we should do this more. Was good fun. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Phildo on March 13, 2008, 01:59:26 PM I really liked the Heavy who ran away while he was ubered.
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: cmlancas on March 13, 2008, 02:25:31 PM That was priceless. I was medicing him, and he just sat there when I said CHARGE!
:oh_i_see: Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Samwise on March 13, 2008, 04:18:15 PM Maybe he was out of ammo? I do wish they had a voice macro for "I need to reload!" so you could tell medics that now isn't the best time to uber you.
OTOH, when a medic ubers me and I'm empty I always charge out with my bare hands rather than waste the uber. Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: cmlancas on March 14, 2008, 05:49:01 PM Close range shotgun isn't too bad either, right? Don't heavies get shotguns or something else besides a minigun? :oh_i_see:
Title: Re: A Scrim, Because You Jerkwads Don't Play TF2 Anymore Post by: Samwise on March 14, 2008, 06:54:00 PM The shotgun isn't bad, but at that point you're better off ubering an engy. The heavy's fists might actually do more damage. Also, fists + uber = :drill:.
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