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Title: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: ForumBot 0.8 beta on July 17, 2007, 02:07:00 AM
Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3

Disgaea 3 was just announced for the PS3 and it's looking a LOT like a PS2 game. With a Winter 2008 (as in, by February 2008) release date and a price of about $70. NISA needs to get this shit localized, fast.





Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Trippy on July 17, 2007, 04:06:30 AM
Sony must be paying them a ton of money to make it for the PS3.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Moaner on July 17, 2007, 09:58:18 AM
This is the most exciting news I've heard in months!  I'm unable to convey my love for Disgaea. 

I hope Etna makes another return, she's my hero.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Signe on July 17, 2007, 11:46:39 AM
I didn't like it.  (don't hit me!)


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Yoru on July 17, 2007, 11:59:42 AM
That doesn't particularly look like it'd really require the PS3's horsepower. I smell a money-grab move by Sony.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Rasix on July 17, 2007, 12:03:05 PM
I can't see anything beyond a Prism ranger apparently teaching class.  SOLD.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Velorath on July 17, 2007, 02:59:53 PM
So... this is the sort of big budget, graphical powerhouse we'd be getting more of if the Wii had never been created, right?

All that aside, I'm sure it will be a fun game.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: schild on July 17, 2007, 03:00:50 PM
So... this is the sort of big budget, graphical powerhouse we'd be getting more of if the Wii had never been created, right?

All that aside, I'm sure it will be a fun game.

I'm expecting hi-def anime cutscenes. Lots of them.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Yegolev on July 17, 2007, 03:06:09 PM
I'd point out that many recent 2D PS2 games have slowdown in some areas (Odin Sphere by reports, tiny bit in Atelier Iris 3 via firsthand), so the notion that PS3 horsepower will be wasted seems inaccurate to me.  If I get Disgaea 3 and see slowdown on the PS3 like I see on PS2, I will be rightly irked.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Phildo on July 17, 2007, 05:25:39 PM
Billions and billions of 'splosions.  Super moves that really DO blow up planets.  Best.  News.  Ever.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Jain Zar on July 18, 2007, 01:14:23 AM
Damn it!  The one thing that could get me to buy a PS3.   Weeaboo turn based megagrinding.

FUCK SHIT DICKLICKER MONKEYSPUNK.

Im gonna have to go buy one before the 60 giggers are out of production aren't I?


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: dusematic on July 18, 2007, 01:20:55 AM
I purchased Disgaea 2 on account of another thread where I was raving about Fire Emblem for GC which spurred Schild et al. to begin raving about Disgaea.  I couldn't get into it. 


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: schild on July 18, 2007, 01:26:37 AM
I purchased Disgaea 2 on account of another thread where I was raving about Fire Emblem for GC which spurred Schild et al. to begin raving about Disgaea.  I couldn't get into it. 

That's weird. I enjoyed Fire Emblem. But it was slower, less involved, had a sub-par story, and was ugly as sin. Still enjoyed it, just sayin.'


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: dusematic on July 18, 2007, 01:47:30 AM
Disgaea was just too out there for me I think.  I really like the idea of "working your way up" so to speak.  Which is why I like RPG's.  Fire Emblem had a pretty good arc as far as that was concerned, starting as you did from the lowliest of mercenaries. And I think they spoonfed me perfectly for my tastes.  Everytime I started to get bored, they'd throw in another wrinkle.  Like all of a sudden the world map would open up, or they'd put you in charge of outfitting the troops with equipment and managing the pursestrings.  The story was typical, but I went in expecting the dialogue to be horrible, and it didn't blow me away or anything but it fit.

Edit:  Also, I was impressed witht he fact that characters who died stayed dead.  This made me care much more about what happened.  I consider it cheezy to reset the game if someone dies, so it was pretty intense trying to keep people alive in the later stages.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: schild on July 18, 2007, 01:49:18 AM
You might like Soul Nomad more then.

I remember you liking Kefka.

You'll DEFINATELY like Gig (the main evil mind in Soul Nomad).


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: dusematic on July 18, 2007, 01:50:20 AM
Googling it now.  Yeah, I mean, FF6 was the greatest game ever, what's not to like?


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: dusematic on July 18, 2007, 01:53:45 AM
Is it not out yet?  What's going on? I feel different.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: schild on July 18, 2007, 01:54:12 AM
It comes out in September. I've got a preview coming next week.

NISA has been finishing their review builds a little.... early.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: dusematic on July 18, 2007, 01:58:10 AM
The story sounds pretty sweet.  Shades of Rand al'Thor, Kefka, and classic fantasy RPG tropes.  I'll consider your preview as an aperitif preparing my palette for the drunken orgy of gaming to come. 


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Yoru on July 18, 2007, 11:34:32 AM
You might like Soul Nomad more then.

I remember you liking Kefka.

You'll DEFINATELY like Gig (the main evil mind in Soul Nomad).

I've been looking forward to hearing more about Soul Nomad as well. Plz to hurry up with the preview kthx.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Mrbloodworth on July 19, 2007, 02:59:49 PM
you know, i really REALLY hated that game, but not for its game play, but for the writing, and , well, just really juvenile plot and..."acting"? The characters were really, freaking annoying.

Final Fantasy tactics is much better game, in just about all respects.

Sorry.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: schild on July 19, 2007, 03:04:46 PM
but for the writing, and , well, just really juvenile plot and..."acting"?

What? Joke post?


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: dusematic on July 19, 2007, 03:11:45 PM
I think he just means how over the top and anime it was.  If you're not into anime, the game might be too out there for you.  At least that's why i think it didn't click with me.  i could tell there was some deep gameplay lurking though, i just didn't feel connected to the game.  I just remember thinking "huh...everyone's a demon eh?  Except the protagonist...huh."  I will say that this is probably my failing as a person, because there were some crazy elements in that game.  Like the Dark Court or whatever.  That seemed crazy, I can't really touch on it because I didn't look it up online, but it's the only concrete example I can remember offhand, as I didn't get that deep into the game.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Mrbloodworth on July 19, 2007, 03:19:09 PM
but for the writing, and , well, just really juvenile plot and..."acting"?

What? Joke post?

No joke. I really couldnít stand the dialog the players had; every time they spoke I wanted to slap them, really. I did not get far in the game however, and no, I am not an anime fan, at least, I do like some anime, but I canít stand the really childish stuff.

The only reason I bought the game is because someone recommended it when I said I likes FF:T.

If it did have a good plot, id never see it, due to the horrible dialog from the characters in that game.... So much so, i don't think i could ever take any of it seriously (as in, care if it had a really cool plot). Not to mention the names of items, and the descriptions...good god.

I thought some of the concepts were cool, and i could have gotten into what combat system i did see, but i turned it off in disgust, as i could not get past the dialog and,well, the characters.

EDIT: I guess i should say, i'm talking about 2.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Rasix on July 19, 2007, 03:22:45 PM
 :headscratch:

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Not to mention the names of items, and the descriptions...good god.

You're no fun. At all.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: schild on July 19, 2007, 03:28:31 PM
Ok, so, definately a joke post.

(http://f13.net/media/disgaea2/d2_berserker.jpg)

Yea, those item descriptions really sucked.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Mrbloodworth on July 19, 2007, 03:29:53 PM
:headscratch:

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Not to mention the names of items, and the descriptions...good god.

You're no fun. At all.

I'm quite allot of fun, but there is silly, or "fun" then there is stupid. /opinion

 I think it was just the whole presentation, i felt like i was watching some pre-teen show about..high school, were the drama is non stop... or something... It just felt very juvenile, and not in a fun way, in a really scary way, and annoying.

All of that made my time with the game REALLY short...so take my comments as such.

Give me RoboTech, or blue sub #6... i don't know this series, but i'm sure i would have hated it, so i'm sure i'm biased in the first place.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Phildo on July 19, 2007, 03:55:55 PM
:headscratch:

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Not to mention the names of items, and the descriptions...good god.

You're no fun. At all.

Zam.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: schild on July 19, 2007, 06:04:16 PM
Not liking awesome games and favoring crappy robot/military anime just isn't my style.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Murgos on July 20, 2007, 12:52:50 PM
I think it was just the whole presentation, i felt like i was watching some pre-teen show about..high school, were the drama is non stop... or something... It just felt very juvenile, and not in a fun way, in a really scary way, and annoying.

I'm pretty sure it was a parody of that style of overly-dramatic-take-myself-way-too-seriously thing.  Which in other words means that you take yourself way to seriously.

Killer penguins and characters that hit every single point of the stereotype that they are based on in exaggerated detail would be a clear give away to most people.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Mrbloodworth on July 20, 2007, 01:45:38 PM
I think it was just the whole presentation, i felt like i was watching some pre-teen show about..high school, were the drama is non stop... or something... It just felt very juvenile, and not in a fun way, in a really scary way, and annoying.

I'm pretty sure it was a parody of that style of overly-dramatic-take-myself-way-too-seriously thing.  Which in other words means that you take yourself way to seriously.

Killer penguins and characters that hit every single point of the stereotype that they are based on in exaggerated detail would be a clear give away to most people.

Not a fan of the genre, so if it was, i wouldnít know, as i have seen some really annoying crap thatís just like it, so, I figured it was serious. Seems all the "Cool" anime is just like it. Yick. Still not convinced it wasn't.

I came for the combat, and got sickened by the anime.

By all means enjoy your game.

Id like to hear what made the game so great however.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Phildo on July 20, 2007, 04:34:44 PM
Some of the characters are utterly perverted?  Seriously though, the depth of the combat system is incredible.  From character customization to being able to go INSIDE items to level them up, this game goes on forever if you have the patience for it.

Not only that, but it's the best square-based tactics game since FFT, bar-none in terms of gameplay.  I get a little sickened by some of the cutesy anime too, but it gets past that pretty damn quickly.  It really does have a wicked sense of humor.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: caladein on July 20, 2007, 04:46:40 PM
Mechanically it was very solid and I especially liked how the class unlocks weren't completely arcane (I'm looking at you FFT Dancer). I'd go a little farther then Phildo and say that it everything FFT better though.

Still, if you didn't appreciate the humor some of the cooler features would be lost upon you like being able to chuck people across the map and the Assembly. Not liking characters like Yukimaru and Hanako at the very least means you went into the game with the wrong expectations, sadly, zam.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: schild on July 20, 2007, 04:48:39 PM
Actually, I can see not liking Hanako.

But not liking Yukimaru is just heartless.

Also, Rozalin and Adell are largely the best main characters (not counting Etna and Laharl) since Cecil and Rosa or Locke and Celes.

Edit: I should mention, one of the characters in my army in Soul Nomad is named Lahurl.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: dusematic on July 20, 2007, 10:35:27 PM
This thread makes me want to Lahurl.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Jain Zar on July 23, 2007, 02:59:10 AM
Not liking awesome games and favoring crappy robot/military anime just isn't my style.

If you are dissing Robotech I am afraid I will have to tie you to a train track and have a Shih Tzu skull fuck you.

So you take that back sir!


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Velorath on October 12, 2007, 04:11:36 PM
Japanese Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/26319.html).


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Strazos on October 13, 2007, 11:26:24 AM
That looked ridiculous....platforming?

Also, prequel lol? In a school no less?


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Moaner on October 13, 2007, 11:58:17 AM
Disgaea has always been quirky, that's kind of the point.  Also, you have always been able to jump around the town areas, I doubt that is a platforming section.

I think it looks great.  The crazy tower stuff definitely looks interesting.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Cim on December 27, 2007, 08:11:54 PM
I. CANNOT. WAIT.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Velorath on June 07, 2008, 05:06:30 AM
Necro...

NISA's recent press event focused heavily on its DS linuep, including a trailer for Disgaea DS (http://ds.ign.com/articles/880/880066p1.html).


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: schild on June 07, 2008, 01:21:03 PM
Yea, it's focusing on DS stuff because there isn't anything else to focus on. PS3 stuff is hard to get ahold of and there's not much of it. PS2 stuff is dwindling - though I like them to get that X Edge game or whatever it's called. They didn't get poison pink. And PSP development is all but dead.

Tough times for small publishers in certain niches.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Moaner on June 08, 2008, 05:29:11 PM
1up (http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3168131&p=37&sec=PREVIEWS) posted an absolutely abysmal preview a few days ago.  It has some new screen shots and a tiny bit of info but you are better off reading the wiki. 

I'm a little disappointed that companies like NIS have no where else to go other than the DS this gen.  But hey, at least they seem to be going DS instead of Wii, I'd hate to have to actually find one of those fuckers (screw you Shiren 3).

Also, words cannot convey my excitement regarding Disgaea3.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Strazos on June 08, 2008, 05:52:14 PM
I don't understand why they HAVE to go to the DS over the PS3 or 360. Is it because the PS3 doesn't have the market penetration, while the 360 probably doesn't have the right demographic makeup?


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Margalis on June 08, 2008, 05:58:20 PM
In Japan a lot of people are looking for time-wasting portable games they can use on the train. For example if you look at S-E's most recent financial statement they actually made a fair amount of money off cell-phone stuff.

Portable games are much cheaper to produce and the DS has higher market penetration. And games like Disgea don't really require ultra-expensive hardware. I kind of like the fact that the GBA/DS has become a place for 16-bit era games like 2D Castlevanias, Fire Emblem, etc.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Strazos on June 08, 2008, 06:36:19 PM
The thing I don't like about that is I don't normally play portables. I play at home, and I don't feel like craning my neck to look down at my PSP.

Oh well.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Velorath on June 10, 2008, 01:50:26 PM
I don't understand why they HAVE to go to the DS over the PS3 or 360. Is it because the PS3 doesn't have the market penetration, while the 360 probably doesn't have the right demographic makeup?

The 360 is at least trying to get the right demographic makeup.  MS actually had a press conference in Japan earlier, just to show off the RPG's they have coming up.  Tales of Vesperia was given an August worldwide release date, with still no PS3 version announced.  360 exclusive Infinite Undiscovery comes out in September in all regions.  Square announced that The Last Remnant was releasing for the 360 first sometime "this winter", with the PS3 release date still unknown, but will definitely be at a later date.  Likewise Star Ocean 4, which is set for 2009, will release first on the 360, with Tri-Ace saying that it's still undecided if it will get a PS3 port.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Jain Zar on June 10, 2008, 02:57:55 PM
The thing I don't like about that is I don't normally play portables. I play at home, and I don't feel like craning my neck to look down at my PSP.

Oh well.

Much as I dislike the PSP (Even if I am playing R Type Command on it right now.), you CAN play the current versions on your TV.  I almost bought a new one just for that.
Then a mild bout of fiscal responsibility and the realization 200 bucks can get me more AT 43 mans took over.




Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Yegolev on June 10, 2008, 06:18:17 PM
Sitting in the floor using a PSP as a wired controller for a game with terrible visuals isn't nearly as cool as it might seem.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Signe on June 11, 2008, 09:11:29 AM
Sitting in the floor using a PSP as a wired controller for a game with terrible visuals isn't nearly as cool as it might seem.

I bet your little boy thinks you're the coolest person ever when you do, though.  Well, it's mostly the sitting on the floor being short like him, probably, but still!


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Sairon on June 11, 2008, 01:12:50 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35044.html (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/35044.html) looks pretty damn good, more of same with some new additions  :grin:


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Firecrak on June 12, 2008, 05:16:16 AM
Why are they stack-attacking in reverse? Could this be a useful tactic? Stack at start....pummel everything within a 20 step radius lol.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: schild on June 12, 2008, 05:18:16 AM
As soon as press are allowed to play, I'll have a wealth of info for you all.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Velorath on June 12, 2008, 05:35:07 AM
Why are they stack-attacking in reverse? Could this be a useful tactic? Stack at start....pummel everything within a 20 step radius lol.

Some info from Gamespot's preview (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/strategy/disgaea3/news.html?sid=6192234&om_act=convert&om_clk=newlyadded&tag=newlyadded;title;1)

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One of the combat mechanics that has given the series a unique feel among strategy RPGs is the ability to stack characters on top of each other and toss them around the battlefield. You'll still be able to do this in Disgaea 3, but now, you've got a few more uses for your human totem pole. You'll be able to use what are called tower attacks to go after enemies in a variety of ways. We were shown a clip of a tower acting as a 10-person cartwheel to roll over and do damage to those caught in its path. There was also a moment with one person grabbing the entire tower and swinging it around, as well as several bizarre chain reactions where characters are shot from the tower like bullets from a loaded magazine.

Another new feature is the skill merge, which takes skills you've acquired throughout your various battles and fuses them together to achieve hybrid results. You can also use an ability called magichange to transform your character midbattle. A few other enhancements include the ability to deal damage up to a million points at a time and a class world that gives you access to 40 randomly generated battle stages per character. With 270 characters in the game, that should add up to quite a bit of space.

Beyond these, one of the bigger features added to the battle system is the idea of geo blocks. These introduce a puzzle element to the fights. They're multicolored blocks that can be stacked and arranged on the battlefield, which can then be taken out in chain attacks to achieve all manner of strange results. We're not yet sure about the specifics of the geo block placement (how much of it is done by the player and so on), but suffice it to say, they should take an already deep battle system and make it even more extravagant.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Velorath on June 12, 2008, 05:47:36 AM
And PSP development is all but dead.

Just a quick tangent here, I was surprised recently when the news came out that Ready at Dawn (who did the God of War and Daxter PSP games) are calling it quits on the PSP and have shipped out their PSP dev kits.  I can understand wanting to move on to bigger things (not sure the Wii port of Okami would qualify), but I would have thought that the niche they built as one of the top PSP developers would pay enough to continue PSP development in some form.

On the plus side for PSP owners, it was nice to see that Yggdra Union is getting a PSP remake.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Yoru on June 12, 2008, 05:58:40 AM
The Gamespot guy is clearly unfamiliar with the Disgaea series. The geo blocks/geochange system has been in from Disgaea 1 and is one of the primary ways to cheese the shit out of the combat system.

It's also fucking awesome.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: schild on June 12, 2008, 05:59:20 AM
No, the geo system has been revamped entirely. I'm going to bed so I'm not going to get into it. But it's totally and radically different now.


Title: Re: Disgaea 3 Announced for the PS3
Post by: Yegolev on June 24, 2008, 01:07:16 PM
Sitting in the floor using a PSP as a wired controller for a game with terrible visuals isn't nearly as cool as it might seem.

I bet your little boy thinks you're the coolest person ever when you do, though.  Well, it's mostly the sitting on the floor being short like him, probably, but still!

Actually it's because he loves Loco Roco.