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Title: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Akkori on December 26, 2006, 09:36:03 AM Email I got today...
Quote No access fees, no subscription...Dark and Light Game Access becomes free*! Dark and Light, new access mode revealed: Discovery Mode Come back to Ganareth and invite your friends to join you in this adventure! It’s all very simple: All you need to start playing is a valid Dark and Light Forum account. It’s free: As soon as your forum account is activated, you can start playing immediately for free. No time limit: This access is active for the whole lifetime of Dark and Light. What’s the trick? No trick, just the goal to give most players the chance to start an unlimited adventure in the world of Ganareth. From the 10th level, the gamer continues the adventure with no limit but he cannot collect more XP points (Fighting, Social, and Craft). If he decides to keep progressing though Ganareth, he will have to buy a Dark and Light activation key and will have to choose to be either a Freedom or a Master player. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Nonentity on December 26, 2006, 12:47:57 PM Somebody find the D&L Pile of Feces picture. I can't find it.
This thread needs it badly. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Sairon on December 26, 2006, 12:48:57 PM I belive it's called a trial, not a free game, when you're limited to level 10 :roll:
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: geldonyetich on December 26, 2006, 12:59:17 PM A better price for settling any doubts that the game is a hacked together product of amateurs, I could not ask for.
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Nonentity on December 26, 2006, 01:10:40 PM I FOUND IT.
From a post (http://www.corpnews.com/node/140) on CorpNews. EDIT: No hotlinking to the image, just click on the darn link. It's worth it. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: geldonyetich on December 26, 2006, 02:26:53 PM Corpnews dislikes teh grieflink.
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: geldonyetich on December 26, 2006, 02:28:42 PM ...Or maybe Corpnews dislikes being up at all right now. Getting, "you do not have permission to access" messages from all corpnews pages right now.
I'm so vain, I probably think that error message is about me. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: sam, an eggplant on December 26, 2006, 04:16:33 PM They've been desperate for a long time since the game is dogshit, but a level limited trial doesn't really mean anything special. Now if they let you play for free with ads like AO, that would be telling.
Title: Re: Dark & Light [s]getting[/s] desperate? Post by: damijin on December 26, 2006, 04:35:30 PM getting?
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Akkori on December 26, 2006, 09:03:03 PM I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the shitty client d/l and patch process we had to go through when SoG launched. I got my first exposure to torrents, and wasn't impressed. If they have fixed that and made a decent "launchpad" that takes care of all relevant downloads and patches, then I'll try it out. It's free, after all. Maybe.
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: SurfD on December 26, 2006, 11:29:40 PM Holy mother of god that UI is hideous.
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: geldonyetich on December 27, 2006, 02:39:34 AM Am I the only one getting "you don't have permission to access \" errors when I try to go to corpnews?
It'd be funny if that was how I discovered I was preemptively Ip banned considering i'm on a dynamic IP. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: WindupAtheist on December 27, 2006, 02:59:48 AM Hi. I know nothing about D&L. Why is that little man digging through a pile of poop??
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Signe on December 27, 2006, 07:42:44 AM What llittle man? What pile of poop? Christmas was over days ago. Stop drinking!
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Nonentity on December 27, 2006, 08:59:20 AM What llittle man? What pile of poop? Christmas was over days ago. Stop drinking! Look at my links! You can be a part of this ice cream social, too! Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Signe on December 27, 2006, 11:01:39 AM What links? Where? You're having a laugh at me, aren't you? :x
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: geldonyetich on December 27, 2006, 11:14:17 AM Ah, so I'm not the only one for whom this link (http://www.corpnews.com/node/140) is dead?
It hink I've seen the screenshot he's referring to from a loong time back. Basically, it's a crappy screenshot of somebody finding a pile of rocks labeled a pile of execrement or somesuch. If you can pull it up, do us a favor and host it somewhere that doesn't seem to have screwed up DNS/Hosting/Priorities. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Nonentity on December 27, 2006, 11:16:00 AM What links? Where? You're having a laugh at me, aren't you? :x The word 'post' in my reply number 4! They would not let me hotlink the image, so go. GO! IT IS IMPERATIVE YOU SEE THIS! Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Nonentity on December 27, 2006, 11:21:55 AM Ah, so I'm not the only one for whom this link (http://www.corpnews.com/node/140) is dead? It hink I've seen the screenshot he's referring to from a loong time back. Basically, it's a crappy screenshot of somebody finding a pile of rocks labeled a pile of execrement or somesuch. If you can pull it up, do us a favor and host it somewhere that doesn't seem to have screwed up DNS/Hosting/Priorities. Okay. (http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/3912/darkandlightexcrementvj0.jpg) I think the graphic is amazing - a pile of rocks, with various piles of feces sitting on them, scattered about. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Signe on December 27, 2006, 12:41:27 PM You seem to have found 5 Goths in that pile of shit!
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Nonentity on December 27, 2006, 12:52:32 PM You seem to have found 5 Goths in that pile of shit! Well, I can't say that I didn't know where Goths hung out all along. This just seals the deal. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: ajax34i on December 28, 2006, 10:27:52 AM Hi. I know nothing about D&L. Why is that little man digging through a pile of poop?? My impressions from years ago: it is/was a game based on a graphics engine; they started with this engine that allowed them to apply level-of-detail to stuff miles away (f.ex. a mountain would look like a mountain does from a distance, rather than an oversized cone-shaped rock like in WoW) and then you could also travel there, with the LOD system gradually showing you local details (trees, grass, etc). That was it, and they tried to attach a team PvP game onto that engine, but, of course everything about their lore, races, and classes was chaotic and mumbo-jumbo with no actual order or sense, and I wasn't really interested in PvP at the time, so I stopped being interested. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: damijin on January 06, 2007, 09:37:06 AM Just found this in a thread on MMORPG.com, according to a member of the DnL staff, if you want to cancel your account you'll need to hand over $10:
Quote from this thread on the DnL forums (http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69825): Quote there is no way to completely cancel/erase your account using the dark and light website, you can switch to freedom package but that will cost 9.99$, but after that there is no monthly cost. you do switch to freedom package here: http://www.darkandlight.net/selfservice.php3 There are other ways to "cancel" your account but those ways are not official and they cant be found on this website. Wow. Just... wow. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Signe on January 06, 2007, 03:33:30 PM I read that. I can't think of anything other than, "HA", to say.
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Tale on January 06, 2007, 03:50:41 PM lol
Edit: Is this the ultimate fanboy post? (http://www.darkandlight.net/forums/showthread.php?t=69649) Quote from: Lord Feste, SOG #138 Pioneer Subject: Cheerio Cheers to DnL. With my available play-time sorely limited at the moment, DnL isn't at the top of my list of games I'm keeping active. It's been a lot of fun over the past year, and I've certainly had my money's worth of entertainment from my pioneer pack, and the double charged monthly sub I paid not so long ago. There is no cancellation button, so I've put my request in via the support form, and also requested cancellation of my click & buy account, just to be on the safe side. Hope you all have a great time in Ganareth, and I'll likely return at some point once my free-time becomes free enough to devote to more than one game. Kroy. __________________ The oldest Light guild in Ganareth. Still here, still fighting, still recruiting. mystical-awakening.net Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Signe on January 06, 2007, 03:54:47 PM Damn. I should have said lol.
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Etro on January 09, 2007, 07:43:21 AM Quote from: Lord Feste, SOG #138 Pioneer Subject: Cheerio Cheers to DnL. With my available play-time sorely limited at the moment, DnL isn't at the top of my list of games I'm keeping active. It's been a lot of fun over the past year... I scares me to think what this person would call an adrenaline rush :-o Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Nonentity on January 09, 2007, 07:49:32 AM Every month they send me a notice saying I owe them money.
I canceled literally hours after downloading the client, using the Click & Buy system. Now, I bought the client many months ago. You would think that if I were being billed consistently since the client came out, I'd be charged about 10 bucks a month, so it came out in what, August? But this bill is only for like, 25 bucks. Which indicates to me that my account was canceled, and then REACTIVATED WITHOUT MY CONSENT. They haven't responded to any of my support request e-mails. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Azaroth on January 09, 2007, 08:03:37 AM I wonder if they honestly think this kind of thing will make them more money in the long run. Or have they completely given up at this point and have given in to the fact that all that's left is to make a couple thousand extra by cheesing people and essentially stealing money?
I don't know exactly how much money went into Dark & Light, but it might seem to me that a better course of action would be to quietly, even if slowly, improve the game over the next year, two years, even three years.. then give a comeback a try. Ala Anarchy Online, in a way. As opposed to, you know, scarring the name of your game and company for eternity. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Nonentity on January 11, 2007, 06:41:18 AM At least they finally responded:
Quote Dear Client, We are sorry for the inconvenience that might have been caused by this email and would be grateful if you could forgive us. This is due to an error caused by one robot of our payment processor which has generated a totally unfounded mail. We have of course cancelled these bills. As requested, we have cancelled your account. Regards, BlackMaster The DnL support Team They blame it on robots. Fucking robots. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: sinij on January 11, 2007, 07:14:24 AM slowly, improve the game over the next year, two years, even three years.. then give a comeback a try I don't think you get a comeback in mmorpg, once you release and flop there is no coming back from that. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Endie on January 11, 2007, 07:38:21 AM slowly, improve the game over the next year, two years, even three years.. then give a comeback a try I don't think you get a comeback in mmorpg, once you release and flop there is no coming back from that. That was received wisdom, certainly, but Eve broke that rule with a long and slow but very steady recovery. AO is a more arguable proposition, I admit, but I've heard it suggested. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Signe on January 11, 2007, 07:41:24 AM They should hire Themis Group to insure a long and painful death.
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: sinij on January 11, 2007, 07:43:26 AM They should hire Themis Group to insure a long and painful death. :rimshot:Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: slog on January 11, 2007, 10:41:56 AM slowly, improve the game over the next year, two years, even three years.. then give a comeback a try I don't think you get a comeback in mmorpg, once you release and flop there is no coming back from that. That was received wisdom, certainly, but Eve broke that rule with a long and slow but very steady recovery. AO is a more arguable proposition, I admit, but I've heard it suggested. It could be argued that Eve's success was not a recovery but rather a plan to start out small and build up. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Evangolis on January 11, 2007, 01:59:46 PM slowly, improve the game over the next year, two years, even three years.. then give a comeback a try I don't think you get a comeback in mmorpg, once you release and flop there is no coming back from that. That was received wisdom, certainly, but Eve broke that rule with a long and slow but very steady recovery. AO is a more arguable proposition, I admit, but I've heard it suggested. It could be argued that Eve's success was not a recovery but rather a plan to start out small and build up. I also think there is a difference in people leaving because "Your game is not for me" vs. "Your game is a pile of excrement". One is a recoverable experience, the other is not. Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Falconeer on March 31, 2007, 07:58:49 AM Yay! Dark and Light is now completely (http://darkandlight.com/en_new-billing-system-and-partner.html) free! Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Signe on March 31, 2007, 10:04:14 AM Yes, it appears to have gone free because they can't afford a billing service. :lol:
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: WindupAtheist on March 31, 2007, 01:39:04 PM The forums are fascinating. Makes SWG seem like a thriving vibrant community.
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Venkman on March 31, 2007, 04:54:29 PM Is there anything redeeming enough about this game to make it worth checking out?
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: WindupAtheist on March 31, 2007, 06:58:24 PM I considered it, just because it's free, but... man those forums. Even the people playing it are just waiting for it to die.
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Azaroth on March 31, 2007, 07:07:20 PM So what's the score? What are the (edit: working) features, what's wrong with it?
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: WindupAtheist on March 31, 2007, 08:28:48 PM I don't even know. The only clear complaint was that nobody plays anymore. And that the developers are totally incompetent in every way. And that shutdown is imminent. I think they're beyond wailing about individual issues.
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Falconeer on April 01, 2007, 01:38:20 AM If you thought Vanguard was brown, prepare for the ultimate shit-coloured experience.
Title: Re: Dark & Light getting desperate? Post by: Akkori on April 06, 2007, 08:19:28 AM I may go back again just to fly around some. I did like the free-flight system. Much better than the sorry excuse in WoW. And you can snowboard, lol.
It would probably be useful for someone with time to go in and check it out then give us a review. |