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Iron Realms, who do some pretty neat textual MUDs, have announced Earth Eternal (http://www.eartheternal.com).  Rather unusual as an announcement of an MMO, in that they reckon it'll be released this summer.  It seems to be diku-ish, just from the comparisions in their FAQ, and seems to be partly a version of earth, partly something very different.  It'll be free-to-play (with payment for character enhancements) and Matt Mihaly (regular at Terra Nova) says that they're already fully funded past release.  On the downside some of the character art looks like some sort of freaking furtopia.  I fear what people will want to do with a race called foxicus, given the wrong emotes...

Edit: Browser based play available, which is probably going to be an increasing trend

It's like Furtopia threw up on a copy of Lord of the Rings.

Given Iron Realms' history and where their older games came from, yes, it's what folks here would call "Diku". 

I like the art.  But no human races means no boobies, and if I can't play as a large breasted nonfurry human, I'm unhappy.

I kind of like the art, too.  I wouldn't mind being a non-furry boobified female so much if I could be a 'shroom.

I have tried to play Achaea twice.  This might be OK.  Hard to say.

Heh, heaven forbid that people make a game with humanoid animals. 

I know it's fun to bash furries and all, but does everything with humanoid animals HAVE to be designated as furry material?  What if the gameplay was like Robot Jesus? 

Bah, it's not like there'll ever be a game that this community actually considers to be Robot Jesus for more than a month after launch.  That said, playing as a giant shroom would rock.

ETA -- From the FAQ:

See?  Extra-dimensional Sphinxes!  How can't it not be awesome?

It's not that it's intrinsically furry material, more so that it attracts furries...

Yes.

smart man

The sad thing about the whole furry phenomenon is that you folks see something like this and automatically think "animal sex"

Your minds have been poisoned! Before you know it, you'll be afraid to even own a dog or cat, because somewhere out there some furry would want to have sex with it!

We don't just see animal sex.  We see hot animal MONKEY sex!

With hermaphroditic monkeys.

My cats are not bipedal, cannot speak, and do not have large breasts.   They're safe from the furrverts.

Rasix speaks truth.

However, you may want to consider canceling any family trips to Disney World. That anthropomorphic cesspit is no longer trustworthy in this brave new world.

I am sure Disney's rooftop snipers will take care of the furries if they cause trouble.

In a related matter, I'm actually looking forward to this game, and strongly hope that there are "Yiff" and "No-Yiff" server variants on launch day to contain the population of Foxicus RPers.

Because eventually, the furries will claim it as their own, and the Forced Yiff Marches will begin.

Hermaphroditic lactating monkeys

A sneak!

They have a class called a sneak! That is awesome.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_CHZ8z-t6M

Chocolate Jesus > Robot Wannabe


I Dont know about them robot jesus clones.....but I sure do luv mah chocolate jesus!

I live in fear that I'll get a hysterical call from my daughter while I'm at work and drive home to find SirBruce having consentual relations with her terrier.

Dude, don't mix furvert metaphors.  Sir Bruce != Shepherd.


This is the best random Tom Waits Link Evar and so you're my new hero for as long as it takes me to drink another beer.

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8830/thundercatsmq4.jpg)

So... Yes.

Those aren't humanoid animals. They're 'furries' in the same way Star Trek had 'aliens'.

Matt Mihaly's blog has some interesting tidbits (http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/01/10/earth-eternal-announced/ (http://forge.ironrealms.com/2007/01/10/earth-eternal-announced/)).  Theve got three "core" team members, some outsrouced art, and a six-figure budget.  Furries aside, it's a pretty interesting development in a space where everyone is looking for the next AAA $50m title.

The Thundercats are also now furry heroes. So, yes... anthropomorphic animal-people doodad critters bring furries even if it's unintended. Things that do not suck will eventually suck because of this.

"Furry" is such a strangely all encompassing term.

If you just like animals and want to impersonate them, there's probably no more harm in that than a 6 year old kid that want to be a penguin for Halloween, but you'll still get called a furry.

If you're downloading furry art that isn't crappy and find it aesthetically pleasing, maybe it has nothing to do with a fusion of animal and human and more to do with the artists' capacity to capture the beauty of either, but you'll still get called a furry.

If you're looking to use furry art as a circular way to express your sexual deviance due to an interest in homosexuality (not that there's anything wrong with that), pedophilia (which there is definitely something wrong with), or bestiality (see pedophilia comment), you'll get called a furry and in two out of three of the cases expressed here need psychological help.

In the end, "Furry" alone is not a sufficient label to bring about my scorn, but considering the possibilities it does at least put me on guard.

So, Earth Eternal - how does it play?  Given that its development probably wasn't very long, I'm thinking very rudimentary online RPG.

...then you're a GODDAMNED FURRY. Fuck, here, let's try this with childporn.

"Gee guys, I don't know. Just because there's a couple 4 year olds in this picture and a lot of dick, I'm more impressed with the way the light is bouncing off little Timmy's ass cheek. It reminds me of this obscure Ansel Adams piece I saw once at Museum Du Art Fag."

PEDO ALERT.

Seriously man. Fuck.

Here's the thing about furry-dom. THE BRAIN SAYS NO. IF IT DOESN'T SAY "NO" YOU'RE GODDAMN BROKEN. Oh, and a furry. Now, do I think the term furry is too broadly applied these days? Maybe, though I can't come up with an example. Wait, no, I can. An anime character who's only defining animal characteristic (or cosplayer for that matter) is some fake cat ears, well, it's a stretch to apply furry there. But applying it to "furry art," well, shit Winger, it's goddamn Furry art. No. It's furry DRAWINGS. I don't care if DaFuckingVinci painted it.

Now, in real life, can I function around someone who's into furry shit? Yea, probably. I can deal with a lot of shit that makes my skin crawl. But what I can't deal with is people who fucking rationalize it. No, I'm sorry, your brain is fucking broken.

Next.

Oh, this game will be a diku grind. No question. Genetics dudes, genetics.

Man I hate me some furries. Not because of the fetish. I really don't give a damn what they do with themselves. The problem is that you're wearing your fetish on your sleeve if I know you're a furry. And I don't want to know. People who like women to stamp on their cocks with high heels don't let me know what kind of fucked up shit they're into. More people should be like those people.

An online game with animalistic humanoids is just an excuse for every extroverted furry (ooh, redundancy) to shove their fetish in my face. So yeah... pass.

it's a thin edge of some wedge. Don't they tend to congregate?  Witness SL.

Yeah, heaven forbid that they congregate.  I mean, if they weren't conveniently bunched up into Furcadia, SL and a few other places, they might be sneaking into games for normals.  EQ2 has two "furry" races, but I've not heard tons of complaints about rampant yiffing there, so why is that?  Because the color pallate sucks?

ETA -- Seriously, shouldn't EQ2, by design, attract an asston of furries?

I have actually been denied a group because I wasn't a cat dude, whatever those things are called. This was on the PVP server that opened last year, too.

You can bet it's more popular on the PVE servers.

Anyways, furries. Yikes. The worst video I've ever seen involved furries. It was so bad I kept it in my "soul-stealing videos" folder but ZIPPED UP, so nobody accidentially clicked it. yiffmach.zip - think about it.


Now, when I was a kid in the Ozarks I liked wolves. I had a dog that was mostly wolf. I'd run around the forest with him and a slingshot and I'd try to shoot crows with steel ball bearings for ammo, and he would chase armadillos and field mice and all kinds of things. I had a wolf tshirt. 5 years later when I first hear of what a "furry" is, it blew mind. Despite my unhealthy association with wolves, the thought had never crossed my mind that I should dress up in a wolf costume and frolic with other people in animal costumes.

We griefed Furcadia when UO was down during UO beta. A very simplified version of the Secondlife griefing you'll see on SA and other places. The only reason I can see to play this game would be to grief disturbed people, and that is even a long shot because apparently you'd have to pay a monthly fee to get access.

Nope, as i said in the OP your furry-griefing comes free.  Payment model is for character enhancements.  Which, hopefully, does not mean huge, dangly animal penises.

If I created a Hyena/Humanoid comic book character, who was kind of modeled after Wez from the Road Warrior, does that make me a furry?

I don't know, Stray.  This whole thread has started to give me that dangerous buzzing in my ears I get just before I say something really, really strange. 

Probably but not neccessarily, maybe/if. There's alot of stuff that needs to be seen in context. It might mean your art is derivative crap but that's another issue.

I liked Hanna Barbara cartoons too. Not sure if that makes me a furry.

In fact, I never even heard the word furry, and knew nothing about that crazy scene, until I first came to this site.  :-P

[EDIT]

The Hyena in question was just one character among many, in a sci fi like/alternate universe. Basically, I watched one too many National Geographic episodes about the Sahara, and thought it'd be cool if all of those species were humanoids on a planet based on Africa. Most animals follow their apparent stereotypes. Hyenas, for example, were kind of marauders and bandits. Hence, Wez. It had nothing to do with crazy Bunny Boys fucking crazy Bunny Girls.

Sure but remember what I said: if there's a human-animal hybrid somewhere there's a furry group coopting it. They make things which do not suck start to suck. See: Thundercats, Silverhawks, Yogi Bear porn

Yeah, the furries are worse than the [insert hated minority group here].  Let's [start up the killing device of choice]. 

Seriously, there's sexual kinks that coopt every part of your life.  And almost all of pop culture.  I blame Japan.

The difference is that the foot fetishists aren't having fucking parades and bemoaning the fact they're persecuted. Or what Schild said. I'm not terribly interested in having this debate.

Every time someone starts discussing furries, I think of Garth's line from Wayne's World and laugh.

"Did you ever think that Bugs Bunny was hot, when he dressed up like a girl?" 

That's about as much thought as I put into it.  Seeing some of you getting all riled up gives me an even bigger laugh.

Yeah, that is what I said at the end of the sentence.  How I was differentiating it was that there's different motivations behind the label, some more justifiably demonizing than others.  To think otherwise is to freak out when you're in Disneyland and see a guy wearing a Mickey Mouse outfit.  Relax, that's a college student suckered into wearing that with promises of cheap tuition, not a pedophile given license to harvest every stray kid in Sleeping Beauty Castle.

Matt Mihlay's Earth Eternal probably wasn't developed to cater to the pedophiles, but he does run the risk of them moving in if a certain clique looks at the animal-esque races and thinks they're being invited.

Furries do that anywhere but SL?

My biggest problem with furries has always been that every furry I've ever known feels obligated to defend his twisted fetish publicly as if it was a goddamn badge of honor. Frankly, I don't give a fuck if you are a furry so long as I don't know about it. You don't hear me discussing what gets my rocks off, do you? No, because it's none of your goddamn business. If furries would learn to shut the fuck up and yiff in private with other furries, like almost every other sexual human does, we'd all get along swimmingly. But when you feel the need to post in gaming threads about how great being humped by another man in a bunny costume is the most normal thing in the world, you've crossed into my "Eat shit and die" category.

Isn't it funny how we've barely talked about Matt's game because we know how many furries will be attracted to it?

Maybe if it was likely to be anything more than a cheap Diku as already suggested.

This man is very wise.

When people whip themselves into a tizzy over Gorean retards, then maybe I'll see how this is something beyond this community.  I can't think of the last time any furry types even posted on these or any other spinoff/diaspora forums.  I mean, yeah, they're strange and all, but aside from SB and Shepherd, I can't think of any others that really posted a ton.  Oh, there was those other two weirdos from P2P.  Other than that, I can't really think of a time when they've been the menace that everyone makes them out to be.

Aside from a large presence in SL, which everyone here stupposedly avoids for being teh suck anyway, I haven't even SEEN furries around lately.  Granted, I haven't looked for them either.  Out of all of the things to get worked up over/channel hate and rage towards, furries are pretty low on my list.  But then again, maybe I've just mellowed out over the years.  So long as nobody posts Winger to threads, I don't see these furry parades, nor do I ever see public yiffing...well, anywhere, really.  For fuck's sake, doesn't WoW have an anthropomorphic animal race?  Is there a bunch of Tauren-only yiffing that happens in Alterac Valley?

Well, whatever, I guess to each their own hangups.  I personally hate clowns.  Maybe it's the same thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYkI7t-Xm9Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CXtggT9o3o

Never seen any furries, either. Nope, never.

Remember that line in "Heathers" where the mom says, "Most people who complain about wanting to be treated like adults are complaining because they ARE being treated like adults?" Switch the word adult with normal. You have some kind of kink, fine. I have some. We all have some. But if you're going to walk around in a fucking fur suit don't get pissed off because people go "ZOMG that dude is in a fur suit! FUCKED UP!" because that's what I'd do to any normal person. It's not persecution (scuse me, FURsecution) it's laughing at retards.

Right, fine.  But you're the one saying that Furries are everywhere trying to push their agenda and whatnot, especially in games with anthropomorphic animal avatars.  Those appeared to be videos from furry conventions -- and hey, feel free to mock them.  That doesn't really prove that they're in games evangeliyiffing to the playerbase.  I'm sure it happens, just as nonfurry types are caught cybering.  That shit is also funny.  I am just rather amused that so many people get so worked up about one specific kind of kink to the point of almost declaring some kind of furry illuminati conspriacy. 

But hey, I guess it gives me even more people to laugh at...furries and people who obsessively decry furries to the point of finding links to videos of the thing that revolts them the most...on youtube.  So was that googlefu or was that bookmarked?  Oh wait, you weren't terribly interested in having that debate.   :roll:

poetv if you must know. You've seriously never seen the tauren yiff literature and stuff in that vain? Christ, go to the wow forums on any of the rp forums and read between the lines; fully half the tauren player posts have that subtext. They're not going to come and march me away into dogfuckerville but they're there.

Good job on that bookmarking the furry sites thing. Hi-larity.

I don't go looking for stuff  that I don't like and generally, I try to avoid all text, but subtext especially -- it's just icky.  Also, I've never played WoW, so that must be it.

The more popular the game, the more likely you'll have a thriving culture of whatever playing it.

I am aware that it is page 2. But did we stray from the thread title? Maybe just a little? Ya, I am not supposed to post at night but no genitals are involved at least tonight.

It's not that furries are everywhere pissing in the coolaid and making life hell. It's that they are defined by their fetish, so if you ever meet someone you know to be a furry you already know way more about them than is pleasant. There isn't even a word for most of the fetishes in the world, they're just "people who do/like X". Why do furries need their own name? Because they get off on getting together and acting the goddamn victim cause everybody thinks they're all kinds of fucked up for letting us know the crazy shit they do. I haven't ran into a furry for a while. Mostly because they've been pushed out of every community I visit/am part of, and I specifically stay away from places where they congregate.

I don't have a special hate reserved for furries, its just the generic hate I feel towards the various types of people I despise. I feel it pays to keep a list and then vent your whole spleen on whichever of those groups is being discussed in the moment. Very theraputic.

How the hell do you even remotely find a community that a furry would be part of? What kind of crowds are those then? Where do these people come from? Like I said, I never knew any of them existed until someone here said something about SirBruce.

SirBruce said he wasn't a furry but didn't mind them and would basically hit anything that has a below the waist.  Personally, I don't care what people do as long as they don't tell me anything unless I ask.  Make sure I ask at least twice because sometimes my mouth/fingers accidentally blurt out, "tell me!", before my brain understands what I'm asking for.

I thought all one had to do was find the latin word for whatever they like, and add "philia" at the end.

As far as the game, do you think they'll cancel it?  Will this particular discussion have the same effect on the game as when we ridiculed "romans in space" had on that other game?

I imagine just typing "furry" into google would bring up a community forum or three. They are pretty easy to avoid these days because they tend to keep to their own communities due to everyone pushing them out of the more general communities. So if you don't go into specifically furry territory you are unlikely to run into one. The exception apparently being SL, which I decided was crap before I even knew more than the name so I'm not sure why it has a furry community.

Aside from it being not entirely crap (there's some good ideas there), there's tons of furries in SL largely because the community there is more tolerant and because the building tools allow them to build their own avatars, etc.

When I said "crap" I of course meant "crap for me". And it is, I don't like the premise at all, and knew what the premise was before knowing anything about the game because of who it was made by/for. :P

Oh yeah, I just obviously have a different opinion.  I just get weary with the general "SL sucks and is full of sex perverts" meme.  While it's largely true, there's some value in it if you look for it.  Also, I like building stuff -- it's like legos, but with lag and more flexibility.

The less a game has to discuss, the less likely it is to predict where people will jump to in the feature list.

SL provides good insight into what people would do if we all had our own nanobots. There's actually a lot of really whacked people out there. SL gets the credit here because it's about the only world with real building tools most people here no about (for lack of interest in looking for the others). But that's guilt by association. SL attracts because people can build stuff there, not because of anything Linden Labs tries to do. Without SL, nutjobs would be back in Photoshop and Maya.

Not enough emotes.

Aside from the somewhat-entertaining furry-hate-debate (and I've never known or had any contact with furries, but have come across more than one pair of dark/high/half elves cybering in EQ1), who exactly is Matt Mihaly and why does he get his name in front of the game's title, Sid Meier-style?

He was a wiz on BatMUD (http://www.bat.org/bat.php).  Which is nice because it's an lpmud.  And  this.  (http://www.ironrealms.com/)  And that virtual weapon asset whatchamadoohickey.

Nowadays, I don't think you could really 'stumble upon' furry stuff, unless you wanted to. Back in the nascent days of the intardnet, it was easier than you'd think.

Case in point, myself. I had just moved to Seattle, had no social outlets, so I was playing MUDs. Got a little bored with MUDs, but I'd heard of these things called MUSHes, that were more RP oriented, purportedly aiming at a more literate audience.

I end up on StarWars MUSH. So far so good. Some fun roleplay as an Imperial interrogator. Next thing I know I'm interrogating some person who's roleplaying a cat-like race. This person, a purported 'she', is a decent roleplayer. A few weeks go by, her 'trust' in me grows, and I get an innocent little in game mail to come 'fetch' her at 232.122.21.90 (an example, not a real IP).

Remember now, I have no earthly clue whatsoever what a furry is. I've never heard of it. In my early 20s, not exactly a spring chicken, I've not even concieved of the notion that someone could be sexually drawn to lifeforms with fur. It just doesn't compute.

So I telnet into the above address, see the title of the MOO or MUCK as FurryLand or whatever, and I STILL don't think about it much. I say to myself, "she role plays a cat person, so maybe its some infantile or otherwise innocent desire to explore her 'cat self'" and proceed to log into the above mentioned site. Next thing I know, Chargen is asking me to be an animal before I'm even allowed to send my friend a tell. So I uhm, make an animal character of some sort. I do it completely wrong, however, since I actually create a cat, not a cat-person. Total newb to this furry business.

I finally get into the main gathering area after chargen, and it doesn't take long before the realisation dawns on me that there is a STRONG sexual element to this site. I log out in a fat hurry but feel wierded out for weeks thereafter.

He doesn't actually get that billing: I added it as description for the thread title.  Matt is well-enough known in certain game design circles that I thought it was worth adding - it was his involvement that made me interested in the first place - but I can see that others might be more "who?"

Given that there was a CSI episode about furries and a BBC mini-documentary (amongst other things) I'd venture that it's quite a bit easier to run across furry stuff than you think.

Sounds like you lost your.......FURGINITY.

I'm glad that we can trust you to catalogue all appearances of furries everywhere.  Clearly, you are just taking one for the team.  Can you publish a pamphlet that helps teh rest of us avoid them?   :-D

Fuck ya baby - let the monkey brain reign - what do we see? HOT MONKEY SEX! HOT MONKEY SEX! HOT MONKEY SEX!

Ok then, I'm done for a bit...

You can subscribe to my newsletter, yes. What can I say, I'm a junkie for weird shit like dead baby sites and furry convention videos. Sue me.

This is the way I am as well. My problem with furries is that I don't think I've ever met a furry that could resist telling me they were a furry, then defending furdom as "normal" when I got all weirded out by the idea. I don't care if you are a furry so long as I don't know about it. The minute I do, I just want to go back to that warm puddle of ignornance about your sexual fetishes, a place that I didn't picture you getting assfucked by a dude in a unicorn costume while watching Care Bears' episodes.

It's full of pr0n of all types too, including user-built pr0n.

One should always know where there are sources of pr0n.

It'd true... we'd be none the wiser unless they galloped up to us in a big fuzzy panda suit and tell us with their very own soft plushy muzzles.  I enjoy being none the wiser.

Dammit.

No, I can't even grief this. It's too painful.

[img ]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/EmpyreanBand/catform.jpg[/img]

...

Ew. :(

I think Trouble wins.  Let's put this behind us.  I mean, forget about it.

I was going to do the "You sound awfully defencive, are you sure you're not a furry?" line, but then I realised that if you were a furry you'd have told us already. :evil:

Heh, nope, not a furry, just someone who doesn't understand being hung up on their existence.  Considering that I said earlier that they're not my cup of tea, you'd have been wrong anyway.   :-P

seems like  EE has responded  (http://www.eartheternal.com/faq.php) to this issue today (via KTR (http://www.killtenrats.com/?p=919)):

I emailed him when the thread disolved into furridom and he told me that too:


I thought he was kidding but now I'm not so sure!  I like humour and I can say sincerely that MUD devs have seen everything and can handle nearly anything.  A good sense of humour is an absolute staple.  Of course, I'll give this a go... I give everything a go.  And I used to love BatMUD!  I will be a bunny, of course, and not on a furry server, which I suggest they name Slurry.  Hopefully, he'll come back and chat with us as things develop.  With luck it'll be more fun than furry. 

(http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/bunny.gif)

ARISE!

Beta Keys to get your furry on.

http://www.freemmogamer.com/2009/01/earth-eternal-closed-beta-keys-giveaway.html

http://tentonhammer.com/giveaways/ee_beta

The Ten Ton Hammer one requires an account.  The other you just click on the 'gimmie' button and it's done.

How's the NDA?
I was invited to Beta but getting my furry on isnt something I'm good at.  Is there anything "anti"-furry in the game?  Like a redneck hunter or something?

No idea on the NDA.  I was told they have keys and that's all I've done, so you know as much or more than I do now.  Work's been hectic today.

I grabbed a key from Massively and made an account but it doesn't recognize the key.  Bye.

WTF!


Why bother running a beta if you are barely going to have servers up?

It's a trick to only take opinion on folks with genuine interest in testing.  Happens a lot.  I'm not that interested though.

Naw, that's when their Mom is out drinking and they can run her computer as a server.

Welp, I got my key. My foxman will have a phallus that puts others to shame.

They issued (or ussued, as they spelled it in the email) new  keys due to some error or something.  I got an email with a new key the other day.  I haven't downloaded it yet or anything though. 

I enjoy the artwork done for this game. Cant say i have paid much more atention than that. I hear they are unabashedly aiming for kids and early teens. It will probably work.

The armor refashioner thing is  :drill:.

I found http://contest.bbgsite.com/giveaway/earth_eternal/ has more free keys if you still are interested to try Earth Eternal :D

Thanks for the link, I've deleted you because you'll never show up again anyway.

necro

Earth Eternal is in open beta now.  I spent several hours on this trying to figure it out.  Not the gameplay, that is quite straightforward.  But the business model.  Anyway, here are some thoughts.

EE is a free-to-play browser-based MMO with microtransactions.  The gameplay will be quite familiar to anyone who has played, well, any MMO.  The basic quest grind is there.  No PVP.  Crafting is there, but I never accumulated enough mats to make anything.  Only saw one recipe drop, and some mats dropped that apparently didn't go along with my recipe.  It is streamlined PvE questing: go kill ten boars, kill a named, collect plants, fedex.  Some instancing.

Graphics are nice for a flash/browser based game.  Certainly no LOTRO, but that isn't what they were going for here.  Art style is cartoony and pleasantly mythic, maybe childlike.

Character generation is simple.  You choose from a wide variety of races, most of which are furry.  A few non-furry races were added, so I picked one of those.  Race is purely cosmetic.  A few very basic customizations, but you can be any color you want.  Four class choices: Knight (tank vs DPS), Rogue (melee DPS), Mage (?ranged nuke), and Druid (ranged + heals).  I don't know who does crowd control, etc because I never needed a big group doing the lower level stuff.  Anyway, you choose your race, class, and first and last names and off you go.

Newbie areas are well done.  Tutorial island, followed by a larger island newbie area, followed by an even larger island newbie area before being ported to the "main" world.  Definitely by the time you get to the main world you have the basic gameplay down.

World shards exist but you can move from one to another, and global chat is "regional" across all shards.  Chat is adequate with the expected channels, tells, clans, and a few emotes.  Servers seem stable.  Nothing blatantly broken that I found.

I did not see any player economy, but I've only made it to about level 15 or so.

Combat is autoattack with special attacks on a quickbar.  Autoattack doesn't do much so you'll be watching those cooldown timers.  Some skills combo off of each other.

The longer you PVE without dying the better your item drops: increased "Luck."  When you die, you have an option of paying gold to mitigate the loss of Luck.  Forego the gold loss and you and take on a timed stat penalty as well as having to rebuild more Luck.  No item loss or exp loss.

Lots of gear and loot drops, at least as a lowbie.  Drag and drop inventory and paper doll.

Skill progression is done with ability points, which you get a few each level and can buy with credits (fairly cheaply, too).  At level 15, I had enough points for all of the skills that were available in my class.  If I wanted some extra healing skills, I would have to pick up some credits.  Looks like a lot of skills, and you can cross to other class skills with enough points.  I believe some core skills are restricted to class, however.

Money is made by buying credits.  Credits are used in an online credit shop accessible at all times from your in-game UI.  Most of the purchases are temporary buffs, like run speed, exp gain, and modest stat boosts.  There are some more interesting ones: a way to sell vendor trash at 80% of shop value, increased inventory space, and a turkey hat.  Aside:  I am very much over holiday celebrations in my MMOGs.  Not to go all "war on christmas" here, but the world does not need another online pumpkin helm or turkey hat or Harvest Festival.  Anyway, you can also get credits by buying third-party products through the EE web gateway, which is interesting.

Permanent stat boosts are possible, but capped and expensive.  A 15% increase in a base stat (does not count equip bonuses) is $30/3000 credits.  Some forum goers are complaining that this is not a good buy.  I guess we will see what the market will bear.

Since this is a browser based game, I decided to try EE on my work box, which is a piece of utter junk.  And the game runs; a few crashes, but overall it's playable.

I've played other IRE games, been off and on Achaea for years.  Thrown a few bucks Matt's way.  Other than the existence of credits and macro-microtransactions, this game has nothing in common with the text-based worlds.  Which is fine.  The question is:  In 2009, with all my other options, do I still want to kill ten boars, even for free? 

And finally, this game is furry.  Very furry.  I'm sure they knew this fact when they were building it, but damn.   :pedobear:  :pedobear:   :pedobear:   :ye_gods:

Sooooo cannibalism then?

I see it more as an internecine feud. 

Anyway, there are 140 pages of lore (http://www.eartheternal.com/EEHistory.pdf), maybe it gets explained there.

Pedobear has nothing to do with furries.

(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h88/bzalthek/Pedobear_and_furry_free_hugs5.jpg)

Wow, I missed this thread the first time around, and now its been rezzed.

Wow.

Wooo... I cant wait to make me a Randicoon....  :ye_gods:

Matt Mihaly swore that he wasn't going for the furry crowd, but I don't see how he wasn't.  This extreme furriness couldn't be an accident!

But a turkey hat!  It almost tempts me.  Almost.

Prognostication accurate?
[ ] Yes
[ ] No

I too missed this thread the first time. My only thought is, holy crap, Matt Milhaly made a graphical MUD?

This rocks.  I'm rolling a Lisbian. :oh_i_see:

Holy crap this is.......interesting.

Playing as Cyclops Druid, Leela West.

I wanted to give this a chance, but playing Aion then trying EE.... not such a good switch in the graphics department.

I know there's probably a million reasons why they didn't, but I wish this game used the Unity3d engine like Cartoon Network's Fusion Fall, which was able to produce a MUCH nicer aesthetic as a result.

You guys remember that this is a browser game, right?  Suitable for the office, too.

Since when was yiffing suitable for the office?

Oh, I don't know.  I reckon most people here skive at work so at least it isn't porn.

Tried it a little bit, got up to level 5. Typical gameplay. I just don't like the character models though. They all have this squat, midget body type with arms longer than their legs.

I gave it a whirl yesterday, and I didn't see any yiffing, but then I didn't go searching for it, either.  Plenty of stupid in the regional chat, anyway.  Game itself was ok.  Got to level 10 w/ a rogue.  Pretty typical stuff.  But, it's free.  You can buy credits for new armor looks, run speed potions of various lengths, xp boosts, and the like.  You can also just buy advancement points for your character.  Not sure what the costs are, as I didn't bother checking.

What the heck does skive mean in that context?  I'm pretty sure you don't mean "To cut thin layers off (leather or rubber, for example)"  :awesome_for_real:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skive - To skive is British slang for the practice of avoiding responsibilities because you want to do something more fun or just don't want to do what you should be doing.

RIP Earth Eternal.

http://www.eartheternal.com/news/Announcements/some-bad-news

Knowing the game development is done and reading that first post to this thread are kind of lol. 

Thats a shame.

2 months looking for revenue? Isn't that a bit short sighted?

Investment and revenue are not the same thing. He did not spend 2 months looking for revenue.

I put this in the running for best quote from a dev ever (http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=117210518332122&id=81193748534):