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Title: Free Trial?
Post by: MrHat on February 05, 2008, 11:11:25 AM
I think I'd like to give this a try this week. Is there a free trial system that I am unaware of?

Edit: Think I remember reading something about a refer-a-friend type system?


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on February 05, 2008, 03:07:05 PM
Unfortunately, in a stroke of SOEness, because I purchased my (two) copies of the game via the Station store (i.e. direct from Sony) as a download, I'm not allowed to have any buddy keys.

Dumbasses.

edit:  I too, am a dumbass.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: MrHat on February 05, 2008, 03:09:04 PM
Now allowed, or not allowed?


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on February 05, 2008, 03:32:40 PM
Now allowed, or not allowed?

Not, sorry.  I should have two, but I actually have zero! :(


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Morfiend on February 05, 2008, 06:17:14 PM
I am also looking for a trial key if anyone has any spare. But only if I get to shoot at Hat.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: LK on February 06, 2008, 12:31:53 AM
I'll take a Trial Key.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: MrHat on February 06, 2008, 07:45:39 AM
I am also looking for a trial key if anyone has any spare. But only if I get to shoot at Hat.

!!!


Also, I don't think anyone has any keys :(


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on February 06, 2008, 09:26:25 AM
!!!


Also, I don't think anyone has any keys :(

Anyone who purchased the digital download won't have a key (either from Direct2Drive or from the Station store).  I petitioned in an attempt to get a key (after all, it seems like it would be in Sony's best interest to be handing out keys so they could, you know, get more customers) and they said, and I quote "Fuck you newb".

I'm thinking most of the people here downloaded the game (after all, why would any of us leave the house and drive to the store, we're posting on a message board about mmogs).  So probably there are very few, if any, buddy keys..

Stupid fucking Sony.  See schild, this is why it's retarted to be a Sony fanboi, they suck at everything they do.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: schild on February 06, 2008, 10:13:47 AM
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Stupid fucking Sony.  See schild, this is why it's retarted to be a Sony fanboi, they suck at everything they do.

I'm surprised there are buddy keys at all. It's a brand new game. They had an open beta. I feel sorry for nobody. And you're strange.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: WayAbvPar on February 06, 2008, 11:19:14 AM
It would be better to be rid of the buddy keys and trial accounts...it would certainly curtail the gold farmer spambots.

I gotta say, I am not terribly happy about the treatment of the digital download customers. We paid the same price, but got no box, no physical media, no manual, no download codes for goodies, no buddy keys... I understand the need to have a good relationship with brick and mortar retailers, but not taking care of customers who COST YOU LESS MONEY TO DELIVER YOUR PRODUCT TO seems unfair at least.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on February 06, 2008, 12:42:15 PM
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Stupid fucking Sony.  See schild, this is why it's retarted to be a Sony fanboi, they suck at everything they do.

I'm surprised there are buddy keys at all. It's a brand new game. They had an open beta. I feel sorry for nobody. And you're strange.

WoW had buddy keys at launch, they have.. how many subscribers again?

And SOE has, with all their combined games a total of.. how many subscribers again?


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: schild on February 06, 2008, 12:43:08 PM
Worst. Comparison. Ever.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on February 06, 2008, 12:48:19 PM
Worst. Comparison. Ever.

Yes, it's terrible to compare how a shitty company runs things to a successful one, since it makes the shitty company fanbois weep.  I agree.

EDIT:  Of course, the point is not that buddy keys made WoW.  It's that if you don't take a big steaming shit on your customers at every possible turn you're likely to be a more successful company.  Though I guess we'll never know, since the powers that be at SOE enjoy taking a big steaming shit on their customers more than they like making money.  Which, in a way makes me respect SOE a little, at least they know what they like.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: schild on February 06, 2008, 01:00:37 PM
I'm not seeing where the big steaming shit is.

Woo hoo.

Buddy Keys.

Meh.

There are better things to bitch and moan about.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on February 06, 2008, 01:04:08 PM
I'm not seeing where the big steaming shit is.

Of course you don't schild, of course you don't.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: MrHat on February 06, 2008, 01:26:38 PM
There are better things to bitch and moan about.

I'd love the chance to do so without dumping $50 on it.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: schild on February 06, 2008, 02:26:03 PM
You should think about games how I think about games these days.

If I need a demo to decide, I'm not going to be playing it.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: MrHat on February 06, 2008, 03:00:51 PM
You should think about games how I think about games these days.

If I need a demo to decide, I'm not going to be playing it.

I don't contain the correct level of fiscal irresponsibility to think about games the way you think about games.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: schild on February 06, 2008, 03:52:03 PM
I didn't buy Pirates.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: taolurker on February 06, 2008, 04:31:14 PM
I bought a box from a retail store, and got all the fun goodies including a Buddy Key... Too bad I gave it to an actual buddy, who also bought a box and passed his buddy key on to the other RL friend who used to be part of our EQ group in the early days.

So, it looks like all you beggars are just gonna need to go spend the price of 5-6 movies in the theater to play this game.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Slyfeind on February 06, 2008, 04:34:15 PM
I gots two keys. PMs sent to Hat and Morphiend, just because they were first who asked.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: LK on February 06, 2008, 05:27:23 PM
If you think trials and buddy keys are a bad idea, then you have a narrow view of the type of customers this game needs to appeal to, or have never run anything where a trial program can turn into a sale.

Why do you think WoW is putting so much effort into getting people into Blizzard's game faster and more efficiently?

I want to try Pirates.   I *really* do.  It might even lead to a purchase.  If I bought the game and didn't like it? It'd be spiteful towards the company and probably wouldn't pick up future products.  If I could try something out for free and didn't like? I'd be "meh", but I'd be appreciative that they have a free trial.

Open Beta as trial? Psht.  Ok, let's invite people to try our game in a pre-release state that could have possible game-wracking bugs or can't transfer their character to the live environment if they want to buy our product.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: taolurker on February 06, 2008, 05:43:17 PM
Please note: The pre-order for this game was a free trial, where you could keep your characters, it just required you paying a refundable $5-10 which you could cancel or apply toward an actual purchase.

You are 4 weeks late for this now, and the game has released.. so either buy the game, or wait patiently for a freebie offer if you don't have a buddy with a key.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: LK on February 06, 2008, 06:10:31 PM
Well I ain't begging for one.  If I get one, nice, I'll check it out.  But if none comes my way, that's one less potential customer they have.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Der Helm on February 07, 2008, 01:59:48 AM
... they said, and I quote "Fuck you newb".
:ye_gods:

also lol @ trialkeys=bad idea


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on February 07, 2008, 09:54:00 AM
... they said, and I quote "Fuck you newb".
:ye_gods:

There is a chance that my memory may be a bit hazy on the actual quote.  I may have been on my 5th rum and coke.

Maybe.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: MrHat on February 07, 2008, 09:55:53 AM
I don't understand how trial keys can be anything but good.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: WayAbvPar on February 07, 2008, 10:08:18 AM
My only concern with trial keys is making it that much easier for gold sellers to get accounts with which to spam me. They should go the WoW route and disallow trials from sending /tells to anyone without prior contact.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: SnakeCharmer on February 07, 2008, 10:17:52 AM
If anyone still needs/wants a buddy key, PM me and let me know.  I won't be able to send it to you until tonight, however.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: LK on February 07, 2008, 10:37:31 AM
My only concern with trial keys is making it that much easier for gold sellers to get accounts with which to spam me. They should go the WoW route and disallow trials from sending /tells to anyone without prior contact.

Yes, at this point the industry should be smart enough where they take appropriate counter-measures to make sure Trial Accounts aren't abused.  I'm not advocating full access Trials.  Let me play the game and see if I like it so that I can evaluate whether I want to be a customer or not.

Edit: Pfft.  I forgot I have coworkers who play.  Well, I'll ask them first.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: HaemishM on February 07, 2008, 11:45:40 AM
Yes, at this point the industry should be smart enough where they take appropriate counter-measures to make sure Trial Accounts aren't abused. 

Three words.

Sony Online Entertainment. That is all.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Morfiend on February 07, 2008, 11:47:19 AM
Three words.

Sony Online Entertainment. That is all.

That was six words.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: HaemishM on February 07, 2008, 11:48:54 AM
I knew I should have put in a line break.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: LK on February 10, 2008, 04:21:17 PM
Hmm.  Apparently my friends are living in the digital age and all bought the Downloadable version.  That doesn't come with a Trial.  And costs as much as a box copy.

Progress!


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Rondaror on February 11, 2008, 05:16:50 PM
Hmm.  Apparently my friends are living in the digital age and all bought the Downloadable version.  That doesn't come with a Trial.  And costs as much as a box copy.

Progress!

RL storage space is costly


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Azazel on March 08, 2008, 09:13:06 PM
On one hand, I don't seen schild as ever having been a SOE fanboi. On the other hand, no MMO (and only some games) get my money without some kind of trial. Even if that trial is buying it from EB games.





Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on March 09, 2008, 08:24:43 PM
On one hand, I don't seen schild as ever having been a SOE fanboi.

Wow, that is some amazing crack you are smoking.  Can you introduce me to your dealer?


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Azazel on March 10, 2008, 04:33:15 AM
As an assist for your reading comprehension:

SOE stands for Sony Online Entertainment. ie Everquest. Everquest 2. Star Wars Galaxies. Etc.

Not Sony Computer Entertainment. Those of the Playstation. That's SCE. SCEA/SCEE/SCEJ. He's the world's biggest fanboi for that arm of the company. That's not the Smedtown SOE.



Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: WayAbvPar on March 10, 2008, 11:26:47 AM
You must have missed the 100+ page thread that started when schild was exposed to the SWG NGE before it came out and declared it Robot Jesus.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Azazel on March 10, 2008, 08:58:17 PM
No, I remember that. I was pretty sure it helped him learn his lesson. Wasn't that also about 18 months ago now? I'm also not sure if it made him a SOE fanboi, or someone who was easily suckered by friendly devs. Did they fly him out to that, too, or was he in Houston for some other reason anyway?

Anyway, if he were a SOE fanboi, he'd be all over POTBS, EQ1/2, still hard for SWG, and possibly even Vanguard and MXO. I'm not seeing any of that, currently.

For fuck's sake. I'm defending schild. Please stop.



Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: LK on March 11, 2008, 03:44:56 AM
Okie dokie.  After playing Pirates of the Caribbean, I realized I wanted to play this for reals.  So I bought the game.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on March 11, 2008, 09:37:20 AM
No, I remember that. I was pretty sure it helped him learn his lesson.

It didn't.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Azazel on March 12, 2008, 03:14:22 AM
since it didn't. please to be making an elaboration of schild's "current" SOE fanboism please. with specific examples.

you know, current ones.



Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on March 12, 2008, 11:00:23 AM
since it didn't. please to be making an elaboration of schild's "current" SOE fanboism please. with specific examples.

you know, current ones.



Why?


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: schild on March 12, 2008, 12:21:16 PM
Azazel, don't feed the troll.

Once again, I did not resub to SWG, all the other people that think READING IS HARD did.

Meh, whatever. I've been over this countless times. Clean server, no lag, game handled perfectly, and even then - No CD No Sub.

The environment I wrote about was not indicative of the SWG that it was launched... into (?). Anyway, whatever, apparently people think I'm an SOE fanboi. I should stop wearing that cape that says SOE fanboi.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Azazel on March 13, 2008, 12:46:20 AM
Why?

Just to show that you're not full of shit.

You know how it goes, if you make accusations, be prepared to back them up. That kind of thing. The stuff we teach elementary schoolkids.

 :awesome_for_real:



Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on March 13, 2008, 12:22:55 PM
Just to show that you're not full of shit.

You know how it goes, if you make accusations, be prepared to back them up. That kind of thing. The stuff we teach elementary schoolkids.

 :awesome_for_real:



If you walk into a physics convention and shout "I don't believe this thermodynamics stuff, someone prove it to me" you'll get the same response I'm about to give:

Be quiet, the important people are talking.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: schild on March 13, 2008, 12:30:26 PM
I'm supposed to care enough about some guy on the internet that I should spend my time searching forums for proof of something that everyone else here already knows to be the truth?

You must spend most of your time disappointed if you really think your opinion is that important.

Actually, he's saying don't be an accusatory punk without any support to back up your claims.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on March 13, 2008, 12:31:19 PM
Actually, he's saying don't be an accusatory punk without any support to back up your claims.

I like my modified response better. :)

And, uhh.. again I'll ask:

Why?

EDIT:  And for the record, it took a month for me to troll you into a justifying your SWG review yet again, so I really do consider this to be a fail.  I'm out of practice.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Azazel on March 15, 2008, 06:04:29 AM
Cool, so a bunch of frontin' bullshit, no balls to back up your claims, a straw man, and some weak, weak smack talk.

(http://www.toadking.com/6x9=42/fail.jpg)



In other news, I'm done playing with young cevik here. But I would like to see a trial of PotBS.  :awesome_for_real:



Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Pennilenko on March 15, 2008, 04:19:51 PM

In other news, I'm done playing with young cevik here. But I would like to see a trial of PotBS.  :awesome_for_real:



Did anyone get you that key yet?


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: cevik on March 18, 2008, 07:43:35 AM
Azazel, don't feed the troll.

Once again, I did not resub to SWG, all the other people that think READING IS HARD did.

Meh, whatever. I've been over this countless times. Clean server, no lag, game handled perfectly, and even then - No CD No Sub.

The environment I wrote about was not indicative of the SWG that it was launched... into (?). Anyway, whatever, apparently people think I'm an SOE fanboi. I should stop wearing that cape that says SOE fanboi.

I failed, eh?


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: taolurker on March 29, 2008, 08:06:00 PM
Well, they actually are going to be doing a promotion where they giving more buddy keys away, and each subscribed person is going to get 3 keys to give to friends for 14 days of PotBS. link (http://www.burningsea.com/page/news/article&article_id=10706)

Also now is a good time to make lots of alts, because mid week all characters are gonna get some bonus experience items.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: Hawkbit on June 03, 2008, 03:55:03 PM
Saw this at Target in a bargin bin for $9.98, can't get a much better trial.  Not my style though, didn't pick it up.


Title: Re: Free Trial?
Post by: taolurker on June 18, 2008, 09:37:30 PM
Well, I still do enjoy this game, and actually am playing multiple classes, on different servers, enjoying it in small doses, and not grinding myself or trying to burn out... but the buddy key program and recent changes plus server merges isn't helping... So:

TADA

Free Trials coming!! (http://www.burningsea.com/pages/page.php?pageKey=news/article&article_id=10857)