f13.net

League ID:  578492
Password: supthou

12 teams max.  Same settings as the other league. 

Opening this up because it appears some of us couldn't make it into the first league without watering down the talent pool available (Nebu, Zetlef, etc). Once newcomers join (no lurkers please unless you ask first), we can open it up to the rest of the board. 

Sept 2 (Sunday) noon draft time.  Should be an easier draft with all of the training camp battles over. 

Since this is the secondary league, we can get a bit experimental with the points if people have good ideas and if it caps lower we can open up additional roster spots.  I don't want to steal the primary league's thunder, just wanted to see if some of the people that got left out want to play.   

I will wait to join until the folks that got left out get in. Holla if you need me.

Same here. When the folks who missed out on the other fun are in, I'll fill in any spots.

Count me as a third fill in. I'd definitely be in for another F13 league.

Edit:  The scoring system strongly favors QB's (6 pts for a thrown TD, only -0.25 for a sack) and defensive scoring (3pt safety, 2 points for an int or fumble recovery) .  Requiring 1 starting RB seems unusual to me as well. 

Thanks for the invitation btw!

This is how I have my scoring in another league set up.

Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, W/R, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN 

Stat Categories: Passing Yards (25 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Receptions (1)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (0)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (0)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (4)
Block Kick (2)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Points Allowed 0 points (12)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (9)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (6)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (3)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (1)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (0)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-6) 

Makes for some monster scores for the week.

Added a RB. Took away a bench slot.  Figure we won't break 10 members on this league.

I'm a career lurker but I'm in the baseball league. Can I grab a spot in the 2nd league?

Sure.

I signed in.

Decided to use something that involves my f13 name rather than my usual FF name, Dirty D-Towne Dogs

Whens ze draft or we doing some autopick crap?

Currently signed up:

ElMuffinMan
Slayerik
cmlancas
Zetleft

Nebu, you going to join up?

I'm opening this up on Wednesday to the rest of the site.  So people have time to set their prerankings in the case they cannot go to the live draft, Sunday 2pm PST.

Anyone have any thoughts on the point structure (I'm thinking of keeping the 6pts per throwing TD in place), roster structure, or league size?  10 or 12?

I would like to see a couple of tweaks in the scoring-

Fumbles/INTs should not be the same as sacks (currently both 2)

Never been a fan of negative scoring (- points for offensive INTs and fumbles)

Any way to do graduated scoring for defenses? Like shutout = 12 points, under 7 = 7, under 14=3? Something along those lines.

Points per reception- any way to apply this only to WRs/TEs? If you make it a PPR and exclude RBs it makes for a much more interesting and fair draft. Suddenly the top WRs are right up there with the 2nd tier of RBs instead of  the first 25 picks being 20 RBs, 4 QBs and a WR.

Sacks set to 1. 

Don't know how the hell that was at 2.  Doesn't look like you can tweak receptions base on position. 

I'll play if there's a live draft that I can fit in my schedule.  If it's a list draft, I think I'll pass. I'll try to take a look this afternoon... first day of classes and all.

It's a live draft for those that can attend. If you cannot attend, your picks are automated.

Sept 2. Noon in case anyone is still unsure of the time.

Classes on the Sunday before Labor Day? Are you non-US?

I posted on Aug 27th which was the first day of classes for me.  I was stating this because I was too busy to take a look at the draft date, time, and type... which I now see is Sept 2nd. 

Clearer?

Haem, Way, murdoc: go ahead and sign up if you want to.

In.

Let me know if you guys are comfortable w/ the number of peeps.

I tend to get a bit confused w/ more than one team running, but if you want another to even out or whatever, let me know.

IN

Registered. 

OK, if anyone still needs to join and isn't in either league yet, let me know soon.  Otherwise I'm opening the last two roster spots to anyone that would like to join.

I'm in. Maybe I should bother to set up my auto drafting list.

Ok, I jumped in, I'm not in pool yet this year.

Alright, we're full.  Commence with the unreasonable requests.

Please let LT slip to my draft position.  Thanks!

Hereby move for the addition of a third-chance league...

 :roffle: Talk someone into dropping off for you. I'm not expanding the league size.

12 people wouldn't be bad.  Would separate the men from the boys in the later draft rounds. 

If that's what folks want, I can bump it to 12.   Just as long as El Gallo manages to sign up this time.  :roll:

I'd be fine with 12 if it were to let El Gallo and another old-timer in.  Maybe his entrance can be contingent on finding one more board regular?

I can give up my spot since this is my 4th Yahoo team.

No way man, the Bandwagon has almost as storied a WT/f13 ffl history as the Roosters.  Besides, the main reason to play is to beat on fogies like you.  If another fogie is up for the losers league and people already in are cool, I'm in.  If not, I'll live, I have another league to give myself an excuse to watch the 4pm and night games in addition to the Steelers...

Blah, I'll open it up to 12.  Sign up, chicken man.

Now, opinions on removing the second RB or are we good?

Wuwu, I'll be sure to make you regret this  :inluv:

Keep the 2nd RB.  With all the teams using RB's in a committee it shouldn't be an issue.  It will also keep the waiver wire active and force a few people to handcuff their draft. 

Need one more person to join before Sunday.  First come, first served.

Still need someone to add or someone to drop off.  I'm not going into this draft with an odd number of people.  Get this done before Sunday or I take measures into my own hands.   :angryfist:

Muaahaha I lurked my way into this laegue the exact moment I had doubts about the Morlocks one, and missed the Grimwell one.

The lurkers is ready to dominate... lol

Looks like you also landed the 3 pick.  Good luck this seasoin (and be nice to me!)

First pick in this league and last pick in the other.   :-P

I thought I came out really well in the draft, but then I saw Rasix's squad. I don't feel so peachy anymore.

I actually ended up with an interesting team considering it was all autodrafted. I can't complain about getting Larry Johnson 6th, training camp or not. Not too sure about Moss this year, but you never know. I also like that I got Hasselback in the 6th round. Not sure why the AI waited 6 rounds to draft a QB, but I'm fine with getting a guy on one of teams I regularly watch (we get Seattle's local channels).

If anyone isn't too happy with his/her defense and wants to offload a #2 WR, hit me up :)

My draft was a disaster.  I made some serious mistakes and will be lucky to finish in the top 10.  I'll have to see what I can scavenge from the waiver wire this year.

I totally spaced the draft. Luckily I had pre-ranked 150 players, so my team isn't a total disaster. Pretty sure I could have done a lot better live, however.

I am pretty happy with my draft.  Parker and McGehee are a better RB tandem than I though I'd get picking at 11 and 14.  Of course, Willis will get hurt soon.

I like the shorter benches, makes a lot easier on autodrafters to fix up their reserves and makes the waiver wire more important.

Butkicking for goodness!

Hehe. I picked up a few other guys off the waiver wire, but I am interested to see how much of a sleeper Cadillac Williams will be. If Jeff Garcia can do a little something for the Buccaneers, Williams will be a force.

My RB's don't thrill me, but I think my wideout tandem of Wayne and Boldin, combined with Brees as my QB will be enough to see me in contention. Maybe Chunk will pick it up for the Titans and actually become a viable RB.

Nah.

Other than having the Madden curse candidate as my Quarterback, I'll also reasonably happy with the team I have, and it should at least be interesting matchups against my team (and not total blowouts).

Good Luck to everyone, and remember the first game this week is Thursday (TONIGHT), so make sure to do any moves, trades or shopping of the waivers before tonight because it may not allow them to go through after the games start. There might be a team that dosen't field a kicker week 1 if someone doesn't (Drunks on Grass?) .

I really like the shorter benches. I run a league with some buddies for $$ that uses QB, WR, WR, RB, RB, W/R, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN and the shorter bench makes the waiver wire a viable option for bye weeks and seems to increase the amount of trades that occur.

FINALLY FOOTBALL SEASON STARTS TONIGHT WOOOOOO

Depending on what happens in Washington, my team could go from good to face-melting awesomeness.  Betts produced when he was starting in Washington last year, which is more than dog fighting enthusiast Portis and his gimpy shoulder can claim.

My starting WRs are money. My running back tandem is solid as long as James doesn't slide further. Donovan hopefully stays healthy.  And somehow I still managed to snag Baltimore's D and Heap.   I will hurt people this season unless I really get bit hard by the injury bug.

I like my team a lot better than my primary FF league team.  Which likely means that this one will suck horribly and I'll win that league.  :-P

Not that my opinion carries much weight, but I think you had the best draft.  If McNabb stays healthy and Portis goes down early, you're going to be a monster.  The only thing I see holding you back is the injury bug. 

 

Hey wait! Portis isn't going down early! ><


Rasix, I think you're going to smoke me in week one unless LT has a falling off against Chi-town.

I'm afraid of this Colts/Saints game.

LOL Addai just got creamed. 

And OMG did my heart stop (because I took him as the third pick in this league).

However, he's back in and rushing up a storm.

So far Marvin Harrison scoring one TD already has me liking my fantasy team.

GO COLTS.  =D

Mare almost hit that 52 yarder. I would've felt a lot better about keeping him had that happened. :)


Manning way overthrew that receiver -- if he hit him, he was gone for a huge score.

OK. Peyton can cut this out any second now.   :angryfist: That's some awesome corner play there, Jason David.

Edit: LOL @ Drew Brees.

<3 <3 <3. He almost got 30! :D


Edit: In response to Rasix: QB: Drew Brees (NO - QB) @Ind    L, 41-10    14.79    3.53  Ouch.

Ouch, Tao has both Joseph Addai and Marvin Harrison so he's already out to a 30+ point lead with only one game played. Luckily the rest of his team doesn't have the best matchups this week.

Fuck me, but did Drew Brees smoke the big fat pole last night. According to Madden, it was because of the Cover 2 but I'm not convinced. I think that Payton forgot the running game too early, just like in the NFC Championship last year. Or more precisely, he got too goddamn cute with the running game too soon. He ran WAY too many draws on 3rd down, and eventually, the Colts' DE's just gobbled it up. They need to teach Bush to do some traditional type of runs, AND give Deuce more pounding runs up the middle and off the end. Payton's just trying to be way too cute with the run game.

If it hadn't been for Reggie Wayne, I'd already be sucking hind tit. I told you that motherfucker was money. Addai is going to be a fucking fantasy monster this year, so long as he doesn't get hurt. And the Colts just might well win the whole damn thing again this year. I certainly picked up the Colts' D as a backup.

Woot, after the head to head battle of NO running backs, I'm winning by one point!!

I was disappointed too in the poor showing with the Saints -- I thought Mare was a steal considering that NO scored a shitton of points last year.


Shows what I know.

i wouldn't give up on NO quite yet. Brees had a couple of meh games last year that got me pretty much zero points. If the Bucs dominate them next week, then you can count the Saints out ;)

I'd give up on NO if I were you. 

Oh, I'll be happy to trade for Brees btw  :evil:

I'm in the market for a #2 RB/WR if anyone is interested :D C'mon, I have Eli Manning! Who knows how many INTs he can throw? Maybe you can get negative points from your #1 QB this year!

I think Randy Moss just won me my first round matchup... (157y 1TD, early third quarter)

Beyond that, I am officialy pissed off at whatever Fox network buffoon has decided we would rather watch Oakland play Detroit, instead of Chicago vs SD. Seriously, what the fuck?

All I know is that the Jets D didn't even show up today, even though Coles is still money as a WR. Probably didn't help that I cursed their Defense thinking they were gonna eat the Pats O-line for lunch.  Even worse is that Chad Pennington may be hurt, but he wasn't on my fantasy team. Looks like another bad year for the NY JETS.  :cry:  :|

Even with the negative pts from my Defense, I'm still gonna crush Murdoc's team though.

Looks like Chi-Town might have LT's number. That definitely helps things quite a bit.


How in the hell does my #2 WR get 0 points today? ><

Edit: LT rushed for 25 yards and threw for one TD and scored one. He earned 25 points. Boggle ><

That Chargers/Bears game was a fucking weird one. I was right about San Diego's defense though, against Chicago they were killer. Grossman to Griese QB Clock is ticking. 

Fucking Romo. Tony Fucking Romo. That cocksucker just killed me in the JV league. Unless the combination of Boldin, Vernon Davis and Rudi Johnson score over 50 points, I'm officially fucked. If you watched that Giants/Cowboys game, you saw probably the worst fucking defense on the planet. The Giants' safeties might as well have not even been on the fucking field. Romo did not do that well, he just happened to be given such a soft, gooey center of the field he gorged himself. Whoever had Jason Witten should build a shrine to Gibril Wilson's craptaculosity. If Coughlin isn't fired by mid-season, it'll only be because the GM doesn't think it'll do any good. The Cowboys' D wasn't much better, letting Eli throw deep on them all night. If the Giants had been able to muster ANY KIND of defense against the pass, the G-men might have won. Holy fuck, was that a bad game.

The Packers/Eagles game was WHACKED. I don't think I've ever seen such a sorry display of special teams in my fucking life as I saw the Eagles put on. How sad is it that you replace your punt returner because he keeps trying to catch the ball with 16 Packers around him, only to have his replacement do the SAME SHIT and lose them them game because of it. Also, Mike McCarthy, LEARN2RUNPLZKTHX. You drafted a fucking running back in the first round, USE HIM YOU ASSHOLE. Brandon Jackson should have had twice as many carries, because that would have been half as many times that Brett Favre would have had someone in his face forcing him to throw the ball as if he was blindfolded. Seriously, Favre is uncoachable at this point in his career. He will not throw the ball out of bounds when pressured. STOP MAKING HIM THROW 40 TIMES A GAME. Brett needs to be on a 30 attempts/per game leash unless you are down by two touchdowns. Your O-Line cannot pass protect worth a shit, and your rookie backs are worse than that. I swear, I had three conniptions watching that game.

Well, my boys played like fucking ass except my tight end (Witten).  My #1 RB and K played on teams scoring a total of 72 points and still got me only 18 total.  WTF.  Against a mere mortal, a big showing by my Monday night trio of Leinhart, Fitzgerald and McGehee might eek out a win, but Slay layed down a 131 point smackdown.  I don't think they'll come up with the 75 points I need  :cry:

In better news, it was nice to annihilate the Browns.

Ocho Cinco + Todd Heap + Edge + Rackers + Baltimore D to go.  I think I'll get the 40 points I need to pull this one off, but who knows, stranger things have happened.  I have a feeling that Andre Johnson is going to be gold all season.  And never, ever doubt the ability of LT to get all of his fantasy points in one way or another:  76 rush/rec yards, 5 catches, 1 rushing TD, 1 passing TD, 17 passing yards.   :-D  It looks like my Betts gamble isn't going to pay off (Portis looks good) and my bench didn't do a whole lot this week.   :|

The end of that Denver game was amazing.  That's probably the best special teams play I've ever seen.  Maybe Elam needs to start kicking all of his field goals like that.

Anyone know why Fox didn't even air a 1pm game in New York and opted for a "Fall Season Preview" bullshit? Terry and Howie even talked about a doubleheader but I didn't get no doubleheader. The Eagles v Packers game would have made sense, even if it would have been painful for me to watch.

If anyone is interested in Eli after his decent showing in week one (he outscored Peyton!), I desperately need a #2 RB. The gamble on Cadillac definitely didn't pay off.


Oh yeah, and Rasix totally smoked me this game.

I'm an actually Bucs fan and I wouldn't have taken that gamble ;)

Stupid Tao is gonna beat me, even though I forcast his J-E-T-S negative points.

The team released after the game that he wasn't wearing the pads he was supposed to be wearing on his ribs!


I think he'll be better later in the season, but I picked up Jason Ward off the waiver wire. He looked pretty darn good against Dallas and he'll definitely get a ton of carries to hopefully open up Eli's passing game.

Thank you Tony Romo, my faith was not in vain  [fontsize=10]at least this week[/font] but damn that dallas secondary had me screaming at the tv.  It's gonna be another long heart attack season if they can't cover the deep pass better then that.

My rookie RB duo of Lynch and Peterson seems to have paid off so far as they combined for about 40 points.  Good thing since the only thing Steven Jackson did was fumble the damn ball.  In other news as excepted my WR core is shit.  With haem and 3 guys points unaccounted for it should be close but hopefully I can pull this out and not regret picking up a kicker.... yeah I'll get one sometime :p

Actually, I think that my prediction was waaay closer to the way it should have been, if New England wasn't cheating (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3012989).

I also could've easily destroyed if I had put Delhomme (with his bad shoulder) in for 25pts, instead of the Madden curse candidate Young for 9pts.

Yeah, well, if I had played DeShaun Foster I would have had 3.10 more points!

and still would've lost by 19 or so points.

Nothing gets by you.

Kneel before my WR tandem.

Why did I sit Cadillac Williams? Oh yeah, thats because I thought NO was worth a damn.


On the other hand, go BUCS!

DAMMIT, I was out of town all day and actually missed them winning a game, and winning big.

Not having live update blows. I really think I might shell out the $9.99, but I hate the moneyhattery.

I bought StatTracker.  It's a necessity unfortunately.

Lol, I improved by over 20 pts from last week, and I'm currently winning. I just need Washington to score over 35 points against Philly tonight to hold on...

Anybody want Drew Brees? FUCKING FUCKITY FUCK FUCK. That asshead is killing me in both leagues. Not that Philip Rivers would have helped me any this week. I knew Favre against that SHITTY SHIT SHIT SHIT Giants D would get big points. Man, the Giants suck it this year, as I knew they would.

Also, the Rams suck. I just thought I'd add that because I like it when the Rams suck.

In the first two weeks, my team has proven that it can get 82 points lose, and 135 points and lose.  I am well on my way to 0-12!  I demand a recount on Carson Palmer's score.  There's no way it can be legal to lose to the Browns and still get 48 points.

My kicker has a whopping four points over two weeks. That's not so bad compared to Reggie Brown, who is the BIGGEST FLOP EVER with 3.6 points over two weeks as the #1 option in Philly.


Awesome.

There is no #1 option in Philly. You should know that by now. Westbrook is the #1 option for receptions. Avant is a better choice than Reggie Brown.

Brown was open for a TD last night, but McNabb missed him way high.

My team in this league is TERRIBLE. I'll be at the bottom of the standings all year. Palmer is going to keep me competitive in the other F13 league however, since he'll be throwing like a madman to try and keep up with the scoring that will occur against that terrible Bengals D.

Luckily McNabb's points have just been window dressing for me.  Without Andre Johnson is my team is looking a bit shakey, as the Ladell Betts experiment isn't panning out very well.  LT is looking awful this year so far and it won't get better against the Pack.

Good time for a major injury going up against the only person that scored more points than me last week.

Bleh, in both leagues I may end up being served by benching my starting QBs and putting in Shaubinator and the lesser Manning.  McNabb's skills seem to be on a down swing.

I'm plenty satisfied with my QB situation.  It's RB that concerns me.  My record at this point is nothing more than dumb luck. 

How did that work out for you ;)

Just glad Washington missed on their last scoring opportunities.  And since we are talking about teams without a #1 receiver I can't believe Braylon Edwards was my highest scorer this week with 30, thank you Derek Anderson. 

Yea, that was a screwed up week. Losing because Cinci decided to let the fucking Browns score 300 points kind of sucks, but that's how it goes.

The most annoying thing, is that every other matchup this week in this league was a blow out, and I have to lose on Monday night by 3 points.

Ok, that's awesome. I have more points right now than both participants in the Murdoc vs Kilt game combined. Negative points for a QB!?!

I should have stuck with one F13 team, since this one is an epic fail.

Yeah, I saw that. What the fuck is wrong with the goddamn Rams? Jackson gets 100 yards rushing and yet Bulger lays an egg like that? It's like the Rams have completely forgotten how to play in all phases of the game. I don't even need Brees's points in this league. I even voted for Murdoc to beat me silly, but again, who knew?

Shit, for that matter, who expected Boldin to get a 37 point week against BALTIMORE? If I would have thought I'd have to rely on his points this week, I would have sworn I'd be fucked. Yesterday was just about the weirdest Sunday in football I've ever seen.

The Rams at 0-3 is definitely among the highlights for me this season. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA.

I benched Westbrook and McNabb in my other league this week due to their lackluster weeks 1 & 2.  i r smrt

I'm going to lose this week unless someone murders Deuce prior to the game. Betts is a lost cause (oh well) and Andre's injury didn't help me much.  LT continues to be a big disappointment.  I really need to get a better flex player. My bench is WEAK.

Ouch. Westbrook should play every week. McNabb got lucky against a highly questionable defense. Sell high now and get some value from him before he inevitably snaps something.

Oh fuck me, my matchup next week is BRUTAL. Nebu's QB is Brady against the goddamn Bengals D.

I'm fucked.

I have Eli Manning on my bench and I'm looking for a #2 WR/RB. Let me know if I can help you out. Brees/Bulger are bigtime flops, and at least Manning seems to be comfortable throwing to Shockey/Toomer/Burress and occasionally Ward.

Right now Reggie Brown is killing me. He has 9 points in three weeks. I think I want to stab myself.

Well, that worked out.  Sorry Deuce.

Well, Deuce didn't get murdered before the game but I sure am considering doing it myself after the game.

Fuck me. .65 points for Brees.

Yes, I need a new #1. At least in this league I have Phillip Rivers, who isn't having a great season, but is at least managing not to throw 4 INT's in a goddamn game. I am SO FUCKED next week.

I'll trade Roethlisberger for a competent RB.  If anyone is interested.

I'll offer up Lendale White if you consider him competent.

I still got Pennington as trade bait.... oh how you all scoffed at me on draft day and hes hurt and still doing better then brees :D

Unfortunately I smarted myself out of a win by benching 2 players I should have kept in the night before the games.... I really shouldn't even look at that stuff when I've been drinking.  In my defense though Dallas Clark was listed as Questionable at the time.... fucker.  My gamble of actually using a Raider was just inexcusable though and I've paid the price.

Careful what you wish for (he's out for the season. Yay Reggie!)

I had forgotten the sweet taste of la victoire.  Thank you Roy Williams and LaMont.  Hopefully, Parker vs the Cardinals and McGahee vs the Browns will get the Roosters to 500 for the first time in about 3 years.

 

I think this week I'll be money. Cadillac Williams is only projected 8 points and with Haem's trade I think I'm going to finally not suck with WRs.


Also, how the hell was the league leader in points for kickers on the waiver wire? Go Steelers!

Oh my god I can't stop laughing. I just looked at the matchups and thought Wow, the Kilt waivers did pretty good, only being ten points behind league leading Nebu. Then I looked and realized that the Kilt's have 55 points from all 9 players. Nebu has 65 points from 5 players. He has 4 more playing tomorrow.

Congrats to Mark Bulger for reaching positive points this week. Barely.

(not trying to rub it in, just laughing because when I designated my pick list for the draft - Bulger was the only player I put on my "Do not draft" list.)

Wuwu, back to .500.  Nice to finally see a game where pretty much everyone on my team does decently.

I cannot believe how horribly I'm mismanaging my team. You had better intel than me, since I was pretty happy to add Bulger to my team.

ughhhh

1-3. Fuck me to tears.

This was just a horrible week for  me in regards to football.  Loss in both leagues.  Donovan McNabb is nothing without his safety blanket Westbrook.  At least if he did SOMETHING this week, I'd have a chance if Ocho Cinco went bananas. Baltimore's D is fucking pathetic: way to get pasted (same to you Denver). At least my pickups for this week did something.  Other league was worse.. major injury concerns where 3 of my starters didn't play this week and one I had left in the lineup because HE PLAYED LAST WEEK WITH THE SAME THING. And unrelated to that, fuck Brandon Stokely. 

I also lose badly in my picks league (not here)  this week.  I think I was under 50% and now I've dropped back into a tie for the for the overall lead.  This is for money.  :sad_panda:

edit: at least UofA destroyed WSU.  That made me happy. 

And those remaining players? THEY ARE PATRIOTS PLAYERS, against the fucking Bengals defense at that.

No, I knew this weekend was a lost cause.

EDIT: McNabb looked like Bledsoe back there last night. Did he forgot HOW to scramble, or is his knee bothering him?

He is out of Chunky.

Dante Culpepper was a stud this week.  This is the second sign of the apocolypse.

Give him a week or two and he'll slide back into mediocrity. 

Williams went down with a season ending knee injury. Great. Double down the pain for me, considering I am a TB fan. Williams looked really, really good too on Sunday.


I think my fantasy team is dead in the water now. Holt can't catch TDs because Bulger can't pass his way out of a paper bag, and Reggie Brown was a huge flop. The only thing I have going for me is Portis/Manning.


Fuck me with a wooden spork.

That Cadillac knee injury looked PAINFUL. I'm not surprised he's out for the season.

I knew he was going to get hurt sometime this year, that's why I picked up his backup a few days ago, but damn I sure didn't see that.  Looked horrible.  Hope he is back next season but hard to say with that injury, doubt he will be the same. 

And yes you got stomped Rasix, bow before the ROMO. 

I'm not sure how you can "bet on" a season (possibly career) ending patella ligament injury.

Anyway, you should've picked up Pittman. He gets more carries, even though Graham had better numbers when Williams went down.

He'll get more touchdowns the Pittman.  Kinda like the Julius / Barber relationship. 

Really? I know that he got the touches in the game Williams was out, but I always pictured Pittman as the power runner. Perhaps I was wrong.

Then again, I've only been watching the Bucs play since Wyche was coaching.


I'd wager most of you don't even know who the hell Sam Wyche is.

I'd wager that you'd be wrong.

QB for the Bengals 1968 - 1970.  If I'm not mistaken, he was the first to use the no-huddle offense as a defensive disruption rather that just for hurry-up. 

My pride, and e-peen have effectively been reduced to nothing.

Well played, sirs.


On another note, my fantasy team blows hardcore.

0-4, baby!

He also coached for several years and was famous for melting down in his press conferences and on the sidelines, if memory serves. And he was a mediocre to bad color commentator for a few years after that.

If I'm not mistaken, his last NFL job was QB coach for the Bills sometime in the last couple of years.

Next, cmlancas can tell us about a one-time Bucs QB you might not have heard of, Steve Young. :p

YOU DON'T LIVE IN CLEVELAND, YOU LIVE IN CINCINNATI.

I'm picked for 120 points this week. I think that means I'll get 80. I've been producing at about 75% efficiency.

I predict a loss for the N00bs this week.  I'm not at all happy with my team nor my matchups.

What the heck are you looking for? Should that be in green? ><

I'm not looking for anything.  I'm just saying that I don't like my team this week.  Is there something wrong with an objective self-analysis?   

Nah, I'm just desperately trying to find people to fill in for the Cadillac injury. Also, my pride hurts going 0-4. :)

I had to scavenge Strecker and Morris from the free agent market to replace Chester Taylor and Brandon Jacobs.  I understand your pain.

FYI: If anyone needs a RB, I'd consider Selvin Young of the Broncos. 

If you check the news, you'll see why.

Yeah seen him running since UT.  Explosive player I wanted on my team since before the Travis Henry news just cause you know he is gonna break out at some point.  Could never find the room for him, pity but I'm flush with running backs anyway. 

No doubt tony's game cost me the win tongiight but I don't give a fuck, what a fucking game.   God damn I love football. 

I was finally able to hang on to win one after being projected to score 125 and missing by 25 :/

Par for the course, though. :)

Manning and Brandon Jacobs out next week? I may as well give this one away.

The chickens have come all the way back to the 3-2 roost and get a shot at the Noobs this week.  Lots of byes for both, hopefully Mo is still wearing a comb.

My entire bench and one extra player are on bye.  I'm going to have to eat a 0 at one position, so I like your chances.

You are no longer allowed to speak.

Drew Brees! Hell yeah my man. I only needed you for one game this year, but tear those 'Hawks up!

OMFGWTFBBQ???!!?!?!?

All I need is Michael Jenkins to get 8 points tonight, and I win. How the fuck that is, I don't even know.

Thank you Adrian Peterson  :heart:

It's called, I didn't have a Defense on my bench and Pittsburgh is on a bye week + I didn't know Branch wasn't going to play. :)

Also, you only win if Jenkins gets 8 points MORE than Brandon Jacobs scores for me. Best of luck though.

Oh, bollocks, I didn't see Jacobs there.

I'm fooked.

Why not pick up a scrub defense for the week?


Don't worry, H- Jacobs will sprain his labia in the first quarter.

The honest truth? I kinda figured I could beat Haem without one.

Heh, I would have picked up more points playing Reuben Droughns over Jacobs. I ended up with two backs on my bench getting 15 and 20 points this week.

I might just not win a single week this year. This is easily the worst FF team I have ever had.

 :nda:

Yeah, I mean the Giants D may suck, but the Falcons offense sucks even worse. It was a forlorn hope at best, considering he would have had to get a TD to even have a chance. The Falcons haven't done too much of that.

Shockey and Ward combined for 18. I was surprised.

Thanks for Brees, Haem :D


Edit: If anyone could use Mr. Brees, I'd be happy to trade him. I'm looking for a good swing man, so pop me a PM.

Hey, you can keep Brees. It's going to take more than one good performance for him to win back my trust.

Jesus.  Having Tom Brady throw me down and make me his bitch was not nearly so pleasant as I had been led to believe from those dreamy eyes.  Maybe if he hadn't brought Wes Wekler, TJ Houshmandzadeh and Tony Gonzalez along for the ride it would have been more intimate.

Time to get things back on track next week vs the skirt-wavers.

Tom Brady has now entered the realm of the ridiculous.

Brees puts up another righteous performance -- I need a nice RB! I know someone out there is hurting from Leinart sucking it up :)

He came close to beating some of the teams in our league all by himself this week. My best friend is a Dolphins fan. We had him on suicide watch during that game.

To be fair, the Dolphins REALLY REALLY SUCK. I hope the Pats don't play the Rams this year, because I don't want to see Brady get 7 TD's in a game by the half. New England really is playing at a different level than everyone else. I expect them to beat Washington next week, and MAYBE lose to the Colts, though that game is such a tossup right now. The toughest games they have left on the schedule are Indy, Baltimore, Washington and the Giants. They'll blowout the Giants D, and neither Washington or Baltimore have the offense to run with the Pats.

15-1? 14-2? 16-0? I think any one of those records is possible.

Even though I have him in the other F13 league, I am actively rooting for Brady's demise or at least a gruesome injury (maybe a headon collision with his smarmy cocksucker of a head coach). I have had my fucking fill of Patriots fans and their self-righteous indignation when people mention their favorite team FUCKING CHEATED.

I'd join you on wishing him ill, but my season is pretty much dependant on him getting the ball to Moss and Watson, so I won't.

Well, Moss got you 26 pts this week vs my quarterback gimped team.. Damn you Jake Delhomme for getting injured. Laverneus Coles is still money even with my crappy Jets team doing so horribly. 29 pts for Coles, damn he just needs a team to back him up.

I doubt that Addai and Harrison will make up the 50 pts I need to win tonight, but it's not beyond possibility. Knew I'd need a stellar Monday night, but 50 pts? LOL

BTW as a Jets fan, and the Pats are in their division and cheated against my team, I also hope there'll be a complete meltdown or serious injuries for the Patriots.

Cmlancas, your email frightens and intrigues me. Frightening in the fact that I think you may be trying to pick my 0-7 carcass clean with your waiver wire pickups, intrigues me because I WANT TO WIN AT LEAST ONE FUCKING GODDAMN GAME THIS YEAR.

Send me an offer or two.

Go Go Reggie Waynebot! Somehow, without scoring a TD, he and the Indy defense won me this week's game. Ph3ar.

Jesus!  I didn't even check the score until just now (did not see the game last night).  Going into Monday night I was up by 24 with Gerrard vs Wayne and the Colts D and thought I was pretty safe -- outscored 34-3  :cry:  Clinging to the last playoff spot with a tough game vs the Bunk crew, 4 byes and an injury.  This is where legends or made (or where the Roosters slink off into mediocrity).

I saw someone proposed me a trade in my spam box, but I didn't notice what it was. Did it get cancelled or something?


I'm still in the market for a RB/WR option. I've got a bunch of people to deal (Brees/Berrian/Marshall) and am actively looking to make a move or two. Let me know if I can fill your holes  :awesome_for_real:

This could be entertaining, as I have 4 byes as well. Go, go, waiver wire QB! My win streak must prevail!

That was me, I was actually considering a different trade than the one you proposed for Brees, but then I saw a QB on the waiver wire that I could snatch instead of losing one of the decent players I do have... Sorry about that.

Ronnie Brown injury was a massive dump on an otherwise good season. And his backup was gone before I could snag em :(

I would hazard that not owning Miami Dolphins players is a coup this season.

<--- Winner winner chicken dinner.

:D

To be fair though, Cadillac already is done for the season (career?!) and I never really got a replacement. It's no small feat that with Cadillac, Reggie Brown, and Torry Holt all under performing that I am 3-4.
I'm up against the Brady machine this week though.

Well, that figures. Pats score over 50 and Moss has his lowest points for me this seacon. His only TD was on a trick play.

Hoooleeeeyyyy shit. I might actually win this week.

Some people would be happy to have a receiver that gets an "only TD" every week.

I win my Romo bye week even with Penningham getting benched half way through.  Fucker waits till the one week I need him to do that.  Congrats on the probably win Murdoc, it would not be as fun beating you in a few weeks if you didn't have at least one victory.   :awesome_for_real:

Considering that I had Dante and one of Dante's recievers playing, my entire week pretty much was riding on Moss and Watson. Moss had his worst week of the season and Watson didn't play. Oh, well, bad bye week is over.

Hilarious. I should've played Brees over Manning. Who would've thought?

I'm still shopping Brees though. I need a RB because it appears that Washington's offensive line is on permanent hiatus forever.

I see some of you out there have some half-decent RB's on your bench, hit me up!

Tough to have Parker vs the Ravens D and McGehee vs the Steelers D, but I probably should have thought about that on draft day.  Hopefully THE GAME OF ALL TIME!!!1! will result in a lot of field goals for my main man Gostkowski!

Scored 150+ and am still going to lose tonight if Derrick Mason does anything. This team is fucking cursed.

Jesus, Cutler you pussy.  Roy Williams, how to you get 5 points when your team puts up 44?!?!  Unless Willie Parker erases Adrian Peterson from the record book tonight against the Ravens D, the Roosters will be back on the wrong side of .500  :cry:

I'm still sweating, if he gets his usual 70 or so yards game I win, but anything can happen.  Just wish I had Jennings and his 22 points in there though, don't want to rely on the Ravens passing game :p

Edit:  Jesus Christ the Ravens offense is inept.... I will never start one of their players again.

Well this stinks.  Last week Mason just had to get 7 points on Monday night for me to win and I fall half a point short and lost.  Adrian Peterson gets me 50 points and I still lose to the only team who could have beaten me that week, I think.  And now this week I have 2 players that get 0 points and Peterson is hurt and I can lose on Monday night if Bobby Engram gets 6 points for my opponent.  The worse part is its to that basement dwelling Murdoc  :uhrr:

I hate to tell you this Zet, but you are doomed. With Alexander and Branch out, Engram is going to catch a ton of balls. Unless the weather interferes- storm blowing through now with winds up to 60 mph and some rain, but it SHOULD be past by the time the game kicks off. God I am glad I am not going to this one- went to the SF MNF game last year, got soaked to the fucking skin, then watched Frank Gore cockstab the entire defense in the 4th quarter.

I'm going to lose this week.  That has to make a few of you happy.

It would make me happier if I could catch a game on you, but like Way says no way in the hell that's happening unless Engram's ass gets electrocuted before game time.   Guess this is what a second half slump feels like.

Damn. Harrison didn't even play, the Giants D decided to single cover TO, and the wrong Manning showed up on Sunday night and I still nailed 113 points. Sweet.

Well, that was ugly - three WRs combined for 6.2 points.

 :awesome_for_real:

Second highest score for the week nets me the loss.  Awesome.

I'd say I'd get you back in the playoffs but we both know that's not happening this time.

Always next year Canuck   :-P

2 Victories. I can go the rest of the year without winning, since I  beat Zetleft. It was like my personal Superbowl.

 :awesome_for_real:

Damn Dallas Clark and Longwell to hell..... TO HELL I SAY.

I would like to do some dealings for a #1 WR. I have a #1 RB and a #1 WR to offload. I also have other assorted #2 options for Houston and Denver. Let me know if you are interested. You only have until Friday, FYI.

Chickens behind the 8-ball and probably need to run the table to sneak in to the playoffs.  Hopefully Warner and Larry Fitz can jack up the Bengals D, Browns-style (how odd does that sound?) to lead us to glorious victory over the pantaloons.

Also, this is where I pout because I am #3 in points but #10 in standings (I VASTLY prefer the H2H system vs points, this is just cathartic whining)

Good luck. My point total is severely gimped this week and I really think I'll score closer to 130-140. Watch out for Ryan Grant, baby!

 :awesome_for_real:

Both my leagues suffered from an infusion of MEH this weekend. I finally found a good QB (Schaub) but Reggie Wayne got stymied. Unless Chunky White scores 30 more points than Selvin Young tonight, my season in this league is pretty much done.

Well, that was fun. I got busy on the weekend and forgot to check my lineup. Played Curry instead of Moss (who had a bye last week) and lost because of it. S'ok. I'll just claim I was trying to give everyone a chance to catchup so that the humiliation of my crushing victories over everyone later will be all that much more sweet.

 :uhrr:

Way to go Baltimore.   :awesome_for_real:

I got the expected Dickslapping. Even with Romo having an average game, everybody else on the Drunks team had a better game. My season is over in this league.

Feels nice putting up that many points with both my #1 and #2 running backs hurt too  :grin:

Say hello to Murdoc for me.   

Slay's Savages 129.47
Roosters 129.56

I feel your pain, man.  I really do.

I think I am going to make it in this week -- the Broncos play Oakland and I look for Marshall to have a monster day. Also, Holt is playing against Atlanta. If Green Bay can run the ball effectively with Ryan Grant, or if Andre Hall gets the start against Oakland as well, I think I'm in.

God forbid if Harrison finally gets some touches. Rawr.

 :awesome_for_real:

Pretty exciting weekend coming up in this league.  Last week of the regular season and 6 6-6 teams are vying for 3 playoff spots.  The 5-7 kilties are not totally out either, but would need a truly epic game.  Four of the 6 are playing each other, but the winners aren't automaticaly in and the losers aren't automatically out because everyone is so close in points.

Roosters have the 8-4 Invalids, who already have a spot locked up.  They probably should be resting their starters for the playoffs, right?  :wink:

This 5-7 fucker is right out. I'm 300 points behind the closest 6-6 team. No way I'll score 300 points MORE than any of those guys.

More like it's time for you to get steamrolled. :D GO PACK!

As of halftime in the 1:00 games, I'm at 90 points. I think I'm in :D

I started 1-5 too! :D

Thank God this travesty of a season is officially over for me.

Same here. QB just killed me in both leagues this year.

I must credit all of my success this year to winning the QB lottery.  I stated before the draft and will say again that allowing 6 points for a thrown TD is a mistake.  It gives the top tier QB's too much value relative to other positions.

That's my achilles heel every year in these leagues so this one has been a nice change.   :heart: Romo :heart:

First round bye is huge for the Noobs.  The Steelers might hold Brady to non-obscene numbers this week.  Bur during the playoff rounds Nebu will be playing, Brady gets to dine on the Jets and Dolphins.   :ye_gods:

Looks like I win the right to take on the Noobs next week.  I'm sure Brady and the Pats won't run up the score against the Jets, right guys?

Fucking Cowboys.  What the hell is with that goddamn Herculean effort from Barber and Whitten.  Jerks. Half my team didn't put forth an A+ effort.  Cardinals falling way behind early didn't help much either.

Ohh well, at least LT finally starting showing his worth toward the end of the season.

I'd rather take the Noobs than DOG; his lineup is stacked moreso than the Brady machine.  :uhrr:

Oh I don't know about that, I would have been stomped this week if it wasn't for the bye week.   Thank god for small favors :grin:

Edit:  Weird H2H season number 1 and 2 in the standings are 1 and 2 in point totals as well.  That usually doesn't happen on our leagues here.

J. E. T. S. JETS JETS JETS!

I stand by what I saidl.  :oh_i_see:

This point output would have been useful LAST WEEK. Gyah.

Have I ever mentioned that I hate playoffs in a fantasy league?

Meow. If I can survive this week, I think I'll win it all. How about that team that started out 0-4? :D

I hate the playoffs

I'm more than happy to see the Romo/Brady owners and those whose teams consist wholly of Pats/Cowboys players crash and burn.  You bastards drank from that well the entire season.

I would have been happy to draft the players I wanted from other teams, but YOU BASTARDS TOOK THEM BEFORE ME!

#4 vs #6 for the JV title?  The meek have inherited the Earth.  Merry Christmas :santa:

I had only 2 cowboys players for most of the season, one of which was Terry Glenn who never actually played.  Hell I was laughed at when I picked up Romo in the 3rd or 4th round as my starting QB so anyone upset that he has helped my team can lick my balls.  Anyone could have gotten him and he wasn't exactly a sure thing, just going with my extreme Cowboys hope there.  As far as Pat players I can't stand the team so don't have any.  Other then that I pretty much draft by posistion and try to keep it so bye weeks don't kill me.  Just sucks to have your team fall apart in its first playoff game which renders all the other games pointless anyway. 

fake edit:  I still have some hope that my number 1 pick Adrian Peterson has a monster game tonight and steal the win back for me.   But that whole 9 yards rushing last week kinda puts the kibosh on that.  Also have his backup and at this point I don't know who will have the big game :p

Edit: Wasn't a monster game, congrats cmlancas

1. You all could have drafted Brady

2. I picked up Welker off the waiver wire

Overall, I'm content with my point total for the season despite my win/loss record.  It was fun playing against you guys and I'll look forward to it again next year.

Welker was probably the wave wire pickup of the year.

My Romo/Brady hate is just an extension of my picking of Donovan McNabb again.  Disappoints for the second year in a row, just more spectacularly this year.  If I pick him again, it's a sign of insanity.

Heh, anynow, both you and Zetleft dominated scorewise like I haven't seen in a while. I think my point total last year was only about a hundred higher then the playoff pack.  Take solace in the fact that I lost during Peyton's record season.

It was a good run and honesty better then I thought it may be at the start of the season.  Luckily the numerous injuries on my roster kept being to my RB core and I picked up plenty of reliable backups there.  Got Bralynn Edwards for a steal and turned out to be a top tier receiver after all. 

Sad that its over, means the nfl season is just about up to wrap up too.  I hate that deadtime without any football going on. 

Hey, I recognize you. You're one of only two people I beat this year!

I was terrible in all my pools except one this year, and in that pool 1st plce is playing 6th for first overall and I'm neither of those (2nd). My pick 'ems in my two spread pools were BRUTAL, I got beat on by the spread all year.

But all that is forgiven since I won just over $1k on a Sports Select ticket in October.

Yeah gonna be a long off-season.

bastard

I can't help it, The Pants Party is a late blooming team. Unfortunately, I think Manning is going to sit on Sunday. Fuck.

Merry Christmas to me!  :hello_kitty:

Hi, my name is Aaron Stecker and I'm the fucking fantasy football championship MVP.  :grin:

It's awesome when the entire season can be rendered meaningless by the performance of a single individual on a single day. 

(That's why I lobbied for 4 pts per thrown TD and also why I hate playoffs)

....Don't hate because I took Manning second overall and he has carried me all season with NE's defense. Perhaps draft day would've been different for me if this league weren't QB heavy. Anyway, I got lucky this year. I didn't know dick about drafting before this season and it was a good learning experience. Probably next year I'll get torched, but I had fun!

Playoffs are playoffs. Good teams lose. Hell, look at New England this season. I'd give 2-1 against them winning the Super Bowl.  :hello_thar:

Doh, not a great weekend for Willie Parker and Willis McGehee to get hurt very early in thier games.  Congrats Cmlancas.

All aboard the FUCK HEAD2HEAD FF bandwagon! Plenty of room on here.

I just don't think I'd find fantasy football interesting without head to head.  If I want to feel like I'm just balancing a spreadsheet and competing in parallel with people, I'll just go back to playing Eve.

I'm in 100% agreement with this statement. Head to head can produce some smash-the-pc-in-anger type results, but it's WAY more fun to play imo.

I agree. H2H is all about playing the matchups instead of just accumlating points. It can be a pain in the ass, especially when your QB shits the bed late in the season, but I think it's better than roto.

You are all very wrong, and will continue to be wrong until you join the right and just cause.