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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=451414&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

Could be NSFW

Just commented about this on NeoGAF.

It's a goat. It's already dead. It's not one of the "cute" animals. There are so many reasons this is a 'non-story.'

Slow news day.

Well, it's not exactly like it died peacefully of natural causes, or it was some roadkill that they lucked upon, or something.  They bought it from a butcher who slaughtered it for that purpose.  So yeah, it died for the sole purpose of being a gruesome centerpiece.  They should have known that'd offend some people.

Still, the only difference between the goat at this party and a pig at a luau is that the goat didn't get cooked and eaten.   :-P

I think that's a reasonably important difference. Butchering a goat to provide food, and butchering it to provide a prop at a commercial launch are quite different in intent.

But as noted, the real question is what drugs their marketing department are doing.

It's revolting that they killed a goat to be a god damn marketing prop.  Does Sony recruit their executives exclusively from schools for the mentally challenged?

Why is it revolting? I don't get it. This goat was probably from a goat mill anyway.

Damn, are we really this sensitive?

I think you're all overlooking the fact that tittie is clearly visible in that picture.

Sorry, but a slaughtered goat can't compete with nubile, painted boobs.

Agreed. Slaughtered goat: -1. Painted tits: +4. So I'm ok with this event.

Everyone would have loved this if Blizzard did it!  :lol:

Hell, if Nintendo had a fresh corpse at a Manhunt 2 event people would call them gods. They'd build fucking shrines.

But nothing can compete with sandy vaginas.

What... what the shit?!  How... I mean, what the...

I mean, I'm not, y'know, offended or anything myself (I never liked goats anyway, smug bastards), but at what point exactly did this seem like a reasonable kind of idea?  And how the hell did they get from a bunch of budget meetings approving a promotional event, to naked chicks flouncing around while someone sacrifices a goat, or whatever?  I'm just having trouble making the mental connection between "SONY  = sombre guys with suits and briefcases full of money" and "Yeah, sure, I'd love to eat offal out of the stomach of a freshly slaughtered goat and then do a bit of snake-wrestling!"

Well, this was a European event and as a rule, this plays better over there than here in Peoria. I wish we were less uptight about guts and titties but that's the way things go in this fucked up country. But I will say this stunt smacks of desperation. Sony is getting trounced in this particular console run (at least for now) and is begging for attention, even if it is negative. IMHO, Sony has driven the Playstation brand right into the ground much like Nintendo did when the N64 came around. It's a console that by and large, nobody cares about, or at the very least, cares the least about.

/em prepares for severe beatings.

Which Peoria did you just speak of?

I imagine it would be Illinois if he's just using it as a figure of speech rather then where he actually is.

I figured it was a figure of speech. But there's also a Peoria, AZ. As such, it'd be neat if there were more people here.

Yeah, figure of speech.

Edit: Heard it many years ago in a tape of an old radio show called 'Fibber McGee and Molly'. It's stuck with me and has been waiting desperately for years to be used.

It would be neat for you perhaps.  Not so neat for the people you'd like to see stuck in AZ with summer approaching.

hahahahahohohoho that's funny summers in az.

better than florida.

I agree that summer in Florida also sucks (when I was a kid my family went on vacation there one year).  Arizona is only marginally better though, if at all.  I won't even go to AZ to visit my own mother.  If she were to somehow end up on her deathbed before moving out of there, I'm afraid I'd just have to send her a card offering my condolences.

While I agree that they're getting pounced, this doesn't really have anything to do with this console run. It's a God of War II event. You know? That game that's topping charts on that old system that keeps outselling the others?

Except that the outrage expressed by people in the article are European. Also does the UK not have any food safety laws? Who in their right mind thought that eating food pulled out of a rotting corpse was a good idea?

This is going a bit off topic, but here's an observation I've made (and I'm sure others have as well): Breasts are not as titillating if they're a different color than the expected flesh tone. Tricks our easily manipulated male brains into thinking clothes are actually there. I mean, I can see nipple, but the sex drive is convinced that the breast is clothed and thus not as accessible. Normally, I'd think I'd have to start working harder to get that shirt or blouse off, but part of me knows it's already off so I get confused and start wrestling with the reality of non-existent but visible clothing and the fully exposed but seemingly invisible breast

You women are evil.

I don't really see the problem with this. I mean they probably should of cooked up the goat and ate it but beyond that it just confuses me why people would have any reaction to this at all.

Anyone who's not a vegan?  :evil:

I don't give a shit about goats, but you have to be pretty messed up to think taking a life for the sole purpose of a marketing gimmick is ok.

Kind of like going into a warehouse store on a Saturday and being offered to try a new hotdog or sausage product?

As we speak, probably 1000 goats were just slaughtered across the world. Who really cares if they get eaten or if they get put on a freaking stage? Dead is dead and it was slaughtered by humane standards. Now, if they had killed a live goat in front of an audience for a bloody gimmick, then you could actually get up in arms.

Yeah, because a almost decapitated corpse on display is EXACTLY the same thing as a sausage at the supermarket.

Good show Sony.  You guys are hilarious.


That would have actually been more awesome.

People need to come to grips with where their meat comes from.  The whole process is so sterile now that consumers just buy what's tasty while avoiding the reality of the process. It's much like those discount clothes and rugs made by 10 year old kids.  Perhaps the reality might spark a few people into making more informed choices... naw, what the hell am I thinking?  People like being dumb.  It eliminates the burden of responsibility. 

People kill all sorts of animals for stupid reasons (shooting guns is fun, the animal was eating my grass, etc.) and I find them all equally pointless.  Perhaps this marketing stunt would bring that to light, but I doubt it. 

More pics of the topless grape dispensers.  Please?

Also a goat died OMG TEH HUMANITY, get a fucking grip its an ugly world out there.  The senseless (lol) killing of a goat doesn't even make the tiniest blip on my outrage radar.

You guys all need to view this (http://www.peta.org/feat/stateoftheunion/) (NSFW).

Have you ever actually been to a butcher's shop?
My local (decent, independant) butcher usually has at least a brace of pheasants and some rabbits up on hooks in his shop window.

Korean markets are better.

You can see the dogs hanging up on hooks instead :D

I'm no goat-lover, or worse, PETA-lover, but I do find this particular publicity stunt fairly retarded. And I say this with complete confidence in myself, as both a carnivore who visits the supermarkets and butchers for my meat and as one who has actually gone out and shot animals, gutted them and eaten them afterwards.

I'd agree that it's a "dumb" thing to do -- simply because Sony should know by now that the world is full of whiny bitches who are looking for anything to catch them on.

I don't think it's a "cruel" or "barbaric" thing to do though -- I don't even know the story here. And neither do you. All we do know is that they themselves did not kill the goat. And that the entertainment industry in general has a history of using animals who've died of natural causes when they set them up as props like this (at least for the last 30 years it's been the case -- maybe Sony broke tradition, and got a butcher to kill a goat for the sole purpose of displaying it at a God of War II party.... But that's very unlikely).

Now, you can try to argue that just using a dead carcass is "animal cruelty" -- but you would lose that argument in the end. And besides that, you wouldn't even have the right to make that argument in the first place unless you ran or worked at Pet Fucking Cemetary, and actually do care about honoring the carcasses of animals in the general sense.

Killing for entertainment is so civillized. 

FYI:  as funny as it is to some to mock conservatives when they see OMG ONE BOOB- it is equally funny for me to see people worked into a lather about one dead goat.  Each side has their ridiculous hangups, I guess  :-P

You are extremely self absorbed to even remotely consider that reply is applicable to anything I said. You need to read my post again. And then again.

I could similarly suggest you reread the news article a half dozen times.  My response was applicable to you.  You just don't want it to be, and that's fine.

Don't play with me. You snipped the biggest part of my sentence in that quote JUST TO CONVENIENTLY TAKE IT OUT OF CONTEXT, and now you act like your post was the valid one?

Not only do you not read, but what you do read, you disregard for your own selfish purposes. And then to top it off, you try to make me look like the one trying to distort things.

Boy, you're nothing but a scoundrel.

I don't need to read the article again because everything about my post was referencing the events as they were portrayed in that article. You, on the other hand, made references to this being about "killing for entertainment" -- and that has nothing to do with what took place in the article. Even worse, you tried to make MY POST about that. And I didn't state one opinion, either way, about whether I think "killing for entertainment" is cruel and barbaric or not. Your post was irrelevant to mine. And that's why you need to fucking read.

My comment was this:



Or in other words, I'm saying I can't comment either way -- so long as the story portrayed in that article is what I have to work with here.

After that, I went on to explain the unlikeliness of Sony actually butchering a goat for a God of War party -- or even hiring someone to do it. I further opined that displaying an animal carcass is not the same thing as animal cruelty. All of these things sum up my post. If you want to comment on them fine -- but don't try to make up shit about me. Further, don't try to make me look like I've wronged you for not going along with the bullshit you made up about me.

It's advertising for a game.  Entertainment. 



You read the story and don't know the story.  I'd again suggest you read it once more.  And for what it's worth, my one line comment *was* with respect to what they mentioned in the article, which was nutty stupid on Sony's part.


I neither feel wronged, nor made up bullshit about you.  I made one sarcastic comment.  Sandy vaginas indeed. 

You misquoted me, projected a completely different point upon me than what I really said, and then keep on insisting that I'm the one misreading things. That's not sarcasm. That's just you being the rotten, selfish, contentious prick that you are.

And not only are you rotten, but you're a coward too. You can't even embrace your rotten ways correctly. I'd almost be content with that.

Instead, you have to try to cover it up, grasping for some way to save face here, by saying it was just "sarcasm".

"Hee hee ha ha -- Look at me, Roac, the funny sarcastic guy. Look at Stray taking things too seriously. Hee hee ha ha. Sandy vaginas indeed."

No.

You know, if you add "and boobs" to the title, this thread's view count will hit the thousands.

It was a stupid idea, in my opinion, to do this kind of event, both because of the goat and the nudity.

Shrug, I don't care.  Moving on.

Was I the only one who thought the girl in the PETA video had funny-looking hips or something?

She used to be much heavier then she was during that video hence the odd hip shape I would guess.

All I have to add is that I'd be pretty turned off by a dead goat lying on the table. Call me crazy, but it's just not really something I want to see at a party. The topless women are fine, however.

And people pulling offal out of the goat to eat? Yeah, I'll be in the other room where people are drawing on chalkboards with rusty nails.

Yes, because out of all the posters here, I consistantly feel a need to cover up my feelings on any given subject out of shame for expressing them.

It was sarcasm.  So was my last sentence, since your sensors seem broken.  Sorry that you went apeshit over it, but it is what it is.

The Sony spokesman said the animal had not been slaughtered for the event but had been bought from a local butcher by the Greek company hired to stage the event.

The firm refused to say how the goat died. It is unusual for animals in modern Greece to be killed by having their throats cut, let alone by being decapitated.

I'm far too much of a germaphobe to be in the same room as a dead goat, but I like to go by the rule where people get to do whatever they find fun at their parties because I want to be able to do whatever I want at my own party (As long as either is legal, obviously).

Topless ladies feeding the guests grapes, though? Why don't we do this more often?

I just love that people get more worked up over this crap than they do about Darfur or East Timor.

[EDIT] My bad. Nevermind.  :-)

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Doesn't it say somewhere that the goat was still warm?

I don't care much about animals being killed, but I'm sure Sony could of done something more tasteful. Like had a man dress up as a minotaur, have Kratos battle him in front of everyone, pin him to the ground and stab him in the mouth with the Blades of Athena. Then in an attempt to further WOW the audience the minotaur man could get up screaming in pain and spray blood from the mouth by the gallons. Heck, even have Kratos decapitate him for shits and giggles. Maybe even throat fuck him right after. I should work for Sony's marketing department.