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Title: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: eldaec on March 15, 2007, 08:25:42 AM
From CeBIT reports...

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/03/15/commodore_back_gaming_pc/

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Commodore's eagerly anticipated Cxx gaming PC will sport an Intel Core 2 Extreme four-core processor, a pair of 768MB Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX graphics card and a Creative X-Fi soundcard, the company revealed today.

What it didn't say up front was how much all this gaming hardware - fitted inside a casing covered with one of a half-dozen or so painted 'skins' applied to the interchangeable front and side panels - will cost.

The machine's specification also inlcudes an Asus P5N32-E motherboard based on Nvidia's nForce 680i SLI chipset. Each system has 4GB of Corsair Dominator DDR 2 memory clocked at 1066MHz. There's a choice of hard drives: two 150GB 10,000rpm boys in RAID configuration, or a single 500GB 7200rpm job.

Running on top of all this: Windows Vista Ultimate. Keeping it supplied with power: a 1,000W ICE Cube PSU. Not a machine for folk concerned about their carbon footprint, then.

...

All four boxes can be given a personal touch, thanks to a choice of casing decorations. And users can control two multi-colour LEDs inside the case's side-mouted fans to "enhance the mood with an ambient glow", as Commodore put it.

....

The machines are due to go on sale later today.

(http://regmedia.co.uk/2007/03/15/commodore_cxx_2.jpg)


Commodore logos make anything cool.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: Engels on March 15, 2007, 09:02:37 AM
If they keep the price tag below $3k US, it'd be of interest, but I suspect that the price tag is going to be around $5k US. Considering that half of f13's membership can build what they're building, and some in fact have already (Morpheind) and for a reasonable price, I doubt that this is going to make a splash around here.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: Righ on March 15, 2007, 10:52:16 AM
Most of their future hinges on the success or failure of their portable media devices (Gravel In Hand and C200). Iconic name, but who really gives a shit any more?


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: shiznitz on March 15, 2007, 11:02:34 AM
Exactly. Yes the brand is iconic but it doesn't scream high quality or high performance. When I think of Commodore I think of some really good PC gaming in high school. I don't think about hardware.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: WayAbvPar on March 15, 2007, 11:05:31 AM
If it came with a retro Commodore 64 logo (and had 64 gigs of RAM  :-D ) I would seriously consider coughing up the cash for one. It would only cost me $5k and my marriage. What is that compared to nostalgia?


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: Yegolev on March 15, 2007, 01:12:46 PM
I think of a cassette tape drive.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: Damn Dirty Ape on March 15, 2007, 01:18:13 PM
I think of a cassette tape drive.

And 15 minutes to load Temple of Apshai.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4c/Temple_of_apshai.png)


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: DataGod on March 16, 2007, 09:24:21 AM
Oh I had the really early Com 64, tape drive took 30min to laof a stickman B & W game called....hmmmm Dungeon Master? it was a 1-3mb drive I cant recall...

What is this color stuff you speak of? :)


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: CmdrSlack on March 16, 2007, 11:52:01 AM
I remember getting in trouble in the computer lab in first grade because we figured out how to make the speech synth for the C64 say bad words.  We were also the dumbasses who figured out that it was easy to make the computers scroll "fuck you" or "eat shit" on the screens using simple commands in BASIC.  We were also six or seven years old, so I think that speaks to our maturity level.  Hurrah for 1982.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: Moorgard on March 17, 2007, 07:13:05 PM
Commodore can suck it. I want an Atari brand PC so that I can help make the future vision of Bladerunner come true.

Back in the days of the 8 and 16 bit wars, my friends and I were Atari for life.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: Kitsune on March 17, 2007, 09:51:51 PM
...

Sigh.

If only Commodore hadn't fucked themselves so badly back in the day.  This company isn't Commodore, of course.  This is a batch of people who bought the rights to the name and the logo; the Commodore of yesteryear ceased to exist as anything but a joke fifteen years ago.  Such a shame, they made good computers and a good OS.  Incompetence and greed sank their boat, denying us the benefit of competition in the OS market today.

Apple still doesn't count.





Neither does Linux.








And BeOS is right out.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: WindupAtheist on March 18, 2007, 11:16:05 AM
I want that simple black case with the Commodore logo on it.

I want it bad.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: Nebu on March 18, 2007, 01:02:00 PM
A commodore 64 was my upgrade to an old Atari 800. 

Temple of Apshai.  That brings back memories.  Memories of buying my first 5 1/4 floppy drive for $500.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: Righ on March 18, 2007, 05:58:39 PM
If only Commodore hadn't fucked themselves so badly back in the day.  This company isn't Commodore, of course.  This is a batch of people who bought the rights to the name and the logo; the Commodore of yesteryear ceased to exist as anything but a joke fifteen years ago.  Such a shame, they made good computers and a good OS.  Incompetence and greed sank their boat, denying us the benefit of competition in the OS market today.

You may enjoy reading this (I am):

http://www.variantpress.com/index.php?id=4

Its well written, contains good memories of the stuff you knew, and lots of behind the scenes stuff that you didn't.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: Righ on March 18, 2007, 06:07:02 PM
And 15 minutes to load Temple of Apshai.

And yet pretty fast on one of these:

http://www.c64dtv.co.uk/


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: Margalis on March 18, 2007, 07:53:22 PM
Temple of Apshai was awesome.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: Trippy on March 18, 2007, 08:08:07 PM
Temple of Apshai was awesome.
If you didn't mind waiting 5 minutes for each room to draw itself.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: Moorgard on March 18, 2007, 08:52:52 PM
You may enjoy reading this (I am):

http://www.variantpress.com/index.php?id=4

Its well written, contains good memories of the stuff you knew, and lots of behind the scenes stuff that you didn't.

There is a book called Zap: The Rise and Fall of Atari with a similar subject matter.

Like many Atari fanatics, I did envy the Amiga in that it was really the offspring of the Atari 8-bits, but Atari was too stupid to let Jay Miner build it for them.

I still remember the shock and horror that ran through my guts when Jack Tramiel bought Atari, though I did love the ST.

Those were fun times. Just imagine what the gaming landscape might be like if Atari and Commodore hadn't both blown it.


Title: Re: Commodore rises from grave - attempts to go all Alienware on our ass
Post by: WindupAtheist on March 20, 2007, 09:54:55 AM
I found the manual with the room descriptions online, downloaded an emulated version of the game, and went on a wee Temple of Apshai nostalgia kick for a couple days last year.  Getting to the equivalent of "high level" was pretty trivial now that I was no longer a kid.

EDIT:  This thread got me to fire up the emulator again and play Apshai in "warp mode".  At 16x speed it's like a 1983 Diablo.  :-D