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Title: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Riggswolfe on March 27, 2007, 02:12:49 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17816192/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17816192/) That photo weirds me out. It's pretty damn even and very....hexagonal.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: HaemishM on March 27, 2007, 02:17:39 PM
ZOMG SATURN IS THE WELL OF SOULS!


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Riggswolfe on March 27, 2007, 02:20:23 PM
One of my early cynical thoughts when I first saw this was "I wonder if some techie at Nasa got bored and photoshopped this and is now scared to admit it?" That was blown by reading it was seen decades ago.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Nebu on March 27, 2007, 02:28:16 PM
I think it's very interesting.  In surface chemistry it's common to see metals align in hexagonal patterns, but that's on an atomic scale.  Something of this magnitude is pretty bizarre, particularly considering the composition of the gasses in the atmosphere.  I wonder if it speaks to the magnetic fields found at Saturn's poles and perhaps some excited state chemical species in the upper atmosphere?



Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Strazos on March 27, 2007, 02:44:56 PM
Could it be some weird bug in the imaging algorithms of the camera or something?


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Engels on March 27, 2007, 03:25:11 PM
I bet a passing sattelite accidentally dropped a hexagonal box of chocolates on the way to Pluto, and we're just now seeing the waves.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Merusk on March 27, 2007, 09:20:11 PM
I think it's very interesting.  In surface chemistry it's common to see metals align in hexagonal patterns, but that's on an atomic scale.  Something of this magnitude is pretty bizarre, particularly considering the composition of the gasses in the atmosphere.  I wonder if it speaks to the magnetic fields found at Saturn's poles and perhaps some excited state chemical species in the upper atmosphere?



Of course not, don't be ridiculous.  It's the native Saturnoians (Saturnites?  Satunarians?) trying to communicate.  :-D


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Llava on March 27, 2007, 09:24:21 PM
The adjective "Of Saturn" is "Saturnine".  I don't know if we'd call them "Saturnines", though.  But their food would be called Saturnine food.  Good to eat if you hate life.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Paelos on March 27, 2007, 09:26:07 PM
I think if I were God I'd screw with humans by putting a big middle finger formation on Mars. Saturn hexagons are bush league.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: WindupAtheist on March 27, 2007, 09:33:25 PM
If I were God, you fuckers would never get any rest.  There'd be a hundred-yard wide flaming duck floating over Times Square shitting clowns, and you'd be up to your waists in aardvarks that hiss and spit blood.  It would be wall-to-wall awesome.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Nevermore on March 28, 2007, 06:18:36 AM
Obviously Saturn has been colonized by giant space bees.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Lantyssa on March 28, 2007, 08:31:55 AM
That's why the bees are dissappearing!


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Yegolev on March 28, 2007, 08:40:11 AM
I predict it is something simple like six vortices created by counter-rotating winds.

I vote for either Saturnites or the subtly comical Saturninites.

I wanted to come up with a joke response, but I'm too stressed out.  Besides, I can't beat WUA's deranged vision.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Righ on March 28, 2007, 08:50:51 AM
I think it's very interesting.  In surface chemistry it's common to see metals align in hexagonal patterns, but that's on an atomic scale.  Something of this magnitude is pretty bizarre, particularly considering the composition of the gasses in the atmosphere.  I wonder if it speaks to the magnetic fields found at Saturn's poles and perhaps some excited state chemical species in the upper atmosphere?

I was thinking that it might be an effect of some long-standing giant storm (such as the great spot on Jupiter) causing a shock wave effect from atmospheric reflection. There are shock waves that transfer the energy from the wave front in a linear manner - if this is happening omnidirectionally from a point source, the linear wave fronts would presumably link geometrically - in this case into a hexagon. All bullshit from somebody who doesn't know enough science to do more than guess though. :)


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Morat20 on March 28, 2007, 12:18:51 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17816192/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17816192/) That photo weirds me out. It's pretty damn even and very....hexagonal.
70s sci-fi was all about the hexagons. (http://www.wists.com/everyone/70s/fac7801630eb1e8ea6719b59094d079e)


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Riggswolfe on March 28, 2007, 12:40:48 PM

I was thinking that it might be an effect of some long-standing giant storm (such as the great spot on Jupiter) causing a shock wave effect from atmospheric reflection. There are shock waves that transfer the energy from the wave front in a linear manner - if this is happening omnidirectionally from a point source, the linear wave fronts would presumably link geometrically - in this case into a hexagon. All bullshit from somebody who doesn't know enough science to do more than guess though. :)

Well, I think I read an article linked to that one that mentioned a giant storm somewhere on Saturn's south pole that looked like a human eye. Maybe it is causing it?

Here it is:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/061109_monster_storm.html (http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/061109_monster_storm.html)


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Mortriden on March 28, 2007, 01:10:44 PM
If I were God, you fuckers would never get any rest.  There'd be a hundred-yard wide flaming duck floating over Times Square shitting clowns, and you'd be up to your waists in aardvarks that hiss and spit blood.  It would be wall-to-wall awesome.

Sign me up for your newsletter. 


And your copy version of the bible.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Kitsune on March 29, 2007, 11:56:44 PM
Yeah, maybe the big-ass storm on the opposite side of the planet is swirling things around to the extent that the 'ripples' are all collecting up at the northern pole.

Or, perhaps the southern storm is a portal to Chaos and the planet is full of demons.  Won't know till we get there, I suppose.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Azazel on March 30, 2007, 05:26:56 AM
If it were to Chaos, it'd be an 8-pointed star, so that's clearly not the case.

It does remind me of the loading scrrens for Doom3 though, so maybe it's the portal to Hell.



Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Riggswolfe on March 30, 2007, 06:10:37 AM
If it were to Chaos, it'd be an 8-pointed star, so that's clearly not the case.

It does remind me of the loading scrrens for Doom3 though, so maybe it's the portal to Hell.



Sweet. We sooo have a real life sci-fi horror movie building. I bet NASA is already suppressing images of what happened to the spacecraft after it took the pictures.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: HaemishM on March 30, 2007, 07:52:34 AM
SEND IN THE ROCK!


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: schild on March 31, 2007, 06:23:09 AM
After reading this thread, all I can think is "Event Horizon."


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Lantyssa on March 31, 2007, 08:44:26 AM
This is far cooler than a trashy movie which changes genres an hour and fifty in.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: Sir Fodder on March 31, 2007, 04:16:05 PM
Hexagon movie (http://planetary.org/blog/article/00000927/), Venus' vortex, and polygons in rotating fluid experiment article.

Some speculation (http://uplink.space.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=sciastro&Number=689912&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=0&fpart=) (Benard-Maringoni convection) and Voyager images of the hexagon.


Title: Re: Hexagonal cloud on Saturn?
Post by: WindupAtheist on April 01, 2007, 11:28:02 AM
Hexagon movie (http://planetary.org/blog/article/00000927/), Venus' vortex, and polygons in rotating fluid experiment article.

Fuck, that sounds filthy.