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Title: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: bhodi on October 24, 2006, 02:07:40 PM It's all over the net but I'll post it here for you too; stock up now, either for yourself or the AH gouging... you need to afford that epic flying mount somehow, right?
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=35793822&sid=1 http://forums.elitistjerks.com/viewtopic.php?id=9009 Quote Shopping list: 120 copper bar 20 malachite 20 shadowgem 200 coarse stone 20 bronze bar (= 10 copper bar, 10 tin bar) 80 silver bar 15 jade 100 heavy stone 40 iron bar 70 gold bar 20 citrine 35 aquamarine 60 mithril bar 50 truesilver bar 45 star ruby 295 thorium bar 40 large opal 20 huge emerald 10 large fang 50 flask of mojo 20 powerful mojo 20 essence of earth What to do: skill 1-30ish: 60 delicate copper wire (needs: 120 copper bar) skill 30ish-50: malachite pendant until skill 50 (needs: 1 malachite, 1 delicate copper wire each) skill 50-70: 20 coarse stone statue (needs: 200 coarse stone) skill 70-80: 10 elegant silver ring (needs: 20 silver bar) skill 80-110: 30 ring of silver might (needs: 60 silver bar) skill 110-120: 10 heavy stone statue (needs: 100 heavy stone) skill 120-130: 10 ring of twilight shadows (needs: 20 shadowgem, 20 bronze bar) skill 130-135: 5 barbaric iron collar (needs: 10 large fang, 40 iron bar, 10 delicate copper wire) skill 135-150: 15 golden dragon ring (needs: 15 jade, 30 gold bar, 30 delicate copper wire) skill 150-180: 30 mithril filigree (needs: 60 mithril bar) skill 180-200: 20 engraved truesilver ring (needs: 40 gold bar, 20 truesilver bar) skill 200-210: 10 truesilver commander's ring (needs: 30 truesilver bar, 20 star ruby, 20 citrine) skill 210-220: 30 aquamarine signet (needs: 30 aquamarine, 40 flask of mojo) skill 220-225: 5 aquamarine pendant of the warrior (needs: 5 aquamarine, 10 flask of mojo, 15 mithril filigree) skill 225-235ish: 55 thorium setting (needs: 165 thorium bar) skill 235ish-260: ruby pendant of fire until 260 (needs: 1 star ruby, 1 thorium setting each) skill 260-280: 20 simple opal ring (needs: 40 large opal, 40 thorium bar, 20 thorium setting) skill 280-290: 10 onslaught ring (needs: 20 powerful mojo, 20 essence of earth, 80 thorium bar) skill 290-300: 10 emerald lion ring (needs: 20 huge emerald, 10 thorium bar, 10 thorium setting) skill 300: /dance ^_^ Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Fabricated on October 24, 2006, 02:14:02 PM I would just like to point out I hate this kind of shit. QUICK GUYS HERES WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO GET TO 300 SKILL AND WIN! GOUGE THAT AH! ITS A SPREADSHEET NOT A GODDAMN GAME!
p.s. This is not directed at Bhodi. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Nebu on October 24, 2006, 02:15:11 PM I would just like to point out I hate this kind of shit. QUICK GUYS HERES WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO GET TO 300 SKILL AND WIN! GOUGE THAT AH! ITS A SPREADSHEET NOT A GODDAMN GAME! Crafting in mmogs is fun... see?!? Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: bhodi on October 24, 2006, 02:18:56 PM <insert 10,000 chicken fajitas comment here>
Good thing you don't play EVE.. :) I agree completely. I personally won't do crafting, but I *will* rape all the people who need jewelcrafting at 300 by 2nd day of release. Daddy needs a new flying mount! Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Fabricated on October 24, 2006, 02:22:28 PM I would just like to point out I hate this kind of shit. QUICK GUYS HERES WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO GET TO 300 SKILL AND WIN! GOUGE THAT AH! ITS A SPREADSHEET NOT A GODDAMN GAME! Crafting in mmogs is fun... see?!? I mean, I browsed a gallery made by the guy who created that list and I was way more interested in seeing what you could actually make instead of the retarded stuff you needed to do to get the jump on the gold farmers. Now, moving onto actual jewelcrafting discussion...does anyone actually have a list of the trainable items? Just seeing a handful of those rings makes me think we're gonna see a HUGE glut of them on the AH because I'll be damned if nearly all those smoke the dropped green rings/necklaces 1-60, which most people have to make do with. I mean, a near carbon copy of the Seal of Wrynn? Also, it looks like there's rings for the sub level 10 crowd, which is pretty cool since god if those first 10 levels aren't the time you acutely feel the difference every single point of stamina/intellect/strength/etc makes. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Merusk on October 24, 2006, 02:23:23 PM Interesting.. so you need bars rather than the ores. There's a lot fewer jewels in the list than I expected to see, as well. That only helps me, since I've been hoarding ore for a while. Time to smelt it into bars for even more bank space. Yay.
Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Fabricated on October 24, 2006, 02:27:10 PM Interesting.. so you need bars rather than the ores. There's a lot fewer jewels in the list than I expected to see, as well. That only helps me, since I've been hoarding ore for a while. Time to smelt it into bars for even more bank space. Yay. You use the ore for prospecting, which is a better way of getting jewels than praying for random drops. I'd probably keep a mess of thorium ore for getting the Azerothian Diamonds/Large Opals/Huge Emeralds/Horseshoes, Clovers and Balloons.Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: bhodi on October 24, 2006, 02:30:11 PM I'd rather see the fucking trainable recipes myself. What stupid asshole honestly cares about grinding the skill to 300 in 20 minutes? Seriously? Are you kidding me? P. T. Barnum had it right; there is a 100% chance of more people wanting to powerlevel than will be avaliable materials on the AH, especially on an initial launch server like mine.Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Fabricated on October 24, 2006, 02:31:50 PM I am so pulling the 200 Copper Bars, 60-something bronze bars, and the huge stacks of other mats I was too lazy to do anything with out of two of my alt's banks for some AH raping fun then.
Enjoy paying 3-5G for a stack of copper bars assholes, you deserve it. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Merusk on October 24, 2006, 02:33:23 PM Interesting.. so you need bars rather than the ores. There's a lot fewer jewels in the list than I expected to see, as well. That only helps me, since I've been hoarding ore for a while. Time to smelt it into bars for even more bank space. Yay. You use the ore for prospecting, which is a better way of getting jewels than praying for random drops. I'd probably keep a mess of thorium ore for getting the Azerothian Diamonds/Large Opals/Huge Emeralds/Horseshoes, Clovers and Balloons.Yeah, I know that much, but I can reduce the amount of copper/ (eliminate the tin)/ Iron/ Mithril I'm hoarding away. That makes me happy, since Iron has such a high selling price as it is that I was itching to sell some of it off. THEN AGAIN.. Are you kidding me? P. T. Barnum had it right; there is a 100% chance of more people wanting to powerlevel than will be available materials on the AH, especially on an initial launch server like mine. Is so true I can probably sell it for 5x the going price come release. Yes, I'm a capitalist scumbag. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Venkman on October 24, 2006, 05:11:56 PM Quote from: Fabricated I'd rather see the fucking trainable recipes myself. What stupid asshole honestly cares about grinding the skill to 300 in 20 minutes? Seriously? 375 I thought?But anyway, where's the biggest market for craftable goods, the player grinding/questing through the levels to hit the cap or those sitting at the endgame only sometimes able to raid for improvement. That, to me, is why many crafters grind up to the cap. That's where their business is. As to those who grind levels to hit the cap, well, I used to be annoyed by that, but kinda get it: if you just love hitting the exact same zone over and over and over again because that's the easiest way to continue improving your character, or love PvPing without caring about XP, then it makes sense. Me, I don't mind the path, but the end goal has to be worth it. Occasionally it has been. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: lamaros on October 24, 2006, 05:26:04 PM I'd rather see the fucking trainable recipes myself. What stupid asshole honestly cares about grinding the skill to 300 in 20 minutes? Seriously? http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=220032&sid=1 First post. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Velorath on October 24, 2006, 07:14:24 PM I'd rather see the fucking trainable recipes myself. What stupid asshole honestly cares about grinding the skill to 300 in 20 minutes? Seriously? Are you kidding me? P. T. Barnum had it right; there is a 100% chance of more people wanting to powerlevel than will be avaliable materials on the AH, especially on an initial launch server like mine.Anyone who wants to powerlevel could be stocking up on that stuff right now. None of it is particularly hard to find and if you don't want to farm that many gems just stockpile the ore that you can prospect them from. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Phred on October 24, 2006, 10:01:34 PM Also, it looks like there's rings for the sub level 10 crowd, which is pretty cool since god if those first 10 levels aren't the time you acutely feel the difference every single point of stamina/intellect/strength/etc makes. Actually the lowest I think you can craft, unless there's some drop recipes I haven't seen, is L10 rings. I've been working up jewelcrafting on a Draenei shaman I made and it was a bit annoying being able to make stuff I couldn't wear. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: SurfD on October 25, 2006, 01:38:08 AM Quote from: Fabricated I'd rather see the fucking trainable recipes myself. What stupid asshole honestly cares about grinding the skill to 300 in 20 minutes? Seriously? 375 I thought?I pretty much plan on having one of these kits ready to go for skillups on one of my level 60 alts when BC hits, though i will likely stock up on a lot of raw Thorium / Mithrill ore (I mean, 40 large opals / 20 Huge Emeralds!!! WTF Mate, thats like almost 200g in mats right there at current prices on my server) Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: caladein on October 25, 2006, 02:16:56 AM Also that, like Enchanting, the final stretch of Jewelcrafting relies solely on dropped patterns. The reliance on drops would make it tough to figure out an explicit guide this early on (or at all possibly).
Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Triforcer on October 25, 2006, 03:39:13 AM This presents an interesting question of investment strategy. Right now, through playing the AH, my 55 druid has turned 100 gold seed money into 630g+ 300ish in inventory. I'm torn on what to invest in- I'm leaning towards Huge Emeralds because there are always very, VERY few on my AH (archimonde)- but yet I can usually find at least one a day at 3-4 g apiece. I'm leaning toward investing in 40 or 60 as it isn't a huge amount of gold and on release day I hope to double my money. But if I see people are stockpiling ore I'll go with a lower mineral (possibly citrines- I could buy 20 citrines at under a gold each and certainly get 40-50g from the rich and impatient.
EDIT: How often do gems drop from "prospected" ore? If it occurs with anything approaching regularity that screws over Mining pretty darn well. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Merusk on October 25, 2006, 04:06:25 AM This presents an interesting question of investment strategy. Right now, through playing the AH, my 55 druid has turned 100 gold seed money into 630g+ 300ish in inventory. I'm torn on what to invest in- I'm leaning towards Huge Emeralds because there are always very, VERY few on my AH (archimonde)- but yet I can usually find at least one a day at 3-4 g apiece. I'm leaning toward investing in 40 or 60 as it isn't a huge amount of gold and on release day I hope to double my money. But if I see people are stockpiling ore I'll go with a lower mineral (possibly citrines- I could buy 20 citrines at under a gold each and certainly get 40-50g from the rich and impatient. EDIT: How often do gems drop from "prospected" ore? If it occurs with anything approaching regularity that screws over Mining pretty darn well. Given the comparison to disenchanting, I'd say at least every other chance for the common gems, and often enough to screw mining for the rare gems of an ore type. The guy who did the jewelcrafting guide hadden't said how often when I read the thread. (Of course I couldn't get past P1 before their forums crashed... again.) Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Driakos on October 25, 2006, 01:20:27 PM Given the comparison to disenchanting, I'd say at least every other chance for the common gems, and often enough to screw mining for the rare gems of an ore type. The guy who did the jewelcrafting guide hadden't said how often when I read the thread. (Of course I couldn't get past P1 before their forums crashed... again.) It may have changed by now, but it was every time. You crushed up 5 ore, and got a comparable gem you could have gotten from whatever ore type resource node. So like Malachite or a Tiger's Eye from crushing 5 copper ore. With a small chance to get a nicer gem. I don't remember failing (but I havent tried it in a month or so). Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Triforcer on October 25, 2006, 02:56:55 PM Given the comparison to disenchanting, I'd say at least every other chance for the common gems, and often enough to screw mining for the rare gems of an ore type. The guy who did the jewelcrafting guide hadden't said how often when I read the thread. (Of course I couldn't get past P1 before their forums crashed... again.) It may have changed by now, but it was every time. You crushed up 5 ore, and got a comparable gem you could have gotten from whatever ore type resource node. So like Malachite or a Tiger's Eye from crushing 5 copper ore. With a small chance to get a nicer gem. I don't remember failing (but I havent tried it in a month or so). Well, screw gem investment then :( Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Merusk on October 25, 2006, 02:57:46 PM Awesome. I figured it would be an every time thing when they first announced it, but the JC-Guide-guy said "a chance" so I thought they might have done something stupid. Maybe he meant a chance for the rare gem types (Tiger's eye in your example).
Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Lt.Dan on October 25, 2006, 04:07:35 PM MMOG players deserve all the shitty derivative diku grindy gameplat they get
Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Merusk on November 27, 2006, 10:41:59 AM Copied my bank toons over to Beta and started messing with Jewelcrafting.
Nifty profession overall. None of the socketed gems at lower levels, but lots of rings & necklaces. The Healing Statues & Fighting Figurines are a nice little perk as well. Prospecting does have a chance to fail at finding gems, but you find two gems in a stack of ore often enough that it seems to even out. You always get <ore> dust back after you prospect. A stack of 20 mithril dust (representing 100 ore) vendors for 1g. Wish I could give exact % on my 'fail to find' vs 'found 2 gems' experience, but I had THAT idea as I was working on the last 20 ore out of about 400. Whoops. There IS an odd twist with the skill that I discovered last night. You don't actually have to make anything to skill-up. As things currently stand, Prospecting will skill-up on each attempt, regardless of the level of the ore. My JC priest is at 275 skill right now, (thorium range) and I was still getting skill-ups prospecting copper ore. If things stay this way, it's an Interesting way of making sure the crunch in resources once BC goes live won't hinder any of the casuals/ money poor from making it to the cap because all the Ubers/ Gold Buyers bought out the top-end ore market. It'd be nice if they'd do the same thing with Enchanting/ Disenchanting now that there's a level requirement on DEing. I'm going to see if there is later today when I'm making skill 300+ items, but I suspect it'll still be the same materials grind it currently is. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: caladein on November 27, 2006, 01:31:52 PM There IS an odd twist with the skill that I discovered last night. You don't actually have to make anything to skill-up. As things currently stand, Prospecting will skill-up on each attempt, regardless of the level of the ore. My JC priest is at 275 skill right now, (thorium range) and I was still getting skill-ups prospecting copper ore. That's rather interesting since Disenchanting stops giving skill-ups around 50 or so skill. Like you said though, it may be that it also stops at a certain (rather high) point. Hmm... Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Ironwood on November 28, 2006, 01:59:57 AM It'll be a bug. If it's fun and interesting and a time-saver, it's always a bug.
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Enchanting got no such similar boost, I checked with some high-level items last night. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Merusk on November 29, 2006, 09:58:30 AM Confirmed it was a bug. Big boo to that, and hello once again to expensive ore prices.
Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Simond on November 30, 2006, 06:01:51 AM boo to that, and hello once again to expensive ore prices. Conversely, for those of us who've been stockpiling ore for the last month or so, it's great news. ;)Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Righ on November 30, 2006, 08:31:36 AM Yeah you're probably right. Boo. Go for the eyes, Boo! Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Merusk on November 30, 2006, 11:12:32 AM boo to that, and hello once again to expensive ore prices. Conversely, for those of us who've been stockpiling ore for the last month or so, it's great news. ;)Also true. I have 2 alts whose banks & Runecloth bags are full of Mithril and Thorium right now. Go farm more cheap 1.75g/stack ore for me, Brunhily! I shall reap the rewards of thy farming! Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: caladein on November 30, 2006, 03:25:17 PM Confirmed it was a bug. Big boo to that, and hello once again to expensive ore prices. Did they say anything about it getting you to 50 like Disenchanting does for Enchanting or will it provide no direct skill-ups at all? Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Merusk on November 30, 2006, 04:46:26 PM It's gonna be like Enchanting w/ Deing from what I read. 40-50 skill max.
Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Xanthippe on January 17, 2007, 01:00:22 PM So how goes the auction house killings? Getting 3-5g/stack of copper bars?
Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Mazakiel on January 17, 2007, 01:07:27 PM On a lark, I checked, and yep, what little is up there is pretty much trying to be sold for that. People are also trying to make a killing on items across the board. 5 gold for a stack of linen cloth, 11 gold for a level 5 green item. Someone wised up and by the end of the night had put up a giant supply of the lowbie wands enchanters can make, for more than I'd seen them sell for in a long time, but still reasonable compared to everything else up there. Some people are likely to get pretty rich.
People are also snatching up some of the nicer craftable items from jewelcrafting too, it seems. I sold three different blue rings I crafted pretty damn quick. I probably undervalued what I could have gotten for them, though. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: MrHat on January 17, 2007, 01:11:44 PM Can you unequip gems and jewels once you put them into stuff?
I'd be so afraid to pop a gem into a weapon only to find a better gem 10 mins later.. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Merusk on January 17, 2007, 02:17:41 PM Can you unequip gems and jewels once you put them into stuff? I'd be so afraid to pop a gem into a weapon only to find a better gem 10 mins later.. You can replace gems, yes. You lose the one already socketed, however. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Merusk on January 17, 2007, 02:20:15 PM So how goes the auction house killings? Getting 3-5g/stack of copper bars? Getting 9-10 per stack of 10 thorium. Oddly nobody's biting on my 20-stacks at 16g, go go sticker shock. I didn't stock copper, because it's low on the mining tree and easy enough to obtian. Silver, Truesilver, Gold, Mithril and Thorium. I've only started putting auctions out early this morning, and 3 of my 6 stacks sold while I was at work. I expect I'll do better this weekend than during the week. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Paelos on January 19, 2007, 08:43:12 PM I'm running instances in Hellfire and getting the jewelcrafting gems out of the chests. I sold a blue quality ruby for 50g at one point. It's pretty solid.
Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: angry.bob on January 20, 2007, 04:16:32 PM I've made 10g a day consistently with my new belf by just running a copper node circuit in the belf newbie zone and then translocating to the undead newbie area. spend about an hour and a half jumping back and forth gets about a hundred ore. Put it up on the AH at 2g/20 ore and it's sold by the next day. I also regularly check and buy out any ore that's cheaper than mine and relist it.
Hmmmm, I wonder if the ore market is the reason gold is starting to show back up for sale... Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Fabricated on January 25, 2007, 10:39:43 PM I've got Jewelcrafting up to 275 on my mage alt, and I want to hang myself. What an awful, fucking expensive grind it is. I didn't think about every new gem needing someone to cut it, and if you want even just green gems for socketing you can either get raped at the AH for the mats to grind the skill or the gems themselves. I imagine the skill will grind itself out when I can start cutting gems but man, these last 25 skillups are gonna be awful. I've blown about 100G so far after burning through my main's year+ stockpile of bars and gems.
Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Merusk on January 26, 2007, 05:48:43 AM Yeah, I'm at 305 only because I had stocked everything the list here had, plus bought enough thorium ore to prospect the last few emeralds/ opals I needed. I can't imagine trying to skill up without having had the mats ahead of time. I'm going very slowly now, simply because I refuse to pay 7/8g per gem just to cut them for skillups.
Easier to get to 70 before the rest of the server then farm high level nodes for fel iron/ adamantite and sell or prospect that than to pay the AH price right now. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Fabricated on January 26, 2007, 09:17:57 AM Yeah, I'm at 305 only because I had stocked everything the list here had, plus bought enough thorium ore to prospect the last few emeralds/ opals I needed. I can't imagine trying to skill up without having had the mats ahead of time. I'm going very slowly now, simply because I refuse to pay 7/8g per gem just to cut them for skillups. I've got a shitload of cuttable gems from mining and instance running. About 4-5 of each kind of green gem. A few people in my guild have a handful of the blue quality gems.Easier to get to 70 before the rest of the server then farm high level nodes for fel iron/ adamantite and sell or prospect that than to pay the AH price right now. Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Merusk on January 26, 2007, 09:37:14 AM Yeah I'd love to run more instances than I have been. Done a lot of them, mind you, but it's getting painful now that I'm at the Mana Tombs level. There's only two warriors we have who are = or higher level than me (66) and one of them thinks 'tanking' means pick 1 mob and beat on it, trying to do dps. We ran the other one (Spirit Tomb?) the other night and my wife nearly quit the group because she'd died about 8 times just getting 1/2 way through. :-(
Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Fabricated on January 26, 2007, 05:57:58 PM It's the exact opposite for our guild...my best friend plays a VERY good Holy-Spec Pally. He's mainhealed everything up to the underbog successfully...but we can't fuck up at all hardly. I'd like to think I'm a pretty good tank, since I can typically hold aggro on 3-5 mobs at once provided we don't have our guild's clueless Arcane/Fire mage who does not understand controlling DPS. We got everything but priests, and we just can't find em to join our guild since we're not zomg h4rdc0r3.
Title: Re: Jewlcrafting Powerleveling info Post by: Paelos on January 26, 2007, 10:19:06 PM We did the mana tombs at around 64, and it took a while. Went back at 65-66 and it was much quicker. I like that place for the challenge, but we're into the Hillsbrad part of the Caverns of Time now. It's tough finding groups for that.
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