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Title: the Grudge Report Post by: koboshi on March 22, 2004, 01:47:42 PM SCHILD: I mean Doom was an original. Yes. It did pave the way for Deus ex. yes.
SCHILD: but Deus is a masterpiece, doom is a piece of early nostalgia. Koboshi: I think it’s a valid fight I just think the wrong one is wining SCHILD: it is a valid fight. SCHILD: I never said it wasn't. SCHILD: But for doom to win is to blaspheme the unintended masterpiece that is deus ex. SCHILD: Doom far and away was a wolfenstein re-skin at first. Sure it proved to be better. But Deus Ex could be the best FPS ever made. Doom VS Deus Ex (http://gamespy.com/titlefight/matches/0301.shtml) Title: the Grudge Report Post by: Alluvian on March 22, 2004, 01:52:15 PM Why the hell does anyone care what gamespy readers think?
Title: the Grudge Report Post by: Dravalen on March 22, 2004, 02:00:35 PM Some would argue that SS2 was better than Deus Ex...
With that said I favor Revolutionary over Evolutionary, Doom. Title: the Grudge Report Post by: TripleDES on March 22, 2004, 02:07:22 PM Doom has a different and way more sophisticated "3D" engine than Wolfenstein. It's not a reskin. Former one is freeform 2.5D, latter one uses block maps (not to mention the inability to render floor and ceiling, next to the ugly ass graphics).
Title: the Grudge Report Post by: HaemishM on March 22, 2004, 03:19:17 PM Deus Ex, simply on the ability to allow "emergent gameplay."
Title: the Grudge Report Post by: Rodent on March 22, 2004, 04:03:24 PM Doom, Doom brought kickass deathmatch Deus Ex brought... nothing new, it was a prettier and not so scary System Shock 2.
Title: the Grudge Report Post by: Mesozoic on March 22, 2004, 04:45:49 PM For some reason this thread made me remember the first time I realized that dead nazis looked identical from any direction. Like their upturned soles were watching you.
Creepy. Title: the Grudge Report Post by: Alluvian on March 23, 2004, 07:22:56 AM Same with any dead bodies in Doom of course.
I would vote doom if I was not allergic to gamespy. I didn't like deus ex for some unfathomable reason. I tried so hard to like that game but just found it empty. I don't know how many accolades I would give to the doom engine being revolutionary. Ultima underworld released before them I believe and was a better engine really. Had maps that could do bridges *gasp* that you could go over and under. Also had an extra degree of freedom in the tilt that occured while in the water. Couldn't even go in water in doom. At least not that I recall. The only thing against UU was that the gameworld screen was pretty small with all the rpg trappings taking up too much space. But it would have worked fullscreen I suspect since my pathetic system at the time handled it fine. Title: the Grudge Report Post by: Ironwood on March 23, 2004, 08:42:21 AM Quote from: Dravalen Some would argue that SS2 was better than Deus Ex... Indeed. I am one of that some. Title: the Grudge Report Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on March 23, 2004, 11:21:10 AM A blind man with no arms would vote for Doom.
In fact, the only people that wouldn't, are people who weren't here for it. Title: the Grudge Report Post by: schild on March 23, 2004, 11:22:27 AM Quote from: Ironwood Quote from: Dravalen Some would argue that SS2 was better than Deus Ex... Indeed. I am one of that some. Some would argue that System Shock two wasn't a choice. Title: the Grudge Report Post by: HaemishM on March 23, 2004, 12:12:52 PM Quote from: Arcadian Del Sol A blind man with no arms would vote for Doom. In fact, the only people that wouldn't, are people who weren't here for it. I was. I voted against it. While Deus Ex would not have been made without Doom, Deus Ex was a monumental evolutionary leap in gameplay over the "FUCK IT MOVED KILL IT!" gameplay of Doom. Title: the Grudge Report Post by: Sloth on March 23, 2004, 12:49:43 PM Doom has better multiplayer still today, both DM and Coop, I don't think Deus Ex even has Co Op mode. Doom is also infintely easier to design levels for. However Deus Ex clearly wins on being the better game. Better story, RPG elements, and better graphics.
Title: the Grudge Report Post by: pants on March 23, 2004, 05:33:03 PM Quote from: HaemishM Quote from: Arcadian Del Sol A blind man with no arms would vote for Doom. In fact, the only people that wouldn't, are people who weren't here for it. I was. I voted against it. While Deus Ex would not have been made without Doom, Deus Ex was a monumental evolutionary leap in gameplay over the "FUCK IT MOVED KILL IT!" gameplay of Doom. You clearly haven't played it using the Wrath of St Paul walkthrough (http://www.it-he.org/deus.htm). Now this is a fun way to play through. Edit - This whole no-see-ums url links sucks. |