f13.net

What you say?

Yes, Yahoo has opened up for the season. You can create the leagues for the upcoming NFL season RIGHT NOW.

I would have created the F13 one, but I'm a terrible person to have running the controls.


http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/

I will set one up if you don't want to...shall we try to have a live draft? Those are always the most fun. I am thinking last weekend in August of we can get a reasonable time. Will that work?

I love me a live draft, so my vote is to go with that. I'm not sure how long it's been open to create leagues, so we might be already out of luck to use the Yahoo version.

Same rules as last year? Those seemed to work pretty good if I remember correctly. Plus, it's super easy in Yahoo to just carry over rulesets from previous pools you've been in.

Shit, guess it's almost that time already.

Live draft is always preferred, just try to keep it after 6:00 pst if on a weekday, if you can.

It definitely won't be any earlier than that on a weekday if I am running things  :-D I would prefer a weekend morning/early afternoon if we can swing it.

Yes to everything in this thread.

I'd also like to join in with a yes to all of the above, if there's room for a lurker.

I'm down.

You gotta league?  I'll play in it.  I'm easy like that.

Definitely interested!

Anyone have a list of people who've been playing the last few?  We should try to avoid last years "oh shit I missed this thread" leading to a 16 team league.  If anyone cares.

League started.

ID: 80995
pwd: harisu

Draft date: 8/23/07 9pm eastern

Same ruleset as last year.

There does seem to be a lot more livedraft "capacity" this year so if the date is a real issue we can try and move it. I am unavailable from 8/29-9/2.

The Pigs are back... and en espanol!

In.  Who loves you baby?

I would have gone with "The Murgosi".. but perhaps that'd just make you sound like a group of witches.

Wow. I just want to say. Having the password as Harisu is just 100% more lols than "f13football" or something would have been. Well played, Kool-Aid Man.

The Murgocratti?

I wouldn't mind joining up, but I don't want to snag someone's spot who was in the league last year..

I try to stay current. I often fail, but I try.

IDKWTF Harisu is, but I am in. I better not lose a fucking playoff game by 2 points again this year or whatever. Bastards.

The Kilts are Waving again! Prepare for Mediocrity!

Ah, what the hell. . . Sure.

There's some spirit for you.

I'd love to join. My qualifications are that I have an unrivalled ability to choose players who will either suffer grisly, season-ending injuries or do something incredibly stupid like hire someone to shoot his wife in the fase.

Free Honor Kill is in.

Yar, count me in for this!

You guys letting new people in or is this reserved for last year's crop?

As an aside: 6 points for a thrown TD will overvalue QB's, especially where immobile QB's are only penalized 0.25 for a sack.  Only 1 starting RB required?  Interesting. 

Ack! I thought this was a first time thing. Let me know if I need to drop out, I don't want to mess something up that's been going on for awhile.

We don't disagree but it is what it is. Not changing the rules after 3 years. I would ask those who have bever played in this league before to wait a week for the vets to have a chance to re-up.  Hell, if you get shut out, start another one. They are free.

In.  Teh Herp is going to continue my tradition of F13 league mediocrity!

Ok I'm waiting the desired new player week, but I'm going to forget that I'm waiting and miss this again.  After the pounding I took in the EPL season I'm eager to fail miserably at another sport.

STAY THE COURSE!

<I'll wait my obligatory week... grrr>

QB points have worked out in the past.  Just means a few QBs sneak into the first couple rounds among the plethora of RBs.  Last year I got lucky and snagged Donovan in the fourth round.  He carried me for a while (heh, I also had Peyton during his 49 TD year) but then I had to finish out the year with Matt Leinart (still won).

Some of our roster limitations come from constantly having a 12 to 14 team league.  Try finding two quality runners in a 14 team league.  You pretty much end up handing the trophy to the only guy that manages to have both of his RBs stay healthy and stay starting.  You should see the amount of roster moves some of us end up making. 

The 14 teams last year, sheesh.  I was making 2-3 a week through the byes.  A year after I basically had a "GG" draft.

Deleted my team, sorry about jumping the gun.

I play in 16 team leagues that require starting 2 RB's and 2 QB's.  Having to find the gems in the later rounds of the draft and from waivers is what keeps it quite interesting throughout the season.  I don't mean to tell you guys how to play... was more of an observation really. 

Heh, last season for me was pretty much won by a waiver wire pickup.  Someone picked up Frank Gore in the last round and then cut him.  I was all too happy to scoop him up.  Sucker's going to likely be gone in the first 10 picks this year.

2 RBs and 2 QBs in a 16 team league.  Man, that's got to make for some really crappy teams when someone fails to get a pair of starting QBs and runners.  We seemed to be pretty competitive top to bottom last year with the exception a few teams getting raped by injuries.

Of course, I'm going to be biased.  I've been competitive 3 of the 4 years (or has it been longer) and won last year.

Four years ago it was the waterthread league.  I didn't realize Yahoo tracked your fantasy stats.  So far I've had 1 first place, 1 second place and 2 third place finishes between here and corp and waterthread (6 leagues total).

The Bandwagon is back.

Thanks for setting this up, I think I'm going to cutback on my fantsay football teams this year. I had 4 Fantasy Teams and 3 pick 'em leagues on the go last year and it was a little much... Think I stick with this one, and one other.

Which will, of course, guarantee a gruesome week 2 knee injury.

Of course, I'm going to be MIA for weeks 2-3 again this year, so it'll be another season of patching my roster with scrubs after all the "surprises" get scooped up while I'm in Tokyo.  Might actually have to try making a trade this time!

I live on the waiver wire, not that it does me any good, mind you. I'm fine with 1 RB, because in today's NFL, most teams are running such a serious RB rotation that it's a wonder anyone gets 1,500 yard seasons. Teams have forgone fullbacks, and just go with 3 tailbacks who all get 10 carries each one week, then one guy gets 30 carries the next week, and the 3rd week, the #2 guy gets 10 again.

I blame Mike Shanahan.

Not sure I want to embarrass myself again.

Although, I do have net access all day at work this time around..

Edit: Didn't play last year because I'm still ashamed of my 05/06 performance.  If I want to play, should I sign up this week, or wait till next week?  I leave it to the group.

Double Edit: Mike Shanahan makes shitty fucking calls in the last half of every season.

You count as a vet, MrHat. Join us.

I'll set up the EPL fantasy when it goes live, but I want to know who the hell was  paz laz, with his no transfer still came in first freaking luck.

Pisses me off. If I had paid attention for two weeks in October, I could have won the damn thing

Crap I forgot all about the EPL thing once the NFL got going. I was doing OK for awhile too.

That EPL thing was fun. Unfortunately for me, by the last month, most of my best players were either hurt, suspended or resting.

So yeah, thanks to Sauced for the heads up, because it's WAAAAAAAAAY to fucking early to be thinking about Football. I would have missed this thread completely. Anyway, Attack Monkies II will steal your beers and then toss shit at all the opponents.

Confused Kittens


Edit: can we get a list of who's who? or we waiting?

Double Edit: It took me like 2 hours to figure out what the hell email/username/password I had for Yahoo!

Im down if you end up needing another.

I counted 12 a couple hours ago, how high we going?

 :-o

LOCK IT DOWN.

I don't want people having to draft Marcel Shipp.

Haha, I was thinking it.

Closed at 12 teams. I will repeat that if you want to play, start another.

Start another and post here. I'm sure if you needed more teams in that second league, someone like me would be perfectly willing to join a second league.

I am a FF whore. I will play in any and all leagues. I am completely useless Mondays and Fridays during the season as I busily manage my teams to mediocrity and beyond.

Or we could set up the 'A' league for the ye olde tymers and a 'B' league for the new hotness. The bottom 4 teams in 'A' league move to 'B' league next year, and the top 4 'B' league teams move up to 'A' league. That works better when you have a prize for 'A' league though.

Having said that, I'd join a 2nd f13 league if a couple more teams were needed since I think the Morlocks league is officially dead this year.

Don't wait for me to start the second. Not going to happen. I don't do more than three at a time (work, MMO guild, f13).

Doh, that's what I get for not lurking this forum enough.  The Roosters won't be able to defend their championship from like 3 years ago (or their almost-last-place finishes in every other year!), but I'll remember to lurk next June, so enjoy your brief respite.

If you guys get a second league going, let me know.

Is there any way to have two seperate leagues and play a championship game pitting the winners of each (just thinking of a way to let a lot of people play (since we always seem to have a lot more people who want in than can fit) without running into the "I'm starting the Falcons' third-string fullback" problem you get in huge-ass leagues),

You guys should have expanded to 16.  I wanted a crack at this bunch.

I'd be down too. Looks like that's six for the second league.

I will be happy to play in a 2nd league to help fill it out. I am a FF whore.

Same here.

I don't have much experience in setting them up. Does anyone else here?

Draft is in 10 days, 6PM on Thursday the 23rd.

Larry Johnson is fucking things up for everyone.

What did he do? I've only been paying attention to college reports since that happens first.

Still on a hold out.  Has yet to report to camp or play in preseason.  Apparently the two sides are now closer to a long term contraction extension.

Holdouts always much things up.  3rd rated fantasy player holdouts more so. 

This year is going to be a tough draft, I have absolutely no clue who I'm going to get if I slide too far down in the draft order.  A lot of marginal players with now high value, players on just bad teams, unproven players taking over starting roles, and injury prone players clogging up the top rounds.

Yeah, I really don't have a feel for this year yet. Gonna have to get off my ass and do some research though- my 'big' money league drafts on Sunday. It feels like one of those 'changing of the guard' seasons where the tried and true fantasy guys fall off a cliff and new guys come through.

Of all the positions, I'd consider a RB holdout the least to worry about.  Having LJ come to the season fresh could actually increase his productivity.  I'd be more interested in the role that Holmes is going to play in the offense with that new FB Kansas City just converted from a LB.  If LJ is going to do less in 3rd and short situations, he could see fewer TDs this season.

Damn, I need to buy a book.

Was someone going to setup the second league that we had talked about? If not, I suppose I can research how to do it :)

Damn I missed out.  Really would love to join the league :cry:

We had quite a few people interested in a second league. I just don't know how to set stuff up through Yahoo.

I was in the pole position in another league last night, so that means the honor will likely be someone else's in this league. My first 3 picks:

1: LT
24: James (over Portis)
25: Palmer (Manning, Brees, Bulger went first in that order).

Bulger over Palmer?

ROFL

My live draft was over the weekend. I drafted 9th out of 13 teams. My first 3 picks- Peyton Manning, Steve Smith, and Marshawn Lynch. I am gonna hate life all year at RB (picked up a bunch of other scrubs, including Jamal Lewis), but I should get decent scoring from my top 2. Until Smith gets hurt. Again.

It was a gift. I almost took Portis instead of a QB to guarantee some RB depth but Palmer is a proven point maker and it was rationally impossible to let him go.  I would rather go 5-0 and then lose in the latter half due to injury than limp into the middle of the pack.

Plus, Portis is going to get ratted out by Vick in his plea bargin.

I have Bulger 6th among QB's on my chart with the big if that McNabb stays healthy.  Palmer is 3rd or 4th.  Opinions vary.

DRAFT DAY YAY.

First draft of the year and I haven't done any research yet. RUH ROH.

Yeah, I need to rank my players today on the offchance I can't draft live.

Ditto.  Not anticipating any problems, but just in case I'm a little late/have to leave early... better work on my list.

Y'all had to pick a draft time where I'm sitting in class, so I'm not gonna be there. BITCHES!

Big ups for draft day. I may be a few mins late, but i'll be there!

Have fun with your 3 quarterbacks, 2 tight ends, 2 defenses and 2 kickers.   Last time I autodrafted it was a fucking disaster.

I have a bad feeling the wife is going to be bugging me since she's be out of town for a couple days.  "Sorry hon, sex after draft."

I have a money draft on Sunday, tonight will work as a primer for the big deal on the weekend. Damn new jobs keeping me from researching FF all summer long!

When I autodraft, I exclude all kickers and all non-top 10 defenses from my list. Kickers are easy to grab after its all over because people are swapping them in and out all season.

2 hours till draft.  ONLY AN HOUR AND FIFTEEN TO EDIT YOUR PRERANKINGS.  DO EET NOW.

Ohh goddamnit. LAST. 

So I get up to get a beer and miss my last pick.  Oh well, it was worth it for two Guinnesses.

Already know I have to cut my last pick.  I didn't bother to look that I've have to play Oakland's D when they visit San Diego.   :|

Let's hear the draft analysis... I'm interested in hearing how the draft turned out.  I have my first draft tomorrow and I never feel prepared for the thing. 

Damn, I actually came out great in the draft for not showing up. Reggie Bush and Rudi Johnson? With Philly as my D? Not too shabby. Too bad my quarterbacks are 30 something ho-hums.

Taking Cedric Benson with my 2nd pick was a boneheaded move, not too sure wtf I was thinking there. But, as it always is before the first games are played, I'm relatively happy with my team.

I think I may be a bit weak at wide receiver. Wayne will get good numbers, but I think Hines Ward is past his sell-by date, and Henderson is streaky. If Driver is hurt for longer than a few weeks, I think Greg Jennings will put up some solid numbers. I think getting LJ may hurt me early, as he might not be ready for the first few games, but he'll eventually get the carries. Portis may take up the slack there as well.

Brees will be money for me at QB and I think Leinart will be a solid second option. TE will be dicey. Gonzalez is always steady, but with the QB situation in KC, who the fuck knows if anyone will be able to throw him a bone. Heath Miller is equally dicey, because who knows with Big Ben will show up. My kicking (Elam) is solid, and San Diego at D will be worth some points as well. My week 6 WR bye week is going to be painful, I think.

Like last year, I'm fairly happy with my starting lineup and a little disappointed with who I managed to get for my backups.  I never do that well in the late rounds although I consider Donte Stallworth and Eli Manning decent backups.

My rb combo of Westbrook and Brown are solid, if a bit perilous at the moment.  Westbrook can be explosive if fragile and Cam Cameron is a douchebag throwing around the notion that Brown might not start.  Javon Walker and Andre Johnson should be solid and  both should benefit from an upgrade at quarterback (even if both QBs are a bit untested).  For QBs, if Hasselbeck doesn't reinjure that non-throwing shoulder early, he should be a decent grab.  My defense (Denver) and kickers (Rackers) aren't bad either.  Bye weeks will be a little painful until I pick up some solid options on the waiver wire, where the season is won or lost (as proof last year).

Here's my assessment:

Good drafts:
sigil (Sigil's spurs).  I almost put this one as mediocre, the flex spot isn't strong on that team.
Paelos (Attack Monkies II). Solid.  Bye weeks may hurt a bit. Bench is viable if unspectacular.
Sauced (P-town Agoraphobes).  Nearly downgraded for a Randy Moss selection. Always a solid drafter.

Mediocre drafts:
Murdoc (The Murdoc Bandwagon).  Some "if"s in key positions.  Some major studs too.
Myself (Los Cerdos).  Bad bench, minor douchebag and fragility issues. Big points potential.
Trotski (Vick's Fightin' Herp).  Saved by a late round Tatum Bell selection.
Haemish (Kilt Wavers).  Wanted to rate this as good, but Portis is a big question mark that the bench might not be strong enough to offset.
Murgos (the murgoses).  Shakey at WR. Some decent bench options. Solid D + kicker may help that some.
Wayabvpar (Makin it Rain).  A Bears WR and rookie RB in key positions.  Sketchy TE. :|  Still, solid bench and Henry might be fucking huge this year.

Ehhh draft (ie future winner):
Phildo (Amateur Musicians).  Vince Young as starting QB doesn't help a shakey team.
Confused Kittens.  Dunno who this is. Every player is an "if".
The Commissioner (shiznitz). Brandon Mirree. Brad Lee Van Pelt.  Epic lulz.  Solid starters, but a bench that makes me want to weep.

Take into consideration that a lot of the "mediocre" and "ehh" drafts still have very potent teams and could really solidify over the waiver wire.  Most everyone, unlike some of the previous years, has a starting team that can beat any other starting team given the right circumstances.  I really expect this year that some of us will get royally boned by the injury bug and/or the stupid coach situation.  This wasn't a very cut and dry draft.

What a fucking trainwreck the auto draft is.  My pre-rankings did fine through round 7 when the list ran out, but then the computer just went retarded.  Keep in mind I excluded all kickers.

8: TE Courtney Anderson when I already had Cooley. The 'bot drafted a second TE when Leinart was still available as a 2nd QB.
9: RB Brandon Miree. Maybe Yahoo! ranked him above Chester Tayler, Tatum Bell or Julius Jones but it seems weird.
10: QB Bradley van Pelt: WTF?! Garcia, Grossman and Schaub were still available. Why pick a backup?
11: TE Jason Dunn. Why 3 TEs? WHY?! And why him when Dallas Clark was free?
12: WR Eric Moulds. I can live with this but why wait until now for backup WRs? Jesus.
13: WR Bobby Engram stinks but it was the end.

Thank God I forced some discipline in the early rounds. My team is completely average.

edit: just checked my rankings and Garcia and Leinart were quite high up. Garcia was never drafted at all. Something is broken.

The Commissioners got TOTALLY RAPED by the autodraft. Van Pelt will be lucky to see a snap and Miree is a Packers fullback, so will never run the ball.

I think Travis Henry in Denver is going to make people think he's a Pro Bowler again. He might even make Jay Cutler a solid QB, or at least give him no excuse for not winning 10 games, with Javon Walker at wideout.

I'm not terribly thrilled with my WRs and have a drastic drop-off in RB, especially if Jackson gets hurt. Week 8/9 is going to crush me too, since I didn't really look to closely at bye weeks until after I drafted.

Travis Henry will be good until he gets hurt again. If he starts 10 games I will be surprised.

I LOL'd IRL at the Autodraft a couple of times. Best comment when Brandon Miree got drafted was 'Is that a cousin or something?'

If Santonio Holmes makes a leap to 70-1000-10, it will offset the Moss risk.  LJ Smith is hopefully a placeholder until Olsen goes off, but we'll see.  Smith could wind up having a good year.  Big Ben at backup QB is also shaky, but he should start every game and my QB situation last year was a fucking disaster.  Considering that I waited on QB and Defense and still wound up with Rivers and Baltimore, I was happy with that.

I'll be setting up a secondary league for those that still want to play.  Any preferences on a live (if we can still do that) or autodraft?

DON'T EVER AUTODRAFT UNLESS YOU WANT A RAZOR-TOOTHED PHEASANT TO PECK YOUR NUTS!

I am still pissed off.

I am still laughing.

I totally flaked.  Completely forgot the draft was last night.  Time to go check out the damage.   :cry:

I will play in a 2nd league if you start one. Not sure we can still get a decent live draft time, but we can take a look at least.

It pretty much let me pick whatever I wanted.  Can discuss in other thread. I expect this to be the running thread for the year.

I'm down, sign me up.

Catch me on a big-time bye week, and you might as well be playing the little sisters of charity. Otherwise, I think I'm top 3 this year right now. I'm also willing to talk trade to get myself a premium WR. Send me proposals.

Funny, Mike Vick is still the 10th overall most popular pick by actual rankings.

Obviously, there are a lot of dog lovers in the fantasy football ranks.

I did a wave of pickups so my bench doesn't look like a clown school. Going to be an interesting season.

Yeah I had to replace Joe "I was around when dinosaurs roamed the Earth" Horn with Matt "I'm a Honky" Jones.

I don't like my WRs much.

Believe it or not, my complaints were heard and I have had two encouraging emails with the Yahoo! guys. I am not asking for any change to the draft results.  I just wanted to highlight the poor AI and they seem generally interested and perplexed.

Gotta say that the tools and support Yahoo gives for a free online service, is pretty sweet.

It beats the fuck out of EA's old paid service by a wide margin.

God that sucked ass. Even ESPN's horrible service was better than EA.

Think I used Sandbox before Yahoo got in the FF business.

Finally got back into town and took at look at the damages that AutoDraft did.

I just stared at my team roster for like 20 mins last night.  I'm so out of it this year I'm not even sure who half my players are.

Time to play catch up.

<---Confused Kittens.

Oh fuck off. Your team is fine compared to the shit I had on my bench.  :evil: You have excellent RB depth and solid, if not shining, WRs.. Other than Owen Daniels, none of your players come close to the "who the fuck is that guy?" syndrome I woke up to (and have since jettisoned.)

<... The Commissioner

I've never had LT in Fantasy. Watch, this will be the year he hits the wall.

Now if only Tony Romo can throw 300+ yards pass for 4 TD's and rush for another every week, I'll be golden.

edit: sry, 4td's.

He'll have to play an NFL defense eventually. That JV shit the Giants put on is nothing like what he'll face elsewhere this year.

The sound of laughter heard on draft day when I took Moss and Roethlisberger is now drowned out by the people laughing at me for leaving both on the bench.

lol Sauced.

I already have an injured player.  Stupid Jacobs Knee Injury.

I love it when you put up enough points to beat absolutely everyone in the league... except for the guy you're going up against. If Deion Branch had done something, ANYTHING, I'd be looking at the win. Witten, Minnesota D, and Burress put up monster points and Branch, Jackson, and Benson shit the bed.

I just need Palmer to outscore Stover by 8 points tonight and I still might squeak out a win.

Yuck, very possible that I lose this game despite being up 30 and having my kicker left.  I don't see Rudi getting a lot of points against Baltimore's D, but it's possible and Fitz could just go off.

My team is holding up a lot better than I expected this week.  Ronnie Brown is going to be a source of disappointment all year long.

In the basement game of thr week, I am going down against P-Town since he has 3 slots playing tonight and I only have one.  I wish I could blame this week's performance on the autodraft but my starters were all reasonable picks. Just not their week.

I would've won this week for sure... if I'd started those guys from Oakland.  Who knew?!?

Awesome.  My two CIN players who were P going into the weekend, but Active and practicing Sunday, ended up not playing.

*sigh*

Aaaaand... Palmer helps me squeak out the win. I went .500 in four leagues this weekend, however my $20 Sport Select ticket worth $26k, unsurprisingly, was not to be.

That Ravens/Bengals game was fun, even if Rudi didn't get me enough points. The Cardinals/49ers game was painful. PAIN-FUL. Two teams trying to outsorry each other. I will say that Mike and Mike (and Mike) making their debut in the NFL booth was a refreshing change from the early game. I love Ron Jaworski in the booth, but fucking Tony Kornhole just irks me to no end. Put the 3 Mikes in the booth and keep them there.

Just a heads up.

Check yer rosters for injuries.

I already miss livestats.

Edit: Cleavland wtf.

My defense lost me points.  And I lost by 5.

God dammit.

I want to cockstab Drew Brees. What the fuck is wrong with him and for that matter the entire New Orleans offense? They looked like a JV team against TAMPA GODDAMN BAY. Fuck me, it was painful to watch. At least he got one TD. As it is, LEINART has more total points than Brees.

And of course, I run into the buzzsaw of Carson Palmer's 6 TD passes. Shit.

Whatever has afflicted the Saints has also struck the Chargers. They were completely inept last night.

I had a rough ride this week, thank GOD I have Palmer in this league or I'd have been 0/4 for the week. Ran into a Palmer/Steve Smith combo in one league and I just plain drafted bad in the JV league. I had high hopes for Maurice Jones-Drew that are rapidly disappearing.

Jones-Drew and Maroney suck. The Pats gave Sammy Morris equal carries. Fucking autodraft!

Well I need the Philly defense to have a massive game against the Skins, which I don't see happening. However, if they toss up a shutout with a couple turnovers and a few sacks, I'm on the winning side this week.

How'd that work out for ya?  Depressing game for an Eagles fan like me.

FIFY

Glad I'm from Western PA.  Ouch.

Not so good. I don't see this season working out well for me if my crappy WR's average 5 points a freaking game.

Ah fuck.

I should've remembered:

"Always bet on black."

McNabb having a career day on my bench.

My team suck-diddly-ucks. Also, up yours Tom Brady.

I don't think I have ever had a winnless FFL season. There is always a first time.

FUCK. FUCK YOU, LARRY JOHNSON, YOU HOLDOUT PIECE OF SHIT!

Fucking asshole. Manages to squeeze a total of 26 goddamn points out of 3 games because he isn't getting paid enough. Fuck you, shitbag.

Who the hell knew Green Bay would have such a great day against the Chargers D? Not me, I tell you. I expected Favre to throw at least one pick, but no, he kicks ass. That was a good game to watch for Packers fans like me. James Jones is going to be a stud by this time next year. I still am not sure about the Green Bay running game, but damn if they aren't playing a run and gun style offense that's working. They may come crashing to earth when they play the Bears, but based on the Bears shitty performance against the Cowboys, I'm not so sure. Favre is at least as good as Romo these days, and he has experience. Romo just sliced the Bears to bits. Also, Rex Grossman still sucks. Not exactly breaking news.

And who expected the Giants defense to show up this week? Thankfully Portis had a great first half. I still need Brees to have a 40 point game tonight to have any chance of winning.

I wouldn't lay all the blame on LJ's shoulders. That line (and the team as a whole) is fucking terrible. Herm Edwards is a donkey.

Went to the Bengals/Hawks game yesterday. My voice is just about gone today. Good times.

That game was pretty fun to watch. Helped that the guy I was watching it with was against me this week in FF. I had Housh and Hasselbeck, and he had Chad and Alexander. I won ;)

While this is all true, it still can't be underestimated just how much missing every bit of camp has affected LJ. I mean, there haven't been significant changes in that O-Line from last year, have there? AFAIK, only Trent Green was the major subtraction from KC, which shouldn't really affect LJ at all.

Westbrook and Ronnie Brown really put down the hurt this week. I should end up winning by 50 in a week where my WR tandem scores an awesome 4 points.

IIRC they lost a couple of vets to retirement (Shields and someone else). Or was that last year?


I was going through my lineups like Thursday night and TJ was questionable. I decided to sit him, which in turn caused him to have a big day. So, you're welcome. I should know better than to reverse curse a Seahawks opponent. Now, to comb the waiver wires for some SF guys to play this week..

Lee Evans has 5 points.

FIVE!

FOR THE WHOLE SEASON!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!

Stop bitching. My fucking QB has scored 19 points all season. Brees is killing me. I have to play TRENT FUCKING GREEN next week because Brees is on bye and Leinart is in some kind of bizarro QB rotation. WTF?

#1 in both leagues  :-D  Of course that won't last with Andre Johnson hurt.  :-(

Glad I'm not a Steven Jackson owner. 

You're up against me with Reggie Bush on a bye. It should be interesting.

I got him in two leagues. My 1-2 punch of Jackson and Jones-Drew has been an epic failure so far, and I don't see any reason to think that it's going to turn around.

I'm surprised about Jones-Drew. I expected him to pick up decent points. Even Fred Taylor is pissing points away, with only 17. How are they 2-1? Oh right, easy schedule so far.

Jones-Drew may be worth a good bit later in the year, when Taylor sprains his labia.

My team rocks.

Favre + Moss + Westbrook has scored me big. =)

Stephen Jackson out this Sunday (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3034672) with a partial groin tear. OWCH. Oh and Bulger is playing with 2 broken ribs.

And goddamnit, Hines Ward is doubtful, meaning my chances this week just dipped again.

Six teams - HALF of the league - will be 1-3 after tonight. Awful.

That was a step up for me thank you very much. I'll still manage to pull off close to 100 points this week with both Reggie Bush and Rudi Johnson out of their games.

If anyone happens to find Cadillac's kneecap, can you plz return it ASAP? My future rests on Michael Pittman.  :cry:

Maroney benched at the 11th hour so my prediction was not to be. Thought I would squeak out a win.

Another big day for Moss (I'll reserve the I-told-you-so's for fear of karmic retribution) keeps me afloat another week.  Not the most fun fantasy season I've ever had, though, in either of my leagues.

In light of my 42 total point performance, I have changed my name to "Status Questionable".

Stupid fucking last minute bullshit.

Also, as a Denver fan: "Shanahan should die in a football bus fire".

What an awful fantasy football week. Look at those numbers. Nobody is going to crack 100 points this week. Hell, my QB actually COST me points this week, and it's been a long time since one of my QBs went into the negs before.

Both of my teams are in the goddamned shitter.  This league has both of my WR's hurt, my top RB hurt, and my QB playing like a school girl.  Other league has a WR hurt, a non existant WR/RB slot, and an underachieving QB along with a bench that never materialized.   Ohh and both of my defenses have gone from decent to crap. 

SAD FACE.

Fucking Packers. I just have to say that for the way they shit the bed last night.

I'm done with Drew Fucking Brees. Fuck him. He's gone. Somebody want him, they can find his punk ass on the trash heap. Other than that, it was an ok week for me in this league, thanks to my opponent losing Santana Moss completely to injury.

I still have a chance if Dallas can come up big on defense. Right...

My whole team played, so I don't feel too bad about this week.  I'll take whatever win I can get at this point.

Unfortunately, that's a distinct possibility. They are playing Buffalo, after all. But I'm hoping Dallas' kicker gives me enough points to keep me ahead.

I need Tony Romo to make 1 point.  Here's hoping he doesn't break something on the 1st play.

edit: and also Marion Barber to score > 12 for my other league.

I won't say anything.  Last time I wished physical harm on a player here, Deuce was gone for the season.

Ohh god, my kicker outscored everyone on my team with the exception of Ronnie Brown.  SAD.

Speaking of Tony Romo, who watched the Packers' game last night? I watched it on Tivo, which meant I fast-forwarded through all the dead time between plays and such. And yet, by about the 4th quarter, I was ready to strangle John Madden with his intestines if he said the name TONY FUCKING ROMO one more goddamn time. For fuck's sake, enough already. He's had a good run, on a team with lots of offensive weapons in a SHITTY conference and shitty division. He's not Peyton Manning, he's not Tom Brady, he's not even the next Brett Favre. I look forward to him getting dickstomped, probably by New England in the very near future. Madden just kept on and on gushing about Romo and comparing FAVRE to ROMO as if Romo was the soon-to-be Hall of Famer. I swear, Madden had a boner for Romo the size of Texas.

As well he should.

I'm not even sure Brady is the next Brett Favre.  Favre has managed to win games on his own with pretty much little help from the rest of the offense, carrying the Pack to the playoffs on the speed of his hustle.  Brady has never had to play under those conditions.

Apropos of nothing, as I was tortured by Madden's Farve-Fellating all night, but they were "having fun" with a "joke" that Urlacher made, when asked to describe Farve.  He called him an "old Tony Romo".

I can't wait till Favre retires. I'm just so fucking sick of listening to crap like Berman's "Rooting for Bret Favre is like rooting for America".  DIE YOU FAT, IRRELEVANT, ONE TRICK PONY.

Berman needs to be locked in a room with a sack of angry badgers.

I like Berman's highlight reel antics, but otherwise, he's a complete moron when it comes to football analysis.

Ever wonder why the swami doesn't show up on SportsCenter anymore?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You're_with_me,_leather

It's a bad week when 102 points is the highest score anyone can get.

At least Favre isn't throwing 3 INT's a week anymore. I'm kind of hoping this is his last year, because I think Rodgers may be ready for prime time and not throw as many crazy stupid passes.

My hatred of Romo is coming from his being the new media darling. He's an overconfident ass, and I was happy to see the 5 INT line that Buffalo laid on him. As for Brady not being the next Favre, and not having to carry the team, I beg to differ. Up until this year, he has NEVER had a #1 receiver. Hell, the first year they won the Super Bowl, he didn't even have a #1 running back. Part of that is down to fantastic coaching, but he still has to execute. Brady's a better technical QB, Favre is... well, he's Brett Fucking Fav-rah. He should never had had the success he has.

Overconfident ass? You're just a silly hater. You're seeing things. He's always selling himself short when he does good, and fully admits it when he doesn't.

Tafoya: You threw 4 interceptions in the first half...

Romo: Really?! I counted seven.


As for being overconfident on the field, the Bills just laid the pressure on. It's to their credit.

Even the post game, he acknowledged that the Cowboys won inspite of Romo. He said it was a great team effort, if you didn't count his performance. He doesn't come across as an ass at all.

Haem, I hate the Cowboys as much as anyone, but Romo was pretty humble after the loss.

I think you're on your own on this one.

I'll change my statment then. He's an OVERRATED asshole. I'm probably hating on him so much because of him much Romo cock most of the sports media has been sucking. It's like they completely forget he has an established O line, Terrell Owens and Jason Whitten to throw to. Yes, he shows a pretty good amount of poise on the field, and I dig that. But it's like every one is anointing him the next goddamn Aikman. He's the best QB Dallas has had since Aikman, yes, but that's only spectacular because of how bad their QB's have been. I mean, when your last four or five years has listed such sterling starters as Drew Bledsoe, Vinnie Testeverde, Drew Henson, that cokehead Quincy Carter, Romo might look like a hall of famer, but it's way too early to give all the praise he's been getting lately.

Yes, the offense is already great, but don't play down the QB position like that. It doesn't make any sense.

The only people praising him are the same dumbass media who told us USC was the best college football team in history...right before Vince Young stepped on their dick. They are idiots. No real Dallas fans are sitting there thinking this guy is a ready-to-roll-best-in-the-west QB. They think he's the QB of the future, and as such they show support for him. He's not great YET, but he does have all the right things to BECOME great.

Save teh hate for T.O. because Romo is a bad target. Hate on the media, not the man.

Hurray for bye week! It's fun when you realize 4 of your players are on the same one. That was a nice merry-go-round of moves today.

EDIT: It's gonna come down to Harrington for my matchup this week on Monday night. Can't say I really enjoy hanging my hopes on the Falcons.

I'm a bit WR heavy.  If anyone is looking to trade, let me know.

I am very happy when I can leave 30 *more* points on the bench and still win by 20.   :awesome_for_real:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/10/22/bc.fbn.dolphins.brown.ap/index.html

My luck this year has been abysmal.  3 injuries with significant time lost, one being a season ender. A gimpy Westbrook.  League numero dos is getting ever worse although I have a better record.   I am a mirror of suck this year.

I got some extras if you want to put something on the block.

PS.

Looks like it's my turn to get Brady-AP'd.

I'm RB heavy and could use a WR, which team are you MrHat?

Confused Kittens.

Ok, either I'm blind, or you forgot what your team name is.

He's now Status Questionable. He forgot he changed the name.

lol.

Thanks.

Just got coffee, JUST NOW.

Edit: Sigh, NYG Def is my second highest scorer.

Lee Evans and Rudi Johnson are killing me. First round draft pick woes continue.

I've got the other CIN runner if you want.

Nah, I'll just continue circling the bowl. At this point it's not just them, nobody on my team is performing. They are just the most underwhelming. I've got Kitna who started strong, but put up a whopping 4.5 points over 2 games and a bye week. I've got an injured Johnson, my best WR is on a bye this week, and I've got Lee Evans who is playing for the 2nd worst passing offense in the land.

It's a hopeless situation unless I get a major turnaround.

I have it all figured out. Perhaps I'll join this Fantasy Football shit..... next year.

Fuck you Tom Brady.

Agreed.  Selfish bastard just had to get credit for five TDs again, even if he had to run them in himself.

Oh snap.  What happened there?

I am the Quarterback fucking jinx. I pick up a QB in this league and he either starts sucking cock, starts sucking cock WORSE, or he gets injured. Luckily, I didn't play Testeverde yesterday, because he was out after 2 quarters. Every single QB I've picked up this season has gotten hurt except for Brees and he's actually playing well now that I got rid of him.

Ph3@r for your team if I pick up your QB.

Status Questionable just had their asses handed to them.

Damnit.

Aw, cry about it.  Your team scored more than twice as many points as mine did this week!

I withdraw my previous comment in light of a 35 point defense performance.  :awesome_for_real:

Fuck. Fuckity Fuck Fuck Fuckers Fuck Fuckity Fuck Fuck Fuck.

2 points. 2 GODDAMN POINTS.

Had I started Brandon Marshall instead of Reggie Wayne, I'd have won. Motherfucker.

Of course, I expected to get absolutely dickstomped by the Brady machine, even against Indy. But no, it was Adrian FUCKING Peterson with almost 50 fucking points and Marshawn Lynch that killed me.

Goddamnit.

Ya dude, sucks to outscore everyone on the league and lose.

Ph3@r Purple Jesus.

Wow, losing by half a point. That's a new one for me.

If I didn't win $52 this week and regain the lead in my Vegas picks group (around a $900 payout), I'd be pretty pissed about this FF season is going so far. 

It wouldn't surprise me to lose due to Parker + PK getting 24 points.  It would, however, be more appropriate for both of my teams to have 4-5 records because they both equally suck.  Goddamn, I thought I was going to lose Ocho Cinco in the other league once he went down.  It would only be appropriate.   And what the fuck happened with Dwayne Bowe? Did he miss the plane or something?

So, did we do any sort of trading in this league that I didn't notice?

How boring.

Places 1-4 are all tied for record though Makin' it RAIN has a pretty solid lead of 50 points at number 1.  This next week is going to be rough for me, 4 starter offensive players on bye and there is a good chance that Shaun Alexander will not play, or only get limited time next weekend due to injury (an optimistic 50%).

Anyone want a newly hot and active Drew Brees in exchange for RB I can feel safe starting next week?

Yes.

Deal.

SERIOUS!?

Brees and Alexander for Watson and Cutler? SERIOUS?

Jesus fuck.

edit: Ok, after actually looking at your teams, I guess it's not as crazy as I originally thought. Still, Brees is finally starting to produce and I'm always leary about trading away first round picks, especially for waiver wire pickups.

 :headscratch:

Alexander is likely to miss at least a week with injuries, as is Culter. Watson is playing while Rudi Johnson has been injured, and Johnson is sucking when he does get carries. And as was said, Brees is coming out of his funk that fucked me so hard early. Hell, I'd take Brees now, as I continue to flail around for SOMEONE who can stay healthy and not throw 5 INT's a game.

Pretty sure you can vote against the trade.  You want in on that deal?  Ixnay the adetray and cough it up.

Otherwise I'm not too concerned about trading away two players that don't really contribute to my team unless it's a heavy bye week for two other players who are only going to contribute on a heavy bye week.

Heh. In the other league I picked up Brees for a song from Haemish. In a flurry of moves, it ended up being:

From Me:                  for         From Them:
Eli Manning                            Marvin Harrison
Julius Jones                           Brandon Marshall
 

<3

Eli's been the only good thing I got out of that trade, and really, I expected that. I didn't expect Brees to get back on his feet, other than the usual cynicism that says that if I let him go, he'll go win the MVP award afterwards.

At least it wouldn't have made a difference, I would have lost either way, but I was sooo goddamn happy to see that I didn't adjust my roster this week and left Steven Jackson and all his points on the bench.

Figures, the second time I don't play McNabb he throws another 4 TD's.

At this stage in the game, a win is a win and I don't care if I only needed 78 points to get it.

This season in the NFL just confounds me. Totally baffled from week to week. Manning throws up 6 INT's and Vinatieri MISSES not one but TWO chip shot field goals. At least Reggie Wayne still had a big day, or I'd have likely been fucked. I swear, I'm going to audition every shitty QB in the league before it's over.

I'd be happy to let you take Daunte Culpepper off my bench for me.

When he's considered an actual upgrade instead of a sideways slide into hell, yeah, I'll take you up on that.  :uhrr:

Did anyone else notice the crazy 6-4?

When we all noticed the crazy 6-9 bye weeks on our rosters, we knew it would be bad.  But not this bad.

But, hey, don't look now, but my :uhrr: decision to draft Roethlistberger and Moss has me right back in this thing.

Ya, no kidding, Ben is picking it up.

But seriously, there's practically a 7-way tie for first place @ 6-4.

So you're saying there's a chance for me to make the playoffs!  :inluv:

There's a chance for anyone to make the playoffs. Except maybe Sigil.

It's like we're the NFC.

I hardly doubt I'm looking at the required minimum 3-game winning streak required to make it.  Best of luck to the rest of you, though =)

I am firmly convinced that if Mike Nolan's dad were still alive, he would have contacted Mike and told him to KICK A FUCKING FIELD GOAL when his shitty team miraculously found itself in range. Instead, he died the day before the game, which caused his son to go for it at every opportunity. This caused his team to be shutout, which in turn caused me to lose my game against trotski by less than 2 points. Which will cost me a six pack of Snow Cap to pay off our side bet.


And you people wonder why I think the universe is out to fuck me over at every turn.

Well, you ARE a Seahawks fan.

Didn't they used to have a good running back?

He was pretty good until his catastrophic labia injury.

So my team actually played well, and I should have won that game because the other team underperformed... on everyone except Randy Moss and his ungodly 41 points for a WR.

That hurt.

When are the playoffs?

Why you got to be like that?  :heartbreak:

I don't want to play Mr. 1200+.

Amateur Musicians 111.76    Final
Makin' it RAIN   111.72


 :ye_gods:

Hahahahaha. Those of us in this league for the last few years know how much Way loves head to head.  High scoring teams that lose.. he's got it down to a science.

I wish I could say I was surprised. Happens every year. Gonna be even worse this year- with all the parity and my recent injuries, I have a good chance of being the highest scoring team and missing the playoffs completely.

Bah, NYG defense is going to get me negative points even though 3 of MIN's TD's are defensive.

Wait a sec... what happened?  You won all of a sudden?

Makin' it RAIN
   111.72    Final
Amateur Musicians
   111.41

Stat correction?  :pedobear:

Redemption!

Of course, I got my ass handed to me this week, so it really doesn't matter. Even after my masterful pickup of Kolby Smith!

I am 1 point ahead going into tonight's Steelers/Dolphins game. So long as Hines Ward scores more than Willie Parker, I'm golden. Motherfuckin' Hines Ward.

EDIT: And looking at my defense, had I played either Justin Fargas or Brandon Marshall instead of Bobby Engram, I'd be in a much more comfortable position. THANKS SEAHAWKS.

Apparently the entire offense missed the team plane and thus was MIA the first half. You are lucky you got as many points as you did.

Prepare to be defeated, sir!

Does it matter? I think playoff spots are already clinched?

For the PRIDE, sir!

I am so demoralized by the shit I was handed by the autopicker that I will not be running this league next year. I will play but it will be up to someone else to get it going. Fuck.  At least it wasn't this league where I benched Rivers for Garcia.  Double Fuck.

Whose Sigil's Spurs?  Cause, if he, you know, actually managed his team he would probably have been one of the top scoring teams in the league.

lol, 10 weeks to late for that comment.   :grin:

Nope, there are 6 playoff spots, none have been clinched. In fact, any of the top 8 teams could make the playoffs. The big matchups are Status Questionable/P-Town (since one of those WILL end up 9-4 and hold the top 1 or 2 spots) and the Dog Slayers/Attack Monkies matchup, which could leave the Slayers out of the top 2 if Makin' It Rain wins, or give him a first-round bye with a win. Murdoc and I play for the #6 spot. Whoever wins is in for sure, but a loss doesn't totally eliminate the loser. Talk about fucking parity.

Right now, the matchups favor me, because his QB and WR's are all up against some stout defenses. This has been one helluva league year.

Yeah, no one has clinched yet.  Given this weeks matchups, I could conceivably be out of it with a low scoring loss, or as Haemish mentioned a lock at #2.  Crazy.  How I ended up in the Game of the Week while the other 8-4 teams get the bottom 3 is beyond me.  Thank god I didn't need a big game from Big Ben last night, though.  Sheesh.

I got a cellar dweller match up to get in, but his team isn't THAT bad.  Should be a close game.

Anyhow, I'm just glad to still be in contention after the string of injuries I've had this year. 

Donald Driver @ Dallas or Roddy White @ St. Louis?  Decisions, decisions, decisions.

The rest of my line up is pretty much set in stone unless there is a late injury reported.  It's nice to have finally moved into #1, it sucks to know that I am teetering on not even being #2 if I lose and Makin' wins (Which he probably will since SS is playing guys who are out for the season).

There are so many teams at 7-5 I'm not even going to bother to try and figure out the permutations.

We've got 3 essential "win & in"s: yourself, Sauced and Mr. Hat.  Sauced and Hat play, so we will at least have one 9-4 team.  And you're playing Attack Monkies II, who are just a bad sequel this year. Myself and Way have enough points that if we win, we're going to be in.  The next most points for a 7-5 is Haem and he's 90 points back.   Murdoc and Haem will end up knocking one of each other out (possibly).

But uhh, yah, lots of permutations. I don't want to bother doing them all. Especially at work, I try to keep my thinking to a minimum here.

Heh, shit, I've won 4 in a row.  Didn't notice that until now. I probably shouldn't have typed that.  :awesome_for_real:

Damn you, Hines Ward!

My money pick up @ W/RB (Jacobs) doesn't look like he's going to make it.  I hope Ron Dayne can pick up the slack.

Fucking injuries.

I can't decide if I should sit or play Braylon Edwards.  Stupid "Q".

Well, Braylon played.  :grin:



Now, as long as Moss and McGahee don't combine for 40+ points, I should be ok.

 :ye_gods:

Hines Ward and Reggie Wayne in the HIZZY, BITCHES.

Oh and did I forget San Diego's D, which apparently rolled over KC's line like a hippo at a buffet line? That was the highest point total I've posted this season. Even with Matt Schaub going down and scoring only 1 point I manhandled Murdoc. It didn't hurt that Palmer apparently couldn't throw with any accuracy. I can't believe how many balls he had sail on him.

Of course, with Schaub a question mark for next week, and Campbell facing the Bears, I have to rely on Kurt fucking Warner against the Seahawks. Ugggggg.

Jeebus is going down. I will be there, and would make a mocking sign if I thought there was any chance FOX would show it on TV  :evil:

Curses!

Now I have to face BradyPeterson  :ye_gods:

I don't think I like the concept of bye weeks in fantasy football.  Sure, I have the better record and I shouldn't be forced to play with the plebeians but the whole reason I play FF is so I have a reason to pay attention to NFL games other than my favs.

Oh, well, see you guys in two weeks.

I agree with you. I'm in 2nd in another league (seriously) and now have to sit and wait a week. I can understand it, especially in H2H when anyone can win in any given week, but it still kinda sucks.

 :awesome_for_real:

My playoff forcasts are RAIN with a high chance of loss.

I have to lose. Otherwise I couldn't bitch about having the highest scoring team* and losing. AGAIN.


*haven't checked recently, but was highest as of a week or two ago.


Love that whacky H2H!  :uhrr:

Damn.

I may have just gotten Bradied.

We'll see how it turns out tomorrow.

Edit: Woo!

Edit2:  :awesome_for_real:

Tom Brady outscored the rest of your team.   :awesome_for_real:

One Tom Brady owner down, one to go.

 :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:

Hey, I feel the pain. Fargas has been a motherfucker the last few weeks, against Green Bay, Lane Kiffin decides to completely forget he has a running game when they are only down 14 points. Fucking retard. Hines Ward gets shut down against New England, Wayne has an average day and suddenly, there are almost 40 points sitting on my bench doing fuckall. Once I had to rely on Kurt Warner, I knew I was fucked. Having Larry Johnson being a sore vagina most of the season didn't help at all.

With Brady off the map, that league is wide open now.

Psssh.

No credit for me?  I win motherfucker.


God I'm going to lose badly next week.  Big Ben going to play hard to show that the Steelers aren't punks.

Ode to MAKIN' IT RAIN.

 :woot: :woot: :yahoo: :woot: :woot:


Fear the Underdog bitches.

...but the Steelers ARE punks

Hey, more power to you. Your team outscored mine the week we played. It is my lot in life to build monster teams only to have my hopes and dreams crushed when the asshat in the basement wakes up and has a career day against me. I am too lazy to look it up, but I would be willing to bet that I had more 'best weeks' against me than anyone in the league.

I have a bad feeling about this weekend.  Rasix's team looks like it's set to steam roll me with some favorable match ups.

Tell me about it.  My team now has to compensate for Tony Scheffler playing like Tony Gonzalez.

I'm so glad he finally paid out.

Kinda wish I'd played Dayne but he was a big P up until last night.

Also, I'm worried about McGahee.  Fucker looks like he's going to destroy Miami by himself.

Damn you Colston stealing my points!

So.... Brady and Romo got outscored by.... everyone in the league this week?  :uhrr:

In the JV league, that might just get me the win....

 :ye_gods:

Shitty weather is going to ruin my game.

Oh Romo why hast thou forsaken me?

Edit:  5 positions managed to combine for a total score of ~ 13 points.  Fucking brilliant. 

Ahhhh!

3pt loss.

Man, what a crazy season.  Damn fun.  Till Next Year!

Fuck, I didn't even realize I was in the 5th place game. Apparently, neither did Tom Brady, so I win.

5th place. Go me. :awesome_for_real:

GG Mr. Hat.  I saw Brees' stat line, Brady's stat line (No Moss), saw that Baltimore and Pitt lost, and figured I was done for.

Glad Brees was throwing to Colston.

Wow, I'm going to end up losing by less than a point.   :uhrr:

Los Cerdos                107.86
P-Town Agoraphobes 108.04

No way that holds up.  There will be some stat correction on Wednesday that ruins this for me, I know it!